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City Council Workshop, 03/09/2022
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Yes,
three
minutes,
please!
Yes,
sir,
my
name
is
charlie
martens
m-a-r-t-e-n-s,
I'm
really
not
really
not
real
sure
exactly
what's
on
the
agenda,
I'm
really
kind
of
here
to
participate
to
listen,
although
I
do
have
a
quite
a
bit
of
experience
on
groundwater
resources
in
the
past,
the
city
of
laredo
actually
did
some
studies
on
this.
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I'm
not
real
sure
where
all
that
information
is,
but
we
we
definitely
got
competitive
bids
at
the
time,
and
at
that
point,
el
pico
was
decided
to
be
the
the
place
for
the
water
processing
plan,
but
other
than
that,
I'm
really
kind
of
here
to
listen
about.
What's
on
your
agenda
with
the
existing
system
you
have
in
place
and
if
I
can
be
of
any
help
I'll
I'll,
try,
I'm
not
real.
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For
the
record,
jose
guadalupe
diaz
de
leon,
the
son
of
luis
diaz,
who
was
here
17
years
ago,
trying
to
solve
the
issues
of
secondary
water
source-
and
you
know
this
type
of
project
that
we
need
desperately
have
we
removed
my
mask?
Yes,
sir,
it's
okay,
yeah
and
I
come
with
a
bear
spirit
again,
so
you
know
I
I
just
came
back
out
of
a
ceremony.
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That's
four
days
in
the
sun,
praying
for
mother
earth
right
and
some
of
the
things
that
I
I
would
like
to
address
here
today
is
that
you
know
I've
been
dealing
with
a
city
council,
a
do-nothing
city
council
for
17
years
now,
and
you
know
we're
still
stuck.
You
know
we,
we
approved
a
secondary
water
source
17
years
ago
and
we're
still
paying
for
it,
and
yet
we
have
no
project
in
line
for
a
secondary
water
source
other
than
maybe
this
project
that
maybe
a
band-aid
on
our
situation.
F
Right
now,
you
know
we
paid
a
half
a
million
dollars
back
then
to
have
the
scientists
tell
us,
you
know
where's
the
best
source
of
water
and
we
just
kind
of
ignored
it.
Did
the
city
council
stick
their
head
in
the
sand?
I
don't
know,
but
here
I
am
17
years
later,
speaking
for
my
father
and
speaking
for
the
people
of
laredo,
that
we
need
a
secondary
water
source.
Why?
Because
the
rio
grande
is
drying
up.
It's
drying
up.
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It's
dry
new
mexico
in
some
parts
already
and
we're
seeing
the
climate
change
hitting
us
very
seriously
here
in
in
our
area,
we're
in
a
drought-stricken
time
right
now,
not
just
here
but
all
across
west
texas,
and
so
what
affects
the
rio
grande,
anything
that
doesn't
come
down
from
el
paso
down.
You
know
we're
we're
we're
stuck
we're
stuck.
F
I
would
like
to
see
a
council
of
action.
This
is
maybe
one
step
toward
something
and
maybe
sit
down
and
negotiate
again
right,
sit
down
and
negotiate
again
because,
17
years
ago
they
had
sat
down
with
the
legal
department
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
best
solutions
and
then
it
got
tabled
17
years
ago,
and
here
we
are
the
citizens
still
paying
for
that
secondary
water
source,
and
we
still
don't
have
that
secondary
water
source
and
are
we
putting
a
band-aid
on
an
er
situation
here?
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You
know,
you
know,
that's
that's
how
I'm
feeling
is
that
we're
trying
to
solve
something.
That
needs
a
very,
very
desperate
step
right
now,
and
I
heard
him
congressman
henry
cuellar
say:
hey,
we've
got
money
for
infrastructure
and
that's
and
mayor
you
were
present
that
day
and
he
said,
let's
get
the
mayor
together
and
let's
try
to
see
if
we
can
solve
this.
Well,
I
don't
know
I
don't
know
how
those
monies
become
available
to
laredo,
but
definitely
that
could
solve
our
problem
here
today.
I
think
I
don't
know.
F
Maybe
we
need
to
get
in
touch
with
congressman
cuellar
and
see
where
the
solutions
are.
The
other
issue
that
was
that
had
been
brought
up
17
years
ago
was
a
factory
to
build
a
pipe
that
would
last
a
hundred
years
right.
I
would
like
to
see
that
legacy
continue.
You
know
is,
is
a
hundred
years.
You
know
I'll
be
a
great
great
grandfather
by
and
not
necessarily
alive,
but
at
least
you
know,
I
try
to
break
make
a
difference
in
our
community,
make
a
difference
for
our
for
our
citizens
of
laredo.
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I
don't
want
later
to
become
a
ghost
town,
because
if
that
river
dries
up,
I
don't
care
how
many
sources
of
water
or
or
watershed
that
you
have.
If
the
river's
dry,
you
can't
suck
water
out
of
it.
You
know
yeah.
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The
reason
we're
here
is
because
we
get
funded
through
the
city
of
laredo
to
to
host
our
annual
latin
american
international
sports
hall
of
fame
induction
ceremonies,
where
we
induct
people
from
out
of
town
from
laredo
from
south
texas,
and
then
we
bring
people
from
from
out
of
town.
Like
last
two
years
ago,
we
brought
in
anthony
munoz,
who
was
the
number
one
pick
of
the
cincinnati
bengals
out
of
the
100
best
national
football
league
players.
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So
we
try
to
bring
people
from
from
out
of
town
and
from
laredo
that
have
excelled
and
have
made
the
texas
state
playoffs
so
that
our
youth
here
can
see
that
if
silent
ghanas
got
to
that
level-
and
we
came
here
to
invite
you
and
the
rest
of
the
city
council
to
please
if
you
want
to
help
us-
attend
our
function,
not
this
saturday
but
the
following
saturday
on
march
18th,
and
to
help
us
give
out
some
of
the
plaques
that
we're
going
to
give
the
honorees
that
are
coming
in,
so
that
you
can
see
what
we
do
and
that
you
know
we
would
appreciate
if
you
could
help
us.
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My
name
is
ed
bueno.
Well,
we
just
like
to
extend
a
most
cultural
invitation
to
each
and
every
one
of
you
to
be
with
us
on
saturday
evening
march
19th
at
the
country
club
7,
00
p.m.
That's
when
we'll
have
we'll
break
food
together
and
once
again
this
is
a
very
joyous
occasion.
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We
recognize
professional
people
that
have
excelled
here
in
the
area
of
sports
and
for
that
we're
indeed,
very
very
grateful
would
like
to
point
that
out
to
each
and
every
one
of
you
please
do
not
forget,
join
us,
a
quarterly
invitation
to
you
and
your
family
to
be
with
us
that
evening.
This
is
a
family
event.
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I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
go
over
what
they've
already
said.
They
stole
my
lines,
but
yes
we're
here
to
invite
all
of
you
all
on
the
city
council.
To
our
event,
I
know
the
mayor
has
attended
it's
a
wonderful
event
and
we
have
a
table
for
you
all.
I
will
be
calling
your
secretaries
to
see
if
you
will
be
attending
and
we
hope
that
you
will,
and
we
really
would
what
we
like
to
do
with
the
city.
J
I
believe
that
they
went
to
the
state
playoffs
as
well.
Most
of
you
know
sammy
moreno
and
manuel
blinker
perez
they
were
the
coaches
and
we're
bringing
in
also
a
state
finalist
basketball
team
from
roma.
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Three:
two
years
ago,
the
our
sportsman
of
the
year
was
blackstone
dilworth,
who
helped
the
city
expand
the
the
right
of
way
for
the
for
luke
20.,
and
this
year,
we'll
have
the
the
la
mantilla
family,
the
whole
family
that
we're
going
to
recognize
on
saturday
on
the
18th
of
saturday.
Thank
you,
wonderful.
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K
Good
afternoon
council,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity,
I'm
kind
of
in
the
same
boat
as
mr
martin's,
and
just
kind
of
waiting
to
see
what
happens,
but
I
do
have
some
concerns
as
I've
been
getting
ready
for
this
meeting
from
what
I
understand.
K
There's
going
to
be
some
financing
options
right
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
today
and
one
of
the
things
that
jumped
out
at
me
when
I
was
getting
ready
for
this
meeting
in
2013,
the
city's
net
worth
was
855
million
dollars,
and
I
know
rosado
can't
can't
answer
these
questions
right
now,
but
just
to
get
prepared
for
the
item
just
come
up.
So
it's
worth
855
million
dollars
the
the
outstanding
debt
was
776
million
dollars
and
the
city's
valuation
was
1.8
billion
dollars.
K
The
last
report
that
I
can
find,
which
is
at
the
end
of
fiscal
year
2020
the
city's
outstanding
debt,
is
1.3
billion
dollars
almost
twice
as
much
cities.
Net
worth
is
down
from
855
million
dollars
to
700
million
dollars,
a
decrease
of
155
million
dollars,
despite
the
city's
valuation,
going
up
to
2.4
billion
dollars.
So
these
are
all
indicators
that
there's
been
money
spent.
Obviously,
and
the
biggest
concern
is
where
has
that
money
been
have
been
going?
Obviously,
there
hasn't
been
any
huge
projects.
K
We've
had
water
issues
and
it's
a
it's
something
that
really
jumps
out
when
you're
talking
about
from
the
numbers,
I've
heard
half
a
billion
dollars
to
invest
back
into
our
utility
system,
which
we
obviously
need.
There
is
absolutely
no
anybody
discussing
or
fighting
the
fact
that
we
need
to
continue
to
invest
in
our
utility
system.
The
question
is:
why
has
it?
Why
has
that
not
continued
throughout
this
administration?
I
think
that's
really
where,
where
we're
at
right
now,
what
I'd
really
like
to
see?
K
First,
is
an
investigation
as
to
what
actually
happened
was
it
actually
a
water
line,
failure
which
it
could
have
been
or
was
it?
Human
failure
was
the
combination
before
we
start
spending
more
taxpayer
money
and
talking
about
any
water
water
rate
increase.
I
think
that's
really
the
prudent
thing
to
do
to
make
sure
that
we're
investing
money
but
we're
investing
it
where
it
needs
to
be
and
not
doing
it
in
a
knee-jerk
fashion
and
in
a
methodical
matter
like
it
should
have
been
the
whole
time.
K
There's
always
maintenance
in
anything
that
you
own,
whether
it's
a
house
or
it's
a
city,
and
that
maintenance
is
not
what
has
been
happening
for
whatever
reason
and
there's
also,
I
believe,
some
some
human
failure
which
which
happens
because
there's
there
has
been
a
huge
exodus
of
people
in
every
department,
not
just
the
utilities
and-
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
that
obviously
nobody
did
this
on
purpose,
but
it
did
happen.
Why
did
it
happen?
K
And
let's
make
sure
we
re-remedy
that
before
we
jump
into
making
more
fiscal
decisions
like
half
a
billion
dollars,
which
would
you
know,
put
us
almost
close
to
what
our
by
statute
by
charter,
what
we're
allowed
to
to
invest?
I
believe
we're
only
allowed
to
invest
10
percent
of
the
city's
total
valuation
which
we
might
be
over
already,
and
I
don't
know
that'll
be
a
question
that
president
can
answer
here.
Thank
you.
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Good
afternoon
council,
my
name
is
victor
gomez,
and
I
come
before
you
to
consider
the
before
considering
water
rate
increases
one
more
time
consider
the
following.
We
already
have
a
scheduled
yearly
water
rate
increase
that
started
in
2019
that
most
of
all,
four
of
you,
five
of
you
passed,
increases
that
started
in
2019
and
yet
again
increased
2020,
2021,
2022
and
2023.
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L
How
will
it
be
spent
in
the
future?
Who
who
should
be
accountable
for
where
this
money
is
going?
