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Board of Adjustment Meeting, 05/11/2022
B
This
lucky
there
was
a
girl
in
there
who
would
use
that
roll
call.
Yes,
sir.
Yes,
sir,
mr
chair,
pancho
april
sir
richard
norton,
jose
gonzalez
javier
martinez,
president
louis
lovato,
joey
javier
javier
david
montes.
A
A
Right,
the
first
item
that
we
have
on
on
the
agenda
is
to
consider
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
These
are
minutes
that
date
back
from
previous
meetings
october,
13th
march
9th
and
was
the
meeting
april
13th
or
april
14th,
because
it
shows
18,
I
mean
13,
but
I
think
on
the
the
actual
minutes
himself.
I
think
it's
in
14.
A
So
these
were
sent
to
each
of
the
members
here
and
I'm
assuming
everybody
read
it.
So
I'd
like
to
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
so
I'll
move.
Second,
I
have
a
motion
a
second
to
approve
the
minutes.
Yes,
sir,
any
discussion,
no
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
aye.
A
Motion
carries
all
right,
so
really
this
meeting
was
called
not
necessarily
to
hear
an
actual
case
of
to
to
do
some
cleanup
work,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
mr
navarro
planning,
director
and
he'll.
Take
care.
Yes,.
B
And,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
that.
What
we
have
here
is
a
change
in
the
process
as
far
as
voting
and
our
our
ordinance
didn't
match
with
the
state
law,
so
we
had
to
make
some
changes.
We
have
presented
this
to
city
council
and
it
still
needs
to
go
back
to
city
council
for
finals,
but
for
approval,
but
we
felt
necessary
to
bring
it
here
as
a
courtesy
so
that
everybody
could
have
their
chance
to
give
their
opinion
or
and
and
then
at
the
end.
B
We
hope
that
we
can
get
a
recommendation,
so
we
could
take
back
the
council
that
we
did
talk
to
the
board
of
adjustments
that
you're
aware
of
the
changes
and
that,
hopefully
we
have
a
positive
recommendation.
B
C
C
The
purpose
of
the
of
this
amendment
is
to
align
the
land
development
code,
which
is
our
local.
You
know
ordinance
with
the
texas
local
government
code,
specifically
sections
to
eleven
point:
zero,
zero,
eight
d
and
to
211.009
c.
C
C
What
I
have
tried
to
do
is
is
give
you
a
quick
way
to
compare
the
current
land
development
code,
the
state
law
and
the
proposed
amendment
and
what's
happening
as
you'll,
see
under
the
current
land
development
codes
and
I've
done
all
the
sections
for
you.
For
anybody
who
wants
to
look
them
up
quorum
is
defined
as
five
voa
members
and
the
vote.
What
it
states
is
three-fourths
of
the
members
present
rounding
up
are
required
to
grant
a
variance
or
reverse
an
administrative
order.
C
So
in
this
case,
if
you
only
have
five
members
present,
you
could
have
as
low
as
four
members
only
necessary
to
grant
a
variance.
So
if
you
have
nine
present,
you
know
what
I
mean.
If
you
had
five,
you
would
only
need
four,
so
under
state
law,
what
quorum
says
is
75
of
the
members
period
of
the
members.
C
Board
seven
members
would
be
required
on
a
non-member
board
for
vote
in
order
to
reverse
an
order
or
ground
ovarians
again,
75
percent
of
the
board
members
concurring
vote
are
required
to
grant
that
marriage
or
reverse
that
order
again
for
a
nine-member
board.
Seven
would
be
required
so.
D
D
E
C
What
I've
also
done
is
done
a
quick
comparison
of
five
other
cities
in
texas
and
how
they
interpret
this
very
same
statute,
and
I
made
sure
to
put
that
you'll
see
for
the
existing
the
top
row
and
laredo
the
existing
ordinance
we
had
would
have
nine
regular
members.
No
alternates
quorum
would
be
defined
as
five
and
the
vote
to
grant,
variance
or
or
reverse
an
order
would
be.
C
75
percent
of
the
members
present,
so
the
proposed
would
require
not
or
wouldn't
have
nine
members,
nine
regular
members,
no
alternates
quorum
is
seven
and
the
vote
requiring
would
be
seven.
We
talked
with
el
paso,
san
antonio
austin
corpus
and
also
brownsville,
and
they
all
interpret
it
exactly
the
same
for
el
paso.
