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Citizens Environmental Advisory Meeting 102820
A
Yeah,
I
I
haven't
gotten
a
response
right.
I
only
got
one
response
and
wrestles
excuse
me:
richard's
not
going
to
be
able
to
make
it,
but
we
won't
have
a
quorum,
but
I
I
think
I
think
you
can
present
and
we'll
see
if
you
get
any
other
members
that
get
online.
B
B
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
turn
it
over
to
tom
and
let
him
start
with
the
integrated
water
master
plan
and
at
some
point
in
that
presentation
that
we
have
we're
going
to
focus
in
on
the
alternative
water
sources,
which
I
think
is
something
that
the
sea
act
would
be
really
interested
in
primarily
since
we're
looking
at
secondary
water
and
reclamation
and
reuse
and
some
of
the
other
sources
that
might
be
available
to
us.
So
tom.
All
yours.
E
D
Okay,
this
is
just
the
time
for
the
12
15
train
that
comes
behind
my
office.
So
let
me
apologize
for
that
in
the
in,
but
anyway
great
to
be
here
we'll
go
quickly
through
these
slides.
D
As
you
can
see,
this
is
focused
on
the
water
supply
strategies
that
the
city
is
looking
at
both
for
emergency
water
supply,
as
well
as
supplemental
water
supply
or
secondary
waters,
water
supply
and
we'll
talk
in
just
a
minute
a
little
bit
about
the
difference
in
those
two
types
of
water
supply.
D
We're
going
to
make
this
presentation
to
the
city
council,
it's
excellent
that
we're
being
able
to
bring
this
to
you
first
get
your
comments
and
direction.
So
please,
as
we
go
through,
if
you
have
issues
or
questions,
see
things
that
we've
overlooked
or
not
looking
at
in
terms,
particularly
in
terms
of
environmental
impacts
of
some
of
these
alternatives,
be
sure
to
send
us
a
note.
D
D
The
region
m
regional
planning
process,
in
conjunction
with
the
water
development
board,
has
looked
at
projections
for
laredo
as
those
updated
in
their
2021
plan
and,
as
you
can
see,
around
300
000
today,
growing
to
over
six
hundred
thousand
doubling
by
the
year
2050
and
how
this
is.
How
does
the
city's
water
supply
meet
the
demands
that
will
come
from
both
the
population
and
also
with
this
comes
some
industrial
growth,
commercial
growth,
those
types
of
activities
that
have
water
demand.
D
This
is
a
table
out
of
the
region,
implant.
This
shows
the
it
says
lug
up
there.
That's
that
essentially,
is
laredo.
D
So
you
can
see
the
demand
that
the
numbers
there
are
in
acre
feet
per
year,
which
is
how
plans
how
the
water
development
board
anyway
develops
their
plans
an
acre
feet
per
year.
D
Roughly,
if,
if
we
wanted
to
look
at
42
000
acre
feet,
that
would
be
about
more
or
less
divide
that
by
170,
so
at
39
mgd,
something
like
that,
so
the
average
and
that's
an
average
demand.
You
can
see
the
other
categories
for
irrigation,
manufacturing,
etc.
See.
There's
total
demands
there
and
importantly
down
at
the
bottom.
Is
the
is
the
amount
of
water
supply
that's
available
after
you
meet
these
demands?
D
As
you
go
across,
you
see
the
city's
done
a
pretty
good
job
of
keeping
a
sus
a
a
substantial
amount
of
reserve
water
supply,
they're
18
about
18
000,
acre
feet
of
supply,
greater
than
their
total
demand
and
then,
as
we
grow
as
little
radio
grows
that
decreases,
and
you
can
see
when
you
reach.
D
About
20
45,
or
so
it
crosses
a
line
where
more
water
supply
is
going
to
be
needed.
That's
supplemental
water
supply.
That's
going
to
be
needed
for
the
city
of
laredo,
here's
another
way
of
looking
at
it.
It
shows
that
same
type
of
of
numbers
anyway,
and
a
graph
to
show
you
where,
where
you
cross
the
line
in
terms
of
needing
needing
more
water
supply,
and
if
I
get
my
cursor
over
there
here,
we
go.
D
D
Currently,
it's
essentially
a
sole
source,
water
supply,
it's
the
rio
grande,
and
if
that
diversion
is
interrupted
for
any
amount
of
time
then
and
the
emergency
water
supply
is
needed.
Certainly
you
would
trigger
your
drought
contingency
plan.
You
would
trigger
some
severe
or
very
aggressive,
let's
say
conservation
efforts
to
stretch
whatever
water
you've
got
stored
in
your
system
for
as
long
as
you
can,
but
if
you
have
a
significant
outage,
a
damage
to
the
system,
a
contamination
to
the
system
that
requires
some
extended
amount
of
time.
D
D
Okay,
I'll,
move
on
now
whoops.
I
don't
want
to
move
that
quickly,
though
here
we
go.
These
are
the
strategies
that
we've
been
looking
at
kind
of
focusing
on,
but
a
number
of
these
are
not
boom.
We're
not
redeveloping
re
reinventing
the
wheel
by
any
means
on
this.
We're
trying
to
learn
from
the
past
update
those
reports
where
it's
appropriate
and
identify
strategies
that
will
help
meet
both
the
emergency
and
the
supplemental.
D
Okay,
here's
what
we're
looking
at
lake
casablanca
has
been
looked
at
through
the
years.
A
number
of
different
studies
we'll
tell
you
kind
of
what
we're
finding
there.
