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Ethics Committee Meeting 061920
A
I
did
want
to
point
out
that,
pursuant
to
section
801,
I'm
chief
of
the
ethics
code
of
the
remaining
members,
cognition
that
were
not
present
today,
we're
not
permitted
under
the
code
to
take
part
in
this
agenda,
because
the
only
thing
on
the
agenda
is
a
report
that
involves
the
council
members
if
that
wanted
them.
So
that
is
the
reason
that
they
were
not
here
and
it's
not
because
they're
us,
and
so
that
should
encompass.
B
B
A
Physician
Christina
now
city
attorney
asking
an
ethics
compliance
officer
against
because
of
the
conflict
of
interest
with
the
nature
of
the
report
and
outside
counsel
has
been
appointed.
I
believe
that,
if
the
messengers
to
do
so
see,
even
though
it's
not
routine
and
it's
just
a
report,
I
thought
to
avoid
any
potential
conflict
of
interest.
I
went
ahead
and
appointed
outside
counsel,
so
at
this
time,
I
would
like
to
pass
it
to
the
outside
counsel.
That
he's
with
other.
B
D
My
name
is
Francis
Whitman
s
and
as
as
Hill
just
represented
to
you,
I
was
selected
as
outside
counsel
to
assist
in
evaluating
the
report.
That's
before
you
and
will
consider
today,
and
so
what
I
did
is
I
prepared,
a
report
that
is
in
this
blue
bound
folder
for
your
review
and,
with
your
permission,
I'd
like
to
go
over
the
facts,
the
sections
of
the
code
that
are
made
of
the
part
of
the
report
and
the
response
that
councilmember
my
penis
provided
in
the
report.
D
You
will
see
a
couple
of
tabular
few
chives
and
specifically
tab
a
is.
We
included
a
copy
of
councilmembers
monkey
missus
response
to
report
and
for
ease
of
reference
in
tab.
The
tab,
sea
and
Teddy
are
the
relevant
sections
of
the
code
that
are
made
a
part
of
that
report
and
the
allegations
that
were
raised
in
the
report
well
I'll
be
discussing
those
in
case.
You
need
to
refer
to
them.
The
language
is
there,
for
you,
review
you'll,
also
see
exhibit
1,
2
and
3.
D
Those
are
tabs
1,
2,
&,
3
and
those
are
the
exhibits
that
are
referenced
in
the
report
and
that
assisted
me,
I
guess
in
doing
the
evaluation.
So,
with
your
permission,
I'd
like
to
begin
the
the
report
that
is
filed
and
as
before,
new
consideration
today
was
prepared
by
mayor
food
science
and
Councilman
George
Al
guilt
and
Councilwoman
Nellie
Nederland.
The
report
alleges
that
were
some
violations
that
were
committed
by
councilmember
Martinez
at
a
city
council
meeting
held
on
June
10
2013,
specifically
the
that
meeting
was
held
before
City
Council
to
discuss
awarding
the
contract.
D
D
What's
important
about
the
allegations
was
the
councilman
Martinez
was
present
during
this
meeting
was
involved
in
the
deliberations,
ask
questions
of
the
representatives
from
Aetna
and
Blue
Cross
and
Blue
Shield
of
Texas
at
first
glance,
that
doesn't
that
seem
all
that
seems
but
working
his
duties.
However,
in
council,
member
of
my
team
is
admittedly
knew
that
he
was
was
considered
to
be
a
in-network
physician
for
both
Blue
Cross,
Blue,
Shield
and
FF.
D
D
Martinez
appears
as
a
pain,
management
specialist.
It
has
his
address.
His
contact
information
and
you
know
like
gives
the
insurer
the
ability
to
contact
his
office
to
schedule
opponents
so
significantly
in
the
report,
and
this
is
why
it's
it's
it's
a
it's.
It's
a
before
today
the
code
has
section
2.1
and
that's
the
first
section
that
I'd
like
to
go
over
with
you
today.
D
Section
2.1
in
order
to
not
have
a
conflict
of
interest,
requires
a
person
who
has
a
any
action
that
he
or
she
knows
will
likely
affect
the
economic
interest
of
that
person
and
I'll
discuss
what
that
means
in
terms
of
the
code
of
what
economic
interest
means.
