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One
here
too
much
I
try
to
keep
this
volume
right
here.
How
does
that
sound
parcel
good?
All
right,
it's
great
to
be
here,
I'm
glad
I'm,
glad
I'm
here,
I'm
glad
we're.
Finally,
here
this
is.
This
is
an
exciting
time
for
the
city
of
Laredo,
and
it's
an
exciting
time
for
me
to
have
this
opportunity
to
pretend
to
you
and
and
lay
out
what
I
believe
to
be
the
credentials
and
individual
you're.
C
Looking
for
to
be
your
next
city
manager,
with
that
I'm
going
to
jump
right
into
the
presentation,
what
I've
done
with
this
presentation
as
I,
followed
I
tried
to
follow
as
closely
as
I.
Could
a
nine
I
pulled
some
of
the
items
together,
but
but
I
call
it
the
email
that
I
received
in
terms
of
the
information
you
are
looking
for
in
the
things
that
you
wanted
to
hear
from
me
relevant
to
certain
topics,
the
first
one
was
okay,
now
I
need
the
air
and
arrow
keys.
Thank
you.
That's
what
I
needed.
C
The
the
first
item
on
there
was
education.
There's
there's
no
mystery
I'm
a
Clemson
graduate
anybody
that
has
been
around
me
for
the
last
couple
of
years
knows
that
anybody
within
a
mile
radius
of
over
the
last
four
or
five
years
knows
that
a
TA
graduate
did
my
degree
in
urban
planning.
There
studied
in
Europe
first
semester
while
I
was
there
I
studied
re
design
in
architecture
in
Genoa
Italy
during
my
tenure
there,
so
that
opportunity
presented
itself.
C
My
last
semester
and
I
took
advantage
of
that,
and
that
started
my
travels
before
that
I
was
at
the
University
of
South.
Alabama
I
grew
up
at
the
redneck
Riviera.
That's
what
I
call
it
little
town
called
Fairhope
on
the
on
Mobile
Bay
runs
directly
on
the
Mobile
Bay,
and
it's
about
30
or
40
minutes
from
Gulf
Shores.
C
Now
it's
closer
to
an
hour's
drive,
but
when
I
was
a
kid
you
could
get
there
in
about
25
minutes
the
and
that
degree
is
in
geography
and
then
the
graduate
degrees
in
urban
planning
also
went
to
the
Harvard.
School
became
Cambridge,
and
that
was
done.
While
I
was
here
at
the
city
of
Laredo,
serving
as
your
planning
director.
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The
first
topic
that
y'all
had
on
the
points
of
interest
is
we
have
by
national
relations
and
I,
couldn't
help
but
drop
my
Peace
Corps
experience
in
here
it
just
it
just
seemed
to
be
a
first-time
fit.
That
is
where
my
school,
also
when
I
was
in
Italy
and
going
throughout
Europe
during
that
semester,
but
it
was
the
Peace
Corps
where.
C
International
experience
really
truly
an
international
experience
and
Osen
I
was
one
of
the
last
generation
of
Peace
Corps
volunteers
that
lived
without
communication.
I.
Remember
a
letter
to
my
dad.
I
asked
him
who
won
the
sugar
ball.
He
wrote
me
back
and
said
he
didn't.
Remember:
I
wrote
about
it.
If
you
don't
tell
me,
I
can't
find
out
so
I
got
that
letter
back
from
my
dad,
but
anyway
the
that
Peace
Corps.
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C
C
C
C
That's
and
one
of
the
big
things
that
we
were
very
keen
on
as
we
got
into
the
design
of
that
facility,
was
how
to
queue
that
traffic
and
that's
why
you
see
that
big
circuitous
now
getting
a
getting
southbound
is
a
much
easier
now
than
it
used
to
be,
but
the
that
queue
that
all
that
queueing
name
was
set
to
address.
What
we
were
seeing
on
I-35
and.
C
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
you're
gonna
you're
gonna,
hear
me
say
this
in
a
muck
in
a
moment
as
well,
our
industry,
partners
and,
and
our
most
particularly
the
trade
in
us,
or
we
know
that
we
are
in
a
preeminent
position
as
far
as
our
trade
goes.
You're
gonna
see
that
on
another
side,
that's
part
of
our
mission
state
and
that
mobility
and
the
mobility
of
those
goods
is
key
to
our
life.
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C
C
The
biggest
threat
to
local
government
is
occurs
when
our
Texas
legislators
in
session
realize
that,
but
that
is
our
one
of
our
greatest
threats
and
and
this
past
session
we
were
under
attack
as
municipalities.
There's
no
other
way
to
put
it
and
they
acknowledge
those
that
were
attacking
municipality
said
we're
attacking
us
pallies.
They
made
no
bones
about
it
and
they
had
a
very
unique
disposition.
C
If
you
look
at
the
general
disposition
of
how
government
should
be,
it
was
because
people
that
were
most
so
far
right,
they
actually
were
left
it's
kind
of
hot,
but
they
had
a
Goldilocks
and
three
bears
kind
of
scenario.
You've
got
fed
federal
government
too
big
local
government,
too
small
state
government
just
and
that's
what
they
ran.
We
ran
into
it
the
state
this
last
time
and
they
did
everything
they
could
to
municipalities
and
its
abilities
to
provide
services
to
communities
to
the
people
that
live
in
the
communities
hampered.
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C
That's
one
of
your
biggest
challenges
coming
up.
Another
point
now,
I
want
to
talk
about
that
bordering
corridor.
There
was
a
legislative
when
one
authorization
bill
provided
for
borders
and
corridors
in
that
there
was
not
much
money
for
for
borders.
Even
though
we
got
one
of
the
connectors
that
connect
I,
35
to
loop
20
and
over
to
the
bridge.
We
got
one
connector
in
that
first
in
that
authorization
bill,
but.
C
Bill
that
we
may
hate
we
pulled
out
that
border
from
the
corridors,
because
all
that
border
corridor
money,
a
lot
of
it,
went
to
Tennessee.
Well,
no
one
knows
what
happens
in
Tennessee,
but
anyway
they
got
a
big
jump
in
that
money.
So
we
were
able
to
pull
out
the
borders,
get
some
formula
locked
into
that
relevant
to
the
amount
of
Commerce
from
the
truck
traffic
or
traffic
crossing
the
borders
and
that
dictated
how
much
federal
money
came
to
a
state.
C
Well
then,
the
state
both
went
through
the
prop
8,
very
short
process,
because
I
was
in
the
meeting
a
very
short
process
of
deciding
okay.
How
are
we
going
to
delegate
that
across
the
state
because
they
could
spin
it
any
way
they
wanted
to?
They
could
have
spent
that
for
borders
and
border
money.
They
could
have
spent
it
in
love
if
they
wanted
to.
There
was
no
mechanism
in
place
to
regulate
where
the
state
sent
the
feds
just
sent
to
us.
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D
C
That
and
the
other
and
I
just
looked
at
on
point
blank
said
how
many
of
you
went
to
Washington
to
make
sure
that
we
got
this
money
in
this
state.
There
was
a
long
pause
and
then
I
intercede,
another
pulse
and
I
said.
Well,
then
we
should
use
the
exact
same
formula
for
the
districts
that
the
feds
have
assigned
to
the
states.
So
we
used
that
same.
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C
Our
live
might
be
two
elements
that
we
might
not
think
of
quite
as
readily
in
this
infrastructure,
but
given
the
recent
issues
that
we've
had
with
water
boil
that
water
issue
is
suddenly
something
that
is
on
the
forefront
the
one
of
the
unique
things
about
my
experience
since
I
left,
the
radio
was
the
city
of
Klein.
You
would.
C
Very
small
city,
but
we
were
a
full-service
municipality.
We
had
a
water
plant,
we
have
superplex
and
we
had
full
distribution
on
all
of
that.
A
lot
of
small
communities
in
this
in
this
state
do
not
have
that.
The
client
was
unique
in
that
respect,
so
so
one
of
the
things
that
so
when
I'm
talking
to
Mia
or
somebody
in
our
utilities
partner
and
we're
talking
about
turbidity
I,
know
exactly
what
he's
talking
about
when
he's
talking
about
residuals.
I
know
exactly
what
he
was
talking
about.
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C
With
a
lot
of
the
things
that
happen
in
the
water
and
wastewater
treatment
processes,
I
know
what
it
is.
What
suddenly
your
sewer
plant
has
is
getting
flooded
and
you've
got
water
coming
in
from
everywhere,
and
you
can't
treat
I
know
what
it
is
that
you
have
to
do.
Well,
you've
got
so
much
water,
you
can't
treat
it
and
the
steps
in
that
and
the
process
is
involved
in
notification
of
teeth.
That's
easy,
cute,
that's
the
unique
part!
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E
C
Growth
continues:
we
have
to
keep
our
drainage
going
roads,
Planes,
Trains,
automobiles,
bikes
and
pedestrians.
These
are
all
things
that
that
we
need
to
be
thankful.
Thinking
of
as
we
build
out
our
city
and
in
particular,
when
I
was
on
the
MPO
and
y'all
know.
I
was
the
director
of
the
MPO
as
well
just
about
every
project
that
we
did
was
designed
for
that
trade
industry,
but
we
also
spent.
C
Money
on
local
streets
and
we
were
able
to
do
that
through
that
formula
money
that
I
just
mentioned
those
industrial
streets
are
not
on
system
they're
off
system,
but
we
were
able
to
spend
that
money
off
system,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
do
is
that
we
have
to.
We
have
to
fund
the
maintenance
of
our
existing
infrastructure.
C
It's
it's
a
must
it's
not
a.
What
do
we
get?
There's
not
the
end
game
as
we
must
and
we
must
find
a
way
and
I'm
gonna
go
into
a
little
bit
of
the
way.
I'd
look
to
do
it
while
I
was
in
room
in
the
city
of
Corpus,
Christi
and
I'll.
