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A
B
Yes,
mr
gary
payton,
mr
jeffrey
jones
you're,
mr
david
mcgraw,
mr
hart,
graham
chair
here.
Yes,
francis
pawlowski,
here.
A
A
I
saw
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
went
to
the
downtown
event
mma
or
whatever
it
was
called
ufc
yeah.
There
was
a
lot
of
people
walking
around
on
saturday.
Now
we've
had
any
issues
before
after
didn't.
We.
C
D
Yeah
question:
for
you:
you
know
we
have
this
new
noise
ordinance
as
of
three
years
ago
and
being
a
downtown
resident.
I've
noticed
recently
that
the
low-volume
amplified
outdoor
music
that
is
allowed
for
the
bars
has
become
quite
loud
yesterday.
D
One
of
the
local
establishments
had
basically
was
the
thump
thump
thump
type
music,
that
you
could
hear
in
a
back
bedroom.
With
the
doors
closed
and
to
me,
that's
not
low
volume
amplified
music,
you
know
the
intent.
Was
you
get
a
guitar
player
and
he's
able
to
amplify
it
a
little
bit
on
their
patio,
but
I've
noticed
that
several
of
the
bars
have
gotten
louder
and
louder.
Now,
they're,
adding
they've
seen
their
competitors
out
of
outdoor
bands,
so
they're
adding
it.
So
it's
become
quite
noisy
on
sunday
afternoons.
C
D
And
they
went
and
at
least
got
one
of
them
to
tone
it
down
a
little
bit,
but
you
know
I
think
it's
gotten
to
the
stage
where
maybe
they
need
to
have
a
discussion
with
the
borrower.
Saying:
hey
you're
allowed
to
have
outdoor
music,
but
it
can't
be.
You
know,
night
club.
C
Saturday
and
sunday,
because
we
were
extremely
busy
and
we
had
pretty
much
everybody
in
working.
So
that's
saying
news
when
you
see
that
just
call
us
and
that
would
undocumented
move
forward.
D
You
know
I
saw
that
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we've
been
reluctant
to
call,
but
I
think
they've
kind
of
gotten
the
attitude.
Well,
no
one's
really
enforcing
that,
so
we
can
do
whatever
we
want
with
the
dance,
and
I
think
they
just
need
to
be
reminded
that
there
is
the
ordinance
and
it's
low
volume
and
it's
not
intended
to
be
heard.
Two
blocks
away.
Okay,.
A
A
E
A
Time
we
were
talking
about
having
the
fencing
that
went
around
construction
projects
and
we're
talking
about
having
uniform,
fencing
and
you're
going
to
meet
with
somebody
from
leather
work.
At
one
point,.
E
And
I
had
started
my
meetings
with
them,
but
we
didn't
take
it
anywhere.
There
was
because
at
that
point
bill
was
working
on
trying
to
get
some
of
the
landowners
to
do
their
own
fencing
around
there.
I
mean
to
improve
it.
Let's
put
it
that
way
and
they
did
do
that
around
the
pier
property,
but
it
hasn't
been
done
on
the
other
property.
That's
just
north
of
the
the
band
shell
and
but
nothing
more
has
been
done
because
phillip
was
taking
that
to
a
point
and
then
obviously
he
left.
E
So
it's
not
something.
That's
been
followed.
A
E
A
F
I
know
that
we
were
talking
about
the
property
south
property
that
we're
thinking
about
putting
up
for
sale.
I
know
we
were
talking
about
delaying
that
to
october,
but
we
were
smoothing
all
the
pieces
to
get
it
to
where
it
could
go
on
up
for
auction
or
so
whatever
we
choose.
We
may
be
steps
in
that
direction
that
we
need
to
build
up.
A
Okay,
new
business.
G
Trevor
hughes,
superintendent
parks
and
recreation,
as
you
guys
are
aware,
splash
pad,
is
one
of
our
big
attractions
at
sunshine
park
and
through
our
recent
park
survey,
we've
come
to
the
conclusion
that
the
community
would
like
shade
shelters
over
the
splash
pad
the
splash
pad
sits
out
in
the
sun
pretty
well.
The
concrete
gets
hot
on
the
kid's
feet.
You
know
the
splash
pad
does
not
cover
the
water
does
not
cover
the
whole
area,
so
the
area
outside
the
water
does
get
hot.
G
This
is
the
the
design
concept
we
currently
have
the
colors.
We
will
do
the
best
we
can
to
match.
What's
at
the
skate
park,
they
have
similar
sales.
Any
questions.
E
Good
afternoon
yeah,
just
I
read
all
of
the
documentation
you
sent
in,
and
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
little
bit
of
clarification
on
a
couple
of
items
number
one.
You
were
talking
about
the
amount
of
shade
to
to
cover
the
splash
pad
that
one
piece
that
sits
to
the
west
of
the
splash
pads
is
that
something
that's
really
needed.
When
I
looked
at
the.
G
G
Here
we
plan
on
installing,
underneath
that
back
edge
on
the
west
side
of
the
splashback
we
plan
on
installing
up
to
10
six
foot
benches.
That
was
one
of
the
biggest
complaints
the
parents
don't
have
anywhere
to
sit
while
their
kids
are
playing.
So
it.
G
E
G
E
Some
of
the
pines
in
that
area
would
have
to
be
removed
to
to
accommodate
that
one
segment,
and
this
is
something
if
we
approve
it
that
you
know
could
be
an
operational.
G
So
to
speak
in
four
to
six
weeks,
this
is
well
we
would
be
able
to.
If
this
is
approved,
we
will
put
in
the
requisition
tomorrow
and
we'll
get
a
po
and
then
it
will
be
at
the
contractors.
You
know
he'll
order
the
parts
and
then
once
the
parts
come
in,
so
I'm
thinking
six
to
eight
weeks,
yeah
they'll
be
going
to
go
to
council.
Oh,
we
would
have
to
go
to
council,
sorry,
it
will
be
on
there.
F
F
G
C
Well,
I
don't
want
to
say
we
haven't
had
a
problem
because
we
have
had
issues
pretty
much
in
our
whole
city.
It's
at
one
point
regarding
the
transits,
but
it's
not
as
big
a
problem
as
it
would
be
east
of
third
and
possibly
over
gonzales
as
well.
So
I.
F
Just
want
to
share
a
lot
of
this
as
we
do.
We
do
consider
that,
because
we
don't
want
that
area
to
turn
into
a
bathing
house
and
then
my
other
second
weather
question
has
to
do
with
the
warranty.
I
saw
that
it
has
a
two
year
warranty
on
it.
Did
they
give
us
projection
of
actual
true
life
of
these,
so
that
when
we
do
our
budgeting
going
forward,
we
can
budget
in
replacement
and
repair.
G
F
Francis,
I
would
like
to
approve
a
recommendation
to
approve
us
appropriating
6060.
A
F
G
G
G
So
this
resolution
requesting
the
replacement
of
the
existing
basketball
court,
the
only
slight
modification
is,
we
will
maybe
drift
it
slightly,
maybe
five
feet
to
the
south,
and
then
the
court
will
be
approximately
five
foot
shorter
than
the
existing
floor
and
that's
just
to
allow
more
green
space
and
then
at
a
later
date.
We
would
like
to
talk
pickleball
and
that
would
give
us
space
without
eating
up
our
green
space
on
that
front
lawn
and
be
able
to
fit
a
possible
pickleball
court,
but
we'll
bring
that
up
at
another.
F
Me
was
the
exclusion
part
of
this
contract,
I'm
talking
about
the
refill
tree,
removal
and
whatnot
with
you
losing
it.
Are
we
expecting
any
cost
for
that
extra
removal
of
said
dirt?
That's
not
included
in
this
budget
because
it
says
exclusions.
Is
it
busy
dirt.
G
F
G
H
G
E
E
G
E
G
B
G
G
There
are
some
adjustments
and
we
haven't
come
up
with
a
full
landscape
plan.
You
know,
if
you
look
between
the
actual
parks
and
rec
facility
and
the
basketball
court,
you
have
the
fence
and
there's
basically
a
bunch
of
landscape
that
you
can't
even
get
to
and
can't
maintain
well
we'd
like
to
come
up
with
a
plan
to
possibly
eliminate,
or
at
least
reduce
some
of
the
landscape.
