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06-09-21 Citizens Environmental Advisory Committee Meeting
C
C
Today
is
june
9th
2021,
it
is
12
15
pm
and
I
called
it
this
meeting
of
assistant
environmental
advisory.
B
Committee
to
order,
let
me
start
with
a
roll
call
of
all
members.
Okay,
mr
jones,
I'm
here
mr
bay
venegas,
mr
gonzalez,
I'm
president,
mr
jordan's
cute
miss
rubio.
D
D
B
Did
you
get
welcome?
Did
you
get
the
sworn.
B
So,
ms.
F
C
B
Mr
chairman,
we
have
trisha
cortez
and
then
we
have
the
council
member
via
webex.
I
don't
know
if
they
they
have
any
comments.
This
weekend.
H
Yeah,
I'm
in
here
just
to
listen
and
learn.
If
I
can
add
anything,
I
will
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
have
a
discussion
at
some
point
soon
on
a
separate
issue
involving
ethylene
oxide
with
the
plant
midwest
sterilization
and
its
impacts
within
the
community
as
far
as
what's
happening
with
cancer
risks
and
air
quality.
But
I
know
that's
separate
from
today's
agenda
item.
Okay,.
B
Right,
yes,
yes,
so
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong,
we
kind
of
ended
up
last
meeting
talking
about
looking
at
different
buffer
zones
from
200
feet
up
to
500
feet
and
mr
adrian
goss
put
together
this
map,
and
so
he
was
able
to
show
he
put
a
number
of
schools
on
here.
D
D
B
Can
see
there
clearly
would
be
a
few
warehouses
that
are
affected.
B
B
B
Here's
the
school
that's
near
the
landfill,
it
doesn't
look
like
there
would
be
any
warehouses
that
have
hazmat
permits
in
that
area.
Although
around
the
sac-
and
I
think,
that's
square
that
looks
like
there
may
be
some
that
would
be
effective.
B
This
one's
kind
of
peculiar
right
here,
because
that's
an
actual
lasd
facility,
and
that
has
been
current.
So
I
don't
know
if,
obviously,
if
they
didn't
move
that
it
wouldn't
be
affected,
if
you
grandfathered
in
because
there's
what's
the
what's
the
school
next
to
that
one.
I
That's
close
to
that.
Typically,
these
sites,
you
know-
maybe
different
owners-
they'll,
be
they'll,
be
they'll,
be
the
same
address,
so
a
company
will
come
in
and
they'll
go
ahead
and
take
over
the
operation.
So
these
things
change.
This
is
a
few
months
old.
Now
this
database.
B
On
how
how
how
much
of
a
turnover
there
is?
If
this
passes,
then,
obviously,
if
a
new
owner
comes
in,
then
they
would
not
be
able
to
acquire
a
permit
if,
if
a
buffer
zone
is
if
they're
within
that
buffer
zone,.
B
They're
really
not
there,
I
think
austin
I
mean
what
I've
seen
is
like
50
foot,
100
foot,
I
yeah.
I
there's
not
any
city
that
I
could
find
that
had,
I
think
more
than
100
maybe
200
feet.
B
That
was
created
well,
the
sea
act
was
created
to
work
on
the
hazmat
ordinance
back
in
98,
and
we
had
gotten
a
grant
where
some,
I
think,
st
mary's
law
students
helped
craft
the
ordinance
and
we
we
didn't
have
a
model
to
look
at.
We,
you
know
basically
were
trailblazers
when,
with
this
type
of
ordnance,
you
know.
D
It
looks
like
mueller
and.
B
Potentially
united
high.
C
These
these
warehouses
that
have
this
hazmat
license
that
they've
been
licensed
through
this
years
and
years.
B
D
B
D
B
Again,
I
think
I
mean
I
think,
200
to
500
to
me
seems
reasonable.
It
just
depends
on
what
many
things
it
should.
B
J
Associate
attorney
or
assistant
city
attorney
shared
some
information
last
at
the
last
meeting
about
the
other
cities,
and
you
know
you
also
mentioned
some
other
situations
by
the
land.
