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A
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C
B
I'd
like
to
ask
a
before
I
start
with
my
presentation,
I'd
like
to
ask
the
point
of
order
or
a
point
of
procedure
at
the
City
Council
level
and
I
brought
this
to
you
before
at
the
City
Council
level.
The
mayor
and
the
council
allows
us
to
speak
in
public
comments
if
we
want
to,
or
if
we're
talking
about
an
agenda
Adam,
they
will
allow
us
to
wait
and
talk
when
that
agenda
item
comes
up.
So
my
comments
are
on
an
agenda
Adam
for
this
evening.
B
A
B
D
E
B
You
all
right,
honorable
chairman
and
commissioners,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
David
Cardwell.
Speaking
from
being
the
vice
chair
of
the
first
epics
Commission
I
applaud
this
commission
for
your
forward
thinking
to
review
the
Code
of
Ethics.
The
time
is
right
for
a
thorough
review,
seeking
input
from
the
citizens
and
then
presenting
your
recommended
changes
to
the
City
Council
for
action.
Please
do
not
be
concerned
whether
they
will
or
will
not
accept
your
recommendations
and
the
input
from
the
citizens
do.
B
The
right
thing
present
needed
ethical
changes
in
good
faith
for
the
benefit
of
our
citizens.
It
has
been
said
that
ethics
is
moral
principles.
It
is
a
system
that
defines
right
and
wrong
and
provides
a
guiding
philosophy
for
every
decision
made.
I
would
apply
this
statement
to
every
decision.
Our
City
Council
officials
and
employees
make
right
now
I
believe
this
Commission
should
prepare
and
recommend
an
ethics
code
revision
that
will
restore
public
trust
that
the
city
of
Laredo
will
operate
under
the
highest
ethical
standards.
B
The
final
revised
document
that
you
present
to
the
City
Council
will
serve
as
a
key
step
in
restoring
public
trust
in
our
city.
Government,
as
you
consider
changes
to
the
ethics
code
within
your
commission
and
from
the
input
from
your
town
hall
meetings
with
citizens.
Please
ask
yourself
these
questions
number
one:
how
can
we
strengthen
the
ethics
code
to
inspire
public
trust
in
city
government
and
require
that
city
officials
and
employees
be
honest,
accountable,
impartial
and
responsible
to
citizens
number
two?
B
How
can
we
strengthen
the
ethics
codes
that
the
public
cannot
be
used,
so
the
public
office
cannot
be
used
for
personal
gain
and
city
government
decisions
and
policy
be
made
in
a
proper
and
transparent
manner?
Number
three:
how
can
we
strengthen
the
ethics
code,
so
our
city
government
will
be
a
role
model
for
top-notch
ethical
behaviors
for
other
communities
to
follow
and
number
four.
B
How
can
we
transition
to
an
Ethics
Commission
that
will
be
a
quasi
judicial
board
with
a
budget
staff,
legal
support,
appointed
members
with
term
limitations
and
totally
independent
from
the
City
Council
and
city
administrations?
There
are
ethics
commissions
in
other
cities
that
are
like
that
bottom
line
to
be
an
effective,
Ethics
Commission,
your
job
is
not
to
work
for
City,
Council
or
city
administration.
It
is
to
work
for
the
citizens.
B
I
have
been
in
your
seat
and
I
have
confidence
that
you
all
have
the
skills
and
expertise
and
experience
necessary,
along
with
the
input
from
the
public
to
formulate
and
present
rock-solid
recommended
changes
to
the
ethics
code.
That
will
make
it
clear
that
the
primary
function
of
the
city
government
is
to
serve
the
best
interests
of
the
citizens,
not
special
interest
groups.
I.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
come
before
you
and
I
hope
that
you
will
follow
that.
B
F
F
Ethics
should
set
standards
about
work
activities,
business
relationships
and
the
use
of
city
resources
that
apply
to
all
city
employees,
elected
officials
and
members
of
City
boards
and
commissions.
The
proper
operation
of
any
City
government
requires
a
strong
code
of
ethics
as
a
foundation
implemented
and
enforced
by
the
most
qualified,
diverse
group
of
citizens
that
serves
on
an
Ethics
Commission.
