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A
Sure
so
I
don't
know
what
everybody's
heard,
but
I
mentioned,
I
think
in
the
email
our
chairman,
recently
elected,
has
resigned
from
the
planning
commission
this
morning
has
moved
into
the
chair
position,
and
so
we
would
need
to
elect
a
new
vice
chair
and
I
think.
A
A
A
B
Okay,
under
new
business,
let
me
just
let
everyone
know
how
it
works.
The
planning
commission
meetings
are
quasi-judicial
in
nature.
All
decisions
of
the
commission
will
be
based
on
competent,
substantial
evidence,
including
testimony
provided
at
this
meeting.
B
B
Please
refrain
from
speaking
from
the
audience
and
applause
or
cheering
will
not
be
allowed,
and
please
silence
yourself.
So
with
that,
mr
copeland,
can
we
begin
with
pc
522.
C
C
Of
the
jacksonville
gland
development
code,
the
property
is
an
existing
package
store
that
has
been
there
at
least
since
1991.
The
applicant
is
requested
to
do
substantial
renovation
to
the
existing
structure.
This
would
include
enclosing
the
existing
drive
through
lane
and
converting
it
into
retail
space
as
part
of
the
main
store.
The
existing
use
of
package
sales
is
currently
a
legal
non-conforming
use,
renovations
and
repairs
are
limited
to
15
of
the
structure
per
section,
34
622
1
of
the
land
development
code.
The
proposed
expansion
would
exceed
this
amount.
C
The
granting
of
conditional
use
approval
for
the
package
sale
would
allow
the
applicant
to
renovate
the
structure
up
to
50
of
the
structures
value.
Any
work
that
would
exceed
that
amount
would
require
the
compliance
with
other
aspects
of
the
land
development
code,
such
as
addressing
parking
setbacks
or
landscaping.
C
This
would
require
variance
to
gain
relief
without
conditional
use.
Superb,
the
use
of
package
liquor
store
could
continue
as
illegal
non-conforming
use,
but
would
not
be
allowed
to
complete
the
renovation
and
substantial
maintenance
disapproval
would
not
eliminate
the
non-conforming
use.
Adjacent
uses
consist
of
retail
gasoline
sales
to
the
west.
Restaurant
used
to
be
east
warehouse
and
storage
to
the
south
and
retail
sales
to
the
north,
the
applicant's
continued
use
of
the
existing
location
would
not
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
surrounding
uses
and
based
on
provided
application
and
analysis.
B
Thank
you,
mr
probably.
As
a
reminder,
each
member
of
the
public
will
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak
when
we
open
the
public
hearing.
May
I
ask
my
fellow
commissioners:
does
any
board
member
have
any
ex
party
communications?
A
B
I'll
now
open
the
public
hearing.
Do
you
have
any
speaker
scores
he's
already
remembered?
Who
would
like
to
speak
on
the
side.
B
B
A
B
Thank
you,
sir
pc
622,
mr
pumpkin.
C
This
is
application
for
pc622
use
approval.
The
owner
is
coastal,
curations
llc
as
well
as
the
applicant.
The
property
is
located
at
604
third
street
north.
The
request
is
for
conditional
use
approval
for
an
existing
multi-family
dwelling
unit
development
located
in
the
commercial
limited
c1
zoning
district
pursuant
to
section
34,
342
d,
15
of
the
jacksonville
beach
late
development
code.
C
Subject,
property
is
currently
occupied
by
a
legal
use
of
the
multi-family
structure.
The
structure
was
likely
built
as
a
single
family
or
duplex
building
in
1939
and
was
converted
to
separate
unions
at
a
later
date.
There
has
also
been
an
addition
added
to
the
rear
early
in
the
history
of
the
structure
based
on
the
architecture
because
of
its
aims.
C
The
property
was
never
granted
conditional
use
approval
as
the
structure
creates
the
light
development
code
as
a
legal
non-performing
structure,
the
building
can
remain
and
can
be
renovated
to
an
extent,
but
if
the
structure
would
be
destroyed,
they
would
need.
Initially
support
will
be
reconstructed.
C
The
applicant
has
requested
conditional
use
approval
granted,
so
the
structure
would
then
be
conforming,
and
should
the
unforeseen
will
happen,
the
applicant
would
be
able
to
rebuild
the
structures
plan
will
be
renovated
when
it's
completed.
It'll
have
four
residential
units,
along
with
commercial
space.
On
the
first
floor,
which
has
been
historically
adjacent
uses
include
professional
medical
office,
west
retail
and
office
to
the
north
office
to
the
south
and
restaurant
and
multi-family
to
the
east.
C
A
A
So
I'm
julie,
childers.
I
don't
know
if
there
are
any
questions
on
what
we're
planning
on
doing
with
the
building,
we're
looking
to
increase,
curb
appeal
for
the
area.
I
know
it's
been
a
structure
that
has
not
been
the
most
lovely
to
look
at,
so
we
are
looking
to
add
some
curb
appeal
to
jacksonville
beach
on
third
street.
A
How
many
people
are
currently
living
in
the
one
person
an
extended
partner.
A
How
many
units
are
there?
