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A
Let
the
record
show
it
is
monday
september
the
28th-
and
this
is
the
community
redevelopment
agency
meeting.
Madam
clerk.
If
I
can
get
you
to
call
the
roll
please
mary.
C
A
And
I'm
here:
okay,
we
got
several
minutes
to
approve.
Let's
approve
this
special
cra
meeting
held
january,
I'm
sorry
july,
the
15th
any
questions,
concerns
or
change
changes
to
those
minutes.
D
C
E
I
would
just
like
to
ask
if
it's
policy
to
add
more
detail
to
the
last
one
where
it
talked
about
some
other
things
we
talked
about.
Like
I
mentioned
workshop
upcoming
meetings,
jones
or
jeff
mentioned
spring
spring
hill
suites,
and
then
gary
talked
about
the
procedures
and
scheduling.
Do
we
have
to
put
more
detail
in?
Are
the
summaries
of
those
just
fine
it'll
still
know
the
exact
rules
on
summarizing
discussions.
C
Yeah,
I
have
one
item
at
the
end
of
the
first
page
of
those
minutes.
This
is
the
special
meetings
july
15th
bill
was
quoting
you
as
saying
the
resolution
amends
the
fiscal
year,
2019-22
downtown
capital
improvements
budget
for
the
south
end
community
redevelopment
district.
Is
that
meant
to
be
downtown
community
redevelopment
district
to
me
it?
I
don't
know
why
the
capital
improvements
budget
would
change
the
south
end
community
redevelopment.
B
D
Yeah,
I
was
somehow
I
got
the
first
page
of
that
in
the
second
page
of
the
next
meeting.
So
I'm
fine,
I'm
fine
with
the
15th
one.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
or
concerns
on
the
meeting
of
the
15th
I'll
entertain
a
motion.
G
A
D
The
first
text
appears
to
be
about
the
peer
entrance
project
design
and
it's
entitled
veterans,
memorial
resolution
and
the
second
one
is
the
downtown
delivery
parking.
It's
under
the
heading
of
budget
review.
F
F
F
B
F
A
A
F
A
H
I'm
doing
well,
can
you
hear
me
yeah
yep,
doing
well
we're
friday
I'll,
be
honest
with
you.
When
the
governor
went
to
phase
three,
a
lot
of
us
were
kind
of
scratching
our
heads,
because
we
really
didn't
see
it
coming.
Luckily,
for
us,
we
already
had
extra
people
on
duty.
Downtown
cape
was
full.
H
We
had
been
seeing
lines
starting
back
at
a
lot
of
the
establishments
downtown
we're.
Definitely
seeing
those
now
a
lot
of
the
establishments
down.
There
have
contacted
sergeant
sharp
to
go
back
to
hiring
some
of
the
off-duty
officers,
so
kind
of
went
off
without
a
hitch.
There
was
a
lot
of
people
out
me
personally.
I
was
at
the
town
center
on
saturday
night
for
dinner
and
it
was
packed
if
we.
H
We
wouldn't
have
got
in
so
I
think
slowly
and
surely
everything's
coming
back
as
far
as
with
the
downtown
area.
We
had
no
major
concerns.
We
have
had
a
couple
of
things
over
the
past
few
weeks,
but
nothing
in
the
cra
downtown.
A
Marker
we
are,
we
still
closing
everything
at
nine
excuse
me.
Are
we
still
closing
everything
at
midnight.
H
Correct
yeah,
the
main
thing
that
we
know
was
the
this
out
with
the
the
numbers,
the
percentages.
A
E
I
just
had
a
curious
question
in
regards
to
the
bars
that
got
there.
You
can
do
hot
pocket
type
food
to
open.
Are
we
pulling
that
back
now
or
since
they're
now
open
full
time
or
we
started
monitoring
their
actual
kitchens?
And
what
have
you.
H
I'll
be
honest:
it
just
happened
on
on
friday
night.
A
lot
of
them
didn't
even
go
into
effect.
Until
saturday
I
haven't
talked
with
the
fire
marshal.
I
was
going
to
give
them
today.
I
wasn't
able
to
get.
I
don't
think
he
was
here.
I
didn't
see
him.
I
had
a
prior
meeting.
I
was
trying
to
get
with
him
as
far.
I
can't
really
answer
that
I
do
know
that
we
had
talked
prior
and
once
they
got
this,
this
other
license
that
they
got.
H
E
Right,
I
was
just
curious
if
we're
going
to
be
able
to
regulate
them
as
we're
not
going
to
have
to
relabel
them
from
being
bars
and
following
those
roles
versus
restaurants.
Now
that
they
have
that
ability
to
sell
food
which
is
curable.
H
No,
we
talked
about
about
that
when
all
that,
when
the
first
couple
did
it
when
mangoes
and
a
couple
of
the
other
ones
did
it,
we
did
speak
about
that.
I
know
the
chief
was
involved
with
that
conversation
as
well.
I
don't
think
so,
but
I'm
I
can't
answer
for
sure
right
now,.
F
H
I
do
have
one
more
thing:
myself
and
jason:
we
met
with
the
city
attorney
and
with
bill
a
week
or
ten
days
ago
regarding
the
parking
for
the
deliveries
and
that
type
stuff,
so
we
do
have
some
headway
there
and
I
believe
that'll
be
going
to
the
council
bill.
Can
brief
you
on
that.
But
our
conversation
went
really
well.
We
had
nothing.
Nothing
really
came
out
that
was
earth
shattering
of
it.
E
A
Bill
since
he
teed
that
up,
where
are
we
with
the
parking
regulations
going
before
council.
F
I
need
to
get
back
with
at
least
one
of
the
council
people,
because
in
the
last
discussion
we
have
with
them.
She
indicated
that
she
thought
we
ought
to
put
permanent
markings
in
the
streets
where
they
could
park
and
that's
really
not
what
that's
not
going
to
work,
because
right
now,
where
they
park
they're,
not
supposed
to
be
parking
and
they're
a
traffic
hazard,
we
can't
delineate
parking
spaces
in
the
middle
of
a
right-of-way,
we're
just
telling
them
areas
where
they
cannot
definitely
park
so
that
doesn't
follow
suit.
F
That
means
that
we
ought,
to
put
you
know,
blue
or
yellow
or
whatever
color
boxes
within
the
travel
lanes,
to
confuse
the
regular
motoring
public.
So
I
just
need
to
get
that
back
to
the
council
people
so
that
doesn't
become
a
discussion
on
the
adoption
of
the
ordinance,
but
we're
going
forward
with
the
city
attorney's
drafting
the
ordinance
or
we've
had
we
had
an
initial
draft
to
review
and
we
had
some
comments
for
him
and
I
just
haven't
gotten
back
with
him
on
the
subsequent
draft,
but
we'll
go
to
council
fairly
soon.
A
F
This
is
concerning
the
projects,
the
buckets
project
they
are.
I
spoke
with
them
last
week.
They
are
still
shopping
for
architects,
they've,
gotten
preliminary
designs
from
several
different
groups
and
just
to
confirm
they
still
are
looking
at
the
same
basic
massing
and
layout,
as
was
the
building
they
knocked
down.
It
was
just
it
got
too
far
into
rehab
and
it
wasn't
worth
it
so
it's
more
cost
effective
for
them
to
build
from
scratch.
So
they
told
me
they're
still
two
to
three
months
out
before
plans
would
come
into
us.
F
Ma'am
so
again
they
said
to
be
two
or
three
months
until
plants
come
in
that
will
go
through
development
plan
approval
followed
by
building
permit
dolphin
depot.
That
project
is
still
on
hold.
I
spoke
with
scott
gay
last
week.
The
development
plan
and
zoning
are
still
in
place.
Everybody
everybody
got
a
little
bit
of
a
hall
pass
during
this
covid.
It
kind
of
extended
their
time
frame
for
countdown
on
permit
expirations.
F
Hotel
is
moving
along,
they
still
hope
to
be
finished
by
the
end
of
the
year.
With
one
caveat,
a
lot
of
their
furniture
was
ordered
from
china
and
there
are
supply
chain
issues
with
anything
coming
from
china.
I
don't
know
if
it's
gotten
better
or
worse,
but
if
there's
any
delay
it's
purely
because
they
haven't
gotten
their
their
furnishings
in
they're,
working
on
doing
the
exterior
building
cladding
right
now
and
the
brown,
the
ugly
brown
that
nobody
wanted
is
being
covered
up
with
nice
beige
panels.
F
So
that's
element
campeche
bay
and
zeta.
The
development
plan
application
is
currently
in
review.
It's
a
two
building
project.
Both
buildings
are
partial,
two
story.
That
means
it's
a
full
floor
on
the
first
floor
and
upstairs
is
a
partial
floor
and
at
least
on
the
corner.
Building
that
is
designated
to
be
a
restaurant
and
they'll
have
some
upstairs
restaurant
area
and
some
outdoor
seating
out
towards
the
street
towards
1st
street
and
the
second
the
building
that
was
where
campeche
is
now
would
be
right.
F
Now
it's
listed
as
mercantile
on
their
plans,
but
that
could
change
depending
on
the
market.
It
could
be
another
restaurant,
it
could
be
any
number
of
retail
establishments,
but
that
has
a
second
floor
element
as
well.
It's
just
not
part
of
the
outdoor
seating
for
the
restaurant
and
it's
an
open
corridor.
F
If
you
can
think
about
it,
the
gentleman
that
bought
the
problems
market
pride,
the
properties
or
mart,
is
marc
angelo.
He
just
renovated
costa
verde
plaza
down
in
the
south
end,
and
you
can
think
casa
maria's
courtyard.
This
build
the
two
buildings
will
have
an
open
sidewalk
that
connects
between
first
street
and
the
back
parking
lot,
so
you'll
be
able
to
walk
through
and
when
you
get
to
the
middle
of
that
space,
it'll
flare
out
to
an
opening,
not
the
size
of
casa
maria's,
but
something
like
that
like
an
inside
courtyard.
F
So
it's
a
very
it's
a
nice
looking
project,
the
elevations.
Look
very
nice
I'll
try
to
circulate
this
job.
I
didn't
want
to
do
it
at
first
because
he
said
they're
preliminary
and
he
didn't.
He
didn't
want
me
to
get
him
too
far
out
to
the
public
and
bose
the
last
one
down.
