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A
Seven
o'clock
meeting
the
planning
commission
will
come
to
order
have
a
oath
of
office
for
ms
white.
Our
new
alternate.
A
All
right,
I
don't
believe
we
have
any
past
minutes
any
correspondence.
Miss
ireland.
C
C
C
The
request
is
for
concept
plan
for
flat
approval
for
a
proposed
six
unit
fee,
simple
townhouse
development
for
property,
located
in
a
residential
multi-family
rm1
zoning
district
pursuant
to
section
34503
of
the
jacksonville
beach
land
development
code.
The
subject
property
is
located
on
the
northwest
corner
of
9th
street
south
and
2nd
avenue
south
and
is
currently
vacant.
C
C
A
Just
very
briefly,
ms
ireland,
what
was
the
modification
that
we're
looking
at
here.
C
A
All
right,
just
very
briefly,
for
those
in
attendance
here.
The
manner
in
which
we
conduct
these
applications
is
that
staff
will
read
the
application
into
the
record,
as
ms
ireland
has
done,
for
this
application.
A
We'll
have
the
applicant
come
forward,
stating
their
name
and
address
and
answering
any
questions
from
the
planning
commission
offering
any
additional
information
they
may
have
at
that
point.
If
I
have
speaker
cards
I'll
open
it
up
for
the
public,
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
favor
are
in
opposition
to
that
particular
application.
A
B
A
D
No,
the
only
thing
I
wanted
to
say
that
last
year
the
members
of
the
board
were
discussing
the
issue
of
being
on
the
school
zone,
and
this
property
and
the
access
to
the
property
is
not
through
the
school
zone
and
also.
C
D
Concern
they
had
was
that
the
residents
there,
when
once
they
drive
into
the
driveway
and
their
property
they
have
to
back
up
into
the
street,
but
that's
the
case
with
every
just
about
every
house.
You
know
in
jacksonville
beach
that
nobody
has
around
the
belt
in
the
front.
You
know
everybody
drives
in
and
then
backs
into.
The
street
goes
out.
A
Okay,
thanks.
Thank
you.
I
don't
have
any
speaker
cards
for
this
application.
Was
there
anyone
that
wished
to
speak
in
favor
or
in
opposition
all
right.
Seeing
none
public
portion
of
me
is
closed
discussion
or
to
have
a
motion.
E
C
There
are
seven
different
properties
that
the
jacksonville
housing
authority
is
redeveloping
right
now
and
I
believe
six
of
them
will
have
two
buildings
with
eight
units
each
and
then
another
one
will
have
slightly
less
because
they're
keeping
a
couple
of
their
buildings
that
are
newer,
but
for
the
most
part,
all
of
their
properties
that
consist
of
a
half
of
a
block
either
the
north
or
half
south
of
any
of
their
blocks
in
this
area
are
going
to
have
16
new
apartments
on
them
with
adequate
parking
and
meet
the
setbacks,
and
all
that
was
that
what
you
were
looking
for.
F
Quick
question:
I'm
sorry,
I
know
that
we
recently
looked
at
a
new
proposal
to
change
the
ldc,
only
six
units
of
five
units
that
does
not
pass
correct.
C
No,
that
did
not
go
through
city
council.
That's
correct!.
C
B
C
C
C
I
don't
have
that
file
on
me
currently.
If
anyone
else
recalls.
A
My
recollection
is
what
the
applicant
stated
was
generally
accurate
for
some
of
the
issues
that
were
brought
up
previously
with
you
know
the
residential
area
backing
into
the
street,
regardless
of
whether
you
think
that's
an
issue
or
not.
It
was
brought
up
as
an
issue
at
the
time
and
the
proximity
to
the
school
general
traffic.
That
type
of
thing.
A
E
I
I'd
like
to
just
say
that,
in
its
conversation
we've
had
before
that,
I
feel
that
there's
a
need
for
a
comprehensive
look
at
residential
and
jack
speech,
and
so
you
know
I
I
don't
see
based
on
our
criteria,
that
we
should
not
approve
this.
