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From YouTube: Laredo Board of Adjustment Meeting, 07/10/2019
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The Laredo Board of Adjustment Meeting of July 10, 2019 was held at the Laredo City Hall Council Chambers located at 1110 Houston St. at 12:00 p.m.
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And
I've
set
a
timer
for
15
minutes
I'll,
try
to
stick
to
that
as
promised
we're
going
to
have
a
little
training
session.
What
this
is
really
is
an
opportunity
to
show
you
what
our
plan
is
to
give
you
a
training
at
greater
length.
In
another
time,
however,
I
do
have
a
brief
preview
of
some
of
the
material
were
that
we're
gonna
be
going
over
in
these
trainings
to
start
the
discussion
and
to
start
the
journey
off.
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C
So
why
are
we
doing
this
training
new
more
bit
new
board
members
need
orientation.
How
many
of
you
are
new,
we'll
consider
yourself
a
new
board
member
a
couple,
and
what
do
you
consider
due
within
the
last
year
been
appointed?
Did
you
receive
any
training
or
any
orientation?
No
okay?
Well,
we
need
to
give
you
that
we
need
to
go
over
some
things
now,
for
those
of
you
who
are
more
experienced
I
strongly
believe
you
can
teach
an
old
dog
new
tricks,
so
you.
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C
There's
always
extension
exactly
exactly
they.
The
City
Council,
originally
City
Council's
they've
been
around
for
hundreds
of
years
City
the
idea
of
a
City
Council
when
they
adopted
planning
and
zoning
in
the
1930s
in
the
United
States.
They
started
having
Planning
Commission's,
but
they
quickly
realized
that
you
couldn't
anticipate
everything
with
your
rules.
You
have
to
have
a
way
for
there
be
appeals,
and
you
want
to
remove
that
from
the
politics,
and
so
a
body
separate
from
Planning
Commission
separate
the
City
Council
is
designated
to
be
an
appeal
process
for
special
and
unusual
circumstances.
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Now
the
structure
of
this
training,
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
go
over
not
this
is
not.
Today.
This
is
at
a
future
date.
We
want
to
go
over
the
state
and
local
regulations
governing
board
of
adjustments.
We
want
to
talk
about
Roberts
rule
of
orders,
that's
always
good
to
review.
Why
we
do
that
and
how
it's
done.
We'd
also
like
to
talk
about
ethical
guidelines,
conflicts
of
interest,
communications
with
without
the
application
people
who
submit
applications
or
council
members
or
Commission
members.
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We
also
want
to
go
through
some
examples
of
cases
with
your
real
cases
that
have
been
done
in
the
past
in
this
meeting.
I
understand,
sometimes
it's
a
little
challenging.
Maybe
you
want
to
ask
more
questions,
but
you
don't
take
too
much
time.
Maybe
you
want
to
ask
question
but
you're
afraid
sounds
too
dumb,
I'm
one
who
firmly
believes
there
are
no
dumb
questions,
because
I
ask
a
lot
of
them
myself.
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We
thought
about
having
it
as
a
meeting
that
we'd
have
to
call,
but
then
what
if
everybody
could
make
it-
and
maybe
we
could
do
two,
but
even
then,
what
if
somebody
could
make
it
we're
gonna,
try
a
different
approach:
we're
gonna
contact
each
of
you
over
the
next.
It
was
in
the
next
week
or
two
Fernando
is
gonna,
be
tasked
with
that
we're
gonna
schedule
a
training
that
works
for
you.
If
that's
Tuesday
evening
at
10:00
p.m.
or
Saturday
morning,
at
10:00
a.m.
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But
I
anticipate
that
we
fit
into
your
schedule,
so
these
would
really
be
one
at
most.
Maybe
a
couple
of
you
could
kind
of
time
together,
but
well
we'll
work
with
you.
Fernando
will
contact
each
of
you
and
figure
out
what's
best
for
your
schedule
within
the
next
six
weeks
and
then
in
the
future
we
can
do
trainings,
maybe
once
a
year,
maybe
do
those
more
formally
and
then
anybody
that's
new.
C
We
give
them
an
orientation
like
this,
so
we
can
shorten
the
future
trains
because
we're
doing
an
actual
training
orientation
in
the
next
six
weeks.
Now
little
training
preview
will
go
over
some
important
things.