Taking
you
know,
I
guess
I
go
back
and
I
know
our
job
is
not
to
look
at
residential.
J
I
understand
that,
but
many
like,
for
example,
mueller
is
there
and
thinking
they're
building
a
school
off
of
riverbank
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
close
to.
I
J
D
I
G
B
B
B
J
Since
that
looks
so
nice
and
clean
and
undeveloped
and
mysteries
that
his
he's
been
involved
in
the
development
of
the
land
and
he
will
build
some
affordable
housing
there
as
well
as
armadillo
and
some
other
companies,
I'm
sure
I
was
wondering
if
we
couldn't
protect.
At
least
you
know,
as
we
make
this
suggestion
for
the
future
and
existing
those
that
are
currently
being
built.
Could
we
have
that
leeway
to
say
2
000,
you
know
a
half
a
mile.
J
I
would
recommend
that
we
be
the
jump
starters
in
a
great
ordinance
to
protect
our
residents,
our
teachers,
our
students
and
those
of
us
who
really
care
about
the
dangers
of
hazardous
materials.
Being
there
that's
my
proposal
for
the
existing
schools,
you
know
I'm.
I
live
in
la
volta,
and
I
mentioned
this
last
meeting
because
green
ranch,
wolf,
creek,
loboto
ranch
are
subdivisions
that
only
have
one
entrance
and
one
exit.
I
I
am
concerned,
I'm
concerned:
should
there
be
an
incident
that
requires
evacuation?
It's
happened
before
as
close
as
kill
them.
J
I
can
recall
coming
home
from
work.
There's
a
message
on
the
answering
issue
you
must
have.
There
is
a
chemical
spill
on
kiln,
and
so
I
remember
going
into
a
little
bit
of
a
panic
mode,
but
you
know,
thankfully
it
was
resolved
so
to
I
guess,
come
to
a
consensus
on
my
part.
I
would
like
for
us
to
be
looking
at
something
proactive
rather
than
reactive,
10
years
down
the
road.
J
I
hear
you,
mr
porter
john.
I
know
what
you're
saying
that
you
know
we
have
to
be
realistic
and
practical,
but
I
guess
I'm
idealistic
and
hopeful,
and
I
would
help
others
share
my
concern
that
you
know
we
need
to
to
look
at
things
not
just
for
today,
but
I
love
that
I
love
seeing
something
pure
and
clean
right
now,
and
is
this
the
part
where
I
want
to
share?
I
have
a
couple
of
comments.
J
Okay,
I'd
like
to
share
that.
I
I
wasn't
able
to
get
this
gentleman
to
speak
today,
but
he
did
share
and
he's
a
former
uisd
board
member
for
probably
20
years,
and
he
his
quote
is
this.
It
is
a
good
idea
to
involve
the
school
district
in
this
decision.
J
So
it's
one
thing
to
accept
land
from
someone,
but
we
could
ask
the
school
district
to
get
involved
in
also.
Maybe
our
boarding
could
contain
that
so
that
if
land
is
donated
to
the
school
district,
the
school
district
could
have
more
say
so
about
avoiding
the
m1
changes
that
can
occur
near
an
existing
school
site.
J
This
morning
I
spoke
to
a
middle
school
principal
and
she
looked
at
me
and
she
said
place.
The
highest
distance
requirement
allowed
as
far
away
as
possible,
and
you
know
so.
I
haven't
been
out
in
all
parts
of
laredo,
but
I
don't
think
there
would
be
anything
but
a
positive
reaction
from
us
to
support
a
large
distance
requirement
from
you
know
hazardous
materials
amen.
I
did
it.
H
Think
you
raised
all
of
the
good
points
joanne
and
I
think
a
lot
depends
on
what
is
the
type
of
hazardous
materials
that
are
being
stored
around
areas
where
the
district
may
consider
building
a
new
campus
or
where
the
city
may
start
approving
new
platts
for
residential
areas.
I
think
those
are
important
things
to
consider,
as
you
mentioned,
for
the
future,
so
that
we're
not
dealing
years
down
the
road
with
an
emergency
situation
that
could
have
been
less
impactful
for
a
school
campus
or
a
neighborhood.