The
second
section
that
I
want
to
cover
this
made
part
of
the
for
the
complaint
is
section
2.0
9
and
that
one
is
entitled
prohibited
interest
in
contract.
D
What
this
section
provides
is
a
little
bit
steeper.
It's
a
little
bit
more
intense,
a
little
bit
more
action
on
behalf
of
the
councilman
section.
209
makes
it
illegal
for
the
person
to
have
a
willful
relationship
with
a
party
that
contract
of
the
city,
and
if
you
find
that
there's
a
beautiful
violation
of
this
code
section
the
REME
is
that
that
person
has
to
be
released
from
the
position.
D
D
If
a
third
party
comes
before
the
city
to
offer
their
services
to
contract
with
the
city,
they
must
disclose
any
potential
conflict
in
relationship
that
that
company
that
third
party
may
have
with
a
city
official.
So
it's
a
very
serious
implication.
That's
raised
by
the
allegations
are
made
in
report
and
it's
important
that
we
discuss
that,
especially
in
regard
to
the
relationship
that
Blue
Cross
Blue
Shield
has
with
the
city
through
its
contract.
D
E
E
F
D
I
did
that's
what
nothing
is
yes,
and
so
during
the
course
of
that
that
conversation
I
specifically
wanted
to
find
out
a
little
bit
more
about
his
response
and
I
think
what's
important
about
it
and
then
we'll
get
into
it
in
the
discussion
is
what
was
the
state
of
mind
and
what
did
he
feel
was
his
role
in
duty
during
during
the
meeting
will
discuss
in
terms
of
his
knowledge
and
whether
he
acted
willfully
in
the
way
that
he
acted
or
did
not
act
pursuant
to
the
code?
Do.
D
He
expressed
interest
in
wanting
to
know
when
the
meeting
was
going
to
be
held
and
I
did
send
him
a
notice
of
a
meeting,
giving
him
an
opportunity
to
provide
them
with
additional
information.
I
specifically
asked
him
to
be
able
to
provide
me
the
contract
that
he
had
with
Blue
Cross
Blue
Shield,
and
to
give
you
further
information
about
what
kind
of
resources
he
has
been
generating
as
an
in-network
physician
across
relationship
I
did
notify
him
that
for
potential
conflicts
that
may
exist
and
his
opportunity
to
be
present.
A
This
is
a
report
and
not
a
complaint,
so
I
don't
believe
that
they
were
served
in
the
same
manner
that
you
know
they're
required
to
be
used.
So
I
don't
even
know
if
you
would
need
that
notice
that
but
the
requirements
as
well
as
the
complaint
I,
don't
know
the
baby.
Did
they
receive
that
notification
to
be
here
be
completed.
People
made
the
report
that.
A
E
E
D
That's
a
good
question
and
I:
don't
know
that
anybody
and
that's
something
that
I
think
is
very
important
for
you
to
consider
in
the
second
I.
Don't
know
that
that
the
council
remembers
knew
that
he
was
a
in
network
member,
certainly
councilmember
Martinez
did
know,
and
he
admitted
that
to
me
in
the
conversation
the
conversation
that
I
had
with
him,
he
is
listed
in
their
directory,
so
he
has
been
an
in-network
member
of
Blue,
Cross
and
Blue
Shield
between
eight
and
ten
years.
According
to
what
he
told.
G
D
So
the
first
section
that
I'd
like
to
go
over
is
2.01
I,
think
that's
the
simplest
one
and
that's
on
page
eight,
that's
what
the
legal
discussion
of
section
2.0
one
begins.
It's
fairly
straightforward.
It
just
says
to
avoid
a
conflict
of
interest,
the
appearance
of
a
risk
of
any
impropriety.
An
official
cannot
take
any
action
that
he
knows
is
likely
to
affect
this
economic
interest.
D
E
D
E
E
D
D
So
there
is
I
think
circumstantial
evidence
that
even
get
an
economic
economic
interest
he's
been
a
participating
doctor
for
eight
to
ten
years
and
there's
and
I'll
go
through
some
evidence
that
shows
that
he
has
been
paid
by
the
city
through
tml,
four
separate
type
of
in-house
coverage,
but
the
code
itself
makes
it
an
economic
interest
when
that
particular
councilmember
can
vote
to
approve
that
contract.