Oh,
wait,
no
hold
two
more
bows:
they
are
slowly
progressing
covet,
hit
them
very
hard.
F
They
shut
down
for
at
least
I
think,
a
month
during
covid,
I
saw
a
sound
group
over
there
the
other
day,
so
that
means
they're
working
on
getting
their
interior
sound
system
going,
so
they
are
still
progressing.
I
have
no
idea
about
when
they're
going
to
be
open.
We
have
both.
The
police
has
done
some
action
for
some
homeless
camping
out
in
the
back
of
those
and
code
enforcement
has
also
gotten
on
them
for
overgrowth
and
weeds
in
the
yard
and
they're
on
their
property.
F
On
spring
hill,
okay,
spring
hill
suites,
we
knew
from
the
press
that
the
property
did
sell.
I
met
with
I've
tried
to
reach
out
to
the
contractor,
who
was
holds
the
actual
building
permit
alex
grace
with
grace
construction,
they're
really
busy
on
two
other
projects.
Right
now.
He
has
not
responded
to
me,
but
oh,
I
can't
his
name
escapes
me
now
he's
on
our
board
of
adjustment.
He
works
with
the
marriott
group
and
they
are
still
invested
in
that
project.
They
would
be
the
operators
of
the
project,
so
it's
still
going
forward.
F
It's
still
an
estimated
14
16
months,
completion
time
once
they
get
started
and
their
building
permit
is
still
active.
So
I'm
still
waiting
to
hear
from
alex
grace,
but
as
far
as
we
know
that
project's
still
on,
it's
still
on
go
we're
just
waiting
for
them
to
get
going
and
the
last
one
was
the
pier
they
are
back
on
construction
and
out
over
the
water,
and
that
should
be
about
14
months
since
they're
back
going
again.
A
D
F
Well,
no,
actually
what
they
have
to
do.
Is
they?
If
you'll?
If
you
go
out
and
notice
that
construction
site
you
have
the
existing
pier
and
then
on
the
north
side,
they're
building
a
parallel
temporary
trestle.
The
first
thing
they
need
to
do
is:
go
all
the
way
out
the
full
1300
feet
of
the
project
and
clear
the
debris
field,
which
is
all
the
old,
concrete
pilings
got
taken
out
by
the
hurricane.
F
Despite
what
the
news
and
everybody
said
that
those
pilings
were
halfway
down
to
saint
augustine,
those
pilings
fell
in
place
and
stayed
in
place
after
the
storm.
So
there's
just
a
littered
debris
field
offshore,
which
actually
pretty
I'd,
be
pretty
good
fishing,
but
I
haven't
seen
any
people
working
it
yet,
but
they
have
to
go
out
and
pick
up
that
debris
field
and
then
they'll
come
back
and
start
doing
the
construction
out
to
the
full.
F
I
think
it's
actually
1280
feet,
but
we're
saying
roughly
1300
feet
and
the
pier
I
don't
know
if
you
all
know
it
the
pier
pretty
much
from
where
the
fence
is
now
to
keep
people
from
walking
out
further
on
the
pier.
At
that
point
it
starts
ramping
up
gradually
to
meet
ada
requirements
to
and
the
end
will
be
eight
feet
higher
than
the
old
pier
was
so
it's
going
to
get
the
p.
The
new
construction
of
the
pier
will
be
more
out
of
the
wave
action.
A
E
Hey
bill,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
just
kind
of
recap
this
and
make
sure
I
understand
it.
So
buckets
is
going
to
be
a
multi-use
with
commercial
dolphin
depot
should
be
multi-use
residential.
F
E
F
F
E
That
kind
of
brings
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
talk
about
later
on
in
our
workshop,
but
like
how
much
of
our
downtown
area
has
been
re-zoned
out
of
the
central
business
district.
F
E
I
feel,
like
I
think,
a
couple
pieces
or
parcels
that
I
thought
were
part
of
the
plan
actually
are
no
longer
considered.
If
you
look
at
the
lan
code
and
you
look
at
where
things
are
zoned
and
it's
like
bright,
bright
orange,
which
is
then
defined
by
our
purview,
I
think
parts
of
that
are
no
longer
under
our
purview
and
just
because
it's
been
rezoned
out
of
our
district
and
I'm
just
curious
of
how
many
locations.
F
The
only
properties
that
have
been
rezoned
or
properties
that
exceeded
50
000
square
feet
and
had
to
go
through
the
rd
zoning,
the
other
the
background
mix
of
different
zoning
categories
from
ninth
north
to
13th
south,
which
is
the
extents
of
the
downtown
those
zoning
patterns,
are
as
they
were
when
the
cra
was
created,
those
haven't
changed.
The
only
changes
have
been
the
rd
zonings
for
the
big
projects.
Does
that
make
sense.
A
C
Bill
just
a
little
follow-up
in
reference
to
the
construction
fencing.
You
know
the
other
day
in
the
heavy
winds.
All
that
green
screening
that
was
on
the
fencing
was
blowing
halfway
into
the
street.
C
F
Yeah
there
will
be
they
will
definitely.
The
screening
will
definitely
go
back
up
during
active
construction.
It's
kind
of
a
dual
edge
sword,
though,
like
I'm
going
to
give
you
the
221,
the
buckets
property
as
an
example
screening
that
vacant
lot
would
be
a
hindrance
to
security
of
it.
So,
right
now
the
police
can
drive
through
and
see
all
the
way
through
to
the
boardwalk,
and
it's
not
an
active
construction
site,
so
it
actually
makes
sense
now
to
have
it
open
and
they
put
seed
out
there.
They
kept
that
prop
fairly
neatly
the
other
ones.
C
Yeah,
basically
it
does
you
know
it's
just
unfortunate.
You
know
I.
I
guess
I
can
understand
from
a
security
standpoint
that
you
want
to
leave
those
sites
open,
but
then
again
the
appearance
of
them,
particularly
pier
walk
the
canteen
up.
Here
I
should
say
that
one's
got
a
lot
of
debris
laying
around
it's
not
a.
C
You
know
a
good
visual
representation
for
our
downtown
understood.
F
That
we
have
had
people
trying
to
get
into
that
building
they
get
through
security,
fencing
and
if
that's
an
issue
once
it
becomes
an
active
job
site
again
they
have
their
own
security
measures
and
it's
of
their
own
interest
for
liability
and
other
reasons
to
keep
that
maintained
and
the
screening
will
go
back
up.
I
wasn't
aware
I
haven't
driven
by
there
this
week.
I
wasn't
aware
that
theirs
did
not
go
back
up,
but
we
can
I'll
give
them
a
call.
C
Yeah,
all
of
them,
you
know
that
it
came
down
the
other
day,
because
the
screening
was
blowing
quite
a
bit
into
the
street.
You
know
still
attached
to
the
fence,
but
it
was
both.
F
And
that
could
have
been
the
building
official
has
initially
said:
hey
you
need
to
get
the
hazard
out
of
the
road,
so
the
quick
fix
for
them,
and
it
was
still
there.
The
northeast
condition
was
still
active
when
they
were
doing
these
cleanup
work,
so
it
may
have
been.
They
were
just
waiting
to
get
until
the
wind
died
down
to
get
back
out
there.
I'll
follow
up
on
that,
though.
F
C
Well,
I
was,
I
mean
that
was
part
of
my
reason.
You
had
directed
me
at
the
last
in
the
last
meeting
to
sit
down
with
public
works
and
with
bill
and
to
go
over
that
and
some
other
things
that
I
needed
to
do
or
discuss
with
public
works.
I
haven't
had
a
meeting
said
I
followed
up
with
bill
on
a
couple
of
occasions
and
no
meeting
has
been
set
up.
C
I
know
that
staff
has
had
a
meeting
as
it
relates
to
the
south
district,
but
I
was
not
invited
to
that
meeting
and
I
am
sorry
bill,
but
I
haven't
heard
anything
about
a
follow-up
meeting
and
I've.
You
know
you've
sent
me
several
emails
and
said
it's
going
to
be
set
up,
but
I
haven't
gotten
anything.
F
C
C
Well,
as
that
as
well
as
I
was
directed
to
talk
about
the
fencing
to
see
if
there
was
something
else
that
we
could
do,
because
it
was
brought
up
in
one
of
our
meetings
by
one
of
the
residents
of
the
city
to
try
to
put
something
else
up
around
those
construction
sites,
that
would
have
a
better
appearance
and
we
were
going
to
talk
about
some
options
as
to
what
could
be
done,
and
at
least
that's
what
I
was
understanding.
F
The
fencing
issue
is
not
an
issue
with
public
works
number
one.
We
will
I'll
get
together
with
you
what's
today
monday.
We
can
probably
do
it
this
week,
I'll
check
marty's
schedule
to
review
the
the
final
south
end
projects
list
that
we
have
that
we
took
to
the
city
manager.
We
just
had
that
meeting,
but
the
construction
fencing,
whether
you
or
mr
marsh,
knows
it
that's
an
element
in
the
down
in
the
art
master
plan
that
dick's
height
prepared.
It
has
not
been
implemented.
F
Yet
that's
part
of
what,
when
we
get
this
new
program
manager
I'll
have
additional
staff
resources
to
implement
these
projects.
That's
why
it
hadn't
been
implemented
yet
between
that
and
covid,
but
so
that
that
element's
in
there-
and
if
you
look
at
the
dixite
art
master
plan,
you
will
see
some
different
treatments
of
construction
fencing.
So
there
are
options
in
that
plan
to
do
that.
So
it's
just
a
matter
of
coordinate
with
the
individual
property
owners
to
do
that
for
the
construct
the
contractors.
F
Dick's
height
partners,
supporters.
F
They
did
a
wayfinding
sign,
a
bike
parking
plan,
an
art
master
plan,
a
street
furnishings
plan,
a
wayfinded
signing
plan
and
the
peer
entryway
plan.
So
the
only
one
that's
not
delivered
hasn't
been
delivered
to
us
is
the
peer
entryway
plan,
which
is
exciting
met
with
us
recently.
So
we
had
that
planned
document,
but
the
art
master
plan
of
all
of
them.
I
don't
have
that
background.
We're
going
to
need
outside
help
to
implement
that
and
it's
we.
We
as
a
group,
are
going
to
have
to
determine
what
level
of
funding
we
want.
