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From YouTube: Community Redevelopment Agency Meeting (08/23/2021)
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A
C
A
D
F
Good
afternoon,
I'm
here
in
places
of
commander
evans
who's
saw
me
in
greece
right
now,
so
try
to
hold
up
my
hand
over
here
nothing
earth
shattering.
As
far
as
downtown
cake
goes.
We
got
the
approval,
obviously
for
the
the
air
conditioning
garage.
I
took
a
half
back
so
far.
We've
got
electricity
of
the
brand,
offering
a
couple
extra
alex
or
an
extra
outlet
in
the
office
make
it
more
usable
and
that
ac
should
be
getting
worked
on
this
week.
F
As
far
as
the
couple
things
went
recently
was
the
we've
had
issues
or
complaints
about
the
mobile
loud
music
exhaust
on
the
car,
something
like
that.
Those
are
complaints
that
were
reported
over
to
us
for
downtown
cape.
We
just
asked
you
to
reach
out
to
your
members
that
have
made
complaints
to
you.
I'd
love,
to
know
that
I
mean
obviously
we're
very
proactive,
as
this
unit
is
for,
but
there's
a
lot
of
times
where
reactivities
happen.
So
if
you
guys
happen
to
see
things
like
that,
please
have
them
call
the
police.
F
We
can
be
there
immediately,
especially
with
park
vehicle
in
the
parking
lot.
We
usually
take
care
of
it,
but
a
lot
of
times
it
takes
somebody.
Let's
know
about
it.
Also,
I
think
jeff.
You
were
one
of
the
big
advocates
for
the
apartment
on
first
or
street.
Just
so
you
know
on
wednesday.
After
over
there,
I
was
in
the
third
avenue
park
and
there
was
three
vehicles:
parking,
eastbound
three
vehicles
parking
westbound,
one
in
downtown
kfar,
the
parklands,
the
ritz
as
one
trying
to
deliver
inside
there.
F
E
E
F
E
D
F
I
think
made
a
big
difference
from
what
I've
seen
it
was
much
more
visible.
The
last
time
I
went
down
there
from
my
previous
rides
through
that
area,
you're
right,
except
for
the
bicycles
they
did
for
today,
so
they
still
try
it
but
you're
right.
It's
helped
out
a
lot
there's
really
as
far
as
cars
going
out
and
they're.
B
B
E
Where
was
this
the
sunshine
park
right
in
the
first
place?
There
council
approved
this
on
august
2nd,
and
it
indicates
that
staff
committee
meetings
are
underway
to
work
out
the
final
design
you
bring
to
the
board,
and
here
our
meeting
here
is
three
weeks
later
after
approval,
and
our
next
meeting
is
another
four
weeks
from
now.
So
that
means
seven
weeks
before
we
even
get
to
see
the
final
design.
To
start
this.
This
was
supposed
to
be
commenced.
E
Okay
and
then
just
the
general
comment,
if
we
go
through
here,
this
is
sort
of
to
provide
us
an
update,
well
some
of
the
items
where
nothing
happened,
but
there's
a
deadline
date.
There's
no
explanation
and
I
think
in
just
going
through
the
the
report,
as
you
presented
to
us,
if
a
deadline
date
has
been
missed,
then
what
happened?
You
know
just
a
an
explanation,
maybe
a
new
deadline
date,
but
there
are
several
instances
of
that.
E
H
H
And
then
didn't
go
back
and
did
the
do
the
lock
in
front
margarita.
So
the
currently
the
block
of
margaritaville
from
six
to
seven
still
has
the
bicycle
with
the
arrow
and
then
the
block
north.
It's
got
the
bicycle
chevrons,
so
they
made
a
mistake
when
they
come
in,
they
have
did
what
we
wanted
to
do
and
then.
H
G
Issue
that
was
the
first
question.
Thank
you
dennis.
The
second
one
has
to
do
with
this
luncheon
for
communication
plan.
Did
you
say
that
they're
going
to
come
and
talk
to
us,
as
it's
also
part
of
this
discussion,
that
communication
is
playing
plan?
I
want
to
know
what
was
discussed,
how
siri
can
utilize
social
media
and
what
have
you
or
is
that
still
on
the
table
for
us
it's
the
last
page.
B
G
And
then
I
did
have
one
more
thing.
I
know
I
said
two,
but
I
actually
have
three.
We
still
haven't
gotten
the
plan
for
how
you
guys
are
going
to
keep
track
of
maintenance,
stuff
necessarily
downtown.
I
need
to
add
something
to
it
and
I
don't
know
the
right
process
to
do
so
like
when
we
were
talking
about
all
these
different
locations
on.
Have
you
are
we
going
to
include
that
list
as
a
separate
sheet
somewhere,
or
do
you
guys
have
a
software
program
where
you're
keeping
track
of
our
crosstalk
sheet.
B
G
D
B
D
A
G
B
We
we
actually
found
the
training
online.
I
don't
know
if
taylor
sent
that
to
you
guys
or
not,
but
we
we
didn't
have
any
way
to
confirm,
like
we
couldn't
figure
out
who
we
needed
to
contact,
but
we
can
try
to
get
you
in
touch
with
that
group
that
hosted
it.
I
can't
even
remember
who
it
was
off
the
top
of
my
head
right
now
and
see.
Maybe
if
you
reached
out
directly,
they
could
tell
you
okay,.
G
Okay
and
then
I
have
one
other
thing
that
actually
had
to
do
with
the
cape
building.
That's
over
there
on.
Fourth
and
second,
we
had
talked
about
how
that
building
ended
up
coming
to
existence
and
how
there
were
certain
things
we
had
to
make
sure
we
weren't
violating
by
putting
the
ac
in
it
in
there
did
that
get
looked
into,
because
that
was
one
of
the
big
things
we
needed
to
verify.
B
H
C
H
Director
of
public
works
here
for
city
jacksonville
beach.
You
have
two
items
in
front
of
you.
The
first
one
is
the
roadway
delineators
on
south
beach
parkway.
There
were
several
some
discussions
several
months
ago
from
this
board,
requesting
to
come
up
with
an
alternative.
What
we
have
in
front
of
you
is
an
alternative.
That's
been
put
together
via
our
public
works
department,
and
so
what
we're
looking
forward
to
is
appropriating
the
total
funds
of
67
436
dollars,
which
includes
15
percent
contingency
for
construction
based
off
the
piggyback
contract.
