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City Utilities Advisory Committee Meeting 111722
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So
thank
y'all,
so
that
was
Onyx
with
the
utility
advisory
committee
for
the
City
of
Laredo,
we're
kind
of
doing
a
joint
meeting
with
them
they're
going
to
sit
in
on
the
presentation
that
weed
and
Jeff
AV
have
put
together.
So
thank
you
all
for
coming.
It's
a
pretty
pretty
good,
showing
I
appreciate
everybody,
making
it
down
here
from
San
Antonio
from
Eagle,
Pass
and
folks
from
the
area
from
from
the
valley
as
well.
I
appreciate
it.
G
This
is
I,
guess
our
second
official
meeting
here
at
the
middle
RGV
section
for
wheat,
we're
looking
for
more
members.
So
if
you
guys
want
to
click
the
link
and
have
the
city
Laredo
Eagle
Pass
pay
your
membership
we'd
appreciate
it
we're
trying
to
grow
it
we're
under
new
leadership.
It
was
a
dictatorship,
but
Vivian
and
Tammy
have
now
been
appointed
to
I,
don't
know
VP
and
treasure,
so
we're
growing
we're
very
excited
that
this
is
growing,
more
people
more
faces
and
I'll.
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Let
Julie
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
wheat
does,
what
the
goals
are
and
then
afterwards,
oh
by
the
way,
City
Laredo.
Thank
you
for
having
us
I
appreciate
it.
Almost
I
almost
didn't
make
it
to
this
meeting.
I'll
just
put
it
that
way.
Thank
you
for
everybody
that
behind
the
scenes
that
put
this
together,
Maria
and
Tammy,
oh,
it's
Tammy's
birthday
as
well.
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Said
my
name
is
Julie
nargong
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
the
water
environment,
Association
of
Texas.
So
that's
the
organization
that
is
so
humbled
to
be
here
today
in
your
beautiful
water
Museum.
So
thank
you
for
opening
it
up
to
us
and
thank
you
for
the
VIPs
that
are
in
the
crowd.
This
is
pretty
exciting
for
us,
wheat
or
the
water
environment
Association
of
Texas.
Basically,
we
seek
to
educate
water
utility
folks,
as
well
as
the
public
on
water
and
utility
issues.
H
So
anything
that's
important
to
you
is
important
to
us
we're
a
member
driven
organization
that
works
with
the
TCEQ,
so
our
Regulators,
as
well
as
our
legislators
and
all
of
our
utility
water
professionals,
so
we're
here
to
support
you-
and
we
are
like
I,
said
so
thankful
and
humbled
to
be
here
today
to
be
able
to
bring
in
one
of
my
board
members
Jeff
habe
who's,
a
board
member
of
the
water
environment
Association
in
Texas,
and
also
the
vice
president
of
production
and
treatment
with
saws.
So
he's
the
one.
H
That's
really
going
to
give
you
the
information
today,
so
I'm
just
going
to
say,
give
one
last
thanks
to
City
of
Laredo
all
of
our
water
Professionals
in
the
audience,
as
well
as
our
sponsors,
and
we
have
definitely
our
Duro.
Yes,
first
and
foremost,
Honduras
and
commerce
controls
Southern
trenches,
Solutions.
F
I
Is
that
necessary
for
that
that's
necessary
for
that
yeah,
okay,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
use
the
microphone,
then
I
really
do
appreciate
the
City
of
Laredo
having
on
us
down
here
really
on
Echo
Julie's
thoughts,
and
why
should
the
municipalities
get
involved
in
wheat?
Really
it's
education?
All
of
us
are
facing
the
same
thing.
What
are
we
short
of
we're
short
of
skilled
worker
for
short
of
operators?
What
do
we
have
walking
out
at
the
door
every
day
we
have
years
and
years
of
experience
walking
out
every
day.
I
I
So
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
going
to
be
in
charge
of
next
year,
I
won't
be
on
the
board.
Any
longer
is
Advanced
operator,
training,
I'm
really
working
want
to
make
that
a
successful
program
as
I
tell
everyone.
I
want
us
Texas
to
have
the
best
operators
in
the
nation
and
what
we're
going
to
work
on
is
Advanced
education
for
operators
and
those
are
y'all
that
are
operators
know
you
can
take
the
same
old,
Texas,
Rural,
Water,
antiques
classes.
Over
and
over
again,
like
I've,
taken
pump
and
motor
maintenance.
I
You
know
probably
five
times
just
to
continue
my
life.
So
what
this
thought
is
is
to
really
work
with
the
cities
and
really
work
together
with
the
cities
and
bring
operators
from
all
over
together
and
train
them
on.
You
know
things
that
they
really
do
face
every
day
in
the
Wastewater
Plant.
What
we
hope
to
do
a
similar
thing
and
they
are
doing
a
similar
thing
on
the
aw
really
I
do
encourage
involvement
in
wheat
and
if
you
do
it
as
a
municipality,
it's
very
cheap,
very
inexpensive
for
your
members.
I
F
I
Not
plug
on
that
so
back
when
we
thought
about
this
presentation
in
July,
August
Laredo
is
in
a
hell
of
a
drought,
and
then
y'all
had
were
blessed
with
rain
in
August
right
Deluge
I
have
a
friend
that
has
a
Ranch
north
of
here.
He
dug
this
big
old
stock
tank
and
he
didn't
think
he'd
ever
see
it
full.