Go
over
that
towards
the
end
of
this
presentation,
what
we
did
there
and
then
we
need
to
adopt
policies
and
ordinance
that
support
these
different
levels.
Yeah,
you
can't
say
we
want
buy
pads
and
then
not
develop
policies
and
ordinances
to
create
bypass.
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C
And-
and
that's
most
evident,
though,
in
our
vision
statement
ensuring
the
prosperity
of
the
community
by
maximizing
Laredos
preeminent
position,
that's
the
largest
element
rate
hub
of
the
Americas.
This
is
right
off
the
internet.
Now
there
is
a
there's,
a
little
story
on
that
mission
and
I.
Don't
know
that
anybody
in
the
room
there's
a
couple
of
people
in
the
room
that
might
have
been
in
this
meeting.
We
had
our
meeting
down
at
the
Community
College.
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C
The
end
of
the
day
at
our
retreat
and
and
we've
got
a
mission
state,
went
up
on
the
board
and
Raphael
says
he
draft
a
mission
statement.
Now
you've
got
to
do
it
now,
so
this
is
actually
what
I
drafted
I
gave
it
to
Raphael.
Raphael
read
it
out,
went
up
on
the
board
and
it
came
out
just
like
that
and
I
remember
Jaime
flawed
as
he
was
just
sitting
there
and
he
was
just
going
position.
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C
But
but
I'm
gonna
break
it
down
for
you.
What
you
see
here
is
a
couple
of
different
things.
You
see
the
city
manager
having
direct
reports,
and
this
is
something
that
I
feel
strongly
about
to
some
degree.
The
C
manager
needs
to
have
direct
reports
now
what
they
look
like
and
how
that
is
structured
really
depends
on
the
a
couple
of
several
factors,
particularly
the
team.
C
That's
at
handy's,
but
I
think
it's
kind
of
like
a
the
head
coach
for
an
NFL
that
does
the
play
college
or
is
intimately
involved
in
the
play
car
and
it's
a
very
similar
scenario.
You
have
to
take
on
some
of
those
responsibilities
and
some
of
those
direct
reports,
because
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
need
to
get
done
in
your
organization.
C
One
of
the
ways
I
like
to
break
down
an
organization
is
by
internal
services
and
external
services,
your
internal
services
of
your
IT,
to
run
your
HR
team,
your
budget,
your
finance,
all
of
those
are
internal
service
activities,
you're
purchasing
internal
services,
but
then
you've
got
your
external
services.
You've
got
your
planning
department.
You've
got
your
building
departments.
You've
got
all
of
these
people
that
are
involved
in
an
external
way
and
breaking
it
down
in
those
those
types
of
categories
are
key,
and
then
you
have
a
utilities
price.
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C
He
took
those
on
that
hey
great
job
and
we
moved
forward
with
a
lot
of
different
stuff
during
that
time
period
during
that
one
year,
transportation,
trade,
again
the
MPO-
and
this
is
a
comment
I
made
earlier
just
about
every
project.
Every
major
transportation
project
focused
on
moving
Goods,
it's
just
something
we
can
use.
C
D
E
C
Us
much
help
because
it
was
just
too
far
out.
There
was
a
lot
of
it
was
very
cumbersome
to
get
there
and
that's
why
we
ended
up
with
the
bridge
for
still
got
empties
I
suppose
coming
across
there
right,
there's
still
the
port
there.
So
it's
that's
not
coming
across,
but
the
empties
is
where
we
were
using
it
a
few
years
ago.
C
Were
chasing
there
was
a
Union
Pacific
went
out
and
got
Presidential
Permit
that
we
were
permanent.
They
had
got
that
concession
for
the
for
the
Mexican
rail.
Then
there
was,
there
would
have
been
a
rail
bridge,
another
part
of
the
rates
they
would
have
just
feared
all
across
the
mines.
Road
ain't
gone
ain't
gone
out
across
the
think
they
got
a
Presidential
Permit
to
do
that.
They
did
not
get
that
concession
though.
But
the
point
is
the
rail
industry,
CEO
and
our
transportation
industry
is.
C
C
Health
crisis
and
we
know
that
Laredos
not
unique
to
across
the
country
now
I
might
outlive
my
children
kind
of
thing.
It
is
what's
going
on
with
this
health
crisis
and
the
what
are.
Is
there
a
way
to
deal
with
that
and
is
there
a
way
to
deal
with
effectively
and
I?
Don't
know
that
it's
it!
There's
people
out
there
they're
gathering
data.
There's
people
out
there
that
they've
got
some
ideas,
but
I've
never
seen
something
that
I
mapped
out
here
in
this
bullet
point
in
terms
of
access
to
healthy.
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C
F
A
C
Right
so
the
next
thing
the
next
slide
is
on
ethics
and
I've
got
two
code
of
ethics.
That
I
live
by.
I've
got
my
AIC
code,
a
bit
AICP
code
of
ethics
and
I've
got
my
TCM
a
code
of
ethics,
but
the
real
question
is
what
makes
up
an
ethical
person
and
Webster
defines
it
as
a
person
who
operates
within
a
system
of
moral
principles
or
values.
That
is
your
brother.
That's
your
brother!
That's
how
you
do
business
David,
here's
some
some
additional
thoughts!
C
C
You
might
have
seen
this
in
my
and
some
of
their
things
that
I
wrote,
but
there's
a
couple
government
entities
typically
do.
Is
they
punish,
though
you're
greater
extent,
the
no
reward
successes
and
this
will
take
a
managerial
and
leadership
shift,
because
we
need
to
focus
on
professional
development,
training
and
personnel
development.
We
need
to
develop
a
culture
of
public
service
and
the
culture
of
public
services
is
customer
service
versus
public
service.
In
my
estimation,
are
two
different
things
that
the
bar
is
much
higher
for
concerns
customer
service.
C
D
C
C
Look
just
get
one
nice
good
one
in
my
hand,
okay,
Collective,
Bargaining,
I'm
CL,
are
certified
sale,
RP,
certified,
I,
suspect
Christie
could
outline
to
you
what
that
is.
It's
not
an
easy
bar
to
get
over
core
curriculum.
Our
agreement,
I
was
on
that
negotiation
team,
which
we
just
wrapped
up
and
very
successfully
wrapped
it
up.
The
next
one
is
fiscal
responsibility
and
budget
again
send
a
bill
to
our
biggest
challenge.
You've
got
a
3.5
cap.
What
are
we
gonna
do?
Are
we
gonna
acquiesce
to
go
into
election
or
not?
C
Budgets
got
to
be
aligned
to
achieve
objectives,
starting
to
realize
goals,
so
we've
got
AB
goal
and
we've
gotta
have
objectives,
and
that's
how
that
budget
should
structure
measurement
of
track
tracking
of
that
budget
and
incentives.
Critical,
that's
primary
task.
I
would
expect
of
an
ACM
I
expect
an
ACM
to
be
tracking
that,
with
his
departments
of
her
departments,
to
make
sure
that
they're
meeting
those
budget
requirements
piece
those
things
that
we
laid
out
budget.
We
need
to.
C
We
need
to
set
a
vision
Council
what
we
need
to
do
as
a
staff
is
set
out
and
the
course
for
achieving
sustainable
development.
Actually
Laredos
got
a
pretty
good,
pretty
good
record
of
how
you
do
that
you
grow
like
a
mushroom,
believe
it
or
not.
They're
municipalities
and
I
live
in
one
right
now,
Corpus
Christi,
it's
a
long
way
between
end
points
from
the
island
to
the
other
part
of
town
can
take
you
about
an
hour,
and
the
reason
it
does
is
because
they
were
so
spread
out.
A
C
A
A
Don't
we
go
ahead
and
I
think
I
think
the
questions
you'll
be
able
to
play.
In
fact,
let's
not
be
able
to
come
back
into
crystals
it's
we
have.
We
have
a
total
of
16
topics,
all
of
which
you
know
what
is
included
in
your
presentation
as
well.
So
each
of
us
will
have
a
good
opportunity
to
present
each
one
of
those
topics
all
right.
What's
you?
Okay?
Maybe
that's
what
you
can
elaborate
more
if
you
wish.
Okay
back
to
your
presentation,
yeah
and
I
feel
lucky
what
I
do.
A
A
My
areas
of
is
in
financial
relations
international
issues.
So
you
look
at
your
presentation,
but
can
you
give
a
little
bit
more
specific
in
regards
to
citing
examples
in
your
work
experience
where
you've
had
to
deal
with
government
or
private
officials
from
other
countries
which
may
have
led
to
enhancing
the
economic
won't
be
another
community
I?
Think
more
specifically,
have
you
share
with
the
committee?
The
your
experiences
would
tell
related
private
sector
individuals
from
Mexico
II.
C
But
to
say
that
I
was
the
lead
on
those
meetings
is,
is
to
not
be
accurate.
Many
of
those
meetings,
like
you
know,
once
you
get
into
your
Mexican
counterparts
in
Spanish.
That's
not
my
first
language,
not
even
sure
it's
my
second
but
the,
but
there
is
I
was
in
those
meetings
and
in
those
discussions
as
we
worked
out,
the
world
trade
bridge
and
the
Presidential
Permit
was
in
those
discussions
and
meetings,
as
we
were
working
on
another
Presidential
Permit
application
down
in
South
Laredo,
but
to
say
that
I
was
the
lead
on
those.
A
Three,
that
would
click
corpus
at
Corpus,
Christi
or
they've,
come
of
the
other
cities
as
well,
and
we
don't
use
someone
on
the
video
with
your
role
here
in
Laredo,
but
if
you're
another
in
other
cities
at
us,
where
you've
actually
served
or
worked
at
any
other
experiences.
The
usual
Corpus
Christi
is
very
far
from
the
border,
both
so
in
nearly
every
respect
and
they.