G
There
maybe
possibly
bring
a
sidewalk
like
you
talked
about
to
gain
access
to
the
backside
of
it,
but
my
ultimate
thought
is
is
when
we,
when
we
redo
the
playground
to
come
in
and
have
a
re-landscaping
reimagining
of
all
of
it
at
that
time,
because
at
that
point
the
park
will
kind
of
be
finished
as
far
as
where
it
is
that
we
can
come
in
and
we
can
add
to
the
irrigation,
we
can
then
fix
the
irrigation.
That's
that's
been
capped
and
make
all
those
changes
at
that
point.
G
So
in
the
next
year
I
would,
I
would
love
to
see
the
entire
park
breathe
properly.
I
think
it
would
be.
You
know
a
great
addition
if
we
consider
that
area
up
there.
The
other
thing
was
benches
that
there
I
think
it
might
be
advantageous
to
have
a
couple
of
benches
located.
B
B
D
As
a
former
recreational
basketball
player,
I'd
be
concerned
about
shortening
that
quarter,
it's
not
a
very
big
quarter
and
five
feet
is
a
lot
when
you're
trying
to
either
get
a
couple.
Half
court
games
or
a
decent
full
court
game,
and
I'm
not
sure
I
see
the
benefit
of
adding
five
feet
of
grass
and
impairing
the
usual
usability
of
the
basketball
court.
G
The
the
existing
basketball
court
there
now
is
a
full
regulation,
size
score.
You
have
full
nba
three-point
lines:
half
port.
It
is
a
full
regulation
core.
What
we
were
open
to
is
by
by
shifting
at
five
feet
and
possibly
shrinking
at
five
feet.
Maybe
the
paint
lines
would
still
be
regulation,
just
maybe
behind
the
goals.
Maybe
the
pavement
doesn't
quite
go
as
far
that's
something
we
can
still
look
at,
but
it
would
be
an
effort.
You
know.
G
Pickleball
is
one
of
the
largest
growing
sports
in
the
nation
and
to
try
and
create
enough
space
where
we
could
fit
it
in
there
where
it
looks
like
it's
always
been
there
and
it
doesn't
look
like
it's
taking
out
all
of
our
green
space.
You
know,
that's
that's
one
of
the
efforts
in
doing
so,
but
we
can,
if
that's
something
where
we
want
to
keep
the
full
size
regulation
and
we'll
we
can
do
that.
D
Yeah
well,
well,
I
guess
there's
no
basketball,
league
or
anything
we're
running
by,
but
that
would
be
a
concern
whether
it's
really
necessary
to
shorten
it.
That
much,
because
that
that's
a
significant
shortening
of
the
court
and
well.
F
Not
being
a
basketball
person
only
using
the
court
to
play
house,
which
is
the
other
game
where
you
follow
each
other,
what
have
you?
I
don't
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
I
get
it.
I
know
that
cord
is
used
a
lot.
My
neighbors
use
it
a
lot
and
I
think
it
would
probably
make
a
big
difference,
but
it
could
take
it
to
make
a
big
difference,
so
I
personally
never
would
have
thought
of
that.
So
my
question
is
for
this
potential
addition
to
the
park.
F
G
The
degree
space
is
a
large
green
space
area,
but
not
when
you
start
looking
to
fill
it
into
with
pickleball
courts.
If
you
look
now
you
have
the
fire
station
and
then
there's
a
parking
area
between
the
fire
station
and
the
parks
and
rec
building,
and
that
parking
comes
out
into
that
green
space
and
kind
of
cuts
it
off.
G
But
if
we
were
to
avoid
the
parking
and
come
out
into
that
green
space,
that
I
just
don't
think
it's
something
that
that
that
would
be
supportive.
F
I
think
I
think
I
need
to
have
a
visual
like
a
scale
visual,
because
I
honestly
don't
have.
I
don't
have
the
ability
to
say.
Oh,
I
think
that
makes
sense
or
it
doesn't
without
seeing
that
and
that's
a
future
project
we're
talking
about.
But
if
we're
here
talking
about
just
replacing
the
court,
I
would
be
inclined
to
not
shrink
it
until
I
solve
that
concept
to
helping
picture
concepts.
F
Just
because
I
like
I
said
I
would
never
thought
I
was
just
set,
because
I
don't
use
the
course
so
at
five
feet
a
lot
for
one
thing,
but
maybe
not
for
another.
I
just
don't
know
without
saying
it.
D
Until
we
get
an
idea
where
the
pickleball
court
would
go
and
whether
there's
any
options
to
maybe
not
shorten
it
by
five
feet,
some
other
lesser
amount.
I
don't
know
this.
The
first
we've
heard
of
shortening
it
and
also
the
location
of
the
pickleball
and,
I
think,
sounds
like
they're
sort
of
mutually
interdependent.
D
So
I'd
like
to
get
some
more
information
on
what
the
design
would
look
like
for
both
of
these
when
they're
in
place.
I
don't
have.
A
A
problem
deferring
this
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
give
clear
direction
to
parks
and
rec,
so
you
want
to
see
pretty
much
an
overview
of
what
the
finnish.
B
E
Like
gary,
if
we
go
down
this
road,
would
it
be
possible
to
bring
to
us
the
whole
concept,
drawings,
budgets
and
everything
and
approve
it
both
pick
a
wall
and
basketball,
assuming
that
we
were
comfortable
with
it
all
I'll,
prove
it
at
the
next
meeting,
rather
than
deferring
pickleball
for
a
later
period
of
time?
Can
we
do
it
all
at
once
and
get
it
accomplished
just
to
get
this
thing
moving,
that's
a
question
to
to
the
board
here.
If
that's
acceptable
to
the.
A
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
that
if
they
can
bring
it
back
to
us
by
the
next
meeting.
If
you
can't
grant
us
by
the
next
meeting,
we
can
just
look
at
the
design
and
just
approve
the
basketball
and
then
the
rest.
Later
I
mean
what
what
I
don't
want
to
do
is
hold
all
the
rest
of
this
up
for
the
big
master,
the
big
master
project-
and
I
guess
my
question
to
you
is:
can
you
bring
it
all
next
time
or
do
you
just
want
to
bring
the
drawings
and
just
focus
on
the.
G
A
A
A
C
G
Were
some
two
questions
that
I
was
posed?
Can
the
playground
be
rebuilt,
as
is
with
aba
compliant
updates,
and
can
we
piggyback
the
contract
to
rebuild
the
playground,
and
the
short
answer
is
no
to
the
first
one:
can
we
rebuild
it
with
ada
compliant
updates?
No
a
couple
reasons.
One,
the
the
cra
rules
state
that
it
needs
to
be
new
cra
did
not
build
it
to
begin
with,
so
it
needs
to
be
reimagined.
It
needs
to
be
different,
so
no,
we
can't
build
it
exactly
the
same.
G
The
other
reason
is
making
it
ada
compliant
would
have
to
be
completely
re-engineered.
We'd
have
to
be
redrawn
and
re-send
out.
We
have
to
draw
new
plans
which
brings
me
to
the
next
one:
can
we
piggyback
a
contract
to
rebuild
it?
That
answer
is
no,
because
it
has
involves
professional
services
and
for
professional
services.
We
would
need
to
put
out
for
rfp.
G
So
these
are
the
three
things
we're
going
to
look
at
public
outreach
survey
results
rfps,
specs
timeline,
design
concepts,
so,
as
you
guys
saw,
we
did
our
first
initial
public
outreach
and
we
did
it
using
a
qr
code
and
an
online
questionnaire
and
really
the
420
responses
that
just
shows
to
me
that
that
the
qr
codes,
the
online
surveys,
give
us
quick,
useful
data.
You
know
this.
G
This
was
posted
for
10
days,
420
responses,
and
I
really
think
it's
a
great
way
for
us
to
do
public
outreach
and
really
bring
in
some
valuable
information
of
that.
What
we've
gotten
out
of
it
are.
The
top
responses
were
that
they
wanted
more
shape.
The
public
wanted
more
shade
over
the
playground,
also
by
shading
the
playground
structure.
All
the
manufacturers
said
it
would
extend
our
warranty
dramatically
for
the
floor
and
for
the
actual
structure,
number
two
was
visibility.
G
A
lot
of
people
didn't
like
the
way
the
current
design
lacked
some
visibility
in
it
and
number
three.
They
wanted
a
larger
footprint,
the
other.
The
other
comments
we
got
were
really
driven
towards
specific
play
structures
in
specific
play.
You
know
merry-go-round
or
saw
horses
or
whatever,
and
that's
something
that
when
we
get
in
later
on
to
the
design
phase
of
once
a
vendor
is
selected
and
once
we
have
kind
of
a
design
day,
that's
when
all
that
will
come
into
place
the
individual
pieces
oops.
