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A
Good
afternoon
all
let
the
record
show
it
is
Tuesday
December
the
17th,
and
this
is
the
Community
Redevelopment
Agency
meeting
I
need
sugar.
You
know
who's
Sammy,
Hall,
Jackie
Jo,
mr.
Scott
game
faces
for
boskie
here.
All
right.
First
thing
on
the
agenda
is
approval.
The
minutes
of
the
regular
meeting
over
28.
A
A
B
A
Attorney
outlining
to
do
these
powers
through
urges
and
obligations
of
the
Community
Redevelopment
Agency,
and
we
at
the
time
that
I
scheduled
this
meeting.
We
thought
that
the
same
briefing
type
concept
was
going
to
be
provided
to
the
City
Council
last
night,
but
other
I
am
sure
will
so
you're
hearing
that
in
advance
and
city
council.
So
I
just
want.
Let
you
know
Denise
is
here
tonight
to
go
over
that,
but
the
City
Council
is
still
not
yet
heard
and
detailed,
which
we
didn't
hear
the
nice.
A
We
all
heard
it
the
goal
for
damage
to
this
agency
been
doing
but
want
some
clarification
on
exactly
what
it
is:
you're
empowered
to
do
and
what
it
is
that
they
must
do
and
the
difference
between
those
two.
So
the
memo
at
the
end
of
October
kind
of
addresses
that
the
first
page
really
just
addresses
one
CRA
will
lapse,
and
we
all
know
that
the
changes
in
the
law
last
year
kind
of
affected
that
to
move
us
from
twenty
forty
seven
is
twenty:
thirty
nine.
A
C
A
E
A
You
can
make
recommendation
for,
and
the
client
decision-maker
becomes
the
governing
body
that
the
City
Council
and
that's
determined
make
the
finding
that's
one
of
a
lot
of
network.
You
can't
name
a
new
area.
They
have
to
make
a
certain
findings
of
necessity
of
summer
Block,
Grant
final
approval
for
any
plan
or
modification
there's
my
vacations
and
plans.
You
do
know
that
you
can
make
the
recommendation,
but
final
approval
and
an
amount
of
passion
lies
with
everybody.
A
Authorized.
The
issuance
of
revenue
bonds
have
any
of
those,
but
should
that
many
new
to
that
ever
become
something
final.
Authorization,
expenditure
or
I
can
get
eNOS
final
approval
for
the
acquisition,
demolition,
removal
and
disposal
of
any
concrete
okay.
So,
where
you
can
direct
what
can
go
on
on
city
property,
you
can't
expose
up
or
acquire
property
to
make
recommendation
to
final
approval
for
acquisition,
disposal,
sale
or
demolition
of
government
property
would
live
at
City.
Council
approve
'men
of
policing
initiatives.
I!
Don't
look
at
any
of
that.
A
What
you
learn
about
that
actually,
just
through
the
tear
the
cake
budget,
is
part
of
their
annual
consent.
Erasing
the
original
establishment
of
cake
predates
all
the
members
on
his
current
members
on
this
board,
including
Scott
I,
think
it
was
Mark.
Do
you
remember
when
the
CEO
of
the
cable
started,
14
or
15.
E
A
A
It
was
authorized
and
done,
and
the
City
Council
would've
set
a
final
approval
on
that.
If
you
wanted
to
look
at
it,
spending
now
changing
that's
recommendations,
but
proving
pollution
initiatives
must
go
to
City
Council
and
the
power
I'm
going
to
do
it.
You
know,
and
literally
the
statute
says
you
can't
use
eminent
domain
force
on
your
life
anyway,
so
it's
not
usually
that
we
use
that
we
use
acquisition
or
buying
and
selling
property
if
need
be.
So
literally
is
those
one
two
three
four
five
six
things
that
the
City
Council
must
approve.
C
Done
by
you,
that
is
to
direct
the
expenditure
of
funds.
If
it's
in
accordance
with
your
plan
and
in
your
budget.
The
way
you
see
it
needs
to
be
done
with
Redevelopment
Agency
can
be
the
ultimate
judgment
and
that's
pretty
much.