H
C
G
All
right,
so
I'm
not
gonna
to
let
you
know.
I
look
at
these
drawings
and
I
saw
pretty
much
sidewalk
for
years
joining
and
I
saw
all
these
different
things.
I'm
hoping
that's
not
in
relation
to
what
we're
doing
right
now
because
pulling
up
the
sidewalks.
We
just
did
kind
of
makes
me
sad,
but
there's
the
chart
you
gave
us.
H
H
G
Get
to
so
the
reason
that
happened
is
because
we
had
a
whole
bunch
of
people
from
the
community
come
in
and
talk
about
how
they're
ugly
and
they
wanted
something
nice
and
that's
something.
Nice
ended
up
being
those
really
great
flashy
fishing
lures,
which
are
uglier.
In
my
opinion,
do
we
have
any
alternates
to
this
like
concrete
barriers
that
you
can
put
plants
in,
or
some
kind
I
mean
do
we
have
alternatives?
This
is
just
what
we're
proposing
it's
just
this
one
thing.
H
This
is
what
we're
proposing
is
just
this
one
thing
partially,
because
we
already
have
an
issue
with
space.
If
we
go,
this
is
actually
slightly
smaller
than
what
you
would
normally
be
building
in
this
particular
scenario.
What
is
to
do
to
keep
from
having
to
rebuild
the
entire
roadway
move
lanes
to
do
one
that
requires
plantings.
H
We
have
to
move
both
of
those
lanes
out
to
the
outside,
so
it
would
require
a
significant,
more
amount
of
work
it
would.
It
would
require
a
complete
redesign
to
put
something
in
there
with
planting
beds
or
whatever,
but
I
took
the
direction
from
what
I've
received
as
far
as
feedback
is.
We
just
want
to
eliminate
those
delineators,
so
we
went
back
to
the
original
drawings
and
said:
look.
They
already
had
plans
to
put
a
wall
in
here.
That's.
G
Fine,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure-
and
I
will
say
that-
and
I
don't
know
if
maybe
the
officers
either
come
during
the
cave,
they
did
relay
that.
I
have
seen
multiple
people
in
the
past
month
trying
to
do
a
u-turn
right
there
when
they're
asked
because
they
just
feel
like
down
jacks
while
driving
it's
consistently.
People
are
turning
around
right
there
right
now,
anyway,
so
yeah,
I
just
that's
all
my
questions.
C
E
H
H
H
A
year
in
for
doing
walk
over
construction
this
year
last
year
we
kind
of
had
a
delay
in
the
process
of
getting
the
ada
ones
done
and
then
missing
the
non-turtle
season
for
construction.
So
this
is
just
getting
out
in
front
of
it.
This
has
actually
been
bid,
we're
ready
to
move
forward
and
make
an
award
at
the
september
20th
city
council
meeting
to
to
get
this
under
contract
to
begin
construction
in
november.
So
these.
H
H
Went
on
and
what
we
ultimately
found
out
was
when
we
got
to
got
to
engineering
they
weren't
going
to
be
able
to
get
us
plans
that
could
get
anything
done,
but
about
three
months
of
non-turtle
season
construction,
which
was
not
enough
time
to
complete
anything.
So
we
just
skipped
the
cycle
and
knew
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
this.
We
hope
to
be
doing
this
a
little
earlier
next
year,
but
we
hope
to
be
recurring
with
the
same
process
we're
already
beginning
design
on
the
next
six
inside
the
cra.
H
H
I
believe
that's
what
we're
going
to
see
the
request
come
in
at
continually,
even
though
we're
only
budgeting
500,
I
think
you're
going
to
see
the
bill
come
in
at
600,
for
building
those
and
to
stay
on
track
over
the
next
five
years.
That's
pretty
much
what
we've
got
to
occur
every
year.
We
have
to
do
a
total
of
eight
and
six
inside
the
cra
and
that
you'd
spend
that
five
hundred
thousand
to
do
it,
but.
G
C
D
Dennis
just
two
quick
questions:
I'm
not
sure
I'd
get
to
the
503
number
that
you
have
in
the
summary
sheet.
When
I
look
at
the
tab,
the
video
tab,
tabulating
bid
tabulation,
should
now
get
it
out.
You
take
out
the
two
crossovers
that
are
not
within
the
cra
and
I
get
to
521,
not
503.,
so
I'm
just
want
to
make
sure.
We've
got
the
right
number
here.
H
That
number's
been
checked
multiple
times.
I
can
re-edit
for
you,
but
you've
got
to
substitute
in
the
alternate
5a
for
five
bus
which,
although
that's
only
that's
a
two
thousand
dollar
increase.
So
if
anything
that
makes
your
number
farther
away
from
one
under
one,
the
other
thing
is:
is
the
number
one
item.
H
H
If
you
take
that
seventy
eight
thousand
dollars
and
divide
it
by
eight,
that's
how
I
determine
how
much
you
got
applied
to
each
walk
over.
It's
the
since
demolition
was
only
one
line.
The
only
way
to
really
do
it
and
spread
it
out
evenly
was
to
say
the
total
total
demolition
cost
was.
Seventy
eight
thousand
eight
and
eighty
four
dollars
divided
by
eight.
This
is
just
a
little
under
ten
thousand
per
so
take
that
times
six
and
then
you
add
up
all
the
rest
of
them.
It
comes
out
to
the
503
number.
D
H
So
normally
the
construction
coordinator
that
we
utilized
last
year,
he
was
utilized
for
the
redevelopment
project
and
not
for
the
dune
walkovers,
and
so
since
two
of
these
are
outside
of
the
cra
and
six
of
them
are
inside.
Public
works
has
been
given
the
direction
that
we
try
not
to
do
any
of
that
in-house
or
any
of
these.
H
So
we're
farming
it
out
for
all
eight
of
them
to
have
the
engineering
firm,
oversee
all
the
construction,
because,
obviously,
if
they
have
done
their
design
and
done
properly,
they
should
be
wanted
to
prove
their
construction.
So
we
ultimately
end
up
with
what
we've
agreed
or
what
they've
agreed
to
sell
us
and
what
we
agreed
to
approve.
