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CITY OF LAREDO ETHICS COMMISSION MEETING 071421
A
A
A
C
I
mean,
I
suppose,
that
he
could
speak
during
public
comments
if
he
would
like
to
reserve
his.
E
E
I
really
didn't
want
him
to
go
and
help
me
in
rolando
because
of
the
dangers
over
there,
but
he
insisted-
and
he
he's
still
there-
there's
there's
not
that
many
people
going
to
church
now,
there's
about
40
50
people
that
go
to
church
on
sundays
over
there.
E
E
He
he
had
an
accident
where
he
lost
his
left
arm.
E
He
was
coming
from
a
christian
christian,
junior,
high
school
middle
school
and
my
three
sons
or
my
three.
It
was
hector
lee
delilah
and
robert
robert
has
already
passed
away.
They
were
all.
E
E
A
One
arm,
mr
patina,
just
let
you
know
he
had
a
three
three
minute
time
gestation,
it's
just
about
done.
If
you
can
just
wrap
up,
please
I'm
I'm
going
to
wrap.
E
So
that's
why
I'm
here
I
love
my
son
and
I
wish
that
you
all
would
be
considerate
with
him,
and
I
appreciate
the
time
that
you've
given
me
to
speak
on
his
behalf
or
say
a
few
words
and
I
always
pray
for
my
city,
my
country,
and
for
all
of
you.
Thank
you.
God
bless
you.
Thank
you.
A
F
A
Promotion
passes.
Okay.
Next
item
is
item
4a
evidentiary
hearing
with
possible
action
following
a
report
made
pursuant
to
section
2.11
of
the
city
of
laredo's
code
of
ethics
pertaining
to
the
actions
of
hector
lee
patino
in
his
representation
of
north
american
industrial
park,
including
the
applicable
possible
violations
of
division.
Five
lobbyists
of
the
city
of
the
radio
code
of
ethics.
C
Yes,
good
afternoon,
commissioners.
C
Officer
in
this
case
we
do
have
we
do.
We
do
know
that
you
were
provided
with
evidence
with
the
documents
that
are
relevant
to
this
case.
I
believe
they
are
all
in
the
binary
before
you
of
particular
importance
is
supplemental
information
that
was
provided
by
council
member
vanessa
perez.
She
is
here
present
today
and
I
believe
her
testimony
would
be
relevant
to
the
decision
making
process
for
today's
hearing.
C
So
if
you
all
would
like
to
hear
from
her
and
ask
her
any
questions,
she
is
present
and
you
all
may
proceed
as
as
you
all
wish.
A
Okay,
so
then,
council
members
will
go
ahead
and
proceed
you'll,
be
justifying
this
announcement.
A
G
Thank
you.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
all
for
taking
the
time
out
of
your
schedule
to
be
here
and
hear
this
that
the
city
has
brought
forward.
Here's
a
witness
and
also
have
facts
in
the
case
which
I'd
like
to
present
for
you,
I'm
here
as
council
member
for
district
7..
G
Part
of
this
whole
thing.
That's
particularly
concerning
to
me,
is
just
everything
that
I've
had
to
go
through
as
a
council
member,
a
new
council
member.
This
has
been
happening
since
january
12th,
of
which
I
got
elected
and
sworn
in
on
december
30th
of
the
2020.
G
So
this
has
really
affected
my
ability
to
do
my
job
and
be
a
good
public
servant
for
the
rest
of
my
constituents,
because
ever
since
that
day,
it's
just
it's
been
one
thing
after
another,
with
this
request
and
this
lobby
that,
hopefully
the
facts
will
come
before
you,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
kind
of
understands
how
how
what
happened
and
if
I
can
kind
of
just
walk
through
what
happened.
If
that's?
G
Okay,
that's
fine,
okay,
so
the
I
did
include
a
sequence
of
events,
which
was
some
links
to
some
videos
that
interviews
that
mr
patino
went
on
to
his
father's
radio
show
and
they
were
kind
of
talking,
but
this
all
happened
afterwards.
So
I
kind
of
want
to
talk
about
what
happened
before.
G
So
he
basically
reached
out
to
me
on
january,
12th
and
told
me
that
he
wanted.
You
know,
congratulations
for
winning
and
and
that
he
wanted
to
talk
to
me
about
a
project,
and
I
said
the
same
day.
I
replied,
I
said
sure,
and
so
I
provided
that
the
text
messages
to
you
all
in
in
the
evidence,
and
so
I
took
a
meeting
with
him.
I
I
don't
have
the
exact
date
here
on
when
exactly
I
met
with
him.
G
G
They
were
his
clients
and
that
he
was
at
you
know
at
the
time
he
was
saying
that
he
was
advocating
for
a
project
which
involved
the
wanting
the
city
to
come
in
and
provide
trash
removal
services
of
a
dump
that
they
had
uncovered
in
the
development
process,
and
so
he
basically
told
me
that
that
was
going
to
be
about
50
000
worth
of
expenses
that
the
company
did
not
have
and
because
it
was
a
city
landfill
at
one
time
they
wanted
the
city
to
then
take
the
trash
and
pay
all
costs
with
provide
the
trucks
and
then
waive
all
the
trash
fees
at
the
landfill.
G
So
I
said:
okay,
well,
you
know,
let's
let
me
go
ahead
and
look
at
it
look
into
it.
So
then,
after
that
I
went
ahead
and
and.
G
Spoke
to
the
people
in
the
city,
I
had
my
assistant
reach
out
to
environmental
services,
reach
out
to
basically
everybody
about
this
project,
and
then
I
found
out
that
this
was
a
long-standing
process
or
a
request
that
had
existed
for
years
at
the
city
level,
and
so
then
I
said,
okay.
Well,
I
need
to
really
look
into
this
right,
like
what's
all
the
background.
What
is
all
of
this?
At
the
same
time,
I
I
was
looking
into
it.
G
My
assistant
messaged
me
at
one
point
and
said:
hey
mr
patino
keeps
messaging
me
that
he
kept
you
know,
hey
how's
it
going
what's
the
status.
What's
the
status
like
keeping,
you
know
trying
to
like
what's
going
on
right,
so
I
said:
can
you
please
let
him
know
that
I'm
still
researching
I'm
still
looking
into
it
and
even
at
the
earliest?
If
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
do
anything,
it
wouldn't
be
able
to
go
on
to
the
agenda
until
march,
because
I'm
you
know
this
was
like
in
end
of
january.
G
You
know
february.
I
said
I
have
so
many
other
items
that
I
need
to
bring
forward.
I
just
got
in
there's
other
things
and
and
I'm
still
doing
research
right
so
then
he
sent
me
a
text
message
and
I
provided
that
to
you
as
evidence,
and
he
stated
you
know.
Please
understand
that
I
will
lose
my
opportunity.
G
You
know
if
this
takes
too
long,
and
so
that's
when
I
was
like
an
opportunity
for
what
you
know,
what
opportunity
would
you
lose,
and
so
I
just
kind
of
said:
okay.
Well
I
mean
I'm
sorry,
but
I
didn't
reply
to
him
and
that's
kind
of
set
off
red
flags
for
me
like
hey.
This
is
this
is
more
than
just
like:
hey
help
us
out.
This
is
more
like
help.
G
Us
now
help
us
now
kind
of
thing,
so
I
continued
to
look
into
it
and
then
he
he
did
send
me
an
email
the
following
day,
but
on
the
email
the
following
day.
G
So
that
also
was
like
a
trigger
for
me
that
why
is
there
20
000
28
000
difference
in
price
from
one
day
to
the
other?
Not
only
that
he
had
told
my
assistant
that
he
was
going
to
have
a
powerpoint
for
us
at
the
pres
at
the
meeting,
and
when
I
got
into
the
meeting
I
said:
oh,
do
you
have
a
powerpoint
and
he's
like?
G
Well,
I
can
make
one
real
quick,
so
that
kind
of
also
alerted
me
that
well,
you
asked
for
a
meeting
with
the
council
member,
but
you're
not
prepared,
like
with
your
presentation
and
everything.
So
all
of
this
whole
thing
just
struck
me
as
strange,
but
again
I'm
a
new
council
member.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
like
all
of
this
and
so
yeah
the
text
message
that
he
responded
to
me
at
the
time
after
my
assistant
had
said
that
I
needed
to
look
into
it
or
you
know
he
said.
G
Please
understand
that
in
the
construction
industry
this
is
moving
fast
and
please
advise
well.
He
sent
it
to
my
my
assistant
on
february
4th.
Please
advise
ms
perez
that
I
will
lose
the
opportunity
if
it
takes
90
days
to
resolve
the
city.
Management
is
against
this
request,
so
their
recommendation
would
not
be
favorable
to
my
client.
So
that
was
the
text
message
he
sent
to
my
assistant
on
february
8th.
He
sent
me
a
very
similar
one.
He
changed
it
council,
member
woman
perez.
G
G
So
I
continued
to
research,
the
project
and
he
continued
to
ask
for
assistance,
and
then
I
and
then
I
noticed
later
that
he
got
influenced
from
or
to
go
and
meet
with
county
commissioner
cindy
liando
as
well,
so
he
kind
of
texted
me
again
that
he
was
gonna
meet
with
her
inviting
me
to
that.
But
at
that
point
I
was
suspicious
that
management
everything
I
was
hearing
from
management
kind
of
pointed
to
the
fact
that
this
was
a
private
matter
that
the
city
doesn't
really
do
this
kind
of
this.
G
G
They
need
something,
that's
open
and
you
get
a
claw
and
our
trash
trucks
are
more
for
just
like
they're
different
right,
so
we
don't
even
have
the
equipment
and
so
waiving
of
the
fees
I
spoke
with
mr
mizoria,
and
he
said
that
we
don't
wave
fees
for
this
kind
of
thing,
because
that's
a
you
know,
that's
something
that
if
we
do
it
for
them,
we're
going
to
have
to
do
it
for
everyone.
G
So
I
also
learned
that
they
had
reached
out
to
our
economic
development
director
and
asked
him
for
assistance
on
this
project
and
he
advised
them
that
it
didn't
meet
any
of
the
criteria
for
an
incentive
or
anything
like
that.
So
this
was
just
all
kind
of
I
don't
know
it
just
was
strange
to
me.
So
then,
on
march
18th
I
asked
for
reports-
and
I
asked
my
assistants,
where
we
my
assistant,
where
we
were
at
in
the
research
process
on
this.