He
drove
down
here,
and
it
was
running
out
everywhere.
So
y'all
been
blessed,
San
Antonio
we
haven't
San
Antonio
we've
had
eight
nine
I
talked
to
the
National
Weather
Service.
I
C
I
I
I
Too
close
all
right
about
our
Council
program
and
I
really
wanted
to
emphasize.
This
is
about
two
billion
dollars
over
the
next
five
years:
we're
spending
about
five,
five
between
500
and
650
million
every
year
on
Capital
Improvement,
that's
construction
out
the
door.
We
have
13
105
about
13
500
miles
of
water
maze.
We
have
five
major
plants,
we
have
three
Wastewater
plants,
125
MGD,
46,
MGD,
16,
MGD,
our
water
plants.
G
I
Think
the
number
that
blows
me
away
on
this
slide-
I'm
sorry
I'll
go
over
here-
is
we
have
about
770
miles,
7
700
miles
of
Water,
Mass
and
unfortunate
for
us
we're
not
flat-like
here
in
Laredo,
so
we
actually
Bear
County
goes
to
an
elevation
of
420
on
the
South
Side,
all
the
way
to
180
far
Northwest
side.
So
we
have
46
pressure
zones
or
different
pressure
planes,
23
major
question
plants,
in
fact
black
and
Beach.
He
does
a
lot
of
work
for
us
to.
You
know
work
all
over
the
world.
I
I
So
what
what
are
we
predicting
for
the
long
term
and
unfortunately,
La
Nina
is
here
to
stay
and
I
was
talking
to
the
National
Weather
Service
again,
I
was
sitting
next
to
the
guy
and
I
said.
What's
it
look
like
for
the
Sun
or
for
the
winter
and
going
forward
into
next
summer,
he
says
La
Nina
is
going
to
stick
around.
What
does
La
Nina
mean
needs
a
kind
of
a
warmer
than
normal
and
it
usually
brings
less
rainfall.
I
F
I
I
F
I
I
I
F
I
I
Compared
to
where
I
Bear,
County
and
Medina
County
and
that
area-
but
you
know
you
also
have
portions
up
in
North
Central
Texas
still
in
pretty
bad
shape
up
in
the
panhandles
kind
of
hit
and
miss.
So
it's
a
you
know
it's
kind
of
a
hit
and
miss,
but
we're
in
a
lot
better
shape
than
we
were
in
August.
I
But
it's
still
not
looking
great
I
put
this
slide
in
here,
and
this
is
for
the
water
Geeks
in
here
I.
Just
like
this
slide
and
I
know.
For
most
people,
it's
not
a
very
beautiful
slide,
but
I
was
just
kind
of
amazed.
What
I
had
the
guys
plot
is
for
2011
to
2022
the
the
bar
graph
is:
how
many
days
did
we
pump
more
than
300
MGB,
which
300
MGD
is
kind
of
my
point?
We're
moving
300
MGD
we're
pumping
a
lot
of
model.
I
I
I
So
when
did
that
all
change-
and
you
know
you
always
need
a
Tiffany
point
in
society-
that
kind
of
changes
things
and
what's
happened
in
San
Antonio
is
okay.
San
Antonio
was
based
upon
we're
blessed
with
the
Edwards
Oliver.
If
you're
familiar
with
it,
you
can
drill
a
30
inch
hole
in
the
ground.
You
can
pump
20
million
gallons
a
day
out
of
that
30
inch
hole
and
you
get
no
drawback.
I
I
It
was
a
flossing
filed
about
the
blind,
salamander
and
some
other
species,
the
fountain
daughter
that
were
in
the
Edwards
Opera
and
they
say
to
continue
pumping
they're
going
to
impact
that
endangered
species.
Now,
personally,
I
don't
know
if
that
was
as
much
about
the
endangered
species,
that's
kind
of
pushing
saws
to
diversify
the
water
supply.
You
have
one
of
the
largest
cities
in
the
country
who
are
relying
upon
on
water
supply,
so
it
kind
of
pushed
us
to
that
to
diversify.
I
So
we
this
lawsuit
was
filed
and
all
of
a
sudden,
they
said
we're
going
to
limit
your
pumpage
of
the
Edward
geographer.
So
what
do
you
do
so?
This
button
orders
pumping
limits
in
1996.,
so
they
allocated
how
much
every
pumper
historically
used
to
Edwards
how
much
they
could
pump
and
sauce
ended
up
with
172
000
acre
feed
and
we
historically
popped
180
plus.
So
all
of
a
sudden,
we
found
ourselves
short
of
water.
I
I
This
is
a
little
bit
about
diversity,
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
early
on.
First
thing
we
did
was
conservation,
that's
most
important.
The
only
way
you
move
forward
with
you've
got
to
protect
what
you
have,
what
what
what's
biggest
bang
for
your
buck.
Is
it
going
out
big
in
building
another
water
supply
that
costs
billions
of
dollars?
It's
conservation
and
we'll
show
some
our
slides
on
it.
Next
thing
we
did
was:
did
recycle
water
directories.
I
Most
people
don't
know
this
massage
has
the
biggest
direct
use
recycling
system
in
the
country,
and
we'll
talk
more
about
that.
After
that
we
did
Aqua
storage
and
recovery
and
I
often
thank
Karen
Laredo.
That
might
be
a
possibility.
I
don't
know,
I'd
have
to
think
about
that.