It's
nine
members.
C
They
do
have
nine
alternates
because
they
do
recognize
that
whole
thing
about.
If
you
don't
have
somebody
coming
and
then
their
quorum
is
seven
and
the
votes
require
seven.
San
antonio
is
eleven.
They
have
six
alternates
nine
members
for
the
forum
and
nine
members
to
vote.
Austin
is
eleven
zero
alternates,
nine
for
the
quorum
and
nine
to
vote.
Corpus
was
five
with
two
alternates
four
for
the
quorum
and
four
for
the
vote.
C
Brownsville
this
one.
I
had
it,
but
it's
not.
Let
me
see
it's
not
here.
Okay,
I
think
that
this
is
an
earlier
version,
so
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
how
other
cities
are
looking
at
at
the
statute
and
how
they
implement
it.
So
all
the
other
cities
we
checked
alternate
members.
C
So
here
is
the
the
draft
where
nones,
so
it's
it's
a
two
set
two
sentence:
revision.
The
quorum
is
formed
by
no
less
than
seven
members
and
then
that
middle
sentence
is
being
removed
and
replaced
in
its
totality
with
that
bottom
sentence.
That's
it's
underlined.
So
the
quorum
shall
act
by
motion
in
which
not
less
than
seven
concurring.
Votes
of
the
members
are
required
to
reverse
an
administrative
decision
or
to
grant
a
variant,
and
that
is
it.
C
Yeah
we
we
have
spoken
with
our
our
ex-previous
city
attorney.
She
was
miss
fur
president
of
the
texas
bar
association.
I
think
you
know
we
spoke
with
her.
We
spoke
with
alan
bojorquez.
C
He
gave
us
again
the
same.
You
know
interpretation,
that
you
know
we
checked
with
him
check
with
mr
haradondo
and
his
his
other
colleague
in
his
office
as
well.
B
And,
mr
chairman,
we
did
that
because
you
know
we
thought
mr
road's
comments
were
valid
for
us
to
do
more
research.
So
we
went.
We
went
through
this
because
of
the
comments
we
didn't
have
quorum,
but
he
had
made
some
comments
and
he
said
you
know
what.
Let's
do
that
before
we
come
back.
Let's
get
some
other
cities
find
out
what
they're
doing
or
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
recognize.
D
That
thank
you,
mr
chair.
Let
me
ask
you
a
couple
questions.
So,
when
the
council
went
to
nine
members,
we're
just
trying
to
follow
up
with
the
ordinance
to
get
to
the
place
where
you
know,
because
they're
putting
nine
regular
members
correct
okay,
so
let's
talk
about
the:
what
is
a
quorum?
D
D
D
Okay,
that's
where
I
that's,
where
I
disagree
with
you.
The
the
code
doesn't
say
that
the
state
law
says
you
need
concurring
votes
of
75
percent
of
the
members,
okay,
and
it
can
only
be
the
members
who
are
voting.
It
can't
be
the
members
who
aren't
present
because
they're
not
voting.
How
can
you
count
them
if
they're
not
voting?
That's.
D
C
D
C
C
D
D
Your
statute
is
right
on
your
your
proposed
amendment.
Let's
go
to
your
amendment
because
your
amendments
are
actually
pretty
close.
Your
amendment
provides
that
we're
gonna
go
to
seven
for
no
less
than
seven
or
a
quorum.
That's
correct
that
that's
correct.
If
we
have
a
nine
member
board
and
the
last
sentence,
though
we
should
just
leave
at
three
quarters
because
that's
what
the
state
law
provides
if
we
have
a
quorum
of
eight,
the
affirmative
boat
of
six
would
be
the
required
vote,
not
seven.
D
If
we
have
a
quorum
of
nine
at
all
the
members
present,
a
vote
of
seven
would
be
required.
That
would
be
75
percent,
but
to
say
that
a
quorum
of
seven
would
require
a
greater
vote
or
a
quorum
of
eight
would
require.
A
greater
vote
is
incorrect.
That's
where
you
all
are
wrong.
It's
two
things:
what
constitutes
a
quorum
number
one,
and
once
you
have
that
quorum,
what
constitutes
a
valid
vote
at
that
point?
That's
correct!
Okay!
You
already.