Our
groundwater
has
also
been
looked
at.
There's
been
a
number
of
studies,
both
local
groundwater,
and,
when
I
say
local,
I'm
talking
about
webb
county
primarily
imported
groundwater
is
where
you
get
about
100
150
miles,
which
you
get
into
nice.
A
A
Corruption
back
back
to
you,
okay,.
D
A
D
John
just
going
through
the
various
alternatives
where
we're
looking
at
emergency
water
rights
as
well.
D
Looking
at
at
the
rio
grande
river,
all
right,
I
want
to
start
with
lake
casablanca
a
lot
of
talk
about
using
lake
casablanca
as
an
emergency
water
supply
bottom
line
is
there
are
a
lot
of
challenges,
restrictions,
constraints
on
being
able
to
do
that,
and
they
primarily
have
to
do
with
the
the
the
quantity
of
water
supply
that
could
be
generated
by
lake
casablanca
that
that
lake
was
constructed
back
in
the
1950s,
and
since
that
time
there
has
been
significant
filtration
in
the
lake.
D
So
the
capacity
which
started
out
at
around
twenty
thousand
acre
feet
a
volume
there
has
decreased
by
at
least
half
and
there's
not
good
numbers
on
how
much
it's
decreased.
But
that's
an
estimate.
Some
of
the
latest
estimates
are
by
at
least
half
so
the
amount
of
water
supply,
dependable
water
supply,
severely
limited.
D
There
have
been
work.
Two
different
types
of
work
have
been
done
on
the
availability
on
the
capacity
of
lake
casablanca,
on
the
evaporation
on
the
the
need
and
the
cost
of
dredging
to
gain
back
that
capacity.
D
And
if
you
can
look
at
this
up
on
the
slide,
it's
a
thousand
acre
feet
of
capacity
can
be
dredged
added,
but
it
the
cost
is
going
to
be
around
three
million
dollars
per
acre
foot.
D
The
the
amount
by
by
by
permit
there
is
a
water
rights
permit
on
lake
casablanca
which
allows
the
diversion
of
600
acre
feet,
600,
which
is
about
500.
D
D
It
is
more
than
likely
so
the
the
cost
of
dredging
added
on
to
the
limited
supply,
plus
we
have
to
take
the
water
from
lake
to
the
water
treatment
plant
at
jefferson,
and
that
is
a
substantial
cost.
We've
done
some
preliminary
very
preliminary
numbers,
but
that's
about
a
50
million
dollar
system
pipeline
system.
You
get
water
from
lake
casablanca
through
the
jefferson
plant.
D
F
D
D
Excited
about
one
that
is
due
to
the
portfolio
of
options
for
laredo
is
the
northern
webb
county
area,
the
general
area,
our
groundwater
hydrologist,
has
identified
an
area
of
six
to
ten
thousand
acres
that
could
potentially
provide
good
quality,
not
the
best
quality
but
good
quality.
D
Potable
karizo
wilcox
ground
water,
on
the
defensive
bases,
we're
up
to
25
000
acre
feet,
that's
22.3,
mgd,
and
the
issue
is
that
one
of
the
issues
we're
looking
at
is
the
distance
it's
40.
Roughly
and
again,
these
are
just
rough
numbers
to
give
us
a
conceptual
cost
for
these
projects,
how
you
would
actually
go
about
delivering
water
from
northwest
county
to
the
lolito
system.
D
They
were
looking
at
a
a
geographical
distance
of
40
miles,
but
that
would
require
about
47
miles,
probably
of
pipeline
to
get
into
the
laredo
system
maps
on
the
on
the
right
again,
those
are
schematics.
Those
are
conceptual.
Those
are
you
know
the
next
step.
If
this
is
an
option
that
the
city
management
wants
to
pursue,
more
detailed
studies
would
be
needed
to
identify
locations
and
alignments
pipelines.
D
D
D
The
current
supply,
I
think
john,
is
closer
to
a
dollar
a
thousand
gallons,
so
we're
looking
at
a
water
supply
here
that
may
come
in
around
three
dollars:
a
thousand
three
times
that
amount.
However,
if
you
have
that
emergency,
where
you
do
you
cannot
develop,
you
cannot
use
the
reaper
and
supply.
This
is
an
option.
D
These
are
average
day
numbers
on
average.
You
could
provide
the
entire
year
22
mgd,
but
for
a
peak
pumping
peak
day
demand
a
33
mgd
and
it
could
provide
that
for
eight
months,
so
you
have
a
substantial
increase
in
the
amount
of
time
you
have
available
with
this
type
of
supply
to
meet
and
correct
any
problems
you
might
have
on
the
rio
grande
all
right.
D
D
D
Although
not
although
drinkable
it's
going
to
have
some
taste
in
order
and
some
other
issues,
it
can
be
blended
into
the
laredo
system.
But
you
know
there
are
some
issues
with
doing
that
and
we'll
be
developing
this
one.
D
D
A
couple
other
local
groundwater-
there
is
brackish
groundwater
out
there
that's
been
looked
at
in
other
studies.
This
is
where
the
the
water
quality
gets.
Even
less
rust,
quality
and
mineralization
demineralization
treatment
is
is
required,
which
makes
this
a
very
costly
option.
Other
for
storage
and
recovery.
D
D
D
Ch2M
hill
did
that
report
back
in
the
mid
90s
we're
going
to
update
it,
but
we
think
the
sands
are
tight.
We
don't
know
our
groundwater.