We
won't
go
in
depth
today.
What
is
the
Board
of
Adjustment?
It's
officially
called
the
board
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Adjustment.
It's
a
sovereign
board.
You
have
final
authority
on
these
appeals.
Somebody
doesn't
like
what
you
say.
C
Their
option
is
not
City
Council
their
option
after
that
would
be
to
appeal
to
a
district
court
to
actually
take
it
legally
somewhere
somewhere
else.
So
as
far
as
the
city
is
concerned,
you're
the
final
authority
on
these
appeal
cases.
Now
the
purpose
of
this,
as
we
spoke
about,
was
so
that
there
is
a
process
for
Appeals
when
there
are
unusual
circumstances
or
other
cases
we'll
discuss,
but
it
basically
breaks
down
into
two
areas:
administrative
appeals
and
sub
sensitive
appeals.
Administrative
appeals
are
very
clear.
The
staff
has
made
a
mistake,
we're
not
perfect.
C
Sometimes
that
happens.
Sometimes
we
might
give
wrong
information
or
approve
something,
and
if
an
application
application
can
demonstrate
that
we
have
given
them
wrong
information,
an
email
or
in
a
communication
that
they've
made
an
investment
based
on
that
wrong
communication
that
wrong
information
or
a
wrong
decision
that
staff
has
made,
and
it
would
be
unfair
for
us
to
Pegman
to
the
same
standard.
So
we
have
an
appeal
process
where
they
can
hear
that.
Now
we
hear
that
all
the
time.
Oh
you
told
us
this.
C
You
told
us
that
that's
why
we
say
it
has
to
be
documented
because
we're
very
careful
about
what
we
communicate.
We
don't
just
tell
people
what
what
they
can
do
very
well,
it's
very
important
for
us
to
know
the
rules
in
to
to
deliver
those
rules
correctly.
So
we
it
has
to
go
through
a
formal
process
where
they
would
claim
that
they've
been
given
wrong.
Information
is
demonstrate
that
the
burden
of
proof
is
on
them.
C
These
are
where
permitting
the
reconstruction
of
a
damaged
or
non-conforming
building.
So
maybe
there's
an
act
of
God.
Some
of
these
building
is
destroyed.
They
want
to
rebuild
it
and
they'd
have
to
demonstrate
that
they're
rebuilding
it
the
way
it
was
before,
and
sometimes
that's
really
a
minimal
rare
case
that
happens.
The
majority
of
subs
and
cases
are
where
someone's
asking
to
vary,
the
setback,
the
height
the
distance
requirements,
something
about
the
land
use
development
code
requirements.
C
These
variances
should
only
be
granted
in
peculiar
and
unusual
circumstances
where
a
hardship
is
being
created,
let's
very
quickly
review.
What
that
means
is
a
hardship
created.
Hardships
cannot
be
personal,
they
have
to
be
based
on
the
property.
In
other
words,
if
somebody
comes
here
and
says
all
the
rules,
you
have
four
four
four
building
requirements.
The
materials
I
have
to
use
I
can't
afford
that
I'm
really
struggling
with
my
bills,
I'm
on
a
fixed
income.
C
All
those
things
have
nothing
to
do
with
the
actual
rules,
where
you're
allowed
to
give
a
variance,
you're
not
allowed
to
give
a
variance,
because
you
feel
sorry
for
somebody
you
may
want
to.
You-
may
really
want
to
its
staff.
We
feel
the
same
way
when
somebody
has
instructor
is
struggling
financially.
We
feel
bad
for
them,
but
the
rules
do
not
allow
us
to
change
the
rules
for
them
because
they
have
personal
circumstances.
These
unusual
circumstances
have
to
be
related
to
the
property,
not
the
individual,
not
the
individuals,
financial
circumstances.
C
Couple
common
examples
would
be
lots
with
steep
slopes
where
there
are
lots,
not
developable
because
of
certain
configurations,
or
they
have
an
irregular
shaped
lot.
Now,
it's
very
important
to
understand
that
these
hardships
cannot
be
created
at
the
county.
Where
lots
are
recorded,
you
can
record
any
lie.
You
could
you
could
shave
off
a
square
foot
of
your
backyard
and
recorded
at
the
county
and
they
were
reported
no
problem
now
that
was
an
illegally
subdivided
block,
but
they'll
still
report
it.