So
while
we
do
have
that
coordinated
position,
you
need
that
person
has
a
part-time
position
and
is
only
paid
when
we
utilize
them
and
they
don't
have
experience
in
the
doing
walk-overs.
H
Their
experience
level
was
in
the
redevelopment
project
downtown.
So
when
that
redevelopment
project
comes
back
around
for
projects
four
and
five
and
ultimately
six
we'll
look
at
bringing
that
person
back
to
take
on
those
responsibilities
or
we'll
consider
doing
the
contract
services
again,
depending
on
what
we
end
up
doing
for
those
big
projects
based
on
the
original
budget
that
we
put
together
for
the
cra
this
year,
we've
got
him
budgeted
at
80
86
of
his
time.
So.
E
E
H
Public
works
and
presenting
that
we
are
doing
both
alternates.
The
alternates
are
a
alternate
decking
material
or
the
last
final
flat
for
you
around
the
corner
and
then
the
last
flat
that
goes
down
to
the
beach.
It's
actually
an
abs
constructed
plastic
with
some
really
wide
holes
in
it
to
allow
the
sand
to
go
through
because
one
of
the
biggest
complaints
we're
getting
is
the
new
dune
walkovers
are
already
filling
up
with
sand.
H
We
don't
know
for
a
100
sure
this
is
going
to
be
an
answer
so
with
only
having
two
of
them
in
this
batch
that
are
going
to
have
ramps.
It
makes
sense
for
us
to
do
this.
As
the
pilot
to
say,
are
we
going
to
update
our
specs
and
change
everything
going
forward,
or
are
we
going
to
go
back
to
the
solid
ransom?
It
only
is
the
last
section
of
ramp
and
then
the
last
flap
as
you
go
around
the
corner.
That
would
actually
be
perforated
to
allow
the
sand
to
go
through
so.
E
H
Yes,
we
are
so
our
directive
from
the
very
beginning
was
to
replace
these
dune
walkovers
at
the
minimum
as
they
are
existing.
So
if
a
walkover
has
a
ramp,
it
was,
it
was
set
to
be
designed
with
a
ramp
back
into
place.
If
it
was
designed
with
stairs,
it
was
set
to
be
redesigned
back
with
stairs.
Okay.
E
So
there
was
no-
and
I
I
guess
I
don't
really
know
or
have
a
recollection
where
exactly
the
ones
with
ramps
are,
but
I
just
see
hoards
of
people
coming
to
the
beach
on
saturday
and
sunday
mornings
with
their
carts,
and
it
seems
we
should
have
a
good
number
of
ones
with
wraps
to
assist
that
process
of
getting
down
to
the
beach.
Because
that's
one
of
the
reasons
people
walk
around
and
walk
over
is
because
they
have
their
carts.
E
H
From
my
understanding,
there
is
not
the
direction
that
public
works
was
originally
given
for
the
2017
design
of
all
of
them
was
the
minimum
was
to
replace
back
everything
as
it
is.
It
already
had
an
existing
ramp.
It
would
go
back
to
the
ramp
if
it
already
had
stairs
it
would
go
back
to
stairs.
So
where
did
that
direction?
Come
from?
H
I've
only
been
with
the
city
two
years,
so
I
have
a
new
idea.
That's
inherited
the
information,
so
that's
the
way
all
the
original
designs
that
were
done.
One
of
the
other
things
to
keep
in
mind
is
since
the
original
designs
were
done
in
2017.
The
new
heights
been
raised
three
feet.
So
just
so
you're
aware
of
an
increase
in
height
three
feet:
that's
36
feet
of
rain.
H
So
if
you've
already
got
something,
that's
got
12
stairs
and
you
already
have
something:
that's
90
inches,
that's
90
feet
of
ramp
and
you
had
36
more
feet
of
ramp-ons
about
that.
You
end
up
with
130
feet
of
ramp
you're,
going
to
run
out
of
space
before
you
can
get
a
zigzag
back
and
forth
to
get
to
the
beach.
The
only
other
alternative
would
be
to
build
a
ramp
that
was
so
far
out
of
ada
compliance,
which
it
wouldn't
have
to
be
ada
compliant,
but
it
would
be
so
far
out
of
ada
compliance.
H
It
would
be
very
hard
for
anybody
with
strollers
and
wagons
and
everything
else
bicycles
to
move
across
it.
So
I
agree
with
you:
there's
some
some
some
some
direction.
We
would
need
from
from
city
council
that
says
pump
the
brakes
the
next
time
you
re-engineer
and
we
want
them
all
rants
or
quite
the
opposite.
To
saying
we
don't
want
to
have
any
construction
at
all
and
do
walk.
H
E
H
Are
right
now?
Well,
I
don't
know
that
we
have
that
as
existing.
I
know
I
have
the
original
that
were
60
design
from
the
2017,
which
is
every
one
of
them,
but
I
don't
know.
I
can't
tell
you
and,
like
I
said,
that's
three
feet:
lower
elevation,
so
the
minute
you
raise
it
three
feet
that
changes
everything
that
has
to
do
with
that
design.
E
Okay,
so
I'm
just
thinking
if
you've
got
four
blocks
that
don't
have
a
and
then
we've
got
two
ramps
in
close
proximity.
Maybe
as
we
go
forward
because
we've
got
still
20
something
left
to
do,
we
can
take
a
look
at
that
and
say:
maybe
swap
one
of
these
out
make
this
one
a
wrap
and
that
one
a
stair
so
that
there's
more
they're.
H
E
H
They
would
all
be
ramps.
Unfortunately,
there
is
a
lot
of
engineering
that
goes
into
where
these
are
laid
out.
Some
of
these
are
laid
out
on
a
10
foot
easement
and
that's
all
they
are
so
when
you
get
to
the
beach
side,
and
everything
is
also
blessed
by
dep.
So
unfortunately,
we
might
want
to
do
every
one
of
them
in
the
ramp
and
dvd
may
come
back
and
say
no
you're
going
too
far
onto
the
beach.
So
therefore
you
can't
do
it.
H
You've
got
to
start
backing
it
up
and
if
you
get
too
close
to
the
top
of
the
dune,
you
can't
do
it
anyway.