Hydrologist
has
has
looked
at
this
to
some
extent
and
doesn't
see
a
good
recovery
rate.
So
you
have
slow
injection
and
slow
recovery,
making
this
a
a
very
marginal
option
to
look
at.
D
We're
going
to
update
the
findings
of
these
reports.
Our
groundwater
hydrologists
involved
is
familiar
with
all
of
them,
but
there
are
a
long
ways
away.
You
can
see
the
closest
in
dimmitt
county
is
70
miles
away,
so
it
has
probably
the
highest
feasibility
of
these
three,
maybe
in
terms
surely
in
terms
of
its
proximity
they're.
Also
the
the
two
projects
that
have
been
looked
at
extensively
in
kenny
county
and
one
in
velvet
county.
These
are
good
quality
water.
There
is
a
lot
of
water
available,
but
again
it's
the
distance
involved.
That
is
the
problem.
D
Here
is
the
reuse.
This
is
an
important
option
for
the
it's
a
supplemental
option.
D
It's
this
is
straight
out
of
the
region
m
plan
and
it
shows
that
the
south
loreto
waste
charge
treatment
plant,
a
indirect
potable
reuse
option
can
be
phased
in
starting
in
2040,
and
you
remember
that
the
line
where
we
cross
the
available
water
supply
and
demand
that
cross
that
that
that
line
crosses
around
2040
to
2043
or
so
so.
D
D
Finally,
we
will
continue
to
look
at
the
at
the
real
ground.
There
are
water
rights
there,
we'll
look
at
the
potential
of
a
low
water
rear
our
issue,
our
options
of
that
sort,
we're
just
getting
started
on
that
on.
Looking
at
those
options
we'll
we
do
have
a
surface
water
expert
on
board
who
understands
the
rio
grande
and
is
doing
the
the
water
availability
modeling
for
the
state.
D
We
will
we'll
look
at
those
results
see
if,
but
I
I
would
think
here
we
would
continue
the
city.
We
continue
to
look
at
the
opportunity
to
acquire
additional
water
rights
that
might
become
available,
so
those
I
think
gene
are
the
is
a
quick
john
is
a
quick
overview
of
what
we're
looking
at
in
terms
of
the
water
supply
alternatives
for
for
the
city
of
laredo
and
tom.
That's
correct
at
this
point:
if,
if
there's
any
questions
on
that
on
those,
if
not
we
move,
we
can.
B
Thanks
tom,
I
think
you
know
some
of
the
questions
that
I
that
are
going
to
be
incorporated
into
the
public.
Outreach
are
definitely
going
to
deal
with
this
particular
area
of
alternative
water
sources
and
emergency
water
sources.
So
for
the
committee,
do
you
all
have
any
questions
about
that?
Any
concerns
you
have
about?
You
know
secondary
water
and
its
cost
and
and
emergency
water
and
its
availability,
things
that
you
would
want
us
one
to
address
in
the
study
and
then.
B
Secondly,
these
may
be
questions
that
we
can
add
to
our
public
outreach
to
see
how
the
community
feels
about
some
of
the
items
that
you
all
are
most
focused
on.
Obviously,
the
environmental
impacts
of
the
rio
grande
and
what
would
happen
to
it
if
water
would
be
diverted
or
withheld
by
mexico
or
if
the
water
became
contaminated
or
if
it
just
wasn't
available
to
us
for
other
climate
reasons,
how
the
city
loreto
can
address
those
particular
items
as
they
relate
to
you.
All's
concerns
in
the
environmental
advisory
committee.
B
Oh
okay,
all
right,
so
the
as,
as
I
said
earlier
for
those
of
you
who
joined
the
meeting,
we
are
conducting
a
integrated
water
master
plan.
There
is
also
a
wastewater
component.
That's
coming
on
soon
where
the
city
is
going
to
look
at
its
entire
entire
system,
its
projections
from
extra
fields
and
create
a
master
plan
that
will
be
a
living
breathing
document
that'll.
That
will
be
used
to
implement
a
strategy
for
the
next
50
years.
B
Part
of
what
we're
tasked
with
doing
our
group
studio
group
is
to
have
public
and
stakeholder
outreach
components.
So
what
we
are
doing
is
we
launched
a
website
back
in
july?
B
It
is
a
dynamic
website
that
is,
it
is
going
to
be
under
construction
all
the
way
through,
because,
ultimately,
it
will
be
the
repository
for
the
master
plan,
both
water
and
wastewater,
a
source
where
people
can
come
see.
The
plan
download
the
plan
make
comment
to
the
plan,
and
so,
as
it's
being
developed
it
will.
B
Those
components
will
be
added
to
the
website
and
so
you'll
see
changes
on
a
regular
basis
and
we'll
be
producing
those
changes
and
publishing
those
changes
through
our
social
media,
which
we
also
launched
back
in
july,
and
we
have
begun
to
do
education,
pieces
and
slowly
but
thoroughly
craft,
a
survey
or
a
series
of
surveys
that
we
will
be
using
for
public
outreach,
and
so
this
last
month
or
this
month
here
october,
we
launched
our
surveys,
and
so
we
have
10
section
about
100
questions
total
in
that
survey
that
deals
with
everything
in
utilities
from
billing
and
water
rates
and
customer
service
all
the
way
down
to
the
secondary
and
emergency
water
sources.
B
B
You
all
are
the
first
committee
that
has
seen
this
presentation
on
secondary
water
and
will
probably
be
one
of
the
first
ones
that
sees
the
master
plan.
