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Citizens Enviromental Advisory Committee Mtg 041421
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Okay.
The
next
item
then,
would
be
item
number
five
discussion
and
possible
action
on
recommended
changes
to
the
hazardous
materials
ordinance
to
implement
distance
requirements
from
schools,
as
well
as
to
develop
a
recommendation
on
a
distance
requirement
from
industrial
zones
for
future
school
sighting.
B
E
Good
afternoon,
everybody
thank
you
very
much
for
the
invitation
to
this
meeting
and
as
far
as
the
desirescaping
ordinance
incentives,
I
and
the
position
is,
I
know
it's
going
to
drop
our
revenues
and
it's
one
matter
of
them:
conserving
water
and
minimizing
the
overflow
from
irrigation
systems.
I
think
that's
a
benefit.
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E
One
item
that
I
know
that
we've
done
in
the
past
as
far
as
the
in,
if
they,
if
they
have
a
current
irrigation
system
and
they
want
to
go
to
xyrescaping
and
reduce
the
amount
of
water
that
they're
using,
we
may
be
able
to
give
them
a
credit
of
some
sort.
But
I
need
to
evaluate
how
it's
going
to
affect
our
fees
and
revenue.
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E
Well,
what
I
would
do
is
set
up
some
sort
of
program
for
these
existing
irrigation
systems
that
are
maybe
wasting
too
much
water
to
help
us
conserve
water
and
that
way,
if
they
do
something
and
reduce
it
to
where
they
use
different
methods
of
irrigating
bubbler
systems.
Instead
of
these
spray
heads
sure
and
where
it
you
know,
whatever
they
spent,
we
can
give
them
a
credit
on
their
bill,
but
it's
not
a
monetary
payment.
E
It's
just
a
credit
on
their
bill,
for
maybe
the
past
history
maybe
go
back
a
month,
two
months
worth
of
consumption
that
they
did
where
now
they're
going
to
use
less
flow,
but
they're
not
going
to
be
pouring
water
out
into
the
street,
like
in
some
cases
that
we've
seen.
But
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
be
able
to
get
these
irrigators
that
are
just
wasting
water
to
conserve
it
and
if
they
do,
that
effort,
maybe
reward
them
in
some
way.
E
But
I
need
to
see
how
it
impacts
our
revenue
flow
because
it
is
going
to
affect
our
revenue.
So
I
need
to
balance
it
with
what
they're
doing
to
save
water.
At
the
same
time,
make
sure
we
get
a
good
cash
flow
because
we
still
need
to
maintain
an
operator
system
so
that
that's
something
that
I'm
thinking
of
this.
D
It's
also
it's
a
complicated
problem
in
that
some
of
the
large
industrial
sites
they
they
big
warehouses
they
like
to
landscape
the
outside,
but
the
internal
domestic
water
use
is
very
low.
So
you
have
these
big
sites
and
we
have
low
water
usage.
It
means
the
water
is
being
stay
stale,
so
we
could
come
up
with
some
people
doing
xeroscaping
and
then,
in
order
to
keep
the
water
fresh,
we're
going
to
end
up
having
to
flush
it
down
the
drain.
D
So
we
have
one
side.
We
have
to
have
these
large
lines
for
fire,
hydrants
and
stuff.
We
have
these
industrial
parks
that
have
very
low
domestic
use.
The
irrigation
in
a
way
helps
us
not
flush
to
keep
the
freshness
in
the
water.
I
mean
it's
a
complicated.
You
have
to
look
at
these
areas
and
there's
multiple
layers
there.
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B
E
So
I'd
want
to
see
a
you
know
like
a
benefit
to
everyone,
not
just
the
new
development,
because
everybody's
going
to
be
saying
how
come
he's
getting
incentives
and
we're
not
giving
us
anything
because
we'd
like
for
them
to
fix
their
systems,
especially
the
ones
that
are
oversprayed.
I
know
you've
seen
that
situation.
C
Would
it
be
possible
to
not
mandate
or
perhaps
encourage?
I
don't
know
if
mandate
is
too
strong
a
word?
I
think
you
use
the
word
bubbler
systems
for
new
developments
of
warehouses,
warehousing
areas
so
that
they
wouldn't
put
the
the
sprinkler,
I'm
not
sure
what
they're
using
now
but
for
future
warehouse
development.
Could
there
be
something
in
place
where
they
would
have
to
provide
bubbler
systems
and
just
make
it
a
little
bit
more
environmentally
friendly
as
you're
trying
to
avoid
that
overspray?
