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Economic Development Advisory Committee Meeting 021022
A
A
Is
that
it
so
we
do
have
a
quorum.
Anybody
else
who
joins
afterwards
will
be
recognized,
we'll
move
on
to
item
three,
which
is
the
approval
of
minutes
for
december
2021
motion
to
approve
julian
there's
a
motion
by
julius
ii.
A
B
See
her
on,
but
just
to
make
sure
just
for
the
record.
She's
not
present.
D
E
A
Done
we'll
move
on
to
agenda
item
5a,
which
is
a
presentation
update
on
edax
projects,
so
I
basically
just
wanted
to
give
you
guys
an
update
kind
of
on
some
things
that
we
worked
on
last
year.
Welcome
back.
This
is
our
first
meeting
of
the
year.
I
know
that
we
canceled
our
january
meeting.
We
worked
last
year
we
sent
over
the
nec.
A
The
parkland
application
is
something
that
we
reviewed
and
the
sister
cities
plaza.
So
just
for
our
committee
members.
I
know
julian
has
a
little
bit
of
more
knowledge
in
regards
to
the
nec
and
the
apartheid
because
he
works
a
little
more
with
the
building.
So
julian,
I
don't
know
if
you
could
just
kind
of
just
tell
us
where
we're
at.
E
E
I
wish
there
was
just
a
button
that
I
had
on
my
computer,
so
where
we're
at
with
the
parklets
right
now
is
they
are
looking
to
update
it
so
that
it
becomes
an
actual
ordinance
because
right
now,
the
way
it's
structured,
it's
under
the
emergency
order.
E
That's
been
kind
of
put
on
hold
in
the
meantime,
because
the
new
building
director
has
been
restructuring
the
building
department.
So
from
last
time
I
reached
out
that
that
they're
working
on
it,
but
they
have
no
update
when
it
comes
to
the
nec.
E
I
think
it's
no
surprise
to
anyone
here
ever
since
the
change
of
administration,
that's
kind
of
not
gone
anywhere.
At
this
point.
E
Reach
out
again,
once
things
settle
down
so
that
we
can
see
where
we're
at
and
and
move
from
there.
But
I
know
what
we
were
waiting
for
at
the
time
was
an
update
from
legal,
which
they
just
basically
reappointed.
So
so
that
so
at
this,
given
point
I'll,
probably
reach
out
soon
to
see.
If
we
can
schedule
something
with
legal
to
get
past.
That.
A
Yeah,
so,
as
you
all
know,
all
of
you
are
mostly
aware:
there's
been
a
lot
of
changes
in
the
administration,
so
there's
a
lot
of
readjusting
that
needs
to
take
place
and
then
whoa,
we'll
we'll
give
them
some
time
and
then
start
to
touch
base
with
these
projects,
such
as
the
nazi,
the
parklet
and
regarding
the
sister
plaza,
the
sister
cities
plaza
that
was
created
to
incentivize
foreign
micro
investment.
A
I
know
that
cbb
has
taken
it
as
a
project
upon
themselves,
so
I'll
be
talking
to
the
director
which
is
eileen
and
kind
of
just
touching
base
with
that
and
see
how
that's
all
coming
along
and
anything
that
they
need
from
us.
I
know
we
have
great
people
who
are
more
than
likely
more
than
capable
to
help
out
mr
garcia
go
ahead.
C
Yes,
regarding
julian's
update
julian,
let
us
help
you
as
best
we
can.
I
mean
we're,
not
attorneys,
and
I
know
legal
has
to
review,
but
if
you
need
an
extra
meeting
or
or
are
you
scheduling
with
building
and
you
think
we
might
be
of
service,
you
know
we'll
be
glad
to
to
to
join
in,
especially
in
the
discussions
with
the
any
z
we're
glad
to
help
move
that
along.
C
Let
us
know
when
you'd
like
to
schedule
something
and-
and
we
can
help
help
just
help-
you
schedule
it
or
try
to
get
that
meeting
to
move
it
forward.
There
is
a
lot
of
transition,
as
you
mentioned,
so
I
can
see
why
sometimes
things
are
falling
through
the
cracks
right
now,
but
if
but
if
we
can
help,
let
us
know.
A
For
the
record,
I
do
see
that
george
aguilt
just
joined
us
so
we'll
let
the
record
reflect
that.
There's
any
further
discussion,
anybody
that
would
like
to
say
anything.
Anyone
say
man.
F
Mr
duinas,
could
I
recognize
john
v
or
real
lost,
who
was
joined.
A
Perfect,
thank
you
so
much
jim,
I
see
john
via,
has
joined
us
as
well
for
the
record.
Thank
you.
We'll
move
on
to
action
item
6a,
which
is
discussion
and
possible
action
on
the
proposed
economic
development
incentive
agreement
with
unimex,
also
known
as
laredo
logistics
center
llc
under
the
texas
chapter
380
economic
incentive
program.
This
was
brought
by
us
to
our
director
of
economic
development,
tecla
garcia
and
I
do
want
to
go
ahead
and
welcome
anyone
from
unimex
that
is
joining
us
and
also
from
tpa
group
welcome.
A
This
group
is
founded
to
help
support
the
city
of
laredo
and
create
some
economic
development
projects,
so
we're
glad
that
you
guys
are
with
us
today
and
we're
interested
in
hearing
all
the
the
great
opportunities
that
you
guys
have
for
growth.
C
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
before
I
before
I
start,
let
me
also
welcome
our
friends
from
tpa,
adam
david.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us.
Of
course,
you
were
we're
gonna
go
through
winnie
mex
first
and
then
we'll
we'll
get
to
you.
So
if
you
can
hang
on
that'd
be
great
a
lot
fo,
I
think
you're
on
I'm
not
sure
if,
if
bento's
on,
but
adolfo
campero
welcome,
we'll
go
through
this.
C
Your
proposal
here
for
project
and
lastly,
mr
chairman,
I
want
to
introduce
over
my
left
shoulder-
is
miriam
castillo,
who
is
who's
been
with
us
for
about
a
month
now,
she's
working
extremely
hard,
we've
been
keeping
her
extra
hours
here,
probably
working
harder
than
she
ever
did
at
the
chamber
when
she
worked
there,
which
is
a
joke.
I
know
she
worked
much
harder
while
she
was
there,
but
we're
glad
to
have
her.
C
She
brings
a
lot
to
the
table
and
you'll
be
seeing
a
lot
more
of
her,
and
I
want
to
thank
also
the
the
committee
members.
Who've
been
very
supportive
and
I
think
it's
all
of
you
for
us
to
be
able
to
expand
our
staff
and
and
making
it
known
to
the
council
that
we
needed
some
help.
So
she's
the
first
one
of
the
employees
that
we're
going
to
add
so
much
appreciated
and
welcome.
Miriam.
A
Yeah
welcome
here,
we've
been,
we've
actually
been
working
on
on
getting
growing
the
economic
development
department
for
probably
three
years
now
so
we're
excited.
I
mean
it's
one,
it's
one
step,
but
we're
very
excited
that
it's
a
very,
very
highly
qualified
and
great
asset
that
you
bring
to
the
team.
As
soon
as
we
heard
your
name
that
you
were
coming
on
board,
we
all
got,
we
all
got
very
excited,
so
welcome
miriam.
Thank
you,
chairman.
G
Chairman,
can
you
hear
me
this
is
john
viallo
go
ahead,
yeah
just
for
the
record.
I
had
trouble
logging
in,
but
I'm
here
we're.
C
Okay,
so,
to
the
business's
hand,
item
six,
a
unimex.
What
I'm
gonna
do,
mr
chairman,
edac
board
guest
members
is
to
is
to
kind
of
lay
the
groundwork
for
this
project
and
then
go
to
through
a
very
brief
slideshow
to
kind
of
show
you
where
we're
at.
C
But
this
this
project
is
here
now
because
we've
agreed
in
principle
to
the
framework
of
the
of
the
chapter
380
economic
incentive
program
for
unimex
we're
at
the
letter
of
intent
stage-
and
this
is
this-
is
the
presentation
for
you
and
your
consideration
to
recommend
the
project
to
the
city
council.
The
you
know,
we've
been
working
on
this
for
some
time
and
we
believe
it's
a
it's.
C
A
good
beneficial
project
from
here
obviously
would
go
to
the
city
management,
pardon
me
to
legal
city
management
and
and
the
council.
Next,
if,
if
you
know
or
leaving
this
meeting,
the
legal
would
begin
drafting
the
380
agreement
and
it
becomes
a
legal
document
going
forward
so
that
so
it's
important
part
that
we
get
in
front
of
you
and
explain
to
you
what
the
project
is
and
and
hope
that
you
can
see
how
it
is
beneficial
to
laredo.
C
So
with
that
I'll
I'll
go
ahead
and
start,
please
ask
me
questions
as
as
we
go
through
I'll,
be
happy
to
stop
again.
We
have
a
lolfo
campero,
one
of
the
principals
of
of
unimex
here
with
us
and
I'm
sure
he's
able
to
chime
in
whenever
whenever
he
like
it,
mr
compete
at
any
time.
Please
pause
me
if
you
need
to
okay,
so,
okay,
thank
you.