F
We're
going
to
just
get
those
out
for
bid,
kale
is
working
on
that
now,
on
the
other
master
plan
was
the
lighting
master
plan
and
beach's
energy
service
is
looking
at
that
right
now
to
see
if
they
can
do
it
internally
or
if
it's
something
that
we
want
to
sub
out
to
a
contractor
to
build,
and
I
keep
reminding
them
they're
going
to
ultimately
be
maintaining
it.
So
if
it's
desirous
for
me
to
have
beaches
energy,
do
it,
but
it's
really
not
my
call.
It's
their
call.
A
F
Okay
and
gary,
if
you
don't
have
a
copy
of
that
art
man
I'll
get
you
a
copy,
all
the
dick's
height
plans.
It's
voluminous,
though
so
I'll
probably
need
to
get
you.
If
you
come
in
with
well,
I
can't
use
your
phone
I'll,
get
a
thumb
drive
and
just
send
it
to
you.
It's
nothing
that
you
can
download.
F
F
F
This
resolution
amends
the
2019-20
capital
improvements
budget
for
the
south
end
community
development
district
to
appropriate
an
additional
8
two
dollars
in
tif
funds
for
additional
phase,
one
design
services
under
the
ocean,
terrace
drainage
improvements,
project
contract
with
hanson
engineering
to
add
the
design
of
drainage,
improvements
on
jacksonville
drive
between
grande
and
america,
to
the
overall
project
scope
and,
let
me
say,
hold
on
information
for
the
project
designed
for
service.
One
of
ocean
k
is
provided
in
the
memo
from
kale
moore,
which
was
in
your
package.
F
Two
of
the
design
project
would
have
provided
the
design
work
for
that
all
the
way
down
to
america
and
grande.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
advance
it.
This
is
not
new
money.
This
is
just
bringing
money
up
from
phase
two
that
would
be
spent
maybe
next
year
and
bring
it
into
phase
one.
So
when
we
get
the
trail
portion
done
at
least
the
entire
trail
segment
from
america,
avenue
to
jacksonville
drive
will
be
done
as
opposed
to
having
a
stop
at
grande
granted.
F
The
infrastructure
will
stop
at
grande
and
go
east,
but
everything
else
we'll
have
the
complete
trail
in
place
at
one
time.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
the
memo.
You've
got
a
copy
of
the
revolut.
The
resolution
kale
moore's
on
board.
If
you've
got
any
questions
from
him,
but
staff
recommends
approval
of
resolution.
2020-04.
I
No,
it
was
it
was.
It
was
all
really
good.
We
were
looking
at
putting
the
extending
the
sidewalk
down,
but
as
we
got
a
little
farther
into
it,
we
identified,
along
with
the
hanson
engineers
and
brian
mckee,
is
on
by
phone
from
hanson.
If
we
have
some
more
detailed
questions
for
him,
we
identified
some
additional
drainage
concerns
and
some
drainage
improvements
that
we
really
needed
to
to
advance
from
the
next
phase
of
the
project
so
that
we
weren't
just
throwing
down
a
a
wall.
I
G
Well,
let
me
say
this
if
it
is
anything
to
do
with
averting
flooding,
and
I
I'm
I
am
in
agreement
with
it
and
I'd
rather
do
it
in
phase
one
than
having
to
come
back
and
do
it
later.
So
that's
my
take
on
it.
I
Yeah
well,
thank
you,
like
I
said
when
we
first
did
it,
we
were
really
focused
right
or
wrong.
We
were
really
focused
primarily
on
on
that
path
in
that
walkway,
and
we
really
weren't
focused
closely
on
drainage
impacts
or
concerns
of
the
drainage
that
we
were
going
to
handle
with
the
second
phase
until
we
really
got
kind
of
the
engineer
really
got
into
it.
A
C
Okay
well
good
evening,
I
wanted
to
just
make
sure
I
clearly
understand
what
you're
asking
for
here.
I
guess
when
I
first
read
it.
I
thought
you
were
talking
about
the
extension
of
the
multi-use
path,
all
the
way
down
to
america,
but
the
way
I'm
hearing
the
discussion
right
now
is
you're,
really
talking
about
doing
some
additional
drainage
work
between
america
and
grande.
I
Well
that
and
that's
primarily
it
you
know,
we
were
kind
of
hoping
to
slide
just
the
additional
concrete
work
of
the
path
in
with
the
initial
change
order,
but
as
we
got
into
it,
we
saw
that
we
really
need
a
good,
solid,
curb
and
gutter
on
the
south
side
of
that
section
of
roadway,
which,
which
would
have
been
in
the
next
phase,
and
also
some
additional
catch
basins
or
inlets
and
some
piping
to
connect
that,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
size
that
piping
appropriately,
so
just
a
small
amount
of
modeling
to
make
sure
that's
done
and
then
there's
some
wet
areas
in
there
and
dave
mcdonald
had
been
wanting
some
something
for
that.
I
So
we're
looking
at
putting
in
some
kind
of
underdrain
exfiltration
drain
piping,
along
with
that
sidewalk.
So
a
little
bit
more
infrastructure
we
felt
was
necessary.
While
we
were
constructing
that
section
of
that
sidewalk.
C
So
so
it's
both
the
sidewalk
and
the
drainage
that
you're
proposing
under
this
this
request.
I
C
But
the
comment
back
then
was
we
really
need
to
do
the
design
work
for
the
second
phase
and
know
that
we're
not
going
to
obstruct
or
impede
something
before
proceeding
with
that
now
we're
going
ahead
and
proceeding
with
it.
So
I
was
just
trying
to
get
an
understanding
of
what
changed
that
allowed
us
to
proceed
where
we
couldn't
do
it
before.
I
Well,
I
think
what
what
changed
primarily
was.
You
know
this.
We
went
to
council
a
couple
of
times
and
came
in
front
of
you
folks,
a
couple
times
and
kind
of
got
a
little
bit
sensitive
of
where
whether
we
could
put
the
sidewalk
or
that
path,
rather
on
the
north
side
or
the
south
side,
but
got
a
lot
of
exposure,
and
every
time
we
mentioned
that
this
project
area
was
only
up
to
grande.
I
There
was
some
some
concern
and
pushed
back
and
and
then,
when
you
know
when
that
got
approved,
and
we
got
farther
along,
we
started
having
I
started
having
these
concerns
that
we
were
going
to
be
seen
as
building
a
a
foot
path
to
nowhere
and
it
was
going
to
dead
in
so
then
we
we
started
really
getting
concerned
about.
I
If
there
were,
if
we
couldn't
just
easily
extend
that
say
via
change
order
with
the
construction
contractor
and
we
and
it
took
us-
you
know
a
year
and
a
half
two
years
to
get
to
where
we
could
construct
the
next
phase,
then
we
would,
we
would
have
a
missing
section
of
sidewalk.
So
I
just
felt
more
and
more
pressure.
A
C
C
G
I
A
F
Yes,
sir,
mr
chairman,
this
is
the
long-awaited
approval
of
the
cra
program
manager,
job
description
at
the
cra's
june
10th
workshop,
the
chairman
invited
jim
gilmore
partner
with
gilmore
hagan
and
partners,
also
with
taylor
medea,
to
discuss
the
cra's
intent
to
create
a
job
discussion,
description
for
and
to
hire
a
redevelopment
program
manager
to
assist
the
administrator
in
the
overall
operation
of
the
cra.
F
It's
my
intent
following
agency
approval
of
the
attached
job
description
to
include
it
with
a
new
public
works
department,
job
description
unrelated,
but
it's
the
same
process
to
be
approved
by
the
city
council
at
their
october
5th
2020
meeting
for
inclusion
in
the
city's
pay
plan,
the
new
hire
will
be
a
city
of
jacksonville
beach,
employee
in
the
planning
and
development
department
reporting
to
the
cra
administrator
myself
upon
its
inclusion
into
the
city
pay
plan.
The
job
description
may
be
posted
and
advertised.
F
F
Finalists,
who
will
be
excuse
me
finalists,
will
also
be
invited
to
a
special
cra
meeting
so
that
the
agency
members
will
have
the
opportunity
to
meet
and
talk
with
them.
It's
anticipated
that
the
job
description
could
be
filled
sometime
before
january
thirty,
first,
twenty
twenty
one
staff
forex,
recommends
approval
of
the
attack,
cra
program
manager,
position
and
one
thing
that
was
not
listed
in
the
description.
F
If
it
goes
forward
as
we
propose,
this
may
be
overkill
to
y'all,
but
it
will
be
pay
grade
322
in
the
city's
pay
plan,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
the
minimum
salary
for
grade
322
is
fifty
three
thousand
seven
hundred
dollars.
The
midpoint
is
seventy
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
and
the
maximum
at
that
pay
grade
is
eighty
seven
thousand
one
hundred
ten
dollars
and
as
a
department,
I
tried
to
align
that
fairly
closely
with
our
senior
planner
position.
F
A
F
A
Two
quick
questions
for
you
before
I
go
to
taylor.
You
said
it's
going
to
be
posted
internally.
It
didn't
post
internally
for
how
long
before
it
goes.
Oh,
no.
F
A
F
Say
that
at
all
it
will
be
advertised.
There's
nobody
internally
to
fill
the
position,
not
that
I
know
of
no,
it
will
def
it'll
go
out.
It
will
be
we'll
put
it
on
the
fr.
Taylor
will
probably
speak
to
this
too,
but
hr
will
actually
be
doing
the
work.
It
will
go
to
the
florida
redevelopment
agency
probably
be
posted
in
apa
american
planning
association
florida
website
and
they
may
go
national
with.
I
think
they
probably
will
get
national
with
as
well
but
I'll.
A
And
one
other
question
who's
on
the
selection
committee,
how's.
F
That
that'll,
that's
something
we
need
to
discuss
after
we
get
the
applications
in
hr
and
myself
can
view
it
against
what
the
qualifications
that
are
listed
in
the
application.
We
can
do
that,
but
we'll
bring
somebody
else
in.
I
would
like
to
have
the
city
manager
involved,
perhaps
yourself
as
to
do
the
final
selection,
but
we
are
going
to
have
a
meeting
with
the
entire
agency,
so
you
can
at
least
see
who
the
finalists
are.
That's
our
intent
going
forward
right
now,
unless
you
tell
me
otherwise.