But
what
we
do
is
we're
limited
on
our
permit.
I
How
did
Edwards
Aquifer,
so
we
have
wet
ears,
we
store
the
water
underneath
the
ground
and
then
in
times
of
need.
You
pull
it
back
out.
So
right
now
we
have
186
thousand
almost
187
000
acre
feet,
scored
underneath
the
ground
and
through
the
legislature,
for
every
gallon
the
past
a
few
years
ago,
you're
allowed
to
pull
every
gallon.
You
store
your
level
that
gallery
that's
a
big
winner
for
us
and
been
a
real
blessing.
I
mean.
Maybe
you
could
do
something
very
similar
here.
I
You
know,
of
course,
it's
based
upon
your
your
rights
in
the
river,
but
possibly
store
water
I.
Just
really
like
that
option.
That's
what
Austin's
looking
at
is
not
for
storage
and
Recovery,
see
stored
during
times
of
planning,
pull
it
out
the
times
you
need
it.
I
started
working
at
the
plant
back
here
in
the
summer
of
2004,
I
started
the
plan
up
and
you
can
see
how
much
water
we
stored.
You
pulled
it
out
some
and
if
you're
in
the
middle
of
the
drought
in
2011
to
2016,
then
we
stored
quite
a
bit.
I
I
We
have
to
turn
around
and
put
more
water
out
of
our
storage
in
the
country.
This
kind
of
shows
our
Diversified
water
supply.
What
we've
been
able
to
do?
We
have
nine
sources
plus
recycled
water,
and
this
shows
a
typical
day
this
past
summer,
Vista
Ridge,
which
is
those
of
y'all
that
are
Aggies.
We
pull
about
48
million
gallons
a
day
from
the
appraisal,
Opera
up
and
near
Aggieland,
Caldwell
County
for
storage
and
Recovery
I
talked
about.
We
pulled
a
lot
of
water
back
out
of
storage.
I
This
summer
we
were
running
52,
MGB
rackets,
desawaren
at
5
MGB.
We
had
a
couple
of
challenges
with
some
wells,
but
we've
cranked
that
up
to
over
10
other
Water
Resources,
we
get
some
from
Canyon
Lake,
some
from
Gonzales
Carrizo.
We
get
some
from
a
bunch
of
different
places.
That's
27
mg
G
and
then
recycle
water
about
21,
MGB
and
I.
Put
this
kind
of
recycled
water
to
CPS,
with
62.9
MGD.
Those
y'all
that
aren't
familiar
with
San
Antonio
CPS
Energy.
Is
our
power
supply?
I
I
I
About
130
miles
of
pipe,
we
started
to
be
about
2
000..
We
Supply
and
I'll
talk
more
about
this,
but
we
Supply
industry,
we
Supply
the
river
walk
and,
of
course,
we
Supply
the
power
plants,
but
it
comes
from
our
three
plants.
We
talked
about.
I
have
the
house
plant
like
I
said
this
is
125
MGD
plant
and
the
challenge
is
just
like
it
would
be
here.
You
could
put
a
recycle
system
in
you
got
to
run
the
pipe
to
the
customers.
So
that's
a
nightmare.
I
You
know,
can
you
imagine
through
all
this
developed
area,
where
you
want
to
run
it?
How
you
would
do
that?
So
that
was
a
nightmare
getting
that
pipe
up,
then
we
run
the
West
Side
Loop
up
and
we
have
an
interconnection
at
the
very
top.
Okay
cool
wait.
Thank
you.
We
have
an
interconnect
up
here
at
the
top.
I
will
say.
I
Treatment
perspective:
this
is
a
nightmare.
We
do
Stream
flow
augmentation
at
these
points
where
we
add
water
to
the
San
Antonio
Riverwalk.
We
also
add
it
to
a
creek
on
the
east
side,
so
we
do
augmentation
of
the
river.
We
have
our
small
plant
of
many
acree
that
provides
water
to
the
west
side
as
well.
In
this
46
mdv
goes
up
to
the
West
Side,
so.
I
I
So
the
street
Pathways
that
talked
about
CPS,
Energy,
direct
reuse,
I
think
I
mentioned
that
Toyota
plant
there.
That's
one
of
the
reason
Toyota
came
to
San
Antonio
is
because
we
can
provide
recycle
water.
They
use
over
a
million
gallons
a
day
in
their
paint
shop,
so
they
use
over
a
million
gallons
a
day
of
recycled
water.
I
So
we're
actually
in
hearings
right
now
related
to
that.
So
we'll
see
how
that
plays
out.
But
we
will
move
that
water
from
our
wastewater
treatment
plants.
50
000
acre
feet
all
the
way
to
the
coast
and
then
we'll
still
own
it,
and
we
could
do
with
what
we
want.
You
know
there's
some
people
fighting
us
on
it,
of
course,
Alcoa
or
3M.
I
think
it
is
not
three,
not
three
thousand
along
the
way
is
fighting
us.
A
little
bit.
I
I
The
Riverwalk,
unfortunately,
it's
not
an
actual
Flowing
Springs
anymore,
it's
recycled
water
and
those
of
y'all.
In
the
that
know
a
lot
about
Wastewater
you
could
smell
the
musty
smell,
so
you
know
it's
Wastewater,
you
can't.
Unless
you
really
know
waste
water,
you
won't
pick
it
up,
but
that
is-
and
you
know
the
Riverwalk
is
the
largest
economic
generator
in
the
state
of
Texas
kind
of
an
interesting
fact.