C
C
And
if
this,
if
this
powerpoint
gets
too
fancy
for
you,
blame
it
on
arnold,
you
know
he
he's
really
got
the
powerpoint
thing
down.
So
unimex
is
a
logistics
and
customs
group
providing
specialized
services
to
provide
importers
and
exporters.
Reliable
solutions.
C
C
C
one
key
aspect
here
is:
the
company
would
move,
as
is
his
headquarters.
His
administration
as
administrative
force
to
laredo
from
the
valley,
warehousing
trucking
and
admin
administration
would
take
place
here
in
their
new
headquarters
in
laredo.
C
And,
lastly,
the
this
is
a
a
performance
agreement,
the
380
so
meaning
that
the
the
private
sector
partner
here
has
its
part
to
do
and
must
hit
certain
performance
measures
as
we
go
forward
in
order
for
them
to
receive
the
rebates.
This
is
again
very
strategic
for
us.
We
have
about
a
one
percent
vacancy
for
warehousing
in
laredo,
so
any
new
space
that
can
be
put
onto
the
market,
even
if
it's
just
going
to
be
owned
by
by,
in
fact,
unimex.
Here
that's
important.
C
We
just
need
more
space
period
and
prices
are
going
up.
Mexico
is
not
slowing
down.
They
continue
to
recruit
companies
from
the
us
and
elsewhere
to
to
near
shore
in
mexico.
If
they're
serving
the
us
and
companies
keep
growing
in
mexico,
ford-
and
you
know,
gm
and
and
even
european
companies
like
bmw
and
then
the
aeronautical
aerospace
from
france
is
exploding
in
queretaro.
All
these
put
pressures
on
on
our
bridges
and
us
and
we're
trying
to
meet
demand
here.
C
So
that's
that's
part
of
our
strategic
way
to
move
forward
with
this
kind
of
plan,
and
then
it
also
meets
the
viva
la
radio,
comprehensive
plan
nodes
and
that
it
meets
our
overall
goals
of
providing
access
to
better
paying
jobs,
to
leverage
the
business
incentives.
The
tools
that
we
have
also
to
it's.
It's
one
of
our
target
industries
in
the
plan,
and
there
are
several
other
imperatives
in
inside
the
inside
the
comprehensive
plan
that
this
helps
meet.
C
C
Yes,
a
great
question:
yes
julian
they
are.
This
is
something
that
we
had
discussions
with
this
company
about
unimex
and
they've
been
really
great
to
work
with
their
pain
and
you'll,
see
this
a
little
bit
later
in
the
in
the
presentation,
their
their
average
pay
will
be
about
fifteen
dollars
an
hour.
C
Ninety
percent
of
their
jobs
will
pay
more
than
thirteen
thirty
seven,
which
is
the
living
wage
an
hour
and
as
and
as
you
know,
and
they
know
very
well
that
a
lot
of
these
jobs
are
going
to
end
up
paying
in
the
high
teens
per
hour,
if
not
in
the
20s,
because
of
the
way
wages
are
right
now,
and
so
so
yes
and
they
providing
health
insurance
and
several
other
insurances.
Besides,
just
medical.
C
They're
they
under
our
guidelines,
they
they
can
meet.
80
percent
of
their
more
eighty
percent
or
more
of
their
jobs,
have
to
pay
the
living
wage.
They
they
are
under
the
ninety
percent.
We
settled
on
the
ninety
percent
rule
because
they
have
a
they
have
some.
Then
it's
only
a
handful,
and
I
I
got
the
numbers
for
you.
I
can
show
you
later
or
offline.
Only
a
handful
will
pay
less
than
than
15
than
1337
and
those
will
be
around
12
an
hour.
A
Mr
garcia,
so
we
see
that
there
that
they
check
off
every
box
in
in
regards
to
our
380
agreement
approximately.
How
long
does
it
take
to
for
this
380
process
to
take.
C
C
In
this
case,
we,
the
actual
process,
has
probably
taken
about
120
days,
but
I've
been
talking
to
the
to
mr
campero,
both
the
competitors
and
and
john
vial,
who,
who
highlighted
this
project
to
me
over
a
year
ago,
we've
been
talking
for
more
than
to
finally
get
to
the
point
where
everyone
was
comfortable
and
and
getting
down
to
negotiating
out
an
agreement.
C
So
it
can
be
several
months
to
to
many
months
or
or
a
year,
even
in
in
these
processes,
but
but
this
one
about
120
days
plus,
I
would
like
to
add.
H
That
the
amount
of
time
that
it's
taken
for
us
to
get
to
this
point
is
not.
It
has
not
been
because
of
teclo's
efforts
or
lector
of
I
mean
he's,
been
very
helpful.
It's
more
been
because
we've
been
working
on
the
engineering
of
the
property
and
the
site
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
facilities
would
that
property
would
accommodate,
and
so
really
we've
been
the
ones
that
have
taken
a
while
to
to
get
numbers
to
tackle
in
the
bank
to
get
some
sort
of
plans.
H
And
so
we
finally
got
to
the
point
where
we
had
enough
to
submit
for
platform
approval,
and
at
that
point
we
were
able
to
kind
of
quantify
budget
and
and
go
ahead
and
and
estimate
numbers
as
far
as
what
our
investment
would
look
like
and
what
our
job
growth,
the
forecast
would
look
like.
C
You
know,
thank
you,
mr
campero.
That's
exactly
right
what
he
says,
and
this
is
what
every
company
goes
through
when,
when
you
apply
for
the
program
through
our
application,
there's
several
questions
that
need
to
be
answered.
In
addition
to
that,
we
ask
for
additional
information
as
we're
vetting
the
company
to
ensure
that
we're
not
you
know,
forming
a
partnership
with
with
a
company
that
that
either
doesn't
need
the
incentives
or
is
not
being
quite
transparent,
as
as
they
ought
to
be.
C
So
this
process
does
take
a
while,
and
sometimes
when
you
ask
a
company,
hey
well,
what's
your
first
and
second
year
payroll
going
to
be
that's
something
maybe
that
they
hadn't
put
pencil
to
paper
yet
and
that
takes
a
while.
They
have
to
use
their
consultants
and
their
bank,
like
mr
campero,
said,
and
that
that's
why
it
can
last
four
months
or
maybe
even
longer,.
E
C
Yeah,
no,
that's
a
good
question,
the
the
150
they
would.
They
would
have
five
years
to
get
to
that
150
and
the
first
two
years
they're
going
to
hire
43
in
year,
one
43
in
year
two-
and
I
think,
after
that,
it's
like
15
or
20
per
year
to
get
to
150..
C
So
every
year
we
meet
with
the
with
this
company
on
a
you
know,
annual
basis
and
we
and
review
we
review
and
look
at
their
numbers
for
hiring
and
and
insurances,
and
things
like
that,
and
so
that's
part
of
the
compliance
process
that
comes
on
the
back
end,
that
compliance
won't
start
until
you
know
they
get
their
certificate
of
occupancy
the
year
after
they
get
their
certificate
of
occupancy
to
to
see
where
they're,
at
on
on,
on
their
end
of
the
bargain.
C
Okay,
so
I
mentioned
some
of
these
things
here
on
page
five,
the
economic
incentive
agreements
that,
through
a
chapter
380,
that's
pretty
common
around
the
state
and
it's
a
flexible
economic
incentive
program
that
can
be
used
in
all
sorts
of
ways.
The
ten.
In
fact
this
this
committee
here
approved
our
our
our
guidelines
for
the
380
here
in
the
radio.
The
10-year
course
going
to
be
would
rebate
a
percentage
of
the
property
taxes.
C
We
will
show
you
in
incoming
slides
what
exactly
that
will
be
property
taxes
to
the
firm
based
on
the
valuation
of
the
project,
improvements,
land
and
personal
property,
business
taxes,
the
the
total
36
million
dollar
project
on
50
acres
of
uni,
max
land
off
apartment.
C
The
project
is
going
to
be
on
40
or
50
acres
of
unimex
land,
which
they
own
on
north
mines,
road
across
the
the
highway
from
where
the
pinnacle
that
is
and
we'll
show
you
on
the
map
where
it
is,
but
just
to
give
you
an
idea
where,
where
it's
located,
the
firm
moves,
his
headquarters
to
laredo,
they
retain
125
jobs,
creates
150
new
jobs
and
then
would
add
about
50
crossings
per
week
to
start
with
the
growth
rate
of
about
at
least
three
percent
going
forward
after
year.
One
next
slide.
C
Arnold,
thank
you,
there's
the
location,
mr
campero,
that
doesn't
show
exactly
your
property
line,
but
just
want
to
show
you
the
show
everyone
where
the
the
property
is,
and
you
can
see
mines
road
in
the
middle
there
and
where
u.s
cold
is
and
where
pinnacle
is
and
where
they
would
be
in
relation
to
the
highway.
C
Okay,
this
is
kind
of
turned
sideways,
but
this
is
what
the
developer
or
the
business
owners
submitted
to
us
as
their
plan,
their
project,
their
project
layout,
where
the
warehouses
are
going
to
be
in
their
trucking
center
and
some
of
the
details
of
the
project.
C
For
unimex
logistics,
again,
okay,
so
this
is
the
rebates
here.
