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Historic District Landmark Board Meeting 031121
A
B
B
I
am
not
the
chair,
we
don't
have
a
chair
right
now,
so,
as
I
explained
previously
to
the
board
members
we'll
be
acting
as
the
chair
for
the
first
few
items
until
we
elect
a
chair
and
then
from
that
point,
whoever
is
elected
as
our
chairperson
will
continue
running
from
them.
So
the
first
thing
I'd
like
to
do
is
call
a
roll
call
vanessa.
If
you
could,
please
call
me.
D
B
E
Hi
mark
gonzalez,
a
local
attorney
here
here
in
laredo
good
to
meet
everybody
glad
to
be
on.
F
D
Believe
hello
wayne
nance,
I'm
an
engineer
here
in
town
I
work
at
porras
engineering
and
I'm
was
appointed
by
reuben
councilman
reuben
and
that's
district
six
right.
Here's
district
five.
B
B
B
A
Kirby,
we
don't
do
the
we
don't
approve
the
minutes.
B
B
Okay
thanks
dan
thanks
for
checking
mr
green
okay
hearing
only
two
all
right.
Let's
start
with
miss
sepulveda
who
was
nominated
first.
Can
I
get
a
a
vote
by
yay
or
nay?
Well,
no
name,
justin
yay.
If
you
would
like,
mr
as
your
chairperson,
yay.
B
B
I
Yes,
I
would
like
to
entertain
a
motion
for
no
I'd
like
to
entertain
nominations
for
vice
chairperson.
I
I
Thank
you
very
much
all
right.
Let's
move
on
item
five
approval
of
minutes.
Mr
snyderman,
do
you
have
them
on
the
screen
for
us
to
review,
because
I,
I
don't
think
many
of
us
had
an
opportunity
to
review
them
in.
I
B
Sorry,
miss
chairperson.
I
just
realized
how
commuted
if
we
can,
can
we
move
on
to
business
comments
and
I'll
get
that
queued
up
so
that
you
can
see
it
for.
B
Yes
ma'am:
this
is
being
broadcast,
live
on
spectrum,
channel,
1300
and
live
on
the
website.
There
is,
however,
a
lag
of
a
couple
minutes,
so
if
we
could
leave
this
up
for
a
couple
minutes
this
phone
number
and
if
we
receive
any
calls
from
the
public,
we
will
alert
you
if
we
don't
alert
you.
There
are
no
calls
from
the
public.
So
if
we
can
leave
that
up
for
a
bit
we'll
get
the
minutes
of
you
as
well
during
that
during
this
time,.
I
Board
members,
if
you
have
had
an
opportunity
to
review
the
minutes,
I
would
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
as
presented.
D
B
Correct,
yes,
we
don't
have
any
items
on
the
agenda.
There
were
no
applications
that
were
submitted
in
time
for
this
meeting,
but
I
thought
it'd
be
a
good
opportunity,
one
so
that
we
could
elect
new
officers
and
also
we
could
have
a
little
bit
of
time
to
talk
about
direction
going
forward.
We
have
some
new
members
and
with
some
new
developments
on
the
staff
side
for
the
historic
district.
So
if
you'd
like
I'd
like
to
give
a
presentation,
it
should
take
about
15
minutes
and
then
some
questions
either.
B
So,
with
this
presentation,
I'd
like
to
give
you
just
a
really
brief
review
of
the
purpose
of
historic
districts.
Talk
a
little
about
the
history
of
historic
districts
here
in
laredo
and
historic
preservation.
Laredo
talk
generally
about
some
of
the
challenges
I've
seen
is
I've
been
here.
The
last
couple
of
years
with
the
historic
district
program
as
it
is
talk
about
opportunities
that
there
are
for
the
future
and
then
be
specific
on
those
changes
that
I'm
I'm
proposing
would
like
to
get
your
input
on.
B
So,
first
of
all,
talking
about
the
purpose
of
historic,
historic
districts.
You
know
historic
preservation
is
something
that's
been
going
on
for
a
long
time
when,
when
the
romans
would
move
into
a
new
area,
they
they
you
know
often
would
encourage
some
preservation
of
historic
structures
they
found.
So
that's
at
least
2
000
years
old,
of
some
amount
of
historic
preservation.
B
Individuals
have
been
preserving
buildings
of
value
for
a
long
time,
but
historic
preservation
program
in
the
in
the
united
states
are
relatively
new
the
last
few
decades,
and
the
purpose
of
historic
districts
is
generally
to
do
two
things
to
do
one
or
two
things:
not
all
historic
districts.
Do
both
some
historic
districts
just
do
one,
but
the
first
is
to
preserve
the
historic
truck
structures.