We
don't
need
a
symbolic
Commission.
We
want
a
commission
with
the
power
to
keep
her
violations.
F
It
also
allows
the
city
auditor
to
hire
an
independent
investigator
to
look
into
complaints
filed
against
City,
Council
members,
their
staff
or
City
the
city
manager,
and
to
a
further
investigation
to
the
ethics
Review
Commission.
The
new
Ethics
Commission
should
provide
external
oversight
of
the
city,
government
and
elected
officials
and
enforce
ethics
laws.
The
new
ethics
code
should
include
laws
related
to
campaign,
finance
contribution
limits
and
public
financing
of
campaigns.
The
Austin
City
Code
has
limitations
on
campaign
contributions
and
expenditures.
F
No
candidate
for
mayor
or
city
council
and
his
or
her
campaign
committee
shall
a
safe
campaign.
Contributions
in
excess
of
$300
per
contributor
per
election
from
any
person
no
candidate
and
his
or
her
committee
shall
accept
a
total
contribution
of
more
than
330
thousand
per
election
and
20
thousand.
In
the
case
of
a
runoff
election,
a
small
donor
political
committee
shall
not
contribute
more
than
$1,000
per
candidate
per
election
for
the
offices
of
mayor
and
city
council.
The
new
ethics
code
should
include
training
local
officials
on
ethics
and
ethics
laws
in
the
city
of
Dallas.
F
The
Commission
also
created
two
committees:
tasks
with
specific
goals
to
aid
the
Commission.
In
becoming
more
effective
committees,
the
Committee
for
Ethics
awareness
for
public
complaint
and
ethics
training
committee
to
establish
an
ethical
City
environment
through
in
continuous
ethics
training
sessions
for
the
city,
officials
and
employees.
In
this
Dallas
code
of
ethics,
e
ethics,
Advisory
Commission
has
the
following
powers
to
review
and
dispose
of
sworn
complaints
to
conduct
investigations
of
violations
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
ethics.
F
Advisory
Commission,
the
exes,
the
Ethics
Commission
shall
have
the
power
to
issue
subpoenas
for
the
attendance
of
witnesses,
production
of
documents
and
other
evidence
that
the
city
that
the
ethics
Advisory
Commission
deems
necessary
for
any
evidentiary
evidence
hearings.
This
is
a
quote
from
the
from
charge.
Harley
people
that
run
course,
public
office
need
to
understand
that
they
are
running
for
a
position
of
trust.
A
position
of
Public
Integrity
power
tends
to
corrupt
and
absolute
power
corrupts
absolutely
Lord.
John
Acton,
and
it's
this.
D
D
B
To
do
it
effectively
and
do
it
in
a
very
open
public
way
and
transparent,
I
would
probably
say
90
days
and
it
would
not
have
to
go
to
the
voters.
You
take
it
to
the
people
in
town
hall
meetings.
Then
you
hold
meetings
where
the
people
could
attend
as
you
go
through
it,
then
you
present
it
to
the
City
Council
in
the
City
Council
right.
There
will
accept
what
you
present
to
them
or
reject
it
or
modify
it
if
it
had
to
go
to
the
voters.
That
would
be
a
totally
different
thing.
B
You've
got
eight
districts
in
the
town.
If
you
want
to
be
really
effective.
There's
nine
of
you
up
here
beside
the
chairman.
He
represents
a
mayor.
I'd
say
you
need
a
town
hall
meeting
in
each
of
the
eight
districts.
That
would
be
eight
meetings.
So,
if
you
had
eight
meetings,
try
to
maybe
do
two
meetings
a
week.
I
think
that
I
think
it's
doable
and
by
doing
this
you're
telling
the
people
we
are
being
transparent.
We're
seeking
your
input.
The
ultimate
decision
will
be
made
by
the
City
Council,
but
you
as
a
County
Commission.
C
C
B
To
say
no
more
than
and
I
serve
them
the
first
two
years
of
it
I'm
thinking,
maybe
I'm.
Guessing
eight
could
be
six
years.