I
Are
you
going
to
do
it
it's
going
to
go
into
the
river
and
yeah
so
we'll
own
it
technically,
because
it's
groundwater
we
produced
it,
we
own
that
water,
technically,
so
we're
going
to
get
transported,
so
we're
going
to
have
a
bed
and
Banks
permit
all
the
way
to
the
so
we've
applied
for
that
and
right
now,
there's
some
people
that
contested
it
so
right
now.
We're
here
is
over
the
contested
here.
So
we'll
see
how
that
plays
out.
That's
going
to
be
a
huge
thing
in
Texas
water
line
and
you'll.
I
You'll
be
able
to
be
victorious
yeah,
we
we're
pretty
sure
we're
going
to
get
this,
but
I
mean
I've,
never
can
tell
right
right,
but
there's
some
help
information.
We
have
that
supports
what
you're
trying
to
do,
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
we're
doing
it.
Of
course,
the
people
cities
all
up
and
down
towards
the
coast,
supporters
big
time
right
right,
because
that's
critical
to
their
industry
I
mean
they
got
to
have
that
freshwater
and
fisherman
support
us.
I
They
got
to
have
that
fresh
water
coming
into
the
bay
right,
Aransas,
Bay
or
they're
in
trouble,
so
that
we've
got
a
lot
of
support
and
we
signed
up
a
lot
of
support
all
the
way
down
to
the
coast.
So
we,
you
know,
the
industries
are
fighting
us
a
little
bit
because
they're
worried
about
you
know
they've
relied
upon
that,
but
that's
not
part
of
their
service
line
Appliance.
I
I
I
E
I
F
I
I
The
rules
of
constantly
changed
over
time,
but
not
where
we
used
to
be,
but
we
we've
revised
them
I
think
it's
over
over
18
times
in
the
last
few
you
know,
since
they
were
created
and
we've
talked
about
watering
times,
Car
Wash
times
pool
feeling
times
decorative
water
features
and
at
first
we
put
in
where
you
could
only
water
on
the
weekends
that
was
them.
I
mean
you
don't
want
to
do
that,
because
I'll
never
forget
one
Sunday
night,
our
Peak
demand
was
650.
Mgb
you
looked
around,
every
tank
was
dropping.
I
F
I
To
catch
it,
you
got
to
catch
them
and
that's
the
same
thing
about
water
and
I'll
talk
more
about
that.
You
know.
Basically,
you
try
to
get
cooperation
and
the
great
thing
about
this
facility
is
it's
about
education.
So
it's
about
teaching
the
kids.
You've
got
kids
and
kids
early
on,
but
you
got
to
have
a
hammer
too,
and
you
gotta,
you
know
people
don't
want
to
cooperate.
You
got
to
have
to
have
to
slam
a
little
bit.
I
Rules
and
it
talks
about
various
stages.
You
know
this
is
the
j17.
Well,
if
you're
familiar
with
San
Antonio,
that's
probably
Fort
Sam
San
Marcos
spring
flow.
It
talks
about
spring
clothes
hoval
and
it
talks
about
how
much
your
permit
is
cut
based
upon
where
the
level
of
the
Edwards
is,
and
you
can
see
if
we're
in
stage
four
we're
less
than
6
30,
which
we're
playing
with.
We
have
40
that
we
take
a
haircut
at
40
off
of
our
water
plants.
J
F
I
Do
and
I
was
thinking.
How
does
this
work
in
a
surface?
You
know
surface
water.
What
you
could
do
is
look
and
say
amistads
here
at
this
level,
40
percent.
We
go
to
water
restrictions.
If
it's
down
to
this,
but
of
course,
you've
got
to
get
participation
from
all
the
users
along
the
way,
or
at
least
the
users
Upstream
them
well
and.
J
I
J
I
I
Maybe
how
we
managed
I,
don't
know
how
you
do
because
right
now,
as
you
all
said,
you
know
they
can
keep
pumping,
but
you
got
to
get
a
participation
in
the
whole
Watershed.
You
know
what's
coming
in
the
Amistad:
what's
leaving
you
know,
because
the
Rio
Grande
has
this
much
water
in
it,
your
pumps,
don't
work
anymore,
we're
in
trouble.
So
how
do
you
do
that
so
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
present
this,
and
maybe
that's
the
way
you
manage
it
because
you
got
to
have
trigger
levels.
When
do
you
enforce
drought?
I
Went
back
last
week,
okay,
so
it's
San
Antonio!
We
have
a
hard
trigger
level
at
10
day,
rolling
average.
So
we
look
at
10
days
because
it
used
to
be
as
soon
as
it
hit
that
level
and
Trigger,
which
was
very
confusing.
So
that
was
terrible
because
people
would
get
confused.
So
it's
a
hard
10-day
rolling
average
we
get
once
per
week.
We'll
have
it
basically
came
one
from
Seven
PM
to
7
A.M.
When
we
hit
stage
two,
we
get
reduced
watering
hours
and
all
of
us.
I
I
Do
that
is
that
we
think
we
can
catch
people
watering,
you
know
three
or
four
in
the
morning
now
as
water
operators.
We
know
when
we
demand
starts
picking
up
at
four
o'clock,
not
everyone's
taking
a
shower.
That's
irrigation
system,
so
we've
never
entered
stage
three
or
stage
four
and
that's
every
other
week.