What
we've
laid
out
for
City,
Council
and
I
have
seen
them.
You
know
they
haven't,
had
an
opportunity
to
discuss
it
yet
so
mr.
Manning
stone
just
so
that
they
were
clear
that
they
didn't
have
to
approve.
F
You
have
a
budget
you're,
given
that
the
plan
it's
already
put
in
place
and
approved,
and
you
didn't
win
it,
that's
what
this
commission
is
charged
with
everything
else
within
the
statute.
That
includes
a
point:
people
employing
the
directors,
technical
experts,
other
agents,
sometimes
there's
a
coordinator.
It
just
handles
cieariy
work,
the.
A
Qatari,
import,
Explorer,
jazz-age
that
there
are
discussing
that
and
they
already
have
that
just
so
you
know,
that's
also
within
your
views
does
fall
under
the
statute
as
cor
late
in
administrative
tasks,
something
you
can
do
anything
I
can
answer
a
specific
questions.
I
got
a
quick
question
for
you
know.
C
Your
chip
bonds
and
they
have
to
separate
them
out
between
the
tube
development
districts,
because
there
are
two
of
them
and
have
them
separated
by
the
tip
angle.
You
whenever
we're
starting,
so
don't
know
what
goes
where
Finance
will
sit
down
with
you.
Here's
what
we
have.
Typically,
that
would
come
to
you
for
a
recommendation
before
it
goes
on
to
a
City
Council.
So
you
look.
F
At
input-
and
it
doesn't
need
to
be
a
bunch
of
change
publication,
that's
possible!
You
would
eat
that
recommendation
all
for
the
budget
to
make
it
be
just
elaborate,
though,
a
little
bit,
you
have
two
opportunities
for
the
proposed
budget,
the
initial
operating
budget,
which
is
the
end
of
the
administrative
expenses
and
will
actually
get
into
that
a
little
bit.
When
we
talk
about
the
second
item
and
then
the
year.
A
There's
discussions
about
not
modifying
it,
but
clarifying
what
still
allowed
based
off
some
changes
to
the
law
that
have
been
made
locally,
especially
hike
your
clients.
What
have
you
would
that
be
as
hiring
someone
to
interpret
that
you
consider
like
in
my
pocket,
or
is
that
something?
So
if
I'm
hearing
you
correctly
you're,
not
talking
about
doing
a
new
plant
modification,
you
just
want
to
know
from
the
three
or
four
or
five
different
modifications
that
we
have
out
there.
A
What's
still
left
invalid
to
do
know
you,
if
you
need
to
hire
someone
to
do
that,
if
we
don't
have
anything
else,
that
would
just
be
an
administrative
person
interpreting
what
you
have.
It
would
not
be
an
actual
modification
that
then
it
can
be
adopted
by
because
you're
not
taking
what's
in
them,
just
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
where
we
left,
where
we
go
and
we're
kind
of
getting
into
the
second
topic
tonight.
A
But
that's
what
we
will
talk
about,
but
whoever
does
that
we
do
need
to
consolidate
the
existing
plain
to
know
what
the
existing
framework
is,
and
it
may
well
be
a
proposed
modifications
to
what
we've
got
to
get
a
handle
on.
Exactly
is
the
place
right
now
practically
and
legally,
and
that's
what
we're
talking
about
with
movies
the
same
title.
But
if
we
do
that
step
that
we
do
propose
a
modification,
that's
what
we
need
to
have
counselor
we
need.
A
A
A
A
C
A
The
last
thing
I
mentioned
just
before
I
get
out
of
here
is
the
change
in
the
law
that
we've
talked
about,
also
included,
bringing
the
CRA
under
the
for
our
ethics
requirements
and
I.
Don't
know
if
everyone
what
that
means,
your
elected
officials
for
the
last
four
years
have
had
to
go
for
four
hours.
A
Different
areas
of
the
law,
including
sunshine,
public
records
and
ethics,
the
changing
all
that
just
took
effective
July
added
CRI
commissioners.