For
that
reason,
with
the
caveat
that
I
think
we
need
to
be
taking
a
hard
look
at
our
our
comp
plan
and
our
regulations,
especially
as
it
comes
to
residential,
just
a
comment.
F
I'd
say:
I'd
agree
with
miss
moore
through
the
chair.
I
agree
with
smith
moring
on
the
account
book
and
the
lbc
look
because
everybody
recognizes
the
issues
that
are
currently
in
the
mind
of
the
of
the
public
here
in
the
city.
C
D
The
length
of
it
because
we
have
the
right
of
way
on
our
side,
so
the
the
length
of
the
driveway
will
will
suit
two
cars,
but
in
our
property,
where
we
are
required
to
provide
for
each
unit
two
parking,
so
one
parking
space
will
be
in
the
garage.
One
will
be
on
the
on
the
driveway,
but
technically
they
can
park
three
cars.
There.
F
I
guess
I
guess
of
course
absolutely
so
a
couple
things
I'm
still
certainly
concerned.
I
know
that's
not
a
skull
zone,
but
that
is
one
of
the
main
entrances
to
jack
speech
elementary
and
certainly
the
safety
of
cars.
Backing
out
of
the
driveway
is
still
top
of
mind.
For
me,
you
know:
that's
that's
the
biggest
thing
that
I
have.
I
I
don't
there's
really.
If
it's
six
units
or
four
units,
it's
still
that's
what
I'm
wrestling
with
is
still
an
issue.
F
B
B
G
C
G
G
I'm
I
was
the
owner
of
rpn
and
we
had
10
locations
here
in
jacksonville
and
icon
automotive,
which
is
pep
voices
they
own.
Several
automotive
locations
purchased
all
of
my
locations
and
I'm
still
working
for
them,
so
it's
nice
to
have
a
job
and
they
plan
on
keeping
it.
As
far
as
I'm
aware
they
plan
on
keeping
it
at
rpm.
You
know,
obviously,
because
I
was
a
founder
of
rpm.
I
have
a
lot
of
pride
in
it
and
we've
been
here
for
roughly
10
years.
G
F
G
No,
we
have
hers
at
all
over
all
of
the
rpm
locations.
We
have
herds
inside
to
facilitate
for
our
customers
needs
and
various
needs
of
hertz.
You
know
gold,
customers
and
whatnot.
So
all
the
locations
have
a
hearse,
it's
kind
of
a
subsidiary
or
a
you
know,
just
a
benefit
to
this.
My
whole
model
is
based
on.
Like
a
dealership.
I
wanted
to
have
that.
G
A
G
Here
yeah:
well,
hopefully
you
know.
Obviously
I
have
a
lot
of
pride
in
it
and
you
know
they
assured
me,
but
it's
there.
So
I
mean
what
can
I
say,
but
they
assured
me
that
it's
you
know
they
like
to
model
and
they're.
I
will
say
this
they're
having
me
look
from
one
of
more
locations
to
grand
rpm,
which
is
exciting
for
me,
probably
more
information
you
guys
want
here,
but
I'm
pretty
excited
about
it
through
the.
F
Chair
I'll
comment
for
phil
any
question:
I
hear
good
stuff
about
rpm
all
the
time.
I
don't
use
your
services,
but
I
hear
from
cohorts
that
it's
exactly
what
you
said.
It's
the
dealership
style,
it's
good
service,
it's
good
backup
service.
If
you
need
to
come
back,
so
you
have
a
good
reputation
and
that's
probably
why
you're
selling
defect
boys-
and
I
have
one
question:
did
you
meet
manny,
morrow
or
jack.
G
B
A
I
don't
have
any.
I
had
a
speaker
card
from
from
him,
so
I
don't
have
any
other
speaker
cards
was
there.