B
Once
it's
drafted,
we
will
be
having
these
stakeholder
outreach
meetings
commit
working
through
the
committees
and
in
january
we
will
go
out
to
the
public
in
town
hall
meetings,
albeit
there
will
be
virtual
town
hall
meetings
when
we
first
propose
this
back
in
2019,
we
were
hoping
to
do
live
meetings
and
have
people
come
in
and
fill
out,
surveys
on
ipads
or
our
kiosk
screens,
but
we've
since
have
transitioned
now
to
virtual
virtual
town
halls,
where
we'll
have
the
links
to
the
surveys
to
the
website,
we'll
have
powerpoint
presentations,
we'll
hold
webinars
and
we're
also
going
to
incentivize
the
community
to
come
to
those.
B
Once
those
have
been
completed,
we'll
submit
our
findings
to
them
and
they
will
be
incorporated
into
the
master
plan
and,
ultimately,
by
summer
2021,
we
will
begin
to
disseminate
all
of
the
features
of
the
master
plan,
as
well
as
all
the
feedback
we
got
from
the
community
as
it
is
incorporated
into
the
water
and
wastewater
master
plan
for
the
next
50
years.
So
tom.
If
you
move
to
the
next
slide,
I
can
kind
of
show
just
some
of
the
things
that
we
were
doing
in
terms
of
engagement.
B
You
know
we're
going
to
have
a
town
hall
series
input
in
january
2021
output,
hopefully
in
the
summer
of
2021,
that
is
where
we
we
present
the
findings
in
draft
form
for
the
water
master
plan
and
then,
ultimately,
the
project
deliverables
are
due
in
september
of
next
year,
we're
going
to
have
a
series
of
incentives
that
are
built
into
these
town
hall
meetings
and
surveys.
Hopefully,
people
will
take
advantage
of
it
and
give
us
their
feedback,
we're
hoping
that
you
all
help
promote
the
surveys.
B
B
We
have
the
ability
to
add
additional
surveys
and
do
polling
through
social
media
and
the
website
we'll
be
doing
quite
a
bit
of
advertising
to
try
to
get
these
psas
out
there
and
get
folks
to
participate
in
the
town
halls
as
well
as
in
the
the
surveys,
tell
them
if
you'll
go
to
the
next
slide.
There
is
a
website
morenowwater.org.
B
B
Some
preliminary
findings
will
be
put
out
so
that
can
generate
discussion
and
ultimately,
we
will
use
that
to
disseminate
the
final
draft
of
the
master
plan
when
completed
so,
hopefully,
we'll
have
a
robust
database
that
we
can
use
to
send
that
out
to
folks
and
obviously
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
engage
with
us.
These
are
just
some
of
the
draft
ads
that
we
have,
that
will
be
run
through
social
media,
facebook,
instagram,
twitter,
linkedin
and
youtube
or
through
the
google
channels
as
well.
B
B
And
again
any
questions
tom
and
his
team
are
going
to
be
available
for
all
the
technical
questions,
obviously,
on
the
public,
outreach
for
dates
and
information,
they'll
be
posted
on
the
website
and
I'll
be
available
as
well.
To
answer
any
questions
regarding
ones
and
that's
our
presentation.
A
I've
got
a
question
I
guess
gene
or
or
tom,
so
I'm
on
the
water.
Are
you
looking
at
current
water
use?
Are
you
looking
at
trends?
I
I
would
imagine
that
water
use,
it
seems
like
water
use,
continues
to
decrease
per
person,
but
have
you
looked
at
you
know,
I
don't
know,
maybe
the
effects
of
xeriscaping
or
building
code
requirements
like
rain
water,
harvesting
or
ac
condensate
reuse?
A
How
about
like
using
effluent
or
irrigation?
Have
you
incorporated
those
into
into
this
plan.
D
D
Those
projections
include
the
the
conservation.
They
include
climate
change
issues
that
that
affect
demand
in
a
number
of
those
types
of
things.
Water
harvesting
is
one
of
those
issues,
that's
included
indirectly,
so,
to
the
extent
that
the
region
impact
region
implant
does
a
good
job
and
and
maria
sits
on
the
region
m
plan.
So
he
kind
of
directs
traffic
on
that
and
has
looked
at.
Those
projections
has
been
satisfied
enough
that
they
are
representative
of
what
we
need
to
be
planning
for
in
the
future
that
he
has
rec.
D
He
has
told
us,
go
ahead
and
use
the
region
m
projections
as
we
get
into
the
master
plan
and
we
didn't
get
into
the
to
the
modeling
issues,
but
the
model,
the
hydraulic
model,
that's
being
developed
with
the
city
utility
folks
with
arturo
and
others,
will
identify
differences
within
different
areas
of
the
city.
It
will
also
in
terms
of
water
use
water
demand.
F
D
All
right,
I
think,
you're
talking
about
the
what
the
north
web,
I
you're
kind
of
breaking
up
on
me
a
little
bit
you're
talking
about
the
northwest
county
area.
D
Yeah,
I
I
think,
maybe
part
of
it
is
that
we've
looked
we've
actually
done.
Some
preliminary
conceptual
cost
estimating
on
this.
That's
what
these
are
this.
This
is
setting
a
a
field,
a
well
filled
out
with
12
or
so
wells-
I
guess
maybe
a
few
more,
but
between
12
and
20
wells
are
going
to
be
needed
and
the
cost
of
those
in
today's
dollars,
as
well
as
the
pipeline.