J
Hi
everyone
I'm
well,
so
I
don't
know
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
over
the
job
description
yet.
But
when
we
were
designing
this,
we
did
a
lot
of
research,
especially
with
bill's
help
on
other
similar
positions
throughout
the
state.
J
When
it
comes
to
cras,
we
thought
that
this
is
a
good
description
to
kind
of
encompass,
not
exactly
an
executive
director,
but
somebody
who
would
have
a
good
amount
of
responsibility
and
can
work
with
you
directly,
as
well
as
with
the
city
council
and
outside
people
like
business
owners
and
stakeholders.
So
we
think
that
encompasses
that
well
and
only
to
add
to
what
bill
said.
We
were
also
thinking
about
posting,
this
job
description
on
the
economic
development
council
website
as
well,
and
they
work
nationally.
G
Yes
and
when
we
entertain
the
approval
of
the
budget
for
2021
seems
like
we
had
a
line
item
in
there
for
a
position
like
this
for
around
62
000
range.
I
know
you
gave
us
a
range,
but
it
seems
like
60
2006
in
my
mind
and
is
that
correct.
F
Actually,
mr
hall,
I
believe
the
amount
for
budgetary
purposes
was
77
000.
That
was
before
we
assigned
the
grade,
but
it
does
fall
within
this
pay
range.
So
if
anything,
we
feel
we
are
adequately
funded
for
something
maybe
in
the
low
to
mid
range
of
the
salary
range.
So
it
was
contemplated
just
not
to
exact
dollar
amount.
We
couldn't
speculate
on
the
exact
dollar
amount.
F
A
E
I
have
two
things
when
I
was
reading
through
it.
It
mentioned
that,
obviously
they
would
d
the
liaison
with
us
as
well
as
the
city,
but
I
didn't
see
anything,
and
maybe
I
just
missed
it,
but
I
thought
we
had
asked
that
this
person
would
be
responsible
to
give
the
city
council
regular
updates
and
be
available
at
all
meetings.
I
did
not
see
that
in
here.
I
know
it
said
or
other
other
action
items
that
would
be
relevant
to
their
position.
F
I
don't
feel
it
needs
to
be
that
that
level
of
specificity
number
one
number
two,
it
still
may
be
myself
or
whoever
would
be
the
administrator
for
the
city
administrator
for
the
agency
to
get
the
briefings
from
that
person.
Maybe
have
that
person
attend
like
kl
attends
with
the
public
works
engineer
for
support,
but
that
may
be
a
function
that
I
would
continue
on
as
I
do
right
now.
J
And
just
to
add
bell,
I
think
it's
about
the
third
bullet
point
down
under
essential
job
functions,
prepares
executive
summaries
and
presentations
for
the
city
council
related
to
cra
activities.
E
I
just
wasn't
sure
if
they
needed
to
say
preparers
and
participate
in
participation
participates,
need
to
be
part
of
that
or
not.
Which
brings
me
to
my
second
question
bill.
I
see
that
is
under
director
of
planning
development,
I'm
assuming
they
will
be
reporting
to
you
is
there.
Is
that
the
hierarchy
of
that
or
is
there
another
person
they
report
to
or
are
they
kind
of
their
own
person?
E
Okay,
the
reason
I
was
asking
is
I
was
trying
to
get
to
where
there
was
less
on
your
plate
and
they
were
getting
some
additional.
You
know
things
moving,
so
I
just
didn't
know
if
that
was
going
to
be.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
how
I
understood
to
be
with
you.
F
E
I
get
that
I
just
wanted
to
see.
That's
why
I
wanna
make
sure
that
was
the
right
department
that
should
be
underneath.
I
didn't
know
if
we
should
be
in
a
different
department,
if
that
was
the
department
that
normally
these
positions
would
be
underneath,
because
you
know,
because
we,
because
we
we
have
combined
departments
underneath
one
head
and
if
we
sub
categoried
them
out,
they
could
technically
be
their
own
department
in
the
future.
Is
what
you're
saying
if
it
becomes
bigger.
F
E
E
C
Just
following
up
on
francis's
comments,
I
mean
I
agree.
I
was
under
the
impression
that
ultimately,
the
this
program
manager
was
really
working
for
the
cra
and
not
specifically
associated
with
city
and
city
staff.
You
know
in
the
job
summary
in
that
last
sentence.
I
would
think
that
it's
it's
appropriate
to
strike
director
of
planning
and
development
and
just
say
cra,
administrative
director,
because
that's
who
they
ought
to
be
reporting
to,
because
that
could
conceivably
change
at
some
point
in
the
future.
C
It
could
be
somebody
else,
and
so
I
I
would
think
that
that
would
be
an
appropriate
change,
also
a
little
bit
further
up.
In
that
same
paragraph,
it
says
relating
to
cra
infrastructure
construction.
C
I
think
we
ought
to
strike
infrastructure
because
it's
construction
projects,
it's
not
just
infrastructure
projects.
It's
all
construction
projects
that
the
cra
is
is
going
to
be
involved
in
when
you
go
to
page
two
of
the
job
description,
a
small
minor
item
in
the
bullet
point
that
starts
interacts
with
various
city
departments,
including
parks
and
recreation,
public
works
to
ensure
capital
maintenance
projects.
C
Then,
when
you
get
into
qualifications,
I
think
we're
we're
missing
a
large.
C
Categories
here
in
the
under
qualifications,
I
don't
think
we
need
urban
planning
and
business
administration
as
a
description.
I
think
bill
brings
the
urban
planning
component
to
the
table.
So
that's
not
really
what
we're
looking
for
for
this
individual
public
administration,
yes,
economics,
marketing,
finance,
I
think
we're
looking
for
somebody
that
really
has
construction
and
design
capabilities
more
from
a
real
estate
architecture,
program
management
side,
then,
from
economics,
marketing
and
finance.
C
C
I
you
know
if
you
have
somebody
that
has
a
bachelor's
degree
has
seven
years
of
worth
of
experience
working
on
designing
construction
projects
as
as
a
project
manager,
I
think
that's
a
greater
value
than
than
a
master's
degree.
Sorry,
but
that's
that's
the
experiences
that
I've
had
trying
to
hire
a
similar
position
in
the
past.
C
It's
a
it's
a
very
difficult
position
to
fill,
because
it
does
require
a
lot
of
different
qualifications,
but
I
think
you
will
tend
to
find
those
individuals
a
little
bit
more
in
the
real
estate
and
architecture
side.
A
I
actually
questioned
the
master's
degree
myself
caleb.
Would
you
speak
to
that?
My
guess
was
that
you
start
off
that
you
kind
of
send
off
the
selection,
the
selection
pool.
If
you
decide
you
need
to
broaden
a
little
bit,
you
can
always
drop
that
off,
but
taylor
is
there
a
reason
why
you
guys
put
that
on
there.
J
We
just
added
it
as
a
preference,
mainly
because
a
lot
of
other
job
descriptions
for
this
kind
of
position
did
say
masters
preferred,
and
I
think
that's
a
good
point
to
add
gary
to
add
that
if
you
do
have
experience
or
any
sort
of
education
in
real
estate
or
architecture,
we
can
add
that
these
are
just
lists
of
the
fields
that
people
who
feel
these
positions
usually
come
from.
But
it
would
be
a
good
addition
to
put
those
in
there.
F
The
other,
the
other
reasons
excuse
me
again.
This
is
parody
throughout
my
department,
because
this
person
will
be
a
member
of
my
department.
The
person
that
we
have
that
fills
our
senior
planner
position
does
have
a
master's
degree
in
city
planning
and
that's
partly
justification
for
that
salary
range.
So
we
kind
of
view
that
as
hey,
if
you've
got
a
master's
and
you've
only
got
four
years,
but
if
you
were
hired
with
a
masters,
you
were
hired
a
little
higher
up
in
the
food
chain
and
you
may
be
able
to
hit
the
ground
running
further.
F
It's
just
a
it's
a
it
further
adds
to
this
blend
of
what
the
ideal
candidate
may
be
and
gary
to
your
point,
I
have
no
problem
adding
construction
management,
real
estate
and
architecture.
As
experience
points,
I
have
no
problem
doing
that
I'd
kind
of
like
to
hear
from
the
group
before
we
start
making
these
changes,
though,.
A
C
C
F
The
idea,
the
enabling
legislation
for
the
cra
specifically
states
that
staff
will
fall
under
the
management
and
organization
of
the
city
staff
infrastructure.
That's
why
that's
in
there!
That's
why
it's
there!
That's
why
I'm
the
planning
director
and
I
do
that
part-time.
That's
why
our
city
engineer
is
not
a
direct
cra
employee
work
for
the
public
works
department,
that's
just
a
caveat
that
how
the
cra
was
enabled
originally.
So
we
just
we're
following
suit
with
that.
A
Whatever
we
hire
is
going
to
have
to
work
in
a
planned
apartment
initially,
because
there's
really
no
person
there's
nobody
for
that
person
to
answer
to
you
know
until
they
get
until
they
get
here,
and
you
know,
custom
with
the
city
and
everything
that's
going
on
and
then
their
job
position
may
evolve
from
that.
But
initially
they
got
to
work
for
somebody,
it's
not
going
to
be
the
city
manager,
and
so
that's
where
they're
parked
working
for
bill
and.
B
A
Office,
that's
correct.
That
also
leads
to
the
other
question.
You
said
you
anticipate
hiring
this
person
by
january
1st.
F
F
We
do
have
the
option
to
do
that
and
remember
when
jim
gave
his
original
pitch
for
to
get
the
work.
It
was
that
they
thought
it
could
be
prudent
if
the
cra
and
staff
felt
it
was
prudent
for
them
to
stay
on
board
for
a
month
or
two
after
the
hire
to
help
shadow
them
and
establish
the
lines
of
communication.
Because
that's
what
jim
and
taylor
do-
and
I
have
no
problem
with
that.
But
right
now
their
contract
would
expire
and
it
would
have
to
be
extended,
which
so.
F
E
E
A
B
F
I
think
I'm
getting
the
intent
of
the
blessing,
but
I've
only
heard
from
tui
also
it
needs
to
be
a
formal
item
and
I
can't
come
up
with
a
formal
item
for
this-
an
action
item
for
this
agenda.