So,
like
I
said,
I
know,
our
direction
at
this
point
in
time
was
to
replace
the
four
ada
ramps
with
ada
grants,
which
this
will
complete,
that
fourth
ada
ramp
within
the
city
and
then,
like
I
said
any
of
them
are
already
currently
at
ranch,
would
would
go
back
as
rants,
where
it's
really
looking
at
anything
that
can
go
ramps
and
stairs.
I
But
I
wanted
to
discuss
with
you
is
what
that
process
is
for
us
to
consider
an
amendment
to
the
plan
for
boundaries.
These
things
have
to
happen.
One
there
has
to
be
a
finding
a
necessity
of
right
and
there
are
a
through
o
characters,
requirements
that
are
met,
and
at
least
one
of
those
requirements
must
be
met.
Our
initial
examination
of
the
area
indicates
that
indeed,
that
could
be
met.
I
It's
a
wide
as
an
area,
substantial
number
of
deteriorating
instructions,
inadequate
street
layout,
faulty
lock,
layout,
unsanitary
and
unsafe
conditions,
deterioration
of
sight
or
other
improvements,
outdated
building
density
patterns,
foreign
square
feet,
four
offices
and
uses
in
that
area.
It
will
require
a
necessity
study
to
proceed.
Do
that,
following
that,
there
would
have
to
be
a
redevelopment
plan
amendment
on
what
will
be
done
to
address
those
body
conditions
in
that
particular
area.
I
The
approval
process
for
an
expansion
of
boundaries
would
also
require
the
approval
of
all
the
taxing
authorities,
including
in
this
case,
the
city
of
jacksonville,
who
would
have
to
include
the
addition
of
that
particular
area
into
the
downtown
sea
ira
redevelopment
plan,
and
I
wanted
just
to.
As
I
said,
I
want
to
explain
to
you
what
the
process
would
be
finding
a
necessity,
a
redevelopment
plan,
if
so
authorized
and
recommended
by
and
approved
by
you
and
going
to
the
city
council
approval
for
adoption,
and
with
that
any
questions
you
might
have
on
that.
A
G
G
For
those
of
you
guys
who
are
following
city
council
as
well,
they
are
talking
about
maybe
discussing
heights
height
limits
in
downtown.
Do
we
know,
or
did
they
have
a
discussion
about
this
being
part
of
that
incentive
for
them
to
consider
re-addressing
the
height
limits
in
downtown
jack
speech?
Do
we
know
that
was
discussed.
B
E
A
D
Us
in
moving
some
potential
projects
in
the
right
direction.
The
only
thing
that
hopefully
everybody's
going
to
be
taking
a
look
at
is
that
if
we
do
that,
I
guess
what
happens
is
that
those
properties
along
there
come
off
the
tax
rolls
basically
and
there's
funding
that
doesn't
isn't
available
any
longer
to
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach.
B
G
So
how
what's
the
time
frame
for
them
to
really
have
this
discussion.
The
reason
I
say
that
is
like
hypothetically
right,
let's
just
say
that
it
does
get
put
on
and
we
decide
that
you
know
this
whole
area
is
going
to
be
built
up.
We
may
or
may
not
make
it
before
it's
easier
for
builders
to
build
up
and
they
get
larger.
I
The
question
of
race
is
the
second
part
of
the
action
that
would
have
to
occur.
A
decision
is
made
to
consider
a
new
plan
and
changing
the
boundaries.
The
final
assessment,
what
comes
after
that
is
that
the
redevelopment
plan
itself
has
to
address
every
one
of
those
items.
That
also
has
to
then
be
adopted
and
approved,
because
one
has
to
talk
a
not
only
about
integration
with
what
we
have
here.
But
what
b
has
currently
said
about
mr
peyton
and
others?
I
C
A
E
But
if
we
decide
to
go
that
route,
it
really
has
to
be
as
fast
a
track
as
it
can
be,
because
once
that's
announced
that
we're
considering
it,
then
all
development
will
stop,
because
why
would
anybody
develop
their
property
when
they
could,
if
they
wait
a
couple
years
be
able
to
go
up?
Another
couple
starts
we'll
talk
about
two
different
things.
B
B
B
B
You
know
scale
when
it
comes
to
pedestrians,
different
types
of
signs
and
basically
standards
for
each
one
of
those.
So
when
you're
in
the
downtown
district,
all
the
signage
is
consistent.
It's
colorful
they're,
all
they're,
all
going
to
look
like
they
were
printed
at
the
same
place,
I'm
going
to
find
the
one.
I
think
it's
in
here
the
page
that
shows
all
the
existing
sides
you're
downtown
and
how
crazy
they
are.
B
C
B
So
we're
looking
for,
if
you
guys
have
any
you
know,
questions
for
us
to
relay
back
to
dick's
height
or
if
you
have
comments,
thoughts
on
this
plan
and
again
direction
to
proceed
forward.
If
you
guys
are
ready
to
move
on
this,
just
like
with
the
bike,
racks
and
trash
cans,
public
works
can
work
with
dick's
height
to
just
move
on
to
the
next
step,
with
the
wayfinding
signs.
G
B
G
B
B
H
H
H
G
B
D
The
surfboards
was
something
that
was
reviewed
and
agreed
upon
by
everyone.
No
I'm
not
sure
how
we
got
specifically
to
this
point.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
this,
something
graphically
that
the
city
truly
wants
to
see
that
the
surfboards
all
over
the
place.
I
I'm
just
curious
as
to
whether
or
not
we're
all
on
more,
but
this
is
the
design
scene.
E
D
All
of
this
work
together
and
look
consistent,
rather
than
just
a
hodgepodge
of
stop
all
over
the
place.
I'm
just
not
comfortable
that
doing
these
separately
makes
sense.
It
needs
to
be
one
complete
package.
Are
we
going
to
look
at
all
of
the
locations
that
they
kite
identified
for
potential
artwork
or
we
can
identify
specific
sites
that
we
want
to
take
a
look
at
for
artwork
and
then
how
does
that
detail
or
coordinate
with
the
digital
signs
and
some
of
the
larger
surfboard
weight?
D
Finding
signage
to
me,
there's
just
a
number
of
questions
that
still
need
to
be
answered.
I'm
not
completely
comfortable
with
where
this
is
at.
So
you
don't
want
to
tell
staff
to
move
forward
right
now.