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A
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E
B
A
C
B
We
on
the
last
meeting
we
we,
you
know
briefly,
went
over
it
and
and
the
I
think
the
committee
wanted
to
to
look.
Do
some
independent
research
on
it
and
try
and
figure
out
what
would
be
an
acceptable
distance,
and
I
know
that
joanne
had
emailed
me
some
some
items
and
it
looks
like
she
she's
done
some
research.
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C
Yes,
john,
that's
good!
Okay,
can
it
be
enlarged
or
just
too
small
for
me,
okay,
thank
you!
Well,
as
you
can
see,
and
at
the
top
I'm
not
sure
john
does
it
say
249
sites
out
of
600
something
yeah
and
that's
within
the
two
miles
of
mueller
and
that's
sort
of
scary
now
granted
those
have
already
happened,
and
I
know
that,
according
to
the
hazardous
materials
ordinance,
I
know
people
are
in
place
to
monitor.
C
I
think
I
read
that
you
must
you
have
to
get
a
permit
every
year,
so
I
know
the
city
probably
has
a
handle,
or
I
would
hope
has
a
handle
on.
That
is
a
huge
I'm
overwhelmed
by
by
that
picture
and
overwhelmed
by
what
it
would
require
to
just
continue
enforcement
of
this.
Can
you
speak
to
that
at
all
john?
How
is
enforcement
done
on
that.
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B
Then
we
they
have
to
keep
their
inventories
up
to
date,
it's
all
online,
but
then
our
inspectors
go
out
and
and
they
also
have
to
have
a
site
plan
and
then
so
our
inspectors
go
out
and
they
use
that
inventory
to
cross-reference
what
they
actually
have
in
their
warehouses.
And
then
they
check
for
condition
of
the
you
know
the
drums
and
the
packages
and
to
make
sure
that
it's
being
stored.
C
B
B
B
C
B
C
B
Go
ahead.
Well,
I
was
gonna
say
with
this
two
mile
radius.
I
mean
that
is
a
lot
and
obviously
that
would
make
sense,
because
the
bulk
of
the
developments
in
this
area
are
it
is
industrial
and-
and
I
think,
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
site
distance
requirements
from
schools,
I
think
two
miles
is
probably
not
a
equitable
or
a
reasonable
site
distance.
C
I
I
happen
to
have
some
information
about
a
builder.
I
I'm
not
able
to
disclose
who
gave
it
to
me,
but
I've
been
trying
to
research
with
national
home
builders
association
just
to
get
some
idea.
Some
of
the
builders
do
have
2
000
square
feet.
They
cannot
build
within
a
2,
000
square
feet,
radius
of
a
known,
hazardous
chemical
and
that's
very
that's
half
a
mile.
So
that
seems
very
small
again.
C
The
other
thing
that
I
guess
for
the
purpose
of
this
conversation
is,
I
think
it
would
be
wise
to
work
with
uist,
since
they
are
the
ones
who
would
be
building
schools
here
and
maybe
get
some
feedback
from
them
as
well.
But
I
I
don't
know
I'm
concerned
because,
for
example,
green
ranch,
those
who
aren't
familiar
with
the
residential
properties
out
here.
C
Let
me
just
share:
there's
wolf,
creek
green
ranch,
lobota
to
name
a
few,
and
they
only
have
one
entrance
and
one
exit,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
this
conversation
has
come
about
for
years
because
of
that
very
concerned.
Should
there
be
a
problem
with
a
you
know,
a
hazardous
chemical
that
you
know
some
reason.
There's
an
accident
or
whatever
and
of
course
there
is
a
school
and
that's
what
concerned
many
people
and
as
we
get
going
to
more
schools
are
built.
We
must
be
cognizant.
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C
Oh
that's
my
feedback
on
that.
I
also
through
trish
cortez,
because
she
does
this
research
on
a
regular
basis,
and
I
depend
on
her
for
her
research
in
that
email.
John,
she
mentioned
there
are
plants
located
within
the
mines.
Road
industrial
zone,
like
medline,
flash
midwest
sterilization
that
are
releasing
significant
carcinogenic
emissions
into
the
atmosphere.
Ethylene
oxide
and
laredo's
plant
is
the
third
largest
emitter
in
the
country.
B
Yeah-
and
I
I
I
I
under
our
permit,
we
have
to-
we
have
to
inspect.
I
think
it's
title
three,
and
so
I
think
that
shows
that
that
facility-
and
it
shows,
I
want
to
say
another
facility
out
in
the
unitec
area,
but
that
medline,
I
think
that
those
numbers
are
coming
from-
are
being
reported
from
the
national
branch
of
that,
because
they
don't
actually
do
the
processing
there.
