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C
B
B
By
Justin
Herman
all
right,
selfie
spirits
always
support
the
Constitution
will
be
the
laws
of
the
United
States
obey
the
laws
of
Units,
an
important
thing.
So
for
this
any
objection
will
be
a
circle
and
will
take
me
this
direction.
It
will
faithfully
discharge
into
the
offices
of
duties
of
the
office
alternate
member.
E
F
E
Pc
36:19
is
a
conditional
use,
application
property
owner.
It
is
fief
FC
property
acquisition,
one
LLC
P,
o
box
23
627
Jacksonville
Florida,
three,
two,
two
four
one,
the
applicant
is
kingpin
LLC
or
the
bearded
pig
2002
san
marco
boulevard,
suite
2-0
for
jacksonville
florida,
3,
2,
0,
7
and
the
property
location
is
1700
South.
Third
Street,
then
the
request
is
for
conditional
use
approval
for
outdoor
restaurant
seating
at
a
new
restaurant
for
property
located
in
a
commercial
limited
c1
zoning
district
pursuant
to
section
34
342
D
20
of
the
Jacksonville
Beach
LAN
development
code.
E
The
subject
property
is
located
on
the
west
side
of
South
third
Street,
just
south
of
16th
Avenue
South.
The
existing
structure
was
built
in
1976
and
has
historically
been
occupied
by
a
bank.
The
most
recent
bank
tenant
vacated,
the
property
in
2018.
The
property
is
under
new
ownership,
and
a
restaurant
tenant
is
preparing
to
renovate
the
property
and
building
the
tenant
was
advised
by
staff
that
conditional
use
approval
would
be
required
for
the
proposed
outdoor
seating
area.
She'll
have
a
site
plan.
Maximum
outdoor
restaurant
seating
for
this
property
is
1,500
square
feet.
E
The
tenant
is
proposing
outdoor
seating
on
the
east
side
of
the
restaurant
facing
third
Street
adjacent
uses
include
a
car
wash
to
the
north
medical
offices
and
a
church
to
the
west
commercial
uses
to
the
south,
and
you
cannot
park
in
the
Luna
to
the
east
across
3rd
Street.
The
proposed
outdoor
restaurant
seating
is
consistent
with
other
restaurants
and
should
not
negatively
impact
with
jacent
properties.
Thank.
A
You
Miss
Ireland,
just
very
briefly
briefly
for
those
that
are
in
attendance
here,
the
mayor
in
which
we
conduct
these
applications,
as
the
staff
will
read
the
application
and
if
the
record
is
Inspiral,
it
has
just
done
that
point
will
have
the
applicant
come
forward,
stating
their
name
and
address
fielding
any
additional
questions
from
the
commissioners,
providing
any
additional
information
that
presented
by
staff
at
that
point.
Element
of
Republic
I
have
speaker
cards
in
front
of
me
for
these
two
applications
this
evening.
A
F
Only
the
portion
where
those
tables
and
chairs
outside
is
actually
covered
seating.
There
that's
uncovered
out
of
image
into
our
restaurant
in
town,
it's
a
grass
as
artificial
turf
grass
area.
It's
a
player
for
children
that
would
be
partitioned
off
forever.
So
you
keep
up.
This
is
its
kind
of
difficult
waters
of
kids
can
wander
off
in
the
street,
but
it
allows
very
popular
restaurant
meeting,
a
father
I
designed
it
this
way,
because
it's
best
and
parents
go
anything
we
can
to
play.
F
Community
I
also
have
like
I,
said,
a
large
bike
parking
area
because
I'm
a
cabbie
sniffing,
it's
a
market
alone,
I
suppose
as
well
as
I
know
that
in
here
our
market
shows
we
are
believed
or
10
or
12
spaces
above
which
required
matter.
Those
are
doing
our
best
to
work.
We're
going
to
public
works
with
cohesiveness,
but
they
said
that
there's
really
no
major
issue,
that
is,
is
a
traditional
old
drainage
easements
that
we
like
most,
you
just
gave
access
to
exceed.