Well,
I'd
like
to
see
that
go
back,
I
think
they
were
asking
for
input
on
what
dick
hunt
should
do
or
what
we
can
work
towards,
and
I
think
putting
a
complete
package
together.
Rather.
A
G
I'm
in
agreeance,
with
david
I'd
like
to
move
forward
with
this
with
jeff
about
how
this
came
about
and
as
far
as
a
little
extra
history
on
that
is
my
understanding.
Probably
seven
years
ago
there
was
a
workshop
about
what
people
like
to
see
and
then
it
kind
of
went
to
the
old
administration
and
then
yes,
it
was
presented
to
us
after
the
decision
was
made.
G
We
don't
really
have
to
be
the
deaf
person.
That's
that's
just
on
that
part.
So
I
personally
would
agree
that
we
should
move
forward.
However,
I
didn't
really
understand
the
map
for
when
things
belong,
so
I
would
agree
that
we
should
probably
look
at
that
compared
to
the
art
as
well
and
see
where
we
want
them,
but
I
don't
think
that
should
stall
us
moving
forward
with
the
concept
of
designs
and
the
type
of
signs
that
we
need
to
live
with.
B
E
E
D
C
I
Mr
chairman
remembers,
I
was
asked
some
time
ago
to
come
up
with
art
master
plan,
best
practices,
which
is
a
document
that
I've
given
to
you
and
I'll
be
the
first
to
say
that
a
lot
of
this
is
not
original
on
my
part,
because
the
development
of
our
plans
and
the
selection
installation
art
is
not
something
that
I
would
consider
to
be
an
area
of
expertise
for
me
as
a
lowly
economic
development
practitioner.
So
consequently,
I've
depended
upon
several
sources.
I
One
is
what
are
people
doing
around
our
state
and,
more
importantly,
what
is
extremely
significant
in
terms
of
the
best
practices?
This
came
from
the
american
art
and
public
places,
national
organization
list
of
best
practices
for
consideration,
and
I
would
like
to
come
back
to
something
that
was
mentioned
a
little
bit
earlier
by
mr
paytow.
The
jacksonville
beach
downtown
art
master
plan
is
a
locational
guide
based
upon
where
four
types
of
art
can
come
can
can
be
placed.
I
I
What
is
really
important-
and
this
is
part
of
something
for
you
to
consider-
that
there
be
a
selection
committee
put
in
place
that
are
based
on
art,
experts
with
art,
expertise,
our
professionals,
community
leaders,
art
educators
and
collectors
to
come
together
and
guide
us
on
a
call
to
artists
to
come
back
with
recommendations
on
what
should
go
where
to
guide
that
process,
and
this
is
something
that
the
cra
coordinate
coordinator
could
manage.
Now.
What's
really
important
and
I'd
like
to
go
to
again
the
quote
that
I
provided
at
the
opening
of
the
statement.
I
I
like
that
quote
because
whatever
might
be
selected
and
what
might
go
in
some
people
are
going
to
like
it.
Some
people
are
not
going
to
like
it,
but
we
will
have
art
experts
coming
into
play,
going
for
national
artists
and
local
and
local
artists
to
come
in
and
make
recommendations
based
on
guidelines
from
a
plant
and
your
thoughts
on
locations
of
what
can
go
in
there
to
go
to
come
into
play.
I
So
this
is
this
is
for
you
to
consider
to
think
about,
but
the
best
practices
are
get
a
committee
of
art
experts
and
we
recommend
that
they
come
from
the
beaches
and
when
we
say
the
beaches
from
atlanta
beach
to
paname,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
people
in
our
area
who
can
be
considered
to
be
are
experts
that
can
come
into
play
from
community
leaders
et
cetera.
That
can
be
selected
to
work
on
so
this.
This
is
your
first
time
seeing
it,
but
I
would
like
you
to
look
at
it
and
think
about
it.
I
Pieces.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
where
the
veteran's
piece
used
to
be
it's
a
significant
large
sculptural
pieces
that
that
can
be
considered.
First,
we
have
a
lot
of
murals
that
are
going
up
now
and
the
plan
talks
about
where
murals
can
go
in
some
of
our
many
locations,
but
we
also
point
out
that
in
the
plan,
as
pointed
out
as
we
all
know,
a
lot
of
things
have
changed,
since
this
was
done
some
of
the
places
that
they
recommend
aren't
there
anymore.
So
that's
part
of
an
examination
that
has
to
take
place
as
well.
I
I
A
A
D
All
of
that
make
sure
we're
comfortable
with
where
the
digital
signs
are
going
and
thanks
to
that
extent,
you
know,
unfortunately,
I
didn't
get
the
information
until
friday
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
this,
that
you
know
that
we
were
told
to
take
a
look
at
those
two
documents,
and
you
know
just
taking
a
quick
look
at
it.
Those
are
my
reactions,
I
think,
with
some
further
study.
I
think
we
can.
We
can
take
it
further.
D
G
Up
in
a
drawer
somewhere,
but
has
anybody
really
taken
a
look
and
decided
that
this
is
the
direction
that
we
want
to
go
francis?
I
did
have
a
question,
but
I
also
like
to
respond
to
gary.
I
think
at
this
point.
We
just
need
to
go
with
it,
because
all
our
marketing
is
based
off
surfboards
and
all
our
marketing
right
now
is
through
the
lifeguard
station.
That
is
me
personally.
G
G
Jim
regards
to
how
this
is
going
to
work,
so
we
have
your
suggestions
and
best
practices.
We
have
the
dix
heights
proposed
areas.
Instead
of
doing
these
different
four
corridors,
we
have
our
incentive
toolbox
that
we've
approved
to
sympathize
companies
in
these
areas
to
enhance
those,
and
we
have
our
biking
platform
in
place.
All
those
things
are
now
able
to
go
into
these
areas
for
us
to
kind
of
co-mingle
all
of
these
projects
together.
G
G
I
Would
suggest
that,
as
it
relates
to
the
best
practices
on
arts,
there
is
an
agreement
modifying
it
or
changing
it
that
we
do
present
that
to
the
city
council
to
get
their
thoughts
and
feedback
on
how
to
let
that
work.
I
do
think
that's
appropriate.
I
think
that
some
of
these
things
can
take
place
simultaneously.
However,
except
the
policy
direction
would
be
to
reaffirm
their
own
patients
here
and
then
potentially
use
the
excitement,
others
to
come
in
to
verify
locations
and
then
proceed
with
this
process
with
an
art
selection
committee.