That
requirement
now
your
council
members
go
to
Jacksonville,
sometimes
I've,
given
presentations
where
actually,
if
you
own
Commission
on
ethics
website,
they
have
three
things
you
can
watch
and
then
you
just
attest
that
you've
done
it
accident,
no
based
policing
this
network,
but
we're
trying
to
be
ethical.
So.
G
I
think
it's
probably
in
effect
for
the
next.
That
was
my
question.
It
was
effective
based
on
this
past
legislative
session,
so
I
don't
know
if
the
effective
date
isn't
if
it's
a
calendar
year
from
June
to
July
or
the
start
state,
or
if
it's
of
the
fiscal
year
it
usually
starts
with
the
with
the
annual
year
January.
A
A
E
All
of
you
going
at
the
same
time
at
normality
what
I
recommend
in
the
situations,
because
many
times
council
members
remember
to
go
to
the
training
session
with
Portland
states
or
otherwise
and
which
are
always
there
and
there
we'll
be
back
with
more
questions
in
general
I.
Ask
that
you
don't
stay
together.
Business
and.
C
About
to
do
business,
we're
there
for
training
and
you're,
asking
specific
questions
for
ethics
or
whatnot,
if
only
when
you
get
into
the
realm
of
talking
about
whatever
business
might
come
for
your
board
with
another
council
member,
so
I
assumed
you
wanted
this.
It's
going
to
be
very
general
and
in
Flanders
not
going
to
be
I,
had
an
issue
in
CRA
about
item
a
and
getting
an
answer
to
that.
But
even
if
you
just
got
an
answer
to
that,
somebody
overheard,
that's
not
disgusting!
C
C
C
C
Yes,
you'll
find
in
front
of
you
a
copy
of
an
email
from
attorney
cliff
Shepard.
To
me
you
know,
let
me
preface
why
you're
getting
the
email
and
I've
actually,
since
we've
got
people
in
the
audience
that
would
be
interested.
It's
a
snow,
long
email,
so
I
don't
like
to
read
it
into
the
record.
We're
talking,
we
have
talked
city
council,
has
taught
speakers
to
city
councilor.
Talk
speakers
to
this
group
have
talked
about
the
fact
that
we
have
an
original
1987
downtown
redevelopment
plan
that
has
been
amended
on
more
than
one
occasion.
C
G
C
Practically
impossible
right
now,
Francis
may
have
the
best
vehicle
for
what
and
what's
still
valid
and
what
has
been
outdated.
But
the
point
is
I
have
reached
out
to
who
I
feel
and
most
of
the
CRA
practicing.
Cra
administrators
in
the
state
feels
the
preeminent
attorney
when
the
entire
states
actually
love
counsel
to
the
Florida.
Redevelopment
Association
and
I
specifically
asked
him
same
solution
effort
where
their
firm
is
in
Orlando.
They
have
done
work
for
us
in
the
past.
C
C
Bailiwick
so
I
approached
cliff,
based
on
the
comments
we
got
from
this
agency
Council
on
the
public,
to
give
an
estimate
for
what
it
would
cost
to
get
the
plans
consolidate
the
plans
and
come
up
with
literally
what
we
have
today
in
place.
That's
enforceable-
and
this
is
what
I
want
to
talk
to
you
last
week
and
we
got
a
little
bit
more.
What
we
want
to
do
going
forward,
but
factually
whether
we
do
a
consulting
firm
do
it
or
whether
we
try
to
do
it
in-house.
We
need
to
have
this
thing
thoroughly
vetted.
A
C
The
original
plan
proposals
and
elements
are
still
valid.
What
of
the
the
amendments?
The
vision
plan,
amendment
the
action
plan,
amendment
the
downtown
streetscape
scoop,
streetscape
improvements,
because
we
jump
to
a
series
of
those
some
of
those
were
valid
notice,
but
they've
been
replaced
by
such
a
good
amendment.
So
we
need
to
get
a
handle
on
what
it
would
take
to
get
the
plan
to
a
basis,
and
then
we
can
talk
about
hey.
We
still
like
these
original
components.