A
D
I
A
B
E
Pcs
3719
is
a
concept
plan
for
plat
application
owner.
Is
georgia
k
activies,
like
the
state
1103
second
time
you
North,
Jacksonville,
Beach
Florida
32250
weekend
is
new
Atlantic
builders,
5875
mining,
terrace,
suite
2:06,
jacksonville
florida
32256
in
watson
with
the
atlantic
builders
addressing
the
applicant
and
the
property
location
is
231
21st,
Avenue
South,
and
the
request
is
for
a
concept
plan
for
platform
for
a
proposed
3
watt
fee,
simple
townhouse
subdivision
located
in
a
residential.
Multiple
family
are
on
two
zoning
district
pursuant
to
section
34
5:03
of
the
Jacksonville
due
to
a
development
code.
C
J
E
Consists
of
two
planted
lots
of
Records.
The
property
has
been
developed
with
one
single
family
use
since
1967.
The
applicant
plans
to
redevelop
the
property
into
three
fee,
simple
townhouse
Lots
and
was
advised
by
staff
plan
for
flat
approval
would
be
required
in
order
to
subdivide
the
property
into
the
three
townhouse
Lots.
The
proposed
Lots
are
consistent
with
the
minimum
lot
area,
which
is
2500
square
feet
for
exterior
and
1,500
square
feet
for
interior
Lots
in
street
frontage
standards,
25
feet,
exterior
and
15
feet.
G
E
E
D
A
G
Well,
just
going
to
say
that
it
was
them
multi,
you
know
multifamily
already.
We
just
wanted
to
find
it
for
the
Planning
Commission
on
what
we
were
going
to
do
and
do
some
townhomes
that,
were
you
know,
five
to
six
hundred
thousand
dollar
range
I've
got
a
little
example
of
what
we're
doing.
We
did
this
two
blocks
over
on
19th
Avenue
South
couple,
maybe
three
years
ago,
and
it's
going
to
be
consistent
with
sort
of
a
beachy
coastal
style.
G
G
G
H
G
Did
and
I
didn't
want
to
do
that,
townhomes
that
are
across
the
street
I
Gayle
face
scale,
and
this
made
more
sense
to
face
on
Gayle,
especially
with
it
that
that
extra
depth
that
it
allowed
us.
Thank
you,
mr.
Lawson,
is
it
possible
to
flip
them
and
now
then
face
21st,
Street
I
wouldn't
be
interested
in
that.
Thank
you.
I
mean
just
one
more
point
about
that.
It
would
be
facing
the
neighbor
that
is,
you
know,
to
the
north,
so
the
back
three
units
will
be
facing
the
neighbor
to
the
north
on
his
side.
A
K
D
K
City,
first
of
all,
I'm
here
as
a
representative
of
the
property
owner
or
not
mr.
Watson,
mr.
Watson
see
applicant
and
property
owner,
mrs.
Georgia,
but
she
is
on
this
property.
For
53
years,
her
husband
Paul
of
her
built
this
house
back
in
1967
and
he's
passed.
She
is
looking
to
basically
sell
this
property
and
live
on
the
proceeds
of
the
property
and
when
she,
when
they
contacted
me,
I,
said
well.
K
The
first
thing
I
need
is
the
contact
planning
the
development
department
to
see
what
we
can
do
so
at
George's
request,
I,
conquered
planning,
build
and
staff.
Then
they
helped
me
understand
the
land
uses
underneath
and
determine
the
highest
best
use
of
the
property
by
given
that
it's
in
a
residential
multi-family
zoning
district,
which
allows
up
to
40
units
per
acre.
It's
clear
that
a
townhome
project
made
the
most
sense.
It's
three
townhomes.
K
Setback
requirements:
we
need
all
of
these
necessary
square
foot
requirements
etc
with
this
particular
design.
So,
with
that
in
mind,
I
got
the
application
read
through
it,
that
with
the
applicant
and
encourage
the
applicant
to
be
sure
to
do
everything
he
could
to
comply
with
the
concept
plat
for
plan
standards
that
are
in
the
application
and
you're
unsure,
for
maybe
with
the
standards,
but
for
the
record
I'll
go
ahead
briefly.