G
I
I
think
you
take
the
recommendation.
The
first
step,
then,
would
be
to
select
the
selection
committee,
who
are
those
arts
experts,
and
how
do
we
go
about
doing
that?
We've
had
some
conversations
internally
with
the
staff
about
that
identifying
people
that
we
know
that
are
experts
that
will
be
part
of
the
conversation
as
well.
G
C
Who
made
the
the
signage
that's
on
beach
boulevard
in
a1a?
Does
the
cra
do
that
or
the
city
or
like
the
cape
lot,
because
that's
those
are
surfboards,
so
I
mean
I
feel
like
that
kind
of
theme
has
already
been
established
and
if
we
go
against
that,
then
I
feel
like
we're
gonna
end
up
having
to
update
those
as
well.
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
comment.
B
Right
so
well,
really,
for
both.
You
know
from
staff's
perspective
that
we
would
look
for
direction
on
both.
You
know
moving
forward
with
starting
on
the
next
step
of
the
way,
finding
signs
and
then
also
direction
on
moving
forward
with
starting
to
develop
using
these
best
practices,
some
type
of
art
master
plan
program,
because
you
know
we
have
this
beautiful
book.
That
shows
us
what
kind
of
things
could
be
where,
but
we
right
now
don't
have
a
way
to
implement
it.
B
A
B
B
A
G
B
G
B
G
B
Well,
and
if
I
could
mr
chair
and
to
david's
point,
you
know
staff's
going
to
be
looking
at
these
and
make
overseeing
the
implementation
of
these.
So
you
know
we'll
have
all
that
information
and
where
we
see
conflicts
like
a
huge
sculpture
right
next
to
a
big
surfboard
sign.
You
know
we'll
have
the
opportunity
to
say.
Well,
maybe
we
need
to
move
this
one
over
here
or
we'll
relocate
that
there.
So
you
know
there'll
be
opportunities
during
the
implementation
phase.
B
If
it's
something
that
we
can't
obviously
do
on
our
own
decision-wise,
we'll
bring
it
to
you
guys.
If,
there's
you
know,
options
on
the
table.
Well,
we're
not!
You
know
we're
not
to
that
point
yet.
Certainly
we'll
reach
out
to
dick's
height
see
what
they
can
produce
for
us
to
make.
You
know
make
this
process
a
little
bit
easier.
E
E
A
B
These,
basically
are
the
construction
documents,
so
what
we
would
be
doing
with
dixite
is
again
the
same
thing
we
did
with
the
bike
racks
and
the
ballers,
and
trash
cans
is
basically
authorizing
them
to
put
it
out
to
bid.
So
we
can
get
pricing
for
these
things,
so
we
can
come
back
to
you
guys
and
say
this
is
how
much
actually
putting
these
signs
on
the
ground
is
going
to
cost
for
design,
final
design,
construction
and
then
installation.
A
J
Would
you
like
to
gamble?
I
would
not
like
the
gavel.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
for
the
opportunity
to
address
the
community
redevelopment
agency.
I
just
I
brought
a
few
comments
on
this
issue,
but
since
I
was
here
for
the
meeting,
I
have
a
few
comments
on
some
prior
discussion
and
there's
no
clock
running
so
indefinite.
J
B
J
J
Work
that
the
city
council
has
done
our
vision
statement
is
a
vibrant
coastal
community
that
embraces
the
beach
life.
The
beach
life
is
in
quotes,
and
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
surfboards
are
a
big
part
of
that.
So
probably
not
my
favorite
look
in
the
world,
but
I
think
the
surfboards
are
consistent
with
kind
of
the
look
and
feel
that
we
have
in
our
downtown
it's
ms
paulowski
noted
with
our
lifeguard.
B
J
Logo
and
everything
like
that,
so
a
couple
other
items
with
regards
to
the
height
amendment.
It
has
absolutely
nothing
to
do
with
the
expansion
of
the
cra
boundaries.
Those
two
things
are
completely
independent.
It
had
never
even
occurred
to
me
to
put
them
together
until
you
put
them
together,
so
I
just
want
to
come
back
and
officially
detach
them.
The
discussion
of
the
hiding
minute
is
within
the
construct
of
our
charter
review,
which
we're
going
kind
of
chapter
by
attacker.
Our
our
city
charter
is
basically
our
city's
constitution.
J
We
have
not
done
a
wholesale
review
of
that
in
a
few
decades,
so
we
are
doing
that
a
couple
a
month,
so
we're
working
through
that.
If
the
council
decides,
we
want
to
put
the
height
amendment
up
for
our
vote,
it
would
go
to
the
citizens,
so
it
would
not
be
something
that
would
come
before
this
board
for
a
vote
now,
if
we
do
decide
to
move
forward
with
that,
there
may
be
a
piece
of
that
that
we
propose
revisions
to
the
land
development
code
in
replacement
or
substitution
at
that
point.
J
But
it's
not
going
to
come
to
you
guys
for
your
vote
other
than
as,
as
francis
correctly
pointed
out
as
your
vote
as
a
citizen
of
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach,
the
expansion
of
the
boundaries.
I'll
take
credit
blame
I
don't
know
which
one
you
want
for
that
when
sherman
graham
and
I
were
coming
back
from
delray
and
we
were
just
kind
of
brainstorming,
jotting
down
ideas,
two
of
the
things
one
I've
talked
to
a
few
of
you
about
is
just
a.
J
Of
at
least
one
of
our
surface
parking
lots
and
then
expansion
of
the
boundaries
with
the
other.
I
don't
think
we've
even
gone
into
the
specifics
of
what
that
would
look
like
in
terms
of
how
far,
but
I
can
say
I
would
never
even
contemplate
going
down
beach
boulevard.
I
would
contemplate
going
right
across
third
street
and
grabbing
a
few
blocks.
There,
they're
underdeveloped,
there's
drainage
issues,
there's
also
quite
a
few
already
tax-exempt
properties
such
as
the
museum,
several
churches
back
there,
so
it
would
require
it's
a
heavy
lift
to
get
that
done.