C
So,
in
other
words,
somebody
could
shave
off
a
weird-shaped
lot
and
sell
it
to
their
neighbor.
Now
their
neighbor
wants
to
develop
on
that
property.
They're
gonna
claim
oh
well.
This
is
I,
don't
fit
that
no.
That
was
their
fault
for
not
not
doing
due
diligence
and
making
sure
that
that
was
a
legal
subdivision
through
the
city's
rules.
Now
sometimes
that
happened
many
decades
ago
and
in
those
circumstances
that's
something
we
should
look
at
as
a
board
of
a
justment
as
a
body.
But
oftentimes
people
create
hardships
on
themselves
and
that's
something.
C
Hardships
have
to
be
unique
to
the
property.
So
an
example
remember
we
talked
about
steep
slopes.
Well,
what?
If
the
whole
neighborhood
has
steep
slopes
and
the
reason
the
city
put
some
slope
guidelines
in
was
because
they
don't
want
to
adversely
affect
the
neighborhood
or
spillover
or
whatever.
That
would
not
be
a
circumstance
where
it's
unusual
to
that
property,
because
the
steep
slopes
applied
to
the
whole
neighborhood,
where
the
rules
were
put
in
place
so
that
there's
safe
and
orderly
development.
So
we
need
to
look
at
not
just
the
property,
but
the
surrounding
neighbors.
C
The
surrounding
and
really
ask
the
question:
is
this
a
unique
hardship?
Is
this
a
unique
circumstance
and
that's
why
we
should
be
granting
a
variance
and
other
examples
at
the
city?
The
city's
regulation
alone
can't
be
the
hardship,
for
example,
if
an
applicant
requests
the
height
variance,
claiming
that
the
height
restriction
constitutes
a
hardship
it
can't
be.
In
other
words,
if
somebody
says
well,
I
can't
build
with
these
height
restrictions.
I
can't
do
that
that
you
know
we
won't
work
on
my
property,
but
the
high
restrictions
are
something
that
covered
the
entire
city.
C
That
would
not
be
a
unique
hardship
for
that
property
because
the
rule
is
applied
to
everyone
everybody's
properties.
Equally,
basically,
what
you're
trying
to
determine
with
a
hardship
is,
does
that
person
still
have
reasonable
use
of
their
property
now,
just
because
the
rules
of
the
city
make
they're
eliminate
some
of
their
uses
or
make
the
development
of
their
property
more
expensive,
that
doesn't
mean
they
don't
have
reasonable
use
left.
In
other
words,
we
have
rules
in
place
that
apply
to
everybody
about
setbacks.
C
Those
are
across
the
board
in
some
places,
they're
a
little
different,
but
but
they're
there
now
we
would
be
people
could
get
more
money
for
their
property
if
they
can
develop
the
whole
thing,
but
that's
not
a
hardship
that
the
city
restricts
some
amount
of
development
that
is
allowed.
The
city
is
allowed,
in
other
words,
the
citizens
of
the
city
are
allowed
to
gather
agree
to
some
restrictions
on
property,
even
though
that
decreases
the
value
of
the
property
to
some
degree.
What
a
reasonable.
C
Property
is
not
left
with
no
reasonable
use
because
regulations
limit
the
size
or
design
of
the
structure
or
make
it
more
expensive
to
build
in
general.
The
fact
that
a
regulation
reduces
the
potential
profitability
of
an
otherwise
developable
commercial
or
residential
property
does
not
constitute
a
lack
of
reasonable
use.
So
when
you're
trying
to
determine
if
they
truly
have
a
hardship,
you
should
be
asking
yourself
about
this
property
is:
can
it
still
be
used
reasonably
and
they
still,
if
it's
a
single-family
residence
and
they
want
to
expand
it
in
a
way?
That's
illegal?
C
Do
they
still?
Can
they
still
use
it
as
a
single-family
property
and
they
still
have
the
things
that
are
associated
with
a
single-family
property,
a
home
and
some
living
space?
Sure
they
might
want
to
make
it
bigger,
but
can
they
still
use
it
as
a
single-family
home?
Now,
if
the
rules
affected
the
property
in
such
a
way
that
they
can't,
they
can't
use
it
in
a
way
that
would
be
reasonable,
then
that's,
that's
a
valid
reason
that
the
board
should
be
considering
a
variance
to
give
them
reason
to
produce.