K
K
Plan
is
compatible
surrounding
land
uses
C.
The
concept
plan
is
adequately
designed,
so
the
general
layout
of
proposal
development
will
be
compatible,
surrounded
surrounding
land
uses
and
not
be
such
a
variance
with
other
development.
So
it's
caused
substantial
depreciation
and
property
types.
I
was
pleased.
K
Application
and
the
proposed
development
applies
to
call
the
street
frontage
standards,
etc.
The
step
further
affirmed
in
that
memorandum
that
the
proposed
development
of
townhouses
all
the
properties
consistent
with
the
development
and
the
surrounding
area.
The
these
luxury
townhomes,
as
mr.
Watson
had
mentioned,
are
going
to
be
2,100
2,000
square
feet
to
the
2500
square
feet
and
pretty
substantial
value
to
the
neighborhood.
K
D
I
A
L
G
L
Similar
to
that
it
has
okay
perfect.
Thank
you
very
much.
Pursuant
to
the
land
development
code,
34
503,
which
is
an
applicant
positive,
that
I
quote,
shall
comply
with
the
consistency
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
Unquote.
If
it
does
not,
then
it
must
be
rejected
pursuant
to
LDC
34
1
C
to
our
land.
Development
codes
must
be
a
growth
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
so.
J
L
Of
the
land
development
code,
it
also
could
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
let's
review
the
gland
development
code,
34
1,
C
9-
they
all
have
it
here
just
for
reckless,
and
because
this
is
a
public
hearing,
all
of
everything
I
say
is
back
base
future
future
development.
The
band
development
code
it
says,
must
contain
at
least
four
critical
elements
so
we'll
go
through
each
one.
First,
the
code
says
much
incurrence
most
read:
reviews
of
the
land
consistent
with
public
interest.
L
L
Avoids
overcrowding
on
DL:
it's
not
a
cul-de-sac,
it's
a
dead-end
street.
It
does
not
even
take
into
account
the
potential
future
road
design
which
connects
21st
Avenue
to
court.
Now
that,
if
you
know
21st
Avenue
actually
can
come
into
Gordon
Avenue,
but
according
to
the
applicant,
he
doesn't
want
to
go
that
way
because
he
doesn't
want
to
okay.
You
did
say
that
you
just
prefer
or
not
to
do
that.
L
Secondly,
the
code
says
development
must
quote
overcome
present
handicap
and
deal
effectively
with
future
problems.
That
may
result
from
the
you
see.
Development
land
over
adding
three
townhomes
going
into
Gale
does
nothing
to
overcome
the
present
congested
and
yeah
the
present.
The
development
has
no
plans
to
deal
effectively
with
future
problems
because
there's
no
place
to
build
roads
and
relieve
the
traffic
congestion
on
Gale,
specifically,
I
really
need
to
have
everyone
to
focus
on
Gale
Avenue
and
where
traffic
is
going
to
go.
L
Third,
the
LCC
code,
development
says
and
I
quote,
prevent
the
overcrowding
of
land.
Unquote,
we've
got
three
townhomes
coming
facing
Gale,
it's
just
the
opposite
and
as
constraint
to
what
exists
today.
That's
not
subjective,
it's
not
anecdotal!
The
fourth
one,
the
land
development
could
have
says
it
must
consider
the
stability
of
the
president
and
future
land
use.
Unquote.
L
If
you
look
at
the
traffic
transportation
map,
two
important
points
to
add
the
delivery
world,
with
Amazon
groceries
with
restaurants,
they're
all
going
to
pull
into
Gale
and
they're
all
going
to
back
out
onto
21st
navigate,
and,
let's
not
forget
these
townhouse,
they
can
be
short-term
rentals.
So
it's
not
a
minimum
of
two
cars.
It
could
be
a
minimum
of
three
cars,
so
I
would
ask
for
you
to
think
about
this
in
the
future.
Gale
havenÃt.
The
concept
plan
must
be
consistent
with,
and
this
is
not
okay.