Here,
that's
a
42
inch
pipeline
47
miles
in
today's
dollars.
D
So
I
think
what
may
be
reflected
here
and
when
I
said
it
was
what
a
184
million
dollars
capital
cost
that
had
to
do
with
today's
dollars
and
I
think
some
of
the
projects
we've
looked
at
are
in
in
dollars.
That
are
you
know
back
when
the
time
of
that
study
was
done.
D
Part
of
our
job
is
to
update
those
costs.
So
you've
got
a
very
good
point.
We
want
to
make
sure
the
costs
are
in
the
same
the
same
dollars
during
the
taken
to
the
same
year
for
comparison
purposes
and
that's
still
in
progress.
C
Mr
ray,
I
have
a
question,
sir.
My
name
is
russell
jordan,
and
does
your
plan
call
for
the
purchase
of
this
entire
piece
of
property,
or
would
it
be
more
like
an
easement
or
something
or
would
be,
would
be
looking
to
purchase
like
a
right
to
take
water
off
of
the
property
and.
D
D
So
there
is
a
cost,
there's
a
cost
of
actually
acquiring
those
leases,
as
well
as
servicing
those
leases
over
time.
So
that's
involved,
but
mr
jordan,
we're
not
looking
at
a
specific
piece
of
property,
we're
looking
at
a
general
area.
I
wanted
to
make
that
clear.
We
know
from
our
hydro
geologists
that
this
this
general
area
of
extreme
north
webb
county,
is
in
a
a
nice
part
of
the
carriza
wilcox
in
terms
of
quantity
as
well
as
quality.
D
There
is
an
opportunity
that
we
wanted
to
present
to
the
city
of
looking
into
this
area,
the
city
making
the
decision
on
whether
to
pursue
that
and
pursue
acquiring
groundwater
leases
so
that
you
could
develop
this.
This
whale
feel
that's
a
that's
a
major
challenge.
We've
we've
done
that
in
different
areas
in
gonzales
county
in
different
places
it,
but
it
can
be
done.
It
takes
some
time.
It
takes
some
work,
but
you
don't
have
to
go
out
and
buy
one
piece
of
property.
D
You
have
to
go
out
and
deal
with
the
number
of
a
number
of
landowners
under
this
scenario,
so
that
that's
kind
of
what
we're
looking
at
we're
saying
this
is
an
area
again
about
six
to
eight
thousand
acres
over
in
this
area.
D
Can
we
can
we
find
you
know
landowners
that
that
will
are
willing
to
enter
into
leases
long-term
leases
with
the
city
to
allow
the
city
to
develop
that
ground
and
export
it?
Well,
it's
actually
to
transport
it
to
to
the
city's
system.
D
D
A
Well,
thank
you
again
and
I
think
jeff
might
have.
E
E
D
All
right,
I
think,
I
think,
maybe
the
better
answer
to
that
would
be
that.
Would
we
we'll
take
direction
from
the
city
on
that
you
know
and
we
haven't
been
directed
to
coordinate
with
with
nuevo
oreva
yeah.
D
You
know
we're
monitoring
that
we
know
that
to
be
an
issue,
but
when
we
start
looking
at
emergency
supplies
and
supplemental
supplies
for
that
matter,
those
take
into
account
or
help
us
to
mitigate
some
of
the
potential
impacts
of
what
you're
talking
about
either
from
development
or
later
or
further.
You
know
for
the
entire
rio
grande
and
watershed
of
mexico.
B
Let
me
ask
that
jeff
is
that
more
than
likely,
I
would
imagine
that
the
water
development
board
and
the
ibwc
that
contribute
to
the
rich
and
m
projections
have
probably
factored
some
of
that
in.
But
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
point
well
taken
for
us
to
discuss
with
ria
and
management
on
whether
or
not
we
we
might
want
to
reach
across
and
get
some
information
from
those
folks
that
could
be
beneficial
to
our
master
plan.
E
A
Okay,
well,
if
there,
if
there's
no
any,
there
aren't
any
other
questions.
Thank
you
again.
B
Thanks
for
the
opportunity
guys
to
present
to
y'all
and
again
lorettawater.loaderwater.org,
if
you
have
any
questions
for
us
anything
you'd
like
for
us
to
run
up
the
flagpole
either
with
tom's
group
or
with
the
city
management
or
in
the
public
state
and
stakeholder
outreach
areas,
please
by
all
means
email
us
we'll
get
back
to
you
as
soon
as
possible.
A
C
A
Okay,
so
I
guess,
let
me
just
read
off
the
present
mr
jordan
is
present
as
brewster's
present.
Mr
jones
is
president
and
mr
vanegas
is
president
and
rubio
was
present
and
hopefully
she'll
join
it
again,
okay.
A
Well.
The
next
item
is
a
presentation
by
caroline
vasquez,
from
environmental
she's
been
working
on
a
grant
that
we're
submitting
to
the
parks
and
wildlife,
and
we
just
wanted
to
give
a
brief
overview
of
the
project.
Essentially,
it's
it's
going
to
be
building
a
boardwalk
in
an
area
of
chicken
creek.
G
Okay,
so
caroline
vosk
is
a
proper
coordinator
for
environmental
services,
so
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
give
a
presentation
for
our
proposal
that
will
be
turned
in
november.
Six.
The
decision
in
regards
to
the
state
grant
will
not
be
until
early
2021
and
then
contract
will
be
sent
out
summer
of
2021
as
well.
So
I'll
go
ahead
and
begin
really
quick.