This
is
what
we're
getting
down
to
the
nitty
gritty
in
terms
of
of
how
the
city
is
going
to
participate,
go
ahead,
arnold
and
put
those
down
just
if
you
can
try
to
go
through
those
kind
of
there.
You
go.
Thank
you.
C
So
what
we're
offering
in
terms
of
and
what
we've
negotiated
with
with
the
with
the
developer,
is
a
rebate
plan
that
would
provide
them
at
the
end
of
the
day,
as
you
can
see
all
the
years
and
the
and
the
improvements
and
that
the
real
property
tax
rebate
and
the
business
property
tax
rebates
together
would
be
886
949.
C
Now,
let's
keep
in
mind
that
these
are
projections
there's
going
to
be
some
fluctuation
here,
because
we
don't
know
in
year
8
whether
this
city
will
raise
taxes,
seven
percent
or
for
the
latin
land
valuations
will
go
up
eleven
percent
or
whether
they're
going
to
be
down
four
percent.
So,
but
but
given
historical
schedules
and
using
comps
and
other
knowledge.
This
is
our
best
most
accurate
estimate
to
what
the
rebate
would
be
like
for
the
for
the
for
unimex
and
mr
campero.
C
And
this
is
a
10-year
agreement.
You've
seen
some
that
have
been
five
or
eight,
but
we
really
felt
that
we
needed
to
be
aggressive
here
in
order
to
try
to
convince
mr
campero
to
move
his
headquarters
to
to
laredo.
H
On
that
note,
if
I
can
add
that
as
tecla
mentioned
our
headquarters,
our
base
right
now
is
down
here
in
part,
texas
and
there's
a
several
reasons
why
we've
concentrated
our
growth
so
far
and
far
you
know
part
of
it
is
that
you
know
the
property
costs
here
are
a
lot
lower
than
laredo
and
the
proximity
to
monterey,
where
a
majority
of
our
clients
are
located,
is
virtually
the
same
between
here
in
monterrey
and
monterey,
and
we've
gotten
also
a
380
agreement
with
city
of
far
for
our
development
projects,
and
so
we
just
got
a
lot
of
assistance
here.
H
You
know
it's,
it's
a
lot
quicker
and
so
you
know
we've
kind
of
been
channeling
business
away
from
from
our
laredo
facilities
and
over
here
to
far,
but
we
mentioned
to
teclo
that
we
really
would
like
for
laredo
to
be
more
of
a
focus
for
us
and
with
these
incentives,
we're
able
to
bridge
the
gap
a
little
bit
of
what
it
costs
to
operate
in
far
versus
what
it
costs
to
operate
in
laredo.
H
So
we
would
be
we're
really
appreciative
of
all
the
efforts
and
and
of
this
proposal,
because
it
really
helps
us
make
it
viable
for
us
to
be
able
to
route
some
of
these
operations
over
there.
C
Excellent,
thank
you,
mr
campero
yeah.
We
we,
we
really
do,
need
to
be
competitive
in
in
in
that
space
and
yes,
far
as
a
competitor,
the
valley
is
a
competitor,
but
but
so
are
san
antonio
and
and
dfw
and
other
places,
and
even
places
like
seguin,
that
are
strategically
located
on
between
I-10
and
I-35
to
for
some
of
these
distribution
and
finishing
warehouses.
So
we're
very
thankful
for
the
that
that
I
was
able
to
bug
the
competitors
enough
where
they
were.
C
They
were
able
to
listen
a
little
bit,
but
but
no
we're
very
appreciative
of
their
and
of
them,
and
and
it
does
help
their
hard
costs,
for
instance,
on
this
land
are
incredible.
So
so
being
cognizant
of
that
and
other
things.
This
is
why
the
the
number
of
squirts
at
next
slide.
C
So
then,
the
impact
for
the
city
for
the
taxpayers
is
if
we're
gonna
put
the
hundred
percent
on
the
table
for
the
first
five
years
on
on
on
property
taxes.
That
means
the
city
is
only
going
to
benefit
on
the
25
years.
Six
to
ten.
C
If
you
can
see
at
the
bottom
of
the
page,
that's
going
to
be
again
our
best
estimate
about
a
hundred
eleven
000.
You
know
adjusted
for
inflation.
The
10-year
business,
personal
property
tax
at
25,
remember
they're,
giving
they're
getting
75
we're
getting
25.,
that's
about
50
000
for
the
city
over
that
10-year
period
and
then
the
the
10-year
new
bridge
tolls
and
others
and
other
city
revenue,
such
as
retail
sales
taxes
that
would
be
produced
during
which
time
the
the
facility,
the
facilities
are
being
built
for
materials
and
other
costs.
C
C
C
This
agreement
is
also
creating
150
new
jobs
and
that's
not
counting
the
construction
jobs
for
from
the
contractors
and
subcontractors
that
are
going
to
take
place
during
the
construction
phase,
most
of
the
the
new
permanent
jobs.
Again,
they
range
from
15
to
29
dollars
per
hour.
C
There's
going
to
be
a
few
that
are
more
than
that
and
a
couple
that
are
less
and
then
year.
One
payroll
is
going
to
be
about
2.3
million
dollars
a
year
to
payroll.
It's
gonna
be
about
3.1
million
dollars
and
it's
going
to
escalate
from
there.
But
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
example
that
that's
what
kind
of
money
will
be
injected
into
the
economy.
You
know
right
after
they
open
or
even
before,
they're
open,
because
they're
going
to
hire
before
they
open.
C
So
next,
I
think
we're
getting
close
to
the
end
here
on
this
particular
graphic.
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
again
just
to
review
if
you
see
that
first
column
at
the
very
bottom
here
at
their
ad
valorem
avenue
or
property
tax
revenue
for
the
city,
but
it's
gonna
be
a
hundred
eleven
thousand
dollars
first
year
second
year
apartment
and
for
the
first
10
years
right
and
then
bridge
revenue
is
going
to
be
570
estimated,
the
business
personal
property
tax,
we're
estimating
this
by.
C
You
know
what
would
constitute
that
number
based
on
what
the
the
the
the
developer
has
told
us,
the
permits
and
fees
from
from
the
building.
It
could
be
more
than
that.
We're
very
conservative
with
that
number.
It's
forty
thousand
dollars
and
then
retail
sales
tax
from
the
the
the
the
thirty
million
dollars
or
so
of
construction
would
be
about
sixty
thousand
dollars.
C
And
then
your
your
total
direct
revenue
at
the
end
of
the
10
years
for
the
city,
it's
about
831,
000.,
the
next
column
right
underneath
or
the
next
row
right,
underneath
there
is
what
this
agreement
will
bring
over
a
20-year
period
after
the
10-year
ten
years
are
up,
their
agreement
goes
away
and
the
revenue
streams
focus
to
the
city
and
at
that
point
on
all
those
categories.
C
At
the
end
of
the
day
after
20
years,
we're
pretty
we're
projecting
that
the
city
would
would
have
received
by
then
about
two
point:
almost
2.6
million
dollars
from
this
project,
which
is
direct
revenue
again,
not
counting
the
wider
economic
impact
of
of
jobs
and
and
and
other
revenues
that
might
be
created.
I
think
that's
the
last
page
is
that
right.
Arnold.
C
Again,
we're
just
just
to
summarize
we're
retaining
a
major
locally
owned
logistics,
firm
and
trucking
firm
here
at
and
and
125
jobs.
This
is
going
to
be
a
two-phase
project,
but
we're
focusing
on
the
first
page
on
the
first
phase,
the
first
phase
and
the
second
phase
together
is
a
36
million
dollar
total.
C
It's
going
to
create
150
additional
quality
jobs
at
15
an
hour
plus
direct
city
revenue.
As
we
mentioned,
we
just
went
over
those
30
million
dollar
estimated
10-year
employee
payroll
and
then
the
30
million
dollars,
plus
after
the
10
years,
each
you
know
compounding
and
adding
up
each
year
and
then
that
we're
gonna
do
the
we're
gonna,
do
compliance
with
the
firm
to
make
sure
that
all
the
other
numbers
are
being
met.
C
So,
given
that,
mr
chairman,
on
this
particular
project,
we
feel
really
good
about
moving
forward
with
this
particular
project
to
the
to
the
council,
based
on
its
investment
and
and
job
creation.
At
this
point,
I'm
glad
to
field
any
other
questions,
or
maybe
mr
competa
will
be
available
as
well.
To
answer
anything
that
you
guys
would
like
to
ask.
A
A
C
A
Right
rocha
seconded
by
ray
rocha
discussion,
question.
E
H
The
the
numbers
wouldn't
crunch,
it
wouldn't
be
a
viable
project.
Without
the
380.
I
mean
I'm
not
saying
that
we
wouldn't
keep
looking
for
ways
to
make
it
happen,
but
as
of
right
now,
I
don't
know
of
any
other
way
to
make
it
happen.
So
I
guess
the
answer
to
your
question
is
yeah.
This
380
in
is
critical
for
us
to
move
forward
with
this
project
and
your.
A
Headquarters
right
now
are
currently
in
florida.
You
mentioned
right.
Yes,
that's
correct,
perfect,
we'll
call
for
the
question,
all
those
in
favor
all
right,
hi
any
against
none
against.
Mr
biarrial,
do
you
abstain?