G
So
the
next
one
is
our
our
bid
and
our
timeline.
We
currently
have
a
large
portion
of
the
bid
already
finished
we
plan
on
having
this
bit
out
and
to
our
procurement
to
our
legal
departments
within
the
next
10
to
14
days
from
there.
This
is
this
is
kind
of
our
basic
timeline
here
bid,
specs
and
advertised
bids.
We
think
we
have
that
month
of
may
we
come
in
and
add
the
bid,
solicitation
and
vendor
selection.
G
That
area
is
three
months
long,
because
during
the
vendor
selection,
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
put
it
out
for
rfp
we're
going
to
have
a
committee
come
in
and
we're
going
to
evaluate
all
of
them
we're
going
to
get
it
down
to
three
vendors.
Once
we
get
to
three
vendors,
we
will
come
in
and
have
them
draw
us
up
kind
of
their
plans
and
kind
of
hear
us
out
and
we'll
select
the
final
vendor
from
there
and
then
it'll
come
for
for
your
council's
approval
and
then
equipment
lead
time
and
construction.
G
G
So
design
concepts
our
goal
in
the
in
the
rfp
is
to
keep
the
same
history.
The
same
feel
the
same
design.
So
this
is
a
playground,
that's
very
similar
to
ours.
So
on
the
left,
this
would
be
considered
generation
one
what
we
have-
and
this
is
the
generation
two,
the
one
advantage
of
getting
away
from
the
wood
and
going
to
the
composites
is
you're
allowed
to
bring
in
a
lot
of
different
colors.
G
It
enables
kids,
with
with
visual
disabilities,
help
one
of
the
things
that
really
helps
with
all
these
colors
like
this
floor,
so
that
area
being
a
different
color
and
that's
kind
of
a
primary
traffic
area.
We'd
only
have
to
replace
those
small
areas
and
just
think
it'd
be
something
that
would
be
really
incredible.
G
G
The
new
the
new
theme,
so
with
all
the
vendors
that
we've
talked
to
the
the
visual,
has
kind
of
been
a
a
common
theme
issue
with
a
lot
of
the
older
parts
like
we
have,
and
so
the
new
ones
that
the
boards
are
further
apart.
The
gaps
are
more
space.
It
provides
for
for
more
visibility
through
those
areas.
B
G
Had
to
look,
I
don't
remember
exactly
which
part,
but
it
was
by
the
same
builder
that
that
built
ours.
A
G
G
No,
that
says,
eureka,
so
that's
just
it's
from
the
builder
that
built
ours
and
then
that's
from
a
builder
that
rebuilt
the
similar
design.
But
no,
this
is
not
our
parking
and
neither
this
one's
not
our
park
as
well.
This
is
another
park
I
believe
up
north
somewhere
and
that's
what
they
turned
it
into.
These
are
the
same
structures,
one
of
the
advantages
of
the
wood
structure.
A
A
G
G
Okay,
you
know
the
the
heat
of
the
wood
is
not
the
temperature
of
this
has
not
has
not
been
brought
up
to
us
as
an
issue.
B
D
E
A
quick
question
in
that
this
is
really
going
to
be
a
design
built
kind
of
a
arrangement
of
what
you're.
Looking
at
once
you
get
down
to
the
three
vendors.
Yes,
then
you're
going
to
have
each
one
of
the
three
vendors
do
a
design
and
obviously
they'll
price
it,
and
then,
on
that
basis,
we'll
turn
around
and
make
a
decision
on
who
the
appropriate
vendor
is.
Yes,
so
we'll
have
a
chance
to
look
at
three
different
options
of
schemes
and
things
ultimately.
G
E
We'll
give
them
some
initial
direction
as
to
you
know
what
we
would
like
to
see
and
what
remnants
of
the
old
should
be
retained
and
so
forth
to
maintain
the
historical
characters
and
so
forth.
Yes,
thank
you.
G
G
The
new
fencing
on
the
basketball
area
we've
covered
that
ada
ada,
sidewalks
and
paths.
Those
are
areas
where
we're
connecting
there's
a
lot
of
the
cover
picnic
areas
that
that
are
do
not
have
ada
sidewalks
to
it.
So
those
are
actually
prices.
Do
we
have
the
po?
Yet
we
do
yeah
we're
we're
in
the
process
of
getting
the
fields.
Those
should
be
done
very
quickly.
The
park,
lighting
and
replacements.
You
see
we
put
in
a
number
of
60
000.
G
B
G
Volleyball
stand
replacement,
leveling,
of
course,
that
number
is
is
quite
different.
There's
a
couple
things
that
we've
added
to
it
since
our
our
very
beginning.
One
is
right
now,
when
we
have
northeastern
it
blows
all
the
sand
onto
the
artificial
field,
and
so
what
that
is,
is
it's
pretty
much
a
it's
a
synthetic
material,
it's
basically
a
little
wing
wall,
that'll
come
and
separate
and
block
some
of
that
sand.
G
Also,
when
looking
at
the
area
from
the
sand
being
blown
for
years,
it
built
up
these
huge
humps
between
the
fields.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
actually
going
to
level
it
from
the
artificial
field,
all
the
way
out
to
the
sidewalk
and
kind
of
start
over
so
it'll
be
all
new
side,
all
new
stand
and
those
are
items
coming
up.
The
the
pip
safety
fall
zones
around
exercise
stations.
G
We
were
we
undershot
that
one
we
measured
the
square
footage.
You
know
when
we
went
back
to
get
our
quotes,
we
saw
that
they
really
needed
to
be
bigger
than
what
we
originally
thought
park
benches.
We
actually
have
ordered
16
new
park
benches
they're
on
their
way
in
we
planned
on
putting
10
around
in
in
the
splash
pad
area,
and
then
six
other
benches
will
be
selected
throughout
the
park
replacement
of
the
shower
towers.
G
G
A
I
got
a
comment:
it's
I
guess,
just
maybe
a
missed
opportunity.
A
The
park
benches
it'd
be
great.
If
you
had
like
some
sort
of
naming
opportunity
for
those
things,
you
know,
because
you
know
how
families
like
to
put
a
grandmother
died
and
wants
to
put
anyone
there.
Just
a
family
name
that
sort
of
stuff-
and
I
mean
it-
would
it'd
actually
be
great.
G
Purpose
is
yes,
so
so
we
actually
do
have
a
tree
and
bench
dedication
program
the
marketing
hasn't
taken
off
yet
actually
park.
Staff
will
be
presenting
it
to
to
council
this
evening
to
make
some
amendments
to
it.
But
we
have
exactly
that
where
somebody
can
adopt
the
bench
and
we'll
engrave
the
back
of
it
and
put
a
plaque
into
it,
where
that
can
be
a
memorial
program.
G
A
J
Just
want
to
clarify
something:
we
have
this
memorial
park
program
that
the
cra
districts
are
not
being
included,
because
if
the
cra
doesn't
pay
to
place
the
bench
there,
they
cannot
maintain
it
in
the
future.
So
that's
why
that
goes
over,
like
intentionally
being
excluded
from
our
memorial
bench
program.
Well,
come
to.
J
Microsoft,
to
kind
of
give
a
little
bit
more
information
of
the
memorial
bench
program.
We
are
not
including
the
cra
districts
in
the
program,
because
the
cra
must
pay
for
the
bench
in
order
to
maintain
it
going
forward.
So
if
we
were
to
place
a
memorial
benchmark
this
year,
could
not
maintain
it
in
the
future.
A
Well,
the
way,
the
way
I
understand
these
programs
well,
the
way
they
normally
work.
You'll
sell
the
bench
to
somebody
for
five
hundred
dollars.
The
bench
cost
200,
the
other
300
go
to
what
have
you
and
so
in
this
case,
we're
already
paying
for
the
benches,
so
the
entire
500
could
go
for
whatever
that
nonprofit
is
they're.
Just
their
job
is
just
out
there
to
sell
the
naming
right.
I
mean
we're
still
gonna
pay
for
the
benches,
I
mean
so
what
I'm
envisioning,
it's
still
our
bench.
It's
still
long
paid
in
it.
A
J
So
I
think
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
in
terms
of
the
accounting
as
we've
designed
the
program,
there's
no
way
for
us
to
differentiate,
because
then,
if
we
say
for
that,
we
paid
it
all
and
that
the
the
funds
collected
from
the
nonprofit
are
a
donation.