Watering
and
this
we've
never
done
this
surcharge.
I
I
You
can
stay,
we
see
we
stay
in
stage
two
more
often
than
not
stage
one
where
they're
kind
of
jumping
in
and
out
of
the
different
stages,
but
we
have
enough
diversification,
Water
Supplies,
even
when
we
get
an
amount
available,
cut
back,
we're,
okay,
the
big
thing
and
I'm
going
a
little
bit
long.
I'll
pick
it
up
a
little
bit.
I
think
we
have
for
one
o'clock
in
the
first
year
of
a
drought,
as
you
can
see
back
here,
you
know,
2005
is
pretty
dry
2006..
Then
you
go
to
2011..
I
I
was
in
the
first
year
or
two
of
a
drought.
You
have
very
high
demand.
People
are
going
to
use
water,
then,
as
the
drought
goes
on,
you
get
less
and
less
water.
You
know,
restrictions
aren't
about.
People
are
going
to
use
water
during
the
drought,
they're
not
going
to
use
less
water,
but
it's
about
trying
to
manage
the
amount
they
use.
K
I
A
key
this
this
shows
you
know,
we've
had
a
very
active
conservation
program
and
we
give
coupons
for
various
types
of
plants,
and
this
shows
our
map
where
people
have
used
them
and
you
think
well
in
San
Antonio
generally.
This
is
very
important.
This
is
very
affluent,
and
this
is
not
quite
as
affluent
kind
of
a
mix
here
kind
of
a
mix.
Here,
it's
been
used
all
over
I
think
that's
a
good
message
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
show
it
doesn't
matter
your
income
level.
I
You
give
people
money,
you
give
them
the
opportunity
to
plant
some
full
plants
and
give
them
some
ideas.
Don't
use
the
coupons
when
we
have
a
drought.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
this.
We
we
meet
every
week
every
other
week
and
talk
about
our
main
breaks.
How
are
what
can
we
do?
How
many
citations
are
we
issued?
How
much
water
do
we
have
left?
What's
what's
our
water
supply?
How
much
have
we
been
cutting
that
and
we
talk
about
you
know
what
can
we
do
what's?
What's
our
next
steps?
I
really
like
this
graph?
I
You
can
see
we
have
50
MGD
reduction
because
we
do
not.
We
implemented
no
watering
on
the
weekends,
so
on
weekends,
we
we
get
a
50,
MGD
production
and
so
for
us
guys
on
the
you
know,
providing
the
water.
That's
a
great
welcome
relief,
because
all
week,
you're
struggling
to
feel
your
tight
struggling
to
keep
those
tanks
full
and
then
the
weekend
hits
and
you
go,
and
then
you
get
ready
for
the
you
know
the
race
again
on.
I
That's
very
conflicting
yeah
and
that's
that's
one
thing
I'm
trying
to
make
it
to
make
yeah
we're
trying
to
make
it
we,
by
the
way
we've
had
one
of
the
best
years
financially
we've
ever
had,
but
the
problem
is
the
Water
Resources
cost
so
much
exactly
right.
So
if
we
took
our
population
going
by
53
since
2011.,
we
just
projected
demand
we
had
in
2011
to
today.
I
Here's
where
we
landed,
you
can
see,
we
started
getting
fairly
close,
but
and
it's
dropped
off
since
then,
and
we
stayed
much
longer,
but
you
can
see
I
would
have
been
in
trouble.
You
know
it
would
have
been
very
challenging
in
here.
For
me,
Although
our
Max
pumpage
day
was
during
winter
storm
Yuri
winter
storm
Yuri.
On
that
Thursday
we
pumped
448
MGB
the
most
widely
ever
pop
my
clock.
I
This
is
what
I
was
talking
about.
If
you
look
at
Jason
17,
you
can
see
where
we
were
in
2011,
where
we
are
in
2022
and
you
can
see
it's
getting
close
to
the
end
of
the
year.
What's
worrying
me
if
we
don't
bounce
back
and
we
start
where
we
were
in
1956.
This
is
an
all-time
low
in
1956
when
I
hit
612..
I
I
We're
talking
about
you.
We
are
doing
the
Ami
program
and
you
know
you've
always
got
to
have
a
handle,
and
you
know
before
we
just
have
conventional
meters,
so
we
do
patrols
and
what
this
is
showing
is
all
our
various
Patrol
routes
and
where
we're
catching
people,
so
we
Patrol.
This
is
some
very
high
usage
very
high
end
up
in
the
Dominion
area.
I
I
So
we
actually
have
to
testify
in
court
and
get
subpoenaed
on
these
things.
Our
staff
gets
subpoenaed,
so
it's
literally
taking
it's
137
ticket
the
first
time.
You
know
people
want
overtime
on
our
staff,
so
they're
willing
to
do
it,
but
the
problem
is
we
can't
help
with
operations
because
we're
done
which
I'll
show
a
little
bit
more
here
in
a
second.
I
I
I,
don't
know
if
it
goes
up
on
the
second,
but
it's
you
know
you
got
a
hammer
it
at
some
point.
You
know
you
try
to
be
nice,
but
at
some
point
you
got
to
bring
out
the
handbook
and
people
don't
like
getting
it
because
it's
you
know
it's
a
legal
thing:
they
got
to
go
to
court,
so
it's
we're
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
where
we
can
apply
it
to
the
legally
to
the
water
bill,
but
still
I
kind
of
like
the
court
summons,
because
that's
kind
of
makes
a
bigger
deal.