I
know
we're
short
on
time.
We're
almost
there,
I'm
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
give
you
as
much
information
as
possible
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
begin.
G
Okay,
if
at
any
point
please
interrupt
you,
then
the
line
cuts
off,
or
you
can't
hear
me
as
well
so
in
regards
to
this
project
proposal
for
this
brand,
it
will
be
the
chicon
lake
wetland.
Boardwalk
environmental
services
is
the
applying
party
for
this
brand.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
begin
quickly
to
get
as
much
information
as
possible.
This
is
a
texas
parks
and
wildlife
grant.
This
is
the
first
time
that
our
department
is
going
for
this
grant.
G
With
the
local
park
grant
program,
it
is
50
federally
funded
and
50
state
funded.
It
is
to
develop
or
acquire
public
land
in
order
to
develop,
create,
propose
a
public
recreation
area
is
a
50
matching
grant
so.
G
Must
be
dedicated
to
the
land
and
water
conservation
fund
from
the
federal
grant.
G
And
texas
parks
and
wildlife
as
well,
the
main
components
of
this
project
is
that
it
must
feel
like
it
says
right
here.
A
critical
recreational
gap
in
the
community
as
one
must
be
safely
accessible
to
the
public
and
meet
up
with
the
american
disabilities
act
as
well,
and
if
there's
any
questions
again,
we
can
go
ahead
and
answer
them
at
the
end.
G
But
this
is
the
first
time
as
well
after
I
did
some
research
that
the
city
will
be
applying
for
this
local
park
grant
program,
which
is
interesting
and
in
regards
to
this
grant.
So
in
regards
to
our
needs
for
the
city.
So
let's
go
ahead
and,
of
course
this
is
from
the
2017
comprehensive
laredo
planning
master
plan.
E
G
We
do
have
an
over
30
percent
poverty
level.
Our
paying
age
is
a
28.3,
as
you
can
see
about
less
than
40
000
for
household
income
for
the
city
and
one
of
the
most
interesting
components
of
the
grant
that
we
worked
on
was
high
school
degree
or
higher
is
education
for
65.4
percent
or
less
so.
G
Another
component
here
was
this
is
from
the
2020
parks
master
plan.
These
were
benefits
and
components
that
they
were
looking
for
in
regards
to
recreational
activity
for
the
future
of
laredo.
So,
of
course,
improves
health.
Those
are
things.
Those
are
basic
components
that
recreational
activity
we
think
of
provide
a
safe
place
for
youth
health,
something
to
do,
but
mostly
in
this
brand,
what
we
were
looking
for
was
components
to
contribute
to
our
economy,
increase
tourism
and
then
protect
the
natural
environment
as
well.
G
So
that
being
said
in
regards
to
the
texas
parks
and
wildlife
grant
and
what
our
requirements
and
what
our
department
was
looking
at
and
how
we
wanted
to
make
this
project
unique,
we
went
ahead
and
took
a
look
at
the.
C
G
Or
requested
in
1999,
and
so
the
city
commissioned
this
second
greek
master
plan
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
most
of
the
issues
from
the
master
plan,
what
they
were
looking
for
is
in
regards
to
the
100
year
floodplain,
as
well
as
recreational
opportunities,
as
well
as
taking
a
look
at
funding
how
to
secure
funding
in
order
to
complete
this
circle,
creek
master
plan,
floodway
improvements,
there's.
G
This
area,
security,
cleanliness
and,
of
course,
transportation
and
connecting
neighborhoods
as
well.
So
this
is
actually
from
the
the
2000
between
1999
2001.
This
master
plan
was
completed
and,
of
course,
we
they
found
many
contaminated
sites
in
this
area
as
well,
and
this
is
one
of
the
main
components.
That's
always
known
about
this
master
planner
with
what
is.
G
There
were
many
identifying.
G
Contaminated
areas
that
were
noted
and
one
of
them
was
over
at
chicon
lake.
This
area
is
over
by
and
I'll
show
you
a
map
as
well,
it's
over
like
clark
and
bob
bullock,
and
it
is
exactly
east
of
the
means.
Rec
center,
so
south
of
clark
in
district
two
right
here
in
the
haines
rec
center
or
the
future
right,
haynes
rec
center,
and
then
here
is
the
triple
lake.
G
This
was
one
of
many
areas
that
was
called
the
brownfield
at
the
time
it
had
a
contamination
of
tires
ivan
was
around
at
that
time.
So
he
can
tell
you
what
what
else
did
you
say?
There
were
other
cars.
It
was.
F
Like
a
lot
of
plastic
plastic
materials
from
or
like
for
carrying
food
items,
stuff
like
that,
I
think
there
was
even
a
big
block
removed
from
the
area
down
the
street.
So
lots
of
lots
of
people
usually
use
these
areas
the
coming
side,
all
right.
So
we
have
something
that
we
wanted
to
attack
and
create
a.
We
will
clean
it
up
and
create
this
recreated
areas
to
avoid
any
more
dumpy
illegal
dumping
at
the
site.
G
Sending
americana
through
a
grant
program
called
the
brownfield
cleanup
grant.
The
epa
awarded
one
of
the
city
selected
was
laredo
in
order
to
clean
this
area
up,
which
is
right.
C
G
An
actual
map
from
that
time
for
the
epa
brownfield
grant,
that
was
in
regards
to
dimensions
all
of
that
latitude,
and
so
in
regards
to
shook
on
lake
this
area
right
here,
the
bronchial
ground
selected,
the
city.