G
You
know
request
and
she
informed
me
that
on
march
12
there
was
a
meeting
with
mr
eats
mr
patino,
the
developers
council
member
ruben
gutierrez
all
at
the
request
of
council
member
gutierrez.
Nobody
gave
me
a
call,
or
let
me
know
that
they
were
going
to
meet
on
on,
discuss
this
project.
G
So
I
was
concerned
that
everybody
that
he
had
reached
out
to
another
council
member
and
basically
council
shocked
to
someone
else
to
see
if
I
guess
he
could
get
a
faster
result
or
something
and
that
they
all
had
met
without
me
being
present.
So
that
was
concerning
to
me,
because
I
am
the
council
member
for
this
area,
and
so
I
did
make
phone
calls.
I
did
ask
them,
you
know
why
and
why
why?
Why
did
you
all
meet
them
with
him?
G
So
then
I
I
notified
our
miss
christina
hale
assistant
city
manager,
that
I
believed
he
was
lobbying.
I
believed
he
was
acting
as
a
lobbyist
and
I
was
concerned
that
that
he
needed
to
register
as
a
lobbyist
before
he
continued
to
contact
other
council
members
and
before
he
continued
to
ask
the
city
to
provide
assistance,
especially
when
it
had
already
run
through
all
the
departments
and
it
just
didn't
fit
the
public.
You
know
interest
so
now.
G
This
was
more
of
like
a
try
to
make
exceptions
to
the
rules
for
this
particular
person
and
this
particular
project.
So
that's
where
I
started
kind
of
having
these
conversations
with
management
and
on
march
18th
and
april
18th.
I
can't
remember
the
exact
date
he
apologized
for
having
that
meeting
without
me,
and
he
advised
that
they
were.
G
He
was
aware
that
legal
did
send
him
a
letter
stating
that
he
needed
to
register
as
a
lobbyist
and
that
he
disagreed
with
it
with
that
that
he
didn't
think
he
needed
to
register,
and
I
said
you
need
to
defer
to
what
management
told
you
at
the
march
12
meeting
with
council
members
with
the
editors
as
far
as
what
your
options
are
for
the
city
to
help.
They
did
discuss
re-planning
out
that
section
that
had
the
trash,
so
they
can
continue
with
the
other
areas.
G
All
of
that
there
were
options
discussed,
but
of
course
I
wasn't
present,
then
on
may
17th
I
saw
the
project
placed
on
the
council
agenda
item
61c
2
by
councilmember
vidal
rodriguez,
and
it
said
discussion
with
possible
action
for
the
city
of
laredo
to
assist
north
american
industrial
park
and
any
other
matter
incident
there
too.
This
development
will
create
nearly
1
000
jobs
and
20
new
import
export
companies
for
a
total
investment
of
approximately
12
million
dollars.
G
Well,
I
went
back
to
the
notes
that
I
had
in
the
letter
that
he
had
given
me
and
the
letter
he
had
given
me
stated
that
it
was
going
to
create
thousands
of
jobs
and
not
1
000
jobs,
and
it
said
in
the
letter
that
he
was
going
to
be
a
total
investment
of
50
million
dollars
and
on
the
agenda.
It
said
12
million
dollars,
so
I
had
already
experienced
differences
in
numbers
and
to
me
it
kind
of
seemed
like
all
of
these
numbers
were
just
arbitrary.
G
So
again,
I
was
like
confused
on
why
another
council
member
would
place
this
on
the
agenda
and
you
can
watch
the
hearing.
It
was
public.
You
know,
of
course,
where
he
comes
on
and
I
didn't
ask
him,
you
know.
Are
you
lobbying?
Are
you
here
as
a
lobbyist,
because
I
was
concerned
that
had
he
already
been
given
notice
of
being
possibly
acting
as
a
lobbyist?
G
You
know
if
we
were
to
continue
to
hear
his
statements,
then
how
serious
are
we
about
our
lobbying
policy?
If,
if
he's
lobbying
we're
asking
him
to
register
and
then
he
comes
out
and
starts
basically
lobbying,
so
his
method
of
circumventing
that
was
to
bring
somebody
else,
mr
sirafa,
to
come
and
basically
lobby
on
his
behalf,
he
admitted
that
he
was
giving
him
the
statements
and
that
mr
shirafa
was
there
to
like,
speak
his
words.
G
So
to
me
it
was
like
well
you're,
just
basically
lobbying
through
somebody
else
which
isn't
really
any
different
than
what
we
had
asked
you
not
to
you
know
to
register
as
a
lobbyist
first
and
and
then
come
back,
and
you
know
follow
that
process.
You
know,
as
as
a
registered
lobbyist
and
with
the
transparency
and
everything
I
mean,
the
state
has
lobbyist
policies,
the
city
has
lobbyist
policies
and
they
all
have
their
purpose,
and
so.
B
C
G
G
So
then,
all
of
that
transpired
at
the
council
meeting.
Well,
it
didn't
end
there,
because,
right
after
that
meeting
mr
papinio
went
on
social
media
and
he
made
a
post.
The
basically
saying:
shame
on
you:
vanessa
perez
for
tonight's
council
performance
advocating
against
jobs,
growth,
economical
development,
refusing
to
hear
from
your
own
constituents
in
your
district
and
his
father
hector
and
patino
comments.
It's
just
a
power
trip
niko,
so
they're!
G
Basically,
you
know
right
after
the
meeting
you
know
he's
putting
all
of
this
on
social
media
and
and
then
there's
a
post
on
our
laredo
where
they
write
a
city
attorney
says
hector.
Patino
is
an
ethic
in
violation
of
the
ethics
and
and
him
and
and
other
people
went
on
there
to
comment,
and
so
I
basically
just
posted
the
email
where
he
says.
Please
understand
that.
G
I
mean
the
the
text
where
he
you
know
says
that
that
he'll
lose
the
opportunity
and
that's
all
I
said,
and
so
after
that
his
father
was
like
well,
why
don't
you
just
do
it?
Why
don't
you
just
do
the
help
him
with
the
project
on
social
media,
so
I
didn't
engage
with.
Oh,
I
said:
do
what
and
then
people
said
what
exactly
do
you
want
her
to
do?
And
people
just
started
going
off,
but
I
wasn't
attacking
them.
I
wasn't
going
to
his
social
media.
G
Then
I
went
on
on
on
his
father
posted
on
his
personal
facebook,
hermanos.
G
G
They
basically
just
start
saying
how
everybody
at
the
city
is
as
a
atheist
and
how
we're
all
against
the
pueblo
de
dios
and
and
and
kind
of
talking
really
about
what
you
know
what
happened
at
the
meeting
and
how
their
community
needs
to
call
the
city
and
look
for
me
and
look
for
mr
eads
and
but
there's
that's
really
the
only
way
that
the
city
is
going
to
listen
to
them
because
we're
against
religion
and
we're
against
him
as
a
pastor,
and
he
urged
everybody
to
call.
G
He
gave
him
my
cell
phone
number
and
he
gave
him
the
city
manager's
number,
and
so
then
he
he
goes
on
his
own
personal
facebook.
Well,
there
he
starts
talking
about
a
lot
of
different
things.
He
makes
a
lot
of
misstatements.
He
makes
a
lot
of
public
lies.
G
He
says
things
that
are
just
not
true,
and
they
talk
about
compensation
later
on.
He
says
that
he
did
not
charge
in
advance
because
he
was
unsure
if
he
could
help
the
the
consultants,
but
that
he
consultants
to
do
that
type
of
work
do
expect
to
get
compensated
which,
in
fact
he
is
a
consultant.
He
indirectly
admits
and
justifies
the
compensation
component
of
his
interest
in
the
project.
Mr
hector
and
patino,
which
is
the
father
asked,
is
it
illegal
is
a
north
american
industrial
park?
G
He
says
he
says
that,
and
he
stated
he
was
a
consultant
and
how
he
opened
a
company.
So
people
can
pay
him
for
his
services
that
are
very
broad
and
he
basically
just
says
that
he
does
not
lobby.
He
does
not.
That
lobbying
is
not
what
he
does.
He
does
not
do
that
and
all
of
this
stuff
right
so
he's
basically
just
going
on
social
media.
G
Then
I
went
to
do
a
ribbon
cutting
for
the
bridge
in
district
seven
and
he
went
on
there
and
basically
says:
why
is
she
there
when
she
refuses
to
support
north
america
industrial
park
to
create
a
thousand
jobs
and
12
million
dollar
investment
in
her
own
district?
So
he
starts
basically,
you
know,
so
I
just
basically
told
him
stop
misleading
the
public
and
he
keeps
on
show.
He
says.
G
Shame
on
you
for
refusing
to
serve
as
a
public
servant
with
integrity
and
respect
now,
start
an
argument
and
attacking
my
father
on
social
media,
which
my
father
has
served
this
community
for
over
35
years
as
a
pastor.
And
what
have
you
done
for
this
community?
Nothing
just
being
a
disappointment,
so
he
tells
me
that
on
social
media,
of
course
I
didn't
engage,
I
didn't
you
know
continue
or
anything.
G
Then
he
goes
to
his
church
on
may
23rd
and
he
is
being
a
pastor
in
nuevodaylo
to
his
congregation,
and
he
says
I
want
to
tell
you
guys
about
a
person.
That's
been
bothering
me.
He
tells
them
that
my
name
is
vanessa
perez
and
that
I've
been
attacking
him
and
just
basically
lying
to
them
that
I
oh
and
then
he
says.
G
G
So
then
he
goes
on
a
live
video
and-
and
he
basically
says
that
misleading
the
public
about
how
I'm
discriminating
him
and
that
that
I
have
I'm
being
a
hypocrite
and
and
that
he's
concerned
about
my
mental
health
and
that
he's
worried
about
me
and
just
all
kinds
of
lies
and
things
like
that.
So
then,
after
that
he
makes
another
post
misleading
the
public
again,
and
he
just
kind
of
has
a
history
of
doing
that.
Well,
then,
people
on
social
media
were
telling
him
stuff.
G
Well,
then,
I
find
out
that
he
put
tried
to
file
harassment
charges
against
me.
He
went
to
the
police
department
on
what
was
it
it
was
on.
May
25th.
He
went
to
the
police
department
to
file
a
harassment
charge
against
me
for
harassing
him
on
social
media.
G
They
told
him
that
there
was,
it
didn't,
meet
the
elements.
So
then
he
asked
to
speak
to
a
supervisor.
The
supervisor
told
advised
him
that
it
did
not
meet
the
elements
of
harassment.