H
I
think
you
you
raised
everything
very,
very
neatly:
jordan,.
L
L
I
have
a
question:
did
they
differentiate
hazardous
materials
by
categories
like
liquid
versus
air
quality.
H
B
So
you
know
yeah,
there's
there's
between
one
and
and
four
on
the
on
the
placards.
A
Do
you
just
I
mean
I
think
it's
free
like
you
follow
just
the
tcq
like
as
far
as
like
theirs,
because
I
remember
when
I
mean
we're
very
limited
on
going
out
there
just
to
see
what
what
was
out
there,
but
we
would
get
some
calls
from
people
like
hey,
there's
nurses,
so
they
still
would
kind
of
well
kind
of
get
involved
at
a
certain
kind
of
you
know
point,
but
because
of
lack
of
personalities,.
B
B
B
B
D
B
B
D
B
Is
already
a
tool
that
the
city
has
to
determine
where
schools
should
be
located
and
residents
should
be
located,
and
I
think
the
city's
improved
a
lot
on
that
like
in
in
this
subdivision
you're
talking
about
this
is
unplanted
it's
agriculture
now,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
be
all
plated
either
residential
multi-family
or
maybe
some
you
know,
b1
b2s
again.
This
is
a
a
sin.
A
sin
sin
of
our
father
right.
Remember.
L
B
Father
is
right
here
with
this
m1
area
in
here,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
this
subdivision.
B
You
know
I
don't
see
that
this
being
zoned
m,
m1
or
m2,
and
I
know
council's
made
a
policy
that
they
try
and
keep
all
of
the
new
m1s
and
m2s
at
least
away
from
the
river
and
and
preferably
to
the
west,
or
excuse
me
to
the
east
of
mayans
road.
Again,
that's
not
always
the
case,
but
you
know
that
certainly
is
a
tool
that
can
help
out
with
citing.
J
I
I
And
go
to
the
bridge
yeah!
Okay:
it
was
right
right,
see
that
purple
not
the
purple,
but
the
lighter.
D
D
C
B
B
C
J
That's
a
question
for
mr
coss:
got
it
right.
How
many
warehouses
currently
would
be
impacted
if
we
did
a
distance
of
between
800
and
a
thousand,
I'm
just
curious?
Are
we
looking
at
doubling
the
numbers
or
even
quadrupling?
Can
you.
I
Well,
let's,
let's
look
at
this,
it's
going
to
require.
I
that's
why
I'm
here
to
give
chell's
direction,
guidance
and
questions.
You
know
I
can
make
queries.
Spatial
queries
talk
funny,
but
I
can
go
ahead
and
do
an
analysis.
You
know
for
that
kind
of
thing
to
see.
You
know
that
kind
of
impact
and
all
that.
D
J
I
Be
that
much
currently
united
in
the
current
in
the
buffers
of
the
500
feet
or
not,
there's
no
hazmat,
whereas
at
that
point.
B
It
would
have
very
minimal
effect
here.
I
could
see
maybe
some
areas
in
359.
B
I
You
know
what
you
can
do.
You
can
change
the
base
map
gallery
to
another
to
like
open
map
layers,
and
it
probably
will
bring
you
faster
if
you'd
like.
B
Yeah,
no,
that's
that's
another
warehouse.
G
I'm
not
sure,
like
we
talked
about
last
time
about
then
donating
most
of
the
school's
land
right.
So
I
understand
that
we
could
put
restrictions,
but
how
how
much
of
a
restriction
people
could
probably
limit
the
land
that
they
can
accept
right.
So
it
might
be
a
good
idea
to
speak
to
the
school
district
as
well,
because
excuse
me
they
need
to
understand
that
we're
restricting
anything
that
they
need
to
be
able
to
receive
in
the
future,
and
that's
also
something
that
I
mean.
M
D
B
Something
in
it
that
basically
says
that
if
there's
a
part
of
this
ordinance
that
is
found
to
be
invalid,
it
doesn't
affect
the
rest
of
the.
D
B
So
I
you
know
if
the
committee
wants
to
recommend
a
thousand,
I
don't
think
that's
going
to
have
too
much
of
an
effect.
