City of Laredo, Texas Animal Care Services Advisory Committee, 24 Aug 2018

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Animal Care Services Advisory Committee 082318

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We're trying to do it, update for September with doctor from this society, the coordinator or the director of the program itself of TNR, okay,.

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Like well we're gonna do the workshop through I'll be testing. He knows my name, but we're going to talk. Wer crop of hope.

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Just as soon as we have a date set understood, they're trying to get a little bit done, so we can discuss all everything on the day.

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Still don't have a date, she's she's still trying to get.

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Somewhere, you know it's just trying to get dr. Jefferson on warded, so they're trying to work with everyone's schedule to are.

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They able to be come.

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An S&M program I did do some research that can check the notice. The only 11 to counsel was an introductory ordinance which wasn't attacked to the minutes from what I found- and this was back in me, so it was it Dakota Council that was introduced. So council did approve to loop over it with the T in our program, but nothing was actually that where these was not created, and so there was no final ready to actually enforce it at that time. So that's what we can go ahead and do.

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And with tiara.

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We were brainstorming here at the shelter, so we were trying to see. I know.

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So one idea that was brought to us that we were discussing was having both a attacks and approaching the corner stores and downtown merchants, because if you can't be doing this in New York, so this is something that we wanted traitors and maybe started off that way position.

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They don't want them. We don't have full support, they don't want them in their neighborhoods, because if they go to their in their house, you know we do have to worry about attacking the yes.

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The bar network of the way we have it, the work that was she said, is that the acquisition is true allowing release of the feral cats right Angela, their.

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Neighborhoods so.

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We're even had me one before they got pens and to the right pepper in Manhattan as well, but and reach out to the ranchers. We want to reach out to all the ranchers and go to the feed stores and maybe have a have been approached when.

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You see about this issue, we.

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Get another position with calls.

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That we get with.

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The clothes that we get or attracts we do have a lot of trap requests. We.

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You know information as to what areas.

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Of yes, we howl that naughty and not mine are your shelter. Persistent. All of those comments are kept together. So we do have these elections, areas of town.

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Just wondering if it's explained to the public at large that they weren't trapped and then spayed or they'd be in that neighborhood tend to win it. Just not fair, do what they want just pick them up. Take them away.

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Well then, the part movies you're when you're doing Tehan or as an are, you were eight.

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Education right now they are doing a lot of responsible.

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Presentations, we have business presentation scheduled every week with an event, a schools, so we are.

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And I think that you know the National Organization of best friends for life or something. Then we could get some videos that we could put on the city website or link to that video or something so that cooler and you can, because you can't threw down the walls or whatever now hit everybody. You know. So you know any.

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Yes and every time every time you send out a different message, so we can't do it that way as well and then with Pat. They do work with us to do key essays that have been Arabic access, channel.

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Every week and of Education help and of course, and if they're bothering to call the city they're, looking up your number somewhere, you know some people are going to the city website or you know, information or 3 101. You know, whatever you know, method, we can get some of this educational information.

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A lot I guess I'm going to opposition to it because of the pets that are out there in our constantly reproducing is the problem you know and and I hear it. You know for my own family, you know, like my stepson lives in an apartment complex, and he says you know, there's a you know: mother cat she's pregnant. She just had four she's pregnant here. You know and that's the problem.

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You know there's people in though, in the complex, excessive feed them, but it's just the continuous reproduction that that is a bigger problem than just feeding yeah. So I think that we need to just get out public information every way.

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We can indeed question may be an awkward are options like the Scarecrow that send them in you know, whatever options you know.

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Citrus, that's weird, but yeah. That was one of the things that they tomorrow.

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Hit pendulum University in our community because some people brought that up in the group and said you know, there's people who don't want them back in their area or whatever and so on. They said what are some of the ways that we can tell them. Okay, maybe your neighbor, two houses down feeds I mean you, don't want them in your yard. So this is what you can do in your yard and so make big gamers. You know examples.

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This morning, this client her mama cat she's, having kitties out there. She caught her three kittens that she had brought them in her house. She has two cats: a runner over ten years old she's, been feeding these kitties and keep it on the table that mom come trying to get along with calm down the house that mom.