I
I
So
we
do
a
lot
of
editorial
media.
I.
Think
San
Antonio
are
probably
very
similar
to
Laredo
I,
think
laredo's,
probably
bought
water
or
more
water
smart
than
they
used
to
be
and
I.
Think
that's
what
we
strive
for
in
a
facility
like
this,
and
you
know
we
do
a
lot
of
sauce
media,
a
lot
of
social
media.
We
talk
about,
we
send
over
emails
to
over
350
000
accounts
and
I.
Think
this
open
range
is
astronomical
62
and
a
half
percent
for
for
just
an
email.
I
How
many
people
open
the
email
so
if
you're
above
50
on
an
email
like
that,
so
how
many
of
y'all
would
open
an
email,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
water,
smart
people
so
pay
media.
We
just
stopped
this
in
early
November,
a
lot
of
paid
media,
a
lot
of
billboards
and
last
I'll
just
kind
of
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
work
groups.
This
year
during
the
peak
during
June
and
July,
we
were
over
600
main
breaks,
just
crazy
amount
of
work,
and
this
is
2021.
I
You
can
see
how
much
we
were
up.
We
were
below
300
and
it
really
wasn't
that
wet
in
2021.
It
just
happened
to
rain
at
the
right
times.
You
can
see
it
starting
to
pick
up
once
it
stopped
raining,
but
crazy
for
our
crews
and
actually
I
just
got
an
email.
This
morning
this
350
has
come
down
to
172
we're
going
to
land
November
about
172
main
things,
and
we
have
about
550
people
in
our
distribution
and
collection
team.
We
were
down
120.
I
I
You
know
what
we
did
for
our
employees.
We
adjusted
work
times
to
avoid.
We
started
early
morning
to
repair
team
morning
and
evening
repair
teams
we're
doubling
this
repair
staff
on
critical
breaks.
We
took
more
people
out
because
they
just
couldn't
survive
the
need
emphasis
on
super
hydration,
replenishing,
electrolytes,
utilizing.
You
know
those
things
you
put
over.
F
I
I
No,
we
do
pay
well,
we
pay
we're
starting
because
we
have
to.
We
can't
get
anymore
we're
paying
about
1750
1770
historic,
current
utility
workers.
I
mean
we
have
to
can't
get
them,
we're
120
people
down
and
we
were
getting
killed.
Can
you
imagine
by
the
citizens,
when
we
weren't
responding
to
those
Bank
breaks
so
boots
on
the
ground?
I
K
I
I
K
F
I
I
F
I
Just
trying
to
work
as
hard
as
we
could
during
this
finally
letting
up
and
just
finally,
you
know,
work
safe
and
hydrate
for
our
crews.
You
know
it's
cool
now,
but
it
wasn't
this
way
and
it
won't
be
this
way
this
summer
continue
proactive
conservation,
compliance
effort.
Just
continued
communication.
You
know
you
got
to
plan
the
water.
I
You
know
what
update
we're,
updating
a
lot
of
management
plan
right
now,
every
five
years
we
go
in
and
look
can
update
our
plan
along
with
the
regional
kind
of
times
with
the
regional
water
plant,
and
we
look
we're
doing
update
on
potable
water
infrastructure
plan.
So
we
went
from
the
city
that
USAA,
which
is
the
largest
employer
in
San.
Antonio,
is
looking
at
the
leaving
San
Antonio
because
of
our
water
situation,
and
this
was
in
2017.
is
we're
more
secure
than
we
ever
happen.
You
got
to
have
that
water
for
businesses,
so.
F
G
F
B
I
have
a
comment
and
then
I
have
a
question.
I
was
very
impressed.
I
knew
about
some
of
this
stuff
because
I
get
San
Antonio
paper,
but
all
of
the
different
water
sources.
You
have
you
know
some
of
them
much
bigger
than
others.
Yes,
sir,
here
in
Laredo,
they
only
have
one
water
first,
we're
desperately
looking
for
a
second
one,
but
that
was
impressive
and
my
question
is
xeriscaping
how
how
much
nude
water
demands
are
there,
with
the
new
developments
number
one
and
number
two?
Are
you
encouraging
them
to
do?
I
C
I
New
developers,
we
do
encourage
zero
skate,
but
we
don't
have
an
ordinance
that
says
you
have
to
be
all
zero
state.
I
do
give
a
presentation
that
kind
of
shows
some
xeroscaping
and
talks
about
that
a
little
bit,
but
it's
a
little
bit
more
reactive,
unfortunately,
I
think
on
the
back
side
than
it
is
up
front,
but
we
do
have
things
in
place
requiring
topsoil.
Various
things
like
that
when
I'm
outside
it's
gone,
it's
gone.
I
But
yeah
as
well,
but
we
push
a
lot
in
homes.
I
mean
we.
We
give
a
lot
of
money
back
coupons
and
we
did
research
with
Texas
A
M
and
looked
at
drop,
tolerant,
grasses,
probably
15
years
ago.
So
we
looked
at
what
grass
and
that's
in
the
ordinance
you
can't
say.
Augustine
of
soy
said
it's
got
to
be
this
grass
or
that
grass,
based
upon
the
studies
we
did.