I
think
once
you
go
beyond
that,
I
think
you're
going
to
have
more
of
an
effect
and
I
think
you
know
making
a
recommendation
getting
it
out
there
getting
it
on
the
books.
B
And-
and
so
I
think,
sometimes
it's
good
to
strike
wide
while
the
iron
is
hot
and
and
we
can
always
amend
it,
you
can
always
expand
it.
You
can
always,
but
you
know
to
to.
B
To
pursue
the
the
perfect
distance,
I
don't
think
it's
necessarily
timeless.
I
think
the
committee
thinks
thousand
feet
is
sufficient,
which
I
think
it
is
that's
quite
a
buffer.
B
J
D
B
D
D
J
To
to
look
at
a
a
nicer
buffer
zone
for
the
sake
of
our
children-
and
you
know
our
community-
that's
my
my
thinking.
I
would
recommend
a
thousand,
as
we've
just
been
discussing,
for
what
we've
been
tasked
with
for
the
distance
requirement,
but
for
the
future.
I
really
believe
we
need
to
hold
it
to
a
higher
standard
and
it
doesn't
mean
the
city
council
will
agree
to
this.
I
understand,
but
I'm
going
to
hold
firm
to
my
two
miles
on
that.
J
I'd
like
to
make
a
notion
that
we
make
the
recommended
change
of
1
000
feet
from
hazardous
materials
as
the
distance
requirement
from
schools,
and
also
to
add
for
a
district
requirement
for
future
sites
to
have
a
distance
requirement
of
two
thousand.
Excuse
me:
two
models
for
the
future
of
school
siding.
I
don't.
B
D
B
Be
the
place
that
you
were
talking
about,
midwestern.
D
C
I
think
we
may
create
some
confusion
if
you'd
like
to
earn
your
emotion
in
two
parts
restating.
I
I
B
A
M
C
B
M
J
Perhaps
it's
wise
to
really
check
more
often
than
three
times
a
year.
That's
the
amount,
I'm
not
sure
on
these
hazmat
licenses
that
are
near
schools,
and
I
think
that
would
be
nice
to
prioritize
tubes.
So
let's
say
there's
four
or
five
you
mentioned
around
mueller.
I
would
think
those
have
to
be.
You
know
really
looked
at
carefully
regularly
because
they're
so
close
to
schools.
That's
that's!
Just
a
side
comment.
B
At
least
four
times
a
year,
but
but
we
also
go
after
warehouses
that
aren't
in
compliance,
and
you
know
it's
like
anything
else,
you
go
and
inspect
somebody
and
everything
is:
is
immaculate
everything's
always
in
place
they.
You
know,
they
know
what
they're
doing
you
know
that's
four
times,
but
you
go
in
there
and
they
don't
know
where
their
stuff
is
stored
and
they
don't
have
their
paperwork.
B
Okay
and
then,
as
with
having
a
permit,
then
we
have
a
right
to
inspect
really
at
any
time.
F
F
F
It
doesn't
adversely
affect,
I
guess,
growth
or
take
from
landowners,
because
we
are
going
to
have
growth
in
the
city,
and
so
we
do
need
to
have
safeguards
in
place.
Like
miss
montero
said
you
know,
united
high
school,
that
land
is
undeveloped.
You
don't
want
to
have
another.
You
know
waller
elementary,
a
lot
of
places
in
the
country.
Don't
have
schools
so
close
to
warehouses
and
don't
have
warehouses
so
close
to
homes,
and
so
that's
something
that
we've
done
during
the
radio
erroneously.
F
Arguably
over
the
last
you
know
decades
and-
and
you
can
see
the
residents
in
my
area
kind
of
suffering
the
negative
consequences
of
that
kind
of
planning
decisions,
those
kinds
of
decisions,
but
what
we
want
to
do
right
now.
I
think
the
goal
here
is
to
make
sure
that
when
you
have
a
school,
that
you
don't
have
hazardous
materials
within
so
many
feet,
but
we
don't
also
don't
want
to
make
it
too
far,
because
then,
if
we
make
it
too
far,
then
it's
gonna
limit
what
people
can
do.