Does
mrs
cabello
have
a
spreadsheet
or
a
way
to
explain
to
us
how
those
water
rate
increases
were
disbursed?
L
L
He
was
given
an
increase
and
a
promotion
he's
not
earning
88
dollars
an
hour
when
he
should
have
been
dismissed
aside,
as
I
said
back
in
2019
when
you
had
the
water
ball
notices
and
he
went
before
the
morning
times,.
L
Well,
just
20
a
front
page
news:
may
20
may
october
15
2019
front
page.
Mr
riazool
stated.
A
L
Was
on
the
record
that
it
was
better
for
the
city
to
be
fined
than
for
the
public
to
be
given
scary,
water
boiled
notices?
That's
that
was
the
front
page
newspaper
back
in
2019
october
15th.
Thank
you.
A
Very
much
thank
you
for
your
comment,
sir.
I
believe
those
are
the
comments
that
we
have
that.
B
M
And
get
on
communication
administrator
for
the
record
mayor
city
council.
I
have
two
written
comments.
One
is
from
mary
lou
garza.
The
city
needs
to
be
proactive
in
the
maintenance
of
our
water
situation.
The
city
needs
to
rescind
the
budget
for
takeoff
food
for
council.
Some
of
our
constituents
cannot
afford
a
restaurant
meal
must,
let's
take
dinners,
so
all
properties
that
the
city
holds.
These
properties
are
not
bringing
in
any
tax
revenue.
M
Rescind
this
hilarious
retirement
package
that
council
voted
on
part-timers
are
not
eligible
for
retirement
incentives
and
free
salary
increases
stop
discretionary
funds.
This
council
and
mayor
have
been
disgraced
with
their
finger,
pointing
man
up
step
before
get
up.
The
next
one
is
from
anna
menchaca.
M
Water
is
a
basic
human
right,
early
civilization,
since
the
recorded
existence
of
man
has
centered
around
a
reliable
water
source,
mayor
city,
council,
members
and
city
management,
we
need
reliable
sanitary
water.
This
has
been
an
ongoing
issue
now
for
several
years.
Perhaps
the
city
of
florida
should
put
all
their
pet
projects
on
the
back
burner
and
fix
our
water
issues
first
and
foremost
once
and
for
all.
M
Let's
stop
spending
millions
upon
millions
of
dollars
on
sports
complexes,
murals
statues
and
to
restore
our
old
buildings,
stop
and
fix
the
water
issues,
give
the
citizens
basic
services
before
all
the
unnecessary,
wasteful
window
dressing.
The
mentality
is
like
we
have
a
home
with
a
hole
in
the
roof.
That's
leaking
water
profusely,
but
instead
of
fixing
fixing
it
we're
going
to
put
an
ordnance
water
fountain
on
the
front
lawn
then
to
further
compound
our
present
state
of
affairs
chosen
city
council
members
continue
to
vote
on
development
projects.
M
N
My
name
is
fernando
valdasso,
I'm
representing
myself
just
as
a
red
one.
My
comment
is
the
following:
I
think
the
main
objective
of
city
council
and
the
mayor
is
to
make
the
life
of
the
red
ones
better
and
to
spend
our
taxes
wisely.
N
N
N
To
do
the
job
of
the
engineer
we
fired,
we
wasted
more
money,
defending
ourselves
from
the
lawsuit
that
we
eventually
lost.
The
serial
radar
fired
the
wrong
guy,
as
the
49
district
court
documents
show.
There
are
so
many
questions
to
be
answered
before
you
go
out
to
borrow
any
money
mayor.
Why
are
we
closing
at
36
36
inch
main
when
we
broke
a
pipe
that
was
12
inch
on
frosted
monterey?
N
Have
you
asked
the
engineers
that
we
have
12
inch
valves?
Then
we
have
20
inch
valves.
Then
we
have
the
huge
one,
which
is
the
36
inch
valve
quite
close
at
36
inch
main
water
line
when
you
could
have
closed
the
12
inch
or
the
24
inch.
The
answer
is
simple:
you
have
unqualified
people
that
were
appointed
by
high
roll
as
a
favor
doing
the
job.
N
Before
we
spend
any
taxpayers
dollars.
We
need
to
find
out
who
put
an
unqualified
employee
in
the
position
of
an
engineer
before
you
go
out
asking
for
loans.
You
need
to
find
out
who
told
the
city
employee
to
do
400
turns
on
the
36
inch
valve
until
he
cut
the
huge
valve
in
half
before
you
tell
the
citizens
of
laredo
that
you're
going
to
put
us
in
debt
with
over
500
million
dollars.
N
N
What
is
not
that's
not
the
reason
we
were
left
without
water
for
such
a
long
time.
The
solution
might
be
firing.
The
two
or
three
main
culprits
that
created
these
scales
and
mess
instead
of
putting
us
in
debt
with
half
a
billion
mayor
and
city
council.
Please
remember
that
laredo
is
the
poorest
city
in
the
nation,
with
the
highest
property
tax
in
the
state.
A
Thank
you
much.
Thank
you
for
your
comments,
sir.
Anyone
else.
It's
a
workshop
and
a
public
forum
here.
No
one
else!
Thank
you.
Yes,
mr
help.
E
Claire,
are
we
ready
to
begin
staff
reports?
Yes,
sir?
Okay,
the
the
workshop,
I'm
targeting
an
hour
to
an
hour
and
a
half
for
this
workshop.
You
have
the
presentations
in
front
of
you.
E
What
we're
going
to
do
is
through
go
through
a
process
and
we
anticipate
needing
future
workshops
rather
than
that,
rather
than
trying
to
deal
with
all
the
financials
in
a
single
workshop.
What
we
want
to
do
is
to
bring
the
council
and
the
public
up
to
speed
in
terms
of
what
a
water
system
is
kind
of
how
it
operates,
how
it
looks,
and
then
there
will
be
a
clearer
understanding
of
what's
in
front
of
us
in
terms
of
cattle
capital
projects
at
the
end
of
the
workshop
here.
E
So
that's
what
we're
going
to
do
we're
going
to
I'm
going
to
present
kind
of
a
3,
30,
30,
000
elevation
view
of
water
systems.
E
What
water
systems
look
like
and
there's
going
to
be
some
some
key
words
in
that
that
we'll
keep
in
mind
as
we
go
through
the
rest
of
the
presentation,
then
we're
going
to
have
a
presentation
on
the
36
inch
water
line
break
a
day
by
day
synopsis
of
what
happened
when
where
and
how
on
that
36
inch
line,
and
then
we're
gonna
and
we'll
be
handing
off
here,
and
it
is
a
workshop.
So
some
I've
directed
the
folks
behind
me
to
to
poke
me
in
the
ribs.
E
If
I
omit
something
to
poke
me
in
the
ribs,
if
I
mistake
something
and
and
I'll
be
doing
the
same
to
them,
some
some
things
that
we
believe
needs
to
be
shared
needs
to
be
said.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
said
that
needs
to
be
said
in
this
workshop
and
the
idea
being
that,
if
the
future
workshops
will
then
cover
the
master
plan,
bonding
financing,
we'll
discuss
water
rates,
we'll
talk
about
our
secondary
water
sources
and
we'll
talk
about
development
and
growth
and
how
it
impacts
the
system.
E
A
As
far
as
future
workshops
are
you
anticipating
something
within
within
two
weeks
because
of
you
know
time
obviously,.
E
We're
looking
at
having
turn
around
on
these
workshops.
That's
exactly
right.
Okay,
the
workshop
today,
a
couple
of
weeks,
the
next
workshop.
If
it
takes
three
workshops,
it
takes
three
workshops,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
has
a
clear
understanding
of
the
issues
the
needs
and
how
they're
going
to
be
funded.
O
American,
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
quick
comment
on
future
workshops.
Could
we
schedule
these
at
five
or
five
thirty,
so
that
we
could
give
the
public
the
ability
to
be
present?
We
are
discussing
possible
debt,
we're
discussing
how
we're
going
to
pay
for
that
for
that
credit
card
debt
with
their
tax
dollars,
and
I
think
it's
important.
We
have
these
meetings
not
at
noon,
but
rather
in
the
evening
to
encourage
more
citizen
participation,
whether
it's
them
watching
the
meeting
at
home
or
actually
coming
in
person.
E
E
That's
for
you
to
make
notes
on
put
your
questions
on
those
questions
may
not
be
able
to
get
fielded
today,
but
we'll
be
fielding
them
in
a
future
workshop.
So
if
we
can't
field
a
question
today
or
or
we
don't
have
the
answer
for
you,
we
would
at
the
next
workshop.
So
this
is
what
it
looks
like
and
and
if
you
think
of
your
your
system
like
a
tree
so
you've
got
the
the
tree,
would
represent
your
storage
storage.
E
A
Yeah,
just
you
know,
since
we
have
a
little
time,
we
can
recap
for
dr
martinez,
mr
salmon
said
that
we
would
have
a
series
of
these
workshops,
and
you
know
this
there's
so
much
information
that
we
need
to
have.
P
I
know
that
this
is
a
series
of
meetings
that
we're
going
to
have
that
we're
going
to
start
figuring
out
the
system,
as
is
our
responsibility
now.
This
should
have
been
done
years
ago,
but
we're
going
to
do
it
now,
but
the
problem
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
are
angry,
upset,
disappointed
that
feel
frustrated
and
they
want
to
voice
their
frustrations.
They
want
to
voice
their
opinions
and
they
want
to
be
present
for
this
meeting.
P
The
fact
that
we
can't
give
them
an
opportunity
at
this
particular
meeting
the
first
meeting
right
after
we
had
a
water
bottle
notice,
and
we
had
a
an
emergency
that
happened
that
basically
decapitated
our
our
water
system
is,
is
beyond
preposterous
and
I'm
I'm
ashamed
and
I'm
disappointed.
I'm
sorry,
I
apologize
to
the
people
of
laredo
those
that
are
working
people
that
can't
be
here
today.
P
P
People
are
upset
and
they
have
a
right
to
be
upset
at
us
and
now
with
this.
What
are
we
hiding?
Why
are
we
doing
this
at
noon?
Why
aren't
we
allowing
the
whole
city
to
participate?
What
what
are?
What
are
we
getting?
Why
are
we
not
doing
this
at
five
o'clock
when
everybody
has
an
opportunity
to
opine?
P
E
E
You
know
we
we
can
do
any
number
of
things
here.
It's
up
to
the
will
of
the
council.
We
could
recess
and
reconvene
late
this
afternoon.
That's
something
that
can
be
done
so
if,
if
the
council
would
desire
to
do
something
like
that
or
to
move
forward
or
we
could
have
the
presentation
today,
then
we
can
do
it
again
this
evening.
If,
if
we
could,
we
could
do
it
any
number
of
ways.
P
P
They
all
have
a
right
to
listen
and-
and-
and
so
I
do
urge
this
council
to
wait
until
the
people
can
participate
at
5
30
in
the
afternoon,
like
we
normally
do
on
any
city
council
meeting,
not
at
noon
when
you
have
75
80
percent
of
our
population,
currently
at
work
trying
to
pay
their
bills.
I
think
it's
a
travesty
yeah,
okay,.
A
Yeah,
your
point
is
well
made,
so
it's
it's
pretty
up
to
this
council
to
proceed
or
or
have
a
motion
or
whatever,
but
I
would
say.
Q
A
E
E
Then
then,
we'll
talk
about
the
events
that
transpired
in
in
the
week
that
that
36
inch
transmission
line
failed
and
then
we'll
talk
about
the
our
integrated
master
plan
and
really
be
talking
about
I'm
not
getting
real
specific
into
projects,
but
more
talking
about
how
we
got
there
with
those
projects
and
then
the
the
action
that
we
would
be
looking
for
after
this
discussion
is
to
give
get
staff
the
directive
to
move
forward
on
that
36
inch
line
and
design
of
that
we
just
as
a
quick
note.
E
E
So
this
is
this
is
what
a
water
system
looks
like.