Anyone
else
that
wish
to
speak
in
favor
are
in
opposition
to
the
application.
B
C
2219
is
a
conditional
use.
Application
owner
is
five
points:
llc,
8650,
old
kings,
road
suite,
12,
jacksonville,
florida,
32217
and
the
applicant
is
scratch
kitchen
528
beach,
boulevard,
jacksonville,
beach,
florida,
32250
and
then
property
location
is
the
same
as
the
applicants.
It's
the
former
jimmy
hula's
location
and
the
request
is
for
conditional
use
of
approval
for
the
transfer
of
approved
outdoor
restaurant
seating
for
a
new
restaurant
located
in
a
commercial
excuse
me
should
it's
a
commercial
general
c2
zoning
district
pursuant
to
section
34,
342
d20
of
the
jacksonville
beach
land
development
code.
C
The
subject
property
is
located
on
the
south
side
of
beach
beach
boulevard
between
5th
street
and
6th
street
south
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
open
a
new
restaurant,
which
is
the
scratch
kitchen
in
the
existing
building,
most
recently
occupied
by
jimmy
hulas.
The
building
was
originally
constructed
in
1979
as
a
wendy's
restaurant.
C
C
The
reuse
of
this
recently
vacated
commercial
property
for
a
new
restaurant
with
outdoor
seating
should
complement
the
neighborhood
neighboring
properties
and
existing
commercial
establishments,
and
if
I
could
just
point
out
to
you
guys
to
refer
you
to
the
site
plan,
if
I
can
find
it
of
the
proposed
outdoor
seating,
the
existing
seating
is
the
larger
component,
which
is,
if
you've
never
been
to
jimmy
hoola's,
where
they
have
that
on
the
east
side
of
the
building,
and
they
are
proposing
to
add
a
little
bit
more
space.
On
the
north
side.
C
C
To
20
for
outdoor
seating,
the
limit
is
25
of
the
indoor
space
for
square
footage.
I'm
not
sure
the
numbers
on
this
site
plan
are
completely
accurate,
based
on
our
review
of
the
property
appraisers
square
footage,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
guys
know
that
we'll
be
making
sure
that
they
meet
the
requirements
for
maximum
outdoor
seating
when
we
get
to
the
building.
Permit
portion
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
related
to
that.
A
C
They
would,
I
think,
that
their
number,
the
25
80
square
feet
for
the
existing
indoor
restaurant
is
low.
I
think
it
is
larger
than
that
and
the
proposed
the
seating
area
where
it
says
616
the
existing
or
excuse
me,
the
former
jimmy
cool-
is
actually
less
than
that.
So
we
just
need
to
go
back
and
verify
what's
actually
there
indoors,
so
we
can
make
sure
that
they
leave
that
25.
I'm
sure
you
guys
will.
B
A
Brian
is
there
any
if
you'll
raise
your
right
hand.
B
F
B
It's
a
comfort
food
base
like
a
new
american
cuisine.
We're
gonna
have
brunch
dinner.
Okay,
thank
you.
E
If
I
may,
the
the
existing
outdoor
seating,
I
I
looked
at
the
site,
and
I
was
left
somewhat
with
the
impression
that
what
you'd
be
looking
at
would
be.
The
parking
lot
is
that
is
that
right.
So
it's
about
being
outdoors,
as
opposed
to
the
view,
is
that
fair.
B
Yeah
we're
gonna
do
a
little
knee
wall,
probably
some
planter
box
stuff
going
on
kind
of
give
you
that
indoor
outdoor
feel
but
it'll
be
open
there
unless
you're
exactly
what
you're
asking
but.
E
Well,
I'm
always
given
how
hot
it
is
frequently.
I
tend
to
be
a
person
who
goes
inside
to
the
air
conditioning
all.