G
Of
hazardous
substances
that
were
found
in
this
area,
this
area
is
about
approximately
give
or
take
18,
and
it
is
in
the
chicon
creek
watershed
and
it
is
at
now.
You
also
know
it
as
east
to
the
chicago
creek
and
bike
trail
as
well
over
by
clark.
G
G
Over
1500
charges
images
from
that
time
that
was
removed
from
this
from
just
this
area,
and
this
isn't
counting
the
other
areas
of
the
shepard
creek,
where
items
are
removed
as
well.
C
G
Look
through
another
program
and
through
another
grant
program
through
the
epa
with
assistance
regarding
for
sustainable
building
practices,
and
this
is
today
you
know
this
is
the
james
and
maria
louisa
hayes
health
and
wellness
center
over
on
club
street,
and
so
this
is
a
state-of-the-art
center
adjacent
to
the
former
after
they
cleaned
out
the
wet
field.
The
wetland
brownfield
area
right
there
check
on
this
area.
This
state
of
the
art
center
was
created
for
sustainable
building
practices.
G
G
And
bike
trail
were
also
being
completed,
and
here
are
some
of
the
diagrams,
as
you
can
see
at
that
time
and
ideas
for
the
conception
of
the
haynes
rec
center
and
as
you
can
see,
this
boardwalk
and
I'll
show.
G
You
in
several
images,
was
always
a
conceptual
plan
or
idea
even
from
back
in
1999,
which
I'll
show
you
in
the
original
master
plan
that
was
done
in
1999
and
in
the
in
mid-2000
in
late
2010's,
when
the
haines
and
rec
center
was
being
designed
and
completed,
that
shecon
creek
boardwalk
was
always
some
kind
of
idea.
Maybe
a
fishy
fear,
maybe
something
that
would
actually
go
out
into
this
wetland
after
it
had
been
cleaned
out.
G
G
G
That
was
added
to
this
area,
and
so
this
parking
right
here
connects
there's
a
trail,
as
you
can
see
right
through
this
little
image
that
actually
connects
to
the
chevron,
creek
hiking
bike
trail,
so
any
kind
of
parking
if
we
ever
wanted
to
do
development
in
this
area
or
any
recreational
city
of
the
radio
kind
of
recreational
opportunity,
parking
is
really
is
not
going
to
be
an
issue
since
it's
over
there
and
it's
a
low
impact
development
parking
as
well
any
questions
so
far
great.
Let's
continue
so
through
several
grant
programs.
G
C
G
Haynes
rack-
and
here
we
go
north
so
right
here
before
we
reach
under
clark,
you
can
see
that
this
windy
boardwalk
was
always
an
idea
in
that
wetland
area
as
well.
It
would
connect
to
the
chagoin
creek
and
bike
trail
over
by
haynes,
and
then
there
would
be
parking
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
trail
is
parking.
This
parking
trail
down
to
the
creek
and
you
could
access
the.
C
G
G
E
G
Another
image
as
well
a
proposed
improvement
to
the
wetland
restoration,
as
you
can
see
here
that
will
this
area
right
here.
As
I
said,
this
is
loop.
20.,
here's
the
shopping
center
at
walmart
target
clark
right
here,
and
then
this
is
the
wetland
we
are
talking
about.
This
is
before
campaign
wreck
was
completed,
but,
as
you
can
see,
the
boardwalk
was
always
an
idea
as
well
a
cute
little
history.
G
C
G
F
G
G
It
connects
to
the
concrete
hiking
bike
trail.
The
red
is
a
proposed
boardwalk
that
would
go
through
the
wetland
that
has
been.
That
was
previously
a
brownfield
and
this
would
add
an
extension.
This
is
700
linear
feet.
Eight
foot
wide
after
the
after
the
bumper
rails
at
the
bottom
of
the
feet
would
be.
G
G
F
C
G
So
this
boardwalk
and
I'll
go
over
right
now
in
regards
to
the
components
of
building
the
boardwalk
but
again
give
or
take.
We
have
about
18
acres
of
wetland
here
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
boardwalk
is
not
extending
out
into
the
wetland,
as
originally
the
kind
of
components
that
we
thought
about
winding
all
around,
and
that
is
because
we
want
to
preserve
that
wetland
area
and
keep
it
safe
and
not
damage
any
of
the
ecosystems
of
flora
and
fauna
as
well.
G
C
G
Especially
during
probing,
so
you
know
environmental
scenery,
a
different
kind
of
view,
the
sounds
of
nature
and
escapism,
and
that
is
something
that
I
really
wanted
to
add
as
a
component,
especially
after
the
coving
issue,
that
we
have
recreational
space
and
not
only
that
an
escape
an
escape
environmental
escape
kind
of
situation
over
at
the
boardwalk.
G
Another
component
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about
very
important
component
to
global
education
levels.
I
wanted
to.
We
wanted
to
provide
an
outdoor,
a
recreational
opportunity,
but
educational
component
and
in
regards
to
environmental
stewardship
of
our
resources
to
understand
water
pollution,
storm
water
pollution,
floodplains,
flood
water,
discarding
just
overall
general
littering,
as
well
as
a
big
issue
here
in
laredo,
and
so
several
ideas,
not
only
on
signage
environmental
information,
information
about
how
the
field
used
to
look.
What
is
a
brown
field?
G
How
does
that
happen
going
into
the
history
and
that's
why
I
brought
the
history
into
here?