That
in
itself
is
an
economic
interest.
D
Okay
and
so
the
code
doesn't
require
that
he
have
to
prove
that
he
does
not
simply
by
the
fact
that
he
participated
the
vote.
He
has
an
economic
interest,
okay,
so
the
question
for
you,
then
is:
did
the
council
number
one
immediately
refrain
from
participating
and
he
did
not,
and
did
he
advise
the
council
that
he
had
this
conflict
now
he
told
me
that
he
did
and
in
the
report
that
he
fought
in
the
response
that
he
filed.
He
says
that
he
does
this
disclose
this
fact.
F
D
So
the
what
I
wanted
to
point
out
commissioners
was
that
the
there's
another
type
of
insurance
coverage
there
tml
that
the
city
has
when
there's
workers
compensation
claims.
That
is
a
completely
separate
type
of
insurance.
Not
the
insurance
that
we're
talking
about,
but
I
did
want
to
use
that
as
an
example,
because
we
do
have
evidence
of
payments
that
have
been
made
through
that
in-network
insurance
to
dr.
Martinez.
D
To
show
that
it
is
reasonable
to
suspect
that
he
has
also
been
paid
as
an
int
enough
in
network
position
for
Blue
Cross,
Blue,
Shield,
okay,
and
so
in.
What
I
did
was
I
did
contact
human
resources
and
they
were
able
to
provide
me
records
of
the
payments
that
have
been
made
an
exhibit
through.
You
will
see
charts
that
reflect
the
payments
that
have
been
made
to
councilmember
Martinez,
since
he
was
made
a
we
need,
since
he
was
a
became,
a
city
councilman
the
city's
records
through
chemo.
D
Again
this
is
a
separate
insurance,
but
some
evidence
of
value
he's
received.
Is
there
a
good
twenty
nine
payments
that
have
been
made
to
councilmember
my
penis
after
he
was
sworn
in
as
an
SS
councilman,
which
is
a
value
of
six
thousand
eight
hundred
sixty
three
dollars
and
payments
of
the
name?
Two.
F
D
Commit
to
yes,
commissioner,
there
is,
and-
and
we've
discussed
that
because
I
think
in
terms
of
the
the
remedial
measures
that
you
can
consider
and
I
think
this
is
the
proper
thing
to
do,
because
of
how
slippery
a
slope
or
talking
about
and
how
easily
it
is
to
fall
into.
The
economic
conflict
of
interest
is
based
on
the
evidence
that
I
have
I
think
that
that
would
be
the
proper
course
to
advise
councilmen.
D
I
mean
he
tells
that
the
council
members
asked
him
as
a
doctor.
You
think,
and
he
gives
his
opinion
so
I
think
his
heart
is
in
the
right
place.
But
I
just
don't
know
that
that
that
I
don't
think
anybody
can
expect.
You
looks
go
inside.
That
is
what
I'm,
saying
and
I
think
that
training
would
be
beneficial.
F
State
I
know
that
there
is
a
report,
work
communities
did
include
and
space,
we
never
got
an
update,
and
so
we
are
ears
of
volunteers
and
we
do
our
jobs
and
we
get
criticized
all
the
time
social
media
media
for
doing
this
type
of
job
is
very
difficult.
So
what
I
have
an
issue
is
when
people
actually
a
public
officials
who
do
this
to
hurt
our
community
as
a
whole,
and
so
that's
that's.
My
only
concern
is.
F
Why
is
it
that
public
officials
are
trying
to
hurt
our
community
by
making
this
report
public
before
needed
the
report
being
year?
Third,
fire
Commission?
So
that's
that's
my
two
cents
into
that
conversation
just
to
say
that,
because
I
think
that
this
commission
I
don't
know
how
people
understand,
but
there's
no
oversight.
There's
our
decision
is
final.
Is
our
decision
stats?
F
F
How
is
it
that
this
public
officials
make
this
before
public
before
people
to
review
it
or
do
anything,
so
that
would
be
another
ethics
violation
itself
that,
because
the
power
of
tool
line
to
remove
a
public
official
office
from
this
commission
is
a
very
powerful
message
to
this
community.