B
B
So,
typically
with
these
two
things,
they
have
slightly
different
aims
individually,
but
together
some
historic
districts
do
both
an
example
of
historic
vernacular,
just
to
explain
that
a
little
more
if
any
of
y'all
have
been
to
santa
fe
new
mexico,
you've
seen
that
they
have
pueblo
and
pueblo
revival,
there's
it's
very
a
very
it's!
It's
not
easy
to
miss.
You
know
a
lot
of
architecture.
You
can
look
at
and
not
realize.
Oh,
that's
that
that's
this
certain
architectural
style!
B
This
is
very,
very
unique,
and-
and
so
those
of
you
who
visited,
probably
noticed
that
that
oh
there's
something
different
about
santa
fe
and
when
somebody
builds
new
structures
there
in
their
districts
that
have
this,
they
want
to
preserve
that
architectural
style.
So
they're
not
just
interested
in
preserving
the
historic
structures,
but
they
want
to
perpetuate
that
style
because
it's
so
predominant
in
the
community.
B
B
Predominant
style:
well,
I'm
glad
I'm
stumping
you
because
there
there
isn't
there
isn't
a
historic
vernacular.
There
isn't
a
predominant
style.
What
there
is
is
a
mix
of
many
architectural
styles
and
colors
and
materials,
and
for
anybody
familiar
with
the
three
historic
districts
that
are
here
could
easily
recognize
that
for
the
history
of
the
laredo,
the
lorenos
historic
districts,
you
know
their
preservation.
Efforts
are
many.
A
B
Old
in
laredo,
formally
starting
as
far
as
I
could
tell
in
the
1970s
and
I'm
sure
christina,
could
speak
to
the
history
of
her
organization,
which
predates
what
we
do
over
here
at
the
city
and
but
the
the
rules
that
we
currently
have.
Those
were
put
in
place
in
the
1990s
first,
the
historic
district
ordinance
that
outlined
the
rules
for
the
historic
district
and
and
then
were
amended
and
then
historic
preservation
plan
that
was
produced
in
19
produced
and
adopted
in
1996
and
historic
urban
design.
Guidelines
which
followed
in
1997..
B
Now
speaking
of
some
of
the
challenges
of
the
historic
district
that
that
I've
seen
as
I've
been
here
a
couple
of
years
and
feel
free
to
chime
in
and
speak
to
this,
you
know
if
you
want
to
share
any
of
your
input,
but
has
the
the
last
three
decades
of
historic
district
led
to
improvement
of
the
area.
The
challenge
is
with
the
historic
district.
B
If
you,
if
you
were
for
those
of
you
that
were
here
in
the
1990s
and
you
look
at
the
number
of
properties
and
the
conditions
of
those
properties
in
the
downtown
or
in
the
in
the
three
historic
districts
you
might
ask
yourself
has
has,
has
the
program
met
its
goal
of
improving
the
condition
of
these
properties?
I
think
some
we've
seen
some
improvement
in
the
properties,
but
many
of
the
properties
in
these
in
these
districts
have
seen
a
lot
of
decline
and
there's
a
lot
of
reasons
for
that.
B
It's
not
it's
not
all
on
the
program.
It,
I
think,
has
a
lot
to
do
with
the
economics
of
of
laredo,
where
some
cities
in
texas
have
seen
a
revival
of
their
of
their
their
downtowns
and
their
urban
cores.
Radio
hasn't
for
for
several
reasons-
and
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
reasons
probably
is
that
you
know
where
a
lot
of
cities
bottomed
out
in
the
1970s
1980s
in
terms
of
the
value
of
properties.
Downtown
laredo
was
kept
afloat
because
of
the
demand
for
wholesaling
in
downtown.
B
A
lot
of
properties
could
be
purchased
and
and
used
as
warehousing
or
associated
with
full
selling,
and
that
cape
that
kept
price
is
very
high,
but
it
was.
It
was
a
unique
situation
because
the
people
who
are
purchasing
a
lot
of
these
properties
involved
in
that
business
didn't
need
to
necessarily
make
the
properties
look
better
because
they're
selling
to
wholesalers
they're
not
selling
to
it's,
not
a
retailer.
It's
not
somebody
who's
selling
to
an
end
customer.
It's
somebody
who's
just
selling
to
another
business
person
who's,
then
taking
that
using
it
somewhere
else.
B
That's
not
the
entire
reason.