J
But
if
we
are
renegotiating
our
south
end
for
example,
then
I
would
say:
let's
do
this
at
the
same
time
and
kind
of
get
a
trade-off
there
to
to
scoop
up
another
area
of
our
city
that
could
use
a
little
help
and
use
some
continuity
with
our
downtown
area.
That's
just
my
opinion.
That's
where
I'm
coming
from
with
it.
So
I'm
I'm
just
speaking
as
myself.
There.
J
J
J
J
J
Bullet
points
agenda:
it
was
not
super
structured,
but
they
didn't
want
the
meeting
to
devolve,
and
we
have
seen
too
many
of
our
meetings
devolved
into
parking
or
reorganizing
this
year.
So
we
just
completely
took
those
off
the
table,
so
we
really
had
probably
one
of
the
most
productive
conversations
and
I
left
with
the
most
optimism
for
our
council
being
on
the
same
page
than
in
my
eight
years
of
prior
council
service.
J
So
I
hope
that
I
can
convey
that
kind
of
energy
and
enthusiasm
and
unity
that
the
council
has
that
we've
never
been
more
clear
about
the
direction
that
we
want
our
downtown
to
take
and
that
we
want
you
as
the
cra
to
take
hold
of
and
to
lead
for
us
and
that's
economic
development
in
our
central
downtown
area
period
and
a
sentence.
A
distant
second
was
redoing,
some
of
our
green
spaces
reimagining
some
of
our
green
spaces,
but
I
think
those
kind
of
come
together
in
a
lot
of
ways.
J
So
the
alignment
of
our
council,
as
well
as
how
it
fits
in
with
our
strategic
priorities
as
we're
doing
our
strategic
plan
and
the
fact
that
we
have
all
the
tools
in
place
give
us
the
opportunity
to
answer
this
question.
How
do
we
leverage
our
public
assets
to
encourage
private
development?
And
that
is
the
question
you
guys
should
have
up
on
the
dais
in
front
of
you
all
the
time
the
cra
dollars
right
now
in
our
downtown.
We
should
be
using
them
to
encourage
private
development,
and
how
do
we
do
that?
J
J
We
have
jim
and
taylor
and
their
team
and
all
of
the
resources
that
they
bring
to
bear
the
resources
of
the
florida
redevelopment
association
and
some
very
patient
investors
that
are
waiting
for
us
to
put
the
tools
in
place
so
that
we
can
help
them,
spend
their
money
and
invest
in
downtown
jacksonville
beach,
and
I
want
to
say
that
I
count
you
five
among
our
assets.
This
is
one
of
the
most
competitive
boards
to
be
put
on.
It's
the
one
everybody
wants
to
be
on.
We.
J
All
for
a
reason,
so
please
don't
take
that
for
granted.
We
don't
take
you
for
granted
you're
all
here
for
a
reason
and
you
bring
something
different
to
the
team.
So
I
want
you
guys
to
stop
looking
back
at
the
missed
opportunities,
like
second
street
parking
garages,
stop
looking
down
at
broken,
pavers
and
mismatched
things
that
we
need.
J
J
Development
within
the
downtown
area,
could
you
elaborate
on
that?
I
think
at
the
end
of
there's
no
end
to
this
work,
but
I
think
the
next
product
that
I
would
like
to
have
is
a
fancy
beautiful,
graphics,
good
photos
book
that
we
can
hand
to
someone
who
says
I
want
to
invest
in
downtown
jacksonville
beach.
Here's
what
we've
done.
We've
got
20
40
years
of
infrastructure
projects
that
we
have
done
to
make
our
downtown.
J
Shape
so
we
need
to
talk
about
the
infrastructure
investments
that
we've
made,
the
beautification
investments
that
we've
made
and
then
the
incentive
package
that
would
all
go
together
to
to
sell
jacksonville
beach
to
someone
who
wants
to
to
spend
their
money
and
invest
here.
The
interesting
thing
is,
and
the
benefit
to
us
is
that
we
a.
A
E
I
I
can
talk
about
that
because
I
think
that
the
base
elements
are
in
place
to
build
the
document
that
you're
talking
about.
Let's
talk
about
some
of
the
work,
that's
already
been
done.
You
send
a
toolbox
instead
of
toolboxes
everything
and
stuff,
but
that
needs
to
be
clarified
and
brought
down
to
specifics
that
can
be
utilized
as
a
tool
to
promote
economic
development
and
as
part
of
that,
we've
discussed
and
have
already
done
some
drafting
on
two
documents.
I
I
But
we
can
but
we're
talking
about
a
survey
to
talk
to
existing
businesses,
to
existing
property
owners,
first
off
to
get
their
thoughts
based
upon
that
toolbox
with
ways
and
means
and
criteria
of
what
can
be
done
to
help
them
grow
their
business,
expand
their
business
or
to
relocate
a
new
business
here
from
our
property
owners
that
are
real
estate
developers
to
people
that
are
existing
here.
That's,
that
is
the
part
that
at
least
the
staff
that
we
started
talking
about
doing
right
now.
I
The
next
thing
is-
and
we
just
completed
a
piece
that
we
delivered
to
the
city
last
week
on
how
public
private
partnerships
work,
the
format
etc,
and
what
to
think
so.
That's
another
thing
that
we
want
to
distribute
and
to
talk
about
with
the
group
as
well,
and
then
another
thing
that
we
want
to
talk
about
is
that
within
the
plan
itself-
and
this
is
a
very
important
part
of
conversation-
there
are-
has
to
be
a
topic
again
to
confirm
change
or
verify
that
this
is
the
type
of
community
we
want
to
be.
I
I
C
I
G
C
G
I
The
regulatory
issues
is
something
that
that
planning
director
worked
to
look
at
in
terms
of
the
height
issue,
and
I
have
strong
feelings
about
this
all
right.
The
height
issue
is
something
that's
coming
up.
It'll
go
to
voters,
maybe
they'll
pass
it.
Maybe
they
won't
pass
it
on
the
other
hand,
of
the
developers
that
are
significant
in
our
community
who
are
ready
to
invest
to
the
point
that
you
made
earlier
they're
ready
to
proceed
now,
because
you
can't
depend
totally
on
that
happening
in
the
future.
G
And
I
agree
with
that,
and
I
know
that
you
say:
don't
bring
out
parking
again
if
you
do
that,
but
we've
had
developers
who
are
specifically
winning
to
have
valet
parking
and
we
as
a
city
cannot
provide
it
because
we
don't
have
a
parking
garage
and
there's
proposed.