Then
that
puts
the
city
and
the
cra
in
the
position
of
donating
funds
to
other
agencies
so
because
it
just
overly
complicated
the
accounting
for
it.
So
that's
why
we
identified
other
areas
in
the
city
where
we
could
do
the
memorial
bench
program.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
fine,
we
you're
going
to
do
that
in
other
areas.
But
can
we
in
the
cra
do
something
different,
because
we
what
I'm
envisioning-
and
I
can't
speak
for
my
entire
grower
but
you'll
get
those
guys
in
here
and
whatever
that
non-profit
is
they
handle
all
that
stuff?
And
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
you
can
build
a
bench
and
they
can
go
back
and
hire
somebody
to
put
the
black
on
the
back.
A
A
That
I
mean,
because
I
know,
there's
other
crs
out
there-
that
do
that
sort
of
thing
only
specifically
down
in
delray.
There
was
an
old
school,
the
sierra
bought
it
and
gave
the
entire
operation
of
the
school
to
one
of
the
nonprofits
down
there
and
all
the
money
that
nonprofit
makes
they
get
to
keep
that
money.
But
it's
still
all
funded
through
the
cra.
A
A
J
F
I
personally
want
to
know.
I
personally
want
to
know,
because
I
have
been
talking
about
memorial
park
if
we
purchase
land
and
if
we
can't
utilize
the
memorial
platform
that
I
was
referencing
donald
does.
Plan
for
memorial
park
made
no
sense,
so
I
personally
agree
with
art.
We
really
should
be.
We
need
to
know
if
we
can
even
utilize
that
program.
E
Yes,
sir,
just
observation,
I
appreciate
what
you
put
together
here
starts
to
really
get
our
arms
around
everything
that
needs
to
be
done
out
there,
but
one
concern
that
I
had
after
being
out
there
this
weekend
it
was
packed
and
I
think
they
had
a
flag
football
game
or
something
on
the
multi-use
field.
E
E
And
then
the
next
question
is:
where
is
it?
Where
can
you
place
it
that
or
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
enforcing
and
making
sure
that
people
are
not
partnering,
because
we're
going
to
spend
a
bunch
of
money
on
landscaping
and
other
improvements,
if
they're
not
destroying
what
we're
you
know
we're
planning
on
putting
in,
but
this
weekend
was
a
good
example
of
that,
because
there
were
as
many
as
8
vehicles
parked
up
over
the
curb.
You
know
in
plantar
areas,
almost
up
by
the
picnic,
shelters
and
things
to
that
extent.
E
And
one
of
the
thoughts
I
had,
I
don't
know
whether
this
was
possible
or
not,
but
you
know
a
long
constant
beyond
on
avenue,
which
is
the
western
excuse
me
the
southern
side
of
the
park.
You
know
there
were
cars
parked
there
on
the
grass
strip.
Question
is:
do
we
turn
some
of
that
into
more
true
parking?
E
A
I
meant
to
say
this
when
we
talk
about
the
park
earlier.
I
love
the
idea
of
the
survey.
I
thought
you
guys
had
a
fantastic
job
and
then
especially
having
those
responses
stand
as
quickly
as
that
was.
I
thought
it
was
pretty
innovative,
any
other
questions
or
comments
about
the
budget,
and
I
like
the
timeline,
so
we
have
an
idea
of
when
things
are
going
to
fall.
That's
kind
of
thing
I've
been
looking
for
for
a
while,
and
I
think
that
that
keeps
us
all
honest.
A
So
next
march
we're
going
to
be
looking
for
you,
okay,
okay,
item
number
b,
ashley
come
on
down.
J
Okay,
so
give
you
a
quick
of
the
budget
process,
so
the
departments
in
the
city
have
been
meeting
in
the
months
of
february
and
march,
to
put
together
the
cip
plan
to
find
your
cfp
plan
and
now
they're
working
on
their
offering
budget.
B
J
J
So
the
other
question
that
I
was
asked
to
kind
of
discuss
with
y'all
is
the
additional
recommendations
that
you
would
want
from
the
board
that
I
would
need
from
the
board.
So
I
would
say
any
feedback
that
the
board
would
have
would
like
to
get
incorporated
into
the
budget
document
so
that
we
can
begin
compiling
a
citywide
request.
I
understand
that
you're
still
working
on
new
project
ideas
for
both
the
downtown
and
south
end.
We
can
program
them
for
the
2023
budget
year.
J
A
F
E
You
know,
I
understand
the
desire
to
put
everything
into
the
22
budget
and
when,
for
all
of
that,
the
question
I
just
have
is
that
there's
some
studies
and
things
that
public
works
is
still
involved
in
and
will
be
doing,
I
think
until
the
end
of
the
year.
So
we
really
won't
know
all
the
projects,
particularly
for
the
south
end.
That
would
need
to
be
done,
so
some
of
that
would
automatically
slide
into
the
23
budget
rather.
J
J
Yes,
it
can
become
part
of
that
conversation
when
we
did
the
modeling
for
their
election
in
the
south
end.
We
took
the
absolute
worst
case
scenario
that
was
known
to
us
and
we
then
doubled
that
number
and
still
came
back
with
kind
of
some
confidence
that
we
could
reduce
this
authentic
funding
from
50
and
still
achieve
the
mission.
J
Council
voted
on
it.
They
wanted
to
give
the
agency
some
time
to
kind
of
do
your
planning
to
see
if
you
wanted
to
make
any
plan
amendments,
and
so
they
wanted
you
to
complete
that
process
before
they
wanted
the
proposal
to
come
back
before
council.
So,
since
you
guys
are
still
having
that
conversation,
so.
J
Not
this
upcoming
budget
here
so
in
the
upcoming
budget
year,
we
are
projecting
the
revenues
at
50.
That
doesn't
mean
it's
a
formal
agreement.
It
means
that,
based
on
the
spending
that
we
have
we're,
anticipating
having
a
surplus
in
the
south
and
for
another
year,
and
so
we
would
do
situationally
one
year
for
another
return
clearly
so
so
we
are
anticipating
for
the
2020
2022
budget
that
we
would
still
have
a
50
reduction.
It
would
be
a
one-time
surplus
without
we
don't
need
to
have
a
formal
agreement
for
this.
J
J
J
The
other
question
that
we've
asked
is
the
status
of
the
additional
maintenance
funding
by
the
word
trevor
just
went
through
the
south
end
and
that
pretty
much
utilizes
the
additional
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
the
agency
placed
in
the
22
budget.
So
we
have
that
program
in
the
downtown
they're,
still
moving
forward
with
the
paper
cleaning
and
landscaping.
So
the
additional
funding
that's
been
set
aside
in
the
downtime.
I
As
it
relates
to
your
issue
of
property,
we
have
sent
a
request
for
a
legal
opinion
to
bill
shepard
and
his
firm
waiting
for
that
to
come
back
and
that
will
provide
us
guidance
that
way
as
in
regards
to
the
development
of
some
of
those
lands.
As
a
part,
I
do
know
that
they're
in
conversations
with
the
administration
on
doing
just
that,
in
addition
to
having
memorial
park
on
the
other
side
of
that
lane
as
well,
so
there's
initial
thoughts
around
that
concept
through
that
the
others
about
buying
the
lands.
J
J
At
the
end
of
any
fiscal
year,
we
have
had
more
dollars
in
the
trust
fund
at
the
end
of
crp
at
the
end
of
the
year
than
we
have
in
our
cnp
program,
so
to
to
develop
a
two
and
a
half
million
dollar
project
that
will
execute
in
fiscal
22
at
this
point
seems
unlikely,
and
so,
if
that
project
is
developed
in
23,
we
can
make
the
adjustment
in
23
or
24.25.
J
F
F
K
Department
I
reached
out
to
beach's
energy
to
get
an
update
on
the
downtown
lighting
plan
implementation.
K
You
guys
are
probably
aware
we
just
passed
an
ordinance
last
year
for
our
turbo
lighting
and
it's
pretty
stringent,
so
it
required
them
to
basically
go
back
and
redo
the
specs
to
make
sure
that
we
were
in
compliance
with
every
coordinates
so
right
now,
they're
finalizing
all
the
specs
specifically
for
the
end
zone,
lighting
they're,
focusing
on
those
first
so
we'll
get
that
done,
make
sure
we're
in
compliance
with
turtle
lighting
season
which
started
starts
may
1st
through
october,
so
that.