That's
maybe
just
part
of
the
reason
why
property
value
has
been
have
been
kept
up
and
the
challenge
with
property
values
not
bottoming
out
is
what
you
saw
in
houston,
san
antonio
dallas,
san
angelo,
a
lot
of
corpus,
christi
properties
bottom
out,
and
then
it
took
time
for
reinvestment
to
come
back
in,
but
usually
when
properties
are
low
people
that
are
creative
artists.
B
You
know
new
owners,
new
restaurants,
things
can
come
in
a
relatively
low
investment
and
then
make
change
that
then
others
find
trendy
and
attractive
and
join
into
that,
and
that
cycle
hasn't
quite
happened.
The
same
way
in
mourinho.
Another
challenge
that
the
the
reputation
of
the
historic
district
discourages
investment.
Now
I
don't
want
any
of
you
to
take
that
personally,
because
I
know
some
of
you
have
been
involved
with
this
board
for
several
years.
B
That's
not
in
any
way
meant
to
to
to
speak
to
anybody
or
any
group
I
mean
the
city
has
as
much
as
responsibility
as
anybody
in
that,
but
it
is
a
reality.
I
get
calls
from
people
from
the
city
and
from
outside
the
city.
Who
will
call
me
and
and
ask
me
if
a
property
is
in
historic
district
and
when
I
tell.
B
When
I
first
got
these
calls,
when
I
started
as
a
planning
director
a
couple
of
years
ago,
I
was
excited
because,
because
I
I
love
the
historic
downtown,
it's
a
big
reason
of
why
I'm
here
in
laredo,
why
I
decided
to
come.
So
I
was
excited
to
hear
people
call
and
say:
hey.
This
is
property,
historic
district
and
I'm
thinking
they
want
to
get
involved
in
the
program,
and
when
I
told
them
it
was
they
they
said.
Okay,
good!
I'm
glad
you
told
me,
I
I
don't
want
to
be
there.
B
B
Still,
though,
it
has
that
reputation
of
being
a
roadblock
be
an
obstacle,
and
I
I
believe
we
need
to
change
that,
because
somebody's
making
an
investment
just
the
risk,
the
risk,
the
possibility
that
it's
not
going
to
work
is
enough
to
keep
them
away,
and
they
need
to
be
reassured
that
it
it's.
This
is
not
a
roadblock.
Instead,
it's
something
that
can
incentivize
investment
in
their
investment.
B
Another
challenge
that
the
ordinance
lacks
clarity,
there's
some
confusion
over
what
the
rules
are
and
how
it
applies.
We're
going
to
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
and
and
specifically
about
the
confusion
of
what
requires
approval,
and
I
brought
that
to
the
board
several
months
ago
last
year,
and
and
what
I
was
told
is
that
you
want
to
continue
with
how
it's,
how
it's
being
how
the
tradition
was,
and
that
is
any
change
of
historic
property
needs
to
come
to
this
door.
For
what
do
you
really
mean
any
change?
B
If
somebody
wants
to
put
in
a
tree,
somebody
wants
to
put
up
a
birdhouse
if
somebody
wants
to
put
up
a
mailbox
if
somebody
wants
to
attach
a
to
get
cable,
and
so
the
cable
box
has
to
go
on
the
house,
they
have
to
come
first
historic
approval
for
that.
That's
a
change!
B
B
There's
a
lot
of
properties
not
complying
with
this
ordinance.
That's
a
big
challenge
and
because
enforcement
in
the
city
is
done
by
complaints,
you
know
we
don't
have.
We
don't
have
zoning
officers
that
go
and
drive
around
the
city.
Looking
for
for
issues,
we
just
don't
have
enough
staff
to
do
that.
So
we
take.
You
know
we
respond
to
complaints
and
because
of
that,
the
enforcement
isn't
equal.
We've
got
a
few
people
in
the
district
over
the
years
who
have
been
serial.
B
Reporters
is
what
I'll
call
them
and
they've
been
reporting
on
people
that
they
they're
not
reporting
on
everybody.
How
it
appears
is
they're
reporting
on
people,
they
don't
like
they're,
not
reporting
on
everybody
in
the
district,
and
so
what
you'll
find
is
that
some
people
get
free
reign
to
to
do
what
they
want
to
their
properties
and
others.
They
try
to
make
one
small
change,
they
get
reported,
they
get
cited
and
they
have
to
come
for
this
to
work
for
it.
That's.
B
And
it
shouldn't
be
that
way
and
then
also
another
challenge
that
the
historic
district
boundaries
don't
reflect,
the
public's
perception
of
what
is
historic.
You
know
what
the
historic
neighborhood
would
be
in.
B
You
ask
the
public:
hey
where's,
the
st
peter's
historic
district.