Patino
just
wanted
to
have
it
on
record,
so
he
wanted
a
record
and
a
case
number
which
then
he
took
to
the
justice
of
the
peace
and
on
the
next
day
he
on
on
the
8th
of
june
or
on
june
2nd.
G
He
filed
for
a
peace
bond
against
me
where
he
was
asking
for
a
peace
bond
that
he
placed
against
me
and
the
reasoning
is,
as
a
public
official
harassing
me
and
my
family
on
social
media.
That's
another
thing
that
he
went
on
saying
on
social
media
was
that
I
will,
if
I
don't
like,
if
I
will
attack
your
family
and
everybody,
that
you
love,
that
I
attacked
him
that
I
attacked
his
family
that
I
went
after,
and
none
of
that
is
true.
G
I
didn't
do
any
of
that
and
I
stayed
quiet,
and
this
is
the
first
time
I'm
actually
saying
any
of
this
to
the
public,
because
I
didn't
want
to
jeopardize.
You
know
this
hearing,
and
but
all
of
this
has
consequences
I
mean
me
as
a
public
official.
I
have
other
constituents
to
work
with
and
he's
telling
my
constituents
that
I'm
attacking
his
family
that
I'm
attacking
his
everybody.
G
You
love
you
know
I'll
she'll
go
after
everybody
that
you
love
he's
he's
taking
time
away
from
me
being
able
to
serve
the
rest
of
my
community.
I
have
other
things
to
deal
with
and,
and
I
had
to
take
the
time
to
defend
myself.
Of
course
they
dismissed
the
peace
bond.
G
They
didn't
grant
it
to
him,
but
I
had
to
take
the
time
to
defend
myself
in
that
and
and
the
scary
part
of
this
is
that
what
about
like
somebody,
you
know,
I
just
came
into
public
office
to
try
to
serve
the
public
and
and
and
then
I
get
slapped
with
all
of
this-
a
peace
bond
and
filing
harassment,
charges
and
well
what
about
somebody
else
that
tries
to
come
in
and
and
is
this
going
to
happen
to
them?
Or
is
this
going
to
scare
people
away
from
being
a
politician?
G
Like
you
know,
this
is
not
the
way
you're
supposed
to
treat
public
officials
and
and
all
because
he
was
lobbying.
Then
afterwards,
a
final
piece
to
this
and
then
I'll
be
done.
I
ended
up
meeting
with
the
owners
of
the
north
american
industrial
park
park
project
by
accident
because
I
had
been
asked
for
a
meeting
and
when
I
got
there
they
said:
oh,
yes,
the
north
american
industrial
park,
and
they
said
that
that
that
they
did
pay
him,
that
they
had
a
contract
and
that
they
did
in
fact
pay
him
and
later
on.
G
You
know
between
patino
and
medina
medina
associate
associates,
consulting
firm
and
sdl
developer,
and
it
says
consultant,
will
lobby
and
advocate
the
city
of
laredo
local
government,
in
behalf
of
client,
to
provide
an
economical
savings
plan
with
sdl
developer,
landfill
development
plan
and
city
of
laredo
government
will
transport
all
trash
from
the
property
to
city
of
laredo
landfill
as
field
stl
will
only
be
in
charge
for
loading
the
city
of
laredo
trucks.
So
that's
what
he
agreed
that
he
was
going
to
do
for
them,
and
payment
shall
be
made
as
follows.
G
Clients
shall
pay
a
compensation
of
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
the
total
project,
with
no
extra
charges.
It
says
clients
shall
pay
a
non-refundable
deposit
of
five
thousand
dollars,
an
initial
payment
of
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
to
initiate
the
contract
services,
which
the
check
for
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
was
given
to
him
on
january
12,
and
that
was
the
day
that
I
received.
The
first
text
message
from
him
was
january
12th,
so
he
had
already
contracted
with
this
company
when
he
reached
out
to
me
for
the
assistance
same.
I
G
Deposit
of
25
initiate
contracts
and
2500
as
soon
as
written
agreement
is
reached
between
city
of
laredo
and
client
and
clients
shall
pay
twenty
thousand
dollars.
When
city
of
laredo
initiates
the
services
of
transporting
the
garbage
to
the
city
of
laredo's
landfill,
I
mean
this.
He
was
lobbying,
he
was
a
lobbyist.
He
did
not
register
as
a
lobbyist.
G
He
sat
on
this
ethics
commission
at
one
point
in
his
life
and
enforced
the
ethics
policy,
which
he
himself
violated,
and
not
only
did
he
violate
it,
but
he
attacked
me
in
my
position
to
try
to
get
some
kind
of
to
get
me
arrested
for
something
that
I
didn't
do,
and
then
I
mean
all
of
this
just
so
he
can
just
so
he
can
make
25
000
when
he's
this
project
doesn't
even
fit
the
criteria
for
that
kind
of
assistance,
and
so
that's
basically
the
facts
that
I'm
here
to
state.
A
G
Yes,
yes,
because
one
of
my
neighbors
that
turns
out
that
that
is
her
boss,
which
I
didn't
know
like
this
entire
time,
and
I
thought
I
was
just
gonna
talk
about.
You
know
a
project.
I
didn't
know
what
it
was
and
him
and
I
believe
his
brother
were
there
and
it
was
about
this
project
and
they
were-
and
I
think,
there's
two
other
owners,
but
I
don't
know
who
they
are
and.
G
Yes,
yes,
he
told
me
that
he
apologized,
he
said,
I'm
sorry,
everything
that
happened
at
the
city
council
meeting.
We
were
in
the
room
that
when
mr
patino
started
talking
about
being
a
pastor
that
he
thought,
what
does
that
have
to
do
with
us?
We're
businessmen
that
he
didn't
know
that
there
was
an
ethics
violation?
He
didn't
know
that
he
needed
to
register
as
a
lobbyist.
He
didn't
know
any
of
that
when
we
asked
him
if
he
had
been
compensated,
he
said
he
did
not.
He
basically
said
I
have
not
been
paid.
G
G
A
What
date
was
that
city
council
meeting.
A
Please,
okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
ms
castillo,
and
I
think
we
have
a
housekeeping
matter
regarding
some
consideration
of
an
affidavit
of
some
kind.
C
C
The
affidavit
was
provided
to
as
well
as
the
contract
was
provided
to
us
on
monday,
which
was
january.
I'm
sorry
january
was
july,
12th
and
based
on
the
rules.
You
all
have
the
discretion,
since
it
wasn't
provided
to
you
all,
as
well
as
to
mr
patino
three
days
before
today's
hearing.
You
all
have
the
discretion
on
whether
to
consider
it
or
not.
If
you
all
believe
it's
reasonable
and
and
important
to
consider
for
this,
for
this
particular
hearing.
C
No,
in
fact
it's
actually
just
that
you
all
have
the
discretion
on
whether
to
consider
it
or
not
it.
Actually,
it's
section
807,
a
three.
The
commission
by
majority
vote,
has
a
discretion
to
allow
for
consideration
of
materials,
not
timely
submitted,
so
because
we
submitted
it
to
you
all
because
we
received
it
on
monday.
You
all
have
that
discretion,
and
you
would
just
have
to
take
a
vote
on
whether
to
to
allow
that
the
consideration
of
those
materials
and.
A
Just
to
be
clear,
this
is
the
affidavit
that
is
included
under
tab,
number,
nine
and
then
the
contract,
that's
under
tab.
Number
eight.
Is
that
correct,
correct.
F
C
Correct
the
owner,
the
owner
of
a
north
american
industrial,
I
forget
what
the
name
is,
but
yes
of
the
naip.
C
The
the
owner
is
mr
martinez
martinez
who
is
who
owns
stl
development,
which
I
understand,
owns
naip,
which
I
believe
is
what's
listed
in
the
affidavit,
and
he
attests
to
that,
as
well
as
to
the
fact
that
they
did
hire
mr
patino
and
they
did
pay
him.
And
the
copy
of
the
check
is
also
on
that.
Last
page
of
the
contract.
F
Moving
that
they
admitted
for
admission
for.
A
A
C
Yes,
at
this
point,
I
don't
believe
there's
any
more
to
provide
on
on
this
end,
so
mr
padilla
can
provide
him.
A
D
First
of
all,
thank
you,
commission,
and
all
of
you
for
for
being
here
taking
your
time
I
wanna
take
this
moment.
I
know
that
miss
perez
has
indulged
you
in
this
political
situation,
so
I
don't
want
to
take
a
lot
of
your
time,
but
I
do
want
to
give
you
a
context
of
what
this
is.
This
is
a
perfect
example
of
political
oppression
or
power
or
abuse
of
power.
D
In
a
sense
when
I
was
serving
as
a
commissioner
of
the
ethics
she's
part
of
art
laredo,
as
other
public
officials
are,
as
you
guys
are
aware,
and
when
I
was
here,
the
only
commissioner
who
was
attacked
through
facebook
and
social
media
was
to
this
group.
So
every
decision
that
at
the
time
the
commission
made,
I
was
the
only
one
that
I
was
posted.
My
picture
was
there
and
they
criticized
me
and
every
decision,
the
city
at
the
time.
D
I
would
call
the
city
attorney
at
the
time
christina
hell,
and
I
would
ask
why
is
it
that
the
attorney
or
anybody
from
the
city
defending
the
decisions
of
the
ethics
commissions?
Why
is
it
that
we
are
not
defending
on
social
media
and
her
decision
was
well?
Mr
patino,
we
don't
have
a
pi
person
to
defend
on
social
media.
D
We
don't
have
that
capacity,
but
for
and
this
didn't
happen
once
it
happened-
many
many
many
times
where
the
ethics
decisions
that
were
made-
I
was
attacked
in
social
media,
and
so
I
I
want
to
start
how
I
got
into
this
political
world.
My
my
dad
mentioned
when
I
was
16
years
old
by
accident
and
this
accident
happened
on
lafayette
in
madison
and
so
rare
roads
passed
through
there,
and
I
was
16
years
old
at
the
time
when
I
had
the
accident,
I
lost
my
arm.
My
other
two
siblings
were
involved.
D
I
met
hector
liendo
and
I
started
meeting
all
these
public
officials
at
the
time.
True
garza,
who
was
running
at
the
time
there
was
at
the
time
nowhere.
There
was
no
light
indicating
emergency
lights
on
the
railroad
for
students
or
children
crossing
over.
There
was
not
a
bridge.
There
was
no
safety
guards
and
so
exoriendo
and
he
met
with
my
family
at
the
time
he
was
a
council
member.