C
Family-Friendly
aspects
that
were
alluded
to
in
the
claddings
action
report-
those
was
going
forward
as
amendments,
but
until
we
get
in
on
with
less
in
place
now,
I
think
it's
premature
to
go
down
that
path.
So
mr.
Shepherd
provided
us
a
proposal.
I
gave
him
the
original
plan.
I
gave
him
the
snapshot
version
of
the
actual
events,
the
ordinances,
but
he
doesn't
have
the
full
Tomo,
but
he
had
enough
information
that
he
agreed
that,
yes,
it
would
be
prudent
to
reach
out
to
his
firm
or
legal
from.
E
To
do
that
type
of
work
of
is
it
in
like
as
much
in
losses
and
statutes
as
it
does
the
practical
matter
say:
that's
a
garage
earlier
guess
what
now
it's
not
a
garage
anymore.
So
does
that
have
nothing,
but
there
are
legal
ramifications
to
the
plan
and
I
think
they're
the
best
people
to
do
it.
They
give
us
a
proposal
based
on
hourly
cost
he's
got
an
estimate
that.
C
It
would
take
roughly
under
30
hours
and
throw
up
from
their
front
to
do
it,
and
so
that
would
be
a
labor
cost
of
about
$30,000
I
additionally,
and
that
proposal
asked
them
to
give
me
a
line.
I
had
a
proposal
for
what
it
would
take
to
bring
him
up
just
for
a
meeting
to
have
this
discussion
from
his
mouth
as
opposed
to
money.
I
think
I'll
get
an
idea,
but
what
I've
reached
out
for
you
get
an
idea
about
what
he
takes.
F
A
reasonable
rate
as
well
so
I
wanted
to
talk
to
you
about
that.
The
two
items
are
number
one.
Do
you
feel
it's
prudent
to
go
out
to
outside
counsel
to
get
the
existing
plan
and
the
amendments
consolidated?
So
we
have
a
basis
for
which
we
can't
go
forward
and
if
not
be
aware
that
if
you
expect
this
to
be
done
in-house,
it's
probably
the
same
is
not
a
little
more
our
timeframe
and
given
the
20
percent
a
week,
it's
going
to
extend
the
time
frame
to
do
that.
Work
not.
F
F
You
know
you
be
privy
to
any
comments
we
have
but
I'll
ask
them
why
if
we
do
say
go,
but
could
you
go
and
also
I
would
like
to,
with
your
permission,
ask
them
if
you
would
like
to
come
up
in
the
January
meeting.
Just
you
know
discuss
in
his
own
terms
what
he
thinks
you
know
that
the
Beast
in
doing
this
work
is.
F
Well,
if
it's
Hanks
830
hours,
just
think,
I
can't
do
40
hours
a
week
on
the
on
the
job.
So
in
video
8
hours
a
week
for
our
alumni
takes
it
probably
at
least
two
or
three
times
as
long
as
their
probability,
and
even
at
that
point,
I'd
still
be
two
roots
out
there
for
the
legal
ramifications.
I
don't
have
enough
of
a
working
relationship
with
our
new
city
cow,
our
new
city
attorney
or
with.
F
C
Specific
specialist
to
look
into
to
see
if
these
specific
items
or
checkoff
list
how
they
are
affected
in
all
these
amendments,
because
there's
still
possibility
to
use
from
what
I
read
through
it,
pops
off
there's
still
potential
to
bring
a
Lego
an
open-air
market,
there's
no
possibilities
and
making
streets
still
walkable.
They
stop
parking
structure.
Not
are
you
lightning
at
the
parking.
F
F
About
I,
don't
know
if
you're
going
to
dip
into
these
specific
part.
You
want
to
add
to
a
gentleman
to
look
at
specifically.
Additional
items
are
items
that
you
seem
like
one
of
the
plans
and
useful
I
know
it's
in
the
plans.
I've
read
through
the
plans.
I
crossed
out
parts
from
the
things
I
can
understand,
for
instance,
like
I,
understand
whole
story.
G
E
E
E
D
F
F
We
want
to
propose
some
idea
about
alleviating
the
liability
of
parking.