C
One
thing
I
want
to
say
about
processing
board
of
applications
right
now.
The
way
that
the
so
this
the
Texas
State
Code,
gives
the
Board
of
Adjustment
the
ability
to
create
some
guidelines
about
how
applications
are
received
and
how
things
are
processed
and
the
rules.
When
you
me,
how
often
you
mean
those
things
are
up
to
you
and
staff.
We
might
give
you
ideas
or
ask
things
about
those
things.
It's
ultimately
up
to
you
to
decide
that
right
now
the
guidelines
are
very
unclear
for
for
staff.
C
In
other
words,
somebody
comes
from
an
application,
even
though
it
it's
clearly
not
something
that
would
warn
the
variance
the
guidelines
that
in
other
cities,
they
have
given
staff
to
say
no,
here's
a
checkbox,
they
should
follow
and
they
should
meet
these
guidelines
and
then
we'll
hear
it.
Laredo
hasn't
done
that.
So
what
you're
doing
is
you're
hearing
all
applications
of
anybody
that
says
no,
no
I
I
know
it
doesn't
really
fit.
C
But
I
want
to
ask
anyway
because
I,
because
things
are
financially
tough
for
me
right
now
and
because
in
the
past
the
process
has
been
misused.
I
think
word
has
gotten
out
that
hey
this
is
if
it
didn't
work,
if
I
can't
get
my
building
permit,
you
know,
Board
of
Adjustment
just
seems
to
be
granting.
You
know
you
can
give
a
good
story
and
that's
what
I've
heard
out
there
and
in
other
cities
they've
given
guidelines
where
applicants
know
these
are
the
categories
for
what
Board
of
Adjustment
is
willing
to
hear.
C
There
are
a
few
ways
we
could
do
that
if
you're
wanting
to
do
that,
let's
have
the
discussion
and
we
can
propose
some
things
that
you
would
then
vote
on
and
city
council
as
well,
and
that
would
allow
you
to
not
have
to
spend
the
time
going
through
things
that
are
clearly
not
warrant
in
your
time
now.
I
want
to
just
say
one
quick
thing
about
staff:
this
is
a
picture
of
our
staff
in
the
middle
is
hey-zeus.
C
He
just
became
a
citizen
last
week,
so
we
had
a
little
celebration
for
him
and
we
have
a
great
team
I'm
really
impressed
with
the
staff
we
have
now
we
need
more
staff
I'm
working
on
that,
because
we're
really
really
pushed
with
all
the
stuff.
We
have
but
I'm
really
impressed
with
with
the
capability
and
the
expertise
of
our
staff,
so
that
was
a
great
example
of
that.
It's
20
years
with
the
city
he's
an
expert.
He
is
the
expert
on
land
use
development
code
of
laredo.
C
Nobody
in
the
world
knows
more
about
it
than
him
and
I'm
grateful
to
have
such
a
great
staff.
I
want
you
to
know
that
we
are
in
biased.
We
run
political
and
the
recommendations.
We
give
you
our
based
on
best
practices.
I
didn't
come
here
with
any
friends
I'm
hoping
to
make
something,
but
I
don't
know
anybody
any
favors
I'm
not
trying
to
make
anybody.
Happy.
I
took
this
job
to
be
the
best
city
planning
director.
That
I
can
be
that's
important
to
me.
C
It
means
a
lot
so
the
recommendations
I
give
to
you,
the
trains
I
give
to
you
they're,
not
to
advantage
any
particular
group
or
any
particular
person
and
I
hope.
You
can
trust
that
that
as
staff,
the
way
that
we're
going
to
work.
If
we
give
a
recommendation,
it's
not
coming
because
somebody
pressured
us
management
or
City
Council,
we're
giving
you
our
professional
opinion.
Our
city
planners,
unbiased
employer,
do
you
have
any
questions.
I
have.
F
D
C
C
So
it
would
be
a
process
to
change
it,
but
essentially
you
would
have
to
feel
comfortable
with
these
changes
and
what
we
would
be
doing
is
we're
not
taking
any
authority
from
you
we're
just
taking
out
the
clear
situations
where
this
does
not
warrant,
and
we
would
write
that
together
of
what
you
feel
comfortable
and
it
would
be
based
on
the
what
the
guidelines
that
texas
state
code
allows
and
that
other
cities
have
done,
and
then
that
would
filter
out
the
things
that
are
clearly
not
allowed.