H
H
K
Lights
will
be
focused
in
the
downtown
area,
specifically
and
then
branch
out
to
the
south
end.
So
probably
the
focus
will
be
on
replacing
current
light
fixtures
that
are
there
before
installing
new
ones,
because
that
would
require
some
new
electrical
conduit
and
so
forth.
So
some
of
the
specs
that
you
guys
have
seen
in
the
lighting
plan
might
change
a
little
bit
based
on
where
we
have
to
provide
energy
to
those
new
lighting
fixtures.
So
I
will
stay
in
touch
with
beach's
energy
as
they
progress
on
this
project
and
provide
updates
to
you
guys.
F
I
actually
just
kind
of
answered
it.
Sorry
answer
the
question,
so
we
are
looking
at
fixing
and
replacing
it's
not
going
to
be
because
I'm
assuming
the
lighting
thing
you
guys
provided
us,
obviously
is
going
to
change
based
off
whatever
they
discover
it.
Could
yes,
because.
F
K
Change
but
the
focus
again
will
be
on
the
street
ends
for
the
turtle
lighting
to
make
sure
those
are
compliant,
since
our
ordinance
is
pretty
stringent
and
then
going
towards
replacing
the
lights
that
are
already
there
as
the
next
priority.
So
again,
as
we
move
forward,
we'll
have
more
details
on
you
know
when.
F
Does
that
being
coordinated
with
all
that
work,
that's
being
done
on
our
ends?
Our
street
ends
because
we're
talking
about
having
to
read
reparking
a
lot
and
rewind
and
redesign
those
areas?
Is
that
being
incorporated
with
that
or
are
we
looking
at
report
fix
what
we
currently
have
to
make
it
compliant
and
tear
it
all
out
for
the
ends
and
then
putting
in
new
stuff
again?
Is
that
what
we're
looking
at
for
timeline?
I'm.
K
F
My
big
concern
is
that
we're
just
going
to
keep
tearing
up
stuff
we
do
and
my
my
question
is:
I
know
we
have
the
new
ordinance,
but
if
we
see
that,
if
we
delay
fixing,
even
though
it's
turtle
season
how
much
trouble
we
get
into,
if
we
can
coordinate
it
with
doing
a
project,
so
it's
not
do
tear
up
do
again.
How
much
trouble
do
we
get
in?
You
know.
K
So,
like
I
said,
we're
getting
the
final
specs
so
that
we
can
have
the
right
lights
in
the
right
locations
based
on
the
ornaments
they've
been.
You
know.
Basically,
we've
gotten
the
thumbs
up
green
light
from
the
beach's
sea
turtle
patrol
on
the
actual
specs
for
the
lights,
the
concept
for
the
lights
that
they
did
so.
I
Conversations
about
this
in
the
past
the
beaches
luxury-
and
this
is
from
a
report
that
bill
made
some
months
ago-
that
beaches
electric
has
already
tested
the
light
fixture
at
the
street
ends
so
that
it
is
turtle
compliant.
So
assuming
that's
the
case,
then,
hopefully
they'll
be
able
to
move
a
little
bit
quicker,
hopefully
contouring
to
go
ahead
and
get
that
done.
D
Okay,
a
favor,
you
know
we
got
the
implementation
plan
booklets
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
they
were
helpful
but-
and
I
apologize
if
it's
in
there
somewhere,
but
I
couldn't
find
it,
but
they
made
all
these
descriptions
of
different
types
of
fixtures
as
well.
You
know
we'll
put
this
type
fixture
here
and
that
tight
fixture
there
and
I
have
no
idea
what
those
are.
Is
there
some
sort
of
legend
or
something.
K
D
There
and
a
different
type
of
fixtures,
but
you
know
layman,
don't
know
what
those
fixtures
are.
K
And
I
think
that
that's
what
they're
trying
to
get
that's
what
they're
working
on
getting
now
is
the
exact
because
they're
basically
custom
for
us
the
way
I
understand
it
so
I'll
reach
back
out
to
beach's
energy
and
when
they
have
those
specs
that
way,
we
can
share
them
with
you
guys.
You
guys
will
see
what
they're
going
to
look
like.
E
I
guess
part
of
the
question
was
just
answered.
What
we're
really
talking
about
is
just
the
lighting
fixtures
in
the
end
zones
to
take
care
of
the
criteria
for
the
the
turtles,
but
what
about
the
rest
of
the
downtime?
And
we
I
know,
we've
got
the
documents
that
define
the
design
for
the
rest
of
the
downtown
area.
I
just
along
the
same
lines.
B
K
H
Mr
marsh
come
on
down,
give
us
some
ideas
to
start
brainstorming
with
real
baby
when
you're
live.
H
H
We
still
have
the
cliff
shepard
document
still
hanging
out
there
in
limbo,
which
talks
about
the
1987
plan
and
the
2007
plan.
What
items
we
should
be,
including
and
excluding
as
we
talk
about
our
future
downtown
and
that
has
yet
has
not
yet
been
taken.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
this
particular
group
is
going
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
projects
relevant
to
the
plan
when
we
don't
have
a
plan
and
when
we
look
at
those
two
documents,
the
87
plan
2007
plan
we're
talking
about
things
like
the
latham
park,
plaza
the
pier
park
plaza.
H
Those
are
two
major
infrastructure
within
those
documents.
We're
talking
about
garages,
we're
talking
about
residential
villages,
we're
talking
about
the
boardwalk
area,
we're
talking
about
lathan
park
plaza
and
what
kind
of
landscaping
we
want
around
our
downtown.
So,
there's
a
lot
of
things
within
the
components
of
those
two
plans
which
this
group
has
yet
to
define.
H
I
still
think
that's
a
good
suggestion,
so
I
hope
moving
forward,
that
we
look
at
it
from
a
more
comprehensive
view
instead
of
piecemealing
and
saying
well,
we'll
take
a
little
piece
of
this
and
put
money
to
it.
A
little
piece
of
that.
What
does
the
whole
picture
look
like
and
then
I
think
you
can
put
together
the
projects
that
support
it.
I
do
think
it
will
take
a
little
bit
more
time,
but
I
do
think
it's
worthwhile.
I
We
have
this.
We
need
to
go
back
and
look
at
it
and
find
it,
as
was
just
stated
at
the
same
time,
other
things
that
we
might
need
to
be
thinking
about,
as
it
relates
to
that
in
this
document.
It
talks
about
parking
projects
in
the
residential
villages
and
labor
class,
where
they
should
be
in
a
timeline
to
be
accomplished.
So
I
do
want
to
bring
that
to
everyone's
mind
again.
I
don't
know
that
we
have
any.
I
F
B
F
Of
options
to
utilize
what
we
currently
have
to
make
capital
improvements
and
make
a
generalized
idea
or
strategy
for
us
to
implement,
said
plan
or
we
need
to
as
the
group
decide
if
we
want
to
amend
it
and
then
send
it
to
council
for
them
to
then
add
their
points
to
it,
to
give
us
a
whole
new
plan,
that's
my
understanding
of
it.
So
I
think
before
we
even
move
forward
with
either
one
of
those
options
we
have
to
decide.
If
what
we
currently
have
is
something
we
still
want
or
not.
F
F
We
literally
did
sections
of
the
area
and
discussed
sections
of
the
area,
and
then
gary
you
have
his
list
and
everybody
else
chimed
in
and
exactly
we
want
to
do
it
by
corridors
this
time
we're
going
to
see
what
we
currently
have
and
then,
if
we
all
agree
with
something
we
want
to
address.
So
how
do
you
guys
want
to
go
about
it.
A
We
know
where
things
are
from
6th
avenue
north
heading
south,
but
we
haven't
really
talked
about
600
north
heading
north
because
I
believe
we
go
as
far
north
as
ninth
avenue
north
and
as
far
south
as
13th
avenue
south.
Is
that
correct?
I
mean
so
there's
lots
of
opportunities
there.
So,
let's
just
talk
a
little
bit
if
anybody's
got
any
ideas
or
bring
up
the
conversation
up,
north
or
sixth
avenue
north,
we
know
we
have
the
dolphin
plaza
project,
that's
going
on
there.
A
A
A
Inside
the
kitchen,
that's
just
north
of
margaritaville
now
have
we
given
any
thought
at
all,
trying
to
tie
that
because
that's
the
end
of
our
our
northern
northern
boundary?
I
know
we've
pretty
much
tied
margaritaville
in
because
they've
extended
the
sidewalk
out
that
took
away
the
bike
lane
and
basically
extended
the
bike
corridor.