E
So
you
know
so
I'm
always
looking
for
you
know
what
is
the
the
attraction
to
outdoor
and
sometimes
it's
it's
a
street
view
because,
for
example,
you're
outdoor
seating
on
beach
boulevard
lots
is
happening
and
happening
on
the
beach
there's
something
to
look
at
correct.
But
you
know
it's
kind
of
long
and
narrow
on
the
other
side,
so
I
just
wondered
how
you
envisaged
it
working.
B
A
F
Mr
dahl,
did
you
have
anything
you
wanted
to
once
I
did.
I
wanted
to
put
the
request
on
the
daylight.
The
last
time
I
made
a
just
a
straight
out
request
like
this.
I
was
kind
of
reprimanded,
so
it's
a
respectful
request,
but
if
we
could
get
copies
of
the
lpc
for
the
other
members
mine's
getting
ragged,
it's
fine
I'll,
replace
this
stuff
out
of
the
unicode
when
it
changes.
But
I've
found
it
a
useful
tool
and
it
feels
like
you're
bringing
something.
C
I
will
happily
get
you
guys
new
copies.
I
will
try
to
get
it,
so
it's
in
your
packets
for
the
next
meeting.
B
C
C
I'm
trying
to
keep
you
busy.
Thank
you.
C
H
H
Mr
chair,
would
you
mind
if
I
just
asked
her
for
a
quick
summary
of
what
happened
at
that
meeting
since
some
of
us
weren't
able
to
attend
just
like
a
30?
Second,
I
will
make
it
quick
and
I'll
hope
not
to
leave
anything
out,
though
I'm
sure
I
will,
because
there
were.
There
was
a
very
long
need
a
lot
of
the
input
on
both
sides
of
the
equation
as
it
comes
down
to
it.
H
My
direction.
As
I
see
it
is
still
that
there
will
be
a
registration
process.
Although
some
of
the
requirements
will
change,
some
of
them
may
be
removed,
some
of
them
may
be
lightened,
and
rather
than
seeing
the
list
of
what
is
required
by
fourth
fire
prevention
code
and
florida
building
code,
even
though
it
remains
required
will
be
shortened
to
a
simple
statement.
H
If
maybe
that
there
will
be
a
an
affidavit
or
open
your
application,
that
you
will
always
remain
in
compliance
with
the
fortified
prevention
coding,
florida
building
code,
so
I
think
max
occupancy
definition
has
changed
to
two
per
bedroom
plus,
I
think
one
per
150
don't
come
into
this.
I've
got
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
notes,
but
I
think
it
was
more
akin
to
two
per
bedroom,
maybe
two
plus
and
two
in
a
common
room,
a
common
room
or
a
calculation
for
150
square
feet.
H
A
little
from
bathrooms
to
bedrooms,
so
hopefully
it
it
gave
some
more
lead
weight
to
those
two
numbers:
one
bath
homes
that
we
were
talking
about
out
there
that
were
potentially
problematic.
H
B
H
It
won't
be
necessary
again
with
our
application
process.
What
we
ask
them
to
bring
is
what
they're
already
required
to
show
to
the
state.
So
we're
not
it's
not
new
requirements
that
the
city
is
asking
if
you're
in
compliance
with
the
state,
which
is
proof
because,
if
you're
going
to
be
a
vacation,
you
have
to
have
certain
things
for
the
state.
You
bring
us
that
as
far
as
compliance
with
other
issues,
we
initial
we
did
talk
about
initial
inspections.
H
H
H
Again,
small
things
like
that
which
I
never
saw
was
a
big
thing
anyway,
so
it
was
on
her.
So
that's
going
to
be
one
thing:
that's
removed,
I
mean
again,
it
is
about
compliance,
it
is
about
getting
them
to
register.
It
is
about
just
making
sure
that
you're
registered
correctly
with
the
state
you're
registered
correctly
with
duval
county
and
show
us
that,
and
let
us
know
where
you're
at
so
we
can
keep
up
with
you.