Currently,
there
are
currently
eight
units
and
two
commercial
units
so
we're
reducing
the
density
of
the
space
as
well.
I
don't
have
any
other
questions
if
we're
reducing.
C
Yes,
yes,
and
I
think
this
isn't
like
an
oblate
floor
plan
that
is,
can't
drive
preliminary,
but
they
want
to
show
the
number
of
units
and
where
the
commercial
spaces
are,
but
when
they're
done
they
would
be
meaning.
The
minimum
of
I
want
to
say
is
700
square
feet,
but
I
don't
know:
what's
up
my
head
whatever.
A
This
is
the
one
I
was
mostly
looking
at
it's
a
three
bedroom
yeah.
It
won't
have
three
bedrooms.
I
just
the
way
we
configured
this
on
here
was
for
the
size
of
the
unit.
Only
I
haven't
worked
with
the
architect
yet
to
actually
develop
what
the
layout
is
going
to
be
of
each
of
the
units.
Okay,
okay,
those
are
three
units
of
bedrooms
right
right,
one
is
a
three
bedroom.
Well,
they
haven't.
B
C
I
think
that's
in
this
room,
so
it
would
be
helpful.
So
these
are
the
two
commercial
units
that
are
on
the
ground
floor
and
there's
one
residential
unit
in
the
rear
and
then
on.
The
second
floor
would
be
the
three
additional
residential
units
to
make
up
for
multi-family
in
the
commercial
space
downstairs,
as
the
application
said
that
this
is
not
a
conceptual
floor
plan.
This
is
really
just
to
show
that
there
are
four
units
and
two
commercial
spaces.
The
actual
configuration
there
because
of
the
non-conforming
nature
of
the
use.
B
I'll
now
open
public
hearing,
do
you
have
any
speaker
parts.
B
A
C
All
right,
this
is
application.
Pc-0722,
a
conditional
use
application.
The
owner
is
1177
3rd
street
llc.
The
applicant
is
paul
granger.
The
property
is
located
at
1177
3rd
street
south.
The
request
is
for
commissioning
use
approval
for
outdoor
restaurant
seating
at
a
new
restaurant
for
property
located
in
the
commercial
limited
c1
zoning
district
pursuit
in
section
34,
342
d20
and
the
jacksonville
beach
lane
development
code.
The
subject
property
is
currently
from
the
car
wash
facility.
The
property
is
located
on
the
corner
of
3rd
street
south
of
12th
avenue.
C
South
the
proposed
new
use
will
be
a
drive-thru
restaurant
with
outside
seating.
The
concept
does
not
have
any
indoor
seating
based
on
recent
amendments
to
the
outdoor
restaurant
area,
section
of
the
land
development
code,
the
applicant
can
now
have
up
to
50
percent
of
the
inside
cross
square
footage
for
outside
seating.
The
structure
is
proposed
at
11
100,
I'm
sorry
1
136
square
feet
with
an
outside
seating
area
of
365
square
feet.
This
is
well
within
the
50
maximum.
C
The
design
calls
for
outside
accessible
bathrooms
and
a
small
covered
seating
area
with
service
windows.
The
seating
area
will
be
fenced
with
perimeter,
walls
and
planters.
The
proposed
new
business
known
as
dick
mundell's
any
proposed
outside
music
would
fall
into
the
city's
existing
low
volume.
Music
ordinance
adjacent
uses
include
automotive
service
to
the
west
office,
uses
to
the
north
multi-family
to
the
east
and
retail
sales
to
the
south.
The
proposed
design
will
include
the
required
compatibility
buffer
between
the
multi-family
and
restaurant
use.
The
buffer
will
include
a
six
foot
fence
and
heavily
landscaped
area.
C
B
Thank
you,
mr
applicant,
would
you
please
be
sworn
in
and
give
your
presentation.
A
Nothing
but
the
truth
to
help
you
god.
Yes,
thank
you
hi
everybody,
so
we
are
the
I'm
I'm
representing
the
ownership
group,
our
tenants.
Our
users
are
here
of
gc,
two
of
the
principals
and
the
development
coordinator.
A
A
Please
raise
your
right
hand
and
get
your
name
and
address
all
right.
It's
connor,
miceli
4150
northwest
66th
street
canceled
florida
326..
Do
you
swear
for
affirmative
testimony?
You're
about
to
give
in
this
matter
is
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
about
the
truth.
A
Our
hours
right
now
in
gainesville
are
11
00
a.m,
to
9
00
pm
every
day.
We
expect
that
we'll
have
similar
hours
in
their
speech.
We
might
be
open,
10,
30
to
10
30.
A
Yes,
I
have
a
question
who
is
david
mundell?
This
is
a
fictional
character
that
we
made
up.
We
did
this
like
restaurant
project,
for
the
caa.
A
Chris
nye
who's,
my
business
partner,
good
name,
and
we
like
it
for
us,
it's
kind
of
linked
for
which
kind
of
sounds
yeah
yeah.
The
whole
thing
is,
it
was
all
built
to
sort
of
sound
established.
A
Just
out
of
curiosity,
what
type
of
food
are
you
serving?
It's
all?