D
He
advocated
the
city
council
to
put
a
bridge
for
children
who
were
crossing
from
you,
know,
railroads
and
coming
from
school,
or
vice
versa,
coming
home
going
to
school,
and
this
was
my
first
introduction
into
this
political
world,
which
was
very
very
difficult
because
of
the
time
there
were
a
lot
of
oppression
or
a
lot
of.
We
cannot
do
this.
We
could
not
do
that.
You
know,
and
but
our
issue
was
at
the
time
we
need
to
advocate
for
the
safety
of
the
children
at
the
time,
and
so
that's
my
first
introduction
to
this
world.
D
I
was
a
child,
I'm
22
years
old
I
had
because
of
the
because
of
the
accident.
I
went
through
a
lot
of
situations
where
it
was
difficult.
It's
difficult
to
overcome
many
situations
in
life.
I
went
to
school
in
2005
as
I'm
doing
a
master's
in
theology
in
2005.
My
brother
is
murdered,
we're
from
the
west
side
of
loredo,
which
is
las
cantaranas.
It's
the
neighborhood,
my
brother,
through
this
accident
that
happened
back
in
92
that
we
went
through
as
kids.
D
D
I
didn't
know
at
the
time
I
put
my
hand
on
the
rail
as
I'm
pushing
her
back
in
and
telling
her
don't
move,
because
if
you
move
you're
going
to
kill
us
both,
as
I
put
my
my
hand
on
the
rail,
the
train
goes
and
takes
my
hand
my
brother
at
that
time
he
froze.
I
didn't
know
at
the
time
that
that
happens
is
when
you're
in
chalk
he
froze
and
because
of
that
experience
he
felt
so
much
guilty.
He
couldn't
overcome
it.
He
becomes
a
heroin
user
and
he
started
shooting
himself.
D
He
goes
to
a
house
to
go,
connect
and
buy
heroin
in
2005.
He
gets
picked
up
right
there
on
west
side
on
cantaranas.
It
gets
picked
up
by
the
mexican
mafia
and
is
taken
to
puerto
ro,
he's
shot
and
he's
taken
in
the
trunk
of
a
car
and
burned.
We
have
been
in
our
neighborhood
all
our
lives.
We
knew
the
guys
who
had
murdered
him
so
in
2005
I
come
back
to
laredo
and
working
with
my
dad.
We
start
meeting
again
all
these
public
officials.
D
I
stopped
meeting
for
the
first
time
joe
rubio
and
I
started
meeting
district
judges
and
I
started
meeting
all
these
attorneys
and
one
of
the
first
things
we
saw
was
the
jp
from
the
south
who
gave
a
thousand
dollar
bond
to
all
the
seven
defendants
who
were
charged
with
double
murder,
double
kick
napping
and
they
were
charged
with
a
thousand
dollar
bond.
We
went
to
the
judges
and
said
judges.
We
need
change
in
our
community.
D
D
We
started
advocating
we
started
advocating
for
this
change
in
our
community.
Today,
no
jp
has
the
power
to
put
a
bond
on
the
defendant
because
of
that
work
that
we
did
in
2005.
we
implemented,
we
met
for
the
first
time,
judge
hell
at
the
time
he
was
a
candidate
and
we
said,
judge
hell.
We
need
justice
in
our
community.
Families
are
suffering
today
and
we
need
change
with
the
jps.
D
We
need
someone
accountable
to
say
that
this
is
not
right
in
2008,
as
I'm
working
on
a
masters
and
advocating
for
this
change,
one
was
to
put
a
difference
on
defendants
who
had
been
charged
with
murder
and
put
the
right
bonds
on
them.
The
second
part
that
happened
was
plea,
deals
that
were
going
on
at
the
time
that
they
came
in
and
said
mr
patina
we're
off
in
five
years
for
the
guys
who
murdered
your
brother.
D
We
sat
as
a
family
and
we
sat
with
the
da's
office,
and
we
said
no,
the
da's
office
said
to
us.
We
can't
make
it
happen
because
the
evidence
it
is
not
strong
enough.
I
remember
joey
davis,
being
one
of
the
prosecutors
who
said
mr
patino
you're,
asking
us
forcing
us
to
to
a
deal
that
we
can't
prove
he
goes
you're
going
to
lose
and
we
ask
them
go
to
trial.
D
Let
me
just
explain
why,
because
you
indulge
me
so
I
would
like
to
give
you
a
few
minutes
of
why
I'm
here
today,
all
right
and
so
and
that
time
they
went
to
trial
all
these
defendants
and
all
these
defendants
were
sentenced
to
life
in
prison
because
of
the
work
it
wasn't
easy
to
convince
the
da's
office.
It
wasn't
easy
to
advocate
it
wasn't,
but
we
made
that
change
in
our
community
2008.
I
started
working.
Judge
hale,
calls
me
and
says
hector.
I
want
you
to
come
and
work
for
us.
D
I
want
you
to
do
something
in
our
community.
We
started
the
drug
court
program.
The
drug
court
program
is
dealing
with
criminals
who
are
coming
in
and
out
of
our
prison
system
with
no
mercy
with
no
help.
It's
a
revolving
door.
They
come
in,
they
go
out,
and
so
we
created
a
drug
war
program
that
deals
with
drug
abuse
and
mental
health,
and
and
it's
and
it's
a
holistic
approach
to
this
defendants
who
are
coming
in,
we
wanted
a
difference
in
our
community.
D
Drug
court
was
created.
Nobody,
no
public
official,
wanted
raw
court
at
the
time.
Nobody,
it
was
hard
to
convince
the
probation
office,
the
pre-trial
officers,
public
defenders,
the
da's
office,
the
federals
every
law
enforcement
agency
was
against
this
program.
It
was
a
unique,
different
approach
because
it
dealt
with
one
case,
all
the
departments
getting
together
and
talking
about.
How
can
we
help
this
defendant
become
a
productive
citizen
of
our
society
and
not
going
back
to
prison
and
not
coming
back
to
our
communities
and
hurting
our
community?
D
And
so,
as
a
drug
court
advocate,
I
became
a
drug
court
director
there.
I
was
there
with
jotel
for
so
many
years.
It
is
through
that
work.
So
many
families-
and
let
me
give
you
one
case
where
one
case
goes-
a
defendant
goes
before
judge
hell.
He
is
smelling
like
he's
dying
and
joshua
says
hector,
go,
go
talk
to
this
guy
something's
wrong
and
I
go
to
one
of
the
jury
rooms
and
I
take
this
guy.
His
name
was
ardua
and
I
go
what's
going
on.
Show
me
your
shirt.
D
He
has
so
many
holes
all
over
his
chest
and
his
arm
his
legs,
where
he's
shooting
up
heroin
and
cocaine
that
his
skin
does
not
dissolve
and
the
heroin
does
not
dissolve
the
skin
starts
falling
off.
At
that
moment,
we
have
to
call
the
ambulance,
take
him
to
the
hospital.
Three
months
later
he
came
back.
He
goes,
mr
patino,
thank
you
because
you
saved
my
life.
D
D
Last
year,
as
I
leave
draw
court-
and
I
leave
that
type
of
work,
I'm
with
my
partner
who
is
enrique
medina,
which
works
with
me
and
I'm
sitting
with
him
in
a
car,
and
I
get
a
phone
call
from
one
of
these
families
that
know
that
I
handle
this
a
lot
of
typical
cases.
So
my
consulting
firm
that
I
started
was
I
received
this
call
and
says,
mr
patino.
I
need
you
to
help
me
and
I
go
okay.
What
do
you
need?
He
goes.
D
D
D
I
said,
let
me
let
me
get
into
it.
I
go
talk
to
morgan.
I
go
see
him
at
the
morgue
and
I
take
the
person
the
family
to
the
morgan
said,
but
they
don't.
I
don't
recognize
him.
I
don't
know.
If
he's
in
he's
bloated
because
of
the
river
I
go
back
to
the
funeral
home,
I
talked
to
hernandez
lopez
and
they
agreed
to
take
the
body,
and
I
said
I
need
you
to
help
me
how
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
identify
this
man
through
mr
hernandez
lopez
and
myself
we're
talking
to
his
office?
D
And
so
mr
anderson
and
I
look
into
the
property
of
this
man
and
we
see
a
ring,
and
I
say
I
think
this
ring
is
special.
I
called
the
family
and
I
said
what
can
you
identify
this
ring?
I
said:
that's
the
ring.
We
gave
him
in
christmas
before
he
left
to
mexico,
so
my
friend
enrique
medina,
is
next
to
me.
While
we
help
this
family
out,
he
goes
hector.
Did
you
charge
his
family?
I
said
no,
I
didn't
charge
his
family
because
I
don't
know
if
we
can
charge
him
or
we
couldn't
help.
D
He
goes
hector.
I
think
we
need
to
start
a
consulting
company
and
you
see
this
type
of
cases
and
you
have
to
charge
for
your
services.
You
can't
be
doing
it
for
free
and
I
told
them.
I
said
I've
been
doing
free
stuff
because
of
my
parents
because
of
the
ministry.
We
I
do
things
for
free.
I
help
I
get
calls
all
day
different
type
of
families
needing
something
and
I
help
them
for
free,
never
charge.
D
So
I
started
this
small
company.
Actually,
my
office
today
sits
at
mile
one,
which
is
an
economical
development
grant
by
the
serial
radar,
because
it's
a
small,
it's
a
small,
firm
and
and
to
clarify
what
she
mentioned
about
me
getting
paid.
Let
me
clarify
what
that
meant,
because
I
don't
handle
payments.
D
It
is
a
recommendation
who
handles
payments.
He
I
actually
see
him
as
he's
my
employer,
because
he
pays
the
expenses
there
at
the
office.
It's
a
580
rent,
it's
a
small
firm
and,
and
so
he
he's
paying
the
rent
he's.
D
Let
me
say
it's
like
an
investor,
he
goes
hector,
you
work
the
cases
and
I'll
pay
expenses
and
we'll
see
if
this
makes
money
or
not
it's
a
small
firm.
So
this
is
where
I'm
at.
I
want
to
talk
into
what
mr
ministry
is
talking
about,
and
I
want
you
to
go
to.
If
you
have.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
a
copy
of
the
epic,
the
situational
code
of
ethics,
but
I
want
to
turn
to
your
page
and
I'm
going
to
go
through
it
because
it
pertains
to
this.
D
D
Has
errors-
and
it's
very
broad
into
the
definition
as
to
a
lobbyist?
Is
it
doesn't
identify
many
things,
so
it
gives
it's
talking
about
the
texas
legislators
talking
about
richard
raymond.