You
know
they
would
say-
maybe
oh
saint
peter's
square,
and
you
know
those
nice
homes
around
saint
peter's
square
and
maybe
down
a
couple
of
those
streets,
but
if
I
showed
him
the
boundaries,
the
large
boundaries
of
those
properties
and
how
many
properties
are
included,
that
I
think
the
vast
majority
of
people
at
least
the
ones
I
showed
it
to
that
didn't
know
before,
were
very
surprised
to
see
how
big
that
that
was
now.
B
Let's
talk
about
some
opportunities,
some
things
that
have
been
happening,
there's
interest,
there's
I
I
would
say
significant
interest
in
in
property,
these
properties,
downtown
for
restaurants,
for
airbnbs,
for
small
offices
and
even
for
housing
in
these
historic
districts,
and
some
of
it
is
a
little
bit
of
a
start
to
happen.
But
when
I
say
interest
I
mean
there's
calls
people
are
making
calls
and
we're
hearing
about
people
wanting
to
purchase
properties
and
wanting
to
look
in
these
areas.
B
B
There
are
other
people
who
are
buying
homes
in
the
area,
I'm
one
of
those
I
purchased
a
home
in
the
historic
district
and-
and
so
you
know
it's
of
interest
to
me
to
to
see.
If
I
see
any
new
people
walking
around
just
the
other
day
I
I
walked.
I
met
somebody
who's,
a
new
employee
at
the
the
district
court
and
he
I
saw
him
always
walking
back
and
forth,
and
I
just
I
said
hello
to
him
the
other
day
and
said:
hey:
do
you
live
in
the
neighborhood?
B
He
says
yeah,
you
know
I
hate
commuting.
It's
just
my
same
reason
why
I
want
to
live
so
close
to
work,
because
you
know
I
get
so
stressed
out
when
I
have
to
commute
and
he
said
yeah,
I'm
going
to
be
looking
for
something,
but
he
said:
oh,
it's
so
hard
to
find
something
down
here
and
you
know
there
aren't.
There
aren't
a
lot
of
properties
that
come
up
well.
One
really
interesting
development
is
that
lasd
laredo
school
district,
they're
vacating
several
properties.
B
C
B
All
those
properties,
almost
all
the
buildings
that
they
own
in
the
saint
peter's
area
this
summer,
when
they
move
into
their
their
new
administration
building
and
I've,
been
working
with
the
the
district
to
say,
hey
the
way
you
did
it
last
time
where
you
did
a
blind
bid.
You
know
there
is
another
way
you
could
do
it.
B
You
could
do
an
open
bid
and
you
could
even
put
conditions
on
the
bid
so
that
the
people
who
buy
them
have
to
be
homeowners
or
they
have
to
be
property
owners,
business
owners
that
are
actually
going
to
be
there.
Not
somebody,
that's
going
to
hold
it
and
I'm
hoping
to
present
to
their
board
pretty
soon
about
this,
and
I
and
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
tell
them
we're
making
some
new
developments
in
the
historic
district
to
make.
B
Those
challenges
that
we
have
so,
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
proposed
changes.
First
of
all,
we
have
a
new
historic
preservation
officer,
vanessa
guerra,
who
is
probably
our
most
experienced
planner
here
in
the
city.
It
was
I
needed
someone
who
could
take
this
on
and
do
a
fantastic
job
with
it.
B
So
I'm
really
excited,
as
has
accepted,
that
responsibility
and
she's
our
historic
preservation,
officer
and
she's,
hit
the
ground
running
and
doing
a
fantastic
job
working
with
working
with
the
applicants
that
we've
had
and
also
helping
with
the
program
vanessa.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
if
you
want
to
jump
in
and
say
anything,
introduce
yourself
to
the
to
the
board.
C
Good
afternoon
vanessa
guerra,
as
kirby
said,
I've
been
with
the
city
with
the
planning
department
for
over
20
years,
and
I
started
out
with
current
planning
and
doing
zoning
and
board
of
adjustment
writing
ordinances,
and
I
had
never.
I
didn't
subsequently
did
transportation
transportation
planning
for
15
years,
so
this
is
a
new
challenge.
This
is
definitely
very
exciting.
B
Yes,
thank
you
vanessa
and
one
other
change
that
I've
already
implemented.
Is
that
there's
no
more
administrative
approval
there?
There
was
nothing
in
the
ordinance
that
allowed
us
to
do
that.
What
we
were
doing
by
tradition,
I
tried
to
look
up
how
long
we've
been
doing
it.
It
seems
like
I've
been
doing
it
for
several
years.
B
However,
what
we
were
requiring
someone
do
is
to
submit
to
us
to
to
demonstrate
that
it
was
what
they
were
doing
was
repair
and
maintenance.