B
D
D
D
Opinion
on
that,
but
that,
but
but
if
we're
not
going
to
have
alternates,
we
need
to
leave
it
that
we
have
a
quorum
at
seven
or
seven
or
the
first
sentence,
which
is
the
first
sentence
nobody
disagrees
with,
which
is
part
d,
which
each
each
case
must
be
heard
by
at
least
75
percent
of
the
members
that
puts
us
at
seven.
Okay.
We
don't
need
to
change
that
that
line,
and
then
the
second
line
is
the
one
about
the
concurring
votes,
the
concurring
vote
of
75
percent.
D
If
we
leave
that,
as
is
also,
we
get
a
quorum
of
seven
we're
required
to
get
six
votes
there.
If
we
have
a
quorum
of
eight,
we
get
six
votes
there.
If
we
have
a
quorum
of
nine,
we
get
seven
votes.
You
are
changing
the
requirement.
D
C
C
C
G
But
I
I
do
know
what
you
know.
The
definition
of
a
quorum
is
what
makes
the
meeting
valid,
how
many
are
required
of
the
membership
that
are
here,
if
it's
nine,
that
we
must
have
seven
based
on
this
change
that
they're
trying
to
make,
but
then
for
them.
I
do
agree
with
what
you
know
what
is
being
discussed
here
to
this
extent
that
you
know
now
you're
requiring
a
75
of
the
the
body
membership
without
saying.
G
G
You
know
that
this
is
the
mr
level
his
what
he's
insane,
and
I
also
believe
in
the
government
code
that
once
you
constitute
a
quorum,
that
the
threshold
that
you're
placing
on
that
quorum
for
that
meeting
should
be
75
of
the
quorum,
not
75
of
the
body,
the
appointed
body.
You
know,
maybe
I'm
not
saying
it
in
the
proper
legal
terms,.
A
You
have
to
have
super
majority,
a
super
majority
of
everybody,
but
not
the
people
that
are
present
at
a
meeting.
I
understand
I
understand
that
concept.
I
don't,
and
I
I
don't
understand
why
we
are
taking
up
that.
Why
are
we?
A
F
E
D
D
B
D
Well,
the
the
only
comment
I
would
give
that
to
navado
is
that
that
last
we're
okay,
as
long
as
we
say
a
quorum
is
seven,
it
has
to
be
seven
members,
that's
good!
Seventy-Five
percent.
You
could
say
that,
because
we're
nine
I'd
rather
just
keep
it
at
seventy-five
percent,
and
seventy-five
percent
is
going
to
be
seven.
A
D
A
The
of
the
board-
in
other
words,
I
would
agree
with
that.
Excuse
me:
it's
not
it's
not
part
of
the
motion,
but
I
would
agree
to
that
or
to
the
existing
the
existing
ordinance
being
changed
to
include
alternates
one
or
the
other.
Now
truly,
truly,
honestly,
I
think
we're
a
city,
that's
growing,
and
maybe
we
do
need
to
look
at
alternates,
but
I
do
think
that
we
have
had
enough
people
here
at
any
given
meeting
to
make
to
make
a
valid
decision.
E
Yeah,
I
don't
think
that
squares
us
with
state
law.
I
think
the
change
that
we're
making
here
is
to
be
in
compliance
with
state
law,
and
it's
reflected
by
all
the.
If
you
see
the
comparisons
up
there
I
mean
el
paso
is
doing
the
exact
same
thing
and
kind
of
the
change
behind
trying
to
get
everybody
to
this.
G
E
There's
this
there's
a
distinction,
though
a
quorum
would
just
be
a
simple,
simple
majority
right,
okay,
and
so
that's
that's
separate
in
part
from
the
texas
local
government
code
regarding
the
board
of
adjustment.
It's
not
defining
a
quorum
or
anything
for
your
meetings,
but
it
is
saying
to
hear
a
case.
You
need
75
of
the
members
present
that
to.
D
We
don't
need
a
ruling
from
the
attorney
general.
We
just
need
to
follow
state
law.
It's
very
simple:
there's
no
confusion
about
what
a
quorum
is.
It's
75
of
the
board
currently
and
there's
no
confusion
about
what
a
concurring
boat
should
needs
to
get
to
75,
regardless
of
the
quorum,
whether
it's
seven,
eight
or
nine.
In
our
instance
now,
mr
mr
abel's
suggestion
of
alternate
members,
good
you'll
always
have
a
full
board.