It's
been
here,
but
you
really
got
to
remember
how
it
got
here.
If
you
would
bear
me,
I'd
like
to
answer
that
with
that
all
right,
the
citizens
wanted
an
Ethics
Commission.
The
city
did
not
have
one.
It
went
to
the
voters,
the
voters
passed
at
the
ballot
box.
They
passed
that
we
will
have
an
Ethics
Commission
in
the
city.
B
Okay,
city
administration
did
not
go
forth
with
the
wishes
of
the
people
until
a
lawyer
walked
right
up
here
by
the
name
of
George
I'll,
get
he
threatened
to
sue
the
city.
If
you
don't
create
the
Ethics
Commission
that
was
voted
in
and
the
city
did
within
30
days
set
you
guys
up
and
I
was
on
the
first
one.
We
were
on
the
first
one.
B
There
was
a
commission,
there
was
a
committee,
a
separate
committee
set
up
and
I.
Believe
you,
a
Worldnet
original
committee
there
and
Tomas
is
Aguirre
and
some
others
correct.
There
was
a
group
of
citizens
that
created
the
code,
but
it
was
the
city,
never
implemented
it
until
a
threat
of
a
lawsuit.
That's
when
they
implemented
it.
B
Did
it
have
flaws?
Let's
say
it
this
way,
I
believe
the
word
you
might
have
used
was
symbolic.
Did
you
use
that
word?
Okay,
I
believe
the
code
of
ethics
was
set
up,
maybe
was
forced
and
it
was
symbolic.
It
has
some
teeth,
but
it
is
not
strong
enough.
Your
role,
in
my
opinion,
is
to
be
oversight
of
city,
council
and
city
administration.
Remember.
B
So
that
to
me,
elevates
you
to
a
quasi
judicial
board
and
there
are
quasi
judicial
boards
in
this
community,
one
of
them
being
the
appraisal
review
board
and
by
the
way
they
get
paid.
So
I
would
even
change
my
speech
now
and
say.
If
you
create
a
quasi
judicial
board,
you
should
be
paid
every
time
you
come
here
and
meet
because
you're
doing
a
service
for
US
citizens,
you're
the
oversight
you're
going
to
be
making
major
decisions
to
improve
our
community
and
bring
public
trust
back
yeah.
E
E
G
C
G
G
G
B
Comment
on
that
would
be
number
one.
It's
still
it
has
to
be
this
right
here.
First,
you
have
got
to
get
into
your
position
of
an
oversight.
Then,
if
step
number
two
could
be
that
Officer
you
talked
about,
but
if
you're
going
to
have
that
officer,
that
officer
has
to
report
to
you
not
to
the
City
Council,
not
to
city
administration,
but
this
right.
Here's
got
to
be
done.
First,
yes,
okay,.
F
So
I
was
doing
my
research,
of
course,
for
the
ones
that
I
saw
a
lot
of
was
Austin
and
Dallas.
Austin
did
mentioned
that
they
took
a
year
and
a
half
to
pass
it
through,
but
since
Austin
we
don't
have
to
take
that
long
because
they
already
set
the
example.
So
it
was
Austin
in
Dallas
that
has
a
lot
of
good
ideas
of
oversight
and
they're
using
like
what
he
quit.
You
all
were
saying
an
auditor
to
go
directly
to
you
guys.
F
Instead
of
reporting
like
if
there's
an
issue
they
were,
the
auditor
will
go,
I
have
like
eight
pages
of
it,
but
I
have
to
shine
it
up
to
report
to
you
guys,
instead
of
going
to
City
Council,
and
it
was
an
independent,
it
was
independent,
like
everything
was
in
Dallas
in
Austin.
That
I
saw
that
day
took
a
year
and
a
half
and
I
have
all
those
notes,
but
I
have
to
shorten
up
for
for
these
purposes,
but
there
you
have
it
complete
and
it
wouldn't
like
he
said
it
would
not.
F
E
F
B
In
my
research
and
looking
at
other
cities,
if
you
create
the
quasi
judicial
board,
you
hire
the
attorney.