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The three kitties ten she'd had homes for two of the cuties, the third one she was working on. She bought mama cat gets paid a deposit and her ten year old cats been in the house with his kids lovely ten years, older, quite not likely to get it. She has kept him awake, some they were, she was devastated, she put them all down. Her I told her. It was her choice, the mama cat for sure, because she can't go back back, expose the kitties live inside if they give them to somebody.

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That knows that they have a problem, keeping up to date over vaccines, to keep them away from everything else and keep them indoors. Only.

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Their immune systems compromised so then did they get infection and peritonitis and they'll crawl. Some Bush and died three or four days later, a few spindly to spay neuter and you could have spent that money on a healthy animal. That's.

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Why our service.

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You think of a person was looking in the end they're having to wear masks. They can't go out with public certain places, because the disease itself isn't compromised disease. Okay, so it causes you to not be able to fight off normal infection. So dr. white ever has feline AIDS, never feel any keenya I, don't I'm young, older I'm, gonna fight out for cold she's, not gonna, find out.

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For cold the same, what is having a uterus or testicles have to do with it's.

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The incision and getting bacteria yeah.

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So like doing surgery on a healthy young person versus during the finest hour surgery on a sixty to seventy year old person, okay, we went with it.

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Only it's not that yes, so.

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That's the reason for testing, because if you, if you put a disease.

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Putting a sick cat that could potentially get worse once you do the surgery and then we're killing it anyway. That's worse,.

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It's not that we want to.

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It is heartbreaking. It is heartbreaking to see this. It.

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Is heartbreaking so you're a big advocate that we need the tester needs to quit.

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Perpetuating the disease we do get spread.

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And, what's the rationale for not nice.

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So if you have a 100 cats out there goal, if it's positive you're not going to stay, so you actually save money, and it's not. Why we're doing it not to save money, but if you have the money to spare Thundercats you're, only going to end up staying at best, 50, probably 30%, oh and I'm, going to use pork Maxwell's. A perfect example for math school is a community of about 500 people. It's out way out the middle of nowhere on the coast that we're live.

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There were hundreds right that look, they did it cost a thousand cats. A thousand cats is just an attribute. They were everywhere. People were complaining of euthanizing. This isn't the valley, the valley, shelter did this then double euthanizing, probably 70, to 80% of those cats and release the other remaining 200, which are perfectly healthy, they're, not competing for rats and mice and food they and their.

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So the people that are anti putting them down are mainly alley cats and they provide a lot of funding for the TNR alley. Cats does not want to size any Cathy.

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Be no cap should.

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Be put down the problem is there are people that sing for their heart, and that is great. We need those people, but when it comes to eating me, the people.

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That see these.

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Animals suffers: are the people like us at sea when you bring them in y'all, try out new the release of healthy cat out of sight out of mind, we're the ones that see an amorous have a horrible horrible disease suffering? And then you see there are kitties. Goofy is suffering they can't even breathe because their noses are clogged up.

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It's just not a nice, not a nice thing for.

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This, what's your feeling time, there is their argument against. We.

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Discussed that at one of our workshops, you.

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Think that if we have this workshop of the TNR, that's what best friends for life and some of their friends will we'll talk about it. Also that city, the city and community community era, all of it. What Gordon, Mansfield 80% of the cats are sick with it. It makes sense. But if that's not a huge, huge problem in your community, then what best friends for life? And now the cats analyze say is look.

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You know the idea is to stop overpopulation and if we don't have a huge prevalence and that disease and then just you know, our funds are so much and we're going to spend thirty forty dollars to test just to test. When it's going to cost you maybe for grounders, to also spay neuter, then you.

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Know we're doing donate the test.

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That's an option for us in our communities, but it depends. You know it's like she says. Hormats won't have a huge problem with it.

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You figure out the right route right. So when your floods are limited, the question you know for any community comes okay. What's the best way for my money, if you know you've got unlimited funds or someone's willing to donate the testing will drink. Maybe that's not gonna be an issue that, but that's what I don't like at some pets, allies and best friend society feel you know, but there's every community has to make their decision based on their needs and.