That's
not
something
we
do
for
anything
else.
In
other
words,
if
someone
asks
us
hey,
can
I
do
this
permitted
use
in
this
zone,
and
we
say
well
here
are
the
rules
and
they
say
okay,
you
know,
can
I
do
that?
Can
I
do
a
restaurant
in
this
zone?
B
You
know
if
they,
if
what,
if
we
explain
the
rules
of
what's
repair
and
maintenance,
it's
up
to
them
to
decide
whether
or
not
they
need
to
submit
an
application
in
historic
board.
I
mean
it's
very
clear
if
it's
not
if
it's
not
repair
maintenance
and
it
needs
to
be
submitted.
B
So
some
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
ask
you
all
about
is
meeting
dates
on
demand.
So
right
now
and
I'm
going
to
get
to
this-
it's
actually
the
next
item
after
this
presentation
right
now,
the
way
that
we
have
our
meeting
dates,
it's
set
up
on
a
monthly
occurrence
and
there's
a
deadline
for
applications,
and
some
sometimes
it
might
take
as
many
as
six
weeks
for
somebody
to
submit
something.
So,
let's.
B
And
you,
you
know,
you
see
a
nice,
you
know
mailbox
you'd
like
to
attach
to
your
home.
B
Somebody
submits
something
we
can
get
them
within
two
weeks
before
the
board
and
also
I'd
like
to
look
at
changing
the
noticing
requirements.
Right
now.
Our
ordinance
requires
that
we
notice
it
like
we
do
a
zone
change.
The
state
of
texas
requires
zone
changes
for
us
to
mail
out
to
all
the
property
owners
within
200
feet,
to
do
that.
It's
a
10-day
noticing
requirement
by
the
state
of
texas.
Now
all
of
our
meetings
require
72
hours
notice.
That's
what
I'd
like
to
require
for
this
meeting.
B
For
instance,
if
you
were
going
to
put
a
restaurant
next
door
to
you,
you
know
that's
going
to
have
a
significant
impact
in
terms
of
traffic
and
other
things
on
the
neighborhood,
whereas
this
isn't,
and
so
it
shouldn't
have
the
same
threshold
as
a
zoning
case.
It's
also
a
way
we
can
speed,
speed
things
up
in
terms.
D
B
An
application
not
taking
so
long
and
then
with
our
historic
preservation
officer
and
the
long-range
planning
staff
that
we
have
I'm
really
excited.
Now
we
finally
have
the
staff
where
we
can
go
through
a
historic
preservation
plan,
update
and
with
with
new
design
guidelines
or
updated
design
guidelines,
and
we
can
update
the
ordinance
in
full.
That
would
that's.
That
would
be,
in
my
mind,
like
a
year-long
process.
That
would
take
a
lot
of
effort.
B
Public
involvement,
a
lot
of
public
outreach
to
the
historic
district
residents
and
business
owners,
and
so
that's
not
something
we
could
do
soon,
but
that's
something
we
want
to
start
with
your
support
and
definitely
your
involvement
in
that
really
excited
about
that,
and
then
also.
I
would
ask
this
board
to
consider
in
the
future
updating
the
boundaries
and
the
reason
I'll
ask
you
to
do
that
I'll
hold
that
off
just
for
a
second.
B
But
I
would
I
want
to
say
it's
because
when,
if
well
I'll
hold
just
for
a
second,
but
basically
what
I,
what
I
want
to
accomplish
is
to
begin
an
effective
preservation
program
and
a
campaign,
a
preservation
campaign
that
incentivizes
instead
of
penalizes
and
what,
if
I
could
boil
it
all
down
into
one
simple
thing.
What
I
want
to
do
is
more
carrot
and
less
stick.
B
Now
the
carrot
approach
or
the
stick
approach
is
we
have
rules
and
we
penalize
when
people
don't
meet
the
rules,
every
change
that
someone's
going
to
do
their
property
requires
approval
and
then
and
that
we
have
design
that
the
board
has
design
authority
over
property
owners.
Now
again,
remember
in
the
beginning,
when
I
showed
you
that
we
don't
have
a
historic
vernacular
in
laredo,
and
so
in
my
mind
it
doesn't
make
sense.
B
While
we
do
want
to
his
preserve
historic
structures,
definitely
the
the
value
of
the
historic
structures
we
want
to
make
sure
they
stay
for
years
to
come
for
generations
to
come.
I
don't
see
how
we
have.
We
should
have
the
authority
of
design
control
over
new
improvements
that
are
made
in
the
district.