It's
got.
The
three
prongs
you've
got:
production,
transmission
and
distribution.
The
distribution
line
is
the
one
that's
in
front
of
your
house
that
you
get
direct
water
off
of
the
and,
what's
part
of
that
distribution
is
that
above
ground
storage,
above
ground
storage
facility,
or
just
as
you
see
here
in
this
graphic,
it
could
be
booster
stations.
You
could
be
going
to
a
booster
station
from
a
transmission
line
into
a
distribution
and
and
boost
that
water.
E
We
operate
under
variable
pressures,
so
sometimes
we're
filling
those
tanks
with
a
higher
pressure
and
sometimes
we're
filling
them
with
a
lower
pressure,
we're
pushing
less
water
into
them.
We
kind
of
went
to
school
on
that
with
our
scada
system.
We
were
physically
everything
that
we
did
during
that
every
news
conference.
E
A
Okay,
so
we
do
have
audio
problems,
well,
it
kind
of
defeats.
The
purpose
of
you
know.
T
Can
resolve
this
within
the
next
five
minutes
and
we'll.
A
A
Thank
you
all
for
your
patience
we
yeah
earlier.
We
went
to
we
recessed
for
lunch
and
then
also
to
give
management
some
time
to
to
fix
the
audio
problem
that
we
had
it's
my
understanding
that
the
audio
system
now
works
so
we're
back
in
open
session.
So
please
go
ahead.
Mr.
E
But
it
is
important
to
note
that
whenever
you
use
a
transmission
line
for
distribution
or
the
inverse,
you
use
a
distribution
line
for
transmission,
you've
compromised
your
system
and-
and
I
think
we've
got
a
couple
of
instances.
We
won't
talk
about
them
here
today,
but
we've
got
a
couple
of
incidents
where
we've
we
have
had
to
use
transmission
as
distribution
and
distribution
as
transmission,
and
that's
there's
fluctuating
pressures
in
that
transmission
line.
E
So
going
to
that
again,
our
three
points-
water
production,
transmission
system
and
distribution
system,
which
is
your
water
lines
and
our
water
source-
is
the
rio
grande
and
and
we've
talked
about
alternative
water
sources.
We
again,
we
think
that's
for
the
next
workshop
talk
about
those
alternative
sources,
increasing
our
water
portfolio.
E
E
E
This
is
a
snapshot
of
your
water
system.
It
was
came
into
effect
in
1882.
The
salt
water
source
is
the
rio
grande.
You
have
two
water
treatment
plants,
eight
booster
stations
and
nine
elevated
storage
space,
and
you
have
more
than
a
thousand
miles
of
transmission
mains
more
more-
and
this
is
an
important
note.
More
than
thirty
percent
of
that
system
is
50
years
old
or
older.
E
E
E
So
you
can
see
as
they're
they're
spiders
and
you
got
the
zoom
in
on
from
the
water
treatment
plant
to
the
lion
storage
tank.
E
I
want
to
talk
about
the
water
system
for
half
a
minute
and-
and
let
me
get
you
up
to
speed
on
mgd,
not
everybody
knows
what
that
acronym
is
it's
million
gallons
per
day,
that's
million
gallons
per
day,
so
in
2020
you
can
see
that
we're
producing
about
40
million
gallons
per
day
at
our
combined
water
treatment
plants,
and
we
have
a
good
capacity
in
terms
of
the
water
that's
available
for
these
purposes,
for
the
purposes
that
we're
current.
This
is
based
on
our
current
consumption
and
our
current
growth
rates,
we're
in
good
shape.
E
E
S
S
S
We
attempted
to
isolate
that
leak
on
the
36
inch
transmission
line
when
we
isolate
that
we
have
to
shut
off
certain
valves
in
the
system
so
that
we
are
able
to
go
access
and
try
to
repair
that
line.
Sometimes
some
of
these
valves
will
not
completely
close
or
sometimes
they'll
they've
got
stuck.
The
the
valves
will
not
function
properly.
S
One
of
those
valves.
We
have
to
remove
the
mechanism,
the
gearbox
that
activates
it
to
get
it
repaired
to
adjust
it
because
as
they
opened
it
up,
they
found
out
that
the
mechanism
was
not
lining
up,
so
it
just
fell
out.
It
could
have
been
done
by
pressure
or
age
different
things
that
can
cause
it
that
was
done
early
in
the
morning
once
they
were
able
to
get
that
gearbox
back
on.
S
They
were
able
to
shut
that
valve,
but
it
did
not
completely
seal,
but
it
gave
them
enough
opportunity
to
where
they
can
open
up
other
hydrants
in
the
system
to
drain
it
to
allow
us
to
work
on
the
pipe.
After
that
time,
crews
went
in
there
excavated
the
area
and
they
worked
through
the
night
excavated.
It
identified
the
water
leaking
in
the
system
when
they
found
out
what
they
had
as
they
were
digging
they're
putting
in
the
first
clamp
we
had
these
clamps
in
stock
in
our
warehouse.
P
S
E
P
All
right,
thank
you
for
correcting
and
set,
and
second
just
quickly,
and
because
we
did
hear
a
public
comment
regarding
this.
Mr
summon
did
we
check
how
often
these
valves
are
currently
being
inspected,
because
apparently
there
was
a
problem
with
the
valve,
which
is
what
one
somebody
told
us
in
public
comic
last
time,
but
one
of
the
instructions
that
we
gave
was
to
see
if
we
were
checking
or
not
checking
these
valves.
S
E
Mayor
we'll
we'll
get
that
information
from
the
next
workshop.
Okay,.
G
A
P
P
I
I
want
to
keep
going,
but
I
will
defer
for
now,
but
but
I
do
have
a
point
that
I'm
trying
to
make
here.
Okay,
so.
O
Dr
martinez's
question
was
how
long,
how
often
should
these
pipes
be
checked
and
I
think
a
question
of
we'll
get
back
with
you
to
the
next
workshop
personally
isn't
acceptable.
I
think
that's
something
that
you
as
a
department
director
should
be
able
to
answer.
How,
often,
should
they
be
checked?
You
should
check
the
valves
at
least
once
a
year
there's
our
answer,
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
staff
can
answer
questions
to
us
the
way
he
did
right
now
and
not
defer
anything
to
the
next
workshop.
It's
important.
We
get
these
questions
answered.
P
S
P
S
P
P
When
that
happens,
so
I
just
I
just
you
know,
do
you
have
a
log?
We.
S
A
System
yeah,
let
me
ask
you
this:
did
you
hold
that,
though,
to
mr
selman,
I
would
think
that
you
you're
conducting
an
investigation
and-
and
if
not
obviously
you
know,
council
is
conducting
this
investigation,
which
I
think
is
proper,
but
are
you
simultaneously,
you
know
conducting
something
to
to
to
see
exactly
what
happened
and
what
what
failures
and
obviously
there
was
a
failure
there
that
occurred.
You
know
you
know
other
than
the
breakage,
especially
now
saying
that
the
valve
didn't
work.
A
So
are
you
you
know
on
that
or
or
or
plan
to
get
on
it
or
what's
what's
your
being
the
city
manager
that
that
is
my.
E
Q
Is
our
internal
auditor
here
so
she
could
go
ahead
and
come
in
and
write
down
all
these
questions
that
we
have
so
for
our
next
presentation
that
we
find
out,
they're
actually
addressed
and
no
question
guest
gets
lose
or
gets
forgotten
or
goes
unanswered.
So
ken.
E
She's,
our
internal
auditor
is
virtual.
Q
G
Q
P
P
When
truthfully
something
that
happened
here
was
a
procedural
problem.
This
was
a
what
I'm
understanding
is
that
this
was
a
manpower
issue,
either
lack
of
training
or
improper
maintenance
of
valves
or
something
along.
Those
lines
resulted
in
this.
So
before
we
go
out
and
in
debt,
the
city
to
another
500
million
or
400
million
or
600
million
dollars
in
debt.
P
I
think
we
ought
to
be
looking
also
to
make
sure
that
the
way
we're
currently
working
our
system
and
that
the
people
that
we
have
working
for
it,
which
I
know
they
work
tirelessly-
are
getting
the
proper
training
that
they
need
to
make
sure
this
doesn't
happen
because
it's
very
easy
to
throw
money
at
a
problem.
But
if
it's
not
the
root
cause
of
the
problem,
then
we
have
to
be
careful
about
just
throwing
money
at
it,
but.
A
Then,
with
that
point
doctor,
I
do
want
to
make
a
comment.
That's
very
really
well
related
to
this
sometime
back
before
your
time,
mr
sulliman,
this
council
retained
the
some
consultants
regarding
a
prior
boiled
water
notice
that
created
also
a
lot
of
concern
for
the
community,
and
we
had
asked
that
that
this
consulting
firm,
you
know,
assist
us
not
only
with
the
water
quality,
but
I
think
basically
you
know
to
review
the
entire
scope
of
production
and
transmission
and
distribution.
A
If
I'm
mistaken,
please
correct
me,
but
I
thought
we
had
these
overseers
now
kind
of
looking
at
that
and
and
kind
of
looking
at
our
procedures
and
see
if
we
we
have
the
proper
procedures
or
had
the
ever
had
proper
procedures
in
place.
So
please
look
into
it
and
see
because
you
know
my
my
understanding
was
that
you
know
this
is
why
we
hired
them
and
if
we
had
to
expand
their
scope,
you
know.
A
Maybe
this
council
should
consider
that
you
know
soon,
but
I
thought
that
they
were
already
engaged
for
that.
You
know
to
review.
P
That,
currently
right
now,
I'm
not
getting
the
answers
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
hear
I'm
hearing
that
there
were
logs
through
work
orders,
but
that
we
don't
have
a
complete
listing
of
those
logs,
or
at
least
you.
I
can't
see
that
these
valves
were
exercised
again.
Had
this
valve
been
working,
would
this
problem
have
occurred.
A
S
As
we
continued,
the
crews
continued
to
excavate
explore,
we
identified
a
league
that
they
placed
the
clamp
as
they
placed
the
clamp.
Another
leak
appeared
on
the
line
and
when
they
put
on
that,
second
clamp
that
pressure
being
that
water
was
coming
out
of
those
two
different
leaks
opened
up
another
leak,
so
we
had
to
put
in
a
third
clamp.
S
S
S
At
that
time,
we
decided
we
needed
to
go
in
there
and
cut
that
pipe,
a
60
foot
section
before
we
removed
you
can
see
this
picture
here.
On
the
left
hand
left
hand
side
the
pitting
that
had
occurred
underneath
it,
we
identified
that
this
section
of
pipe
50
years
ago
was
not
wrapped
in
polyethylene
plastic.
S
That
plastic
is
what
keeps
it
from
corroding
it
assists.
It
protects
it.
Other
sections
further
to
the
west
were
covered
in
that
plastic,
so
this
problem
started
50
years
ago
over
time
that
pitting
the
corrosion
brought
it
to
this
point,
because
this
these
pitting
are
throughout
the
bottom
of
that
pipe.
S
So
as
we
moved
along
and
tried
this
other
sections
that
were
weak
started
to
break.
So
what
we
did
is
we
just
said:
let's
get
the
contractor
come
in
here.
Let's
cut
that
section.
Also,
at
the
same
time,
I
had
another
specialty
contractor
come
in
and
construct
a
bypass
in
case.
We
need
to
bypass
the
system,
so
we
could
feed
the
line
tank.
S
S
I
did
that
that
night
on
the
18th,
I
called
the
state
and
notified
him
that
we
had
issued
a
bold
water
notice
because
of
low
pressure,
but
this
is
what
we
had
in
the
ground.
This
is
what
came
out
of
the
ground.
We
replaced
it
repaired.
It
charged
up
the
line,
it's
a
slow
process,
because
there's
air
that
accumulates
in
those
pipes.
We
have
to
bleed
that
air
out
in
the
system
crews
are
working.