If
nothing
else
and
we
y'all
do
establish
that
we
have
a
workshop,
I
can
make
sure
that
this
is
definitely
an
item
on
the
regular
meeting
for
october,
because
the
workshop
well.
A
C
You
know
when,
when
the
when
the
schedule
was
put
out
by
gilmore,
the
schedule
stated
that
we
would
receive
the
job
description
on
august
4th
here
it
is
the
end
of
september
and
we're
now
for
the
first
time
seeing
the
job
description,
and
I
don't
understand
why
that's
the
case,
why
we
didn't
get
it
on
august.
4Th
like
it
was
promised
in
the
in
the
note
that
jim
gilmore
sent
out.
E
Hey
art
before
you
leave,
if
we
do
do
a
workshop,
are
you
available
next
week
since
we
know
the
two
weeks
out,
gary's
not.
E
Is
there
any
date
that
you're
not
free?
Let's
leave
it
that
way.
F
E
A
F
C
E
J
The
word
product
got
pushed
back
mainly
due
to
the
need
to
get
the
the
virtual
training
session
done.
That
did
take
a
good
amount
of
our
time
working
with
cliff
and
bill,
and
I
think
this
is
the
the
most
recent
meeting
since
then
that
you
would
have
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
it
and
approve
the
job
description.
We
have
been
working
with
staff,
I
mean
almost
since
the
beginning
of
september
on
on
really
finalizing
this
document.
J
F
C
Yeah,
but
all
of
that
was
outlined
in
the
letter
that
jim
sent
jim
said
that
the
training
sessions
august
12th
the
job
description
august
20th,
and
then
it
goes
on
internal
communication
recommendation
august
4th.
I
haven't
seen
anything
on
the
internal
recommendation
for
communication.
J
We
do
have
that
document
and
we
from
what
I
remember
it
was
an
internal
discussion
looking
at
the
training,
the
timing
that
you
guys
had
in
the
training
meeting,
because
jim
and
I
did
have
a
section
at
the
bottom
of
that
for
internal
communications-
and
we
have
that
document
ready.
It
wasn't
on
the
agenda
to
be
shared
today,
but
we
have
that
document
ready
to
to
spread
out
between
everyone.
E
We,
I
think
gary
wants
to
make
sure
that
we're
staying
on
point
and
the
contract
that
we
had
with
them
is
actually
without
outside
interference,
obviously
staying
on
track,
so
we
can
decide
about
the
value
moving
forward.
That's
how,
if
I'm
putting
words
in
your
mouth
gary,
please
tell
me,
but
that's
how
I
feel
that's
what
I
think
he's
asking
for
the
work.
J
Or-
and
we
understand
that-
and
I
think
the
other
deliverables
are
in
external
communication
strategy,
which
will
follow
the
internal
one
and
then
recommendations
of
potential
incentives
in
an
economic
toolbox
as
well,
which
we
have
shared
with
staff
that
we've
been
working
on.
F
Okay,
these
will
be
discussed
when
we
vet,
when
we
do
come
up
with
the
vetting
of
the
extension
of
their
contract.
That's
what
that's
how
we
can
address
this.
E
Will
you
also
include
when
the
stuff
you're
going
to
provide
us
for
our
workshop?
Will
you
also
include
what
it
is?
We
would
expect
for
you
to
do
in
the
next
couple
months,
once
we
have
someone
like
in
the
process
of
hiring
someone
what
we
should
expect
in
the
next
level
of
service
from
you,
please
absolutely
gary.
Are
you
good.
C
Yeah,
I
think
so
I
you
know
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we've
got
all
of
these
items
moving
along
and
we're
getting
them
completed
in
a
timely
manner.
You
know
we
knew
that
this
job
description
is
important.
We've
been
wanting
to
get
this
person
on
board
for
two
years.
D
Yeah,
I
got
two
things
first,
to
confirm
one
of
gary's
points
about
on
that
bullet
point
separating
out
capital
and
maintenance,
because
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
I
for
one
from
the
beginning
have
wanted
out
of
this
position-
is
that
if
we
see
things
or
there's
things
that
are
noticed
in
the
downtown
area
that
the
cra
person
can
go
to
the
different
departments,
if
some,
if
parks
and
recreation
isn't
doing
something
right
or
we
feel
they
could
do
a
better
job
of
this-
that
or
the
other
or
code
enforcement,
we
have
some
issues,
potentially
with
code
enforcement,
that
this
person
will
interact
with
the
agencies
that
we
can't
do
and
address
the
concerns
that
we
would
raise,
or
that
are
spotted
the
second
thing,
and
that
relates
a
little
bit
to
that
is.
D
I
would
like
to
see
you
know
without
assuming
we're
not
getting
too
specific
here,
but
one
of
the
functions
is
to
do
regular,
drive
and
walk
throughs
of
both
cras
to
identify
issues
that
might
be
brought
to
our
attention,
including
maintenance
needs,
resident
inputs,
project
project
process,
progress
just
to
get
a
hands-on
close
view
of.
What's
going
on
in
both
cras.
F
F
Of
that
will
be
determined
after
we
get
the
person,
though,
to
see
you
know
how
they
may
have
different
styles.
Somebody
want
to
do
it
every
day.
Some
people
may
want
to
do
it
twice
a
week
with
the
administrator.
Some
people
may
want
to
do
it
once
with.
I
understand,
that's
a
variable
and
that
factually
that
will
happen,
they're
going
to
be
a
person
on
the
street.
That's
why
we're
getting
a
full-time
person.
I
just
don't
know
that
we
need
to
you
know
delineate
it
that
much
in
the
job
description.
E
Jeff,
may
I
extend
that
question
out
real
quick
to
bill
mann.
I'm
assuming
we
had
talked
about
multiple
times
about
a
list
of
complaints
or
like
jeff,
was
saying
items
that
we
would
like
repaired
and
taken
care
of
maintenance
wise.
I'm
assuming
that
you're
saying
that
we're
going
to
tell
them.
E
We
want
some
system
that
does
that
so
they're
keeping
track
of
it,
because
that's
how
they
work
versus
it
actually
being
part
of
the
job
description
as
a
job
requirement
to
be
able
to
do
yesterday,
because
I
I
would
think
that
the
cra
as
a
whole
would
probably
direct
that
we
would
want
a
listing
of
what
is
being
requested
and
what's
being
completed,
and
I
think
that's
what
we're
getting
at.
There's
gonna
be
some
kind
of
relay
to
that,
but
that's
more
and
they
will
be
requested.
F
E
There's
because
originally
this
all
started
with,
where
is
the
list
and
who's
keeping
track
of
it?
It's
like.
Oh,
the
police
sent
it
here,
someone
else
sent
it
there
and
there's
no
centralized
place
so
for
us
and
our
districts.
We
were
wanting
someone
who
would
take
that
list
and
own
it,
and
I
think
that
f
is
getting
out.
It's
like.
Where
is
that
list
how's
this
going
to
be
done
so
in
a
way
that
extends
qualifications
to
organized
and
it's
a
simple
thing,
but
some
people
are
not
organized,
they
can
be
super.
E
Smart
have
super
great
degrees,
but
if
they
can't
color
code
worth
the
darn,
then
you
really
aren't
ever
get
what
you
need.
So
I'm
just
gonna
say
that
so
anybody
anybody
else
have
any
questions
in
regards
to
this
job
description.
E
F
Fine,
is
it
not
your
intent
to
try
to
get
ver
blessings
of
the
revisions
we
make
tonight?
I
can
reach
out.
E
F
E
Well,
if
it's,
if
the
board
is
or
the
agency's
good
to
approve
these
changes,
now
that
we're
going
to
go
over
with,
then
we
would
I'm
fine
with
having
a
vote
tonight.
I.
E
Okay,
so
guys,
let
me
know
if
I'm
on
track
or
if
I'm
missing
anything,
so
this
can
be
for
the
permanent
record.
We
are
I'm
going
to
start
from
the
beginning.
First
paragraph
job
summary:
we
are
going
to
request
that
they
remove
infrastructure,
so
it
just
says
cra
construction.
E
C
Before
you
leave
that,
when
you
said,
can
you
know
take
out
infrastructure
and
you
know
just
construction,
I
would
say
construction
projects.
E
Anybody
else
have
a
problem
with
that
being
worded.
This
position
oversees
various
projects
relating
to
cra
construction
projects
versus
syria,
cra
construction.
E
On
page
two,
it
looks
like
it's
one,
two,
three,
four,
five:
six,
the
seventh
dot
down
interacts
with
various
city
departments,
including
parks,
recreation
and
publix
works
to
ensure
capital
improvements
projects.
Or
how
do
you
guys
capital
and
maintenance
projects?
E
Okay,
so
we're
just
going
to
insert
and
in
between
capital
and
maintenance,
and
then
we
are
going
to
go
to
qualifications.
C
Excuse
me
before
you
move
too
far.
I
did
have
one
additional
bullet
point
that
I
was
mentioning
that
would
be
advantageous.
I
think,
to
have
there
and
that's
to
have
to
be
involved
in
development
marketing
to
potential
businesses,
something
along
those
lines.
E
E
F
E
Find
it,
I
personally
think
we
should
include,
keep
it
in
there,
because
it's
not
saying
it's
required,
so
I
I
personally,
I
don't
want
to
amend
that.
I
want
to
have
an
agreeance
with
everyone
else
or
at
least
a
vote
if
two
of
them
are
fine
with
them,
we'll
move
forward.
So
gary,
are
you,
okay,
leaving
the
master
master,
preferred
master
degree
ferd.
You.
C
Know
I
I
think
you
can
leave
it
in
there.
The
challenge
that
you're
going
to
have
is
that,
if
you're
going
to
the
typical
marketplace
for
a
master's
degree
for
the
salary
ranges
that
you're
talking
about
it
doesn't
match
up
with
what's
happening
in
the
marketplace.
Okay,.
C
That's
where
my
concern
is
because
I've
hired
these
positions
before
and
a
master's
degree
takes
you
into
a
different
realm
and
it's
you
know
bill.
Your
experience
is
more
on
the
urban
design
and
planning
and
things,
maybe
that's
true
in
urban
planning
and
design.
But
it's
not
not
on
the
program
management
side
for
the
kind
of
individual
individual
that
we're
talking
about
and
again
I
I've
got
a
number
of
things.