All
the
way
down
to
7th
avenue
north
that
we
even
already
thought
about
it
sitting
there
by
quarter
down
the
8th
avenue
north,
because
that's
pretty
much
the
last
piece
of.
F
Especially
as
we're
supposed
to
be
doing
biking
parking
like
parking
plans
as
well,
how
are
we
going
to
do
this
kind
of
before
we
get
to
it?
Because
when
we're
in
a
workshop,
we
can
interrupt
each
other,
but
up
here
call
button.
Yes,.
A
So
we
added
that
to
the
list:
did
anybody
else?
Jeff?
Did
anybody
have
any
ideas,
and
I
I
just
want
to
start
a
conversation
as
we
wait
for
heaven
to
come
back
with
this
stuff,
but
anything
more
with
a
six
heading.
Just.
D
A
D
Yes,
just
one
more
idea
on
the
in
this,
I
guess
covers
the
whole
district,
but
there
is,
I
think,
a
piece
of
property
for
sale
in
that
area.
We're
talking
about
north
of
67
north,
and
this
goes
to
do.
We
want
to
ever
explore
buying
up
some
of
the
property,
that's
for
sale,
so
we're
in
control
of
what
goes
in
there
as
far
as
reselling
it
to
a
developer.
D
I
believe
I
think,
that's
what
it
is.
It's
on
2nd
avenue
2nd
street,
but
just
that's
more
of
a
general
question
if
the
properties
do
come
up
for
sale.
Is
that
something
we
ever
want
to
consider
to
be
able
to
have
some
more
element
of
control
over
what
ultimately
happens
with
the
property.
A
A
Myself,
I'm
I
wouldn't
be
excited
about
jumping
on
a
piece
of
residential
property
and
holding
it
for
future
use
unless
we
have
an
idea
of
what
we
want
to
use
for
future
use,
I
mean
if
it's
something
that's
and
I
don't
know
profit
you
talk
about
if
it's
something
that's
just
invited
and
be
better
off,
just
torn
down
and
just
leave
vacant
until
we
have
to
do
with
it.
That
may
be
a
different
story,
but
if
it's
something
that
someone's
living
there
now
something.
D
Suitable
for
office-
or
I
think
it
may
even
be
an
office
now
so
it's
being
marketed
as
a
commercial
or
office
project.
That's
the
place
just.
D
It's
right.
D
But
I
guess
it's
more
of
just
a
global
question:
do
we
ever
want
to
get
involved
in
you
know,
buying
up
property
if
we
have
funds
available
to
have
a
more
higher
degree
of
involvement
in
what
that
property
becomes.
D
Market
and
buy
it,
but
just
just
to
give
an
example:
you
know
everybody,
you
know
a
lot
of
the
spring
hill,
suites
property.
Well,
people
saying
well
that
was
supposed
to
be
something
different
under
our
plan,
but
then
the
developer
decided
to
make
a
hotel
out
of
it
and
that
upset
a
number
of
people.
Well,
that's
an
example
of
we
didn't
have
any
control
of
what
happened
to
that
property
it
fit.
You
know
the
comprehensive
planner
development
code,
so
it's
a
hotel.
D
You
know,
we've
got
a
number
of
vacant
blocks
around
and
some
properties
that
occasionally
come
up
for
sale
and
is
that
something
that
we
should
explore
as
a
policy?
Member
of
is
this
something
that
we
could
acquire
and
have
an
element
of
control
to
make
sure
it's
consistent
with
our
plans.
I'm
just
tossing
that
out
as
a.
A
Global
query
I
this
is
just
me
personally,
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
having
a
conversation.
I
really
don't
want
to
get
into.
I
mean
if
I
remember
the
property
to
piece
of
property
correctly.
It
looks
like
a
zombie
martial
looks
like
you
put
somebody's
legal
office
in
there
or
whatever.
What
have
you
and
I
mean
I
don't-
have
a
problem
with
anybody.
The
free
market
wants
to
come
in
there
now
as
we
as
a
board
right
now,
I'm
only
just
one
of
the
five
but
one
of
the
five
votes.
A
E
There's
an
old
car
wash
down
there,
it's
been
pretty
much
torn
apart
and
it's
pretty
decimated
at
the
moment,
and
I
think
it
has
a
for
at
least
sign
out
of
a
for
sale
sign
on
it.
You
know
that's
one
of
those
things
that
would
be
worthwhile
if
we
wanted
to
purchase
it
and
at
least
tear
it
down
and
do
something
a
little
bit
nicer.
There
just
make
it
a
green
space,
and
so
we
can
find
a
reasonable
owner
tenant
for
that
property.
E
But
right
now
it's
pretty
ugly
looking
the
way
it's
sitting
there,
because
they
torn
all
the
equipment
out
of
the
wash
bays
and
stuff
like
that,
and
it's
I
think
that
code
enforcement
might
have
a
few
comments
about
it.
Based
on
what
I
see,
but
it's
it's
one
of
it's
another
example.
I
think
of
what
jeff
is
thinking
about
too.
A
Now
I
don't
want
to
talk
about
him,
but
I
think
there's
a
plan
for
that
and
I
can't
know
where
I
saw
and
I
was
going
to
say
it's
probably
the
newspaper
or
something
that
went
out.
It
wasn't
anything
I
saw
within
these
four
walls,
but
that
it's
also
a
great
idea.
I
mean
whenever
you
guys
want
to
talk
about
it
or
bring
it
up
or
move
forward
with
it.
A
I
I'd
use
the
word
optimistic,
but
explore
land
acquisition
to
meet
redevelopment
objective
builders.
Something
like
that,
because
I
like
what
you
said.
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
simply
going
out
and
start
buying
property
soon,
as
it
comes
up
available
because
we
don't
want
to
compete
in
the
open
market.
But
if
there's
something
out
there,
based
on
the
plans
that
are
here
for
downtown,
where
there
might
be
a
key
acquisition
to
make
that
occur
and
that's
something
that
can
be
explored
called
key
property
acquisition
opportunities.
F
Francis,
so
we
judged
two
different
properties
and
I
was
trying
to
coordinate
because
the
way
my
brain
works
the
way
my
brain
works
is
we
focus
on
an
area
and
an
objective
of
an
area,
and
then
we
stay
on
that
until
we
pass
it
out.
F
F
So,
just
in
that
aspect,
I'm
looking
at
that
one
property,
if
I'm
looking
at
it
right
like
there's
one
bullet
point
in
the
retail
corridor,
which
has
encouraged
the
expansion
of
casual
arena
to
help
with
the
historical
site
starting
talking
about
how
we
could
utilize
it
for
additional
parking
or
making
it
to
where
it
could
be
multi-use
property
development.
Okay,
so
then
could
that
lot
be
used
for
those?
Yes,
because
it's
in
that
corridor,
but
what
how
big
is
it?
And
how
could
we
make
it
encourage
other
development
to
be
like
that
in
that.
F
J
B
B
A
A
I
guess
you
call
them
furniture
shops
or
everything,
that's
just
off
the
beach
blog
right
here
and
it's
actually
kind
of
cool
if
they
just
go
back
and
start
walking
around
that
area,
and
so
my
thought
is,
how
do
you
tie
that
into
what's
going
on
downtown
because
it's
going
across
the
boulevard
tends
to
be
the
no
man's
own
and
nobody
really
goes
that
way.
Unless
maybe
you're
going
to
do
a
scrap
check-
and
you
know,
do
we
talk
about
pouring
in
like
extended
walkways?
A
You
know
you
put
in
a
five
foot,
six
foot
sidewalk
that
goes
past.
All
these
little
shops
are
up
to
because
the
shop's
already
there
you
know
just
kind
of
what
you
were
saying.
If
you
find
the
sidewalks,
if
you
put
some
landscaping
out
there,
you
may
encourage
other
vendors.
Other
retail
people
that
want
to
put
you
know,
take
some
of
those
old
buildings
that
may
be
falling
down
and
putting
in
another
type
of
shop.
A
And
that
kind
of
time
you
know
make
it
separate
or
make
it
part
of
that.
However,
you
want
to
do
it,
it
can
be
a
destination
point.
I
mean
I
thought
it
was
a
shame
that
we
just
had
the
ugly
muffin
tree
closed
down,
because
most
people
didn't
even
know
where
it
was,
and
you
know,
and
that's
just
that's
what
was
hidden
jewels
that
was
out
there
and
if
you
had
a
way
for
people
to
get
there,
people
will
find
it.