C
B
G
C
C
C
I'm
a
little
bit
I
think
what
you've
got
is
you've
got
different
things
that
influence
those
different
communities.
Okay.
Now,
if
you
look
at
Corpus
one
of
the
things
that's
driving
in
Corpus
right
now
is
the
industries
coming
in
and,
and
they
are,
energy
related
industries
got
Exxon
coming
in.
You
got
a
steel
plant
coming
in.
So
the
question,
then,
is:
how
are
we
competing
with
these
other
communities
to
attract
true
industry?
We
focused
on
transportation,
but
do
we
have
an?
E
C
In
San,
Antonio
was
one
of
the
those
booming
factors
and
then
it
just
started
things
really
started
blossoming
and
but
we
have
to
have
I
think
an
answer
to
how
it
interrelates,
with
with
me
as
a
city
manager
and
with
our
organization,
we
have
to
have
that
to
embrace
the
growth
of
emperium,
we
need
to
figure
out
his
organization,
what
we're
doing
to
restrict
it.
What
are
we
doing
to
limit
that
growth
and
then
its
community?
We
need
to
take
some
ownership.
Okay,
what
are
we
doing.
G
C
C
D
D
C
C
C
H
C
H
Could
tell
me
trailer
against
here
lucrative
one
experiencia
intricacy
own
equal
participant
in
a
loop
twining
in
a
water
rage,
sin
embargo,
sus,
proyectos,
SEO,
reverse
house
for
mucho
someone,
the
tráfico
de
look
20
ure
basado
is
traffic
of
Water
Bridge
Road
asado,
a
tenemos
problemas
de
tráfico
in
Majuro
templemir,
the
traffic
in
in
my
13
que
podrÃa
stew,
acero
qué,
piensas,
para
poder!
No
cigar
creo
que
a
man
shot:
enemas
tráfico
teletran,
a
Cinco
de
San
Antonio
Akhila,
Corpus,
Christi,
Jose
de
las
aguas,
or
image
roll
myself
every
night,
yes
and
theme
anyway.
This.
A
E
C
Roadways
in
the
off
system
roadways-
the
roadways
you
identified
are
the
on
system,
road
ones,
they're
the
roadways
either
maintained
and
operated
by
the
federal
or
state,
typically
just
refer
them
to
a
state
state
maintained
roadways
and
the
the
allocation
for
those
roadways
comes
from
the
state.
The
state
has
different
funding
categories,
all
of
that
channels
through
the
MPL
now.
B
D
B
C
C
To
add
Lane
miles
is
you're,
seeing
great
separations
and
interface
control
onto
those
roadways
and
that's
a
step.
One
step
two
is
going
to
be
again
working
through
your
district
office,
working
through
the
MPO
to
identify
projects
that
increase
reduce
travel
time.
So
that's
what
your
tongue
on
the
congestion
increase,
travel
time.
You
want
the
decrease
travel
time.
So
what
has
to
happen
there
is
the
state's
gonna
have
to
try
figures
on
that
bottom
line
and
we're.
C
To
take
that
initiative
to
them,
what
we
want
to
see
happen
on
those
courtrooms
that
is
historically
how
it
has
happened,
that's
how
we
got
Luke
20
period,
Luke,
Luke
20
at
one
time
was
a
line
on
the
map.
Okay
and
then
it
was
done,
and
it
was
all
done
in
our
initiative.
There
were
talks
at
one
time
a
but
of
an
out
early,
but
that
one
actually
went
around
the
lake
and
may
not
help
those
congestion
issues
on
the
inside
of
the
lake,
so
the
those
on
system,
roadways.
What
you
have
to
do
is.
C
I
Thank
you
very
much
for
Sherman
Keith
good
morning,
thanks
for
being
here.
Thank
you
just
to
bring
up
the
yeah
I'm,
the
seal
gateway
community
health
center.
A
federally
qualified
health
plans
very
similar
to
I
mean
stuff
community
health
center
or
a
Coastal
Bend
Community
Health
Center,
comprised
as
you
might
well
imagine,
and
no
3035
generators
population
is
uninsured,
meaning,
blacks
to
insurance,
no
Medicare,
no
Medicaid,
no
private
insurance.
What,
in
your
experience,
have
have
you
done
to
help
the
uninsured
population?
I
Just
a
follow-up
question:
Pam
yeah
in
the
same
vein,
I
Keith:
we
have
one
of
the
state's
highest
health,
professional
shortage
area,
scores,
meaning
we
don't
have
enough
health
professionals
or
physicians.
If
you
make
any
of
your
past
experiences,
have
you
helped
in
any
of
the
recruitment
of
health
care
professionals
to
the
community
in
any
form
or
fashion?
Well,.
C
They
get
money.
Those
monies
went
into
a
lot
of
those
public
improvements
that
went
around
there.
I
was
involved
in
the
EBA
project
that
it
looked
like
a
road
project
and
that's
Bustamante
Bustamante
was
is
it
was
a
road
project,
but
it
was
what
was
under
that
road
that
made
it
an
EDA
project.
We
put
a
big
water
line
in
there
to
provide
that
service
to
that
hospital.
When
Mercy
Merce,
the
Sisters
of
Mercy,
were
building
that
hospital
that
the
roadway
and
the
accessibility
was
critical,
but
that
water
line
was
the
key
to
making.
A
J
Which
is
which
I
was
anyway,
which
was
a
nice
distinction
and
an
important
distinction.
But
what
I'd
like
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
you
and
what
your
guiding
principles
are
as
a
pertain
to
your
morals
and,
most
importantly,
your
ethics,
and
that
there
is
a
distinction
between
morals
and
ethics.
J
C
Get
to
but
who
I
am
and
what
I
am
first
before
I'm.
Anything
else
is
on
the
Christian,
okay
and
really
no
matter
what
happens.
I
am
a
providential
Christian,
so
the
whatever,
whatever
I,
do
I
work
at
it
with
all
my
heart.
This
is
straight
out
of
Colossians
3:23
through
24
as
working
for
the
Lord,
so
that
that
changes.
C
C
D
A
F
My
question
is
regarding
now
economic
development.
We
have
an
organization
in
Laredo
called
the
Loretto
Economic
Development
Corporation,
formerly
known
as
the
lvf.
It
consists
of
board
members
who
have
lost
knowledge
in
an
expertise,
experience
and
above
all,
success.
They
come
from
various
segments
of
our
local
business
community,
a
banking
and
finance
commercial
development,
commercial,
real
estate,
international
trade,
war,
housing,
logistics,
rail
and
transportation,
medical
services,
manufacturing
oil
and
gas
and
so
forth.
F
I
feel
that
the
city
of
Laredo
could
do
a
better
job
in
utilizing
the
services
of
organizations
like
that,
whether
it
be
the
LD
effort
led
C
or
other
groups
to
help
us.
You
know
as
we
as
we
seek.
You
know:
prosperity
and
economic
development
for
this
city.
In
your
present
or
past
roles.
Have
you
work
closely
with
organizations
such
as
the
LED
see?
What
are
your
thoughts
about
these
types
of
organizations
and
as
an
accelerator
city
manager?
C
D
C
Had
very
limited
resources,
but
the
danger
with
a
type
B
is
that
a
type
B
can
come
become
a
community
cookie
jar
because
it
is
so
liberal
in
its
utilization.
You
can
use
it
for
almost
anything,
and
so
it's
it
can
be
very
dangerous,
and
the
history
of
it
had
been
that
if
one
particular
property
owner
wanted
to
put
up
a
sign,
they
came
in
and
made
an
application
to
the
EVC
and
the
EBC
paid
for
their
song.
That's
the
kind
of
thing!
That's
really
not
helpful!
D
C
The
city
of
Corpus
Christi,
it
is
the
primary
contributor
to
the
EDC
Economic
Development
Corporation
in
Corpus
Christi,
and
there
are
other
contributors
to
that.
Nueces
County
puts
money
in
San,
Patricio
puts
money
in
a
couple
than
the
other
communities
across
the
bay
or
then
they
put
a
little
bit
of
money
in.
But
what
that
particular
institution,
the
EDC,
because
we
primarily
funded
out
of
our
type
a
is
it
is
they
serve
as
the
clearinghouse
for
applications
coming
in
to
type
A
or
type
beat,
but
he
also
are
actively
recruited.
It's
a
result
of
that.
C
C
And
but
but
that's
what
I'm
saying
is
that
they
are
the
Clearing
House.
So
when,
let's
say
there
is
a
type,
a
project,
the
EDC
reviews
that
the
EDC
takes
it
by
the
board,
then
the
EDC
makes
a
recommendation
to
the
type
a
board
and
then
the
type
a
board
either
approves
inner
does
not
approve
it.
Then
it
goes
to
City
Council.
All
of
these
type
A
and
type
B
monies.
Ultimately,
the
City
Council
is
the
fiscal
agent.
So
it
goes
through
this
vetting
process
before
it
gets
to
the
City
Council
for
funding.
C
Now
the
City
Council,
conversely,
can't
dictate
to
the
type
a
or
the
type
B.
What
they're
going
to
do
all
they
have
veto
Authority
and
then
nothing
can
get
done,
but
there
cannot
just
come
up
in
and
say
you
go
you
look
at
that
project.
You
find
that
project
like
that's,
not
the
whole
thing,
and
they
understand
that.
So
it's
when
you've
got
these
this
process
in
place
that
suddenly
you're
building
that
interrelationship
of
working
towards
common
goals
does.
E
D
K
Sure
some
would
you
turn
to
your
slide
on
public
safety
and
collective
bargaining.
My
question
for
my
topic
is
specifically
that
would
you
share
with
us
your
experience
in
managing
police
and
fire
departments,
unions
PACs
both
non
civil
service
and
civil
service
entities,
as
well
as
your
experience
in
collective
bargaining,
the.