F
F
H
That's
if
you
have
an
agent,
so
it's
just
like
you
have
agents
that
come
before
you
as
a
planning
commission
that
represent
other
applicants,
so
owners
don't
have
to
individually
come
to
it.
They
most
of
the
time
do
have
a
property
manager.
The
good
ones
have
property
managers
that
are
handling
properties
and
these
property
managers.
Businesses
are
built
on
managing
multiples
and
so
so
that
they
can
continue
to
manage
the
business
as
they
have
been
individual
actors
and
they're
out.
H
There
are
going
to
have
to
individually
come
in,
and
sometimes
they
own
more
than
one,
but
we'll
know
who
they
are.
The
24
7
responsible
party
is
still
going
to
be
there,
that
can
be
their
property
agent
and
it
would
make
sense
that
it
would
be
if
you've
got
a
long-term
property
just
so
that
we
have
somebody
to
contact.
H
Most
of
the
lease
requirements
probably
are
going
to
be
paired
down
again.
I
think
we're
going
to
put
together
some
training
materials,
I'm
going
to
make
some
things
available
to
the
public
as
they
start
to
register
like
I
have.
We
have
created
heather
and
I
have
worked
on
some
forms
already.
So
we
have
some
offered
up
language
for
your
leases
again.
Take
it
use
what
you
want.
Don't
it's
not
mandated
it's
to
help
postings.
We
still
want
those
postings.
F
You,
mr
chair,
when
will
we
see
the
language
because
we
need
to
study
it,
because
that
was
above
the
last
meeting
too
big
can't
read
it
at
all,
don't
understand
it!
Why
are
you
putting
all
this
stuff
in
here?
While
awareness
is
blah
blah
blah
a
million
excuses?
So
we're
going
to
need
to
see
this
document
at
least
a
week
ahead
of
time
I
will
anyway
before
I
can
do
it,
because
I
have
another
job
and
I.
H
Will
leave
some
time.
I
would
like
to
see
it
monday
or
tuesday
if
we
can
do
that.
Yes,
it's
just
all
upon
us.
They
looked
at
me
and
said
so
when
you're
gonna
have
this
done,
and
that
was
just
a
week
ago.
So
I'm
still
I
apologize.
This
is
just
all
I
need
to
get
it
done,
and
my
goal
is
to
have
that
to
you
by
july
15th,
which
is
one
week
before
your
meeting.
So
that's
my
goal.
C
H
For
the
state,
yes,
enforcement
right
so
we'll
have
what's
called
an
initial
inspection
that,
for
the
inspection
portion
of
ours,
will
still
stay
the
same
it'll
be
a
little
less
honorable.
We
won't
have
every
three
year,
but
we'll
have
an
initial
inspection
and
upon
change
of
ownership
and
upon
major
modifications.
H
Anything
else
is
going
to
be
uncomplained,
okay
and
as
for
the
state
requirements,
we're
really
just
asking
them
to
bring
as
a
part
of
your
certificate
registration
is
to
bring
me
copies
of
your
department
of
revenue,
certificate,
copies
of
your
ddpr
certificate
and
your
county
business
tax.
It
shows
me
you've
registered
with
all
appropriate
people
out
there
there
and
then
it's
up
to
them
to
do
the
enforcement
on
that
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
their
taxes.
I've
had
some
back
and
forth
on.
We
don't
need
to
get
a
department
of
revenue
sales
tax
certificate.
H
Airbnb
does
that
for
us
or
vrbo
does
that
for
us
and
they
may,
but
the
sales
tax
certificate
that
they
issue
to
that
property
is
still
yours,
whether
airbnb
did
it
for
you
or
not.
You
need
to
get
a
copy
of
it
and
there's
some
confusion
on
that,
because
people
who
have
been
doing
this
for
a
while
haven't
paid
attention
all
ages-
and
you
know
they've
been
told
you
don't
need
a
department,
you
don't
need
a
certificate
and
they
could
that
mean
they
don't
need
a
certificate.