At
night
I
had
my
inspectors.
S
We
also
had
teex
help
us
with
some
of
their
public
works.
People
come
in
cities
offered
assistance,
we
got
assistance
where
we
could
and
as
flushing
the
system
we
were
also
able
to
maintain
with
the
conservation
people
were
doing,
were
able
to
push
the
water
further
out
into
the
system.
We
weren't
able
to
build
up
our
storage.
Yet
once
we
got
the
line
working,
we
were
able
to
evacuate
all
that
air
bleed
out
that
air
out
of
the
line.
S
S
When
people
use
our
water
more
in
the
in
the
afternoons
and
the
evenings,
then
we
were
able
to
regain-
and
my
concerns
were
what,
if
there's
more
damage
to
this
line
like
this,
what
if
it
occurs
somewhere
else
that
we
ordered
more
pipe
material
to
have
it
available,
because
we
had
one
clamp
that
came
in
from
arkansas.
We
had
it
hot
shotted
over
here,
so
we
could
have
it
available
to
make
that
repair.
It
wasn't
successful,
but
we
had.
We
were
trying
to
locate
sections
of
pipe.
S
S
S
So
we
have
to
bleed
out
that
air.
We
have
to
be
careful.
We
get
those
calls
we
go
out
to
those
neighborhoods.
We
bleed
the
air
out
in
those
fire
hydrants
it's
a
slow
process,
but
once
we
build
it
up,
we're
able
to
charge
it
up,
elevate
increase
the
volume
in
our
storage
tanks.
Then
we
can
get
the
system
running
and
balance
it.
Sometimes
we
have
to
isolate
different
sections.
Another
section
that
we
had
done.
There
was
a
pipe
leak
that
was
already
had
occurred
at
lake
casablanca.
That
goes
underneath
the
berm
underneath
loop
20.
S
that
was
programmed
to
be
repaired,
but
we
hadn't
had
a
chance
to
finish
that
repair.
We
had
a
contractor
come
in
and
help
us
to
replace
that,
because
that
would
help
the
359
area.
We
got
that
working
running,
so
we
could
assist
that
359
area.
So
it's
the
12
inch
is
another
line,
part
of
the
system,
that
kind
of
aided
to
bring
flow
into
359
area.
A
Okay,
let
me
pause
you
there
do.
We
have
any
questions
or
thoughts
on
the
36
inch
line
and
the
pitting-
and
I
do
have
a
question
here
on
on
the
36
inch
line-
was
that
a
a
standard
at
the
time
to
for
those
for
that
36
inch
line
to
be
wrapped
in
this
polyethylene
material
or
or
was
it
optional
or
do
you
know
it
back
then
now
well.
S
A
P
So
do
you
just
to
to
follow
up
on
your
comment
right
now?
Do
you
know
how
many
linear
feet
of
the
this
36
inch
line
or
any
36
inch
line
was
not
wrapped
that
will
likely
fail.
S
U
P
P
P
P
P
S
P
Saying
that
there
was
multiple
valves
throughout
the
system
that
broke
and
that
our
our
people
and
our
engineers
and
then
our
people
on
the
ground
could
not
close
these
valves
in
a
appropriate
either
manner
or
in
sequentially
to
be
able
to
isolate
the
system.
I'm
just
trying
to
find
this
out,
because
this
is
why
two
thirds
or
sixty
percent
of
the
city
didn't
have
water
because
of
one
line,
and
we
our
system
is
designed
to
prevent
this,
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
find
out.
Why
did
this
particular
line?
A
I
add
another
point
to
that
to
your
point
doctor.
I
think
that,
and
correctly
to
we
don't
have
redundancy
correct.
For
example,
you
know.
Obviously
this
line,
you
know,
wasn't
functioning
it
broke
and
we
had
to
isolate
that
section,
but
we
had,
we
didn't,
have
another
bypass
line
feeding
into
the
tank.
So
that's
really.
Your
question
is
that
normally
part
of
the
water
system
designed
to
have
at
least
some
other
bypass
that
lines
to
we.
S
Try
to
have
bypasses
available
to
where
we
can
reroute
water.
The
system
there
was
a
30.
There
is
a
30
inch
line
that
would
have
helped
when
we
were
operating,
that
section
it
operated
and
everything,
but
we
could
not
verify
whether
the
valve
was
moving
or
not
the
the
mechanism
inside
because
it
would
operate,
but
we
we
couldn't
tell
we
have
to
get
a
flow
meter
to
identify
and
see
if
there's
flow
moving
through
the
system.
So
the
question
is.
P
P
A
E
E
P
S
Well,
that
was
the
30
inch
that
I'm
referring
to
that
crews
were
operating
thinking
that
it
was
opening,
but
it
turns
out
it's
in
the
closed
position.
The
valve
mechanism
was
not
working
okay,
so
it
turns
like
it's
operating,
so
they
were
not
able
to
verify
whether
water
is
moving
in
or
out.
How
can
you
not
verify?
Q
We're
talking
about
valves
since
this
incident
has
happened,
is
our
maintenance
and
repair
up
up
to
date
and
what's
going
on
with
the
vows
or
do
we
still
have
the
unenforceable
mishaps,
with
the
current
valves
that
are
going
on
or
where
are
we
at
with
that?
Basically,.
S
We
continue
to.
We
have
two
valve
maintenance
crews
in
the
last
three
years,
they've
done
about
408,
valve
repairs
and
replacements,.
S
A
A
S
S
R
S
S
Pig
that
runs
it's
got
it's
like
a
little
robot
that
they
run
there's
different
types
that
they
run.
They
take
information
like
sonar
and
they
tell
you
the
profile
of
the
pipe,
the
condition
of
the
pipe
and
that
I'm
getting
a
proposal
for
that
for
doing
an
assessment
on
our
major
lines,
main
transmission
lines,
I'm
also
looking
for
a
service
that
will
identify
and
maintain
all
our
valves
that
are
that
will
be
done
on
an
annual
basis,
so
that
and
that's
available
through
a
by
board
type
contract.
S
R
S
S
So
that's
just
initial
numbers.
Once
I
get
more
information,
we
can
look
at
different
techniques,
whether
we
do
in
situ
form
complete
line,
replacing
slip,
lining,
there's
different
techniques
available
in
the
market
that
we
can
use
or
just
build
another
parallel
line
that
can
can
assist
there.
The
the
other
option
that
I'm
looking
at
is
having
a
direct
feed
to
the
bartlett
tank
to
have
another
source
available
to
the
tank
system.
S
S
So
that's
the
plan
of
action
that
I'm
considering
as
far
as
an
emergency,
we've
ordered
enough
36
inch
pipe
in
case
there's
another
section
that
fails
because
right
now
the
plant
is
running
at
the
high
surface
pumps.
I
got
them
running
at
60
pounds
60
psi,
because
I
don't
want
to
put
too
much
pressure
on
the
system
because
I
don't
want
to
have
to
blow
out
any
valves
any
other
pipes,
because
it's
sensitive,
I
even
when
we
were
doing
the
excavation.
S
I
was
worried
that
disturbing
that
pipe
might
have
caused
more
failures
and
then
doing
the
the
the
inspection
of
the
system,
the
assessment
of
the
pipe.
When
you
do
that
construction,
you
have
to
have
a
launch
and
a
receive
on
the
on
the
pipe.
When
you're
doing
that
construction,
you
can
disturb
the
pipe
and
cause
another
failure.
S
So
I'm
go.
I'm
going
around
checking
where
other
systems
that
I
can
bypass
and
in
fact,
where
right
now,
I'm
working
on
doing
a
30
inch
connection
30
to
20
inch
connection,
it's
a
small
little
project
that
we're
doing
to
be
able
to
circumvent
this,
so
that
I
have
another
way
of
feeding
it.
So
we're
looking
at
all
our
options.
What
I
can
do
right
now
I
have
pipe
material
available.
I
have
repair
clamps,
I
have
specialty
contractors
available.
S
R
R
S
A
V
So
this
line
right
here
it
does.
This
line,
deliver
clean,
filtered
water
to
the
tank.
S
S
V
S
V
So
you're
saying
that,
because
of
the
pressure
nothing
entered
this
pipe
through,
this
pitting
correct,
was
the
pitting
on
top
or
on
the
bottom,
just
the
bottom,
okay.
So
the
company
that
installed
this
particular
pipe
50
years
ago,
do
we
not
have
paperwork
or
data
on
any
of
the
other
lines
that
were
also
installed
at
that
time
by
the
same
company
that
maybe
the
same
problem
is
happening.
S
V
Reason
why
I'm
asking
is
because
the
problem
that
I
see
is
that
we're
not
proactive
we're,
not
we
don't
exhibit
proactive
actions.
We
don't
we're
not
proactive
in
our
policies.
The
way
we
operate
for
me
that
would
have
been
a
proactive
move
that
would
have
been
something
that
would
have
been
like.
Oh
if
we
know
that
this
line
was
50
years
ago,
it
happened
here.
What
other
you
know,
lines
have
the
same
problem
but
you're
saying
that
they
didn't
even
look
it
up.
V
So
that
concerns
me
because
every
time
we
have
an
issue
we're
talking
about,
you
know
what
happened,
but
we
don't
have
systems
in
place
to
prevent
anything.
I
mean.
We
know
that
there's
parts
of
laredo
downtown
that
the
water
comes
out
of
their
faucet
and
it's
not
it's
brown.
We
know
that
right,
you
know,
were
we
proactive
in
any
of
those
things
like
this
is
another
thing
for
me
that
it's
just
the
valves
I
mean
we
could
have
made
sure
that
all
of
our
valves
were
working.
V
V
You
know
exacerbation
of
the
problem,
but
instead
because
we
have
one
problem
here
and
then
we're
also
not
proactive
with
our
valves
and
because
we're
also
not
here
doing
this
all
of
it
just
collapses
all
at
once
I
mean
how
can
the
citizens
of
laredo
feel
comfortable
that
the
water
coming
out
of
their
faucet
is
drinkable?
I
mean
that's
really.
Our
main
idea
here
is
like
how
do
we
restore
faith
in
our
ability
to
provide
clean
water
to
our
constituents?
A
I
think
it
adds
to
your
point
to
council
member
pettis.
It
appears
that
we,
like
the
systems,
checks.
You
know
like
every
so
often,
and
also
too
I
mean
my
question:
do
we
have
the
personnel?
Do
you
like
personnel,
qualified
personnel
to
you
know
to
to
over?
You
know
to
do
this
kind
of
work,
because
really
this
is
a
time
you
know
we
need
to
correct
this,
so
it
won't
happen
again.
Well,.
S
A
Okay,
yeah
the
fact
that
we're
we're
now
hiring
consultants
to
to
do
it
is
that
mr
selman,
is
that
a
customary
to
to
hire
consultants
or
have
people
in-house,
or
is
that
a
question
of
choice
for
municipalities?
You
know.
E
There's
just
variables
on
that
mayor,
depending
on
the
magnitude
of
the
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done,
the
project,
whether
or
not
that
whether
or
not
there's
the
expertise
you
can
have
pes
on
your
team,
but
they
may
not
be
experts
in
certain
elements
of
what
would
occur
in
the
field.
So
again,
it
depends
on
the
scenarios
as
to
whether
or
not
you
would
seek
outside
outside
consultant
or
in-house.
Thank
you.
Yes,
ma'am.
V
You
know
there
was
some
pushback
on
that,
because
we
got
caught
up
in
like
verifying
their,
whether
or
not
they
graduated
from
high
school,
and
then
we
would
verify
their
college
and
then
we
would
verify
their
certificates.
You
know
we
just
we
need
to
be
more
efficient
in
the
way
we
do
things
I
mean.
Where
are
we
on
that?
Like
is
everybody
in
the
water
department
up
to
date
on
their
certifications?