The
attorney
works
for
you
and
you
pay
that
attorney
by
the
hour
when
you
call
that
attorney
in
so
you
won't
be
looking
to
the
city
for
any
support
other
than
them,
giving
you
a
budget
and
one
Ethics,
Commission
I,
think
at
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
budget,
pretty.
F
B
Think
this
is
a
giant
step.
That's
needed
in
city
of
Laredo
we're
looking
at
everything,
that's
going
on
we're
trying
to
find
the
city
manager
we're
talking
about
our
lifeline
of
the
bridges
and
everything
else.
We're
looking
at
we've
had
three
city
managers
in
the
last.
How
many
years
we
paid
out
1.5
million
dollars
in
the
parachutes
right
here
the
buck
or
two
stop
right
here:
here's
where
it
can
be
control
of
that
this
right
here
very.
H
D
At
what
you
said
trying,
to
paraphrase
into
my
mind,
the
actual
ordinances
that
we
have
already
most
of
them,
probably
wouldn't
change
okay,
but
what
would
change
is
how
we're
appointed
and
who
and
who
can
oversee
what
we
in
fact
come
up
with.
In
other
words,
if
we
say
Mary
Jane's
got
to
go
to
jail
or
to
the
legal
people
prosecute,
then
that's
it
you're
not
going
to
be
they've
dreamed
or
second-guessed
or
whatever
by
a
political
body
above
us.
D
So
really
we're
looking
at
trying
to
get
the
city
to
believe
in
the
idea
that
we
were
even
if
we
were
appointed
by
the
City
Council
once
they're
appointed,
they
cannot
be
appointed.
They
can't
fire
us,
but
thankfully
I
don't
know
how
we
do
it,
but
whatever
appointment
we
do
and
we
then
can
oversee
everybody.
Is
that
what
you're
saying.
B
D
B
D
H
H
E
A
A
E
D
Just
like
to
get
the
that
particular
one,
while
we
have
a
fresh
we're
talking
about
put
the
bed
nets.
What,
as
what
we're
going
to
do?
Okay
and
I
personally
have
a
recommendation
that
we
need
to
meet
separately
along
ourselves
to
see
what
we
think
we
need
to
do
to
organize,
how
we
want
to
get
the
data
from
other
places,
how
we
want
to
do
the
Open
Meetings
thing
with.
A
A
D
A
A
Yes,
one
of
the
issues
I
understand
speaking
not
just
with
mr.
Horford,
but
others
is
trying
to
get
some
ideas
about
how
our
ethics
ordinance
compares
to
some
of
the
other
ordinances
around
Texas.
We
had
some
speakers
today,
dr.
pang
and
mr.
Carter
will
identified
specific
municipalities
that
have
ordinances
that
have
a
bit
more
autonomy.
E
Okay
and
I
did
hear
those
cities
mention
I,
do
have
a
couple
of
I
guess
comments
to
it.
Just
so
you
all
have
the
information
again.
You
know
I
would
reiterate
that
the
the
ethics
code
was
created
by
ordinance,
so
any
changes
would
be
by
ordinance,
which
means
anything
is
subject
to
approval
by
council.
E
Also
that
this
the
city's
code
of
ethics
was
in
fact,
modeled.
If
you
will,
after
a
municipal
code
of
ethics.
So
that's
what
that's,
how
I
guess
it
came
to
be
that
was
used.
There
are
some
differences,
but
it
is
essentially
the
same
as
the
model
code
for
municipalities,
the
City
Attorney's
Office
has
done
a
research
and
considered
a
making
changes
to
the
proposals.
E
And
so
what's
going
to
happen
is
that
the
revision
that
is
on
the
agenda
to
that
ordinance
is
to
require
that
all
current
city,
officials
and
employees
shall
complete
ethics,
training
at
least
once
a
year,
and
so
and
then
the
other
revision
is
to
make
it
clear
that
it's
the
ethics
compliance
officer
that
will
oversee
or
provide
that
training.
Now
it
could
be
by
let's
say
another.
E
You
know
you
know
we
would
contract,
possibly
with
another
entity,
to
provide
that
another
I
guess
you
know
lawyer's
office
or
something,
but
those
are
some
of
the
changes
that
are
up
there.