Lots
are
lots
of
idiot
certain
framers
that
fit
inside
this
document.
If
that's
something
that
he
would
be
dressing,
are
that
something
we
have
proposed
to
if
it's
not
in
one
of
the
place
right
now
that
would
fall
after
the
plan
is
consolidated.
Did
you
make
recommendations
on
the
moment.
E
To
do
it
during
the
meeting,
cuz
I
would
but
breather
read
the
proposal
and
I
listen,
tell
them
we're
definitely
interested
tomorrow
and
I
want
individually
campus
you
and
actually
gotten
a
better
handle
at
least
propose
it.
He
alludes
to
that
at
the
end
of
this
proposal
that
once
we
do
steps
two
and
three
one,
two
and
three
there
may
be
items
for
recommended
and
then
that's
how
that
will
get
us,
but
through
authorization
for
him
and
from
this
group
will
only
be
to
get
that
consolidation
going
forward.
C
Stop
now
that
wouldn't
feel
like
I'm
taking,
let's
go
back
to
sneaking
through
the
chair,
okay,
we'll
go
as
far
as
just
go
ahead.
You
guys
never
switch
is
a
funny
term.
Are
you
familiar
with
that
is
talking
about
the
toggle
switch
versus
the
money,
the
Davos,
which
puts
you
in
a
queue
of
the
Chairman.
E
The
process
now
that
we've
given
certain
rights
and
that's
Policy
Council,
certainly
I'm,
not
an
attorney
so,
for
instance,
in
all
three
plans,
there's
discussions
about
parking
and
the
area.
Maybe
people
think
about
parking,
so
you
eat
through
all
the
things
that
we
can
do.
The
requirements
and
individual
blocks.
I
have
specific
questions
like.
Can
we
utilize
a
parking
management
or
give
people
parameters?
E
C
Build
against
that
thirty
thousand
so
far
this
year,
little
bit
of
work,
you
know,
are
nicely
Jacksonville
beats
logo
we've
gotten
that
registered.
So
it's
federally
protecting
the
health.
Anybody
wants
to
try
music
start
turning
out
t-shirts.
Everything
you've
got
protection
against
that.
That's
a
very
minor
amount
of
legal
fees,
most
of
those
legal
fees
for
covering
the
prior
fiscal
year,
so
it
may
be
if
we
get
into
this
and
it
exceeds
$30,000
one
benefit
a
couple
of
trips
above
the
7:30
or
the
work
actually
units
available
were
30,000
cases.
D
C
E
What
I
wanted
to
make
was,
and
I
may
have
office
up
the
other
night.
The
reason
we
need
to
do
this
is
because
the
resolutions
that
approve
every
one
of
these
plan
of
limits
approve
the
specific
amendment
to
the
extent
that
it
does
not
affect
the
original
plan
come.
What
I'm
saying
is
an
amazing
plan
or
the
plan.
F
E
C
E
C
G
G
C
F
The
motion
tonight
is
that
you're
approving
for
a
bill
to
get
the
initial
the
expert,
the
additional
contract
into
the
former
work,
will
go
back
to
again
isn't
working
and
you're
approving
for
the
initial
expense
frame
to
also
be
paid
into
that
word.
But
that's
it
and
in
terms
of
a
immediate
type
of
meeting
or
airing,
you
just
have
to
still
notice.
C
C
So
you're
recruiting
for
it
for
the
experts
you
move
forward.
If
it's
within
this
grant
the
cost
not
to
exceed
$30,000,
would
you
like
to
give
a
given
that
I
asked
not
trying
to
direct
given
that
a
passenger,
the
lighting?
Would
you
like
to
include
several
trips
I
mean
that
outfigure
2520
technology
trip
I
mean
so
that
times
three?
That's
it
would
be
fully
or
not
30.
D
C
C
F
Talking
to
him
he's
like
okay,
well,
I'll,
give
you
a
hard
polish
number
and
aw,
maybe
in
27,
but
if
I
still
think
if
y'all
want
to
go
and
get
the
approval
and
trying
to
get
the
ball
but
Lynn.