V
V
We
you
know,
these
are
all
things
that
we
could
have
taken
care
of,
but
now
we're
waiting
until
the
public
eye
is
on
us
to
say:
oh
we're
going
to
start
doing
these
things
like
we
should
have
done
this
before,
like
we
keep,
you
know
getting
into
big
big
big
problems
because
we're
not
we're
not
being
proactive,
and
I
I
just
I'm
so
frustrated
by
that.
Q
T
Q
Many
of
these
vacancies
have
not
been
failed
since
year,
six
months,
two
years.
T
I'd
have
to
go
district
division
by
division,
but
there
are
some
that
have
been
vacant
for
a
while
distribution
alone.
It's
very
hard
to
fill.
We
have.
You
know
the
met:
laborers,
mechanics,
the
heavy
equipment
operators,
the
back
the
truck
drivers.
We
can't
find
anybody
right
now.
No
one's
applying.
Q
And
this
is
where
I'm
going
towards
that
in
budget
this
council
had
requested
and
we
had
asked
because
their
wage
competitive
pay
wages
for
people
who
we
won't
have
that
turnover
rate.
So
much
but
again
they
have
been
attacking
us
management
has
told
us
no
many
many
times
ago,
and
I
said
you
know
what,
if
we
have
60
vacancies
drop
it
down
to
40,
so
we
could
go
ahead
and
do
competitive
weight
gain
wages,
so
people
can
be
addressed,
so
people
can
be
fixed
in
these
types
of
pipes.
Q
People
can
be
addressing
these
type
of
situations
because
we're
lacking
in
manpower.
The
people
are
running
on
one
hour,
two
hours
of
sleep,
the
people
that
are
just
in
this
pipe.
How
functional
can
you
be
with
the
lack
of
sleep
and
it's
it's
gonna,
it's
bound
to
repeat
because,
as
our
director
has
said,
we
don't
know
how
many
feet
or
miles
of
this
untreated
pipe.
It
already
exists,
it's
already
50
years,
so
it's
just
a
matter
of
time
and
are
ready
to
address
this
situation.
Q
If
it
were
to
happen
again,
that's
why
we
asked
about
the
vows.
These
valves
need
to
be
addressed
because
if
it
does
happen
tomorrow,
hopefully
these
cutoff
valves
are
now
working
in
place
or
we
need
to
address
it
with
new
house
coming
in
place,
because
we
cannot
have
this.
We
cannot
have
the
residence
of
laredo
for
another
week
without
water.
A
Could
I
answer
that
too?
I
know
mr
salmon
and
your
initial
comments.
You
did
state
that
one-third
or
what
was
it
humans
were
saying
that
one-third
of
our
system
either
transmission
and
distribution
lines
or
beyond
50
years.
A
A
And
I
think
we
had
over
a
thousand
miles.
Is
it
or
a
thousand
miles
yeah
it's
in
that
one
thousand
yeah.
So
that's
you
know
to
me
fifty
years
and
above
I
mean
we
can
expect
more
of
this,
and
so
you
know
we
need
to
get
after
this
pretty
quick.
Thank
you.
V
They
should
feel
confident
that
the
water
that
they
have
is
drinkable,
and
I
go
back
to
what
I
said
about
district
8.
like
there's
people
in
in
district
8,
that
the
water
is
not
the
color
of
water.
It's
brown,
I
mean
what
are
we
doing
to
address
even
things
like
that
again?
Are
we
going
to
wait
for
another
pipe
burst
or
something
like
that
to
happen
before
we
start?
V
I
mean
this
whole
thing
with
the
you
know
not
having
enough
staff,
we
can't
serve
our
citizens
if
we
don't
have
the
staff
so
either
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
figure
it
out.
I
mean
we
we've
been
trying,
but
it's
not
working,
so
we
could
talk
about
all
day
about
what
went
wrong
and
we
can
talk
for
hours
and
hours,
but
the
public
just
for
them.
It's
like.
Am
I
going
to
have
clean
water,
yes
or
no,
because
I'm
paying
for
it
and
I'm
not
getting
it
and
that's.
V
A
Can
I
help
you
for
the
other
speakers?
Well,
I
think
you
bring
a
very
interesting
point.
Miss
perez.
What
I
gather
from
your
thoughts
is
that
women
have
to
start
storing
water.
You
know
good
bottled
water
say
for
three
or
four
days.
You
know
realistically,
because
you
know
the
incidence
of
this
happening.
Is
there
right?
So
you
know
realistically,
I
think
we
need
to
prepare
for
that
and
and
it's
sad
to
say,
but
but
that's
that's
something
that
is
very
real.
W
All
right
go
ahead,
mr
garcia,
if
I
may,
what
time
frame
do
we
have
to
we
start
putting
these
so-called
pigs
in
these
lines?
When
will
that
start
happening,
and
when
will
we
know
how
much
time
it's
going
to
take
to
start
replacing
these
lines?
Obviously
we
know
that
they're
very
outdated
you're
talking
a
line
of
50
some
years
old.
We
have
some
that
are
60
some
years
old
right,
one
particularly
going
to
del
mar
seat,
an
area
that
I
represent.
W
That
area
was
developed
in
and
that's
when
those
lines
put
in
even
before
then
so
we're
expecting
to
have
problems
there
very
soon.
Is
there
a
plan
in
place
to
know
when
we're
going
to
start
replacing
these
lines?
Are
the
monies
available,
mr
summon,
to
start
replacing
these
lines?
These
thousand
miles
of
lines
that
we
need
to
start
replacing,
obviously
we're
going
to
prioritize
them
to
which
ones
are
the
oldest,
but
do
we
have
a
plan
in
place
for
that
already.
S
That's
we're
working
towards
that
plan
and
developing
our
master
plan
identifying
those
areas
that
we
need
to
focus
on
or
where
we
need
to
replace.
The
assessment
will
get
us
to
that
point
faster
to
identify
what
is
happening
underground,
because
a
lot
of
this
stuff
is,
you
can't
see
it.
We
have
to
investigate
it
and
assess
it,
and
as
far
as
working
with
the
consultants,
I'm
already
working
with
those
groups
to
get
proposals
to
get
scope
of
work,
develop
scopes
of
work
and
I'll
be
presenting
that
to
to
you
all.
S
I'm
trying
to
ask
for
them
to
get
them
to
me
as
soon
as
possible.
I
would
need
to
visit
with
them
again
to
see
what
kind
of
timeline
I
have
I'll
try
to
do
it
in
two
weeks
to
three
weeks.
W
Get
something
just
start
putting
those
those
pauses
into
place.
I
think
what
councilmember
bettis
is
asking
for
is
his
checks
and
balances.
The
city
needs
to
come
to
a
certain
point
when
it
comes
to
start
checking
ourselves
as
to
what
is
going
on
specifically
when
it
comes
to
water.
I've
been
here
a
year,
there's
already
been
two
to
three
water
boilers.
Well,
I've
been
here
something
that
is
completely
ridiculous,
something
in
a
city
this
size
should
not
be
dealing
with,
especially
in
this
21st
century.
W
It's
something
that
you
are
the
director
of
now
and
it's
something
we
expect
you
to
be
taking
care
of
these
issues.
Yes,
specifically
be
proactive,
not
reactive,
when
it
comes
to
these
situations.
Yes,
thank
you.
Okay,.
O
So
I'm
a
bit
puzzled
at
the
comments
we're
hearing
right,
although
I
think
your
comment
is
not
ill-intended.
I
think
it's
very
unfair
for
us
to
tell
the
consumer.
The
customer
of
our
water
go
out
there
and
buy
a
water
tank,
try
and
get
batinarco
from
novolarelo,
because
this
is
going
to
happen
again.
It's
ridiculous
and
we're
talking
we're
probably
going
to
talk
about
water
hikes,
we're
probably
going
to
talk
about
water
increases
and
talk
about
how
to
pay
this
debt
that
we're
hearing
we're
going
to
incur.
O
I
think
this
is
just
a
soft
portion
of
the
presentation.
The
presentation
we
got
in
front
of
us
has
a
bunch
of
amps
next
to
single
digit
and
double
digit
numbers,
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
right
and
for
us
to
expect
a
rate
payer
to
pay
higher
rates
financing,
how
we're
allegedly
going
to
fix
this
throughout
a
certain
amount
of
years
and
saying
start
storing
water.
Now,
because
we
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
down,
the
road
is
unacceptable
right.
It's
not
just
the
cons.
O
O
S
O
S
Water
right
now,
as
we
as
I'm
speaking
to
you,
we're
doing
small
bypass
systems
to
help
alleviate
the
problem
that
we
had
and
we're
identifying
those
areas,
these
smaller
projects
for
the
problem,
areas
that
we
encountered
during
this
event,
those
are
small
projects
that
are
moving
forward
with
the
crews,
identifying
those
critical
valves,
repairing
those
valves
preparing
the
gearboxes
that
and
verifying
if
they
work.
I
still
have
those
specialty
contractors
available
in
case
something
happens
so
that
I'm
able
to
respond
quicker.
O
Something
else
I
wanted
to
to
bring
up
going
back
to
making
a
point
on
council
member
perez's
discussion
on
personnel
and
the
amount
of
vacancies
you
have
could
the
amount
of
vacancies
you
have
be
because
of
high
turnover
in
your
department.
There
is
turnover
I
know.
S
O
O
You've
you've
been-
and
I
don't
want
to
make
this
personal,
but
we've
had
you
know
mr
garcia
was
there's
assistant
director,
mr
rogers,
mr
selman
have
also
been
there.
My
question,
I
guess,
is
we're
barely
starting
to
intervene
on
pain
now
or
have
you
all
tried
ever
since
mr
mia
was
there
as
as
a
director,
because
I
mean
I'm
sorry,
I'm
trying
to
understand
this
and
if
there's
a
high
turnover,
then
I
think
either
council
directs
the
city
manager
to
start
some
sort
of
investigation
within
your
department.
O
Is
there
I
mean
some
sort
of
unhealthy
work
environment
there
is
there
issues
I
mean
I
was
listening
to
the
last
civil
service
meeting
with
some
situation
we
had
going
on
and
I
think
all
that
contributes
to
the
operations
of
of
a
department,
mr
sullivan,
and
I
mean
we
really
need
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
this,
whether
we
exercise
our
authority
and
powers,
investigative
powers
as
a
council
and
inter
and
intervene
if
the
city
manager
is
not
going
to
do
this
or
we
have
our
auditor
start
going
to
specifically
right
now.
O
This
department,
which
is
you
know,
an
issue
to
see
what
really
the
problem
is,
because
we
I
mean
it
seems
to
be
not
only
infrastructure,
it
seems
to
be
personnel.
I
got
a
call
that
there's
some
superintendents
that
are
not
licensed.
I
don't
know
if
that's
true
or
not,
but
I
would
hope
that
you
can
answer
that
question
superintendents
are
licensed,
are
assistant,
superintendents.
Are
these
persons.
O
A
V
Councilmember
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
it
if
technically
they
may
be
licensed
right,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
their
certificates
are
up
to
date.
Also,
so
you
know
what
we
have.
Yes,.
B
A
E
A
Yes,
don't
you
want
to
tell
us
that
you
have
no
yeah
we're
done?
Okay,
do
we
have
anything
else
on
the
36
inch
line?
Do
you
want
to
proceed?
Yeah?
You
mentioned
the
20
inch
from
la
casa
blanca.
Do
we
have
any
questions
for
the
gentleman,
mr
garcia
on
that
and
that's
a
redundancy
to
the
bartlett
tank
correct.
S
S
S
A
R
Guess
on
the
36
inch
line,
so
just
to
be
clear
because
the
the
36
inch
transmission
line
is
very
important
to
to
all
of
us
getting
our
water
because
they
feed
the
big
tanks.
They
feed
the
tanks
that
feed
the
root
system,
and
so
that
probably
is
your
priority.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
that
is
a
priority.
Okay,
once
those
are,
are
secure
and
ready
to
go.