I
I
I
I
J
J
I
And
the
other
thing
that
we
have
and
I
don't
know
how
Laredo
does
it,
but
we
have
winter
averaging
going
on
right
now,
sewer
for
residential
and
so
people
are
smart.
Unfortunately,
we've
educated,
we
actually
do.
Advertisements
like
this
say,
use
less
water
because
you're
in
the
middle
of
winter
averaging,
that's
really
hurt
us
on
the
suicide
and
we're
sitting
there
advertising.
I
F
I
So
kind
of
a
catch-22,
but
we
always
say
our
objective-
is
to
sell
less
of
our
products
kind
of
counter-intuitive.
And
then
what
stinks
is
your
customers
go
there
and
they
use
less
of
your
product?
And
then
you
increase
the
rates
because
you
still
got
to
be
able
to
meet
Max
day
demand,
because
there's
going
to
be
one
day
where
they're
going
to
pop,
you
know
350
MGD,
360
MGD.
You
got
to
be
able
to
meet
that
demand,
so
they
don't
understand.
Okay,
I'm
making
all
these
sacrifices.
J
I
You
pay
yeah,
yeah
or
I
go
to
the
coast
instead
of
talk
with
a
pump
instead
of
140
miles,
Downstream
from
College
Station
I'm,
going
to
the
coast,
I'm
up
at
140
miles,
Upstream
to
elevations
of
over
1800
and
I'm
desalinating
all
that
water.
We
see
the
challenges
Corpus
is
having
right
now,
just
getting
the
permit
for
the
diesel
plant
that
they
thought
was
a
slam,
dunk
and
they're.
In
a
really
pickle
I
mean
they
need
that
water
I
mean
and
I
I'm,
very
supportive
of
that
growth
and
Corpus.
I
H
I
I
So
don't
talk,
developers
don't
talk,
but
we
do
have
some
of
the
highest
impact
fees
in
this
state,
if
not
the
highest,
so
we're
collecting,
because
San
Antonio's
growing,
our
collection
of
impact
fees
is
well
over
100
million
dollars
this
year.
Wow-
and
you
know,
our
philosophy
has
been
a
place
for
growth.
I
The
growth
place
for
growth
and
the
other
thing
that
we
just
did
is
we
just
restructured
our
rates
and
we
have
restructured
so
the
lower
end
of
people
that
use
less
actually
got
a
rate
decrease
because
it's
you
know
all
about
affordability
for
the
challenge.
People,
so
I'd
really
encourage
you
to
look
at
our
rates
that
we're
just
implementing,
because
you
know
we
our
rate
structures
based
upon
cost
of
service.
So
you
know
we
look
at
industrial,
residential
and
look
at
commercial.
I
We
look
at
recycle
and
we
calculate
how
much
the
cost
of
service
is,
how
much
it
costs
us
to
provide
that
that
service
to
that
customer.
It's
an
industrial
customers,
not
the
individual
customer,
but
that
class.
If
you
will-
and
that's
all
based
upon
that,
so
we
increased
a
little
bit,
we
found
out,
we
were
under
charging
for
a
commercial,
but
we
were
overcharging
a
little
bit
for
residential,
so
residential,
we're
supplementing
the
commercial
side.
I
I
We
don't
do
full
cost
recovery
on
recycling
and
some
people
get
upset
to
us
about
it
about
that
and
they
say
you
should
charge
just
what
you
do.
They're
not
subject
to
Drought
restrictions.
You'll,
recycle,
you
don't
have
job
restrictions.
If
you
have
a
golf
course,
but
we're
like
no
it's
it's
not
the
same
quality
product.
You
know
it's!
It's
not.
If
you
haven't
used
it
for
industrial
facilities,
you
got
to
clean
it
up
a
little
bit.
You
know
on
the
irrigation
side,
it's
actually
better.
H
D
I
That,
yes
and
I
actually
I
was
at
all
the
about
every
few
years
all
the
utility
leaders
from
around
the
state
get
together,
and
we
just
had
that.
A
few
weeks
ago
my
boss,
Steve
class,
wasn't
in
town,
so
I
went
for
him
and
we
met
in
Lubbock
and
it's
a
challenge
for
everyone.
And
can
you
imagine
odessa's
really
slapped,
because
can
you
imagine
trying
to
complete
compete
totally
against
the
oil
field.
I
Yeah
and
yelling
competing
against
the
oil
field
and
they
they
can't
keep
up
we're
competing.
Just
against
you
know
you
can
make
twenty
dollars
now
working
at
McDonald's.
You
know
I
would
rather
work
at
McDonald's
than
they
do
right,
and
so
what
we've
done
is
we
I
I?
Don't
shoot
me
if
I
say
this,
but
we
were
losing
so
many
employees.
We
just
gave
a
10
rated
from
Justin
across
the
board,
but
but
also
what
we've
done.
What
I
wanted
to
mention
is
we
give
incentive
for
licensing?
I
Do
you
get
license?
That's
the
thing
that
the
water
people
have
over.
Other
workers
is
there's
licensing.
So
if
you're
a
wastewater
treatment,
plant
or
water
treatment
plant
operator-
and
you
get
you
know-
you
have
to
start
with
your
D-
you
get
a
C
and
C
is
required
and
a
lot
of
times
you
want
some
jobs.
We
don't
give
you
a
c.
If
that's
a
minimum
requirement
for
that
job
is
to
see
you
don't
get
anything
you
get
a
B,
you
get
another
five
percent,
you
get
an
A,
you
get
10.