B
What
we're
generally
doing
is
we're
discouraging
new
investment
leader,
and
I
think
you
could
arguably
say
that's-
that's
the
history
of
these
last
three
decades
of
this
program.
That's
that's
the
reputation
it
has
and
it's
there
for
a
reason.
Well,
not
in
every
case,
as
miss
viral
points
out,
a
lot
of
things
get
approved,
there's
enough
of
a
roadblock
that
it
does
have
that
reputation
and
it
is
discouraging
investment.
I
would.
F
B
We
need
to
take
more
of
a
carrot
approach
with
this.
Every
historic
district
is
unique
and
in
laredo
one
of
the
big
challenges
here
is:
are
the
economics,
the
income
that
or
the
the
financial
resources
that
property
owners
have
limits?
What
can
be
done
and
what
we
want
to
make
sure
is
that
we
we
protect
the
historic
structures
and
the
only
significant
changes
that
would
affect
those
historic
properties.
That's
what
we're
restricting,
but
instead
what
the
purpose
of
this
district
and
board
is
there
to
do
is
to
preserve
to
incentivize
to
instruct
to
train.
B
Just
imagine
it.
If
somebody
was
interested
in
a
property
they
could
call
up
here,
we
could
have
resources
for
them.
On
programs,
we
could
find
funding
special
funding
for
facade
improvement.
We
can't
do
that
if
we
have
so
many
properties
in
this
historic
district,
because
they're
so
big,
but
imagine
if
the
districts
were
a
bit
smaller
and
the
number
of
properties
weren't
in
the
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
properties,
but
maybe
more,
you
know
in
a
smaller
range
that
could
be
dealt
with
and.
B
For
facade
improvement,
property
improvement
and
somebody
somebody
could
come
and
and
if
they
had
a
property,
the
red
carpet
was
rolled
out,
we
would
meet
them
at
their
property.
We
could
show
them
about
what
materials
they
could
use
and
where
they
could
find
these,
and
basically,
we
would
be
here
to
assist
a
special
assistance
program
for
property
owners
in
these
districts.
B
Then,
all
of
a
sudden,
it
creates
an
incentive
where
people
are
going
to
be
wanting
to
be
a
part
of
this
district,
because
there
are
financial
resources,
there
are
staff
resources
there
there's
all
kinds
of
resources
there
for
them
in
this
program
so
that
well,
hopefully,
it
would
create
renewed
interest
to
bring
new
investment
to
this
area
now.
Will
it
bring
new
activity
at
will?
That's
always
one
of
the
challenges
of
a
program
where
an
area
gets
popular.
B
You
know
if
you
look
at
what's
happening
in
other
cities
in
those
areas
that
get
popular
like
fredericksburg,
texas,
their
historic
preservation
program,
one
that
incentivizes
not
penalizes
has
become
very
popular
and
it's
it's
added
a
lot
of
restaurants
and
offices
and
areas
where
that
creates
some
conflict
with
the
existing
residents.
But
to
me
is
much
worse
to
have
vacant
buildings,
because
vacant
buildings
deteriorate
vacant
buildings
are
the
worst
thing
you
could
do
to
a
historic
district
because
they
they
get
ill-used
and
they
fall
apart.
Yeah.
E
B
E
E
It?
Doesn't
it's
not
fair
if
you
actually
live
there
and
go
through
it,
and
I
wish
more
people
that
more
of
us
that
are
are
making
these
decisions
could
understand
that
and
look
at
it
and
put
yourself
in
those
shoes.
Why
do
I
have
to
wait
six
weeks
to
paint
my
porch
and
pay
300
wait
six
weeks
and
maybe
get
a
no
it's
it's
I
don't.
I
don't
see
how
that's
fair
to
somebody.
That's
investing
as
much
money
as
I've
invested
into
this,
the
preservation
of
laredo.
B
G
B
B
And
the
reality
is
it's
not
happening,
it's
not
happening
and
we're
only
enforcing
on
a
few.
So
what
I
would
ask
is
that
we
that
only
permitted
activity-
and
that
is
how
I
read
the
ordinance
if
it
requires
a
building
permit
then,
and
it's
a
change,
so
it's
not
repair
and
maintenance.
Then
it
has
to
come
to
the
historic
board
for
approval
and
in
the
future,
as
we
go
through
the
plan.
Maybe
we
change
that
even
more,
maybe
we
adapt
that.
B
Maybe
we
put
in
some
preset
guidelines
that,
if
you
need
that
you
don't
need
to
come
to
it,
but
for
right
now
I
would
ask-
and
this
is
really
important
right
now,
because
of
this
recent
freeze-
that
we
have.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
making
repairs
in
the
district
that
technically
all
need
to
come
to
the
historic
board
for
approval.