R
R
Right-
and
I
know
that
in
my
district,
at
least
in
the
heights
area
that
was
built
in
the
early
50s,
I
know
that
we're
having
a
lot
of
water
line
breaks
the
ones
going
into
our
homes,
and
I
know
that
you've
been
just
down
my
street
you're
from
the
from
the
1500
block
to
the
20
second
100
block.
Just
on
my
street
alone.
You've
had
six
line
breaks
along
the
line,
so
I.
G
R
A
Correct,
mr
sun,
I
know
you
wanted
to
you'll
be
asking
for
a
motion
on
that
36
inch
line.
Do
you
want
to
wait?
Do
you
want
to
hear
it
now?
It's
up
to
the
council
mayor
yeah.
I
was
so
moved
that
that
we
proceed
on
on
whatever
is
necessary
to
to
replace
or
whatever
system
that
that
mr
rossi
and
the
consultants
and
you
all
management
deems
necessary
to
to
to
fix
that
36
inch
line
or
even
bigger.
For
some
reason,
I've
been
seeing
that
the
intent
all
along
was
a
48
inch.
S
I
believe
one
of
the
older
master
plants
identified
a
48
inch,
but
in
reviewing
what's
happened
with
the
addition
of
el
pico,
because
most
of
that
flow
was
going
to
the
north.
But
now
we
don't
need
that
much
volume
coming
in
through
that
36.
We
can
suffice
with
a
36
right
now
and
and
also
we
have
also
el
pico-
that's
feeding
the
north.
So
originally
that
was
for
feeding
the
north
system.
A
Okay
and
along
the
36-inch
line,
it's
my
understanding
that
we,
as
of
2019,
were
there
abouts.
We
did
authorize
management
to
go
out
on
bonds
to
cover
that,
and
that's
that's
currently
covered
under
the
debt
service
that
we
currently
have
correct.
So
there's
no
need
for
that.
You
know
for
us
to
even
consider
a
rate
hike
at
this
point
to
to
take
care
of
that
36
inch
line,
correct.
S
Correct
to
address
the
immediate
need
right
now
for
the
36,
and
I
would
also
like
the
24
inch
feed
line
to
a
bartlett
tank,
because
that
that's
okay,
if
anything
else
happens
in
the
system.
A
Yeah,
I
would
include
that
as
well,
so
whatever
it
takes
to
to
do
those
two
projects
and
and
financing,
I'm
obviously
paying
for
them,
and
so
is
there
a
cycle
yeah?
The
motion
is
to
to
take
to
yeah.
I
want
to
say
repair,
but
it's
not
necessarily
repair.
A
It's
either
replaced
or
whatever
actually
needs
to
be
done
to
to
assure
ourselves
that
that
36
inch
line
is,
will
be
operational
soon
for
a
second
for
purposes
of
discussion
and
and
the
24
inch
line
as
well
and
to
pay
for
it
without
rate
hikes.
At
this
point
so.
S
A
No,
we
did
and
that's
a
question
that
I
posed
to
mr
selma:
was
it
like
43
million?
No,
could
you
address
that
since
that's
brought
up
and
it's
very
important
sometime
back,
would
you
tell
us
basically
what
council
did.
X
Yes,
mayor
on
the
2019
rate,
increase
council
did
authorize
for
water
and
wastewater
189
million
dollar
bond
issue
of
that.
So
far
we
have
issued
452
for
the
water
development
board
and
about
50
million
for
water
system,
and
that
went
to
part
of
that.
One
you
see
lion
tank
is
under
construction
and
some
of
these
lines
are
under
design,
and
so
we
still
have
about
another
50
plus
7
50
plus
million
dollar,
which
we
are
planning
to
sell
this
year.
X
X
Some
of
this
project.
We
did
submitted
a
application
to
water
development
board.
Hopefully
we
will
be
lucky
if
not,
we
just
have
to
fund
it
by
ourselves.
Okay
and
and
mr
noehinohosa
can
tell
you
our
existing
rate
structure,
I
can
cover
most
of
this
date,
not
the
new
one
but
the
existing,
the
cip.
We
have.
Q
Real
quick,
yes,
sir,
I
know
we're
addressing
the
lion
tank
or
the
36
inch
distribution.
But
again
I've
come
before
this
council
and
I've
asked
the
359
area.
How
do
we
address
it,
or
is
that
going
to
be
on
the
back
border?
Because
I
don't
expect
that
to
be
on
the
back
burner,
because
since
three
or
four
years
ago
we've
been
advocating
every
time
there's
a
water
boil
notice,
that's
the
first
area
hit.
X
Though
some
of
those
projects
are
already
under
design,
we
did
acquire
the
property
for
those
booster
stations.
That's
why
I
said
the
part
of
the
new
born
cell.
You
will
have
those
projects
funded
for
construction,
no.
Q
X
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second,
mr,
what's
up,
what's
the
time.
S
Your
story
as
soon
as
yesterday,
but
I
think
if
I
can
respond
to
one
particular
questions
that
issue
and
359,
that
we're
currently
doing
a
an
extension
of
a
16
inch
line
that
will
help
feed
with
this
12
inch
line
that
we
took
care
of
we're,
making
a
16
inch
extension
to
help
feed
the
system,
especially
some
of
those
neighborhoods
that
were
built
on
a
higher
elevation,
because
there
a
difference
in
elevation
some
of
these
areas
and
we're
trying
to
address
that
need
right
now.
Because
of
that
growth.
S
G
A
Yeah,
can
I
call
him
mr
norjos,
I
just
want
for
him
to
so
we
can
hear
it
from
you
to
confirm
that
there's
no
rate
hike
necessary
at
this
point
to
cover
at
least
those
projects
that
we
just.
Y
May
survive
yeah
and
also
for
the
record
with
australian
housing
company
right
now.
What
I
understand.
N
Y
During
this
year
there
will
be
a
five
percent
rate
increase
for
water.
That's
on
your
current,
I
think
rate
ordinance
and
without
you
having
to
do
any
further
than
this
year,
you
can
probably
fund
about
177.
A
A
Y
Okay,
and
if
you
do
the
rate
increases
succeeding
rate
increase
of
three
million
three
percent
a
year
through
through
2031,
you
can
fund
about
600
million
if
things
stay
where
they
are
today,
more
or
less
in
terms
of
interest
rates,
a
lot
of
concern
with
inflation,
a
lot
of
volatility
in
the
interest
rate
markets,
war,
ukraine,
what's
happening
now
with
factors
that
you
and
I
cannot
control
it's
affected
supply
chain.
So
things
may
be
more
expensive.
Y
Texas,
water
development
board
has
now
included
in
their
programs
no
zero
percent
interest
rates.
Now
you
can
borrow
with
a
limit
or
a
base
limit
of
1.7,
that's
the
lowest
rate
you
could
get
and
and
then
only
you
can
apply
for
so
much
and
you
can
only
qualify
for
so
much.
So
it's
not
like
what
it
used
to
be
three
or
four
years
ago.
There's
a
lot
of
demand
for
those
funds.
There's
still
a
lot
of
needs
all
over
the
state.
Y
Y
You
know
where
you
may
have
to
borrow
some,
but
right
now
the
city
happens
to
be
in
a
very
sound
financial
condition.
You
have
ability,
I
mean
if
you
would
have
asked
me
about
water
and
sewer
a
year
ago
when,
when
we
thought
we
needed
rate
rate
increases,
and
you
gave
you
gave
us
those
rate
increases,
we
actually
had
very
favorable
results.
So
give
you
a
perspective
in
2020,
the
net
revenues
of
water
system
were
about
35
million
dollars
in
change.
Y
36
million
in
2021
those
net
revenues
available
to
pay
that
service
increased
by
9
million
dollars,
and
it
was
a
function
of
5
million
more
in
additional
revenues
caused
by
rate
increases
and
two
or
three
million
dollars
caused
by
less
expenses.
So
you
know
from
that
side
things
look
well.
We
are
very
vigilant.
Y
Every
time
we
come
before
you,
we've
got
to
make
sure
we've
done
everything
the
way
it's
supposed
to
be
done
and
cross
our
keys
and
and
it's
kind
of
interesting.
I've
looked
back
at
data
on
debt
to
2012
and
you're
literally
right
at
par,
except
for
the
utility
system,
or
you
made
improvements
or
you
made
more
expenses
from
utilities
I'll
be
happy
to
share
that
with
staff.
So
they
can
share
that
with
you
at
a
later
time.
A
A
You
know
so
far-
we've
spoken
about
the
36
inch
line
and
we're
talking
about
the
24
inch
line,
mr
garcia,
yes,
and
and
then
also
taking
care
of
the
concerns
in
south
florida.
Yeah.
B
W
Y
For
the
next,
for
the
next
thing,
what
I
thought
instead
of
three
would
be
five
because
the
base,
I
thought
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
consultants
or
staff,
I
thought
it
was
going
to
be
a
three
percent
increase.
It
went
up
to
five.
This
would
be
the
last
year
you
go
up
to
five
from
here
on.
You
got
three
percent
increases
through
2031.
W
W
Y
You
do
nothing
based
on
numbers
that
were
given
to
us.
You
mean
nothing
in
terms
of
great
increases
in
terms
of
great
english.
Thank
you
for
clarifying
that
so,
basically,
based
on
results
that
were
given
to
us
on
an
estimated
basis
because
they
have
been
audited,
your
capacity
should
be
at
about
180
their
values.
W
N
Y
V
Mr
garcia,
you
made
a
comment
right
now.
You
said
something
about
a
development
that
happened
overnight.
What
did
you?
What
are
you
talking
about
a
development
that
happened
overnight?
You.
N
V
S
No
there's
what
I
was
referring
to
is:
there's
a
project
that
we're
doing
on
359,
there's
a
connection.
There's
the
growth
that's
occurring
on
the
south
side
of
359.
It's
that
subdivision.
It
was
built
on
a
higher
elevation
and
it's
causing
us
problems
not
to
be
able
to
meet
the
pressure.
What.
S
S
V
Well,
you
see,
I
mean
this
is
another,
goes
back
to
what
I've
always
been
saying
like
we
grow,
but
we
don't
smart
grow.
We're
not
we're
not
we're
not.
You
know,
practicing
smart
growth,
we're
we're
just
growing
and
growing
and
growing
and
building
and
doing
all
these
things.
But
then
we
come
back
with
these
problems.
The
problems
like
to
go
into
the
houses,
those
are
not
city
laid
pipes.
V
Those
are
developer
laid
pipes
that
you
know
are
starting
to
burst
in
certain
neighborhoods
looping
of
lines
that
didn't
happen,
that
the
developer
didn't
do
when
they
put
in
the
subdivision
and
now
we're
having
to
go
back
and
loop
them.
V
So
that's
why
I
was
concerned
that
you
even
mentioned
it,
because
I
don't
think
we
should
be
blaming
new
growth
on
problems
and
if
it
is
a
problem
or
it's
causing
a
problem,
then
why
did
we
approve
it
in
the
first
place
and
developments?
Don't
just
go
up
overnight.
It's
a
long
process
before
they
go.
You
know
actually
break
ground,
so
it
didn't
happen
overnight.
There
were
so
many
phases
and
stages
of
approval
that
nobody
considered
that
this
was
going
to
be
an
issue
and
now
we're
having
another
problem
citywide
and
we're
blaming
new
development.
A
D
It's
related
to
this
matter
that
we're
talking
about
sir
okay,
I'd
like
to
make
a
quick
comment.
We
touched
on
it
just
briefly
the
way
to
help
yourselves
and
help
our
city
is
with
the
id
inspection
of
that
pipe,
it's
commonly
referred
to
as
a
pig.
Actually,
it's
a
really
intelligent
device.
D
This
device
will
tell
you
about
the
integrity
of
your
pipe
regardless.