L
It
is
also
an
opposition
to
the
public
interest.
Everybody
on
DL
Avenue,
everybody,
including
the
property
north
on
carriages
Latham's,
have
all
opposed
it.
There
have
been
five
signatures
that
say:
traffic
going
in
and
out
of
the
Gail
unbelievable
now
add
to
traffic
on
twenty
first
and
second,
so
we
respectfully
ask
that
you
deny
this
request
in
closing.
L
We
know
that
we
live
in
an
are
empty
space,
we
respect
Road
and
but
it
must
be
smart.
We
must
be
complied
with
code.
It
does
not
comply
with
the
codes
that
I
had
just
mentioned.
You
love
his
family,
she's
been
our
neighbor
and
friend
for
a
long
time.
We
wish
her
the
best.
We
hope
she
sells
a
lot
soon,
but
not
at
the
denigration
of
our
community.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Smart
Miss.
A
J
The
rationale
for
that
is
that
I
think
that
global
code
exists
in
part
to
guarantee
that
any
landowner
is
reasonably
useful
and
that
these
take
into
account
the
impact
on
the
community
back
from
the
neighborhood
system.
As
a
member
of
the
zoning
variance
board,
someone
I
appeared
some
responsibility
for
probably
the
population.
J
G
K
J
Concerned
I
don't
have
data
on
which
of
the
young
parents
and
children
and
toddlers
actually
live
in
the
neighborhood,
but
I
see
them
frequently
every
day
when
they're
not
walking
and
the
more
this,
the
traffic
gets
at
that
particular
intersection
of
21st
available
the
greater
the
likelihood
of
their
child
live
here.
I
live
directly
across
the
street
from
you
cannot
park,
and
there
are
frequently
close
calls
from
people
who
are
back
in
how
to
spaces
not
paying
attention
and
I
think
that
if
this
plan
is
approved,
it's
an
accident,
that's
waiting
to
happen.
J
I
think
that
land
development
code
guarantees
that
the
landowner
does
in
fact
have
reasonable
user
to
make
reasonable
use
of
their
property
and
I
think
that
the
prescient
code
without
exception,
allow
that
reasonable
use
that
they
could
ask
for
conditional
use
for
a
single-family
home,
but
a
very
nice
young
man
property.
They
could
also
actually
make
a
two
unit
townhouse.
It
could
be
connected,
but
not
necessarily
share
common
walls,
and
they
could
do
that
without
having
to
suddenly
buy
the
property.
J
J
A
B
So
we've
got
a
parking
issue
and
we've
got
trashed
this
you
have
issued
so
there's
a
delivery.
They
can't
get
down
the
street
so
I've
been
to
many
of
the
various
hearings
and
I
feel
that
this
is
very
similar.
This
is
a
great
piece
of
property
that
will
be
developed
into
something
very
nice
in
Jax
beach,
but
to
put
three
on
there,
with
the
reasoning
being
to
make
a
greater
profit,
doesn't
necessarily
make
it
a
better
community
and
I
think
that's
the
reason
we
ended
up
putting
on
there.
A
K
K
The
fact
that
there's
little
cul-de-sac
in
the
in
Gale
Avenue
this
is
really
something
the
City
of
Jacksonville
City
of
Jacksonville
teaches
public
works
department,
Mike
trying
to
deal
with,
as
well
as
connecting
Gordon
Avenue.
A
lot
of
people
said
that
this
doesn't
meet
the
land,
development
code
and
I've
been
advised
by
the
Planning
development
director.
Doesn't
plan
develop,
but
everyone's
ignore
is
the
zoning.
This
is
a
perfectly
acceptable
zoning
for
this
property.
In
fact,
we
chose
three
units
because
we
meet
the
requirements
for
three
units.
E
K
K
It's
better
to
have
one
neighbor
set
of
three,
and
we
are
trying
to
do
everything
we
can
within
the
code
within
the
zoning,
and
we
believe
we
met
all
those
standards
and
to
restrict
this
property
by
this
board.