What
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
tell
them
is
only
if
it's
a
building
permit.
Do
you
need
historical.
B
A
building
permit
and
it's
not
repairing
maintenance.
So
then,
and
then
so
under
that
definition,
I
I
know
the
big
one
you
might
might
be
difficult
for
some
of
you
all
would
say
well,
wait.
Are
you
saying
if
you
repaint,
then
you
don't
need
to
come
historic.
I
would
say
yes,
because
paint
is
something
two
reasons
paint
can
change.
B
You
can
change,
you
can
change
it
back.
You
can
change
it
to
another
color.
The
other
thing
as
well
is:
there
is
no
predominant
architectural
style
or
color.
In
these
historic
districts,
we've
got
yellow,
we
got
green,
we
got
red,
we
got
blue,
we
got
everything.
So
why
are
we
saying
what
that
that
we
should
have
design
control
over
a
certain
color?
So
what
I
would
ask
you
to
do
is
for
an
immediate
change
that
we
could
make
is
send
a
recommendation.
You
know
give
me
your
positive
recommendation
on
this,
that
we
can
ask
council.
B
I
Kirby,
I
agree
that
we
need
a
change
and
we've
been
asking
for
change.
For
many
years,
we've
been
talking
about
revamping
the
ordinance
for
many
years,
the
design
guidelines,
the
color
rules,
but
I'm
glad
that
you're
looking
at
a
progressive
program
to
encourage
people
and
that's
what
we
all
want,
but
I
think
that
we
can't
throw
out
everything
that
we've
done
and
built.
I
So
I
think
we
need
to
take
each
of
your
recommendations,
one
at
a
time
review
them
get
comment,
input
from
the
board
and
move
forward,
one
step
at
a
time
not
all
at
once,
and
if
you
want
to
start
with
that
one
about
permitting.
I
think
we
should
look
into
it
and
figure
out
how
we
can
best
modify
our
rules.
I
But
I
do
believe
that,
right
now,
as
the
ordinance
exists,
we
are
allowing
people
to
do
maintenance
on
their
buildings.
It's
just
that
administratively,
the
city
created
a
process
for
getting
a
pool
to
do
that,
and
I
think
mostly
that's
because
some
of
us
property
owners
were
in
fear
that
if
we
started
to
paint
our
structures,
our
neighbor
would
call
the
city
and
say:
do
they
have
permission.
I
So
we
had
to
formalize
that
so
that
there
was
some
kind
of
record
that
we
had
requested
and
received
approval
to
move
forward
with
our
maintenance
program.
But
if
we
can
find
some
middle
ground
or
some
way
to
document
these
things
submit
a
letter
submit
an
email
whatever
it
is.
I
think
you
know
let's
move
forward,
but
let's
take
it
one
step
at
a
time.
That
is
my
recommendation.
G
I
I
want
to
add
on
that,
because
I
completely
agree
in
my
position
here
at
the
heritage
foundation.
I
probably
get
at
least
five
phone
calls
a
day
about
historic,
landmark
board,
because
the
public
automatically
assumes
that
the
webb
county
heritage
foundation
is
the
historic
landmark
board.
There's
a
lot
of
confusion.
G
I
brought
this
up
a
while
ago
and
I
think
it
was
when
you
first
came
on
board
kirby.
I
think
the
budget
had
just
passed
as
far
as
how
much
money
was
allocated
to
the
historic
landmark
board
and
the
reason
why
I
asked
that,
because
I
had
made
a
presentation
to
the
board
when
I
first
came
on
the
board
about
some
findings
and
some
lessons
that
I
had
learned
at
the
national
trust
for
historic
preservation
conference.
I
attended
every
year
and
they
showed
us
websites.
G
G
So
I
had
made
a
presentation
on
different
websites:
spokane
washington,
savannah
georgia,
sarasota
florida.
They
had
websites
that
basically
expedited
and
streamlined
the
process.
Where
you
would.
You
would
answer
a
couple
of
questions
and
it
would
say
you
do
not
need
approval
or,
yes,
you
do
need
approval
and
you
could
pay
for
everything
online
and
everything
was
on
the
website.
They
didn't
have
to
go
down
to
city
hall,
they
can
upload
things,
they
could
take
pictures
from
their
phone.
G
I
think
that
the
consensus
that
I've
gotten-
and
I
brought
it
up
at
this
last
national
trust
meeting,
because
I
bring
it
up
every
year.
It's
how
do
I
get
certain,
especially
like
the
saint
peter's
district?