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Basically, that's the only thing that the workshop or the conference or it's just then give those samples of.

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Different teas, the problem has worked for them and and if they're there probably is overpopulation and that's what they're trying to control versus.

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They're already tested.

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Yeah, we have one, and we and I was from the city and because.

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Though we kissed, so we so she was adopted and she's the only time, but we.

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Was positive, so we kind of gave her a second.

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Robin are including vaccinated.

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The the trainers from there we don't have any.

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So I mean I hate to waste those trailers and then.

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Suddenly, you put them to use and one of the trainers at East.

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And we do have our social media crew as well. So that's nowhere near oh yeah, because.

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It was almost a weekly occurrence.

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What is it isn't just in the city, but.

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We weren't too.

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And even though you have a washer and dryer right now, the word of futuristic merkel, washer and dryer. We are gonna, be using funds from our fun.

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Our veterinary services for the shelter we continue to work with jump through night liquor. Last week it was next week last week she was able to go.

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Was able to see it in years in just a few hours, so that was really impressive and we're very grateful for services twice a month.

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Hopefully, hopefully Bethany we're trying hard, so the two of us can be at the office so she can come every winter. One of the three of us will like take turns coming in for dinner and.

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On that note, since you said that veterinary services council did approve.

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And you took the salary that y'all paid dr. Farina's salary, not including equipment.

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We spent a hundred thousand, probably right. Yeah I did not include that hundred thousand dollars. Okay, I just took the set, were sound and dividing the number of spays and neuters that she did. You paid 400 $500 per spay/neuter that she did here. Having said that,.

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I guess what I'm asking also? How much is it costing the city to contract out for just.

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Losing money at that it is cheaper for me for you to harvest hearing, okay I'm, going to tell you that right off the bat but I'm. Also a taxpayer like that I think everybody in this room is and I'm looking at from a taxpayer and I. Unfortunately, I wish the other clinics would jump in on board. You.

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Know that you know that's.

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What we did when I was in college station at that time in a while there's a veteran who take tournaments- and there was a bunch of us we gon, take- turns.

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Why would they give their time it's up to my passion, just like it all of us in here? It's our passion, it's my passion, I'm a guy and it's her to achieve actually working harder than on me to come over and spend the day here to do it and I was wore out understand.

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Myself, I don't got it at all, you're, wonderful! On this stuff, I look at. We have a hospital. At any moment. We have like 500 patients here.

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It's not it's not what I do because I like okay.

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You can't even find people to come down to work here, much less, no.

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That's true, we know we need to go with this for now, I just long term. You say the end of the year at the end of the fiscal year in September 30th. Just the ideal, of course, is to have someone in-house it's going to stay six months.

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Mm-Hmm, when I'm 18 and a myriad times.

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Would you be looking for a full-time permanent dermnet? It would.

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Have to be the recommendations of the committee and I.

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I think personally,.

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I think if somebody wanted to come down and we could swing a lot of moms.

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Do it back you.

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Know I feel like on the bottom I.

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Two different, like gathering of veterinarians, I, want to try to like get students to come down and then.

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Curl or yellow even.

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Burrito kids that are in veterinary, so.

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They don't want to know.

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Takes a special person tomorrow: I love, it I, don't know anywhere else, but but that's the hard part things I've told her, because we had I have a lot of passion for soldier medicine too. There are clubs at the University at am we ever get a vet school at Texas Tech? If that ever happens, they they would be willing to come down as long as the veterinarian.

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Supervise the students they would do all the space and new version. We would have clubs, that would you know third and fourth, your veterinary students. That would come and they just want the practice.

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In fact, that was my.

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It was my ideal they'd built that bedroom that we have over there to have rooms and I'd actually have contacts to get veterinarian's down here with a rotation that school where they have.

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Sent two weeks and literally all.

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They do and I've got ax my feet hurt. It feels like no, no we're going to do and y'all higher doctoring. Previous and y'all did all that, and so you.

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My contacts are now I'm on because dr. postseasons, now the entire he's not there. This is the main guy to get it helps get it started.