C
D
E
C
Can
be
the
financial
is
where
the
rubber
is
famous,
so
you
work
through
those
first
and
you
do
kind
of
like
letters
of
agreement,
you
got
okay,
we
breathe
it,
that's
where
we're
going
so
you
do
that
process
and
then
you
come
to
you
for
the
financial.
Once
you
get
to
your
financial
sign,
you
need
to
know
as
a
City
Council,
the
City
Council
will
provide
some
input
to
staff
and
that's
typically
done
an
executive
session
make
presentations
and
they
start
making
some
levels
of
decision
on
where
out
of
the
caps
on
this
is.
C
This
is
this
is
where
that
money
involved?
And
so
then
you
get
your
proposing
me
from
the
other
collective
bargaining
thing
of
the,
and
then
you
take
that
and
you
do
a
call
stop,
and
that
is
key
is
really
knowing
how
to
cost
out
the
contract.
And
then
you
project
that
out
for
the
life
of
the
contract,
I
say:
okay,
this
is
gonna,
be
a
20
million
dollar
contract
all
right.
This
is
gonna,
be
a
30
million.
C
K
C
That's
a
perfectly
valid
question:
there's
what
you
do
is
you
go?
You
go
through
a
course
in
curriculum
and,
and
you
take
a
test,
a
certification
test.
That's
a
certification
is
always
functional
test,
but
what
you're
being
tested
on
is
your
understanding
of
collective
bargaining.
What
does
impasse
me?
When
do
you
reach
impasse?
All
of
these
kind
of
words
and
and
how
collective
bargaining
occurs,
and
that's
that's.
C
L
Prioritizing
things
like
multifamily
developments,
walkable
livable
urban
spaces,
vibrant
greens
faces
and
requiring
an
intense
dialogue
and
discussion
among
partners,
all
of
which
requires
government
buy-in
and
some
successful
examples
being
Oak
Cliff
and
Dallas
the
wire
loop,
it
Avenida
Association
in
San
Antonio
among
others,
and
you
had
interesting
thoughts
about
this
in
your
questionnaire
question
number
two
about
this.
So
the
two
questions
are
I
wanted
to
probe
more
your
philosophy
around
sustainable
growth
or
smart
growth
and
development,
and
giving
us
some
concrete,
specific
experiences
that
you
have
around
that
as
well.
C
Kill
these
Tod
DoD's
tMI's
transit-oriented
developments,
you
let
that
off
area.
When
we
went
down
your
list
of
smart
growth
stuff.
The
you
know.
Most
of
my
experience
has
been
here
in
Laredo
ACM
and
the
city
manager
interim
period
in
the
city
of
Corpus.
Christi
was
not
didn't.
Take
deep
dives
into
the.
D
C
A
community
we've
not
done
those
transit-oriented
developments,
we've
not
focused
on
we've,
not
focused
on
creating
nucleus
of
activities
and
and
in
large
part,
because
we've
been,
we
wait
on
the
developers
to
come
to
us
and
someone
might
would
say
well.
A
developer
has
never
come
to
us
with
this
proposal
for
us
to
get
out
of
the
way
and
see
it
happen.
We
not
had
that
and
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
again
going
back
to
this
cooperative
process
to
help
processes,
I
think.
C
A
planning
team
over
there,
you
certainly
did
when
I
was
there.
That
would
be
very
keen
on
that,
but
we
didn't
go
out
and
try
to
make
that
happen
with
a
developer.
We
didn't
go
out
and
tell
the
developer.
Hey.
Do
this
do
this?
Do
this?
Try
this
try
this!
Let's
do
this!
We
need
to
create
these
nuclei
of
activities.
C
C
With
those
those
incentives
would
be
in
the
development
processes,
we've
got
a
pretty
nifty
PUD
project,
which
is
as
soon
as
you
put
a
PUD
on
the
table.
It's
almost
no-holds-barred
you're
negotiating
everything
from
street
signs
to
sidewalks
to
densities,
to
mixed-use
development.
There's
no
holds
barred
in
our
PUD
ordinance
unless
they've
changed
it
since
I've
been
gone,
but
that's
again
that
developer
has
never
come
in
and
said:
hey
I
want
to
do
a
PUD.
That
looks
like
giving
your
examples
Thanks.
This
is
what
I've
seen
in
Austin.
C
This
is
what
I've
seen
the
San
Antonio,
or
this
is
what
I've
seen
in
UC
area
I
want
to
create
that
here,
but
as
a
city
manager,
I
would
be
very
excited
to
see
this
kind
of
development
in
our
community,
because
we've
had
a
decent
policy
that
that
holding
that
sprawl
in
it
was
inadvertent.
Really
we
just
did
it
with
a
club
to
be
frightened,
hope
you
said
we're
not
gonna.
Let
you
we're
not
gonna.
Let
you
we're
not
gonna.
D
D
C
You
petition
for
annexation
and
so
that
way
that
the
city
did
not
leave
out
the
only
place
you
really
see
a
leap
out
is
with
Unitec.
The
rest
has
been
much
more
mushroomed,
so
the
it's
been
a
good
policy.
From
that
standpoint
and
and
when
Smart
Growth
first
started,
the
first
words
of
smart
growth
was
don't
grow
beyond
your
ability
to
provide
services.
That
was
the
cornerstone
of
smart
growth.
L
Follow-Up
question
to
that.
Mr.
chairman
I'm,
Sookie
I,
think
strategies
of
the
past
and
Laredo
have
been
in
a
very
top-down
kind
of
fashion
and
so
would
have
been
concrete
examples.
Your
experiences
you've
had
where
you've
really
tried
to
have
these
intense
discussions
or
engagement
within
the
community
about
the
way
growth
happens,
either,
not
necessarily
for
the
community
in
general,
but
maybe
certain
neighborhoods
or
specific
projects
to
get
all
of
their
buy-in
from
the
onset,
as
opposed
to
at
the
tail
end
of
everything.
Yeah.
C
Part
of
how
to
deal
with
flood
related
issues
and
but
applying
that
and
getting
a
holistic
approach
and
bringing
in
all
of
those
stakeholders.
That's
awesome,
that's
exactly
what
that's
the
only
way
you
get
your
community,
you
decide!
That's
the
only
play.
That's
the
only
way
to
really
be
able
to
decide
number
one
for
where
you
want
your
community
go
and
then
number
two
how
to
get
it
there.
It's
in
that
form
that
that
happens.
C
C
Identify
the
the
first
thing
you
do.
Is
you
identify
your
groups?
You
know
who
are
your
straight
hold
errs
out
there
and
who
are
the
people
you
can?
You
can
bring
in
to
start
engagement,
stakeholder
identification
at
number
one
then,
once
you've
passed
the
stakeholder
identification,
you
just
it's
just
a
straight
up
it.
You
know
it's
one
of
those
things
that
my
father
told
me
every
now
and
then
I'd
ask
him.
How
do
you
do
this
and
he
would
say
what
do
you
mean
how
you
do
it?
C
E
C
All
of
those
resources,
whether
it
be
male
or
public,
meeting
our
our
our
emails,
our
thanks
blasts
or
whatever
it
may
be,
your
Facebook
page,
whatever
that,
how
Twitter
all
of
those
things
you
see,
there's
still
a
group
on
population
out
there,
you're
not
gonna,
get,
and
that's
that's
the
one
you
you
just
it's
it's
that's
the
one,
that's
the
most
frustrating.
How
do
I
communicate
with
that
individual?
How
do
I
get
them
in
and
make
them
a
player
in
this
process,
and
everyone
needs
to
understand
that
it's
gonna
be
an
open
process.
C
Sometimes
what
can
happen
in
those
environments
is
that
people
are
highly
skeptical
of
the
again
we
go
back
to
motives.
We
go
back
to
the
ethic
side
of
it.
People
are-
and
this
happens
a
lot
thing
and
Cory
Christine
lund,
frankly,
very
skeptical
about.
Why
are
we
having
this
meeting?
Why
are
what
is
the
city's
motive,
the
city
as
an
entity?
What
is
their
motive?
There's
a
question
of
motive
in
it
and
you
know-
and
we.
C
M
Okay,
Keith,
you
know
that
you
know
has
one
of
the
top
five
School
District,
you
ISD,
you
have
my
obedient,
be
in
the
district.
You
have
the
early
colleges
now
since
you've
been
gone
and
we
actually
have
a
lot
of
early
colleges
within
our
different
high
schoolers
in
lis,
Deanna
USD.
We
have
LC
south
LC
north.
We
have
Tammy,
you
we
have
said
I
will
see.
We
have
harmony.
What
joint
project
have
you
participated
in
with
other
governmental
entities?
C
Okay,
I
switched
back
to
my
economic
development
slide,
and
that
is
one
of
the
key
elements
of
that
type.
A
type
a
has
funded
activities
at
the
Community
College
oriented
towards
the
industry
in
the
type
a
has
in
funded
classes.
The
mechanical
engineering
school
over
at
the
University
at
at
in
Corpus
Christi
and
direct
ties.
I
was
overseeing
those
things
as
they
were
coming
through
the
type,
a
and
processing
to
the
type
a
and
then
to
the
city
council
for
funding.
There's.
M
M
And
if
we
wait
till,
if
we
wait
till
they
get
out
of
high
school
to
get
to
the
University,
we
lost
a
lot
of
time
where
kids
in
come
graduate
from
high
school,
which
we're
concentrated
right
now
in
both
school
district
to
train
them.
So
during
the
workforce,
a
lot
faster
and
then
what's
in
the
workforce,
companies
are
looking
at
that
companies
look
at
what
can
I
work
for,
if
you
have
that,
so
we
have
the
opportunity
to
open
a
bigger,
bigger
industry
within
our
community.
One.
C
Taipei
is
projects
that
are
on
an
orient
towards
preparing
people
for
the
workplace
and
for
industry,
and
some
of
those
are
tech
related
they're,
not
on
all
university
related.