Restricting
this
property
was
a
single-family
home
is
going
to
severely
jeopardize
the
value
we're
not
in
this
for
more
profit.
We're
in
this
to
try
to
help
us
back
until
you
sell
their
lot
and
build
dominance
in
the
area.
So
we
would
really
would
appreciate
your
consideration
on
that.
Thank
you.
F
C
You've
already
been
reminded
what
the
three
criteria
are
under
34
by
the
Tracy
at
this
stage
concept
plan
for
plaque,
the
only
determinations
are
consistency
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
that
ability
without
surrounding
land
uses
and
designing,
lay
out.
Your
comprehensive
plan
has
not
been
referred
to
yet
what
has
been
referred
to
is
34
1,
which
are
findings
of
the
state
commission
and
not
actual
land
development
regulations.
C
It
does
say
that
thou
shalt
do
certain
things
and
make
certain
land
development
regulations
those
are
what's
below
it,
which
include
the
RN
to
some
criteria,
as
it's
been
mentioned
for
two
permits
this
year
at
this
stage
of
the
game.
What
you
do
have
to
look
at
is
your
land
development,
a
comprehensive
plan.
C
A
K
C
Allows
for
that
aren't
you
falls
under
high-density
residential
and
that's
your
color
on
now.
That's
a
comprehensive
plan.
That's
what
you
have
to
look
at.
It's
real
high
level
at
this
stage
of
the
game.
There
are
till
still
two
more
steps
for
the
applicant
to
me
and
that
if
the
development
order,
which
is
approved
by
the
planning
that
and
building
the
director,
then
it
has
to
go
to
City
Commission
for
final
approval.
So
this
is
stage
one
of
many
phases
in
the
development
and
all
you're
allowed.
C
But
you
know
I've,
given
you
a
writer
and
you
memos
on
that.
This
is
just
as
a
quick
reminder
that
is
objective
competent
evidence
sufficiently
relevant
and
material
to
the
ultimate
determination
that
a
reasonable
mind
would
accept
has
adequate
to
support
the
conclusion.
Reach
and
substantial
evidence
is
evidence
that
provides
a
factual
basis.
Forage
of
fact
that
issue
may
reasonably
be
inferred
mere
generalized
statements
of
opposition
party.
C
Disregarding
fact-based
testimony
is
not,
in
short,
fact-based
evidence
is
real
material,
reliable,
relevant
evidence
that
tends
to
prove
the
points
that
must
be
proven
in
this
case
the
three
criteria.
It
is
more
than
emotion,
based
on
generalizations,
based
on
conjecture,
speculation
or
probabilities.
F
F
F
H
C
Whether
or
not
they
need
to
see
the
variance
is
not
appropriate
for
this
level.
Okay,
what
we
are
talking
about
is
three
criteria,
as
I
stated
again,
they're
very
high
level.
Is
it
consistent
with
your
comp
plan
based
on
the
density
intensity
allowed
on
your
comp
plan?
That's
what
the
court
tota
/?
What
is
your
competence?
A
and
the
court
reminded
us
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
change
our
laws,
who.
C
C
F
Been
a
great
coach
for
us
and
a
great
instructor
over
the
last
few
years,
and
we
do
appreciate
and
considering
the
pickle
that
the
current
situation
was
complaining
commissioned
in
I.
Think
it's
a
perfect
issue
that
we
highlighted
at
this
time
as
we
approach
another
election,
and
we
see
that
changing
some
leadership
and
have
the
opportunity
to
change
to
those.
Thank
you.
C
A
H
H
B
H
E
G
Do
you
want
to
say
something?
You
know
this
is
certainly
something
that
is
a
pickle
I
would
say
it's
a
good
work
for
it.
You
know
I'm,
certainly
sympathizing
with
the
neighbors
I
I
can
see
how
the
traffic
is
certainly
something
to
be
concerned
about
the
fact
that
I
matter
is
that
miss
mrs.
Ireland
stated
that
the
developer
could
actually
put
a
apartment
building
here,
and
you
wouldn't
be
here
today-
make
their
property
more
dense
is
still
on
the
table.