D
For
a
long
long
distance,
like
I
mean.
F
Two
miles
is
kind
of
long.
A
mile
is
kind
of
long.
I
don't
know
if
the
committee
would
agree
with
that
or
not.
I
think
I
was
thinking
more
like
a
couple
blocks
or
a
block,
or
you
know
just
kind
of
like
where
the
trucks
won't
won't,
necessarily
like
where
there's
or
there's
not
going
to
be
danger
when
they,
you
know
when
the
parents,
picking
up
the
children
or
with
the
parents
or
with
the
children
playing
outside
these
cases,
like
the
ethylene
oxide
that
we're
talking
about
that's
that's
a
midwest
sterilization.
F
I
don't
know
if
you
all
know,
but
if
you
go
down
industrial
all
the
way
towards
35,
it's
one
of
the
last
few
streets.
We
well
it's
kind
of
midway,
it's
by
the
mid
pack
plant
and
that
company
was
brought
here
by
because
of
midwest
because
of
that
midwest
company,
because
midwest
used
to
sterilize
their
products
in
another
city
I
mean
they
would
transport
it
all
the
way
to
another
state
and
then
that
company
decided
to
go
ahead
and
capitalize
on
a
location.
F
I
guess
like
advantage
to
be
next
to
it,
so
that
when
midwest
creates
their
tools
and
everything
they
just
send
them
next
door
that
gets
paralyzed,
but
it's
very
far
away
from
you
know
the
school
in
terms
of
like
you
have
to
drive,
and
it
is
kind
of
there's
a
lot
of
things
in
between
I'm
more
concerned
about
the
diesel
and
and
emissions,
and
things
like
that
that
are
actually
closer
to
the
school,
and
so
that's
kind
of
a
separate
issue
here.
F
But
what
we're
talking
about
is
is
hazardous
materials
and
anything,
a
lot
of
things
can
be
considered
a
hazardous
material,
just
even
in
the
way
that
they're
stored
or
the
the
way
that
they're
named,
which
is
actually
you
know.
So
I
asked
mr
porter:
is
there
a
way
to
classify
different
levels
of
hazardous
and
things
like
that?
And
so
we
don't
want
to
get
too
complicated.
I
think
what
we
want
to
do.
F
The
main
main
goal
right
now
is
protecting
schools
from
having
hazardous
material
like
within
a
very
tight
radius
of
them,
that
that,
if
there's
a
speed,
a
spill
or
something
it's
not
going
to
really
affect
the
school,
the
way
it
would
if
it
was,
but
at
the
same
time
even
two
miles
three
miles
four
miles.
I
mean
even
in
the
case
of
midwest,
it's
pretty
far
away
and
we're
all
everybody
in
this
area
is
possibly
at
risk
because
of
the
air
quality.
F
But
let's,
let's
not
get
into
a
situation
where
they're
going
to
come
back
to
the
city
and
they're
going
to
like
try
to
sue
us,
because
you
know,
there's
there's
not
a
lot
of
land
in
the
realm,
and
so
I'd
like
for
it
to
be,
where
you
know,
there's
a
land
across
the
street
from
mueller.
F
Not
to
be
used
to
store
hazardous
materials,
I
don't
know
who
can
give
us
a
a
distance,
but
in
the
back
of
the
school
there's
a
lot
of
warehousing
and
storage,
so
anybody
there
would
be
grandfathered
but,
like
miss
oberlo,
said,
let's
kind
of
protect
these
future
schools.
There's
a
school
going
up,
possibly
on
akira,
there's
a
school,
possibly
going
up
by
the
max.
D
F
K
F
I
don't
know
500
feet
would
be
a
good
distance.
I
don't
know
a
good
compromise
for
now.
It
would
take
away
the
immediate
problems
of
like
mulder.
It
could
always
be
tweaked
as
we
go
forward,
but
you
know
there
is
possible
construction
coming
up,
so
we
do
kind
of
want
to
hit
a
consensus
as
soon
as
possible.
So
that's
my
input.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you.