Let's
talk
about
tracy
king,
it
doesn't
talk
about
city
council,
so
someone
didn't
take
the
time
to
really
edit
this
properly
and
of
reflect
what
the
city
of
laredo
wanted
to
do.
D
D
It
defines
who
the
intent
of
call
the
ethics
was.
The
intent
was
for
public
officials,
and
it
says
the
mayor
city,
council,
members
of
boards
committees
in
commission,
a
county
judge,
the
associate
judge,
the
city
manager,
the
deputy
city
manager,
the
assistant
city
manager
secretary.
It
talks
about
public
officials.
D
This
is
the
intent
of
this
code
of
ethics.
It
was
never
the
intention
to
apply
it
to
a
private
citizen
or
a
small
firm
or
a
small
business
me
and
my
my
partner
working
together
and
trying
to
see
if
this
is
a
business
that
could
make
money
or
something
I
don't
know.
If
it's
going
to
work
out,
but
the
city,
the
code
was
never
intended
for
the
city
of
laredo
to
attack
a
private
citizen
on
page
12,
page
17.
D
D
The
gentleman
calls
me
and
says
mr
patino,
I'm
making
a
swimming
pool
in
my
house
like
okay,
but
the
city
dorito
went
and
put
a
stop
construction.
I
said
okay,
he
goes.
I
want
you
to
come
and
see
it
and
tell
me
what
I
need
to
do.
Okay,
okay,
I
got
the
the
letter
from
silver.
I
went
to
planning
and
zoning
and
I
said:
hey
this
guy's
building
a
swimming
pool.
He
doesn't
have
a
permit.
You
guys
put
a
stop
construction.
D
D
D
D
D
D
That
was
never
my
intent
to
hurt
her
or
embarrass
her,
and
sometimes
I
come
a
little
aggressive
and
sometimes
I
I
get
excited
and
I
apologize
for
to
misperes.
Maybe
her
feelings
got
hurt.
I
am
so
sorry,
but
a
simple
answer
from
the
city
from
her
would
have
been
suffice.
If
she
would
have
said
mr
patino
we're
not
helping
you,
the
city
of
laredo
would
have
come
and
told
me
forget
about
it,
but
then
that's
it,
but
the
fact
that
they
never
notified
me.
D
She
never
called
back,
and
what
am
I
supposed
to
do
and
I'm
hoping
now
on
her
own
testimony.
She
said
she
met
with
my
friends.
Luis
martinez
is
a
good
friend
of
mine,
I'm
happy
she
met
with
them.
Hopefully
now
they
can
finish
that
development
project,
and
now
she
can
help
them
the
landfill.
It
was
not
just
trash.
It's
a
landfill
that
the
city
had
back
in
the
70s.
D
The
city
does
not
want
to
touch
it
because
it's
a
landfill
and
all
what
I
was
asking
was:
let's
help
this
developer
because
of
the
pandemic
that
is
going
on
and
let's
see
how
we
can
create
jobs.
Let
me
see
how
can
it
was
nothing
wrong
to
advocate
for
those
things,
but
I'm
hoping
today
now
that
she's,
because
they
they
called
me
and
said
mr
patino-
miss
perez
doesn't
want
to
call
us
she
doesn't
want
to
meet
with
us.
She
does
not
want
to
respond
to
us.
D
So
they
hired
me
and
said:
can
you
please
contact
the
city
and
I
said
okay,
I
can
do
that.
I
can
make
a
phone
call.
Hopefully
we
can
make
a
meeting.
Hopefully
we
can
work
something,
but
on
the
ethics
code
it
was
never
the
intent
of
this
body
of
the
city
council
to
amend
it
to
include
private
citizens
me
as
a
private
citizen.
D
A
A
D
Else
with
insurance
we'll
be
getting
you
an
individual
well
because
the
intent
of
this,
because
that
was
the
question
last
hearing-
where
are
you
getting
your
intent
from
well
because
last
hearing?
If
I
remember
correctly,
my
regulation
was
correct,
someone
was
asking
what
was
the
intent
of
the
ethics
code?
What
was
the
intent?
Yes,
the
intent
was
never
to
attack
a
business
or
a
private
citizen.
A
D
The
intent
of
the
code-
well,
let
me
get
into
that.
So
let's
say
the
lobbyist
requirement.
So
as
a
list
there's
only
one
firm
in
laredo
one
one
brown
and
ortiz
is
the
only
firmino
laredo
registered
how
many
times
in
city
council.
Do
you
see
contracts
being
given
or
awarded
to
different
entities,
and
businesses
nobody's
registered
guys
nobody,
and
so
now,
oh,
mr
patino,
he
got
paid
two
thousand.
Oh,
no!
No!
No!
D
Let's
hit
him
hard,
but
every
city
council
they're
giving-
and
I
can
just
think
out
of
my
head-
I
don't
know
they
get
huge
contracts,
huge
contracts
there,
the
golf,
the
max
golf
course
huge
contracts,
there,
millions
guys
million.
So
let
me
use
the
word
that
the
the
city
attorney
used
as
of
caution.
They
said
because
of
caution,
we're
bringing
it
to
you.
Why
is
it
that
they
can't
bring
those
contracts
here
and
no
one's
registered?
D
How
many
millions
is
he
getting
millions
that
all
the
import
export
industry
are
upset
because
one
individual
is
getting
the
benefits
of
all
that
has
miza
complained
about
that
one,
or
has
she
complained
about
any
other
industry
business
coming
into
the
radar
getting
a
contract
at
city
council?
This
is
my
concern
guys.
This
is
all
political
and
again
I
apologize
for
her
for
offending
her.
D
This
the
and
you
mentioned
it-
the
requirements,
mr
perez,
the
requirements
for
registrating
for
to
get
registered.
I
understand
most
of
you
guys
are
lawyers
most
of
you
and
other
ones
are
consultants
too.
So
for
you
guys
who
have
a
big
practice,
a
thousand
two
hundred
as
a
fee.
It's
not
a
big
deal.
I
got
calls
mr
patina
just
registered.
D
What's
the
problem,
I
said
I
don't
have
a
thousand
two.
It
ranges
from
300
to
a
thousand
two
right
now,
guys
I'll
be
honest.
We
all
suffering
small
business
owners
are
suffering,
I'm
at
the
city
of
the
radio,
economical
development
grant
at
mile
one,
because
I
can't
go
rent
a
huge
office
for
myself.
D
D
D
D
D
D
She
chose
on
her
own
to
be
a
political
official.
She
chose
to
get
a
cell
phone
that
is
paid
by
the
city
of
laredo
and
by
continuous
by
tax
by
our
taxes.
Then
she
should
hear
from
us
simple
as
that
and
she
could
have
just
called
me
or
sent
me
a
letter
or
eeled
me
or
what
she
done
sent
her
assistant,
getting
paid.
D
All
of
this
comes
down
to
political
drama,
and
I
apologize
for
bringing
it
to
you
because
it
should
have
never
been
brought
here
should
have
never
been
here
and
the
reason
why
I
went
to
the
police
why
I
went
to
judges
of
the
peace,
pepe
salinas
and
requested
this
protection,
but
she
claims
that
she
didn't
say
anything,
but
what
she
did
is
our
naredo.
Just
looked
at
the
facebook
art
laredo,
how
many
times
they
criticized
me
even
through
today
and
she's
using
that
group.
D
She
should
have
never
gone
to
a
private
citizen
and
attack
a
private
citizen,
because
he
disagrees
with
you.
You
are
a
public
official.
She
should
have
known
better
but
or
no.
She
wants
to
use
this
commission
to
destroy
a
small
business
and
I'm
sorry
because
I'm
about
to
close
my
my
office
because
of
this
situation,
no
one
wants
to
work
with
me.
No
one
wants
to
do
business
with
me
because
of
the
situation
that
I
have,
because
she
has
told
the
city
attorney
and
the
city
administration.
D
Don't
talk
to
patino.
She
even
put
an
agenda
item
that
said
no
one
from
district
7
can
talk
to
city
administration.
Without
my
consent
she
was
it
was
placed
on
the
agenda.
The
city
officials
called
me
to
mr
patino.
We
can't
because
she
put
in
the
agenda,
we
can
talk
to
you,
and
so,
if
you
believe
that
I
need
to
register-
and
I
will
follow
your
recommendations,
I
will
follow
that.
I
only
ask
that
you
work
with
small
businesses,
because
how
can
we
work?
D
The
approach
has
to
be
where
the
city
of
laredo
open
arms
to
small
businesses
and
helps
them
rather
than
bring
them
to
a
commission
and
said
we're
going
to
hit
you
with
fines.
We're
going
to
arrest
you
we're
going
to
put
you
in
jail,
we're
going
to
threaten
your
business
and
your
clients
and
your
friends.
I'm
gonna
go
and
steal
your
clients
and
go
against
you.
D
D
Is
you
pay
and
you
register
that's
kind
of
what
kind
of
works
and
because
there's
two
individuals
me
and
my
my
partner
there?
It's
it's
more
fees,
it's
for
individual
in
the
firm.
So
I
don't
know
how
the
city
secretary
will
charge.
So
all
I
ask
is
work
with
me
and
I'll
work
with
the
city
of
laredo
but
open
the
door
for
me
to
work,
be
able
to
meet
with
the
state
administration
on
different
projects,
but
I
can't
talk
to
city
administration
because
she
has
prevented
me
from
doing
so.
D
D
D
Everybody
follow
the
same
rules,
everybody
not
only
me,
but
every
contract
that
is
giving
out
a
city
council.
They
have
to
register
as
a
lobbyist
because
they're
getting
contracts,
one,
I'm
not
getting
paid
by
the
city
of
laredo.
I'm
a
private
citizen,
but
those
people
are
getting.
Invest,
are
getting
paid
directly
by
the
city
of
laredo,
so
make
it
if
you're
going
to
make
a
recommendation,
make
a
recommendation,
but
something
that
is
going
to
be
meaningful
and
it's
going
to
have
real
change.
D
D
You
can
see
vanessa
perez's
agenda,
she
has
brought
up
projects
in
her
district
and
those
people
are
not
registered
they're,
not,
and
so
one
make
it
all.
Everybody
needs
to
arrest
her
because
no
one
registered
and
then
second
work
with
small
businesses
or
firms
like
myself
on
the
fee,
because
we
can't
we
can't
do
that
sometimes.
D
D
Yes,
he's
he's
me
and
my
investor
he's
the
one
helping
me
paying
starting
this
business
that
we're
starting
and
so
he's
the
one
right
now
in
charge
of
the
bank
accounts.