Not
only
that
having
a
web
component,
especially
now
with
colbit
all
this,
where
students
can
see
actual
video
from
back,
then
images
take
cards
play
games
in
the
wetlands
room
with
tires.
Those
were
ideas
that
we
were
looking
at
in
regards
to
having
environmental
educational
components
also
for
teachers.
G
Students
make
it
fun
because
a
lot
of
the
students
are
online,
but
then
they
also
have
to
go
to
the
area.
G
Interact
in
regards
to
birds
and
we're
planning
to
come
up
with
more
educational
components
and
games
and
revolve
to
this
kind
of
like
a
pokemon
catch
kind
of
go
where
you're
with
your
phone
or
maybe
some
ideas
in
regards
to
what
kind
of
birds
you
see
or
plants
things
like
that
in
the
wetlands,
so
there's
so
much
potential
and
opportunity
in
the
future
to
make
it
bigger
and
bigger.
This
small
area
of
700
linear
square
feet,
8
foot
wide
boardwalk,
another
major
main
component.
I
keep
talking
about
the
economy.
G
G
During
migration
periods-
yes,
they
said
yes,
if
you,
if
you
clean
out
these
rivers
and
streams-
and
this
is
back
in
1999-
you
have
a
lot
of
potential
in
regards
to
economic
income,
not
only
that
in
regards
to
economic
growth
for
the
area
as
well,
which
is
next
to
a
shopping
center
and
also
to
bring
more
opportunity
and
growth
economically
to
the
chakra
creek,
the
haynes
center.
All
that
area,
that
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
that
we've
spoken
with
are
not
familiar
with
or
don't
know.
G
Not
only
that,
like
I
said,
the
birding
festival,
we
did
get
a
letter
of
support,
of
course,
from
rio
grande
international
rio
grande
and
for
this
as
well
in
regards
to
this
boardwalk
and
so
from
the
burning
festival
that
they
have
annually.
G
G
Concrete
is
the
material
several
locations
have
used
this?
This
is
in
arkansas.
This
is
exactly
the
kind
of
boardwalk.
This
isn't
a
floodplain
wetland.
We
make
sure
to
look
at
boardwalks
and
bring
images
from
the
company
that
we
are
looking
at
and
that
have
the
same
kind
of
situation
as
us
in
regards
to
the
boardwalk.
There
would
be
no
rails
handrails,
except
for
foot
rails.
G
Reason
there
will
be
no
handrails,
of
course,
is
because
it
is
in
a
flood
area,
not
only
that
certain
amount
of
inches
of
lift
in
regards
to
our
city
ordinance
would
have
to
take
it
back
so
floodplain
waters,
if
that
ever
happens
would
go,
would
be
able
to
pass
freely
underneath
as
well
and
another
component
of
this.
This
one
is
in
houston,
as
you
can
see
here,.
G
Forage
of
the
area
that
is
a
very
important
component
to
this
wetland
to
this
sensitive
area
as
well.
No
handrails,
again
the
flood
component
right
there
in
regards
to
something
getting
caught
on
the
handrails.
So
it's
called
tow
curb
warning
bumper,
as
you
saw
here
down
here
at
the
bottom.
G
G
The
boardwalk
was
at
a
few
inches
above
the
ground
in
order
to
let
flood
water
go
through
free,
cast,
concrete
components
that
will
not
leach
any
chemicals.
The
other
great
thing
about
this
boardwalk,
because
our
we
have
already
so
many
pocket
parts
mini
parts.
G
It
does
take
a
lot
to
upkeep
on
these
boardwalks.
The
main
component
is
low
maintenance.
They
have
a
50
to
75
year
lifespan
on
these
boardwalks,
unlike
wood
or
pressed
wood
or
a
mix
of
wood
and
plastic
in
the
material
there's
no
damage
and
in
regards
to
the
weather
flood
area.
G
G
G
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
in
regards
to
the
project
in
regards
to
the
location
or
anything
like
that.
B
B
Flow,
I
know
I
think
I
had
seen
this
project
a
while
back
when
with
the
mr
porter,
but
is
a
well
already
also
in
place.
A
So
yeah
we're
looking
at
a
at
a
low
water
weir
at
numerous
areas
in
chicon,
but
that's
part
of
the
concrete
feasibility
project
that
we
have
with
the
core
of
engineers
yeah.
This
is
a
this
is
separate
but
yeah.
Obviously,
in
the
future
we
are
looking
at
low
water
weirs
to
to
have
water
impoundments.
G
Yes
and
that's
that
one
of
the
features
that
we
really
are
pushing
on
this
one
is
not
only
in
regards
to
the
poverty
levels
in
the
city,
it
was
this,
isn't
just
this
isn't
only
a
recreational
opportunity.
This
is
an
economic
opportunity
for
the
city.
It's
an
opportunity
for
more
green
space.
Different
ideas
in
regards
to
the
city,
the
closest
one
to
the
city
we
found
out
is
in
houston,
and
san
marcos
are
the
two
closest
ones.
So
not
even
san
antonio
has
one
at
this
point
for
a
wetland.
A
Okay,
if
the
committee
doesn't
have
any
questions,
I
guess
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
items
for
the
next
meeting.
Does
anybody
have
any
items
I
I
think
we're?
We
have
a
sufficient
number
of
members
now
that
probably
we
should
have
elections
for
the
next
meeting,
if
everybody's
good
with
that.
A
Okay,
if
you
don't
have
anything
else,
can
I
get
a
somebody
to
make
a
motion
to
adjourn.