Would
you
support
our
recommendation
of
a
distance
requirement
of
1
000
feet
from
warehouses
containing
hazardous
materials
and
schools?
Are
you
saying
that
it's
more
than
what
you
would
recommend.
F
F
B
F
Okay,
so
whatever
the
committee
comes
up
with,
I
know
everybody
in
this
role
cares
about
the
community
and
the
environment.
I
know
this
cortes
is
here,
so
I'm
just
here
to
listen
and
kind
of
you
know
see
where
you
all
are
are
thinking
with
this.
F
With
this
policy
that
we're
trying
to
create,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we
decide,
you
know
we
can
kind
of
take
it
back
to
councils
sooner
than
later,
and
that
you
know
where
it's
just
we're
going
to
start
to
get
the
phone
calls
from
the
property
owners.
So.
D
B
F
Because
this
wouldn't
really
prevent
warehousing,
the
warehousing
can
still
go
up.
It
would
just
be
limiting
the
the
materials
that
they
can
have
and-
and
I
think
mr
porter
and
I
discussed
how
even
like
cleaning
materials
are
considered
hazardous.
So
you
couldn't
even
have
a
walgreens
or
you
couldn't
even
have
a
convenience
store
because
they
store
hazardous
materials
right
this
order.
It
would
kind
of
restrict.
B
So,
on
commercial
you
know
for
like
goods
that
are
being
sold,
they
don't
need
that
this
is.
This
is
more
bulk
quantity,
but
I
I
think
I
think,
for
the
concern
about
molar,
I
think
500
would
be,
would
work
and.
B
K
J
K
Because
I
mean
you
may
be
talking
a
hazardous
material
that
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
potential
for
impact,
but
then
you
could
be
talking
about
like
the
situation
with
the
fertilizer
and
the
city
of
west,
where
there
was
an
explosion
eight
years
ago.
It
doesn't
seem
like
it
was
that
long
ago,
but
it
was
a
huge
explosion.
E
B
D
A
D
M
G
K
We
do
is
just
okay.
E
J
B
D
C
K
C
C
C
D
A
A
That
happened
within
the
warehouses
they
have
to,
depending
on
the
chemical
and
whatnot
they're.
There
there's
a
kind
of
like
suggested
distances
for
the
for
the
command
center
to
operate
right.
So
it's
usually
like
a
they're
pretty
much
set
based
like
a
mile
radius,
so
the
mile
would
cover.
I
don't
think
they
can
make
it
more
than
miles.
J
D
D
J
B
And-
and
that
was
just
clean
up
and-
and
I
I
I
I
agreed
with
that,
because
you
know
it
would
be
like
if,
if
you
had
to
call
the
fire
department
and
they
came
out
to
put
out
a
fire
at
your
house,
that
was
due
to
an
electrical
short
or
something
like
that.
And
then
you
get
a
bill
for
twenty.
B
L
L
Last
time
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
water
age
and
that
we're
we're
flushing
more
in
certain
areas,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
xeroscaping,
I
wouldn't
want
to
replace
revenue
water
with
non-revenue
water.
So
what
I
thought
I'd
do
is
give
you
an
idea
here
how
much
water
we
use
and
who's
using
it.
So
the
first
section
of
this
is
just
just
the
full
amount
of
water
being
used.
L
By
irrigation,
residential
is
seven
percent,
seven
point
four
percent
domestic
use,
residential
is
55
and,
and
so
commercial
domestic
is,
you
know,
used
for
their
restrooms
and
all
that
domestic
use
is
24..
So
we're
talking
about
commercial
irrigation
and
trying
to
get
that
reduced
you're
talking
about
trying
to
reduce.
What's
twelve
point,
eight
percent
of
the
water
y'all
haven't
figured
this
out
and
I
love
numbers.
I
love
math.
L
L
L
Okay
and
the
number
eight
industrial
use
and
we've
used
the
term
industrial
and
I
went-
and
you
know,
depending
on
what
dictionary
but
we're
using
the
tceq
definition
of
industrial
use,
and
that
means
it's
being
used
inside
the
plant
like.