I
do.
J
A
So
everybody's
in
favor,
except
for
mr
villarreal,
who
have
stayed
the
motion-
passes,
congratulations,
mr
campero
unimex
and
mr
garcia.
We
wish
you
guys
the
best
on
your
presentation
before
council.
Thank.
H
F
A
comment
please
go
ahead.
First
of
all,
mr
campero.
Thank
you
congratulations.
I
think
you
made
the
right
decision.
The
private
sector
is
looking
forward
to
working
with
you
and
supporting
you
in
any
way
going
forward
with
workforce
with
with
data
with
with
networking,
so
our
services
are
available
also
through
the
ledc.
F
Thank
you,
teclo
great
presentation.
Arnold
great
great
work
there.
I
did
want
to
make
a
comment
that
addresses
julian's
question
just
now
about
the
would
this
project
go
forward
or
not
without
this
incentive?
I
think
it's
a
fair
question.
I
think
there
will
be
some
members
of
city
council
that
will
ask
those
questions
also
for
every
one
of
these
agreements,
but
I
also
did
want
to
make
the
comment
that
we're
continuing
to
send
a
positive,
a
positive
message
to
the
private
sector
that
we're
open
for
business.
F
For
instance,
the
the
tours
that
was
approved
for
majestic
generated
a
lot
of
great
positive
publicity
for
for
our
community
and
and
as
we
continue
to
to
adhere
to
the
guideline
that
was
approved
by
this
committee
and
ultimately
adopted
by
city
council.
It
it
sends
that
positive
message.
I
don't
think
the
answer
for
every
chapter
38
agreement
is
going
to
be
is
going
to
answer
the
question.
No,
I
I'm
going
to
go
forward
with
this
project,
whether
I
get
the
check
or
380
agreement
or
not.
F
I
think
I
think
that's
could
be
the
case,
but
we
need
to
continue
to
send.
I
would
suggest
that
we
need
to
continue
to
send
that
positive
message,
because
because
consultants
and
site
selectors
and
businesses
throughout
north
america
and
the
world
also
will
continue
to
see
that
we're
open
for
business
and
we're
making
an
investment,
that's
going
to
pay
long-term
benefits
and,
and
also
it's
if,
if
a
large
company
is
coming
to
town
and
spending
dozens
or
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars,
we
want
to
make.
F
We
want
to
make
this
process
efficient
and
fast
and
as
user
friendly
as
possible
for
their
next
project,
also
which,
which
may
be
on
the
bubble
we
may
be
competing
with
with
an
eagle
pass
or
or
a
mcallen
or
a
far
or
san
antonio
or
dallas.
So
with
those
comments,
I
I
hope
I
made
some
points.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
And
for
the
record,
that
is,
gene
lindgreen,
who
is
the
director
of
the
laredo
economic
development
corporation.
A
K
So
I
mean
just
to
kind
of
underscore
mr
ronowski's
question
and
mr
campero
answered
the
question
correctly.
You
know,
but
for
this
chapter
380
agreement,
would
your
project
continue
on
and
that's
that's
ultimately
the
test
and-
and
I'm
not
saying
you
were
suggesting
this,
mr
lindman,
but
very
respectfully
in
the
event
that
you
are.
That
is
the.
K
That
is
the
question,
the
threshold
question
that
I
think
we
as
as
members
of
this
committee
and
that,
ultimately,
are
our
city
council
members
are
going
to
have
to
look
the
voters
in
the
eyes
and
say
yeah.
You
know
we
did
this
because
had
we
not
done
it,
the
project
would
not
have
taken
place.
K
It's
not
so
much
a
messaging
that
were
not
open
for
business
or
we
are
open
for
business,
we're
hopefully
transitioning
to
a
message
of
yes.
We
are
open
for
business
and
we're
open
for
smart
business,
we're
open
for
projects
that
you
know
very
neatly
square
with
our
own
chapter,
380
agreement
policy
and
this
one
this
one
squares-
and
so
you
know
we'll
we'll
vote
affirmatively
for
it.
K
But
we
have
to
keep
on
asking
that
question
because
going
back
to
the
majestic
project,
you
know
if
I
could
take
my
vote
back.
I
would
frankly
that
project
was
already
underway.
They
were
already
building
roads,
they
were
already
building
warehouses.
They
were
already
courting
tenants.
K
That
was
a
very
that
is
a
very
well
capitalized
organization
and
they
were
going
to
build
and
go
forward
with
their
project
anyway
and
what
we
broadcasted.
The
message
we
sent
on
that
one
is
that
you
know
laredo
is
just
I
guess,
desperate
to
do
a
in
that
instance,
and-
and
I
think
that's
something
that
we
need
to
take
a
a
closer
look
at
you
know.
Good
good
judgment
comes
from
experience
and
experience
often
comes
from
bad
judgment,
and
so
we
took
the
majestic
on
the
chin.
A
We
actually
have
another
presentation
from
tpa,
so
I
think
the
majestic
project
is
long
gone.
This
one
was
on.
Unimex
was
already
voted
for.
So
if
we'll
just
wrap
up
our
comments,
george,
and
so
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
presentation.
The
next
discussion
item
maybe
excused
yeah.
Okay,.
D
C
C
Yes,
okay,
great,
I'm
sorry,
I
do
that
every
time
you're
on
mute,
and
so
this
is
the
approach
to
this.
This
particular
presentation
for
this
project
will
be
the
same
as
the
previous
one.
The
projects
are
not
the
same,
but
just
the
process
is
similar
and
we
want
to
use
the
powerpoint
to
bring
that
to
your
attention.
C
So
let
me
introduce
again
adam
and
david,
who
are
on
the
phone
with
us
with
tpa
group
and
they've
got
a
very
exciting
project
here
to
to
bring
to
laredo.
C
This
is
a
project
that
the
laredo
edc
and
the
private
sector
kind
of
worked
on
together
and
and
brought
to
the
attention
of
of
the
economic
development
department,
so
gene.
Thank
you
very
much
for
working
with
adam
and
and
and
david
and
and
the
real
estate
brokers
who
were
involved.
We
appreciate
you
bringing
it
to
this
to
this
point.
C
What
we
did
here,
mr
chairman,
when
when
the
laredo
edc
does
some
of
the
front
end
work
on
on
these
kind
of
projects,
but
what
we
do
is
we
mainly
has
been
me
in
the
past,
but
now
with
miriam
and
and
arnold
more
engaged,
you
know
we
we
do
the
math
and
then
we
start
helping
to
to
negotiate
this
project
where
everyone
is
happy
and
and
the
needs
for
the
city
are
being
met
as
well.
C
So
that's
that's
how
this
sort
of
worked
out
so
adam
david,
I'm
gonna,
go
ahead
and
start
on
on
this
and
kind
of
go
through
it
y'all
jump
in
when
you
feel
necessary.
If
I
miss
something
or
you
think
something
needs
to
be
recovered
and
again
with
the
with
the
advisory
committee
y'all,
can
you
know
stop
me
to
ask
a
question
whenever
you'd
like
so
a
little
bit
on
tpa
group
or
pardon
me,
let's
go
to
the
let's
go
to
the
let's
go
to
the
table
of
contents.
C
Here
really
quick
again
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
company,
we're
talking
about
our
strategy,
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
project
itself,
the
economic
impacts
and
then
we'll
do
the
summary.
C
So
tpa
is,
is
a
a
solid,
very
reputable
company.
That's
done
business
across
the
country,
primarily
in
in
real
estate
and
developing.
You
know:
multi-uh
multi-business,
business
of
park,
building
business
parks,
industrial
parks,
a
lot
of
warehousing
distribution
centers
across
the
country,
they've
got
a
they've,
got
a
huge
portfolio
stretching
from
florida
to
california,
up
to
the
northeast,
we're
very
proud
to
to
to
get
involved
and
and
potentially
have
them
as
a
partner
in
helping
laredo
develop
and
also
to
create
more
industrial
space.
C
Next
page:
okay,
thank
you,
arnold!
So
the
strategy
going
forward
again,
we
have
a
project
here,
that's
a
100
million
dollar
project,
the
the
firm
projects
up
to
940
new
full-time
jobs.
Now
just
to
be
clear
tpa
in
this
particular
case.
They
are
building
the
buildings.
C
They've
bought
the
land
they're
building
the
buildings,
but
then
they
will
lease
the
buildings
and
those
tenants
would
bring
in
those
jobs
I'll
get
more
on
that
later
with
you,
this
is
a
class,
a
distribution
center,
but
from
what
we've
seen
and
what
I'm
going
to
show
you
by
all
accounts
on
grade
a
space.
What
we
would
like
to
see
in
here
see
here
in
laredo,
almost
a
million
square
feet.
C
The
largest
building
has
almost
half
a
million
square
feet
now.
This
is
really
important,
because
we
have
not
seen
that
here
in
laredo,
except
on
rare
occasion.
I
think
jamco
recently
bought
killem
building,
that's
about
500,
000
square
feet
and
and
majestic
who
was
mentioned
earlier,
they're
beginning
to
build
large
buildings
too.
C
But
this
is
where,
in
a
space
where
we
have
not
been
competitive
with
the
houstons
and
the
dfw's
in
large
spaces,
and
sometimes
single
users
want
one
large
space,
we
have
lost
a
couple
of
clients,
who've
asked
for
300
000
plus
feet
and
they
needed
asap.