That's
why,
when
I
said
I
didn't
get
paid,
I
didn't
get
paid
because
he's
the
one
in
charge
he
he
is,
and
I
apologize
he
couldn't
be
here
for
the
commission,
because
he
is
in
mexico
right
now
in
mexico
city
he
does
have
an
import
export
company.
D
He
does
something
else
on
the
side
besides
this,
but
it
was
through
him
that
I
met
the
the
north
american
industrial
park,
investors
through
his
contacts,
and
that's
how
I
met
these
individuals.
J
Thank
you
after
you
were
notified
about
the
about
having
to
register
as
a
lobbyist.
The
reason
you
didn't
do
it
was
because
of
the
fees
right
financially
yeah
yeah
it's
hard,
but
I
understand,
though,
that
your
firm
got
paid
a
2500
deposit
for.
D
J
D
D
D
D
D
So
when
I
got
that
email
in
may-
and
this
is
five
months
after
we-
we
got
paid
one-
the
expenses
already
too
much
the
expenses
and
and
second
for
me,
an
email.
It's
not
legally,
it's
not
a
serious
document
because
it's
not
certified.
D
Can
we
sit
down
and
talk
about
this
because
of
the
occupation
that
I
have
and
I
wanted
to
explain
to
them,
have
an
opportunity
to
say
I
can't
pay
the
fees.
If
you
want
me
to
register.
That's
that's
fine,
but
work
with
me
and
give
me
an
opportunity
to
make
this
work.
It
was
never
the
intent
of
misguiding
or
saying
no
you're,
not
if
this
commission
believes
that
I
need
to
register
then
give
me
an
opportunity
to
do
so,
but
when
you're,
starting
for
those
who
have
started
a
small
business,
it
is
hard
guys.
D
D
Where's
the
complaints
there,
where
is
the
the
the
if
they're
saying
that
mr
patino,
you
know
we
need
to
follow
the
letter
of
the
law,
then
right
now,
how
can
you
spend
so
much
time
and
money
on
this
issue
when
right
now
guys
our
community
is
suffering
and
rather
than
bringing
solutions,
the
approach
has
to
be.
How
can
we
help
small
businesses
now
how
we
hurt
you?
D
I
have
never
heard
anyone.
Anyone
and-
and
we
can
play
this
political
game.
I
can
play
this
game
with
her
all
day.
If
I
want
to,
you
can
do
it.
I
can
an
attorney
said
mr
patino
post
file.
Complaints
against
me,
vanessa
faulk
complains
against.
This
count
complains
on
all
everybody,
and
I
said
why
play
that
game?
D
Why
that's
not
important?
I
don't
want
to
do
that
to
her.
I
want
to
do
right
for
my
community
and
make
a
difference.
That's
what
I
want
to
do
and
if
she
wants
to
close
my
business
in
the
city
of
laredo
use
his
power
through
the
sydney
attorney
to
close
my
business
and
be
it
I'm
fine
with
that.
I
can
go
home,
but
this
commission
has
to
make
real
changes
and
the
change
has
to
be.
D
D
So
I
ask
you
today:
your
recommendation
make
real
change
today
by
instructing
the
city
attorney
that
every
city
council,
that
they
make
a
recommendation
and
say
hey,
they're,
not
registered
a
lobbyist,
they
can
pay,
they
can
easily
pay
a
thousand
two.
How
many
attorneys
this
example,
the
attorneys
representing
the
city
to
read
on
the
tax?
D
D
D
The
reason
I
put
the
peace
bond
was
because
she
went
on
social
media
and
started
attacking
my
parents
start
attacking
my
ministry.
Let
me
say
how
she
did
it.
She
used
other
people
from
our
laredo
to
talk.
You
can
go
to
our
laredo
and
see
it
and
said
the
corruption
of
mr
patino
and
she
put
a
wolf
on
the
social
media.
D
This
other
person
does
a
wolf
and
miss
perez
starts.
Engaging
in
conversations
with
these
individuals
correctly
is
influencing
our
community
to
attack
my
parents,
and
this
is
why
I
have
to
resort
to
those
situations,
and
I
apologize
to
her
because
it
was
never
my
intent
to
do
that,
and
I
literally
I
want
to
thank
pepe
salinas,
because
when
I
was
there
at
the
hearing,
he
abso
called
me
and
said
mr
patino.
D
It
was
a
hopeful
hearing
and,
and
he
says
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you
are
above
all
of
this
because
you
are
a
man
of
god
and-
and
it
was
that
moment
and
believe
me
guys,
I
got
really
sick.
I
got
really
mad
when
this
situation
was
happening
with
miss
perez
that
I
wanted
to
go
all
out,
but
it
was
those
words
from
judge
pepe
salinas
that
I
called
him
the
other
day
and
I
said,
judge
thank
you
because
sometimes
we
get
lost
and
we
forget-
and
he
goes
by
thinking,
you're
better
than
this.
G
D
F
F
D
D
I
don't
think
so
because
at
the
time
george
rocket
was
there,
and
I
already
knew
my
position
was
george.
He
he
didn't
work
with
me
and
I
knew
he
told
me.
So
why
bother
so
I
didn't.
I
don't
think
I
did.
I
think
we
started
contacting
the
city
afterwards
after
you
received
yes
payment
after.
D
Yes,
and-
and
it
is
because
it
was
a
huge
deal-
the
the
northern
natural
park
has
been
struggling
with
the
situation
for
about
four
years.
So
they
told
me
this
is
a
huge
undertaking.
It
is
not
an
easy
situation
and
I
said
it's
okay
I
mean
all
we
can
do
is
ask
and
if
they
say
no,
there's
a
no,
but
we
can
ask.
H
D
D
Lobbyist-
and
I
said
I
don't
have
the
money
because
you
need
to
register
because
they're
not
going
to
allow
you
to
speak
at
the
city
council,
because
of
that
I
said,
okay,
all
right,
and
so
when
that
day
happened
at
city
council,
the
only
reason
I
got
and
you
guys
know
a
friend
of
mine,
frank
off.
I
said
frank
help
me
out,
because
I
don't
have
anybody
else
who
who
can
articulate
the
project
itself
to
city
council
and
I
believe
the
city
attorney
is
going
to
update
me
talking
about
it.
D
So
I
need
someone
to
talk
about
it.
You
can
see
the
video
they
didn't.
Allow
us
the
opportunity
to
even
present
the
project
they
shut
me
down
that
day.
You
know,
miss
ferris
acted
like
an
attorney
and-
and
she
thought
she
was
a
prosecutor
at
that
moment
and
was
trying
to
get
me
to
say
that
yes,
I'm
a
lobbyist,
yes,
I'm
getting
paid
and
that's
what
her
motive
was.
D
The
approach
in
the
city
has
never
been
since
the
beginning.
Mr
patino,
let's
sit
with
you,
how
can
we
help
you?
Okay,
there's
a
requirement
register.
How
can
we
do
this?
Remember
if
every
business
in
laredo
gets
an
opportunity
to
work
with
the
city,
it's
never
to
close
their
business,
it's
okay!
How
can
we
help
you?
That
is
the
approach.
If
it
happens,
an
individual
who
wants
to
open
a
swimming
pool,
they
don't
go
and
arrest
them.
They
don't
hit
it
with
fines.
They
don't
do
that.
They
go.
D
You
need
to
submit
plans,
you
need
to
register.
You
need
to
do
what
is
right,
but
they
don't
threaten
you
with
police
officers
going
to
their
house
and
saying
you
know
we're
coming
from
pd.
Well,
investigators!
Looking
for
you,
I
don't
know
about
you
guys,
but
an
investigator
is
looking
for
you
you're
kind
of
freaked
out
for
a
bit
and
especially
if
the
police
officers
outside
your
house,
the
neighbors-
I
don't
know
about
you
guys,
but
you
know
I
don't
know
about
you
guys,
but
I've
worked
with
law
enforcement.
D
D
C
Mr
trump
there's
a
there's,
no
further
questions
of
mr
brother.
I
just
want
to
clarify
a
couple
things
for
you
all
one
about
what
he's
talking
about
with
the
police
officers.
Yes,
there
were
investigators
who
did
go
hand,
deliver
the
documents
to
him.
The
reason
for
that
was
because
he
had
not
claimed
the
certified
mail
that
had
previously
been
sent
to
him,
and
we
wanted
to
ensure
that
he
received
the
documents
and
had
notice
of
this
hearing
and
everything
that
was
going
to
be
presented
before
him.
C
So
we
did
have
investigators
who
are
not
in
uniform
had
no
purpose
for
police
matters
other
than
just
to
give
him
the
documents
to
ensure
that
he
had
noticed
properly.
Additionally,
I
want
to
clarify
section
101
of
the
code.
C
If
you
look
at
the
third
paragraph,
as
far
as
the
discussion
of
intent
was
going
on
regarding
the
ethics
code,
it
states
the
provisions
and
requirements
of
this
code
shall
apply
to
public
officials,
employees
and
every
person
who
attempts
to
influence
government
action,
such
as
former
city
officials
and
employees,
candidates
for
employ
I'm
sorry,
candidates
for
public
office
persons,
doing
business
with
the
city
and
lobbyists.
C
C
In
addition,
council
members
are
not
supposed
to
meet
with
people
who
are
lobbyists
who
are
not
registered,
so
that
is
just
the
clarification
that
I
wanted
to
give
you
all.
Regarding
that,
additionally,
I
know
there
was
some
talk
about
proper
service.
I
don't
really
think
I
need
to
get
into
that
other
than
the
fact
that
he
was
delivered
notice
by
hand
delivery,
and
he
received
it.
Additionally,.
D
Thank
you.
Can
we
talk
about
the
private
as
attorneys,
mostly
who
are
your
attorneys?
The
city
radio
has
abilities
to
do
a
private
server.
They
have
the
financial
means
to
do
a
private
server.
It
didn't
have
to
be
a
police
officer
who
comes
to
your
house
and
yes,
they're,
not
in
uniform
but
they're
with
a
gun,
and
this
is
little
pd
on
their
badge.
So
it's
a
little
intimidating.
You
know
for
her
to
say
that
the
cd
laredo
yeah
we
used
investigators.
D
It
wasn't
not
a
big
deal,
but
they
have
private
servers.
They
they
use
them
all
the
time
as
attorneys
they
could
have
used
a
private
server
if
they
wanted
to,
but
that
was
not
their
intent.
Their
intent
was
different.