If
I
make
I
make
concrete,
I
need
water
right,
so
we
give
them
an
irrigation
meter
because
we're
not
charging
them
sewer.
That's
the
point
of
a
different
type
style
meter.
I
don't
charge
it's
not
coming
back
to
me
to
treat
everything
through.
Your
house
comes
back
to
me
and
I
charge
you
for
it.
L
In
the
places
that
we
live,
schools,
houses,
churches,
banks,
community,
centers
right,
so
all
those
areas
I
have
good
water
use,
I
typically
don't
have
old
water.
I
usually
don't
flush
next
to
apartments
they're,
using
a
lot
of
water
or
in
your
houses.
I'm
flushing
in
other
areas.
Okay-
and
I
want
to
separate
that
I'm
just
going
to
leave
the
schools
out.
L
You
got
canva
and
you
got
lcc
and
they're
not
really
in
they
kind
of
move
those
further
out
to
the
ends.
So
we,
the
focus,
was
our
warehouse,
districts,
commercial
and
warehouse
districts,
and
that's.
I
call
that
group
seven
and
I've.
Given
you
a
map
of
those-
and
this
is
the
top
150
customers,
which
is
actually
consuming
nearly
59,
almost
60
percent
of
the
irrigation
water.
Are
these
top
150,
that's
150
out
of
1200.,
so
these
are
the
biggest
guys
that
are.
L
L
again,
warehouses
don't
use
a
lot
of
water.
Most
of
their
water
is
probably
irrigation,
and
and
yet
they
have
drinking
fountains
in
those
walk
in
those
warehouses,
they
have
a
restroom.
They
have
things
they
use
water.
So
I
want
their
water
to
be
fresh
again.
I'm
going
to
give
this
to
our
engineers
who
study
our
whole
master
plan,
but
the
warehouses,
if
I
restrict
their
water
and
make
them
go
to
zero
scaping,
I'm
probably
going
to
add
flushers
in
that
area.
L
D
L
L
L
L
Are
we
doing
it
for
both,
because
the
incentives
would
be
different
for
each
one
of
those?
If
I
were
to
incentivize
people
for
wasting
water
because
it's
scarce,
my
recommendation
would
be
to
create
irrigation
rates,
tiers
of
water
right
they're,
not
they're,
not
others.
I'd
make
them
separate,
they're,
not
separate
right
now.
I
would
make
them
separate
and
now,
if
we're
saying
that
we
need
to
incentivize
them,
I
would
a
tie
those
rates
to
the
stage
of
drop
that
we're
in
when
it
really
becomes
scarce.
L
You
know
why
reduce
revenues
if
we
have
a
lot
of
work
and
but
when
the
state
starts
saying
drought
drop
stage,
one
throughout
stage
two
and
that's
happened
before
and
we
have
to
do
and
we
talked
about
I
mentioned:
I
use
the
term
the
honor
system
right.
Our
our
conservation
plan
is
on
the
honor
system,
every
city
kind
of
does
that
you
know,
depending
on
your
house
number
you're
at
stage
one.
We
only
want
you
to
water
on
the
you
know,
monday,
wednesdays
and
fridays
and
stuff
like
that.
L
L
L
D
L
L
L
So
if
you
want
to
control
damage,
you
need
to
brace
the
stakes
and
I'm
gonna
have
to
really
you
know,
take
cameras
I
mean
I
would
want
that
if
I
would,
if
someone
was
blaming
me,
no
I've
already
played
my
irrigator.
Of
course,
if
I
buy
my
irrigator
guy
and
he
comes
out
the
plumber,
I
never
watched
contested.
L
H
L
J
B
I
mean,
as
we've
all
learned
here,
it's
way
more
complicated
than
we
thought
it
would
be,
and,
of
course
it
sounds
good
right.
Why
don't?
These
warehouses
have
xeroscape?
You
know
it's
not
they're,
not
in
areas
that
people
typically
spend
their
free
time,
and
so
it
just
kind
of
made
sense.
But
yeah
as
we
learned,
why
would
utilities
lose
revenue
and
waste
water
so
that
we
can
have
xeriscaping?