A
variance.
D
C
We
need
a
little
time
in
this
process.
Again,
we'll
be
quick
cuz,
it's
got
to
go
through
you
and
then
City
Council,
and
then
you
know
that
takes
time,
but
what
I
would
be
giving
to
you
is
some
recommendations
and
then
we
could
have
a
discussion.
Maybe
we
go
back
and
change
it
great.
We
wouldn't
move
on
anything
till
you
feel
comfortable.
Some.
D
Of
the
issues
that
I
think
also
to
the
community
is
like,
if
they
actually
go
through
the
application
process
for
the
with
a
case,
it's
clearly
gonna
be
denied.
You
know
the
expenditure
of
time
and
money.
This
can
also
save
the
community
some
money
when
situations
like
this
take
place.
So
that's
what
I
think
that
kind
of,
if
staff
could
make
that
kind
of
recommendation.
D
F
D
C
Right
and
one
last
coming,
I'll
make
it
that's
one
of
these
proposals.
One
thing
we'll
make
is,
as
a
proposal
to
you
is
we'll,
have
the
cost
of
the
application
for
adjustment
application.
We'll
look
at
that
and
we'll
have
it
reflect
the
true
cost
of
the
staff
time
in
most
cities
to
do
a
Board
of
Adjustment
application
is
closer
to
a
thousand
dollars,
because
that
reflects
the
actual
time
that
takes
staff
to
go
through
all
this
now.
C
Other
cities
also
provide
a
scholarship
form
of
idea
where
somebody
that
can't
pay
that
it's
not
limited
to
doing
a
Board
of
Adjustment
cuz,
they
can't
pay,
but
you
know
there's
a
way
for
somebody
who
financially
can't
afford
to
do
it.
We
give
them
an
avenue,
but
when
you
have
a
Board
of
Adjustment,
that
is
not
reflecting
the
true
cost
of
staff
time
we
spend
hours
and
hours
developing
this,
and
what
that
does.
Is
it
incentivizes
people?
Oh
well,
I'll,
take
the
chance.
It's
only
a
couple
hundred
bucks,
so
I'll
see
if
I
can
get.
B
D
A
And
second
of
all,
those
in
favor
all
right
motion
carries
okay.
We
have
a
request
submitted
by
the
Texas
Court
Texas
Court
distribution
center,
to
authorize
an
exception
to
the
literal
interpretation
of
the
little
dental
event
code,
section,
24-10,
seven
entitled
dimensional
standards
by
granting
a
variance
to
the
setback
requirements
on
lot.
Ten
block
three
international
trade
base,
one
located
at
142,
Sarah,
Nikita,
Luke;
okay,
they
want
to
speak
in
favor
of
this.
H
G
H
G
Damnit
before
I
continue,
I
would
like
to
say
that
before
we
entertained
this
idea,
we
didn't
and
I
normally
and
I've,
been
doing
it
for
thirty
years,
I've
been
in
business
for
thirty
years
in
this
community
building,
mostly
industrial
buildings,
but
before
I.
Do
anything
I'd
like
to
go
to
the
flam
reviewer
and
explain
our
idea
or
concept
because
it's
you
know,
we
don't
want
to
find
it
ourselves
in
a
situation
like
this
with
controversy.
H
G
A
E
G
It
when
we
would
be
encroaching
this
expansion
by
part
OFI,
so
we
figured
we
gotta
go
to
this
department
and
ask
questions
before
we
design
go
through
the
expense
of
the
water.
Doing
all
this,
you
know
well
not
more
more
and
more
Dept,
the
one
complete
set
of
drawings
before
we
can
we
can
submit
for
for
the
permit
application.
G
G
G
Then
he
comes
around
and
said:
look
you
know
I'm
ready
to
continue
with
the
with
the
expansion.
Great
news
department
said
no
problem,
we
move
forward,
and
now
we
have
a
new
plan
examine
the
new
plan.
Examiner
says:
look
you
know.
I
was
not
privy
to
this.
We
were
obviously
encroaching
in
a
setback,
and
we
explained
the
reasoning.
This
is
a
series
of
lots.
The
front
of
the
building
is
the
front
of
the
building.