It
was
intimidation
from
the
city
and
that's
the
issue
today
and
and
for
her
to
say
on
on
on
the
ethics
that
doesn't
apply.
D
I
just
want
to
say
all
of
this
is
a
city
government
cannot
attack
a
a
basement,
a
small
business
and
say
to
dictate
to
them
and
say
this
is
how
you
run
your
business,
mr
patina.
This
is
how
you
want
to
do
it.
You
don't
dictate
the
approach
has
to
be
different.
The
approach
has
to
be.
How
can
we
help
you
for
you
to
prosper
as
a
business,
because
that's
what
we
want
at
the
end
of
the
day?
That's
what
we
want
not
to
hit
you
hard
with
fees
and
fines
intimidations.
D
That
is
not
the
job
of
a
government
that
is
not.
This
body
has
an
opportunity
today
to
make
a
difference
in
our
government,
and
that
is-
and
she
wants
to
say
that
an
individual
who
has
their
own
business,
who
gets
a
contract,
doesn't
have
to
basically
lobbyists
so
she's
already
defending
those
people
getting
contracts
by
the
city.
C
I
I'm
not
aware
of
that.
I'm
not
sure
where
he
got
that
information,
and
at
this
time
I
don't
have
the
the
actual
certified
documentation.
B
B
G
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
come
back
up
here.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
a
few
things.
I
know
mr
patino
stated
that
that
this
was
personal
or
that
my
feelings
got
hurt.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
That's
not
the
case.
I
I'm
just
trying
to
do
my
job.
As
a
as
a
elected
official,
I
was
told
to
read
the
code
of
ethics.
G
I
was
we
were
given
training
by
the
city
of
of
the
ethics
and
we
were
we're
held
responsible
to
follow
the
code
of
ethics
as
well,
and
once
I
identified
the
behavior
as
being
that
that
is
of
a
lobbyist,
I
cannot
control
what
the
city
does
outside
of
the
fact
that
I
can
control
who
approaches
me
and
who
comes
to
me
and
once
I
saw
that
he
or
had
suspicion
that
he
was
acting
as
a
lobbyist.
I
then
got
consulted
with
the
attorney
and
I
always
do
when
it
comes
to
issues.
G
When
he's
talking
about
me
putting
agenda
items,
I
did
say
that
I
think
we
needed
to
maybe
make
some
changes
to
our
ethics
policy
to
strengthen
them,
and
maybe
you
know
see
you
know
how
how
maybe,
if
there
are
other
instances
of
lobbying-
or
I
have
an
experience
personally,
this
is
I
this
is
like
the
the
one
lobbying
experience
that
I
have
that
I
could
say
why
you
know
he
was
pushing
for
the
project
he
was.
I
believe
he
was
getting
compensated
and
he's
not
the
project.
G
You
know
directly
he's
kind
of
an
outside
entity,
the
part
that,
when
he
said
that,
if
the
city
would
have
told
him
that
they
weren't
interested,
he
did
text
me
management
is
not.
Favorable
is
not
in
support
of
this
project
like
they
had
gone
through
the
whole
thing
with
him
already
before
me,
and
then
china
to
tell
the
owners
what
where
this
project
stands.
G
In
terms
of
you
know,
eligibility
for
economic
incentives
and
and
how
the
city
can
help
and
whether
or
not
I
mean
we're
talking
about
public
funds,
we're
talking
about
taxpayer
dollars,
any
incentive
that
we
would
provide
to
this
company
would
come
out
of
our
general
fund.
We
would
have
to
make
that
money
up
somewhere
else,
so
he
wants
us
to
agree
to
help
a
private
development.
G
When
then,
every
other
development
in
the
community
is
going
to
want
the
same
kind
of
help
if
they
want
us
to
waive
the
fees
for
them,
then
we're
going
to
have
to
waive
the
fees
for
everybody
and
it's
unfair
to
say
that,
because
you
don't
want
to
help
this
company
you're
against
jobs,
you're
against
business
you're
against.
It's
not
the
case,
we
do
want
jobs
and
growth
and
of
course,
he
also
stated
that
if
I
didn't
want
to
speak
to
him,
I
could
have
ignored
him.
That
is
true.
G
If
I
didn't
want
to
speak
to
him,
I
could
have
ignored
him,
but
I
didn't
ignore
him
as
soon
as
he
texted
me.
The
first
time
asked
to
meet
with
me.
I
met
with
him.
I
don't
have
anything
personal
against
mr
patino.
His
family
I've
never
attacked
mr
patino
or
his
family.
He
also
stated
that
I'm
part
of
our
laredo.
We
have
the
founder
of
our
laredo
here
and
he
can
tell
you
that
I'm
not
part
of
arnardo.
G
I
am
not
a
member
of
our
laredo,
so
anything
that
other
people
say
or
do
is
unfair
for
him.
To
put
that
as
me
like,
I
cannot
control
what
other
people
do
and
say,
and
post
and
write
or
whatever.
So
if
for
him
to
accuse
it
of
me
of
doing
that
is
is
unfair
to
me
as
well,
and
so
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
getting
at
is
like
he.
G
He
gave
a
very
long
speech
here
today
that
you
know
kind
of
didn't
really
have
some
relevance
in
the
beginning
as
far
as
this
particular
case,
but
you
can
see
that
he
has
shown
dangerous
public
behavior
he
he
when
he
talks
about
being
intimidated
about
the
police.
Coming
to
his
house,
I
had
constables
coming
to
my
house
to
serve
me
paperwork
that
I'm
getting
slapped
with
a
peace
bond.
G
You
know
he
filed
harassment,
charges
against
me
and
when
they
told
him
that
it
didn't
meet
the
elements
he
escalated
it
by
going
to
his
the
superiors
and
the
higher-ups
to
try
to
get
them
to
to
make
what
other
people
are
saying
about
him
on
social
media
with
their
free
speech,
because
nobody
from
what
I
saw
that
wasn't
harassment
or
anything
to
use
it
against
me.
So
I
was
intimidated.
Also
when
I
had
the
constables
calling
me.
I
have
a
peace
bond
here
for
you
and
we
need
to
serve
you
with
that's
also
intimidating.
G
They
showed
up
with
a
gun.
They
showed
up
with
a
badge.
Also,
I
mean
the
intent
is
not
to
intimidate
and
if
that's
the
claim
from
him
that
we
were
trying
to
do
it,
it's
like.
Was
he
trying
to
do
that
to
me,
you
know
so
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
is
like.
Should
he
be?
You
know
he
was
he
required
to
be
registered
as
a
lobbyist?
You
know
we
did
notify
him
and
when
he
said
that
he
didn't
get
the
the
notice
until
may.
G
He
did
call
me,
like
I
stated
in
my
evidence,
sometime
between
march
18th
and
april
20th,
which
is
like
a
month's
timeframe.
I
can't
remember
the
exact
time,
but
he
did.
Let
me
know
that
he
had
been
notified
by
the
city
secretary
that
he
was
going
to
have
to
register
as
a
lobbyist,
so
that
was
way
before
the
council
meeting
and
he
continued
to
go
from
council
member
to
council
member
and
so
just
to
circumvent
the
lobbyist
rules
and
they're
there.
G
C
C
I
just
want
to
clarify
before
the
commission
really
it's
it's
irrelevant-
how
many
people
have
actually
registered
as
lobbyists
before.
At
this
point,
we
can
only
do
what's
brought
to
our
attention.
We
can
only
enforce
what
is
brought
to
us
for,
in
mr
patino's
case,
it
was
brought
to
our
attention.
We
tried
to
inform
him
of
the
requirements
if
he
didn't
already
know
them,
even
though
he
was
already
a
commissioner
of
this
commission
for
two
years,
and
so
we
went.
C
The
extra
took
the
extra
effort
to
send
him
a
courtesy
to
give
him
that
that
notice,
that
this
would
be
required,
which,
what,
like
I
said,
was
it
was
a
courtesy.
A
C
That's
that's
correct.
It
would
have
to
be
if
it's,
if
it's
something
that
has
to
deal
with
seeking
the
advice
of
counsel
regarding
pending
or
contemplating
litigation
or
settlement
offer
any
matter
in
which
the
judy
attorney
the
government
of
body
has
under
the
texas
disciplinary
rules
of
professional
conduct
of
the
state
bar
of
texas
security,
conflicting
with
this
chapter.
C
A
Session.
Okay,
so
then
I
guess
the
consideration
at
this
time
is
whether
or
not
there'll
be
any
action
taken
with
respect
to
the
evidence,
you're
hearing
disgusting.
What
would
be
the
options
here.
C
The
options
would
be
for
you
to
find
if
there
was
a
violation
of
the
ethics
code,
specifically,
the
clear
violations
that
exist
based
on
the
evidence
that
was
presented
today
is
a
violation
of
section
502
persons
required
to
register
as
lobbyists,
as
well
as
section
504,
b,
initial
registration
and
section
505
quarterly
activity
reports.
C
Those
would
be
the
sections
that
show
clear
violations
if
you
all
find
them
to
find
mr
patina
to
be
having
violated
those.
C
This
would
be
the
opportunity
for
you
all
to
consider
that
the
purpose
of
the
ethics
code
is
for
ethics
to
be
complied
with
to
its
fullest
extent,
especially
sending
out
the
message
to
the
public
that
you
all
follow
the
ethics
code
and
that,
if
we
expect
every
person
who
needs
to
abide
by
the
ethics
code
to
follow
it,
especially
in
this
particular
case
where
the
evidence
has
has
shown
that
the
acts
of
mr
padilla
were
particularly
egregious
specifically
with
the
fact
that
he
did
lie
at
the
council
meeting
as
to
him
not
having
been
paid.
C
The
fact
that
he
knowingly
and
intentionally
refused
to
register
after
being
specifically
informed
of
the
requirement
not
only
by
the
city
attorney's
office
but,
as
mr
patino
stated
by
the
city
secretary
via
phone
call
and
taking
into
consideration
the
fact
that
mr
patino
was
a
former
ethics
commission
member
for
two
years.
C
So
this
is
something
that
I
think
should
be
taken
into
consideration
in
year.
All's
deliberations.
J
F
I
do
sure
just
the
in
terms
of
the
the
disciplinary
action
that
we
may
take.
What's
the?
What
are
our
limitations?
Yes,.
C
If
you
all
do
make
the
finding
that
he
did
knowingly
and
intentionally
commit
violations
of
the
ethics
code,
you
would
have
to
specify
which
ones
as
I
said
it
would
it
would.
It
should
be
section
502,
section
504b
as
well
section
505..