It
doesn't
make
sense
and
actually
mike-
and
I
were
talking
before
this
and
yeah.
B
D
B
Sense
to
take
somebody
who
has
that
wealth
and
say:
hey
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
give
you
a
lower
rate
if
you
use
less
water.
Actually
you
want
to
make
your
money
off
of
that
guy.
You
want
to
reduce
the
charges
for
people
that
can't
afford
it,
and
so
I
think
the
committee
needs
to
think
about
these
things.
D
D
D
L
L
Know
in
utilities,
growth
is
good
and
bad
I'll.
Give
you
a
good
example.
If
y'all
remember
highway
359,
we
had
a
boil
water
notice
out
there
for
a
long
time
when
that
line
was
decided
to
be
put
out
to
what's
the
father's
area.
L
I
don't
know
yes,
probably
would
have
done
an
eight
inch
line.
We
put
a
sixteen.
Is
that
right?
That's
sixteen.
We
put
a
16
inch
line,
that's
four
times
as
big
as
an
eight.
That's
not
eight!
That's
not
twice
right,
because
it's
the
area
that
works
four
times
too
big.
Well,
that's
water
age!
Well,
we
were
gonna,
be
planning
for
you
know
for
the
future.
We're
gonna
have
growth
and
we'll
need
it.
But
if
you
don't
you
just
shut
yourself
in
the
foot,
it's.
D
D
J
B
And-
and
that
certainly
can
be
what
the
the
committee
recommends-
the
council-
that,
if
you
don't
think
that
this,
based
on
the
fact
that
this
is
very
complex
or
if
you
want
to
as
as
more
information
comes
out,
I
think
like
what
I
was
saying
with
having
a
when
water
is
scarce,
have
water
prices
increase
so
that
we
assure
that
there's
enough
water
for
everybody
here
right?
I
think
that
makes
sense
and.
L
L
Hasn't
started
looking
at
it
yet,
but
I'm
going
to
pass
him
all
this
data
and
say
you
need
to
include
this
so
that
his
his
water
plan
is
holistic
about
all
of
our
water
use.
But
I
think
you're,
right
with
council
john
said
we
just
looked
you're
going
to
be
targeting
12.8
percent
of
our
water,
and
then
you
got
seven
groups
that
use
60
of
that
number.
But
it's
really
a
few
people,
and
do
you
really
want
to
go
after
our
parts?
D
Green,
they
make
it
better.
L
E
E
But
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
is
that,
of
course,
we
wouldn't
try
to
go
for
the
parks
and
the
hospitals,
and
you
know
those
kind
of
places
but
places
to
your
point
that
have
the
ability
to
pave
your
lease,
because
I
think
I
don't
know
all
the
logistics,
and
maybe
you
can
help
me
out.
But
I
think
water
is
there's
everywhere.
No,
and
it
should
be
a
big
concern
that
we
all
have.
L
So
it's
kind
of
scarce
that
sometimes
when
it
scares
this
really
scares-
and
you
see
the
water
tables.
L
L
L
So
I
still
think,
let's
let
the
consultant
because
they
have
a
portion
of
their
their
report
to
us
that's
going
to
review
rates,
what
other
cities
are
doing,
and
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
make
them,
earn
their
money
and
and
flush
out
a
few
more
things
for
us.
So
I
would
say
we
push
this
off
until
the
master
plan
engineer.
C
Consultant
comes
up
with
something:
is
everyone
in
agreement
that
we
table
this
issue
and
allow
us
to
run?
Yes,
great,
really
appreciate
it.
Sir.
Thank
you
item
number
seven
items
for
next
meeting
is
here.
C
No
then,
I
guess.
J
Yes,
oh
thank
you.
Yes,
I
was
just
looking
at
them
on
this
list
of
top
irrigators
by
the
way.
Yes,
I'd
like
to
add
to
next
month's
agenda
that
we
look
at
the
air
pollution
concerns
that,
according
to
a
report
that
was
made
from,
I
believe,
the
university
of
michigan
regarding
the
dangers
of
ethylene
oxide
emissions
in
our
community,
especially
in
districts,
and
I
would.