B
Yeah
and-
and
so
I
I
was
surprised
too,
when
I
was
looking
at
the
air
quality
and
then
we
go
to
inspect
and
that
doesn't
fall
under
by
the
way
that
doesn't
fall
under
the
the
hazmat
permit,
because
they're
not
storing
that
there,
and
so
I'm
thinking
that
that
those
numbers
that
and-
and
I
think
tricia
got
that
from
the
title.
Three
is
probably
the
national
emission
from
from
that
company.
A
And
I
I
think
for
purposes
of
our
discussion,
I
think
it
may
be
useful
to
differentiate
between
you
know:
locations
that
store
hazardous
materials
as
opposed
to
locations
that
actually,
you
know,
emit
some
sort
of
hazardous
material.
You
know,
because
you
know
where
hazardous
materials
are
stored,
whether
it's
potentiality
or
some.
You
know
some
dangerous
condition
to
arise.
Usually
it
doesn't,
as
opposed
to
you
know
the
situation
that
you
just
described,
miss
miss
beeland.
You
know
where
there's
some
place,
that's
you
know
actively
putting
out
something
noxious
on
a
daily
basis.
A
You
know,
and
so
you
know,
if
we
I
I'm
afraid
that
if
we
fight
off
more
that
we
can
chew
we'll
end
up
with
something.
That's
really
something
of
a
blunt
instrument.
That's
maybe
not
so
useful
and
keeping
you
know
as
far
as
keeping
children
safe
and
allowing
us
places
to
build
schools,
which
we
apparently
need
to
do
all
the
time.
B
B
About
epa,
they
regulate
pollution,
they
regulate
emissions,
they
regulate
hazardous
waste,
hazardous
waste
emissions
and
pollution
is
not
the
same
thing
as
hazardous
materials.
Hazardous
materials
is
regulated
by
by
the
city,
obviously,
but
is
regulated
by
the
department
of
transportation
and
so
under
federal
and
under
states,
and
even
under
city
law.
There's
a
clear
difference
between
those
those
you
know
those
those
chemicals.
C
Just
a
suggestion-
and
I
just
want
to
add
one
last
thought-
listening
to
about
the
enforcement
side
of
things
four
times
a
year
and
maybe
more
and
so
forth-
it's
such
a
daunting
task
to
try
to
keep
up
with
all
of
these
sites.
I
can't
even
imagine
the
volume
of
work
that's
required,
but
if
we
do
decide
on
a
distance,
perhaps
as
a
committee
I'm,
I
definitely
think
for
future
development.
It
should
be.
It
should
be
considered,
at
least
a
mile,
to
give
I'm
even
nervous
about
that.
C
I
realize
there's
already
places
that
store
hazardous
materials.
This
is
a
very
difficult
task
that
we
are
faced
with,
because
I
don't
feel
like
I'm
very
knowledgeable,
I'm
just
beginning
to
research
more
on
this,
but
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
poor
traffic
flow
that
we
have
right
now
and
I
know
in
two
years
we're
supposed
to
get
a
connector,
but
in
the
meantime
there
is
a
school.
That's
going
to
get
started.
Construction
will
start.
B
B
C
B
B
A
A
A
B
C
C
C
C
C
C
I
guess
it
was
yesterday
and
parked
ourselves
alongside
the
road
and
wanted
to
see
what
it
looked
like,
and
so
I
sent
john
these
pictures
and
what
I
noticed
or
what
my
husband
and
I
observed
is
that
we
couldn't
see
any
drivers,
so
it's
like,
I
think,
john
or
someone
mentioned
before
they're
actually
pulling
over
and
resting,
because
we
probably
don't
have
enough
resting
areas
for
these
truck
drivers.
So
if
you
can
continue
down
with
the
pictures
I
mean
some
of
them
are
all.
C
C
C
Yeah,
so
I
thought:
hey,
we
get
some
good
stuff
around
here
too,
but
notice.
It's
sad
because
there's
trash,
but
I
will
say
in
my
email
to
john,
I
didn't
see
any
jugs
of
liquid
that
used
to
be
what
we
thought
looked
like
urine,
but
I'm
just
saying
they
appeared
to
be,
but
you
can
see
they're
still
trash
and
I
know
when
causes
some
of
that.
You'll
also
notice,
as
john
mentioned
before,
it
appears
the
killams
are
opening
or
getting
some
clearing
done
for
future
development.