Well,
that's
just
not
going
to
happen.
We
don't
have
it
our
market's
too
tight
and
then
we
just
don't
have
those
kind
of
buildings,
but
with
with
tpa's
entry
into
the
market,
we've
received
even
more
interest
from
other
folks
wanting
to
build
this
size
of
facility.
C
So
we're
happy
to
to
welcome
tpa
in
with
this
kind
of
proposal.
Again
this
is
a
chapter
80..
If
you
can
go
back
really
quick,
arnold,
I'm
sorry
just
to
hit
that
last
point.
Just
like
the
other
project.
This
is
a
chapter
380
performance
agreement
and,
of
course,
the
the
developer
has
to
meet
certain
points
in
order
to
receive
the
the
rebate
that
we're
proposing.
C
Also,
this
is
strategic
again
we
need
the
space
and
two,
it's
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
economic
development
chapter,
and
it
meets
a
lot
of
those
points
as
well
go
ahead.
Arnold,
thank
you.
C
The
the
project
proposal.
Again,
the
chapter
380
economic
incentive
performance
base.
It's
a
10.
This
will
be
a
10-year
agreement
as
well.
This
is
a
100
million
dollar
project.
C
This
is
the
largest
project
that
laredo
has
ever
done
a
380
with
in
terms
of
its
value
and
then
the
it's
on
it's
on
about
70
acres
off
I-35
in
the
unitec
area
and
the
project
will
serve
as
a
district
distribution
facilities
in
the
mix
of
you
know,.
E
C
Load
and
crosstalk
configurations,
three
warehouses,
all
together
and
they're.
Gonna
have
different
clients
and
they're
gonna
be
right
on
35.
this.
This
makes
it
a
very
valuable
piece
of
property.
C
The
the
tpa
group
project-
you
can
see
the
location
there
on
your
right,
just
I-35
going
north
and
south
carriers
drive,
which
right
now
only
goes
to
the
right,
as
you
can
see
there,
into
the
unitec
area
and
onto
majestic
on
the
left-hand
side
on
the
west
of
I-35.
Is
it?
Is
the
area
that's
getting
developed?
You
can
see
a
little
bit
further
to
the
left
is
where,
like
ups
ground,
apartment,
fedex,
ground
and
charger
logistics
and
so
forth
are
further
to
the
left.
C
C
Go
ahead,
oh
no!
Thank
you.
C
C
Looking
east
behind
me
is
west
and
35
is
going
north,
north
and
south,
and
this
is
where
primarily,
they
could
be
located.
As
you
can
see
the
developer.
The
way
that
the
department,
the
the
business
park
developer,
paved
the
streets-
and
this
is
the
the
trend
going
forward
is-
is
all
the
all
the
intersections
are
being
cemented
and
usually
the
the
rest
of
the
street
is
not,
but
that's
where
the
key
problems
are
here
in
the
in
the
intersection,
so
we're
glad
to
see
cement
there.
That's
gonna
go
a
long
way.
C
Again,
here's
the
the
fiscal
economic
impact
of
ferret-
this
is
a
fiscal
impact,
as
you
can
see
here
what
we
did
and
came
to
an
agreement
with
the
developer,
based
on
the
based
on
the
investment
from
the
laredo
apartment
from
the
from
the
developers,
as
we
just
went
down
the
middle
in
a
kind
of
true
partnership
with
the
the
property
tax
rebate
on
on
this
particular
property.
C
At
the
end
of
the
day,
adjusted
for
inflation,
the
10-year
total
for
the
the
rebate
would
be
1.1
million
dollars
or
1.2
million
dollars,
like
I
said,
give
or
take
you
know
an
error
rate,
or
you
know
that
are
adjusted.
You
know,
for
other
things,
that's
what
it's
going
to
be
about
after
after
10
years,
and
that's
only
if
you
think
about,
if
you
think
about
it.
This
way,
that's
only
one
percent
of
their
overall
project.
C
What
they're
going
to
invest
into
the
ground
before
one
job
is
created,
they're
only
going
to
get
one
percent
back
and
so,
but
again
with
hard
costs
being
significant.
This
is
this
is
this
is
something
that
they
could
really
use,
and
we
understand
that
so
the
city
would
get
the
same
in
terms
of
the
first
10
years,
be
1.167
or
1.2
million
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
revenue.
I
think
you
went
the
other
way.
Arnold,
oh
no!
C
You
know
you're
right,
you're,
right,
you're,
right,
okay,
so
and
that's
what
it
would
be
like
for
the
city,
it's
the
same
as
the
as
the
as
a
as
a
as
the
business
as
tpa
group
go
ahead
on
the
next
page,
so
on
our
chart,
as
we
can
see
again
just
to
explain
everybody,
the
first
10
years
that
ad
valorem
taxes
are
1.167,
we're
estimating
that
from
the
materials
and
subcontractors
and
so
forth
that
are
used
in
the
city.
C
The
retail
sales
taxes
from
that
100
million
dollar
project
will
be
about
150,
000
permits
and
fees,
maybe
about
100
grand
and
that
revenue
for
the
city
that
the
first
10
years
we're
being
somewhere
around
1.4
1.5
million
dollars,
then
for
the
whole
20
years,
once
the
agreement
goes
away
after
10
and
and
all
the
revenue
ships
back
to
the
city.
C
The
city
would
receive
about
4
million
dollars
in
revenue
after
the
first
20
years
and
so
we'd
like
it,
you
know,
but
you
know,
based
on
its
merits.
One
thing
I
want
to
point
to
you
very
quickly,
even
though
the
just
so
you
know
that
the
city
of
laredo
is
using
our
staff.
Gene
did
his
part,
but
in
terms
of
doing
the
math
and
everything
that
we've
done
here,
we
use
city
of
laredo
funds
for
that.
C
However,
if
you
look
in
that
brown
box
to
the
right
of
the
chart,
that's
how
much
the
school
districts,
the
school
district,
united
isd,
webb,
county
and
laredo
college
are
going
to
receive
during
the
10
years,
but
just
to
remind
everybody,
it's
the
city
of
laredo.
That's
doing
the
economic
development
efforts
here,
but
that's
the
windfall
that
they
get
from
our
efforts.
C
Okay,
next
page
again,
just
in
summary,
this
is
a
state-of-the-art
facility-
we're
proud
to
be
working
with
them
in
a
partnership
to
create
this
court
of
sort
of
space
for
the
market.
It's
a
100
million
dollar
project.
We
don't
walk
around
saying
that
kind
of
stuff
every
day
here
the
developer
is
estimating
940
jobs
created
by
these
developments.
C
The
10-year
direct
revenue
for
the
city
1.5,
as
I
mentioned,
and
then
four
point,
and
the
and
or
four
four
and
a
half
million
dollars
and
20
years,
the
nearly
and
that's
just
direct
evidence
revenue,
that's
not
mentioned,
including
the
wider
economic
impact,
with
jobs
and
and
and
several
other
factors,
nearly
one
million
dollars.
Probably
one
million
square
feet
addresses
a
shortage
and
it
tries
to
handle
the
explosive
growth
that
we're
dealing
with
and
and
then,
of
course,
the
compliance
aspect
is.
C
We
will
meet
with
the
developer
on
an
on
an
annual
basis
to
make
sure
that
the
the
all
aspects
of
the
agreement
are
being
met.
E
H
C
I'd
like
to
mention
here
very
quickly
is
that
what's
not
included
in
here
is
the
the
clients
of
tpa
that
are
going
to
take
this
space.
So
if
they
have,
you
know
multinational
companies
that
come
in
here
and
create
hundreds
of
new
jobs
and
have
a
lot
of
inventory
that
personal
business
property
tax
is
something
that
we
can't
account
for
now,
because
we
don't
know
what
the
company
who
the
company
is
coming
in.
C
So
you
can
expect
you
know
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
more
per
year
for
the
city,
along
with
other
economic
impact
factors
that
will
also
help
this
project
help
the
city
of
laredo,
not
just
a
direct
camera
revenue.
So
with
that,
mr
chairman,
I'm
I'm
finished
with
the
regular
presentation.
G
C
The
the
tenants
can
come
in
for
chapter
380,
but
the
tenants
will
be
leasing,
so
they
wouldn't
get
a
real
property
tax
rebate.
They
they
don't
own
the
property,
they
can't
get
it.
We
wouldn't
give
it
to
them.
They
can
ask
for
a
business
personal
property
tax
rebate,
which
is
something
that
tpa
is
not
getting,
but
the
tenant
get.
A
Okay,
first
us
typed
in
in
the
chat,
has
the
new
city
manager
approved
this
yet.
C
Spoken
with
him
about
it
and
I'm
recommending
pro
the
project
to
him,
and
so
he
has
not
approved
it
yet.
But
it's
the
council
who
gets
a
approval
in
the
end
and
not
the
the
city
manager.
E
C
E
C
Well,
it
said
that
build
is
warehouse,
but
but
let
me
explain
if,
if
tpa
group
does
not
build
what
they
say,
they're
going
to
build,
let's
say
they:
they
decide
somewhere
through
this
project
that
they're
only
going
to
build
50
of
what
they
said
and
when
it
comes
compliance
time
we
go
and
look
to
see
what
they
built
and
it's
not
there
or
the
valuations
are
way
off.