D
D
G
C
G
Times
mr
navarro
may
be
aware
of
it
too,
to
some
degree
where
we
didn't
even
have
quorum.
Not
even
the
five
members
were
showing
up
at
board
of
adjustments
at
one
time,
okay,
and
it
was
difficult
even
to
hear
a
case,
because
we
wouldn't
have
the
simple
quorum
that
we
could
with
five
members.
So,
like
I
say,
but
once
you
do
have
a
quorum
present,
I
I
kind
of
feel
along
the
lines
based
on
what
I'm
looking
at
right
now
that
we
should
be
able
to
get
75
of
the
quorum.
G
A
A
Meeting
maybe
we
increase
our
of
the
the
quorum
if
it's
nine,
we
have
to
have
seven
technically
here
right
now.
We
would
not
be
able
to
make
that
decision
any
decision
of
any
kind,
but
if
it's
75
percent
of
the
members
present
and
instead
of
75
of
the
members
and
I'm
going
to
throw
something
out
because
let's
say
we
have
a
person
that
is
habitually
absent
well,
technically,
that
person's
vote
is
being
counted
because
it's
75
percent
of
the
members.
A
So
you
know
he
he
his
his
absence
is
brought
into
play
and
I
don't
think
that's
fair.
So
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
call
call
the
motion
because
of
the
fact
that
I
need
to
make
certain
that
we
have
it
worded
properly
to
where
you're
going
to
take
it
to
to
council.
So
all
those
in
favor
of
the
of
mr
devotes
motion
to
reject
am
I
correct
correct.
Then
I
reject
correct
the
recommendation.
The
recommendation
at
this
point.
A
Well,
yes,
in
other
words,
we're
not
we're
not
voting
on
an
ordinance
understand
that
we're
not
voting
on
an
ordinance,
but
we
are
simply
making
a
recommendation
whether
we
agree
or
disagree
with
what
council
is
suggesting.
So
based
on
that,
I
think
your
your
motion
is
that
we're
going
to
deny
what
they're
putting
forth
correct.
You
know.
D
B
E
C
They
in
their
in
their
bylaws
in
their
municipal
codes
in
their
land
development
codes,
which
I
have
all
those
all
those
identifiers
and
people
that
I
spoke
to
with
regard
to
all
of
these
numbers
right.
They
do
have
sometimes
they
would
have
75
of
the
members,
in
which
case
I
would
follow
up
with
phone
call,
and
I
have
those
that
are
okay.
D
F
A
B
D
D
B
Do
they
have
a
specific
ordinance?
It
says
nine,
they
all
agreed.
You
know
I'm
thinking
along
the
lines
of
what
you
guys
are
saying
and
saying
quorum
and
everything
I
said.
Let's
find
out,
you
know,
because
my
first
initial
reaction
was
what
you're
saying
is
correct,
so
he
said
all
right,
let's
check,
because
he
does
bring
up
a
good
point
to
check.
We
checked
in
all
of
them,
plus
the
attorney
that
we
talked
to
plus
a
municipal.
We
do
trainings
with
a
lawyer
online.
B
D
E
E
D
D
D
D
E
E
Correct
so
if
we
had
a
hearing
meeting
something
like
this,
you
could
do
that
with
a
majority
correct
right.
A
Thank
you,
okay.
I
I'd
like
to
bring
forward
a
point
that
is
on
this
sheet.
The
next
the
next
paragraph,
the
first
sentence
says
the
board
by
majority
vote,
shall
adopt
rules
in
accordance
with
any
ordinance
adopted
under
this
sub-chapter
and
with
the
approval
of
the
governing
body.
So
our
governing
body
is
city,
council,
okay
and
the
sun.
So
if
we
are
adopting
a
of
a
rule
that
says
that
we
can
have
nine
and
we
can
have
75
it
requires
of
the
of
the
people
present
at
a
meeting,
I
think
we're
okay.
A
D
A
Well,
I
I
think
we've
already
voted
and
all
I'm
asking
is
that
that
you
carry
forth
our
thoughts
either
either
or
either
we're
going
to
adopt
75
of
the
people
present,
and
we
need
seven
of
the
nine
to
be
able
to
have
to
discuss
anything
or
we're
going
to
have.
If
we're
going
to
go
the
other
route
that
you're
suggesting,
then
we
have
to
have
alternates
to
where
we'll
always
have
a
full
board.