C
C
Section
three
is
particularly
for
this
particular
issue
regarding
disqualification
from
contracting
or
lobbying,
where
you
would
have
the
authority
to
recommend
to
council
that
he
be
prohibited
from
entering
into
any
contract
with
the
city
or
prohibited
from
lobbying
on
behalf
of
clients
before
the
city
for
a
period
not
to
exceed
three
years.
C
You
would
also
have
the
ability
to
impose,
under
section
five,
a
civil
fine
of
five
hundred
dollars
maximum
per
day
after
any
filing
deadline.
That
is
imposed
by
section
five,
which
is
this
lobby
section
that
we're
referring
to,
for
which
the
required
statement
has
not
been
filed
as
each
one
constitutes
a
separate
offense.
C
So,
essentially,
what
you
could
do
with
that
is
you
could
impose
a
500
fine
per
day
that
he
was
not
in
compliance
with
section
5.,
which
could
I
mean
if
you
want
to
take
into
consideration
the
fact
that
he,
the
contract
and
the
payment
received,
and
the
first
text
message
that
was
sent
to
council
member
perez
was
on
january
12th
and
the
fact
that
he
received
notice
of
the
violation
on
may
13th,
which
was
when
he
acknowledged
receipt
of
the
email
that
he
possibly
is
a
lobbyist
and
should
register
and
not
to
mention
the
fact
that
on
may
17th,
which
was
the
actual
council
meeting,
is
when
he
clearly
was
lobbying
for
this
particular
entity
and
lied
about
the
fact
that
he
didn't
receive
payment.
C
C
Those
would
be
the
ones
that
would
be
applicable
in
this
particular
case,
in
accordance
with
the
code.
Some
other
things
that
you
all
could
do
as
well
are
administrative
reimbursement
fees
as
the
labor
and
resources
for
the
city
staff
time
that
were
expended
to
address
this
issue
being
that
it
was
so
egregious
based
on
the
hourly
rates
of
city
staff.
C
C
C
So,
if
you
all
have
any
questions
or
if
you
all
have
anything
else
that
you
all
maybe
would
like
to
impose,
those
would
be
things
that
we
could
discuss.
C
If
I
may,
mr
chair
one
thing
that
I
would
just
like
to
recommend
to
you
all
being
that
this
is
the
opportunity
to
send
a
message
to
the
public
that
that
the
ethics
code
should
be
complied
with
to
the
fullest
extent.
C
I
would
recommend
the
highest
punishment
possible
that
you
all
could
could
could
could
impose
just
in
order
to
deter
future
violations.
If
this
is
something
that
does
happen
like
I
said
we
knew
about
this
one.
We
brought
it
to
your
attention.
This
is
the
perfect
time
to
send
a
message
out
that
this
is
not
something
that's
going
to
be
tolerated
by
the
city,
nor
the
ethics
commission.
J
K
If
I
can
just
just
let
you
know
that
if
you
do
have
a
question
about
how
to
apply
the
ethics
code
and
all
that,
I
think
those
kind
of
legal
questions
we
can
discuss
outside
of
executive
session,
I'm
not
saying
that
we
can't
go
into
executive
session
for
legal
consultation.
K
K
A
K
You're
concerned
about
something
like
that,
you
have
a
question
like
that.
Certainly
that's
something
that
we
could
discuss,
but
it's
usually
something
that's
pending
litigation,
I'm
just
telling
you
that
I
don't
necessarily
see
anything
here
and
I
don't
know
what's
in
your
mind
or
what
your
question
is.
I
don't
see
anything
here
that
would
require
executive
session,
in
my
opinion,
just
right
now,
but
and
so
I'm
trying
to
guide
you
if
you
think
it's
something
that
is
related
to
something
that
we
discussed.
B
K
Already,
pending
litigation,
something
that
you
feel
the
commission
has
a
legal
question
about
what
you're
going
to
do.
That
could
affect
you
not
about
how
you're
going
to
take
action
here
today
or
how
to
interpret
this
code,
because
that's
that's
important.
We
we,
we
don't
really
have
much
reason
to
go
into
executive
session
in
this
particular
case.
That
doesn't
mean
that
we
don't
have
any
conceivable
reason,
but,
but,
mr
commissioner,
just
just
if
you
can
keep
that
in
mind,
I
can
certainly
probably
address
a
lot
of
the
questions.
I
It
seems
to
me
we're
tasked
with
two
separate
items.
You
know
to
make
a
motion
on
one
the
violations
of
section,
502,
504
and
505,
and
then
second,
what
type
of
penalty
and
final
we
would
apply,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
at
this
session,
that's
what
the
second
portion
that's
when
we
apply
it
after
making
the
the
first
determination
whether
there
was
a
violation
and
the
second
portion
is
to
apply
the
fines
that
you've
mentioned
earlier.
C
That's
correct:
you
first
you'd
have
to
make
a
finding
that
there
was
a
violation
correct
whether
it
was
intentionally
or
knowingly,
and
then
you
would
determine
what
the
just
remedy
would
be,
and
I
listed
out
all
of
the
things
that
would
be
relevant
for
you
all
to
do
in
this
particular
case.
F
The
question
then
becomes
for
me
in
terms
of
mining
out
some
type
of
disciplinary
action
is
that
trigger
where
he
knowingly
and
willfully
disregarded
the
notice.
That,
for
me,
is
what's
what
has
me.
You
know
concerned
about
how
I
go
forward
beyond
this,
but
I
think
for
me-
and
I
would
make
that
motion
that
that
there
was
a
violation
of
502,
503
and
505..
I
think
it's
504
504..
A
So
your
emotion
is
that
mr
catherine
did
in
fact
matter.
They
did
in
fact
violate
5.025,
b
and
5.05
correct,
correct.
F
But
it
was
up
to
a
point
where
he
didn't
necessarily
know
the
ordinance
and,
of
course,
that
absence
of
knowledge
of
the
law
is
not
a
defense.
The
the
statute
stood.
It
was
there
for
that
purpose
to
guide
anyone
who
does
business
with
the
city
as
a
lobbyist
that
is
advocating
for
a
third
party,
not
for
your
own
contractor
for
your
own
business,
but
as
a
as
a
lobbyist,
and
so
irrespective
of
whether
he
knew
or
didn't
know
there
was
a
violation,
that's
my
opinion.
F
So
if
that
needs
to
be
formed
in
a
in
a
form
of
emotion,
then
that's
my
motion
that
I
do
believe
that
a
violation
occurred
under
those
statutes
under
those
items
within
the
the
ethics
ordinance.
H
I
F
H
B
C
However,
in
order
to
do
that,
you
would
need
to
make
a
finding
that
it
was
intentionally
and
knowingly.
I
believe.
C
When
you
all
made
your
motion
right
now
that
violations
occurred
under
section
502,
504
and
505,
did
you
all
make
that
finding
also
that
it
was
intentionally
annoying?
Yes,
you.
F
C
Okay,
okay,
so
then,
now
that
you
have
made
that
that
finding
now
you
can
discuss
the
civil
sanctions
and-
and
if
there
is
something
that
you
do
all
need
clarification
on,
what
you
all
can
and
can't
do
to
impose
you
know
specifically
in
that
we
can
give
legal
advice
to
prevent
litigation
from
occurring.
A
A
I
think
the
options
that
have
been
mentioned
are
a
letter
of
reprimand,
a
referral
to
ethics
training,
a
fine,
as
ms
gustin
mentioned,
for
daily
fine
from
a
date
certain
forward,
some
sort
of
prohibition
of
no
law
being
with
the
city
of
laredo.
I
think
it's
not
to
exceed
three
years,
if
I'm
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
perhaps
administrative
reimbursement
to
the
city
of
louisville.
A
The
costs
occurred
because
of
this
proceeding
at
least
those
were
some
of
the
options,
oh
and
also
directing
staff
to
instruct
hr
about
the
finding
found
by
this
commission
with
respect
to
any
future
employment
with
the
city
of
laredo
and
or
to
any
other
entities
such
as
school
districts
or
the
county.
F
I'll
second,
that,
but
but
I,
but
I
would
like
to
add
to
that,
if
I
could
to
get
the
ocean
to
amend
the
emotion.
If
commissioner
zapata
would
allow
me,
I
do
believe
that
there
should
be
a
letter
of
reprimand
at
the
very
least
just
some
document.
That
said
more
than
these
proceedings
that
this
occurred
and
that's
it.
But
I
think
that
we
need
to
document
that,
at
the
very
least,
the
referral
ethics
training,
I
think,
will
open
the
door
for
him
to
understand
how
to
do
business
with
the
city.
F
I
think
there'll
be
some
things
that
that
good
will
come
out
of
this
for
those
who
want
to
engage
with
the
city,
and
I
also
believe
that
that
he'll
benefit
from
the
training
and
and
the
reprimand
just
stands
as
notice,
so
that
in
the
future,
those
who
witness
what
happened
here
today
would
avoid
doing
this
and
causing
the
city
all
the
things
that
we're
currently
going
through.
B
Mr
cameron,
I
I
accept
that
midway
through
a
motion.
K
H
H
It
sounds
like
these
are
very
wise
decisions
and
very
strong
educational.
We're
going
to
put
this.
How
about
there
is
a
fine
of
500,
but
it
will
be
waived
upon
completion
of
this.
That's
it.
In
other
words,
if
you
do
not
go
to
the
classes,
you
will
be
having
to
pay
a
fine.
You
will
be
prohibited,
but
if
you
attend
all
is
well,
I
like
those
type
of
orders
there
you
could
choose
whichever
route
you
want
to
go.
I
didn't
learn
anything
from
you
guys.
I
don't
care.
Okay,
fine!
There
are
the
consequences.
H
B
F
A
J
Yeah
now
do
we
have
no
one
question:
do
we
have
the
or
the
authority
to
be
able
to
to
ask
mr
patina
to
continue?
I
mean,
if
he's
going,
to
continue
with
this
to
register
as
soon
as
possible
as
a
lobbyist,
or
is
that
something
that's
going
to
come
up
again
later
on
if
he
continues
to
lobby
without
being
registered
and
we're
going
to
be
back
here
again,
here's.
I
F
C
Correct
he
would
he
would
have
to
register.
However,
I
wouldn't
recommend
that
be
something
that
you
all
do.
I
would
recommend
that
you
all
do
follow
at
the
very
least
section
three,
which
is
a
disqualification
from
contracting
or
lobbing
with
the
city
just
because
of
the
egregiousness
of
of
this,
but
that
that
would
just
be
my.