Then
then
we
would
sit
down
with
tpa
to
try
to
figure
out
a
way
forward
with
that
they
have
to.
C
E
C
The
tenants
have
their
their
part
and
that's
the
employment
part
and
the
and
the
business
personal
property
tax.
If
we
decide
to
enter
in
some
sort
of
an
economic
incentive
with
the
tenants
that
will
be
separate
from
this.
A
C
Would
be
a
separate,
a
totally
separate
agreement
with
the
tenant?
If
we
decided
to
do
that-
and
I
would
come
back
to
y'all
with
that
particular
agreement
with
xyz
company
who
says
we're
gonna
hire
200
people
at
20
bucks
an
hour,
then
they
would
be
responsible
for
that
for
the
facilities.
C
That's
that's
tpa's
responsibility
and,
if
they're
the,
if
the
assessment
on
their
facility,
because
of
their
doing-
and
I
would
never
suggest
that
this
would
happen-
dia,
david
and
adam-
I'm
just
you
know,
creating
a
scenario
and
they
didn't
live
up
to
their
investment
and
it
was
30
below
what
we
we
thought
it
was
going
to
be.
Then
we'd
have
to
have
a
a
conversation
about.
How
do
we
get
back
to
what
the
agreement
says.
E
Well
so
mr
dewine
is
what
he's
laying
out
is
that
there
is
no
guaranteed
creation
of
jobs
in
this.
What
we
would
be
agreeing
to
is
is
giving
a
chapter
380
for
them
to
build
this
and
that's
it,
so
any
of
those
tenants
can
do
whatever
they
like
when
it
comes
to
what
they
decide
that
being
health
insurance
or
no
health
insurance
or
a
livable
wage
or
not
level
wage.
This
is
completely
separate
from
that.
G
C
F
Mr
chairman,
can
I
make
a
comment?
Go
ahead,
gene
again,
I'm
gene
lindgren
president,
ceo
of
the
laredo
economic
development
corporation.
We
partner
with
the
city,
but
we
are
the
private
nonprofit
organization
who
has
a
staff
plus
a
membership
and
a
board
whose
main
job
is
to
attract
and
promote
and
create
investment
in
jobs.
F
Lot
of
our
activity
is
fielding
rfis
and
rfqs
for
prospective
companies
and
site
selectors
that
are
looking
for
for
industrial
space.
We
have
like
techno
mentioned
earlier.
We
have
been
out
of
the
running
for
several
opportunities
over
the
last
year
because
we
have
nothing
to
offer,
and
so
I
would
suggest
that
this
is
an
important
project
that
the
city
subsidizes
through
a
tax
rebate
and
still
has
a
win-win,
because
we
don't
have
anything
to
offer
when
companies
are
calling
us.
F
C
The
the
developer
has
built
roads
for
that
a
particular
business
park
that
would
connect
to.
I
forget
the
name
of
the
street.
That
goes
the
main
street
that
goes
in
front
of
charger
and
and
fedex
ground,
and
is
it
westway
or
something
like
that?
I'm
not
sure,
and
then
that
then
this
facility
also
connects
to
the
access
roads
of
I-35
around
the
unitec
area,
north
of
north
north
of
or
south
of
where
the
truck
stops
and
and
and
and
denny's,
and
all
that
is
so
out
of
that
congestion.
C
They
trucks
can
get
on
35
going
south
directly
from
this
development
to
the
streets
that
the
developer
built.
C
My
my
my
first
is
connation
and
I
didn't
do
a
traffic
analysis,
that's
for
the
developers
and
the
engineers
to
do,
but
I
think
there's
sufficient
access
in
and
out
for
that
particular
development.
There's
also
one
more
out
that
they're
going
to
have
on
carriers
once
that
gets
finished,
mr
dominguez,
so
yes,
the
the
answer
is
yes
to
that.
C
K
380
policy
have
a
livable
wages
and
health
insurance
component
to
it.
C
It
is
if
you're
hiring
employees
you're
right,
you're
exactly
right.
It
does
they're,
not
hiring
permanent
employees.
They're
sim
they're
building
the
warehouse
they're,
the
investor
here,
they're,
building,
warehouses
and
and
leasing
the
warehouses.
I'm.
K
Not
aware
of
our
chapter
380
policy
being
designed
for
just
construction,
I
thought
it
had
to
do
my
understanding
is
it
has
to
do
with
paying
a
living
wage
and
the
health
insurance
component.
C
No
you're
right,
you're,
right
george,
but
but
that
is
for
new
permanent
full-time
employees,
not
for
construction
employees,
for
temporary
employees
and
and
so
they
don't,
they
won't
have
full-time
employees
once
they
get
their
certificate
of
occupancy.
They
won't
have
full-time
employees.
There
yeah.
C
It
does
it
does
cover
it.
Mr
algot,
it
it
says
that
if
there's
a
significant
investment
for
building
only
for
construction
that
is
allowable
under
the
380
policy,
that
we've
had
that
we
have
that
the
city
council
adopted.
E
Mr
garcia,
my
concern
with
this
project
is
that
I'm
as
a
commercial
broker
myself,
you
you
build
these
warehouses,
they
get
leased
in
a
second
there's
rates
have
gone
through
the
roof.
I
don't
see
why
this
project
wouldn't
move
forward
if
it
wasn't
for
this
incentive,
if
it
had
possibly
an
agreement
attached
to
it.
That
referred
to.
You
know
those
tenants,
and
this
is
more
on
the
difficult
side,
but
I
think
this
is
where
this
is
going
at.
C
C
Here's
here's
the
issue,
though
we're
not
building
this
size
of
warehouse,
nor
are
we
receiving
100
million
dollar
investments
and
in
our
guidelines
we
talk
about
applying
our
380
guidelines
to
unique
projects,
and
so
this
is
a
unique
project
in
my
mind
that
it's
it's
building
one
million
square
feet
and
one
full
one
fell
swoop
instead
of
fifty
thousand
or
a
hundred
thousand,
and
we
haven't
had
that
before.
C
C
That
sort
of,
I
guess
attention
in
terms
of
the
employees
if,
if
mr
diaz
and
adam
here
were,
were
hiring
full-time
employees
permanent
full-time
employees,
you
would
bet
you
can
bet
that
I
would
require
them
to
meet
those
living
wage
requirements
that
we
have
and
by
the
way
they'll
go
up
this
year
in
2022
mit
will
come
out
with
their
new
survey
and
my
guess:
it'll
be
around
fifteen
dollars
an
hour.
E
I
I
think,
I
think,
with
I'm
not
saying
you
can't
be
a
little
more
creative
on
this.
I
just
think
it's
really
early
on
and
a
very
basic
proposal
right
now.
Just
on
that,
we
heard
the
same
thing
about
the
majestic
deal
that
you
know
over
hundreds
and
thousands
of
square
feet.
I'm
not
sure
I
feel
comfortable
moving
forward,
so
I
would
I
I
don't
want
to
say
that
we
should
not
approve
this,
but
I
do
think
we
can
attach
some
more
stipulation.
C
Saying
wait
hold
on
before
you
motion
the
table.
Second,
and
I
think
george
needs
to
be
heard.
First,
sorry.
K
George
yeah,
just
real
quick,
I'm
looking
at
section
1.2
general
eligibility
criteria
for
economic
incentives,
and
one
two
bullet
points
in
is
the
creation
of
high
wage
and
quality
jobs
or
large
number
of
jobs.
And
so
I
mean
I
think
this
is
a
great
project.
I
think
there's
great
people
involved
in
the
project,
but
I
echo
mr
rodnovsky's
concerns
is
that
we're
not
checking
that
box
in
our
own
chapter
380.,
but.
C
That's
only
one
aspect,
mr
alkyl.
If
you
look
further
into
the
agreement,
you
can
see
where
this
this
this
this
project
does
qualify
for
one
as
well.
Sorry
to
interrupt
george,
I'm
sorry
about
that.
K
Man,
it's
I'm
not
seeing
I'm
not
hearing
about
the
the
the
quote:
creation
of
high
wage
and
quality
jobs
for
a
large
number
of
jobs,
and
I
would
I
would
love
to
hear
about
it
and
then
you
keep
going
a
little
bit
deeper
in
and
it
talks
about
the
under
2.0
minimum
living
wage
and
so
that
that
all
hasn't
been
mapped
out
here.
And
can
I.
C
Get
arnold
to
pull
up
the
the
the
get
the
guidelines,
please
arnold.
What
mr
oakville
just
is
commenting,
so
I
can
point
out
what
I'm
looking
at.
I'm
sorry.
K
I'd
like
this
I'd
like
to
see
that
please
I'm
looking
at
it
right
here,
but
if
you
have
it
where
you
can
put
it
up
in
front
of
the
committee
and
then
you
can
walk
us,
we're
gonna,
try.
J
Yeah
this
is
carlo
milano.
By
the
way,
I
don't
have
a
screen
right
now,
but
I
hope
you
guys
can
hear
me.