It's
really
what.
B
E
B
B
E
J
Original
warehouse
was
built
on
two
logs
right
with
the
front
facing
the
other
Street
lucky.
Let
my
team
that
okay
and
it's
a
close
to
a
78,000
square
foot
warehouse.
Then
we
have
a
space
on
the
back
of
our
warehouse
of
our
existing
warehouse
that
we
want
to
take
advantage
of
and
build
an
additional
close
to.
7500
is.
J
A
B
A
E
J
See
we
have
a
setback
of
more
than
what
we
need,
because
we
have
the
parking
lot
for
our
employees
and
customers?
Yes,
sir,
so
actually,
when
we
built
the
warehouse,
as
you
see
there,
we
left
all
that
space
at
the
front.
We
didn't
go
all
the
way
back
at
that
time,
because
we
did
not
need
the
space
now
we're
needing
the
additional
space,
which
is
basically
four
more
doors.
We
actually
have
right
now,
31
doors.
J
We
want
to
go
up
to
35
doors,
which
is
just
an
additional
10%,
more
of
the
warehouse
to
use
up
all
the
space
that
we
have
on
that
on
those
two
lots.
Now
we
have
a
trailer
parking
on
over
here
this
this
area
or
maybe
close
to
150
trailers,
but
we
need
additional
space
to
do
with
the
park.
Trailers
on
them
on
the
side
of
the
warehouse
did
to
do
more
off
loading
and
loading
we
need.
J
We
need
four
more
doors
right
now:
we're
leasing
another
warehouse
about
two
blocks
from
there,
but
it's
inconvenient
to
move
Freight
back
important
to
the
other.
Well,
we're
only
asking
for
permission
to
to
expand
that
warehouse
a
little
bit
more,
but
the
setback
on
the
front
of
the
warehouse.
What
we
consider
the
front
of
the
warehouse.
G
H
B
G
B
H
G
A
G
G
G
G
E
E
The
street
load
or
unloading-
oh
I'm,
talking
about
it,
you're,
saying
you're,
putting
doors,
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
assuming
those
doors
open,
yes,
I'm,
assuming
the
truck
has
to
back
in
to
the
door.
Yes,
you
only
have
12
and
a
half
feet
from.
If
we
give
you
the
variance,
you
only
have
12
and
a
half
feet
before
you're
out
of
your
own
property.
Is
that
correct?
We.
E
E
J
A
B
C
G
Rear
in
essence,
if
we
go
the
long
way
we
can
get
this
done
and
all
we're
asking
is
save
us
3
to
4
months
and
a
bunch
of
cash
to
get
this
thing
replanted.
But
you
know
we're
not
asking
something
else:
it's
impossible.
It
can
be
done
if
we
replant,
but
we're
running
out
of
time.
We
need
to
Fernandez
our
client
had
a
project,
and
this
building
is
what
scheduled.
So
we
had
to
put
everything
on
hold
due
to
this
new
change,
so.
A
A
A
C
That
question,
if
I,
can
make
a
comment.
The
first
thing
that
was
said
is:
maybe
the
previous
director
said
that
this
could
work
well,
we've
explained
to
you
already
how
it
could
work
if,
from
the
beginning
of
the
process,
they
started
the
planning
process
that
it
wouldn't
have
taken
three
additional
months
from
now
when
they
first
approached
the
director,
so
whoever
they
talk
with
I,
don't
know
that
conversation
and
I
don't
see
any
documentation
that
that
occurred.
What
I'm
guessing
is,
if
somebody
came
us
to
ask
hey,
can
we
move
this
set
back?
C
What
we
would
tell
them
is
this
is
if
this
was
reply
to
there's
one
line,
you
could
make
that
the
rear
setback
and
it
would
go
down
to
10
feet,
and
so,
let's
assume,
if
that's
what
they
were
told.
Yes,
they
can
still
do
that
today
and
it
will
take
2-3
months
for
that
to
happen
to
reply
it
it's
fairly
simple
process,
but
as
far
as
I
understand,
there
are
no
unusual
circumstances
outside
of
that.
What
what
they're
asking
for
is
for
you
to
not
call
the
rules
to
save
them.
Sometimes
it's.
A
D
A
C
I
guess
another
way
to
say
it
is.
If
you
were
to
deny
this
request
for
variance,
then
they
wouldn't
come
back,
submit
an
application
to
replay.