Some
of
them
are
tech
related
and
they
going
over
to
the
Community
College
as
well.
So
it's
it's
not
it's
not
just
rigid
into
the
mechanical
engineering
program
over
at
the
university
is
also
the
technical
activities
that
they
have
to
have,
and
these
are
good-paying
jobs.
E
E
C
Wondered
where
this
this
point
might
be
going
and
as
far
as
their
absolutely
has
to
be
everyone's
got
to
be
on.
In
other
words,
there
has
to
be
line
of
communication
and
be
on
board.
We
have
to
be
marching
to
the
same
tune
and
we've
got
to
be
going
in
the
same
direction
to
everything
you
described
there.
The
only
way
you
do
that
is
through
communication.
Communication
is
the
key.
There
has.
D
C
That
the
school
is
identified
and
that's
really
kind
of
where
the
rubber
meets
the
pavement
is
money.
Where
does
the
funding
come
from?
A
lot
of
people
can
think
of
programs
to
get
where
you're
going
and
what
you're
talking
about
and
what
can
the
school
districts
afford
it
and
if
they
can't
afford
it
to
what
degree
should
the
government
step
in
whether
it
be
municipal,
County
or
state
step
in
to
help
subsidize
that
to
make
that
happen,
that.
C
What
the
type
A
and
type
B
are
set
up
to
do
the,
but,
aside
from
that,
you've
also
got
the
activities
of
our
the
things
that
we
do
as
a
municipality.
So
how
do
you
make?
How
can
public
services
and
how
do
public
services
interface,
with
education
and
information,
dissemination
and
and
information
accessibility?
One
of
the
things
that
we
talk
about
quite
a
bit
and
it's
still
out
there
is
the
divide,
the
technological
device.
Some
people
have
access
to
the
technology
or
they
don't
exercise
access
to
it.
C
E
C
Do
that
through
our
library,
they've
got
the
resources
and
programming
they're
spearheading?
Some
of
that
you
do
that
through
parks
program
yeah,
our
parks
department
called
Christie,
does
a
lot
of
things
like
that,
where
they're
working
in
coordination
with
the
library,
that's
the
nature
stuff
going
on
there,
Public
Safety
with
direct
engagement.
One
of
the
things
that
I
would
really
want
to
see
is:
is
our
Police
Department
getting
much
more
involved
in
the
schools?
I,
don't
know
how
involved
they
are
right
now,
but
incline.
C
The
public
safety
through
direct
engagement
again
and
health
through
programming
information
dissemination,
health
department,
as
key
insist
they
they
also
have
a
very
nice
budget
for
getting
information
at
disseminated.
Information
and
part
of
that
can
be
part
of
that
public.
Expect
that
that
engagement
in
the
moment
that.
C
C
There's
a
yeah
one
of
the
things
my
knee-jerk
to
that
is
actually
where
some
of
the
people
were
in
Austin.
That
know
the
municipal
government
shouldn't
be
involved
in
hiring,
but
when
the
stake
up
is
so
aggressively
trying
to
erode
a
municipalities,
ability
and
aggressively,
there's
no
big
fans
there,
but
it
was
straight
aggression
aggressively,
erode
municipalities,
ability
to
provide
services
to
their
citizens.
C
C
And
so
having
someone
there
in
Austin
every
day,
with
their
nose
to
the
grindstone
are
in
Washington
with
their
nose
to
the
grindstone,
knowing
exactly
how
these
things
are
unfolding
and
being
able
to
alert
us
as
a
municipality
because
they
don't.
You
know
they
sometimes
they're
on
retainer,
sometimes
they're
by
the
hour,
but
they
really
don't
get
engaged
on
something
they
flag.
It
they
see
it
they
let
the
municipality
know.
This
is
my
experience
and
then
this
municipality
decides
whether
or
not
they.
C
Yeah
we've
got
to
get
engaged
on
that
one,
and
then
you
start
engaging
your
your
delegation
and
you
start
sometimes
sometimes
I
can
be
a
policy
issue.
Our
guy
is
on
the
ground,
may
not
know
what's
happening
at
HUD
or
may
not
know,
what's
happening
with
EPA
or
may
not
know,
what's
happening
with
TCEQ,
but
it's
these
guys
that
have
got
their
antennas
up,
they're
right
there
on
the
ground
and
they
make
you
aware
of
those
things.
And
then
you
decide
as
a
policymaker,
you
have
the
City
Council
arthas,
whoever
the
government
into
he.
C
Great
success
with
tear
marks
I
go
back
to
the
earmark
era
of
Transportation.
We
got
a
lot
of
those
earmarks
because
we
had
somebody
on
the
ground.
Make
that
happen.
If
we
wouldn't
have
got
Luke
20,
there
was
I
forget
the
exact.
Hopefully
you
know,
but
it
was.
It
was
north
of
north
of
eight
digits
to
get
the
loot
pushed
down
further
south
when
that
project
was
getting
earmarked
that
we
had
our
guy
on
the
spot.
C
C
Than
I've
seen
consultants
work
that
they're
not
doing
very
much
for
you.
You
know
they're
not
putting
their
finger
on
the
right
people
and
and
what
your
your
initiatives
are
fall
by
the
wayside,
because
you
hired
somebody
that
couldn't
push
the
right
buttons
I've
seen
that.
But
let
me
let
me
let
me
go
one
step
for
perfect
Rick
I.
Don't
I
have
not
seen
anybody.
Do
this
better
than
Lorado
Corpus
Christi
does.
B
C
C
Making
a
very
hard
push
to
increase
the
number
of
port
directors,
Airport
members
and
they
wanted
more
representation
on
the
port
board
and
and
the
city
of
Corpus
Christi
felt
very
much
inclined
to
go
to
Austin
to
prevent
that
from
happening
to
protect
the
interest
of
the
port,
but
they,
but
they
really
were
playing
catch-up
on
it.
It
was
a
I
say
playing
catch-up,
it
was
a
reactionary
mm-hmm
and
what
I've
seen
from
and
and
they
really
don't
operate
a
lot.
A
C
And
that
that
was
the
one
question
that
wasn't
hit
management
styles
wasn't
up
there
and
neither
was
leadership
and
and
I
felt
that
that
was
a
gaping
hole
in
terms
of
this
process.
What
Keith?
What
does
your
leadership?
Look
like?
What
does
it?
What
do
you
view
as
leadership?
I've
got
a
couple
of
points
on
leadership
on
this
side.
I
got
these
accomplishments
to
the
left.
I'll
come
back
to
those
at
some
point
in
time,
if
I
get
a
wrap-up
moment,
but
the
on
the
leadership.
C
These
are
just
some
quick
points,
and
these
are
these
are
coming
out
of
my
head.
Failing
is
you
can
fail,
you
can
succeed,
but
the
real
challenge
is
always
in
trying.
The
real
challenge
is
in
the
effort.
The
real
challenge
is
in
the
decision
to
to
go
forward
that
and
that's
where
the
risk
is.
If
someone
succeeds
in
everything
they
do
every
time
they
do
it,
they
never
took
a
single
risk.
Those
things
we're
gonna
succeed
anyway,
but
risk
by
definitions
as
tests
necessitates
a
a
level
of
an
opportunity
to
fail.
C
C
D
K
C
Really,
but
is
that
is
that
reality,
let's
take
a
look
at
the
reality
of
this
and
then
on
and
then
right
below
it
do
and,
and
we
reward
that
person
by
actually
giving
them
the
title
of
leader.
You
did
exactly
what
I
want
exactly
what
I
wanted,
exactly
how
one
you
do.
You
are
a
great
leader.
C
C
E
C
To
be
think
about
them
all
that
over
these
are
these
again
are
coming
out
of
my
head
a
little
bit.
I,
don't
think
a
leader
is
necessarily
a
pronoun.
It's
not
you're
a
leader.
Leadership
can
occur
anywhere,
anytime
and
and
really
does
we
just
don't
even
see
it
are
you
acknowledging
and
we've
got
people
in
the
field
and
utilities
that
are
out
there
in
the
field
and
they're,
making
decisions,
they're
back
and
they're
exercising
leadership
by
making
those
decisions?
E
C
When
you
ask
somebody
what
do
you
think
about
this?
Why
and
and
and
then
you
follow
that
question
with
telling
them
what
you
think
well,
there's
a
good
chance
if
you're
in
a
leadership
role
that
you're
gonna
get
that
answer
thrown
right
back
at
you,
and
so
you
have
to
create
an
environment
where
you're
willing
to
accept
the
creativity
of
others
and
in.
D
C
That's
my
expectation
of
Directors.
That's
my
expectation
of
my
ACMs,
not
that
I'm
looking
to
take
them
out
of
their
comfort
zone,
which
I
will
but
then
I
want
them
to
take
me
out
of
my
comfort
zone,
to
challenge
me
to
take
a
risk
and
get
and
give
me
real
good
reasons
for
doing
it,
because
I'm
like
no
no,
but
but
do
you
see
what
I'm,
saying
and
and
I
think
you're
getting
the
gist
of
that
and
and
one.
C
That
we
we
oftentimes
do
is
we
we
want
to
stay
in
that
comfort
zone,
even
as
we
what
a
leader
want
the
leaders.
May
they
suddenly
have
that
as
a
pronoun
instead
of
it's
not
leadership
anymore,
it's
just
leader
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
that
creativity
comes
out
of
it.
That
engagement
comes
out
of
it
and
it
is
a
constant
effort
to
push
to
not
lose
your
will
upon
others.
C
A
C
A
minute,
let
me
let
me
let
me
call
up
on
that.
I
still
got
some
points
on
that
we
had
a
couple
of
one
of
the
questions
in
the
questionnaire
knows.
1919-20
point
question:
one.