So
I
wanted
to
make
it
clear.
You
know
to
all
of
you
sort
of
what
you
know
that
and
then
the
other
thing
I
think
it
is
important
to
look
at
the
ethics
ordinance
and
under
Section
eight
points.
E
Oh
three,
it
does
set
out
what
the
powers
are
of
the
Ethics
Commission,
and
so
those
are
the
powers
that
you
all
have,
and
so
regarding
the
changes
which
is
set
out
in
section
10.
It
says
that
the
Commission
shall
have
jurisdiction
to
investigate
and
make
findings
no
powers.
The
Ethics
Commission
has
a
power
to
and
number
10
to,
prepare
an
annual
report
and
to
recommend
to
City
Council
needed
or
desirable
changes
in
ordinances
under
its
jurisdiction,
and
the
way
that
has
been
interpreted
is
that
those
changes
would
come
through
in
that
annual
report.
E
So
just
so
that
we're
you
know
kind
of
all
on
the
same
page.
Regarding
these,
you
know
the
ordinance,
and
so
those
would
be
some
of
the
comments
and
I.
Don't
have
not
to
say
that
we
couldn't
get.
You
know
copies
and
you
all
on
your
own
can
also
mean
those
things
are
all
public
record
that
you
all
could
take
a
look
at
those
and
then
come
back
and
put
something
on
your
agenda.
You
know
to
have
considered
or
you
discuss
something
with
the
mayor
if
you
so
choose
to
do
so.
I
hope
that's
helpful.
E
C
E
A
D
G
G
G
E
And
each
of
you
are
appointed
by
a
particular
council
member
or
the
mayor
in
mr.
Venus's
case,
and
nothing
would
prevent
you
all
from
contacting
the
person.
You
know
the
council
member
who
appointed
you
and
saying
this
is
what
I
want
to
do.
They
can
put
something
on
the
agenda
under
one
of
their
items.
E
D
Get
five
votes
against
it.
We
can't
do
diddly-squat,
so
we
want
to
go
through
this.
Just
as
a
general
group,
oh,
come
up
with
our
recommendations
and
then
present
them
to
this.
One
of
us
can
present
them
in
front
of
the
disc
and
agenda
item
and
sign
up
for
it
and
put
it
on
the
one
of
the
meetings
and
we
one
of
us
come
up
saying
we're
the
exit
committee,
and
this
is
the
changes
we
would
like
to
see
happen.
D
A
H
Because
I
know
a
lot
of
people
say
well,
they're
gonna
change
it.
How
are
they
going
to
change
it?
We
don't
know
it's
like
the
City
Council
changed
one
of
the
ordinance
to
where
the
city
can
accept
gifts
to
this
date,
I've
never
seen
the
entire
reading
of
it.
Yes
has
any
of
y'all
I
have
none,
so
you
know
the
people
are
saying
well.
Are
they
changing
for
the
better
change
for
the
worst?
We
need
to
be
out
there
so
that
people
can
see
what
we're
doing.
G
E
H
A
H
D
The
biggest
thing
is
these
are
kind
of
questions
that
are
great,
but
we
need
to
get
together
first,
yeah,
yeah,
okay,
before
we
and
discuss
those
kind
of
things,
because
we
have
some
data,
we
need
to
know.
We
got
to
know
what
these
other
yeah
things
do,
and
then
we
got
to
decide
on
what
what's
legal
Oh
in
the
open
meeting
or
a
town
hall.
These
are
all
things
we
got
to
come
up
with
before
we
answer
your
question:
okay,
okay,
in.
C
The
words
of
mr.
Castillo
set
up
the
mechanism
yep.
D
C
A
G
A
G
A
Go
ahead
and
call
the
meeting
back
into
open
session.
Time
is
31
back
from
the
executive
session.
No
action
was
taken,
go
ahead
and
call
up
the
item
again.
It's
5b
discussion
with
possible
action
on
the
presentment
of
an
ethics
report.
Pursuant
to
section
2.1,
one
of
the
city
of
Laredos
code
of
ethics,
unrelated
relating
to
conduct
by
city
employees,
do.