I
I
think
it
changes
a
lot
of
things.
I
I
F
Something
to
talk
about
francis,
so
I
would
further
that
discussion,
or
maybe
just
stumble
into
that
topic
about
how
we
should
as
a
whole,
talk
about
accessibility
and
to
certain
sectors
like
certain
areas
like
you
said,
and
how
we
do
that
like.
If
we
have
to
purchase
property
to
do
so
or
we
have
to
find
out
what
we
are
about
to
do
and
if
it's
already
part
of
the
city
council's
communication
plan.
If
it's
already
part
of
it,
we
should
be
able
to
think
back
at
what.
I
F
All
of
us
can
say
what
we
want
downtown
to
be
everybody
in
this
room
who
tells
what
they
think
that
that
should
be
absolutely
really
good.
It's
just
a
matter
of
how
do
we
encourage
counsel
to
see
that
these
are
the
zones
that
you
guys
already
kept
in
our
plan?
These
are
the
pictures
within
the
zones
and
here's
the
definition
of
those
zones
may
your
day
and
does
your
plan
fit
with
ours,
if
not,
who
bends
to
whomever?
F
A
Well
areas
I
was
talking
about
just
south
of
here,
you
gotta,
remember
those
people
are
still
part
of
the
cra.
Those
people
should
be
realizing
some
of
the
benefits
of
being
part
of
the
cia
and
part
of
that
is
making
them
like
disney
world.
You
know
making
the
silence
work
a
little
bit
better.
Making
the
landscape
look
a
little
bit
better
tying
into
all
this
stuff,
because
you
have
part
of
the
property
dollars
that
are
not
going
back
across
the
intercoastal
are
staying
here
and
it's
supposed
to
be
to
help
them
look
better.
I
Yes,
sir,
if
you
wish
what
you
just
said
about
the
disney
world
concept,
it
could
be
in
terms
of
brainstorming
session
that
we
define
what
that
really
means
in
everyone's
mind,
because
that's
an
important
item
for
us
to
think
about.
I
know
that
trevor
and
jason
others
are
playing
additional
landscaping
work.
We've
got
some
conversations
about
that,
but
what
does
that
mean
in
your
minds
and
that
would
be
very
helpful
guidances
from
this
process
as
well,
we've
said
it.
What
does
it
mean.
I
D
Property
owners
to
meet
our
vision
for
how
the
property
should
look,
because
we
can
have
our
stuff
look
very
nice
and
then
be
right
next
to
an
unkempt,
unmaintained
private
property,
and
so
we
need
I,
you
know.
I
mentioned
this
and
talked
about
it
before,
but
we
need
to
have
some
sort
of
you
know:
interaction
or
incentives
or
programs
to
encourage
everybody
to
properly
maintain
their
properties
within
the
district.
A
You
know
if
we
want
to
jump
onto
those
ideas
or
go
a
different
direction
of
our
own,
but
before
we
start
start
talking
about
incentive
packages
and
facade
grants
and
those
sort
of
things,
let's
see
what
he's
got
to
say
and
we'll
see
we
can
at
least
get
them
in
here.
It's
not
the
next
workshop
in
the
next
meeting,
so
I
will
make
I'll
try
to
make
that
happen.
The
next
four
to
six
weeks,
if
they
give
them
the
ability
to
talk
to
that
sort
of
stuff,
yeah.
D
A
I
mean
I,
I
think,
one
of
the
missed
opportunities
that
we've
had.
I
guess
I
could
pick
on
candice
bay
and
I
think
I'm
down
the
corner,
the
backside
of
that
always
looked
horrible
to
me,
and
it
seemed
to
be
a
shame
that
you
have
some
buildings
out
there
that
very
they
look
approachable
from
the
front,
but
from
the
back
you
know
you
would
never
call
that
your
place,
a
business
where
you
have
other
places
like
I'll,
say
the
ritz.
You
know
all
three
sides
of
the
wrist.
It's
brick,
it
looks
nice.
A
A
The
thing
that's
just
north
of
the
strip
center
is
just
north
of
angus.
The
whole
backside
of
that
I
mean
why
don't
we
have
something
back
there?
Why
is
it
just
a
big
metal
wall
and
just
doors?
I
mean
it,
looks
horrible
and
there's
something
that
you
think
that
we
can
do
about
that,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
you
know
you
put
out
for
sideways.
You
allow
them
to
earn
five
to
ten
thousand
dollars
to
fix
that
as
a
whole,
I
mean
that
helps
beautify
our
city
and
that
helps
them.
I
I
would
suggest
that,
as
part
of
a
brainstorming
session
that
we
include
on
my
list
for
downtown
under
development
and
then
implementation
execution
of
specific
programs
like
that
they
can
go
to
address
the
problems
that
you're
talking
about.
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
get
into
design
standards
because
you're
talking
about
that
as
well
and
we're
going
to
heather
about
that,
but
it's
more
a
matter
of
developing
the
programs
that
can
then
be
worked
and
marketed
to
those
property
owners
with
incentives
to
do
something
about
it.
I
B
K
B
My
mission
is
to
make
jack's
beach
more
outdoor
friendly
for
diet.
I'm
shocked
that
there's
so
little
outdoor
dining
in
our
main
downtown
area
and
one
of
the
ideas
that
I've
always
kicked
around
and
not
that
I
expected
to
move
anywhere
is
right.
Next
to
lakeland
plaza.
We
have
that
street
at
the
second
street
north.
B
F
We've
been
trying
to
get
a
mission
to
build
something
on
that
parking
lot
to
utilize,
the
green
space,
the
parkway
multiple
multiple
years
now
trying
to
get
that
done.
I
think
the
city
house
is
actually
currently
working
on
something
to
utilize
the
green
space.
I
would
love
some
a
little
bit
more
outdoor
music,
that's
super
loud,
but
I'd
also
like
outdoor
skiing,
because
we
live
in
florida
on
that
that
should
be
on
our
list.
F
F
Is
including
mangoes
there's
no
reason
we
should
be
seeing
because
we
haven't
come
to
the
place
that
those
dumpsters
should
be
covered
they're.
Not,
then
I'd
like
to
kind
of
focus
on
two
more
things.
F
There's
this
argument
about,
leading
by
example
or
enforcing
people,
to
do
it
it's
like
in
which
way
you
go
for
a
sensitive,
incentivizing
beautification.
I
must
say
this
about
anybody,
our
current
anything.
What
I
am
a
lot
of
our
current
properties
that
we
are
maintaining
look
like,
but
there's
no
other
word
for
it
and
you
can't
maintain
other
people.
Tell
people
hey,
we'll
incentivize
you
to
do
this.
If
you
can't
do
it
ourselves,
so
I
think
we
need
to
focus
on
getting
our
own
stuff
fixed
first,
but
the
plans
to
say
look.
F
Do
you
see
what
we're
doing
we
want
you
to
do
the
same
thing,
but
other
people
are
like.
Well,
you
can
shame
us
into
doing
it
by
having
everybody
else.
Do
it
better
and
we're
like?
Oh,
the
city
sucks
like
there's
gotta,
be
some
kind
of
goodies
in
planet
there
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say
some
of
those
are
things
that
you
want
list
is
the
retail
border
art.
I
looked
at
the
plan
multiple
times
that
everything
every
forward
in
our
plan.
Our
current
plan
we
have
is
in
the
north
end.
F
There
is
nothing
and
I
would
agree
with
you
that
if
we
are
going
to
focus
on
bringing
maybe
like
an
old
town,
retail
and
a
new
age
downtown
like
there's
two
different
fields,
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
go
to
the
council
to
ask
them
to
let
us
and
then
plan
to
have
a
old
town,
retail
and
the
new
retailer
having
to
have
different
feels
to
them,
but
both
centralized
and
structured
the
same
as
far
as
traveling.
What
have
you
that's?
What
I
like
to.
B
D
Well,
I
was
just
going
to
say
on
your
third
comment
on
us
maintaining
our
stuff.
I
fully
agree-
and
I
think
trevor
is
doing
a
great
job
in
getting
started
on
that
because
he's
doing
some
basic
designers
and
did
some
groundwork
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
do
some
of
that
maintenance
and
get
it
to
look
right.
But
it's
been
neglected
for
so
long
and
I
guess
no
irrigation
and
we've
got
planners
to
fix
and
things
like
that,
but
I
think
we're
starting
to
make
improvement
in
there.