I
think
that
should
be
crossed
out
or
eliminated
in
that
qualification
section.
C
You
know:
economics,
marketing,
finance,
planning,
business
administration,
that
those
are
areas
that
don't
provide
us.
The
capabilities
that
we're
really
looking
for
for
this
position.
E
So
gary,
if
I
may,
having
a
wider
range
of
degrees,
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
we're
not
going
to
find
the
qualifications.
In
my
personal
opinion,
I
just
say
that,
and
I'm
not
trying
to
be
argumentative,
I
will
say
in
my
own
personal
business,
I
found
someone
who
had
a
degree
in
marketing
and
they
are
by
far
the
best
at
what
the
job
is,
which
is
not
anywhere
near
what
marketing
is
or
social
marketing
is.
E
So
I
do
think,
there's
qualifications
in
other
areas,
and
I
think,
maybe,
if
we
narrow
it
too
much
as
far
as
that's
concerned,
those
areas
are
concerned,
it
may
limit
who
goes
in,
especially
if
we
do
have
the
master's
degree.
Some
I'm
good
either
way.
I
kind
of
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
want
to
have
another
look
at
what
they
come
up
with
for
qualifications,
but
me
personally
the
only
thing
that
I
would
recommend
the
changes
is
adding
the
real
estate
architecture
and
the
construction
that
we
talked
about.
G
Yes,
I
agree
with
you
and
yes,
I
think
the
master's
degree
it
does
not
say
required,
it
does
say
preferred.
So
I
think
we
need
to
leave
that
in
there
and
keep
that
range
in
and
I
agree
with,
I
agree.
G
E
Will
say,
though,
gary
just
to
play
devil's
advocate
just
a
little
bit.
I
will
say
if
they
cannot
find
it
sign
someone
that
fits
this
description,
that
we
will
probably
review
it
in
january
if
they
have
not
found
somebody,
and
we
will
dumb
this
down
even
more
if
need
be,
and
I
don't
mean
that
in
an
intellectual
way
I
mean
just
making
it
more
pointed
to
making
it
more
broad
for
the
specific
skills
we're
looking
for,
because
I'm.
C
Hoping
I
guess
what
I'd
like
what
would
be
interesting
to
hear
from
all
of
the
members
of
the
agency
is:
what
is
it
that
you're,
specifically
thinking
is
needed
for
this
position?
Maybe
what
I'm
thinking
is
totally
wrong,
but
I
don't
have
a
clear
understanding
of
what
everybody
else
is
thinking
at
this
time.
What
is
it
that
you're
looking
for
the
capabilities
of
this
individual
being
when
they
work
for
the
cra.
E
I
will
speak
for
myself
and
then
I
will
open
the
floor
to
jeff
and
sam.
I
will
tell
you
for
me:
it
is
someone
who
is
self-sufficient,
who
will
self-educate.
E
I
also
think
it's
somebody
who
is
willing
to
work
through
the
channels
to
get
to
become
management,
and
to
do
that,
sometimes
you
have
to
take
a
step
down
to
go
up,
but
you
need
that
person
to
be
qualified
for
the
higher
part
job.
That's
why
the
just
the
qualifications
fit
for
me.
Anyone
who
is
in
that
position
needs
to
be
organized
and
self-directed
and
self-aware.
I
guess,
is
the
best
way
to
put
it.
E
So
for
me,
it's
that's
the
kind
of
person
who
can
get
things
done
and
take
initiative
and
you're
not
going
to
find
that
in
a
lot
of
people
who
don't
have
a
lot
of
these
experiences
in
this
qualification.
To
me.
Personally,
that's
just
me.
I
think
you
can
take
somebody
who,
let's
just
say,
has
an
experience
of
nursing
completely,
doesn't
make
any
sense
for
what
we're
looking
for,
but
that
person
manages
people
that
person
is
very
organized
in
detail.
That
person
does
follow
up
with
multiple
doctors
and
multiple
different
departments.
E
D
Yeah
again,
my
view
of
this
position
is
it's
a
liaison
from
us
to
all
the
different
departments
in
the
city
to
get
the
cra
projects
in
appearance
and
done
and
looking
the
way
we
want
to.
They
need
to
have
a
basic
level
of
experience
and
training
to
be
able
to
know
how
to
talk
public
works
and
talk
code
enforcement
and
things
like
that,
but
we're
not
looking
for
a
professional
designer
or
anything
like
that
again.
I,
this
is
a
resource
for
us
to
draw
everything
together
and
get
things
coordinated
within
the
cra.
G
Sam,
yes,
I'm
looking
at
the
public
administration
and
economic
and
marketing,
I
think
there's
a
more
of
a
construction
component
to
this,
but
by
the
same
token,
I
want
to
leave
some
latitude
in
there
for
the
hiring
personnel
to
make
a
decision
and
not
eliminate
some
good
candidates,
because
they
do
not
meet
every
bullet
point
that
is
on
here,
so
but
the
economics
and
marketing
kind
of
bill.
How
much
of
that
is
really
required
in
the
job?
I'm
gonna
have
to
defer
to
you
on
that.
Well,.
F
That
that
depends
on
the
direction
of
the
agency
going
forward.
This
both
of
our
districts
have
primarily
been
involved
with
infrastructure,
the
to
build
it
and
they
will
come
the
field
of
dreams,
type
of
mentality.
The
infrastructure
work
is
primarily
done,
so
the
cra
is
positively
evolving
into
doing
more
proactive
development,
work
and
development
recruiting.
So
I
can
see
marketing
being
a
part
of
it.
We
did
we,
we
hired
a
retail
retail
strategies
to
come
up
with
a
market
mix
for
the
cra.
F
Unfortunately,
the
benefits
of
their
work
got
some
job
or
got
some
new
development
outside
the
cra,
but
not
necessarily
in
the
downtown
district.
So
having
somebody
on
board
with
that
exposure
we'd
still,
I
would
imagine
if
we're
going
to
do
a
full
marketing
study,
it's
not
going
to
be
conducted
by
this
program
manager.
F
They
may
manage
the
contract
for
whoever
we
would
sub
out
to,
because
there
are
people
that
do
market
analysis
studies
and
that's
all
they
do
economic
analysis
and
that's
that's
where
our
money
is
better
spent,
so
for
them
to
be
exposed
to
it
yeah,
but
do
they
next?
Do
they
necessarily
need
to
be
a
marketing
manager
and
a
you
know
in
a
top
20
or
fortune
500
real
estate
firm?
I
don't
know,
I
think,
that's
probably
overkill.
That's
a
bad
example.
I'm
sorry.
G
Yeah,
yes,
it
does
and
I'm
thinking
if
someone
comes
in
with
seven
years
of
experience,
they
would
have
touched
on
some
of
the
skill
sets
we've
been
discussing.
So
that's
where
I
am.
D
I
E
So
I
agree
with
that,
so
it
sounds
like
in
consensus
gary
that
we
all
want
a
personable
person
who
has
experience
and
or
will
learn,
said
language
has
no
problem
speaking
their
mind
to
make
sure
they
can
be
an
advocate
for
the
agency
and
can
develop
that
agency
and
report
within
the
city
to
separate
from
bill's
group
to
create
their
own
group.
It's
kind
of
the
rapport
I'm
getting
from
everybody.
E
E
We're
going
to
add
those
three
in
there
and
everything
else
is
the
same
other
than
that
there
was
nothing
added
or
changed
on
the
last
page.
Is
that
all
the
changes
that
we
would
like
gary.
F
D
E
E
So
I
am
willing
to
entertain
a
motion.
G
In
a
motion
that
we
present
the
job
qualifications
as
amended
in
an
effort
to
expedite
this
well,
the
expedition
part
that
does
not
have
to
be
there,
but
with
with
revisions
that
are
recommended
by
the
cra.
Okay,.
E
B
Yes,
ma'am
also,
can
I
ask
that
it
be
clarified
additionally
because
of
the
wording.
B
B
And
then
jeff
did
you
second,
what
bill
just
said.
D
C
G
G
B
E
F
Ma'am,
I
already
gave
you
a
description
of
downtown
projects
and
as
an
intro
into
your
workshop,
because
that's
what
I
was
going
to
ask
you
is
what
the
topic
of
the
workshop
is.
But
the
first
thing
is
is
to
have
jim
and
taylor,
provide
us
an
overview
or
a
review
of
the
internal
communications
recommendation,
and
also
to
outline
what
would
be
expected
of
them
if
the
job
is
extended,
if
their
contract
is
extended
to
allow
them
to
stay
on
board.
For
the
first
several
months
of
the
new
hire.
E
Correct
and
and
then,
if
you
needed
the
topic,
I'll
kind
of
go
over
what
I
wanted
to
talk
to
the
group,
the
reason
I
called
for
a
workshop-
and
I
know
I
didn't
really
get
you
guys
as
input
before
we
set
the
date,
but
I
had
to
do
that
art.
So
hopefully,
I'm
hoping
you
all
are
on
board
with
this,
but
regardless
we
at
least
have
another
object,
another
topic
to
discuss.
E
So
we
have
a
meeting
now
so
I
went
through
and
I'm
assuming
all
of
you
have
done
your
research
based
off
the
or
at
least
dove
into
the
document
provided
to
us
by
the
shepherd
group.
E
I've
been
digging
through
it,
the
zoning
code,
the
comprehensive
plans
trying
to
really
get
a
good
grasp
of
it,
because
it
didn't
quite
give
me
the
information.
I
personally
thought
I
would
get
from
it
and
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
felt
the
same
way.
So
I'm
really
calling
a
meeting
a
workshop,
meaning
for
us
to
kind
of
grab
our
hands
wrap
our
hands
around
what
it
is.
E
This
document
is
saying
and
what
we
can
do
or
can
not
do
moving
forward,
and
I
say
that
because
when
I
looked
at
I
mean
I've
done,
color
coding
and
I've
done
so
much
research
on
it.
It's
kind
of
insane
to
be
completely
honest
with
you,
but
after
going
through
it,
I
am
questioning
if
we
should
try
to
move
forward
with
the
current
plan
or
if
we
should
just
request.