J
Thank
you
thank
you
for
for
having
us,
so
I
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment,
which
is
you
know
just
generally
speaking
and
benefit
for
for
laredo.
While
you
guys
pull
up
this
information
and
discuss
the
fine
details,
we
represent
tpa
group.
You
know
we
met.
We
met
this
group
some
months
back
and
it's
been
a
year
in
the
working
and
they've
shared
with
us.
What
they're
building
across
the
nation
they
didn't
have
a
reason
to
come
to.
J
Laredo
honestly,
I
mean
they're
building
over
15
million
square
feet
across
the
nation
and
we
encourage
them
to
come
and
consider
building
in
laredo
and
not
only
not
only
did
they
are
they
willing
to
do
that,
but
they're
helping
us
and
here
collaboratively
helping
laredo
stay
on
the
map.
It's
important
that
you
all
understand
that
laredo
is
now
the
most
expensive
industrial
market
in
the
state
of
texas.
J
J
Why
would
a
company
consider
laredo
if
they
have
alternatives
right?
Yes,
I
mean
you
got
to
cross
a
product
of
your
coming
from
mexico
back
and
forth,
but
they
also
don't
need
to
stop
right
on
the
border
they
hire.
You
know
a
freight
company,
they
can
move
it
and
continue
going
to
different
cities.
So
I
just
want
you
to
keep
this
in
mind,
because
these
incentives
help
us.
J
J
Let's
get
back
on
the
table,
so
I
just
wanted
you
to
understand
this,
and
I'm
very
glad
all
of
you
guys
are
here
on
the
table
very
methodical
and
analytical.
But
it's
important
to
get
the
big
picture
here
and
and
and
understand
that
this
is
this,
that
we're
helping
ourselves
right
by
by
giving
an
incentive
like
this
to
a
development
developer
like
tpa.
I
K
Either
they're
either
in
compliance
with
the
our
policy.
Our
policy
either
means
something
or
it
doesn't,
and
I
just
put
up
on
the
chat
that
specific
section
there
in
our
policy
it's
under.
K
If
you
keep,
if
you,
if
you
go
to
three
point,
I'm
sorry
4.0
eligibility
criteria
for
projects
under
c
to
be
considered
for
a
chapter
380
grant
a
project
must
commit
to
a
minimum
investment
of
at
least
10
million
and
and
the
creation
I
think
it
says,
and
or
and
or
the
creation
of
at
least
30
new
full-time
jobs
with
with
the
city's
living
wage
requirements.
K
So
you
know
I
and
to
arturo's
point
I
mean
it's
like
okay.
Well,
I
mean,
are
we
gonna,
you
know
yeah
bend
the
rules
or
are
we
gonna
stick
to
them?
Well,.
C
I
hear
what
you're
saying
I
got
a
couple
of
things
to
just
to
mention
very
quickly
mr
ogilt,
mr
dominguez,
so
it
says
to
be
considered
for
the
the
chapter
380.
As
you
said,
mexico,
and
you
read
and
number
c
there
and
it
says
and
or
the
creation
right
it
doesn't
say.
Both
right
doesn't
say
that
you
have
to
have
both.
C
So
that's
one
point:
let's
go
down
to
the
other
section,
arnold
that
we're
talking
about
the
uniqueness
of
the
of
the
so
here
at
the
bottom
as
well.
That
was
in
that
was
in
the
policies
by
the
asterisk
projects
may
also
be
considered.
If
the
city
council
determines
that
the
venue
will
make
a
unique
or
unequal
contribution
to
the
comm
to
the
economy
or
if
the
project
is
expected
to
have
10
million
dollars,
an
added
value,
real
property
and
or
business
personal
property
combined
with
at
least
30
jobs.
C
There's
another
part
in
our
in
our
guidelines
that
keep
going
down.
Arnold,
let's
see,
keep
going
well,
you
know
no
I'll.
Take
it
go
up
a
little
bit
to
special
considerations.
City
council
may
waive
certain
incentive
requirements
if
the
business
project
is
a
company
that
will
locate
a
primary
or
regional
headquarters
to
laredo
is
a
tech
firm
which
thank
you
julian.
We
put
that
in
there
research
our
development,
business,
professional
services
or
teaching
medical
facility
that
will
create
multiple
high-paying
jobs,
wages
and
benefits
rules,
however,
still
apply.
C
So
the
expansions
again
that
you
know,
there's
there's
lots
of
scroll
down
a
little
bit,
keep
going
now
we're
in
the
application
process.
C
So
given
given
that
language
in
in
their
number
c
and
the
special
considerations,
I
think
that
this
project
does
bring
a
unique
value
to
to
laredo
and
as
the
economic
development
director
having
a
100
million
dollar
investment
into
the
community
to
me,
checks
that
box
and
that's
why
I
will
recommend
it
to
you
as
an
edac
committee,
and
I
will
also
recommend
it
to
the
city
manager
and
the
city
council
as
something
that
they
should
consider.
A
There
is
a
motion
on
the
table.
There
is
a
second,
I
don't
think
there's
any
further
discussion.
I
think
we
should
move
for.
The
call
in
order
to
the
motion
was
to
table
it
all
those
in
favor
to
table
the
items.
E
A
D
B
I'll
go
down
the
list
here
on
the
squares
first,
one
arturo
dominguez.
I
B
B
That's
five
in
the
affirmative,
john
biarial
negative.
It's
two
in
the
negative
andre
rocha
negative,
the
negative,
mr
chairman,
with
with
the
tally
being
five
four
and
three
against.
D
A
Motion
is
tabled
yeah,
it
has
been
tabled
so.
E
C
I'll,
let
the
developer
chime
in
here
very
quickly
but
in
the
developer's
plans,
and
it
was
also
in
our
powerpoint.
They
project
that
and
it
won't
be
their
employees,
but
they
project
that
about
940
jobs
will
be
created
from
this
development.
C
So
if,
if
a,
if
xyz
company
shows
up
and
says
hey,
we
want
to
pay
our
guys
12
bucks
an
hour
tpa
can't
can't
enforce
that.
That's
not
their
guys!
So
that's
the
issue.
That
is
why
that's
out
of
tps
control-
and
we
would
form
that,
though,
with
that
company,
if
that
company
applied
for
for
a
discount
or
a
rebate,
we
would
do
that
with
that
company.
L
Hey
you
hear
me
now:
yes,
sir
yeah,
no
thank
you.
I
don't
want
to
be
repetitive
on
a
thank
you
all
for
for
allowing
us
to
come
in
front
of
you
and
present
the
project
carlo
touched
on
it.
But
you
know
when
we
do
these
industrial
leases,
they
are
triple
net
leases
and
said
the
tenants
are
the
ones
receiving
the
ultimate
benefit,
as
they
are
the
ones
ultimately
who
have
the
financial
responsibility
for
these
property
taxes.
L
L
Obviously,
while
we
own
the
land
right
now
we're
responding
to
certain
rfps
from
tenants
who
are
looking
to
come
into
town,
and
so
every
time
we
developed
across
the
country,
kansas
city,
el
paso,
tucson,
you
know
we've
seen
that
having
these
incentives
has
allowed
us
to
be
more
competitive
and
in
el
paso
we're
going
through
it
right
now,
where
we've
got
requirements
in
the
southwest
region.
L
With
these
incentives
in
place,
you
know
these
tenants
are
looking
at
their
all-in
real
estate
costs
and
if
the
rent
is
seven
dollars
a
foot
per
year
and
their
operating
expenses
are
two
dollars,
a
foot
being
able
to
say
well
your
property
taxes.
Instead
of
being
a
dollar,
it's
gonna
be
50
cents
they're,
comparing
their
options.
Do
I
go
to
el
paso?
Do
I
go
to
phoenix
with
these
incentives
in
place?
L
L
We
are
going
to
bring
construction
jobs
if
we
decide
to
develop
these
three
buildings,
but
ultimately
it
is
the
tenants
who
will
bring
the
permanent
jobs
and
when
we're
making
these
decisions
with
with
construction
costs
and
how
they've
risen
drastically.
L
You
know
it's
a
risky
investment
to
invest
this
type
of
capital,
and
so
we
can't
just
assume
that
there's
a
hundred
percent
chance
that
we're
going
to
lease
these
buildings
up,
we
have
to
assume
we're
going
to
have
to
carry
them
for
a
little
bit
of
time,
while
they
do
get
leased
up
and
obviously
having
an
abatement
in
place
for
those
tax
years
where
we
don't
have
income
from
from
tenants
just
helps
us
on
our
math,
and
so
we
we
appreciate
your
time,
we'll
think
of
ways
to
get
creative
understand
the
concerns
just
wanted
to
chime
in
and
and
say
that
and
add
them
all
together.
A
Regarding
the
construction,
how
do
you
guys
go
about
that?
Do
you
guys
bring
in
contractors
from
other
cities?
Are
you
guys
going
to
look
for
local
contractors?
How
exactly
would
the
that
work,
because
you're
you're
bringing
in
these
jobs,
but
are
those
jobs
local
or
are
you
bringing
in
people
from
out
of
town.
L
Both
options
right
now
and
I
actually
I
work
more
on
the
asset
management
side
leasing,
adam
dewer
is
our
development
director,
so
he
may
be
able
to
explain
in
detail,
but
we
have
both
local
and
regional
options
for
general
contractors.