It's
all
hamburgers.
We
have
a
very
small
menu.
It's
hamburgers
chicken,
burger
veggie
burger.
How
come
they
use
vegan,
and
then
we
have
some
salads
shakes
and
fries.
Nothing
else.
C
Actually
is,
and
on
here
just
having
a
hard
time
sure
I
can
just
tell
real
quickly.
So
this
is
the
main
building
house.
You
have
the
through
a
parking
area.
This
would
be
your
kind
of
ordering
window.
This
is
the
actual
seat
in
the
area.
There's
an
awning
that
kind
of
covers
it,
but
there's
a
small
area
right
there.
So
it
is
right.
Next
to
the
third
street,
though
right.
This
is.
C
B
And
is
there
anyone
from
the
audience
who
would
like
to
speak,
who
hasn't
pulled
that
apart,
we'll
take
one
after
you
speak
okay,
I'll
bring
the
public
hearing
to
a
close
and
bring
the
idea
back
to
the
board
for
the
discussion.
A
C
Do
the
sheriff
helps
we
calculate
the
parking
to
include
the
stacking
in
the
drive-through,
so
in
theory
the
number
of
cars
here
are
counted
as
part
of
their
parking
requirements.
So
in
this
case
it's
approximately
half
of
the
total
cars
that
they
would
serve.
I
don't
remember
the
exact
number,
but
I
want
to
say
it
was
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
like
eight
or
ten
cars
can
stack
inside
the
property
which,
compared
to
the
starbucks,
I
think,
is
actually
quite
a
bit
more
than
what
they
have.
C
This
has
been
through
preliminary
design,
review
with
public
works
and
beaches,
energy
and
no
one's
brought
it
up,
there's
nothing
specifically
in
our
code
requirement
that
would
require
that
separation
again,
this
is,
I
don't
know
what
extent
it's
structural,
because
we
haven't
looked
at
the
building
plans
yet,
but
I
mean
this
would
be
a
wall
of
some
sort.
I
don't
know
if
that
keep
in
mind
the
right-of-way
is
actually
out
here.
C
A
C
Yes,
so
a
couple
things
we
have
selected
a
contractor
for
the
land
development
code
and
comprehensive
plan,
update
we're
in
negotiations
now
for
fees,
so
that
will
come
back
to
city
council
in
the
near
future.
Possibly
a
council
briefing
first,
but
hopefully
we'll
hire
somebody
officially
by
the
end
of
the
month
and
start
that
process.
Hopefully
in
june
so
you'll
start
to
see
hearings
that
will
be
happening
in
the
public
sector.
C
They
will
be
doing
a
meeting
with
this
board
and
the
board
of
adjustment
to
take
input
directly
from
you
guys
as
one
of
the
sort
of
information
gathering
processes.
So
once
we
get
all
that
kind
of
officially
approved,
then
we'll
start
working
out
scheduling
for
that
stuff.
But
all
things
will
be
starting
that
process
in
june.
C
C
I'm
sorry
we'll
be
doing
the
comp
plan
first,
but
the
idea
is
to
try
and
do
them
in
a
kind
of
one-two
punch.
So
we'll
have
these
information
gathering
meetings,
which
will
you
know,
affect
both
documents,
really
trying
to
look
at
the
typical
strengths
and
weaknesses,
analysis
and
then
at
the
actual
public
hearing
and
adoption
stage.
C
As
long
as
we
have
the
complaint
revisions
that'll
come
first
and
then
the
light
development
code
after
the
expectation
is
the
comprehensive
plan
will
probably
have
less
in
the
way
of
changes,
because
we
haven't
had
as
many
issues
with
that
necessarily,
but
the
land
development
code
obviously
has
a
lot
of
inconsistencies
and
things
that
have.
You
know
changed
over
time
that
we
need
to
address,
but
yeah
it'll
be
complex.
Then
development
code
same
contractor,
yeah.
C
Was
the
idea
and
also
it'll
be
a
more
cohesive
process?
Hopefully
so
that
and
then,
because
you
guys
have
obviously
been
involved
in
the
process.
The
folks
at
adventure
lending
brought
a
proposal
to
council
with
regards
to
the
boardwalks
in
the
marsh
areas.
There's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
that
make
that
complicated.
C
They
had
asked
council
for
potential
cost
sharing
as
part
of
that,
council
really
wants
to
dig
into
that
a
little
bit
more
and
have
more
discussions,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
scheduling
a
workshop
with
council
on
just
that
subject.
So
when
that
gets
scheduled
we'll,
let
you
guys
know
so
you
can
watch
or
attend
that
as
well,
but
yeah.
It's
the
project
itself
is
still
going
to
be
a
ways
off.
C
They
have
some
flood
zone
related
issues
they
have
to
address
with
fema
before
they
can
even
get
back
to
you
guys.
So
it's
probably
in
the
months
category
right
now
before
the
actual
proposal
will
be
back,
but
they
want
to
try
and
get
council's
input
on
some
of
these
other
issues.
That
would
be
part
of
the
pv
side
of
it,
including
the
boardwalk.
So
that's
going
to
do
that,
while
they're
waiting
on
the
rest
of
it.