E
The
city
council
create
a
brand
new
plan,
and
I
want
to
give
you
guys
an
example
as
to
why
I
say
that,
and
that
way,
when
you
guys
look
at
it
for
the
next
week,
you
can
kind
of
hear
where
I
am
why
I'm
calling
the
meeting,
because
I
have
been
a
big
component
and
an
advocate
of
saying,
let's
get
something
done
so
after
digging
through
it,
as
you
guys
know,
just
as
a
little
history,
you
guys
know.
I
had
to
write
down
some
notes
because
it
was
just
too
much
to
remember.
E
You
know
the
downtown
is
known
as
the
central
business
ditcher
to
cbd,
which
is
why
I
was
kind
of
asking
bill
about
the
zoning
and
what
parts
of
it
are
no
longer
underneath
that
zoning.
You
guys
know
that
that
that
district
is
mentioned
in
the
comprehensive
plan
and
that
comprehensive
plan
gives
us
the
flexibility
to
develop.
E
However,
we
want
with
inside
plan
parameters,
so
there's
one
part
inside
that
comprehensive
plan
is
policy,
lu,
1.5.10
that
states
that
the
area
allows
for
medium
to
high
density,
residential,
commercial,
industrial,
recreational
and
entertainment
use
as
well
as
transportation
and
communication
facilities.
The
x,
the
exact
location,
distribution
and
density
of
various
types
of
land
used
in
the
redundant
edge
redevelopment
agency
will
be
guided
by
the
site
development
plan's
approval
as
downtown
redevelopment
plan.
So
that's
what
we
had
him
review
with
the
color
coding
that
he
said
he
did
so.
E
I
went
through
that
in
grade,
meaning
it
was.
It
was
no
longer
relevant
and
it
had
different.
Green
was
relevant,
so
I
looked
through
it
and
if
you
look
at
the
property
that
we
actually
own
and
I'm
just
giving
you
guys
this
information,
can
you
see
why
I
was
looking
at
it
and
why
I'm
making
it
important
that
we
kind
of
decide
which
direction
we
want
to
go?
They
had
these
corridors.
E
So
if
you
use
the
pure
corridor
for
an
example
and
you
cross
reference
all
these
documents
and
what
he
says,
it
says
that
that
area
and
the
cra
in
the
peer
corridor
is
to
encourage
infill
residential
based
mixed-use
development
along
4th
avenue
north,
which
makes
me
wonder
how
we
ended
up
with
a
restaurant
in
the
corner.
That's
still
not
doesn't
have
a
renter
and
how
we
ended
up
with
a
museum
if
it's
supposed
to
be
residential.
E
So
there's
that
and
then,
if
you
look
at
the
rest
of
it,
it
talks
about
how
the
cra
is
also
responsible
in
that
same
corridor,
to
provide
public
parking,
a
public
parking
garage
to
serve
the
beach
and
the
retail
users,
the
beach,
the
residence
and
the
retail
area
for
that
district
for
that
corridor.
And
if
you
look
at
our
stuff,
we
only
have
that
lot
next
to
ritz
and
the
little
staging
place
in
the
empty
parking
lot
on.
Fourth.
So
if
you
follow
that
logic
in
that
purview,
we
have
to.
E
Yeah
going
down
third
and
looking
down
towards
the
pier,
if
you
follow
what
the
current
plan
and
if
I'm
following
it
right
the
fourth
street,
where
the
flat
parking
lot
is
now
and
the
police
station
technically
needs
to
be
residential
multi-use.
E
And
then,
if
you
go
further
down
to
the
next
block,
where
we've
been
talking
about
purchasing
those
apartments
or
even
we
should
maybe
consider
the
ritz,
which
is
a
whole
nother
thing.
When
you
look
at
our,
I
did
this
little
chart
with
the
500
feet
for
bars,
we're
supposed
to
continue
that
block
to
be
multi-use
residential,
but
also
provide
parking
for
those
residential
people
and
beach.
So
it's
kind
of
like
a
hodgepodge.
So
if
you're
going
down
third
street
you'll
be
between
the
metropolitan
and
a
big
building,
two
different
buildings.
E
Is
that
really
what
we
want,
and
also,
if
you're
going
from
third
street
to
the
beach,
the
pier
it's
all
gonna,
be
residential
and
not
necessarily
commercial,
unless
you
can
kind
of
incorporate
it.
So
I
say
that
just
for
the
one-quarters
a
whole
bunch
in
there
and
I
had
to
follow
all
those
different
places
so
in
our
so
so
in
our
workshop.
What
I'd
like
us
to
talk
about
is
what
exactly
do
we
understand
now
that
we
have
this?
What
those
quarters
would
look
like
and
what
could
we
do
like
gary?
E
E
It
to
you
first
thing:
tomorrow,
I'm
going
to
go
through
the
whole
thing,
I'm
going
to
scan
it
all
tomorrow
morning
and
I'll
get
it
to
you
tomorrow
morning,
so
you
can
get
it
to
everybody
as
well,
but
the
reason
I
called
the
meeting
or
the
workshop
is
so
that
we
as
a
group
sooner
than
later,
can
say
this
corridor.
This
is
what
it
means
this
quarter.
This
is
what
it
means
this
there's
four.
E
What
can
we
do?
What
does
the
plan
say
and
should
we
move
forward
with
it
and
get
things
done,
or
should
we,
as
a
group,
decide
that
we
may
actually
need
to
revamp
the
whole
thing
with
council?
So
I'm
the
first
one
to
say:
I'm
a
little
disappointed
that
it's
not
the
villages
that
I
thought
it
was
going
to
be
I'll.
Leave
it
at
that.
I
E
I
E
Systems
are
gone,
things
are
put
in
different,
like
there's
places
that
shouldn't
be
there
that
are
don't
even
qualify
for
the
zoning.
I
don't
know
how
they
end
up
being
built
in
those
areas.
So
that's
I
just
that's
what
I
wanted
to
bring
to
you
guys.
I
hope.
That's,
okay,
that's
why
I
called
the
meeting
next
week.
Yes,
bill.
E
I
personally
think
we
as
a
group
need
to
hash
out
our
understanding
of
it
and
then,
if
we
come
up
with
questions
of
well,
this
is
what
we
understand.
We
might
just
bring
a
bullet
point.
This
is
what
we
understand.
Your
plan
says
this
is
what
you're
interested
in
what
response
is
back?
We
don't
necessarily
need
them
to
participate,
discussion.
F
The
second
point
I
want
to
make,
though,
was
at
the
end
of
mr
shepard's
presentation:
that's
exactly
how
he
framed
it.
Is
this
document
sufficient
for
you
to
go
forward?
Do
you
want
to
continue
with
this
generally
as
division
going
forward
downtown,
or
would
you
like
us
to
take
the
you
or
another
consulting
firm
to
take
the
next
step
and
prepare
a
new
new
plan
downtown,
that's
kind
of
how
we
left
that.
E
Well
and
after
diving
into
it,
I
reluctantly
am
questioning
it
not
just
because
of
that
one
corridor,
but
also
because
of
the
land
that
we
actually
own.
We
need
either
be
purchasing
the
land
from
the
city,
so
we
can
develop
it
or
we
need
to
be
able
or
other
places
or
we
need
like
even
there's
certain
areas
like.
I
don't
understand
some
of
like
bows,
how
it's
even
but
that's
beside
the
point,
or
I
just
think
that
we're
going
to
hodgepodge
like
we
do
now,
it's
going
to
become
even
more
hajj
podgy.
E
If
we
don't
sit
down
and
say
visually,
this
is
what
it
says.
What
does
that
really
mean
we
can
do
and
is
that
something,
a
capital
improvement
project
we
as
a
cra,
want
to
tackle
and
can
make
work
or
is
it
more
of
a
you
know
what
we
could
do
this,
but
us
as
a
group,
don't
really
think
that
fits
of
parameters
because
of
all
these
unqualified
properties
that
already
developed
are
here
and
we
need
to
start
fresh
with
the
new
with
actual
plans
that
are
like
an
actual
updated
map
of.
D
E
E
So
inside
the
comp,
so
okay
for
you
for
me
to
give
you
that
language,
you
have
to
understand
that
we
are
code
as
cbd
and
the
cbd
is
defined.
Underneath
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
comprehensive
plan
tells
us,
we
have
lots
of
flexibility
and
rights
underneath
our
retire.
Our
development
plan
inside
the
comprehensive
plan,
it's
policy,
ul,
1.
E
1.5.10,
it's
called
central
business
district.
You
can
look
it
up
underneath
the
I
can
send
it
to
you,
but
it's
also
on
our.
F
E
2030
comprehensive
plan,
but
it
was
started
in
2020
2011
fire
call
correctly,
but
that
policy
there's
two
of
them
there's
also
ul
1.3-3,
but
that
one's
not
as
wordy
but
the
first
one
that
one
gives
that
specific
wording
and
that's
how
it
gives
us
the
rights
to
do
whatever
we
really
kind
of
want
to
within
a
downtown
district
plan,
and
that
gave
us
the
right
to
do
the
downtown
area
right.
D
But
you
were
no
I'm.
You
gave
an
example
of
language
residential
development
along
fourth
avenue.
E
I
should
have
read
that
one
down:
it's
a
page,
it's
okay!
So
it's
in
the
memo
that
he
gave
us
huffer's
memo
or
his
big
stuff,
and
if
you
go
to
he
kind
of
summarized
it.
If
you
go
to
the
vision
plan,
page
43
of
his
color-coded
plan
language
document,
did
you
give
us
three
documents?
So
it's
color-coded
plan
language
document,
page
43,
you
will
see
the
different
corridors.
This
actually
starts
on
page
42.
It
has
gateway
corridor,
civic
corridor,
pure
corridor
and
retail
corridor,
oh
and
north
south
streets.
E
So
it
talks
about
these
different
corridors
and
in
there
it
basically
says
in
green,
what's
still
viable
for
us
to
do
in
that
said
corridor,
and
it
says
on
14,
new
residential
and
commercial
development
can
frame
either
side
of
the
new
pure
park.
That's
the
actual,
pier
itself.
But
if
you
look
down
at
17,
it
says:
encourage
infill
residential
based
mixed
use,
development
along
4th,
avenue
north
and
then
it
says:
okay,.
C
E
I'm
gonna
give
everything
that
I
I'm
pointing
out
specifically
to
bill
in
a
scan
document,
but
I
won't
send
the
whole
documents
because
we
have
them,
but
I
will
give
you
a
listing.