H
It's
not
that
they
don't
need.
One
airbnb
already
got
one
for
them,
so
you
don't
need
two
certificates
for
one
property,
but
there
is
a
departmental
revenue
tax
certificate
for
each
individual
property
certified
copywork
right,
so
the
agent
can
keep
it.
They
can't
yeah
yeah
that
damn
yes,
they
just
need
a
copy
of
it.
All
I
need
is
a
copy.
You're
registered
okay,
one
more.
H
Well,
if
we
find
that
you're
not
compliant
with
any
portion,
we're
going
to
give
you
it's
going
to
be
code
enforcement
under
chapter
162,
which
is
full
on
first,
it's
a
notice
of
violation
and
come
into
compliance,
because
this
what
this
is
about-
it's
not
punitive,
it's
about
being
compliant,
so
we
always
give
them
time
to
come
into
compliance.
If
you
fail
to
have
your
24
7
person
changed
or
their
number
changed
or
something-
and
you
didn't
keep
us
up
to
date,
we
would
call
that
a
violation
come
into
compliance.
H
H
H
H
F
H
Yeah,
because
for
certain
violations,
let's
say
it's
a
noise
ordinance,
that's
probably
going
to
be
one
of
your
big
hitters.
You
do
need
the
police
to
come
out.
We
do
have
a
noise
ordinance.
We
do
need
to
prove
that
they
were
indeed
in
violation
or
noise
ordinance.
So
police
do
have
to
respond
and
take
decibel
readings,
because,
if
we're
going
to
take
this
to
special
magistrate,
we
can
take
it
from
police
reports,
as
we've
had
three
different
reports.
This.
A
H
That's
usually
used
for
abatement,
it's
not
written.
Currently.
What
we
have
within
the
nuisance
code
is
written
fairly
statutorily
for
straight
up
abatement
nuisance.
These
are
not
nuisances
and
we
can't
call
them
that
these
vacation
rentals
are
defined
by
statute,
and
we
can't
use
our
code
to
prohibit
them
in
some
way,
and
I
would
I
would
be
hesitant
to
recommend
I
recommend
we
get
whatever
regulation
the
council
and
the
city
is
okay
with
as
a
whole
and
starting
forcing
down
162..
H
I
think
it's
your
best
legal.
F
B
H
Don't
know
that
it's
done
enforceable
if
it
becomes
such
that
you
know,
there's
a
demand
on
staff
and
staff
will
make
certain
budgetary
requirements
or
certain
budgetary
improvements
in
order
to
add
staff
as
needed.
They
currently
do
it
with
alcohol
ordinance
and
we
do
it
with
the
help
of
the
police.
It's
not
just
going
to
be
our
one
enforcement
staff,
your
police.
B
Are
responding
to
parking
noise
and
a
noise
complaint
next
door
and
within
minutes
six
officers
were
there.
It
was
crazy.
I
mean
it's.
H
Really
the
officers
who
are
trained
on
those
decibel
readers
anyway,
so
they
have
to
respond
in
this
situation.
So
it's
not
just
your
one
code
enforcement
officer,
it's
a
team,
it's
your
building
official
and
your
fire
marshal
for
those
particular
issues.
It's
going
to
be
your
code
enforcement
officer
and
your
police
force
and
they'll
respond
to
certain
nuisance
requests
and
they'll
take
reports
and
those
get
used
as
evidence.
H
H
There
are
a
few
that
might
need
some
correction
up
front
and
it
becomes
not
an
ongoing
thing
it.
That
really
is
the
goal
is
to
bring
people
into
compliance,
and
I
think
that
once
the
initial
health
is
passed
and
people
come
into
compliance,
that
we
may
not
see
as
many
code
enforcement
issues
you're
going
to
have
neighbors
who
like
to
complain.
That
happens
with
grass
too.