They
need
to
understand
what
this
Commission
started.
What
it's
for
and
I
hope,
none
of
us,
none
of
us
here,
just
finishing-
has
ever
done
anything
to
you
know
to
take
of
this
condition.
This
to
missing
is
a
serious
business.
F
D
The
section
of
the
second
section
and
the
commissure
get
your
message:
it's
not
lost
in
in
I.
Don't
think
that
I
don't
take
it
too
hard.
The
preamble
of
the
Code
of
Ethics
is
significant
and
I
reviewed
it
and
know
the
importance
of
this
Commission
I
think
that,
especially
in
a
democracy,
your
role
in
this
code
is
very
important
for
the
public
to
continue
to
have
trust
in
our
public
officials
and
I
certainly
took
that
to
heart.
D
When
I,
when
I
did
my
job
I
don't
know,
I
really
have
no
knowledge
of
what
happened
and
why
it
happened.
I
looked
at
this
in
terms
of
what
the
report
stated
and
looked
at
the
code.
I'm
sorry
I'm
not
privy
to
what
happened
for
any
political
reasons,
but
what
happened?
I
just
looked
at
the
code
and
what
was
alleged
and
I
can
only
tell
you
that,
based
on
what
I
read
and
what
was
before
me,
that's
my
analysis.
So
but
then
you're
right.
This
is
a
significantly
important
role
for
for
this
British
condition.
D
The
second
section
that
is
the
less
good
than
violated
is
2.09
and
in
in
this
particular
session,
as
you
mentioned,
Commissioner
you,
the
code
makes
it
improper
for
a
city
fishermen,
either
direct
or
indirect
financial
interest
in
any
contract,
and
we've
discussed
that
in
reference
to
section
2.0
one.
What
is
different
about
2.09
that
you
pointed
out,
Commissioner
was
the
remedial
measurement
and
in
this
particular
section,
if
you
find
that
there
was
a
willful
violation,
then
that
official
it
must
terminate.
D
D
D
I
looked
at
case
law
from
the
Texas
State
Commission
of
Judicial
Conduct,
and
this
particular
Commission
just
like
you
that
at
the
state
level
reviews
the
conduct
of
judges
to
make
a
determination
of
judges
have
violated
the
judicial
code
of
conduct,
the
ethics
code
for
judges
and
the
way
that
that
willful
is
defined
and
I.
Hope
that
serves
as
a
guide
for
you
in
making
this
determination
is
that
it
has
to
be
of
it'll.
Will
willful
means
bad
faith
within
exact
willful,
applicational
court-ordered
conduct
to
violate
the
law
and
I.
D
Think
this
is
where
that
analysis
of
councilman
month,
innocent
behavior
is
important,
because
when
you
see
him
in
that
in
that
commission
meeting,
he
generally
seems
concerned
that
word
of
warning
the
contract
to
the
best
bid
to
the
best
insurance
company,
that's
going
to
give
the
best
benefit
to
to
the
employees.
That's
apparent
if
this
were
a
willful
violation,
you
probably
would
see
him
hiding.
You
probably
wouldn't
see
him
at
the
forefront
of
those
discussions,
and
so
it's
your
decision,
but
I
just
don't
have
any
evidence
of
the
fact
that
he
acted
willfully.
D
What
I
talked
to
him-
and
this
is
where
I
think
he
has
a
genuine
misunderstanding.
He
sees
that
his
relationship
with
with
Blue
Cross
Blue
Shield
is
not
being
contractual.
You
know
where
she's
saying
look
I'm,
not
just
in
networking
and,
as
you
mentioned
her
a
commissioner
who
says
that's
the
way,
I
act
with
all
different
insurance
companies.
That's
the
way
the
physicians
work
with
these
companies,
not
understanding
that
there
is
an
economic
interest.
D
He
doesn't
see
it
as
a
contract
and
that's
fair
he's,
not
water
and
we
can't
hold
them
to
a
high
standard
of
knowing
it's
a
really
contractual
relationship.
We
have
an
economic
interest
that
is
is
is
difficult
for
me
to
to
press
upon
the
councilman,
so
I
don't
see
any
evidence
of
this
being
willful.