D
A
I
mean
the
easy
thing:
as
we
talk
about
dumpsters
that
are
out
there,
I
mean
we
can
go
ahead
and
start
fixing
those
things.
There's
trash
cans
out
there
that
some
of
them
are
outside
some
of
them
look
great.
We
can
make
those
things
all
uniform
across
the
board
that
doesn't
take
any
money
at
all.
It
just
takes
a
little
desire
for
us
to
do
it
the
dollars,
that's
something
that
I
think
is
coming.
A
So
you
know
the
ballots
trash
cans.
Those
are
easy
things
that
we
can
get
done
and-
and
I
mean
all
that
stuff-
and
I
I
I
think,
you're
100
right.
You
know
that
we,
you
know,
we
need
to
walk
the
walk
ourselves
and
you
know
I
think
it's
like
everything
else.
You
start
to
give
people
something.
That's
nice.
They
start
to
treat
it
nice
if
you
give
them
crap
they're,
going
to
treat
it
like
crap.
D
We're
still
brainstorming
jeff.
I
would
like
just
for
it's
one
of
these
things.
That's
been
kicked
down
the
road
without
any
resolution,
but
I
would
like
to
see
the
city
decide
one
way
or
another,
whether
we're
going
to
do
a
parking
structure,
because
it's
still
on
the
agenda
to
be
explored,
there's
different
locations
to
be
explored.
There's
people
who
want
it
and
there's
people
who
don't
want
it.
D
I
think
that's
a
significant
enough
project
that
you
know
got
a
plan
around
whether
we
have
a
parking
structure
or
not,
because
the
planning
would
be
different
because
you
need
more
surface
parking
without
it.
So
I'd
like
to
have
that
decided
one
way
or
another
in
the
near
future,
whether
we're
gonna
have
one
or
not
have
one
and
then
put
it
together.
D
A
Because
I
had
a
conversation
with
the
forum
there
and
because
it
seemed
like
every
time
we
had
a
joint
meeting,
that's
all
we
talked
about
and
it
wasn't
getting
anywhere
and
it
looked
like
it
was
going
to
be
a
city
council
decision.
So
I
basically
said
until
you
guys
decide
you
know,
maybe
we
should
stop
having
these
meetings.
A
D
E
I
I
think
those
are
things
that
we
can
start
addressing.
I
think
there's
still
a
bigger
issue
to
look
at,
and
that
is
what
is
the
plan
for
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach
and
it's
not
just
downtown,
but
it's
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach.
I
know
city
council
is
trying
to
start
addressing
this
by
doing
a
number
of
different
things
and
for
us
to
be
able
to
really
focus
on
what
needs
to
happen
to
the
downtown
district.
E
F
Okay,
so
I
wanted
to
address
the
parking
garage
as
well.
It's
my
understanding.
I've
talked
to
different
capsule
people,
different
mayors,
past.
F
That,
somewhere
along
the
line,
if
said
garage,
was
going
to
happen,
it
would
be
multi-use
because
that's
the
only
way
anybody
could
ever
agree
to
it
would
never
just
be
a
stand
alone.
That's
where
I've
gotten.
My
conclusion
from.
I
know
that
it
just
really
doesn't
matter.
Where
does
that
parking
lot?
Go
it
isn't
on
city,
property
or
speed,
crm
property,
and
that's
also
a
discussion.
That's
for
debate
right,
so
I
am.
I
personally
am
a
believer
that
if
you
build
it,
it's
an
infrastructure
project,
it
incentivizes
nice,
restaurants.
F
F
And
the
city
themselves,
it
would
be
good
to
know
because
the
city
themselves
actually
has
some
discussion
points
in
their
original
comprehensive
plan
to
have
excess
parking
in
outside
of
our
district
and
have
it
to
where
transit
system
brings
them
to
our
areas
like
bikes
by
trolley.
So
it's
actually
in
their
comprehensive
lessons,
but
they
may
have
centralized
sparking
outside
and
if
they
do,
then
there's
no
need
for
us
to
have
it
when
the
downtown.
But
we
don't
really
know
so.
I
I
But
those
are,
I
invite
you
to
look
at
that
again
and
we
can
have
a
detailed
discussion
with
staff
and
others
on
where
some
of
you
stand,
but
to
look
at
them
and
take
notes
on
them
as
we
come
together
to
continue
this
conversation
on
items
here
out
or
not
we'll
keep
it
on
the
list.
I
D
One
of
the
big
buzzwords
is,
you
know
the
energy
and
sustainability,
and
things
like
that
and
the
federal
government
is
supposedly
coming
up
with
that
infrastructure
plan
is
going
to
be
heavily
incentivizing
green
energy,
and
there
is
a
lot
of
stuff
that
a
downtown
business
district
can
incorporate
to
encourage
you
know:
energy
savings
and
sustainability,
either
being
solar
solar
panels.
D
I
think
I
mentioned
this
before
there
is
concrete
that
is
made,
that
is
solar,
reflective
to
reduce
the
heat,
that's
retained
in
the
ground
and
make
it
easier
better
for
pedestrians
and
also
reflect
back
the
sun
back
into
the
wherever
it
goes,
and
then
white
roof
there's
a
lot
of
huge
savings
for
property
owners
if
they
just
put
on
those
light,
roof
coatings,
they
look
better
when
they're
looking
down
and
we
could
encourage
those
two
things
that
we
want
to
encourage
with
some
graphs
and
stuff.
D
F
F
C
C
As
far
as
with
us,
we
with
our
equipment,
we're
very
up-to-date
on
our
equipment
as
with
our
officers.
So
that's.
C
A
C
C
A
I
don't
know
if
it's
something
you
need
or
is
it
something?
Let's
just
encourage.
You
know
some
little
pump
kid
to
run
around
and
punch
the
button
off
and,
of
course
you
can
always
make
it
like
the
fire
like
that.
You
pull
it.
The
the
fire
thing
where
it's
going
to
spray,
something
on
you
neon,
we'll
track
you
down
real
fast.
A
B
D
D
E
All
right
well,
thank
you
very
much,
sir
commander,
one
one
question
for
you:
you
know
along
the
lines
of
policing.
Would
it
make
sense
to
have
license
readers
or
something
like
that
that
could
that
could
help.
C
Yes,
we've
been
trying
to
get
license
plate
readers
for
some
time
and
we
have
some
that
are
in
a
program
we've
been
trying
to
bring
in,
but
with
cope
everything
from
last
year.
Some
of
that
was
put
on
hold,
so
I
know
that
the
city
had.
We
have
been
looking
at
at
least
four,
to
tie
into
our
headline
system,
our
current
downtown
system,
as
we
have
our
current
camera
system.
E
I
know
that
the
city
was
trying
to
get
them,
but
they
were
trying
to
get
a
grant
through
the
state
to
to
pay
for
a
portion
of
them
is
what
I
was
understanding.
The
question
is
whether
or
not
the
cra
could
help
out
in
some
way
and
facilitating
getting
those
that
would
be
helpful.
C
Yeah,
that
would
definitely
be
helpful
also.
I
know
that
with
our
current
system,
our
current
camera
system,
before
we
add
more
things
onto
that
we're
trying
to
get
that
back
up
to
speed
as
well.
So
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
moving
parts
that
they're
working
on.
Definitely
that's
something.
We
definitely
need
to
look
at.
A
I
I
would
say
that
everyone
has
agreed
to
the
may
17th
workshop
and
that's
where
I'd
like
to
continue
conversations
about
downtown
start,
bringing
back
responses
to
the
but,
more
importantly,
first
and
foremost,
dick's
height
will
be
here
to
talk
about
street
furnishing.
Follow
us
may
17th.
A
Tax
day
tax
day
well
number
one.
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
all
for
being
here
at
three
o'clock.
I
think
this
it's
gonna
work
for
everybody,
okay,
it
definitely
works
better.
For
me,
I
no
need
to
sit
around
the
five
o'clock
as
a
legion,
and
I
know
some
of
the
city
employees
kind
of
like
the
fact
that
they
don't
have
to
stay
there.
So
I
think
it's
a
win-win
for
everybody.
A
That's
all
being
said
guys,
thank
you,
so
very
much
for
your
time
go
over
this
list.
If
there's
things
on
here
just
make
comments,
because
we'll
probably
have
some
time
to
talk
about
this
and
then
meeting
the
workshop
on
the
17th
and
if
there's
nothing
else,
get
rid
of
the
order
we're
adjourned.
Thank
you
very
good.
Much.