If
the
holes
are
on
the
bottom
or
the
top
or
the
sides,
when
you,
I
doubt
you
know-
and
I
don't
know-
but
I
doubt
if
we've
ever
picked
our
lines,
I
doubt
if
we
have
a
pig
launcher
or
a
pig
receiver.
I
I
think
that
it's
very
important
for
us
to
calculate
the
dollars.
After
we
have
that
id
inspection.
D
D
D
And
you
know
these
pigs,
these
devices
will
tell
you
the
integrity
of
your
pipe
regardless
if
it's
steel,
concrete
whatever
you
have,
and
it's
also
recommended
to
go
very
slow,
but
these
these
people
that
will
inspect
your
system,
they
do
know
what
they're
doing,
and
it's
very
key
to
help
you
figure
out.
I.
A
You,
mr
martens,
yes,
sir
yeah,
can
we
yeah
yeah?
Let
me
call
for
the
question
I
think,
because,
unless
this
is
more
on
the
same
on
the
on
the
motion,
that's
on
the
table,
no
call
for
the
question
always
in
papers.
Hey
all.
G
O
U
O
C
A
W
E
Okay,
we
just
did
that
for
for
a
lunch
break.
We
recessed
we
reconvened
at
any
time.
In
that
meeting,
there
can
be
a
motion
to
waive
the
order
of
the
agenda,
whatever
you
want
to
go
back
to
yeah
correct.
So
if
there's
someone
that
comes
here
that
wants
to
provide
comment,
or
if
you
want
us
when
once
you
reconvene,
you
could
get
a
motion
to
waive
the
order
of
the
agenda
and
go
back
to
public
comment.
O
Well,
anyone
can
just
get
up
and
speak
if
the
mayor
allows
them
to
oh,
and
I
would
like
that's
this
is
I
I
think,
we're
missing
the
point
here.
The
intention
is,
if
we
recess
today
and
reconvene
tomorrow,
the
media
will
probably
let
the
public
I
mean,
I'm
trying
to
say
there
was
no
public
notice
on
the
5
pm
become
for
us
to
reconvene
at
5
pm
and
the
whole
purpose
of
us
making
our
per
our.
O
I
guess
voices
heard
for
constituents
on
this
5
pm
deal
was
not
to
oh
well,
let's
just
reconvene
in
five
and
no
one
knows
I
mean
that
we're
recommending
five,
but
rather
reconvening
tomorrow,
right
or
I
mean
maybe
next
week
on
monday
or
something
I
mean,
I
don't
know
it's
just
something
to
throw
out
there,
but
that's
why
I
was
asking
legal.
We
could
only
reconvene
within
a
24-hour
period
from
the
moment
we
temporarily
adjourn.
O
U
O
A
S
Go
ahead,
we'd
like
to
pass
it
on
to
the
consultant,
so
the
lan,
so
they
can
present
the
master
plan
portion.
Wonderful.
Thank
you.
A
S
AA
Sir
good
afternoon,
all
it
is
good
to
be
back
and
to
see
you
all
yeah,
your
name
again
for
the
carl
shumate
with
la
interlockwood,
andrews
and
netham
is
my
slide
up,
and
I
want
to
start
a
little
off
topic
just
for
a
moment
or
off
script
and
go
back
to
a
couple
things
that
have
been
said
just
because
they're
top
of
mind
and
they
they
do
relate.
Hopefully
I
would
not
overlook
them
in
our
presentation
today,
but
to
the
council
members
question
about
the
359
area.
AA
It
doesn't
get
a
lot
of
attention
in
the
presentation
today.
It's
certainly
part
of
the
short-term
plan
it
does
get
addressed,
and
I
want
to
go
back
to
mr
mia's
statement
or
description
about
the
way
your
system
is
laid
out.
Just
you
know
going
from
the
treatment
plan
in
production,
as
we've
talked
about
today,
through
large
transmission
lines,
you
know
major
portion
of
your
conveyance
out
to
booster
pump
station
facilities
where
it's
delivered
the
ground,
storage,
tanks,
pumps.
There
then
pump
it
out
to
additional
transmission
lines.
AA
I
kind
of
categorize
those
in
terms
of
size
a
lot
of
times.
It's
convenient
to
talk
in
terms
of
say,
24,
inch
and
larger
lines,
being
transmission,
20
inch
and
smaller
lines
being
distribution.
AA
So
you
know
with
that
in
mind
and
just
the
focus
on
the
36
inch
line
break.
You
know
later
you'll
see
in
slides
today.
You
know
our
our
focus
has
kind
of
been
on
in
the
short
term,
those
things
that
are
more
upstream
or
in
that
that
the
chain
that
sequence,
where,
if
that
break
that
you
know
weak
link
happens
to
be
upstream
in
your
system,
can
cause
those
bigger
effects
or
impacts
downstream
to
larger
areas
of
the
system.
AA
So
that's
the
reason
for
the
approach
and
the
thinking
today
in
what
we're
going
to
talk
about.
Let
me
move
oh
and
I'm
sorry,
one
other
thing
again,
just
kind
of
because
it's
y'all
talked
about
a
lot
today
and
it's
it's
like
say
top
of
mind.
If
it
gives
you
something
to
think
about,
maybe
a
question
for
for
this
afternoon.
I
know
both
the
36
inch
line
and
then
the
parallel
20
inch
line
have
been
been
touched
on.
AA
As
a
you
know,
background
in
hydraulics-
and
you
know
career
of
30
plus
years
now
in
water
systems
and
helping
municipalities,
so
the
relative
capacities
of
those
things
and
the
ability
of
that
20
inch
line,
then
to
substitute
for
that
36
inch
in
conveying
water
from
the
jefferson
plant
out
to
the
lion
pump
station.
AA
If,
if
you
call
that
you
know
both
loans
lines
operating
parallel,
whatever
flow
they're,
conveying
is
a
hundred
percent,
so
the
36
inch
line
will
carry
about
75
to
80
percent
of
that
flow.
The
20
inch
line
only
then
about
20
to
25.
AA
AA
AA
AA
It's
transitioned
then,
into
you,
know,
cip,
we're
starting
to
talk
about
real
projects
and
dollars
associated
with
those.
I
really
kind
of
wanted
to
start
with
the
third
bullet
point
here
and
just
say
again
that
you
know
we
haven't
started
anything
from
scratch.
It's
all
built
on.
You
know
previous
capital
prod
or
excuse
me
current
capital
program
and
previous
master
plans.
AA
You
know
the
planning
process
going
back
to
the
first
bullet
is
about
you
know.
Looking
ahead,
both
you
know,
anticipating
projects
like
we're
talking
about
today
that
address
immediate
needs.
You
know
making
sure
we
don't
end
up
in
a
situation
again
and
then
for
future
growth.
You
know
in
hydraulic
modeling
terms.
Of
course,
I
think
about
those
things
that
can
improve
operations.
Potentially
level
of
service
is
a
term
that
we
use.
It
probably
ought
to
explain.
AA
You
know
from
our
previous
status
or
progress
update
a
lot
of
times.
We
think
or
talk
about
that
just
in
terms
of
pressure,
but
that
thinking
can
certainly
be
extended
in
a
lot
of
ways
to
you,
know:
redundancy
and
reliability
of
the
system
and
things
that
we
all
talk
about
as
well,
and
that
reminds
me
too,
I
guess
the
term
bypass
is
used
and
I've
kind
of
thought.
In
my
mind,
you
know
what
are
we
trying
to
achieve
or
what
are
we
talking
about?
AA
AA
Fourth
bullet
here,
just
you
know
preparing
for
water
supply
vulnerabilities.
You
know
we've
mentioned
already.
You
know
you're
well
aware.
I
know
about
the
the
your
source
being
a
sole
source
in
the
rio
grande
and
then
again
the
36
inch
line
where
you
can
those
emergency
outages
and
just
the
potential
for
those
things,
and
how
do
we
either
avoid
it
entirely
or
certainly
minimize
the
impact
when
those
things
occur
and
again,
just
going
back
to
your
career
experience.
I
could
tell
you
war
stories
about.
AA
AA
You
know,
and
then
I
know
it
gets-
maybe
a
majority
of
the
attention,
but
you
know
looking
at
and
understanding
laredo's
financial
impacts
potentially
and
those
financing
needs
that
you
know.
Other
consultants
are
helping
to
address.
AA
In
upcoming
slides
each
of
the
proposed
projects,
you
know
kind
of
fits
into
one
of
these
categories.
Again.
This
has
been
kind
of
our
theme.
You
know
looking
at
what's
what's
needed
on
the
production
side,
what
about
transmission
and
then
in
the
distribution
system,
and
you
can
see
each
of
those
needs
that
I've
hopefully
touched
on
already,
but
you
know
they
address
things
related
to
system
pressure,
reliability,
providing
some
redundancy.
AA
You
know
making
sure
you
have
an
adequate
supply
or
ability
to
convey
that
water
out
into
the
system
through
transmission
veins
and
then
making
sure
we
have
a
good
understanding
of
and
can
address
just
time
spent
in
the
system,
age
of
water
and
how
that
impacts,
quality
and
those
kind
of
things.
A
Yeah,
I
think,
based
on
on
the
last,
could
somebody
check
administration?
A
E
I'll
I'll
get
with
the
attorney
no
yeah.
Do
you
want
to
go
first
and
then.
O
AA
Where
it
was,
yeah
got
slides
back
up
yeah,
so
there's
three
pages
here.
This
is
not
comprehensive.
It
addresses,
or
at
least
speaks
to
most
of
the
projects
that
we've
identified
that
are
recommending
in
the
first
five-year
period.
AA
AA
So,
like
I
said
they
are
system-wide,
let's,
let's
look
at
a
picture
of
some
of
this
so
overall
in
time.
This
shows
all
those
projects
where
we
are
in
the
master
plan
report
process
is
now
that
we
have
the
list
of
projects
have
applied,
cost
estimates
to
them.
You
know
developing
sheets
on
each
of
those
that
you
know
take
this
break
it
down
illustrate
those
individually.
AA
AA
S
Q
AA
AA
Right,
there's
there's
a
lot
here
and
I
think
that
again
this
is
part
of
the
purpose
for
additional
workshops
as
well
to
get
into
more
detail
in
these
and
look
at
actual
sections
from
the
draft
master
plan
report
that
provide
a
lot
of
that
detail.
Q
We
should
be
able
to
answer
these
type
of
questions
concerning
the
citizens
of
what's
going
on,
because
many
citizens
might
be
able
to
attend
this
meeting
and
after
two
or
three
other
meetings,
and
we
have
to
go
back,
we
have
to
be
as
transparent
as
possible
and
if
these
are
going
to
be
fed
across
the
board
or
placed
in
different
type
of
numerical
order
for
priorities
which
ones
are
the
priorities
at
current
point,
do
we
have
a
map
or
do
we
have
a
list
currently
right
now
we
char,
which
are
our
priorities.
S
Currently,
the
priority,
like
I
said,
are
the
top
two.
The
rest
are
not
prioritized
yet
they're,
still
working
on
the
master
plan,
once
they've
finalized,
all
their
assumptions
and
and
the
modeling
then
we'll
prioritize
each
section,
depending
on
the
the
the
issues
and
problems
that
we're
having
in
the
system
three
slides
further
down.
You
had.
AA
Yeah,
so
all
of
these
are
in
the
orange
color
on
the
slide
coming
up
this
first
five
year
time
period
and
that's
typically
where
we've
you
know
from
the
modeling
and
planning
perspective,
you
know
develop
them
to
that
point
and
then
continue,
of
course,
to
work
with
some
city
staff.
Further
refine
that
and
get
down
to
you
know
annually
in
this
first
five
years,
so
we're
still
working
on
from
that
level.
AA
AA
As
I
mentioned,
you
know
this
exhibit
is
kind
of
an
overall.
It's
just
a
working,
you
know
exhibit
that
we
use
a
lot
internally
just
for
talking
purposes
and
identifying
these
in
the
short
term.