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That I had our talk.

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On the board of.

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Directors second go-around: if you will for the Texas Veterinary Medical Association, so I have a contact but I don't know start.

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Do this, I I don't want to get into something you know and then you know kind of get stopped, yeah exactly.

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We do a whole rotation as a required rotation in your fourth year of Veterinary Medicine, where you do shelter medicine. We go to Houston SPCA for two weeks and we all take turns doing treatment. Triage students are there for the whole week. Then you treat me to triage. When the animals are brought in and give the vaccines, then we do the test cuz. We need to practice drawing blood and this stuff whatever and the students are also the ones another group is doing space engineers all day long.

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So that's the stuff that we need to practice on when the written in our residency here before we go.

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Say: look we're going to fund, you know you're staying here or whatever it is, or maybe there's a retired. That's who.

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I been so lyric I told her.

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He would come and supervise those in a heartbeat.

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Is second for their bones?.

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Alternatives, you know, submit your bid, and these this is. These are the things that the city would be willing to consider a b c d, whether.

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You want to come once.

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Week, whether you want to come every two weeks, whether you wanted to you know whether you're a program that wants to bring students for two weeks at a time and and and in that way to give them break as well. But we do need somebody. We need some animal senator. We need somebody here.

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I'm trying to come at least you know if every veterinary had dr. martens.

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The two of us, and maybe even the next week, are so there's ten people. You know if everybody one.

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No- and there is a program- if so many Laredos in it, I already applied for a record for the whole state, Mariah I have been putting in through the Texas Animal Health Commission. They have a program. Statewide four areas are shortage of veterinarians, they get their whole tuition, pays.

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You talk to people, her parents were scared to death. A doctor daughter was down here in the wars, although they.

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She was here that the people will be shooting guns on the street college stuff, and so she said no, no, you know where they live to Houston.

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Especially the rail in the valley.

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You know I think one neighbors complain there soon, there's people that are feeding the animals.

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Yeah like to see put some of these complaints are in what areas also I.

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Gave an update of the recommendation, the doctor or linebacker asked about the vintage.

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People come in we'll try to help them out with discounts and stuff, so they can lease get the feral cats.

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A date of the g27.

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Have an update on what areas, either through public access link on the cities or the shelters website, and a sender that can look into whether the BFFL or another organization we capture. Somebody could provide a link to.

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John this dog killed, Jerry Jones's, show animals or man's or whatever they put down. They don't.

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Tell them they're dangerous and in just that's what they're doing they're putting it down. That's if they bother picking them up, which is about less than 1% of what the problem is and maybe thought you deal with the loose cattle with horses and that's about it, they're pretty much not doing its name. The.

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Poem is the city you.

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Know illegally.

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The apparently, then we're allowed to have one pet I, even told the city I said: I will give three rabies shots, so they can.

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Single person at one of the housing coming to me yet alright.

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We've been getting was.

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You spy go yes, yeah.

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Though policy yeah.

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Yes, changing back to living.

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Receiving calls as well asking.

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Recent Jews a reason, and we had a client last week and they live not too far from Gail in Springfield dog in the law. But we don't even know that the dog snakes dead it was gave the dog he paid to have gave it all about 48 hours on IDs, and we just know.

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There's something that people in housing in the city because of the shelter doctor, let's say, look we'll give you an.

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To see anybody, but.

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Of the city burrito sort of it's a separate anything, but it's really sponsored by the city, maybe there's a way that you could work out something instead of surrendering them. Yet.

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If you know, spay/neuter and people have exhibitions as we.

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Do there's an interface magic, any counsel and.

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Then, of course, there should be something in there. Confidence is a it's an animal regardless it's a cat or dog or whatever you keep it inside, because they don't have your.

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Section eight: they have homes that can rent, but most of them are places like some of those housing units and they don't have their own.

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Little area but.

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Something in their contract, it says: look you're allowed to keep an animal based on whatever one you have to expand. You tur, you have to give us proof for that, and you have to as part of your conference and in the animal state within your property and indoors and keep it thoughtfully exactly. We keep that up and the city somehow says okay. Well, when we need your contract again, you know.