E
C
C
H
Hemos
visto
que
los
cuatro
pointed
neck
severe
no
solution:
I'm
mucho,
mucho
tiempo,
para
pasar,
por,
dos
quarter-finals,
consider
areas,
hacen
expansion,
a
kaoru's
Puentes
porec
reacción
de
un
puente
nuevo
y
cuánto
cuesta,
no
cuánto,
cuesta,
otro,
lado,
canola
quest.
They
are
gross
receive
into
Solero
no
more
engines.
A
C
D
C
An
absolute
answer
at
this
point
and
here's
why?
Because
I
don't
I
haven't
looked
at
the
data,
the
bridge
crossing
Davis
I
haven't
looked
at
the
cue
data.
What's
that?
How
long
has
it
taken
us
to
get
across
those
bridges
and
in
looking
at
that
data?
What
I
then
be
able
to
determine
whether
or
not
an
additional
lane
will
fix
it
more
pedestrian
space,
isolation
of
just
the
pedestrian
bridge
in
creation
of
a
new
bridge?
A
lot
of
those
things
would
come
into
that
that
decision
tree
and
one
of
the
things
that.
D
C
Would
come
in
there
is
that
that
pedestrian
bridge
concept,
just
a
pedestrian
bridge,
dude
lanes-
that's
been
talked
about
now
for
a
couple
of
decades
or
more.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
kind
of
things
that
have
to
get
engaged
in
that
and
then
locating
that
spot
that
location,
where,
where
do
we
put
that
bruising?
What's
that
breathing
tended
to
do
it
intended
to
get
to
get
southbound
or
northbound,
because
they
they
got,
they
put
ad
northbound
problems
in
Mexico
to
those
lines
over
there,
you
get
a
get
crosser
a
pretty
long.
C
C
There,
as
opposed
to
two
more
infrastructure-
those
are
the
kind
of
things
I
think
we
should
look
at
before
we
jump
into
a
free
project
and
we
need
to
know
the
bridge
project
is
the
most
expensive
project
and
amending
a
Presidential
Permit,
sometimes
can
be
easy,
sometimes
can
be
difficult.
We
went
through
an
amendment
process.
I
remember
the
process
was
consummated
right
after
I
left,
but
it
was
required
of
us
to
amend,
to
put
hazmat
our
bridge
number
four.
C
We
had
to
amend
that
Presidential
Permit
and
thanks
not
really
was
not
all
that
keen
on
that.
They
wanted
to
keep
that
as
matte
out
of
coming
open
la
mia,
and
that
was
was
a
field
that
had
to
get
plowed
I
left,
just
as
that
was
getting
getting
transitioned
on
and
was
getting
done,
but
that
was
there
yeah.
That
was
a
challenge
to
amend
that
Presidential
Permit,
because
other
agencies
were
not
in
support
of
that
without
other
activism.
C
That's
why
you
have
now
has
the
out
of
the
loop
Luke
21
designated
as
a
hazardous
cargo
routes,
because
of
the
amendment
to
the
Presidential
Permit
that
occurred
for
bridge
fall.
We
had
to
do
the
risk
assessment
and
doing
the
risk
assessment.
We
had
to
submit
that
get
that
squared
away
do
those
levels
in
those
level
and
what
you
do
is
you
take
a
mile
swap
over
the
roadway,
and
then
you
see
what
populations
and
commercial
areas
and
risk
to
the
population
is
in
those
areas
and
in
order
to
establish
that
route.
I
Okay,
I
want
to
expand
a
little
bit
on
my
community
health
question
because
I'm
not
sure
go
ahead.
Well,
one
approach
it
from
an
economic
development
point
of
maybe
I'm,
not
sure
that
you
maybe
understood
my
my
question.
Okay,
on
community
health,
you
are
aware
in
Corpus
Christi
you
have
several
large
hospitals.
You'll
have
Driscoll
Children's
Hospital
right,
a
very
large
pediatric
care
hospital
that
has
outpatient
clinics,
not
only
in
the
valley,
but
you
know
rate
Oh,
believe
it
or
not
that
they
have
five
clinics.
I
Here
you
have
a
large
trauma
center
trauma
to
Senate
memorial
party,
recall
correctly,
large
Hospital
on
and
crystal
Santa
Rosa
have
Christmas
up
there
on
Ocean,
Drive,
etc,
etc.
I'm
assuming
Corpus
Christi
has
low
health
department.
We
don't
have
a
Health
Department
and
all
that
has
created
become
alone.
You
create
those
different
services,
and
this.
I
Pediatric
shock
residency
component
right
all
that
things
that
need
doctors
and
creates
health
care
access
right
same
thing
with
you
trauma
level,
two
I'm
just
saying
you
know.
Could
we
have
some
of
that
here?
Eventually,
some
of
those
services
here
we're
tromelin
three
and
both
of
our
hospitals.
We
have
started
that
residency,
probably
or
not.
That's
trend!
You!
I
C
As
you
know,
spawn
just
did
a
reconstruction
over
now,
I
think
that's
what
you're,
referring
to
and
and
kind
of
the
tenor
of
that
question
is
how
how
deeply
was
the
city
involved
in
that
city
was
involved
again
very
similar
to
the
project
here
with
the
infrastructure
around
the
hospital?
That's
where
of
the
city
stepped
in
for
the
most
part
of
doing
reconstructions
on
the
roadways
around
the
hospital
getting
access
into
the
hospital
making.
It.
C
D
C
C
It
was
just
over
programmed
nobody
alte
nobody's.
It
was
funny
that
was
always
going
to
be
there,
but
those
are
the
kind
of
things
and
and
the
federal
a
ten-week
Anna
King
can
go
back
to
some
level
of
discussion
on
that
federal
legislative
side
as
those
monies
come
into
communities,
social
security
in
particular,
going
back
to
engaging
in
our
legislators
and
our
groups
there
too,
to
see
about
getting
those
resources
necessary
to
ensure
that
our
population
has
an
acceptable
ratio
of
physician
to
population.
Those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
we
could.
J
B
J
Question
has
deals
with
employee
and
labor
relations
and
you
kind
of
touched
on
it
with
your
management
style,
and
if
you
wanted
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
you
know
that
would
be
great,
but
I
want
to
particularly
speak
to
you
about
I'm
sure
you
know
about
the
instability
we've
had
in
the
recent
years,
where
we've
had
a
high
turnover
of
city
managers
and
I'd
like
to
know
how
you
would
address
improving
employee
morale.
How
would
you
motivate
your
employees.
D
C
This
paradigm
shift
is
exactly
one
of
what
what
in
line
with
your
question
there
if
you've
got
if
you
got
a
team
that
is
indifferent,
artists,
complacent
and
we
need
to
transition
that
team
Republic.
So
how
do
we
get
in
there?
First,
it
starts
at
the
top.
It
has
to
start
at
the
top.
Nobody
can
look
at
your
city
manager.
Nobody
can
look
at
your
in
assistant
city
managers.
Nobody
can
look
at
your
director
and
see
complacency.
They
can't
see
somebody
just
moving
along
just
in
the
in
the
flow
of
the
game.
B
E
C
Workshops
and
we
do
team
building.
We
do
a
lot
of
that
stuff
and
we'll
have
to
well
have
you.
You
will
have
to
read
apply,
but
first,
we'll
have
to
define.
We
will
need
to
define
who
we
are,
and
this
is
what
that
journey
will
look
like
you're
saying:
how
do
we
do
that?
This
is
what
that
journey
looks
like
we
define
and
we
constantly
redefine
the
culture
you
see
where
we
are
and
then
we
shift
from
it
to
a
public
servant.
Then.
C
Those
to
replace
you,
even
as
a
city
manager,
if
I'm
not
finding
my
replacement
on
faith-
and
that
applies
to
every
director
in
the
organization
at
the
assistant
director,
every
manager,
every
division
at
anyone
that
has
somebody
under
them
and
they're,
not
training,
someone
to
take
their
place,
their
training,
they're,
failing
them,
not
just
training
but
culturally
shifting
their
family
and
turning
them
into
public
services.
Being
a
motors
over
recruitments,
a
big
deal
we
need
to,
we
need
to
bring
in.
Thank
you.
C
We've
got
a
lot
of
people
in
this
or
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
this
election
that
are
very
committed
public
service.
I.
Don't
want
this
to
go
negative
here.
At
all,
they're
mean
the
team
is
loaded
with
people
that
love
this
community
and
love
this
organization
and
want
to
see
the
greatest
things
happen
and
but.
C
With
recruitment
too,
you
need
to
fight
Union,
you
need
to
be
recruiting
and
looking
for
certain
traits
for
this
kind
of
buy-in
and
for
this
kind
of
leadership
development,
and
then
we
need
to
develop
those
executive
leaders
and
again
servant
leadership.
I
mentioned
that
earlier,
but
think
customer
experience
one
of
the
things
that
has
to
be
focused,
because
now
this
thing
becomes
circuitous.
That's
part
of
that
redefining.
C
What
is
our
customers
experience
and
our
customer
is
the
population
at
law
and
I'll
get
into
a
couple
of
trust
factors.
Some
of
the
other
things
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at.
One
of
the
things
that
we
got
an
issue
with
is
trust.
The
mayor
mentioned
it
in
an
interview
the
other
day
he
said
well,
I've
gone
through
this
I've
gone
through
a
process
of
trusting
and
we
all
go
through
the
processes
of
trust
and
but
what?
What
does
that?
How
is
that
trust
element
broken?
C
How
do
you
break
into
that
wall
and
it
ain't
that
easy
you've
got
a
council
that
doesn't
trust
staff,
doesn't
trust
their
government
yeah
community.
That
may
not
trust
their
government
to
provide
services,
and
there
are
certain
departments
that
are
the
image
from
our
community
and
they're
doing
a
great
job
out
there
I
pulled
over
and
asked
a
police
officer.
There
was
a
jog
up
there.