The
legend
is
too
small.
I
know
to
read
here,
but
the
orange
is
those
are
those
projects
proposed
in
this
first
five
years
and
then
other
colors
and
years
beyond
that
so
green
in
the
next
five-year
period,
yellow.
AA
That
followed
by
the
purple
and
blue,
and
just
in
anticipation
of
you,
know
either
where
projections
indicate
development's
likely
to
occur
in
the
existing
system.
You
know,
of
course,
where
there
may
be
in-field
growth,
where
there's
high
demand.
Now,
where
there's
a
need
based
again
like
on
the
need
for
redundancy
things
like
the
36
inch
break
and
addressing
those
kind
of
potential
issues,
and
with
you
know,
old
facilities
in
the
system
and.
A
We
can
safely
say
that
these
are
inner
city
projects,
line
replacements,
infrastructure
replacement,
correct
right,
okay,
thank.
B
AA
Right
this
is
where
I
really
wanted
to
focus
again,
because
this
you
know,
speaks
to
the
recent
events,
and
you
know
just
that.
Addressing
kind
of
the
first
link
in
this
conveyance
of
water
from
the
production
plant
through
transmission
line
conveyance
in
the
storage
and
then
out
beyond
that
through
this
tiered
system,
say
booster
pump
stations
so
and
able
to
point
yeah.
AA
So
this
orange
line,
of
course
running
directly
from
jefferson
to
lyon,
is,
is
the
proposed
one
to
replace
the
the
36
inch
line
more
capacity
in
the
future
or
beyond
that
not
distant
future,
but
still
short-term.
You
know
to
the
east
of
lyon
the
30-inch
line,
I
believe
it
was
mentioned.
You
know
the
orange
line
that
turns
her
excuse
me,
run
south
out
of
jefferson
and
then
turns
east
over
to
the
hendrick
pump
station
site.
AA
That
project
would
replace
again
an
aging
30-inch
line
so
from
hendricks
that
facility
doesn't
operate
today.
The
city
has
limited
facilities
still
on
that
side
and
hasn't
maintained
the
site.
So
it's
one
that's
easy
to
redevelop
into
a
booster
pump
station
that
again
can
fill
in
if
there's
ever
that
kind
of
a
need
to
continue
to
convey
water
on
south.
AA
This
proposed
project
from
say
I'm
starting
that
same
corner
at
hendrick
on
south
to
milmo,
bolster
supply
to
milmo
again
these
links
and
that
conveyance
of
water
from
the
treatment
plant
out
to
these
booster
pump
stations
in
far
regions
of
the
system
and
then
from
milmo
on
the
sierra
vista.
So
more
of
that
kind
of
thinking
in
providing
some
redundance
or
replacing
old
lines,
and
if
the
old
line
doesn't
fail,
then
you've
got
parallel
lines
and
high
degree
of
redundance.
AA
AA
So
yeah,
I
look
at
these
things
as
investment.
You
know,
you're
well
aware
you
know
you're
talking
about
it,
addressing
this
need
to
replace
aging
infrastructure,
that's
one
that
gets
lots
of
talk
in
the
civil
engineering
world,
so
you
know
maintaining
a
regular
program
of
replacing
a
small
percentage
of
systems
assets.
You
know
on
an
annual
basis
and
there
will
be
recommendations
in
the
report
about
that.
AA
AA
A
Thank
you.
Do
you
have
any
last
questions
or
comments
from
council
members?
I
know
I
thank
you
for
attention.
I
think
we
need
to
be
clear.
Can
I
get
mr
no
jose
just
that's
okay.
You
know
we
can
reiterate,
based
on
on
the
rate
structure
that
we
have.
A
You
know
we
can
go
up
to
about
180
million
through
through
what
year.
Basically.
Y
A
So,
given
the
current
rate
structure
which,
but
you
stated
you
know
through
2031,
we
can
bond
out
600
million
dollars.
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
You.
A
Sure
yeah
there's,
maybe
some
conditions,
interest
rates,
yeah
fluctuating
yeah,
yeah,
okay,
anything
else
is
there
a
motion
that
we
will.
Let's
bring
the
issue
of.
We
need
to
reach
this.
O
That
wants
to
speak,
but
I
just
wanted
to
ask:
how
long
have
we
been
working
on
this
master
plan.
AA
K
K
There's
and-
and
I
can
see
that
most
of
you
see
what
the
issue
is
and
there's
two
issues
is
one.
There
was
zero
dollars
spent
on
water
for
three,
maybe
four
years
the
the
system
was
essentially
just
abandoned
and
secondly,
as
a
lot
of
you
can
see
and
no
offense
to
anybody,
but
we
do
not
have
the
right
people
running
our
utility
system.
K
Now,
there's
a
lot
of
very
smart
men
behind
me
that
are
very
good
at
what
they
do
and
they're
also
going
to
be
very
good
at
helping
us
spend
our
money
because
we
do
not
have
the
people
that
we
need
that
can
do
the
job
that
they're
doing
right
now.
We
absolutely
need
people
to
come
in
here
and
do
work.
K
There's
there
is
old
age
infrastructure
that
needs
to
be
replaced,
but
when
we're
having
people
come
in
to
tell
the
people
that
that
should
work
for
us
that
should
know
what
to
do,
tell
them
what
to
do
and
they're,
essentially
showing
us
how
to
spend
money,
we're
going
to
be
don't
we
we're
going
to
be
in
financial
constraint
very
very
soon.
We
please
please,
I
implore
you,
please
do
what
needs
to
be
done
right
now,
there's
some
work
that
needs
to
be
done
right
now.
This
36
inch
line
absolutely
needs
to
be
replaced.
K
K
We're
we're
coming
up
to
an
election
year,
there's
going
to
be
a
new
administration
coming
in,
don't
leave
them
in
financial
rooms
where
nothing
can
be
done
before
the
right
moves
can
be
made,
and
I
see
that
the
majority
of
you
can
see
what
needs
to
be
done.
Let's
get
that,
let's
make
that
move
first
before
we
before
we
go
down,
and
we
want
to
spend
extremely
well.
Thank.
V
Much
I
just
kind
of
want
to
go
back
to
mr
garcia.
On
that
question
I
asked
earlier
about
that
pump.
How
much
are
we
spending
to
fix
that
poor
development
problem
like
how
much
are
we
spending
on
that
that
we're
going
to
seek
reimbursement
for.
S
The
money
and
then
seek
reimbursement
right
now,
the
reason
being
because
of
what
happened,
I'm
trying
to
move
it
earlier
on
the
development
hasn't
come
in
yet
he's
proposing
to
develop
more
lots.
That's
where
I
was
making
those
comments
for
that
development
to
make
that
tie-in,
but
because
of
what
happened,
I'm
trying
to
strengthen
the
system,
in
other
words,
I'd
rather
take
care
of
it
now
and
pay,
have
the
development
pay
for
it
later.
V
A
V
N
V
Think
we
should
be
in
the
business
of
subsidizing
development
and
seeking
reimbursement.
I
don't
think
that's
a
smart
use
of
taxpayer
monies.
I
understand
that
some
of
these
things
may
be
necessary,
but
at
the
same
time
we're
already
doing
that
with
the
looping
of
the
lines
we're
going
back,
fixing
problems
from
the
past,
and
you
know
the
taxpayers
are
footing
the
bill
for
it
in
terms
of
rate
increases,
which
nobody
wants
rate
increases,
I'm
not
in
favor
of
rate
increases
right
now.
V
So
I
would,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
look
at
the
turnover
issue
in
terms
of
pay
and
see,
if
there's
room
for
us
to
be
a
little
more
competitive
with
some
of
these
key
positions
before
we
have.
The
rate
study
come
in
second
motion.
A
G
A
Opportunity
for
a
motion,
if
they
so
desire,
counsel,
okay,
yeah
bring
it
back.
Is
there
a
second
second?
Second,
there
gutierrez
a
discussion
not
heard
all
those
in
favor
saying
all
right.
Any
opportunity,
kerry
says
the
item
of
of
having
recessed
and
then
reconvening
at
5.
30
is
is
on
the
table
and
yes
go
ahead.
W
Speaking
with
some
council
members,
it's
come
to
come
to
light
that
some
customers
will
not
be
able
to
make
it
back.
At
five
o'clock,
we've
already
moved
our
schedules
around
to
be
able
to
be
here,
12
and
now
to
reconvene
at
five.
It's
an
enormous
inconvenience
to
us
just
to
let
us
know
within
three
four
minutes
of
the
meeting,
starting
that
it's
going
to
be
changed
or
moved
or
continued
until
five
o'clock
p.m.
So
I
make
a
motion
to
have
a
meeting
sometime
next
week.
We
can
maybe
discuss
the
date
day.
O
Could
I
make
a
comment
on
that?
Please
sure
so
I
think
that
it's
not
so
much
because
some
council
at
least
not
for
me,
I
think,
there's
no
ample
notice
out
there
to
have
this
discussion
again
and
have
the
participation
and
the
intention
that
several
of
us
wanted.
By
having
a
later
meeting,
I
was
hoping
that
we
could
recess
and
maybe
reconvene
at
5
pm,
but
our
legal
team
is
telling
us.
We
can't
do
that
because
we
have
to
reconvene
within
24
hours
tomorrow.
U
O
Of
a
72
hour
notice
period
right
so
with
that
being
said,
I
suggest
an
offer
what
I
originally
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
we've
received,
I
think
information
right
now,
where
we
didn't
discuss
much
of
the
financing
to
me.
O
That's
the
most
important
thing
for
the
public
to
know
because
they
will
be
along
with
ourselves
and
all
the
ratepayers
paying
for
the
proposed
infrastructure
and
cost
that
the
following
workshop
and
from
here
on
any
water
issue
workshop
be
scheduled
if
it's
a
special
meeting
at
5
30
p.m,
and
that
is
the
amendment
I'd
like
to
offer
to
your
motion.
Counselor
gifts.
A
V
It's
not
usually
done,
we
upload
it
to
youtube,
and
then
people
have
to
watch
it,
but
I
think
we
should
make
this
workshop
information
kind
of
do
some
kind
of
marketing
push,
so
people
can
listen
and
then
they
can
be
prepared
for
the
next
workshop.
Oh.
Q
One
more
one
more
thing
here:
yes,
sir,
and
every
time
it's
mentioned
that
how
two
or
three
more
meetings
are
going
to
go
on
the
the
water
issue.
Can
we
go
ahead
and
just
pick
a
date,
so
people
can
know
in
advance
instead
of
going
meeting
by
meeting
by
meeting
just
go
ahead
and
set
them
across
the
board.
This
is
how
many
meetings
we're
going
to
have
at
5
30,
and
we
set
it
so
everybody
in
council
and
in
general
public
can
we
make
make
arrangements
to
attend
so
said.
O
One
more
comment
and
one
more
amendment
to
the
motion.
I
think
I
would
also
like
to
ask
for
council
to
consider
instructing
the
city
manager
to
host
a
press
conference
tomorrow.
Media
wasn't
available
here
either
to
discuss
what
motion
passed
and
make
the
public
aware
that
we're
moving
forward
with
repairing
that
36
inch
line
that
we're
looking
at
investing
34
million
dollars
in
the
infrastructure
and
making
not
through
a
press
release
but
a
press
conference
and
make
sure
the
media
is
here
so
that
the
public
knows
of
what
happened
today.
A
O
A
Oh,
he
he
will
okay,
so
which
we
do.
You
know
wait
about
three
amendments.
E
E
O
Make
a
suggestion:
could
we
do
the
third
the
wednesday
and
then
the
following
meeting
or
thursday?
That
way
we
offer
two
different
dates,
so
maybe
the
23rd
and
31st
that
way,
maybe
people
can
come
on
wednesdays
thursday
and
then
back
to
the
six.
If,
if
needed,.
A
Culprit,
thank
you.
You
might
go
with
that
yeah
who
made
the
motion.