The
other
question
you
must
consider
in
2.09
is
then:
do
we
vitiated
the
contract?
We
cancel
the
contract
because
of
this,
and
what's
helpful
is
that
the
code
does
have
some
exceptions
to
it
and
what
the
code
tells
us
is
it.
D
If
there
was
only
one
bitter
then,
then
there
is
no
problem
in
making
sure
that
we
can
still
give
an
okay
to
that
contract.
Now,
in
this
case,
there
were
two
bit
well.
I
think
is
significant.
Is
that
council
member
was
an
in-house
Network
physician
for
both.
So,
whichever
way
he
voted
or
didn't
vote,
it
would
mean
so
I
think
that
that,
in
all
fairness,
I
don't
know
that
that
I
would
ever
consider
his
conduct
as
being
willful
and
and
I.
D
Think
that
there's
a
way
that
this
commission
can
look
at
this
contract
and
say
we
think
it's
fine.
We
think
it's
appropriate
to
let,
and
the
other
consideration
for
you
today
is-
is
this
contract
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city,
and
this
is
the
general
insurance
covered
for
all
employees
of
the
city.
E
D
I
know
that
the
city
employees
did
go
through
a
vetting
process
and
there
were
a
lot
of
different
considerations
that
went
into
the
selection.
I
only
know
that
were
two
bidders.
How
many
more
provided
it's
either,
but
it
does
look
like
this
was
a
a
long
process
and
there
were
a
lot
of
different
considerations
that
were
taking
into
account.
That
is
apparent.
F
F
F
D
F
D
Think-
and
this
is
important-
it
is
important
for
consideration.
The
way
that
Blue,
Cross
and
Blue
Shield
promoted
its
bit
was
that
it
was
saving
the
city,
seventy-three
cents
on
every
dollar.
So
it's
a
substantial
savings
to
the
the
employees
that
Blue,
Cross
and
Blue
Shield
will
be
chosen.
Idina
promoted
its
services
as
having
great
benefits
in
terms
of
being
able
to
provide
coverage
in
Mexico.
It
didn't
make
any
stipulations
that
it
would
agree
to
a
a
certain
percentage
of
savings
which
I
think
the
council
considered
and
ultimately
voted
for
Blue
Cross.
F
D
And
I
could
think
that
is
the
most
important
in
the
last
section
that
we
must
consider,
because
that
is
that
I
think
this
is
something
that
we
need
to
address.
Yes,
sir.
Yes,
there
were
two.
There
was
a
in
this
protect
case.
It
was
a
represent
for
Blue,
Cross
and
gentleman
that
they
represented
a
different
group.
It
didn't
say
endless
if
eclis,
but
if
it's
just
a
company
that
exists
in
these
bidding
process,
the
last
section
that
I
think
we
is
very
important
to
consider
and
because
of
who
is
involved,
this
is
section
4.0.
D
This
section
is
implied
to
have
been
violated
because
of
the
other
nations.
This
section
makes
it
improper
for
a
third
party,
any
comment
that
comes
before
the
City
Council
to
disclose
whether
or
not
there
is
in
conflict
of
interest
with
the
city.
Official
yeah
I
don't
have.
Admittedly,
I,
don't
have
any
direct
evidence
that
BlueCross
and
BlueShield
the
representative
that
made
an
appearance
before
the
Commission
before
the
Commissioner
that
skew
before
the
City
Council
knew
that
dr.
Martinez
was
an
in-house
or
in-network
physician,
I.
Don't.
D
This
is
the
indirect
evidence
it's
their
director,
Blue
Cross
and
Blue
Shield
has
direct
access
to
the
directory
of
all
the
physicians
that
are
in
their
network,
so
they
knew
in
Laredo.
Who
are
the
inner
work?
Network
physicians
are
only
three
or
four
pain
manifests
in
Loretto,
Blue,
Cross
and
Blue.
Shield
is
a
highly
sophisticated
insurance
company
that
goes
to
bid
to
a
lot
of
different
local
government
units,
their
services.
They
know
who
sits
in
the
council
chair
and
who
is
going
to
be
voting
on
that
contract.