I
was
up
on
hillside
this
morning.
There
was
a
run
through
there
and
there
was
a
car
show
there
in
that
parking
lot.
C
The
old
Transit,
Center
and
I
just
stopped
in
and
spoke
to
the
police
officer.
That
was
there
because
they
did
some
traffic
stuff
I
guess
a
few
years
ago.
So
there
was
a
fatality
in
one
of
these
jobs,
so
they've
gotten
much
more
aggressive
in
terms
of
how
we
quadrant
off
these
these
types
of
events,
there
was
a
5k
run
so.
D
C
K
K
C
This
goes
into
how
we
engage
our
community
because
one
of
the
things
I've
noticed
specifically
in
Corpus
Christi
much
different
I,
think
than
the
radio
Hall
I
think
movie
I
could
bid
and
when
they
don't
know,
but
there's
not
there,
there's
a
huge
expectation
in
the
park
system,
a
huge
expectation
in
the
park
system
in
Corpus,
Christi
and,
more
typically,
those
expectations
that
exceed
the
amount
that
someone's
willing
to
be
taxed
to
provide
those
services,
so
expectation
is
exceeding
a
willingness.
Somebody
needs
to
do
a
gut
check
on
that.
Okay,
we
can
provide
that
services.
C
So
how
do
you,
when
you're
working
with
do
you
plan,
for
it
I,
wouldn't
say
that
you
plan
your
budget
for
it,
except
that
we
might
be
planning
our
budget
for
it
now,
first
of
all,
Senate
bill
to
move
dier
moved
our
budgeting
process
about
six
weeks.
Is
that
sound
right
about
six
weeks
slid
that
process
six
weeks
south
towards
us?
That's
the
first
thing
that
happened
there,
but
is
the
city
prepared
to
go
out
on
an
election
when.
C
Ready
to
go
clear,
an
election,
so
those
contingencies
might
be
built
into
the
project
process
now,
just
purely
based
on
that
weather
like
and
then,
if
it
goes
out
to
referendum,
does
it
get
approved
or
doesn't
get
denied,
and
then
how
do
you
you
almost
gotta
have
to?
But
if
you
are
making
a
decision
to
go
to
referendum,
you
better
have
two
budgets
in
your
fist.
K
E
K
Let
me
explain:
I
got
it,
maybe:
okay,
the
best
evaluation
legal
for
chain.
These
are
affected,
our
hotel-motel
tax.
What's
those
countries,
but
you
have
experience
in
dealing
with
those
types
of
even
if
they're
short-term
right,
you
know
a
short
term
for
for
some
2-3
years
made
may
may
harm
the
city.
You
could
be
on
recovery,
okay,.
C
Instantaneous
short-term,
unexpected
those
are
my
parameters
into
question
the
as
you're.
Looking
at
your
budget,
you
figure
out
how
to
put
the
brakes
on
because
your
budget,
your
budget,
isn't
one-year
budget
so
now
you're
operating
from
your
originally
operating
under
one
expected
revenue
and
now
you're
working
on
another
expected
revenue
and
it's
lower
so
much
lower
revenue.
So
what
do
you
do
you
look
at
your
hirings
and
these
are
things
that
everyone
will
typically
do
you
look
at
your
hires
you'll.
Look
at
how
you're
gonna
deal
with
salary
savings.
C
You
look
at
your
project
listed
because
you
budgeted
for
that.
You
were
expecting
to
spend
that
much
money
that
year
and
now
you're
not
gonna.
Have
it
so
you've
got
to
drop
that
down
and
you're
dropping
that
down.
You
got
to
change
those
expectations.
This
isn't
gonna
happen.
This
isn't
gonna
happen
now,
and
this
isn't
gonna
happen.
Now,
there's
some
there's
some
very
and
and
the
last
place
you
want
to
get
to
is
your
team.
C
Once
you
start,
your
teams,
I
say:
go
to
a
hiring
freeze,
but
you
got
to
be
careful
with
a
hiring
freeze,
because
you
can
debilitate
team
like
having
higher
difference.
You
can
suddenly-
and
this
is
where
the
magic
the
department
heads
come
into-
play
they're
recruiting.
They
got
a
four-man
crew,
they're,
recruiting
they
can't
recruit.
They
got
to
at
vacancies
on
a
four-man
crew
that
crews,
debilitating
and
suddenly,
whatever
they
were
doing,
they're
not
doing
anymore.
So
now
they
got
to
move
to
another
and
that's
what
that
man
that
turns
it
to
management.
C
How
do
we
manage
that
process?
How
do
we
leave
through
it?
But
the
last
thing
you
want
to
do
is
start
the
furloughs.
Knowing
it
you
start
furloughs,
you
start
cutting
people,
that's
not
a
place.
You
want
to
be
because
what
that
only
is
a
demoralisation
of
your
workforce
and
you
can't
simultaneously
be
trying
to
build
public
service
and
demoralizing
them
with
cuts.
C
E
C
When
the
when
the
Border
Patrol
was
out
there
clearing
that
some
years
ago
that
they
they
suddenly
became
expose,
you
couldn't
walk
to
the
edge
of
the
river,
and
you
could
see
these
Rapids
right
there
on
the
river
and
what
and
I
laid
something
out
that
I
wanted
to
do
and
the
response
it
was
given
back
to
me
through
somebody
else,
because
I
wasn't
particularly
effective
with
that
city
manager.
So
I
used
the
conduit
to
get
there
and,
and
they
were,
they
were
essentially
told
I'm
not
worried
about
that.
Why
are
you.
C
In
the
you
know,
that's
that's
getting
you
nowhere
and
I
have
struggled
with
wanting
to
emphasize
and
turn
our
face
to
the
river
for
a
long
time,
even
when
we
did
some
some
backfill
in
there
after
a
flood
I
said
no,
let's
keep
it
less
sloping.
Let's
get
that,
let's
drop
that
Bank
down
and
let's
get
people
to
be
able
to
put
their
feet
in
the
water.
C
Why
would
we
not
want
to
open
that
river
up
to
recreational
I
would
not
want
to
engage
that
the
bird-watching
and
all
of
the
other
things
that
can
go
on
there?
Why
would
we
turn
our
back
to
River?
We've
got
a
river
every
other
city.
That's
got
a
river
in
the
country
gets
to
gets
to
enjoy.
It
gets
to
turn
it
into
an
amenity
package.
It
gets,
gets
engaged
with
that
River
and
turn
it
into
that.
They
have
identity.
With
that
River
we
have
identity
with
our
River,
but
we
don't
engage
it
injured.
C
L
The
way
you
would
do
that
Keith
would
be
in
what
we
have.
How
would
you
concretely
move
in
that
direction?
Well,.
C
It's
one
of
those
kind
of
things
that
I
mentioned
about
my
father,
just
decided
to
do
it.
I
would
I
put
together
a
small
team,
anything
or
gonna
say
you
say:
okay,
how
do
you
show
me
how
we
can
get
here
and
I?
Think
I
would
probably
get
ideas
of
engagement
with
the
Border
Patrol,
but
we
owned
a
lot
of
that
property
out
there.
It's
our
lane.
C
M
M
C
To
be
at
the
department
level,
and
then
you've
got
a
budget
for
it.
Well,
what
you've
got
to
do
in
each
of
those
scenarios
for
each
of
those
initiatives
that
guide
you've
got
to
develop
a
work
strategy,
a
work
plan
to
how
to
meet
that
threshold,
how
to
get
there
and
that
department
needs
to
do
that.
Department
now,
I'm,
not
familiar
with
the
document,
I'm,
not
familiar
with
what
those
may
be,
but
if
it
sets
some
timelines,
then
we
as
an
organization-
and
it
was
a
community
level-
they
need
be
cognizant
of
who
we
serve.
C
M
As
a
city
manager,
what
would
you
what
would
your
recommendations
to
that
committee?
As
a
leader
of
our
community
on
this
porc
on
is
housing?
How
we're
gonna
do
this
and
making
sure
that
you
know
what
you're
a
--there
you're
the
boss
and
making
sure
that
all
is
it
being
done
being
communicated
to
the
right
people
and
if
you
executed
right.
K
D
M
It
she's
not
gonna,
get
anything
done
in
the
river,
we're
not
going
to
get
anything
that
in
our
plan
budgets
on
yellow
plate,
because
there's
no
leadership.
How
do
you
how
you
gonna
put?
What
scorecard
are
you
gonna
put
in
there
yeah
and
how
you're
going
to
want
to
try
that
to
make
sure
that
you
know
what
this
is,
what
we
planned
I
want
to
report
council
needs
to
know.
The
community
needs
to
know.
D
C
We
had
a
system
of
performance
measures
in
our
organization,
but
they
were
also
some
of
those
CPRS
were
project
driven
as
well.
You
have
to
cook
keep
things
on
track.
That's
my
role
will
be
to
make
sure
that
the
ACMs
keep
those
things
on
track
as
the
ACM
that
is
going
to
carry
the
brunt
of
the
weight
to
make
sure
those
things
happen.
I
mentioned
that
earlier
about
some
of
the
implementation
of
the
attitudes.
The
role
of
the
ACM
is
to
ensure
that
those
things
happen
through.
D
C
Departments,
if
those
departments
are
reaching
those
milestones
and
reaching
those
goals
in
that
and
in
that
performance
of
those
tasks,
sometimes
that's
just
that.
Cpr
is
a
report
card
on
the
on
the
team,
but
in
some
cases
it's
a
report
card
on
the
on
the
task
at
hand.
Okay,
you've
got
to
have
that
task
from
the
center
and
you've
got
to
have
a
department.
That's
got
buy-in
to
do
it
and
you've
got
to
have
an
ACM,
that's
making
sure
they're
staying
on
path.
I
mentioned
the
budget
initiatives.