We
don't
have
in-house
general
contractor,
and
so
yes,
we,
we
do.
L
Third
party
on
leasing,
carla
milano
with
forum
represents
us
and
we
will
bring
in
a
third
party
gc,
including
local
option
that
we,
you
know
we're
in
discussions
right
now,
but
yeah
we,
like
I
mentioned,
we
haven't,
made
a
decision
to
go
vertical
yet
so
we
do
not
have
a
general
contractor
selected.
Quite
yet.
C
Mr
chairman,
I
also
wanted
to
mention
one
last
thing
I
should
have
said
this
before
and
I
just
wanted
to
regarding
mr
rognoski's
participation
in
this
agreement.
He's
a
commercial
real
estate
developer,
so
I
wasn't
sure
if
it
was
appropriate
for
him
to
participate
and
vote
on
this
item
just
for
conflict
of
interest.
I
just
wanted
to
bring.
K
G
G
G
G
E
K
E
E
And
you
make
this
whole
committee
look
bad,
because
what
you're
trying
to
do
is
get
what
you'd
like
out
of
this
and
if
you
don't
like
it,
you're
going
to
tell
john
or
I
that
we
can't
vote
through
an
opinion
that
you
have.
You
have
no
understanding
of
my
holdings.
I
have
to
say
before
I
join
this
committee
any
time
that
I
may
have
a
conflict.
That
is
my
duty.
That's.
E
A
Take
these
we'll
take
these
I'll.
Take
these
recommendations,
george
appointment
of
order,
we'll
take
these
comments
into
recommendation.
I
think
it's
our
our
responsibility
as
well
to
do
our
due
diligence
in
in
terms
of
conflicts
of
interest,
so
we'll
move
on
to
our
last
action
item
with
that
being.
K
Said:
item
up
for
next
council
for
our
next
meeting
to
have
a
ethics,
training
and
a
description
of
what
conflicts
are
and
what
they're
not
and
what
the
best
protocol
is
for
bringing
this
sort
of
information
to
light
so
that
we're
not
having
to
field
these
bombastic
accusations.
A
Mr
chairman,
6c
discussion
and
possible
action
regarding
requesting
a
liaison
from
staff
to
work
on
items
requested
or
passed
by
the
committee
and
any
other
matters
relating
or
pertinent
to
this
was
brought
to
us
by
our
vice
chair,
julio
ronowski.
E
E
E
What
I
don't
think
just
me,
but
other
individuals
are
looking
for
on
this
committee-
is
someone
that
can
follow
through.
I
know
a
lot
of
the
confusion
with
all
these
chapter
380s
is.
E
We
do
have
an
economic
development
strategy
or
comprehensive
plan
on
this,
but
when
it
comes
to
being
able
to
value
these
projects,
not
just
for
dollar
to
dollar,
but
quality
of
life
and
the
other
aspects
that
we're
supposed
to
be
measuring
in
we
keep
kind
of
failing
at
that,
and
furthermore,
I
know
huge
item
that
we
approved
last
year
was:
let
me
pull
it
up
was
regarding
sorry.
I
had
them
all
here
at
the
cluster
analysis
that
never
really
went
any
anywhere.
E
So
I
guess
my
motion
is
to
request
from
the
economic
development
department
to
to
to
at
least
give
us
one
individual
liaison
that
we
can
communicate
with,
so
that
there's
never
a
question
of
who
we
should
speak
to
and
and
at
least
there
will
never
be
any
conflicts
of
of
when
it
comes
to
who
we
should
have
spoken
to.
Regarding
so.
A
So
I
stand
behind
you
regarding
this.
Regarding
this
this
item,
however,
we
can't
instruct
staff
directly.
I
do
I
do
agree
with
you
that
there
has
been
a
lot
of
stuff
that
has
been
approved
here,
that
we've
passed
that
we've
worked
on
and
we
don't
see
it
come
up
to
the
council
agenda.
So
I
did.
I
did
go
ahead
and
start
asking
people
and
making
some
calls
and
real
came
to
the
realization.
I
was
informed
that
this
is
posted
on
friday's
report.
Correct
mr
garcia.
C
If
there's
a,
if
there's
a
recommendation
from
this
council,
you
know
we,
we
are
probably
this
council
this.
C
We
put
it
on
to
the
friday
report,
like
the
parklets
or
or
the,
for
instance,
the
the
re,
the
revising
of
the
comprehensive
plan
and
I've
even
spoken
to
some
council
members
about
the
revising
of
the
of
the
the
plan
that
that
you
that
this
committee
recommended,
which
I'm
also
in
favor
of
we
haven't
seen
that
being
put
onto
the
agendas
and
mr
alkyl
is
here
with
us,
and
sometimes
he
knows
that
that
friday
report
can
get
voluminous
and
sometimes
maybe
those
items
aren't
being
seen
directly
by
council.
C
D
C
Communicate
that
to
your
to
your
council
member,
because
you
know
sometimes
they're
not
reading
the
reports
that
we
we
probably
send
up
and
I'm
not
saying
that
that's
the
reason
I'm
saying
that's
one
of
the
reasons
yeah.
A
But
yeah,
so
the
communication
would
be
good.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
as
of
now
and
under
you
all's
direction,
and
it's
part
of
of
what
council
directs
you
guys
to
do.
You
are
already
putting
it
every
every
friday
in
the
report
that
our
motions
are:
are
there
and
you're
giving
that
to
to
council
members,
whether
they
read
it
or
not?
It's
up
to
them.
A
So
it
is
important
and
imperative
of
us
that
we
constantly
communicate
with
with
the
the
council
members
that
we
represent
as
well
and
letting
them
know
that
reminding
them
what
was
passed
and
basically
telling
them
hey
this.
This
was
approved
on
on
this
week's
edax
agenda.
Make
sure
you
guys
get
it
up
there,
that's
about
as
much
as
I
think
that
we
can
do.
This
is
open
for
discussion.
So
if
anybody
else
wants
to
jump
in
and
just
yeah.
K
I
would
I
would
just
echo
what
teklo
said
and
your
observations,
mr
duinas,
as
well,
that
you
know
a
large
part
of
what
is
contained
in
the
friday
packet
is
very
much
overlooked.
K
If
not
read
at
all,
because
you
know
your
average
council
member
is
trying
to
basically
sip
water
through
a
fire
hydrant
and
it's
the
volume
of
information.
That's
being
doused
upon
them
is
very
difficult
to
process,
and
so
I
think
you
know
you
all
and
I'm
happy
to
go,
and
maybe
we
should
all
just
kind
of
like
draw
straws
like
hey
this
council
meeting
is:
is
yours
missing
on
this?
You
know
just
go.
K
Give
the
quick
report
from
the
last
go
around
next
time
it
shifts
over
to
to
john
or
just
so
that
we're
you
know
letting
letting
them
know
that
this
committee
is,
you
know
not
some
sort
of
rubber
stamp
for
staff
and
that
we
have
a
collective
conscience
of
our
own,
and
these
are
the
matters
that
they
should
look
into.
I
think
that
that
falls
on
us
in
being
squeaky
wheels
because,
let's
be
real,
honest
council
members,
I
mean
in
light,
think
about
this.
K
Last
week
alone
I
mean,
in
light
of
all
of
that
I
mean,
do
you
think
they're
really
going
to
be
taking
the
time
to
go
through
whatever
tecla
reports
on
what
we
talked
about?
There's
too
much
other
drama
going
on,
but
we
need
to
be.
We
need
to
be
more
proactive
on
our
end
for
sure
I'll.
C
A
We
appreciate
the
department
stepping
up
it's
just
like
julian
said
it
kind
of
feels
like
nothing
is
being
done,
but
but
we
we
came
to
the
realization
that
you
guys
are
definitely
putting
in
the
work.
It's
just
it's
a
lot,
so
we
definitely
need
to
be
in
communication
with
our
council
members,
letting
them
know
what
what
is
going
on
in
edac
as
well.
C
Now,
just
very
quickly,
mr
chairman,
going
back
to
the
the
agenda
altogether.
You
know
if
this,
if
this
committee
does
does
not
recommend
something
or
does
recommend
something
or
table
something
you
know
I
I
still
would
take
it
to
council
and
say
hey.
They
didn't
recommend
this
project,
but
I
you
know,
I
recommend
it
or
they
did
recommend
it
or
they'll.
Ask
me
hey
well
where,
where
was
the
economic,
the
edac
committee
on
this
and
I'll
say?
Well,
they
didn't
recommend
it
or
or
tabled
it
or
whatever.
C
Now
I
could
still
do
that.
I'd
rather
resolve
the
question
that
mr
mr
julian
asked
and
try
to
get
that
done
for
the
next
meeting.
You
know
so
everyone
can
be
get
behind
this
project.
I
still
believe
in
it
and
stand
where
I,
where
I
wasn't
previous,
but
just
to
let
you
know
as
an
advisory
committee.
You
know
I
still
have
the
option
to
do
that.
E
A
J
G
A
Thank
you
so
much
to
everyone.
I
don't
know
if
ledc
is
still
on.
Yes,
we
are
gene.
Thank
you
for
for
joining
us
today,
all
those
in
favor
to
to
adjourn
hi
all.