It
would
go
through
the
design
review
process
where
staff
takes
a
look
at
all
the
different
departments.
Take
a
look
at
like
utilities,
engineering
provide
them
some
comments.
Your
engineer
is
the
flat
if
they
need
to
fix
stuff,
not
it
moves
to
quicker
if
they
do
everything,
quick
and
right,
it
moves
through
faster
and
then
that
plat
goes
through
the
approval
process.
C
B
C
A
lot
of
line
up
like
the
process
can
be
even
quicker,
so
maybe
one
or
two
months,
because
it
doesn't
have
to
go
to
Planning
Commission.
It
was
just
administrative
anyway.
What
I'm
saying
is,
if
you
deny
this
request:
you're,
not
you're,
not
not
allowing
them
to
do
this
it.
They
just
have
to
go
the
proper
route,
the
route
that
everybody
else
has
to
go
through
and
that's
to
reflect
their
property
when
they
have
a
building
that
crosses
two
Lots
and
they're
in
a
similar
circumstance
where
they
want
to.
D
I
understand
the
difficulty
for
the
applicant,
but
to
deny
the
request
is
not
slamming
the
door
on
the
availability'
them
to
do
a
replay.
They
still
have
an
option.
That's
that
the
you
know,
discretion
of
the
property
owner
instead
of
actually
granting
the
variance
right
now
without
having
some
kind
of
you
know
across
the
park
ship
or
something
involve
persons
of
the
particular
property
at
hand.
So
my.
A
B
A
A
A
J
A
E
D
A
C
A
A
Then
we
go
into
public
hearing
until
effective
over
here
and
might
have
motion
for
that.
So
some
of
okay
ended
move
any
second.
Second
and
second
day
we
go
into
open
public
hearing
and
there's
a
request
from
my
one
catalyst
of
Mendes
to
authorize
the
and
exception
to
literal
interpretation
of
the
Riverland
Evelyn
Code
section,
twenty
four
seven,
seven
entitled
the
missional
standard
like
rented,
a
variance
to
the
setback,
requirements
of
block
three
blocked,
908
Western
Division,
located
at
1707,
multiple
stream
and
speak
on
behalf.
Did
we
vote
to
open
okay.
A
A
K
K
K
I'm,
adding
an
additional
I
have
a
fortune
in
front
of
my
house
and
I'm
actually
enclosing
a
right
to
make
to
extend
my
house
to
look
it
to
a
front.
Why
am
I
doing
this
because
I
have
two
kids
and
I'm
actually
trying
to
add
not
add
I'm
gonna
extend
one
of
my
son's
room
because
it's
so
small
and
basically.
K
K
To
person
when
they
told
me
that
didn't
make
her
me,
that's
my
fault,
because
I
didn't
investigate
it
anymore,
yeah,
right,
I'm,
a
first-time
buyer,
I,
didn't
know.
None
of
this,
so
I
went
and
go
ahead.
They
gave
me
prices
and
both
of
them
didn't
tell
me
that
I
needed
to
get
a
permit,
because
since
it
was
in
size,
a
lot
and
stuff
like
that
I
didn't
know
so.
I
continued
the
building
and.
B
F
E
F
D
D
K
One
creeper
to
stop
working
and
we
actually
stopped
I
mean
we
didn't
continue.
That's
when
I
went
downtown
and
I
got
the
knives
for
the
Permenter
game
and,
like
a
month
so
passed
by
on
our
way,
to
see
like
to
hit
status,
and
then
they
somebody
I
couldn't
get
it
because
of
the
weather.
I
was
setting
it
more
to
run
or
stuff
like
that,
so
I
mean
I
just.
A
E
Really
not
in
relation
to
this,
but
it
seems
like
I
think
we
spoke
about
this
before,
where
a
contractor
kind
of
their
fault
for
letting
me
start
doing
this
thing,
knowing
that
there
were
gonna
be
well
not
knowing
that
there
were
going
to
be
stopped,
but
if
they
were
caught
they
were
going
to
be
stopped
and
there
would
be
problems
with
you
know,
with
what
they
had
already
spent.
To
put.
The
thing
is:
is
there
ain't?
B
E
F
A
A
C
B
K
Because
they
had
to,
they
had
the
roof
and
everything,
but
it
just
did
I
enclose
there
right
but
says
I
didn't
know
wrench
like
just
like
I
told
you.