C
Some
of
these
things
are
going
to
be
budget
driven
issues
so
in
the
budget,
we're
gonna
approve
something
something's
gonna
happen
in
the
budget
to
make
one
element
of
those
things
happen.
If
you
just
describe
well
as
soon
as
that
happens
in
the
budget,
what
we
will
do
is
we'll
go
right
back
and
formulate
the
strategy
and
the
plan
of
that
budget
initiative
to
ensure
that
it
happens
within
that
budget
cycle.
C
You
have
to
push
those
things
through
the
cycle.
You
have
to
keep
them
nailed
into
the
cycle,
and
that
goes
on
and
a
few
of
these,
these
things
that
I
listed.
Here's
accomplishments,
while
I
was
the
interim
director
there
at
Corpus
Christi.
Some
of
these
things
were
things
that
were
on
slowly.
They
were
on
the
slow
path
believe
it
or
not
older
bond
projects.
Moving
forward.
We
still
have
projects
from
2012
2008
that
had
not
been
doing
in
Corpus
Christi.
So
this
is
not
new
to
organizations
and
we
got
those
things
moving.
C
We
upgraded
our
water
and
wastewater
plants.
We
did
this
performance
report
at
Capital.
Budgeting
division,
don't
know
if
we
have
one
here,
but
that
capital
budgeting
division
was
really
key
and
it's
a
part
of
our
our
budget
department.
But
it's
a
division
in
the
budget
department
and
having
someone
work
on
the
creation
of
that
CIP
and
then,
following
following
the
implementation
of
that
CIP,
from
of
which
your
budgetary
standpoint
is
key
to
seeing
them
implemented.
Seeing
those
projects
get
done
a
couple
of
things
we
did
in
development
services.
C
C
C
Policy,
that's
what
the
budget
does
the
and
so
one
of
the
discussions
we
had
the
City
Council
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
got
some
money
to
do
residential
streets.
Our
type
B
when
it
was
voted
for
was
very
constrained.
50%
of
whatever
came
in
on
the
type
B
went
development
of
that
remaining
50%
500
went
over
to
500
thousand
went
over
to
housing.
The
remaining
portion
is
to
be
used
on
arterials
and
collectors,
not
local
streets,
but
arterials
and
collectors.
C
What
I
proposed
to
them
was
to
build
those
those
projects
into
the
bond,
because
you
got
two
separate
sections
of
your
of
your
tax
rate
right.
You
got
a
minnow
and
Ines.
You
got
these
two
things
that
are
working
each
one
has
a
different
rate
and,
as
you've
adopted
your
tax
rate,
you
got
two
different,
two
different
numbers
that
you're
adopted
in
that
process.
C
So
what
I
would
did
was
I'd
said:
let's
take
our
be:
let's
get
our
debt,
let's
take
our
B,
let's
bring
it
into
the
I
and
s
to
pay
for
the
debt
perfectly
legit.
Under
the
way,
the
type
II
was
adopted
at
the
referendum
and
then
I've
hit
that
about
six
times
and
then
take
the
move.
What
you
just
read
up
under
hi
NS
/,
they
Emma
no
and
then
through
that
mechanism.
C
You've
now
got
money
at
them
and
owe
to
spend
on
the
local
streets
largest
consumer
wouldn't
have
necessarily
have
to
be,
but
you
were
gonna
free
up
money
in
your
Emma.
No,
you
were
gonna,
bring
more
money
into
your
Emma.
No
out
of
your
is
I
was
already
bringing
money
out
of
the
is.
Anyway,
we
were
we
we
had
Rin
s
was
a
little
high.
C
We
were
building
a
fund
balance
in
there
that
we
didn't
need
to
have
so
because
evaluations
valuations
went
up
that
the
I
ns
was
staying
flat,
so
we
were
building
fund
balance.
So
what
I
did
was
I
took
a
penny
on
it,
cuz
a
penny
out
of
it.
I
NS
moved
it
over
to
the
mo.
That
also
gave
me
the
ability
to
what
I
said
earlier
in
funding
the
police
and
fire
academies
to
go
beyond
the
attrition
rate.
That's
that's
really
key.
C
C
A
Have
we
have
about
ten
minutes
left
the
regards
to
this
process?
That
concludes
the
the
topics
of
discussion.
So
I'd
like
to
you
know,
I
want
to
give
an
opportunity
for
mr.
soma
to
suppose
it
with
marks,
but
is
there
a
question
I'm
going
to
eat
I'll
I'll
go
to
one
side,
allow
what
was
it
on
each
side?
Don't
question
on
the
other
side,
great
or
a
question
that
was
that
you
would
like
to
address
that
was
not
within
you
know
your
area
so.
J
C
Only
enough
the
the
industry
in
Corpus
Christi
is
very
willing
to
engage
on
a
lot
of
those
discussions.
There
is
a
group
there,
they
have
an
industry
group
and
they
have
a
presiding
person
there,
and
then
there
are
other
people
that
represent
that
industry
that
came
into
this
this
history.
So
it
wasn't
hard
to
get
this
group
together.
One
of
the
things
that
the
industry
saw
was
with
the
coming
on
of
exon
exon
was
a
big
water
heater
that
that
diminished
our
for
that
once
they
get
online,
then
we
got
this
much
room.
It's
tough!
L
C
What
they
wanted
to
do
was
provide
a
mechanism
to
ensure
that
their
water
wouldn't
be
shut
off
and
wouldn't
be
shut
off.
First,
because
potentially
you're
gonna
you're
going
to
look
to
preserve
your
residence
and
then
you're
gonna
cut
industry
off
in
some
point
in
there.
So
what
they
were
willing
to
do
was
actually
impose
themselves
with
a
fee,
and
the
intent
of
that
fee
is
to
capitalize
another
water
source
and
to
capitalize
having
that
water
generally,
that
water
that
they've
to
meet
their
industrial
needs,
and
they
it's
25
cents
per
pound.
C
It's
not
a
small
amount
so
that
that,
actually,
that
money
is
seven
digits
now
that
was
just
done
here,
though
yeah,
so
it
it
was.
It's
a
very
smart
idea.
It's
what's
kind
of
leading
the
leading
the
charge
on
the
D
sell
permits
over
there.
For
that,
let's
see
water
D.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
really
important
is
the
water
portfolio
diversification.
C
You
know
they're
not
not
doing,
aquifer
storage
or
anything
like
that
over
there
just
yet,
but
they
are
looking
to
diversify
their
portfolio
in
any
way
see
water
Esau
is
one.
We
currently
have
surface
one.
We
all
a
caucus,
Christian
Turco
joke
excuse,
so
he's
got
those
things
out
there
right
now
in
terms
of
a
surface
and
one,
and
we
also
have
access
to
the
Colorado
but
expanding
that
portfolio,
the
desal
sort
of
make
some
sense.
So
that's
that's
really
how
that
whole
thing
stimulated.
C
It
was
kind
of
them
coming
to
us
us
coming
to
them.
What
are
we
going
to
do
kind
of
thing,
so
it
it
rolled
all
almost
all
by
itself
now
getting
to
that
25
cents
and
getting
to
the
agreement
was
a
little
bit
trickier
because
they
wanted
to
cap
it
and
they
wanted
to
define
when
a
plant
would
be
built
and
they
wanted
to
do
a
lot
of
things
in
there.
So
that's
really
what
happened
in
that
negotiation
was
okay,
what's
gonna
happen
with
this
money
and
when
is
it
gonna
happen?
C
F
This
is
one
that
I've
already
asked
to
get
on
the
other
candidates
who
I
want
I'm
good
enough.
Okay,
like
in
City
operation
in
City
operation
like
at
any
business.
It's
very
important
that
you
have
you
know:
productivity
efficiency,
safety,
employee
training,
accountability,
time,
unis,
customer
service
and
measures
that
you
can
use
to
improve
what
you're
doing
right.
What
can
you
tell
me
about
standard
operating
procedures?
What
value
do
they
provide?
Have
you
used
them
in
the
past
and
do
departments
that
report
to
you
currently
have
written
SOPs
in
place?
F
C
D
C
In
a
lot
of
different
areas,
are
you
Bo
and
did
not
have
a
set
of
n
so
P
as
those
two
were
drafted
while
I
was
interim
city
manager
and
and
they're
essential?
You
have
to
have
that
SOA.
You
can't,
if
you're
doing
something
on
a
regular
basis,
your
standard
operating
procedures
is,
it
needs
to
get
nailed
down,
and
this
is
why
I'm
municipal
court
is
one
place
in
Corpus
Christi.
Our
misreport
judge
is
not
elected
on
his
report.
C
George
is
appointed
by
the
council,
but
we
still
have
the
segregation
of
activities
for
the
administration
of
the
universal
court
and
the
upper
and
then
the
court
itself.
The
judges
there
they're
separate
the
administration
of
it
comes
under
me.
We
had
frankly,
our
judge
was
dissatisfied
with
what
was
going
on
at
the
administrative
level
and
that's
when
we
started
this
engagement
to
work
through
and
to
get
to
a
point
where
we're
developing
SOPs
there
about
half
done
legends.
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But
the
answer.
The
answer
your
questions-
yeah-
you
gotta-
have
SOPs,
particularly
in
something
that
you
do
every
time,
all
the
time
by
Road
and,
most
importantly,
when
you're,
when
you're
a
service
provider
in
the
organization
you
vo,
is
utility
billing
office
they're,
the
ones
that
send
out
the
water
bills,
they
needed
SOPs
IT,
how
they
deal
with
things
they
they
need.
Some
SOPs.
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You've
got
important
tasks
a
lot
of
times
in
these
city
manager
searches,
the
word
they
get
to
put
in
this
bit
there
they
good
fit
for
the
organization
but
fit
for
what
that's
that's.
What
you
you're
dealing
with
is
it
is
that
individual
to
fit
for
the
community
is
that
individual,
a
fit
for
the
council
collective?