C
D
I,
don't
have
direct
knowledge
or
evidence
that
they
knew,
but
they
should
know
they
should.
They
should
know
that
this
is
a
councilman.
That
is
a
physician.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
council
mightiness
was
wearing
his
scrubs
and
turn
the
the
council
meeting
and
and-
and
they
should
know
because
of
the
level
of
sophistication
of
company
that
there's
codes
like
this.
This
is
the
rate
was
nothing
like
municipality
that
has
ethical
codes
and
so
I
think
it's
fair
to
put
a
higher
standard
on
Blue,
Cross,
Blue,
Shield
and
I.
D
Think
this
is
where
the
Commission
can
speak
loudly,
that
whenever
there's
a
company
that
comes
before
City
Council,
that
they
do
their
due
diligence
and
that
they
disclose,
because
that's
a
duty,
that's
required
by
4.02.
These
companies
tell
the
commissioners
or
the
total
at
the
City
Council.
There
could
be
a
potential
conflict,
not
that
I'm.
D
It's
their
duty.
This
place
is
a
duty
on
that
third
party
to
to
disclose
that
information
and
so
I.
Would
you
know
if
there
was
a
remedial
measure
that
I
could
recommend
to
you?
It
would
be
to
prepare
a
letter
to
Blue
Cross,
Blue
Shield,
and
let
them
know
that
this
is
a
specific
section
of
our
code
and
that
they
have
a
duty
to
disclose
any
potential
conflict.
Then
they
arrives
in
their
dealings
with
the
city
because
outputs
the
city
in
a
difficulty.
A
C
D
F
D
Exceptions
and
I
would
be
cautious
about
terminating
because
of
the
fact
that
I
think
it's
the
good
outweighs
the
bad,
but
I
think
that
that
certainly
you're
in
your
right,
commissioner,
to
to
send
a
letter
a
strongly
worded
letter
to
BlueCross
BlueShield
advising
them
that
this
has
raised.
Some
serious
concerns
their
failure,
their
duty
to
disclose
information.
We.
D
So
perhaps
that's
something
that
you
would
like
to
consider
in
conclusion,
as
I
yeah
I
really
took
to
heart
reset,
because
I
feel
generally,
when
it
comes
to
our
of
this
I
used
to
be
on
a
State
Bar
Committee
for
ethical
violations
and
I
stood
as
a
chair
of
that
Commission
in
South
Texas,
for
for
our
district
and
so
I
have
a
section
of
the
rules.
Professional
Responsibility
in
my
desk
and
I
were
first
one
very
often
I.
Take
that
responsibility
the
ethical
responsibility
as
a
lawyer
to
heart.
D
When
you
spoke
about
the
importance
of
maintaining
that
level
of
integrity,
I
hear
you
I
understand,
and
so
in
conclusion,
I
want
you
to
know
that
I
find
that
this
job
very
important,
and
even
though
it's
not
rewarded
publicly,
it
is
a
paramount
importance
that
we
maintain
that
level
of
ethical
standards.
In
conclusion,
if
you
have
any
questions,
I
happy
to
answer,
if.
D
Let
me
tell
you
that
would
have
been
something
that
if
we
had
more
time
I
would
have
considered,
but
I
think
there
are
sufficient
there
sufficient
information
there
in
litigation.
Sometimes
we
go
through
an
exhaustive
discovery,
and
so
you
always
want
to
try
to
find
out
more,
but
do
the
constraint
of
times
I
think
that
what
we
have
I
think
is
sufficient
to
make
the
recommendations
in
the
filings
that
I
have.
D
I
would
have
had
the
opportunity-
let's
say
this
was
a
case
in
court
and
I
go
through
the
whole
discovery
process.
That
can
be
lengthy.
That
is
discovery
that
I
would
have
wanted
to
do.
I
would
like
to
ask
this
representative
for
emails,
internal
email,
emails
of
any
investigations.
They
did
any
information
they
have
about.
The
persons
that
were
sitting
on
the
council
do.