It
was
our
first
time
right,
the
first
time
buyers
and
we
didn't
know
about
this.
Would
you
learn
by
workers?
Instructors
told
us
so
I
mean
we
didn't
investigating,
not
because
we
didn't
know
so.
K
K
D
D
D
K
Step
back
I
mean
they
were
checking.
We
didn't
know
about
this,
neither
from
the
actual
subject
it's
supposed
to
be
20
right,
but
the
house.
It
has
three
feet
because
you
remember
we're
looking
into
that.
It
has
three,
but
the
house
was
actually
already
built
like
that
and
the
porch
so
I
mean
the
house.
The
porch
is
actually
only
five
feet
and
I'm
only
enclosing
them
and
that's
why
I
didn't
I
in
my
head.
A
E
D
B
C
That
question:
yes,
the
person
who,
if
his
story
is
accurate,
I'm,
sorry
mr.
Hernandez,
mr.
Owen
and
his
story
is
accurate.
Yes,
certainly
that
builder
would
be
culpable
for
giving
this
information
and
building
without
a
permit
now
I'm
guessing
that
he
probably
didn't
make
that
statement
in
writing.
C
So
it
would
be
difficult
to
prove
that
I'm
also
guessing
he's,
probably
not
insured
an
insured
builder
who
made
a
mistake,
there's
insurance
for
when
you
make
mistakes
like
that
and
and
this
cost
of
taking
it
down
and
the
cost
of
materials
everything
spent
can
be
paid
for
and
reimbursed.
So,
unfortunately,.
E
D
Still
faced
with
non-compliant
construction
that
kind
of
work
stoppage,
you
know
and
you're
still
faced
with
this
problem,
you
see
and
I,
don't
see
where
they're
slipped
up,
I
understand
you,
all's
you
know
first
home
and
stuff
like
that,
but
I
don't
see
the
hardship
I
don't
see
where
there
has
to
be.
You
know
is
that
you
know
I
understand
that
and
I
do
sympathize
very
much
with
you.
I
just
think
it's
a
very
tough
lesson
when
we
kind
of
trust,
someone
and.
H
D
Not
being
very
forthcoming
with
you
and
that's
why
I'm
saying
the
city
departments
are
there
to
serve
all
taxpayers,
including
ourselves,
to
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
them
and
tell
your
neighbors
the
same
thing
because
they're
gonna
they
could
fall
into
the
same
trap.
You
know,
don't
do
anything
check
with
them
to
let
you
know
whether
you
can
do
it
or
not
before
you
spend
any
money
if.
C
I
might
also
provide
yes,
sir.
Another
few
comments.
A
building
permit
was
not
issued
for
this
enclosure,
so
it
is
very
possible
that
there
are
many
things
out
of
compliance
with
the
way
that
this
was
built.
Electricity
extended
or
you
know,
the
materials
that
were
used.
So,
if
you're
also
looking
at
whether
or
not
to
allow
something
that
was
done,
perhaps
unsafely
and
built
done
safely,
and
that's
something
you
should
consider.
But
this
idea
that
the
contractor
told
them.
Oh
hey,
you
don't
need
a
permit
you.
C
What
you're
thinking
about
doing
is
either
making
him
correct
or
incorrect,
because
I
think
when
we,
when
we
approve
these,
where
there
is
no
justifiable
circumstance
covariance,
you
actually
are
allowing
another
route
for
people
to
do
these
things
building
permits
the
reason
we
do.
That
is
not
to
restrict
what
people
can
do
to
make
things
that
are
safe.
That's
why
the
building
officials
are
there,
no.
D
Well,
I
mean
so
many
times
in
the
end,
it's
kind
of
like
the
buyer
has
to
be
wary,
I
mean
that's
the
old
maxim
I
mean
like
you
have
to
check,
because,
especially
to
make
large
investments,
it's
important
to
check
these
things,
because,
when
you're
faced
with
now,
you
have
to
you're
gonna
have
together
if
you're
denied
you're
gonna
have
to
get
a
demolition
permit.
That
is
correct.
Okay,
and
it
is
about
safety
of
your
children
in
your
house
and
the
electrical
and
the
plumbing
and
all
that
stuff
has
to
be
ticking.