If
you
authorize
staff
based
on
preference,
you
know
the
reference
framers
of
the
email
within
the
cost
not
to
exceed
$30,000
plus
$29
per
travel
trip.
Then
I
think
that,
if
he's
comfortable
with
that,
will
authorize
them
to
approve
this
yeah
if
I'm
in
feedback
from
them.
D
E
C
D
C
We
only
need
to
get
a
3:05
I'm
gonna,
be
variable
plans.
There's
one
I,
don't
think
there
would
be
much
of
an
issue
we're
getting
three
people
on
a
particular
day.
I
wouldn't
be
concerned
all
right,
so
that
much
mister
focus
right
now
is
to
move
forward,
even
though
man
the
authority
to
do
that.
If
that
fails.
C
E
B
B
B
B
I
just
want
to
let
everybody
know
unless,
for
some
reason
we
have
a
special
meeting
before
now
in
January.
First
tonight
will
be
mr.
Gaines
last
meeting
as
a
CRNA
number
I
want
to
extend
my
heartfelt
gratitude
for
your
participation
on
this
board
since
I
believe
it
was
July
of
2016
that
works
since
then.
E
It
trusted
that
even
the
nature
of
mr.
gates,
business
with
the
CRA
they've,
got
one
big
project.
Downtown
they've
also
completed
two
of
their
three
most
recent
apartment
apartment
projects
in
the
downtown
area.
So
what
descanse
want
to
see
her
or
not?
I
continue
to
look
out
for
his
observations
that
his
comments
about
the
goings
on
downtown.
F
F
F
E
E
C
E
G
E
B
To
be
there,
I
would
advertise
it
as
a
combination.
Actually
that
can
help
see
a
second
to
do
because
you
know
be
dis
advertising
time,
every
single
one!
Well,
we've
all
in
these
meetings
on
these
days,
I
understand
that.
But
to
that
extent
it
becomes
a
public
meeting
and
it
may
compromise
the
security
as
opposed.
H
H
F
H
H
E
C
D
C
E
If
we're
going
to
do
some
format
line
and
any
any
suggestions
will
take,
but
we're
going
to
still
along
that
line,
we
cannot.
We
should
have
a
public
meeting.
So
those
guys
can
all
come
to
us
and
tell
us
why
we
should
and
as
much
the
people
receiving
the
deliveries
as
the
delivers,
because
somebody's
head
assembly
management-level
person's
going
to
be
on-site
at
the
establishment,
which
is
obviously.
D
E
C
D
E
F
May
be
interpreted,
can
you
give
us
your
a
copy
or
a
link
to
that
hew
assortment
see
how
they
address
some
of
these
issues
to
the
yes
and
that's
my
point,
because
I
think
they
would
that's
a
good
point
of
distinction.
Are
we
trying
to
limit
limited
Amazon
and
the
FedEx
tires
and
UPS
driver
says
by
the
nature
of
their
deliveries?
They
can't
do
specific
or
delivers,
as
opposed
to
the
scheduled
route
carriers
for
the
larger
trucks
and
larger
commodities.
I
think
that's!
What's
all
that?
Okay,
okay,
what
I
would
envision,
though,.
F
E
D
Agenda
that
we
put
this
up
design
for
discussion
and
we
get
some
more
details
on
that
dunkey
less
if
you
send
us
the
legalities
and
so
that
way,
I
mean
the
word
get
up
we're
going
to
talk
about
it.
We
give
more
specifics
and
then
we
can
have
over
here
after
that
and
then,
if
they
don't
works,
fine,
don't
get
to
the
City
Council
Francis.
E
E
Good
evening
sitting,
there
was
a
Jacksonville
Beach
good
to
be
here
and
hear
the
conversations
that
you're
having
excited
to
see
where
the
CIA's
position
could
go
over
the
next
six
to
12
months
and
look
forward
to
being
a
little
bit
more
integrated
with
middle
over
the
next
six
to
twelve
months
as
we
try
to
chart
a
new
direction
in
any
questions.
I
can
answer
for
you
at
this
time.