D
F
F
D
F
So
they're
kind
of
blindsided
in
saying
they're
trying
to
do
this
contract
that
in
essence
they
know
that
the
doctor
has
been
networked,
and
so
that
is
a
selfie
being
you
they're
doing
an
ambitious,
be
trying
to
say
hope
all
that's
gonna
see
read
or
hear
it
or
not
good
at
all
or
no,
the
doctor
isn't
grubs
and
console
is
kind
of
its
kind
of
obvious.
Yes,
it
is,
you
know
well.
B
E
D
D
B
A
B
D
E
D
A
E
H
H
When
I
got
when
I
was
elected,
I
was
elected
as
any
position.
I
was
a
practicing
physician
that
that
took
every
single
major
insurance
and
you
guys
had
a
question
about
how
many
insurance
and
tape
it
probably
about
a
hundred
insurance,
everything
from
workers,
compensation
through
sickness
and
every
insurance,
because
that's
my
job
is
to
ensure
that
I
can
take
care
of
the
patients
already
when
I,
when
I
got
on
council
I
kept
practicing
in
a
position
and
both
roles.
H
When
this
came
to
the
attention
of
Council,
this
bid
had
been
placed
before
I
think
I,
even
done
counsel
mistaken,
and
so
this
was
the
tail
light
of
a
very
large
discussion.
So
I'm
not
sure
whether
there
was
really
any
way
for
any
of
the
companies
to
have
known
that.
That
I
was
a
council
member
as
well
as
a
physician
to
the
very
end
after
they
had
submitted
the
proposals
most
likely
and
all
that
mrs.
Hale
talked
to
that
or
the
HR
director
talked
to
them.
Now.
H
As
far
as
myself,
when
I
was
sitting
here
debating
this,
ultimately,
what
I
was
trying
to
decide
is
what
was
going
to
be.
The
most
cost
effective
and
beneficial
contract
for
the
city
of
already,
not
just
for
the
cigarette.
What
my
duty
was
to
protect
the
employees
of
that
was
my
duty.
As
I
sat
there,
I
was
asked
to
get
to
get
my
opinion
as
a
physician
who
is
a
practicing
physician
who
takes
insurances
of
all
major
carriers,
they
felt
that
I
was
a
expert.
C
H
G
H
H
From
pain,
medicine
orthopedics,
they
all
have
the
exact
same
right
to
go
in
and
apply
so
there
is
no
advantage
or
exclusivity
and
what
I
do
if
anybody
can
do
this?
Any
physician
can
do
this
as
long
as
they
have
their
their
proper
of
medical
malpractice
or
toddler
insurance
and
so
to
me.
Obviously,
I
did
not
find
at
the
time
anything.
G
H
That
I
was
doing
anything
that
was
in
direct
conflict.
That
was
into
a
conflict
of
my
duty,
as
I
said
a
council
member
to
ensure
that
the
constituents
of
the
district,
the
constituents
of
the
city,
the
economics
of
the
city
and
the
employees
of
the
city
received
the
best
deal
possible
and
that's
what
I
fought
for
and
that's
what
I
was
asked
to
do
by
my
fellow
council
members.
G
H
H
Why
did
that
change
when
people
were
asking
me
to
give
my
opinion
to
change
later,
to
say
that
that
was
valid,
and
so
what
I?
Don't
like
as
I
stand
here
before
you
at
any
time
that
this
this
commission
is
weaponless.
What?
If
the
mission
is
well
and
I'm,
it
loses
the
substance
and
so
I
defend
myself
to
the
will,
as
I
said
it
on
when
I
was
approached
by
the
media.
H
Some
are
lawyers,
some
real
estate
agents,
others
have
business
experience,
I'm
a
physician.
This
was
my
time
to
give
of
my
expertise
and
I
did
just
like
the
decoded
response.
That
was
my
time
to
give
of
my
expertise
and
I
did
so.
That's
all
I
have
to
say,
but
I
will
answer
any
questions
of
the
Commission
yeah.
H
E
F
F
F
A
G
H
F
On
the
name,
the
report
of
the
records
of
the
ethics
compliance
officer
reporting
the
Ethics
Commission
to
find
it
and
recommend
the
city
attorney's
office,
investigate
if
sufficient
evidence
exists
and
prepare
a
report.
I
get
any
discussion
who
or
what
parties
involved
in
just
building
the
information
of
ethics
by
nation
to.