I
Still
not
and
that's
the
problem,
we
have
the
other
thing
that
the
state
didn't
or
the
federal
government
didn't
do.
A
favor
for
us
is
the
whole
CDL
thing.
You
know
it's
costing
you
about
five
grand
to
get
someone
with
the
CDL.
You
know
it's
their
training.
Now
we
went
out
and
got
contracts,
but
it's
you
know.
We
train
these
people
up,
we
give
them
CDLs
and
then
they
walk
out
the
door
to
go
drive
to
Walmart,
making
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
correct.
I
I
J
I
G
I
Historically,
paying
our
Master
electricians
31
to
32
dollars
now
so
we
found-
and
we
constantly
looking
for
this
skilled
labor,
and
we
found
this
one
guy.
He
was
working
for
a
water
authority
up
where
Greg
lives,
gbra
I
won't
mention
anything
yeah,
TBR
and,
and
he
came
in
and
I
liked,
and
this
guy
is
good.
We
have
been
looking
for
this
person
for
five
years.
I
Gpi
turned
around
and
offered
him
43.
I'm,
like
I,
can't
compete
with
that.
My
nephew
is
a
journeyman
electrician
for
the
power
company
he's
making
48
bucks
an
hour.
That's
what
the
power
companies
are
paying
I
can't
compete
with
that
I
just
lost
my
best
instrument,
Tech
at
Wastewater,
Plant
to
CPS
Energy
I
can't
compete.
So
it's
the
same
thing.
Water
industry
has
always
paid
a
little
bit
less
and
we
can't
compete.
I
J
I
That's
a
challenge:
I
mean
you
know
what
I
tell
everyone
is
I'm
only
as
good
as
the
person
that
responds
of
it
I'm
only
as
good
as
that,
because
if
that
person
doesn't
respond
and
do
the
right
thing,
I'm
in
trouble
all
right
I'm
only
as
good
as
that
person
in
the
field
now
I
may
sit
up
here
and
talk,
and
you
know
we
have
a
pretty
good
water
system,
I'm,
pretty
proud
of
what
we've
done
but
day
in
and
day
out.
It's
that
skilled
labor
and
that's
a
real
challenge.
I
F
I
G
I
H
A
A
F
A
E
E
A
E
In
stage
one
which
is
voluntary,
the
only
comment
from
me
that
I
wanted
to
say
is
I
need
to
continue
to
keep
this
on
the
front
burner
like
get
people
educated
because
yeah
the
drought's
going
to
happen
again
this
coming
Sunday,
oh
yeah,
it's
here.
We
just
need
to
be
able
to
educate
the
public.
Let
them
know
that
they
need
to
be
wise
on
their
water.
A
E
Could
maybe
do
some
videos
and
share
in
your
social
media
yeah,
and
that's
that's
one
of
the
ones
that
I'm
looking
at
at
the
landscaping
and
look
at
our
tier
structure,
our
rates
because
kind
of
like
what
San
Antonio
is
doing
because
I'm
looking
I'm
trying
to
model
ourselves
after
San
Antonio
to
keep
people
more
informed
and
educate
them
and
then
changing
our
Landscaping
requirements.
Desirescape,
you
know,
promote
xyroscape
and
eliminate
because
all
the
new
homes
that
have
been
built,
what
do
they
have
so?
Obviously
it's
not
interesting.
K
The
thing
the
thing
is:
I'll
tell
you
this
much
Mr
wires
went
to
all
these
departments.
To
put
xeroscaping,
never
got
the
results
from
nobody,
so
he
did
it
himself
and
here
comes
engineering
causing
it's
like
look
man
I
go
you
keep
drop
you
kept
telling
them
over
go
over
here
over
here.
Go
over
here,
don't
talk
to
them
and
he
just
got
tired
of
them.
They
said
hey.
K
K
A
We
haven't
done
anything
to
the
city
council,
so
they
really
don't
think
we're
doing
anything
and
and
I
think
we've
hammered
this
one
before
so.
Let's,
let's
on
the
regressing
back
to
item
eight,
let's
discuss
some
goals
next
meeting
and
and
get
some
things
done
to
take
the
city
council
for
a
vote.
All
right
is.
F
E
What
we're
putting
in
the
meters,
because
we're
not
recovering
our
money
so
what's
happening
is
the
rate
is
payer,
is
paying
for
all
these
new
meters,
so
I
need
to
adjust
our
fees
to
be
actual
cost,
not
what
we
have
already
fixed
it,
because
that
number
mistake
to
say
we're
not
we're
capturing
that
cost.
You
know
so
that
way.
I
can
use
that
money
to
be
used
for
more
to
repair
the
other
licenses.
So
I'm
going
to
be
bringing
that
ordinance
to
show
you,
so
we
can
recommend
that
to
council.
A
K
E
E
A
The
right
item-
12
topics
for
the
next
meeting,
I-
think
we
need
to
talk
about
what,
with
the
presentation
that
we
saw
here
from
San
Antonio,
especially
the
one
of
our
coupons
really
struck
to
me,
is
because
I
made
a
comment
and
Gene
was
sitting
right
next
to
me
and
I
said
you
know,
we
don't
do
it.
We
talked
about
the
no
photos
and
he
said:
oh
no
where's
the
program
that
goes
really
I
thought
it
was
only
20
reasons
to
charge
so
I'll
be
talking
to
Vivian,
but.