The
documents
I'll
give
you
like
a
storyboard
of
what
I'm
pointing
at
just
for
this
specific
quarter,
but
we're
going
to
need
to
talk
about
everything
as
a
whole
and
if
it
ends
up
being
multiple
workshops.
That's
fine,
but
I
just
kind
of
make
sure
we're
on
the
same
mental
capacity,
our
mental
page.
C
C
E
F
With
the
exception-
and
I'm
sorry
I
don't
recall
the
shepherd
product,
the
shepherd
products,
did
you
get
paper
versions
or
would
you
all
given
those
just
a
like?
I.
C
C
You
know
personally,
I
would
like
to
get
a
paper
copy
of
it,
because
we're
going
to
be
flipping
back
and
forth
and
talking
about
it
and
the.
E
F
E
F
Or
in
if
in
terms
of
getting
the
paper
product,
if
you've
got
a
little
production
lag
that
can
go
out,
I
just
have
to
have
it
posted
on
the
website.
Anything
that's
to
be
contemplated
in
the
workshop
or
discuss
at
the
workshop
needs
to
be
posted
with
that
agenda
a
week
before
the
meeting.
That's
that's.
E
E
Okay,
so
guys,
I
will
print
up
those
three
documents.
Specifically,
I
was
looking
at,
but
I'm
going
to
highlight
the
areas
that
I
for
this
specific
quarter
like
there's.
I
didn't
do
the
work
for
every
corridor.
I
just
did
this
one,
because
the
majority
of
the
land
that
we
own
right
now
is
on
that
corridor
like
everywhere
else
is
city
owned,
like
everywhere
else
is
city
owned
we
only
really
own
on
this
one
corner.
E
That's
why
I
focused
in
on
it
and
focusing
it
on
that
made
me
realize
that
this
document
may
not
be
what
we
want
to
go
forward
with
and
if
that's
the
case
and
if
we
have
to
incorporate
city
lots
and
make
sure
that
what
they're
doing
fits
with
the
vision
of
the
plan
as
a
whole
because
they're
supposed
to
be
going
through
us,
it
might
be
something
to
discuss
as
a
group
so
bill,
but
I'll
work
on
that
tomorrow
and
guys
thanks
for
being
patient
with
me.
E
I
know
I
kind
of
made
you
guys
sit
down
and
do
a
meeting
without
knowing
why
I
want
to
read.
But
that's
that's
really
what
I
want
to
boil
down
to
so
jeff.
I
will
get
that
stuff
to
you
too,
but
but
just
for
your
reference,
if
you
do
bogo
online
look
the
two
bullet
points.
I
quoted
page
43
vision,
plan
amendments,
four
five
and
seven
and
it's
numbers
17
and
18..
Those
are
where
I
actually
quoted
from
what
we
could
do
in
the
pure
corridor.
Yeah.
E
G
No,
I
just
want
to
make
a
point
about
the
workshop.
I
I
I
like
doing
a
good
workshop,
but
I
like
to
come
away
with
some
definitive
some
definite
conclusion.
I
know
we
talked
a
lot
about
what
we
want
to
do.
That
sounds
like
that's
going
to
be
pretty
heavy.
We
may
have
to
do
that
or
we
may
have
to
do
that
over
several
workshops,
but
yeah.
Let's,
let's
have
an
agenda,
so
we
can
work
through
this.
F
One
suggestion
is
that
francis
did
hone
in
on
the
commercial
corridor
and
it
is
proximate
to
cra
and
city-owned
properties
that
would
be
available
for
p3
partnerships
for
that
type
of
development.
I
would
suggest
I'm
not
telling
you,
but
I
would
suggest
that
you
focus
this
workshop
next
wednesday
on
that
corridor,
because
the
civic
corridor,
the
retail
corridor,
there's
a
kind
of
self-evidence.
F
We
could
probably
combine
two
of
those
for
a
subsequent
workshop-
I'm
not
talking
about
putting
all
this
to
next
year,
but
I
think
the
exercise
in
justin
now
analyzing
what
they've
come
up
with
in
the
fourth
avenue
corridor,
will
go
a
long
ways
towards
saying.
Well.
How
do
we
want
to
go
forward?
Is
this
enough
for
us,
or
do
we
really
need
a
more
a
plan
with
more
teeth
which.
E
A
lot
so
anyway,
but
that
sam
to
answer
your
question
is,
I
have
no
intention
of
it
being
more
than
two
hours
long.
I
do.
Obviously
it
would
be
on
this
kind
of
platform.
I
don't
know
if
I
have
the
ability
to
share
screen
with
everybody
when
we're
together
or
if
we'll
just
all
look
at
our
books
and
just
reference
pages
since
I'll
make
sure
all
of
us
have
the
same
books.
It's
probably
going
to
work
better.
E
That
way,
I
don't
know
what
bill
man
needs
to
do
for
requirement
purposes,
but
that
would
be
my
intention.
My
guess
is
we'll
go
on,
but
my
intention
is:
let's
talk
about
the.
What
taylor
has
to
talk
about
super
quick,
get
it
done
with
say
a
day
whatever
and
then
dive
into
this
no
more
than
an
hour
hour
and
a
half,
because
after
that
it
gets
mind-boggling
and
I
kind
of
got
grumpy
with
myself.
So
I
don't
want
to
get
grumpy
with
you
guys.
So,
no
more
than
that
honestly.
C
We
need
to
probably
need
to
do
something
similar
for
the
south
beach
district
too.
E
I
think
you're
right,
I
think,
you're
right,
especially
since
we
have.
I
think
that,
though
gary
that
brings
me
to
point
to
your
your
spreadsheets.
I,
like
your
spreadsheets,
very
much.
I
might
actually
want
to
steal
your
formatting
if
that's
okay,
because
it
is
much
more
organized
than
what
my
notes
were.
So
I
might
steal
them,
but
I
think
the
south
beach
may
not
be
necessarily
in
this
language.
It
means
way
more
language
of
what
do
we
have
to
do
and
why
are
we
going
to
go
through
this
morning?.
C
Yes-
and
I
agree
with
you-
it's
it's
a
little
different,
but
it's
in
order
for
us
to
get
our.
We
need
a
plan
pulled
together
so
the
next
year,
when
we
look
at
our
budgeting
and
so
forth,
we
know
what
we
need
to
move
forward
with,
as
it
relates
to
consulting
fees
and
things.
To
that
extent,
along
with
any
construction,
and
how
do
we
expand
that
out
for
a
five-year
capital
campaign
and
excuse
me
capital
program,
it
there's
a
number
of
things
that
all
get
tied
together.
C
So
having
the
plan
is
what's
really
important
and
I'm
ex
you
know
excited
really
to
hear
us
talking
about
this
and
really
getting
you
focused
in
on
it,
because
it's
open
up
a
lot
of
things
for
us
and
it's
also,
hopefully
going
to
you
know,
provide
us
some
real
improvements
in
both
those
districts.
I.
E
Agree
so,
let's
just
say
that,
probably
that
this
workshop
and
maybe
an
overflow
workshop
will
probably
be
focused
on
this
downtown
wording.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
on
the
same
page
and
then
we
either
pass
it
on
to
a
group
discussion
with
council
or
we
just
move
forward
with
it,
one
of
the
two,
whatever
we
as
a
group
decide
and
then
I
would
say
right
after
that.
We
really
need
to
jump
on
our
task
list
for
capital
improvements
and
what
we
feel
about.
E
What's
the
priority
to
prioritize,
what
we
want
to
do
so,
I'm
100
on
board
with
that,
hopefully
I'll
catch
up
art,
so
I'll,
hear
the
rest
of
our
conversations,
I'm
sure
he'll
be
on
board
as
well
bill.
I
think
that
means.
F
He
can
hear
this
on
youtube.
It's
recording.
C
Right
bill,
just
a
quick
question
for
you:
what's
what's
going
on
in
the
south
beach
district
behind
pier
one,
I
know
that
we
had
construction
going
on
on
along
marsh
landing
parkway
on
the
east
side
of
south
beach,
but
there's
been
a
some
construction
going
on
behind
pier
one,
and
I
understood
that
that
was
part
of
a
future
project,
but
they
had
a
tractor
down
there
and
digging
around
I'm
not
sure
what
they
were
doing.
So
I
was
just
curious.
If
you
could
fill
me
in
was.
F
Okay,
they
could,
it
was
probably
getting
rid
of
some
sediment
as
a
result
of
that
box.
Culvert
project.
I
don't
know
that
that
level
is
detailed.
I
don't.
I
don't
babysit
that
project
in
that
level
of
detail.
I
can
find
out
from
dennis.
Dupree
though
it
was
it
was
down
in
the
basin,
was
the
backhoe
down
in
the
basin.
F
F
C
Yeah,
I
know
you
had
said
that
that's
what
you
were
doing
and
I
just
you
know
it
hasn't
been
distributed
to
the
cra
members.
E
H
Yeah,
hey
just
so,
you
know
last
week
this
weekend
the
bars
to
go
back
to
one
o'clock.
They
did
yeah.
They
I
mean
until
two
o'clock.
F
E
Comprehensive
annual
financial
report
annual
budget
2019
is
online,
but
there's
the
link
is
not
working
bill
yeah.
So
it's
just
the
link
isn't
working.
F
If
you
want
I'll
email
y'all
a
copy
of
that,
it's
1819,
because
we're
still
in
1920
so
next
january
is
when
I'll
start
working
on
the
1920
fy
that
that
we're
sitting
in
right
now
that
we
got
three
days
left
in.
So
the
report
was
prepared
and
it
was
sent
by
certified
letter
to
the
mayor's
office
and
to
the
state
so
I'll
go
check
out
the
other.
If
it's
not
online,
though.
E
No
it's
online,
but
the
link
isn't
working.
Oh
okay,
all
right!
That
might
just
be
a
link
issue
or
might
be
a
me
issue
that
that's
possible
operator
error
can
happen
sometimes
anyway,
all
right.
So
I
I
have
my
marching
orders.
I
will
get
working
on
this
and
get
this
stuff
printed
and
out
to
bill.
Hopefully
you
guys
will
have
these
books
tomorrow
and
then
we'll
meet
up
next
week,
and
I
appreciate
you
guys
tonight
and
I
will
see
you
then
thank
you.