There's
proposed
things
out
there
not
to
like
completely
remove
parking
from
their
lots
completely
like
we.
G
If
we
decide
as
a
board
that
we,
like
the
concept
of
you,
know
removing
all
parking
requirements
in
the
downtown
area,
so
they
can
build
out
and
not
have
required
parking
because
we
would
provide
it
to
them.
What
hurdles
do
we
have
to
overcome
to
ask
council
to
approve
said
change
like
that's?
That's
just
I
mean
it's
great
to
get
a
pitch
book,
but
if
we
know
that
we
want
something,
but
we
have
a
dead
wall
like
we're
going
to
hit
a
wall,
we
can't
really
move
forward
that
pension.
G
G
G
J
Well,
I
was,
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
that's
what
the
council
is
looking
for
from
you,
and
I
would
expect
that
in
the
process
of
creating
this
pitch
book,
you
have
a
list
of
policy
recommendations
to
us.
There
is
a
that.
We
are
telling
you
and
I
am
telling
you
that
the
council
is
expecting
that
from
you
guys.
We.
J
Change
the
city's
policies
we
can,
but
we
need
to
know
that
the
legwork
has
been
done.
This
is
an
impediment
to
development
or
this
is
an
incentive
for
development
and
then
recommending
the
policies
that
we
need
to
put
in
place.
To
do
that.
So
I
would
say
any
future
when
I
hear
the
word
brainstorming,
I
cringe
because
I
we
don't
need
to.
J
Projects
we
need
to
brainstorm
how
to
start
the
projects
that
we
have
and
the
ideas
that
we
already
have
and,
like
I
said
to
mr
payton,
we
had
coffee
the
other
day.
I
said:
how
do
we
get
from
a
just
fake
parking
lot?
Don't
even
put
a
name:
it's
not
the
peer
parking
lot.
It's
not
it's
a
fake
parking
lot.
How
do
we
get
from
there
to
a
multi-use
project.
C
J
What
do
you
guys
need
in
order
to
implement
that
incentivize
that-
and
let's
start
from
that,
because
once
we
have
those
tools
in
place,
we're
going
to
need
to
keep
them
with
each
additional
project,
but
at
least
we'll
know
what
the
options
are.
What
are
the
tools
in
our
toolbox
and
council
will
be
ready
to
be
comfortable
with
that,
particularly.
J
G
I
I
think
we're
on
the
same
page
parking
has
got
to
be
part
of
conversation
and
there
has
to
be
a
parking
way
to
deal
with
it,
and
there
also
has
to
be
an
examination
of
the
regulatory
issues
that
that
that
the
planning
department,
others
might
be
considered
enhanced
as
well.
That's
got
to
be
a
part
of
us.
C
G
J
J
J
J
Three
and
a
half
years
left
in
this
job,
maybe
five
and
a
half.
If
I
go
for
wait,
seven
and
a
half
if
I
work
on
my
mouth,
so
I'm
ready
to
get
some
stuff
done,
because
this
is
all
going
to
take
time
as
you
know,
but-
and
I
really
appreciate
the
fact
that
we're
starting
to
see
some
forward
movement
on
these
projects
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
quite
some
time.
So
thank
you
guys
all
for
your
effort.
J
A
C
So,
in
regards
to
economic
development
in
general,
you
know
a
vibrant
area
has
a
lot
of
various
types
of
businesses
so
that
there's
not
a
gap.
For
example,
if
downtown
is
empty
around
dinner
time,
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
restaurants,
can
we
use
the
incentive
package
or
is
there
an
incentive
that
we
can
set
like
based
on
average
entree
cost
or
something
or
somehow
to
incentivize
them
to
say
we
don't
want
you
serving
snacks?
You
want
you
being.
I
An
actual
restaurant
so
watching
this
depends
upon
the
property
owner
itself
and
what
the
property
owner
sees
to
come
in
there
and
the
incentives
that
we
offer
something
that
we've
discussed
in
the
past
is
where
you
can
provide
incentives
to
help
defray
the
cost
of
building,
build
out
et
cetera,
to
get
someone
in
there
to
make
it
work.
We
are
still
totally
dependent
upon
the
market
and,
as
we
discussed
as
well
we're
not.
I
I
don't
think
we
want
to
be
in
the
business
of
simply
giving
free
money,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
it's
there
and
then
it's
going
to
be
successful
and
if
something
happens,
then
we
have
to
address
that
as
well.
But
that'll
be
a
part
of
the
detail
work.
But
the
answer
to
that
question
is
yes
again:
it's
talking
to
property
owners.
What
does
the
market
work
and
what
do
they
think
that
they
need
to
have
to
get
in
restaurants
and
other
opportunities
that
are
here?
I
But
yes,
when
you
go
back
and
look
at
some
of
the
work
that
we've
already
done,
that
we're
going
to
expand
on
there
are
ways
and
means
to
do
that.
But
it's
not
just
writing
checks,
it's
having
it's
having
requirements
in
there
that
they're
going
to
do
it
and
they're
going
to
have
it.
We
want
them
to
commit
to
be
there
for
a
certain
period
of
time
with
a
minimum
capital
investment
if
we're
going
to
help
subsidize
that,
if
appropriate,
that's
what
it
takes.
C
I
That
to
be
the
case
for
existing
as
well.
It's
it's
about
out
of
talking
to
folks
and
finding
out
what
can
be
done
to
do
you
want
to
do
to
grow
your
business.
We
can't
ultimately
make
them
do
it,
but
at
least
we
can
have
offering
is
that's
where
they
have
to
have
the
conversations
with
them
about.
Where
do
you
see
your
business,
and
how
would
you
like
to
grow
it?
If
it's
a?
I
G
D
I
Two
questions
in
response
to
your
question:
the
answer.
Yes,
that
document
is
prepared
and
then
we'll
get
that
out
to
you
for
your
review
and
see
how
it
works
back
on
the
p3
process
on
the
horn
street
project,
we're
waiting
to
get
firework
back
from
ashley
in
finance
department
on
the
funds
and
how
that
can
go
and
what
we've
agreed
before
is
to
bring
back
something
to
you
in
october
to
issue
an
offering
to
the
community
for
that
form.