G
How
do
I
help
the
residents
there
not
be
so
afraid
to
go
to
the
landmark
board
and
and
and
the
advice
was
all
the
same-
the
process
has
to
become
easier:
the
application
process,
not
necessarily
the
rules,
the
rules
have
to
be
clarified,
but
the
process
to
apply
the
administrative
part
has
to
be
easy
for
the
applicant,
whether
that's
reducing
the
cost
that
necessary.
That
definitely
has
to
be
something.
G
I
don't
think
that
they
should
have
to
pay,
and
I
understand
that
you
have
administrative
costs,
but
that
is
something
I
think
that
needs
to
be
reviewed
and
also.
I
do
strongly
feel
that
a
community
will
not
take
historic
preservation
as
a
priority
if
the
city
is
not
setting
it
as
a
priority
as
well.
The
city
has
to
put
it
in,
I
mean
last
time
we
were
at
zero
zero
funds
for
any
kind
of
educational
campaign.
G
We
need
to
invest
a
little
bit
into
our
historic
preservation
plan
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
lot,
but
it
needs
to
be
something
worth
the
educational
campaign
or
historic.
The
historic
district
landmark
board
will
be,
you
know,
put
out
on
the
in
into
the
public
appropriately.
Yes,.
B
I
agree
and
that's
that's
what
we're
doing
we're
dedicated
staff
to
it
and
we
are
going
to
be
dedicated
going
forward.
The
first
step
would
be
the
plan,
so
I'm
not
bringing
all
this
to
you
at
once.
We're
going
to
do
a
plan
and
a
process
and
public
involvement
we're
going
to
build
those
things.
Good
news
on
the
website.
I'll
show
you
right
now
in
the
process
of
reading
our
website.
B
So
very
soon,
here,
within
the
next
few
weeks,
we're
going
to
have
a
new
website
the
best
part
about
it
is
we're
going
to
have
control
over
it
right
now.
If
we
need
to
make
a
change,
has
to
go
to
I.t
and
it
takes
time,
but
we're
going
to
actually
set
it
up.
So
we
can
make
the
changes
as
staff,
so
those
changes
can
be
made
very
quickly.
B
I
like,
where
you're
going
with
the
online
application,
making
it
easier.
Those
are
things
we're
doing
for
all
of
our
applications.
So
today,
I'm
only
asking
for
a
recommendation
on
two
things:
one
we'll
get
to
in
a
little
bit,
which
is
the
date
time
and
the
other
which
I'll
which
I'll
ask
when
we're
done.
You
know
discussing,
is
so
that
we
can
clarify
the
ordinance
that
only
permitted
activity
is
what
goes
before
the
historic
board.
Then.
B
B
B
B
That's
right,
that's
right
and
miss
villarreal.
We've
got
a
lot
of
different
colors
in
this
district.
I
I
don't
as
a
planning
director
overseeing
this
program.
I
don't
see
how
we
could
say
we
could
pick
a
club
colors
to
say
you
like
this.
So
as
a
board,
you
should
then
mandate
what
the
but
come
on.
Who
do?
Can
you
think
of
a
home
in
this
area?
That's
hot
pink!
You
know,
I
maybe
you
might
see
it
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
but
I
don't.
B
Some
yellows
that
were
recently
done,
we
do
have
some
more
hotter
colors,
so
I
don't
know
how
those
got
approved,
because
those
weren't
part
of
the
you
know
of
the
approved
color
list,
but.
I
Should
be
a
blank
historic
palette,
the
way
we
have
it
now
and
I
think
it's
important
to
maintain
the
the
architectural
integrity
of
these
buildings.
That's
part
of
our
role,
and
so
I
I
don't.
I
don't
agree
that
that
color,
that
paint
should
be
allowed,
but
if
you're-
but
I
do
have
to
reiterate-
we
already
have
in
the
ordinance
what
you're
seeking,
because
we
have
a
program
that
says,
if
you're
going
to
maintain
your
structure,
you're
allowed
to
do
that
without
coming
to
the
board
without
paying
100
without
applying
waiting.
I
B
I
I
I
do
think
we
need
to
clarify
those
points.
I
agree
it's
ridiculous
to
tell
people
they
can't
put
up
a
new
mailbox.
Yes,
but
you
know
I
had
a
conversation
with
a
fellow
property
owner
the
other
day
who
was
talking
about
fencing?
Well,
you
know
there
are
chain-link
fences
in
saint
peter's
district,
but
I
don't
feel
that
that's
something
that
contributes
to
the
architectural
integrity
of
any
of
our
structures
in
that
neighborhood.
So
putting
up
a
link
fence
to
me
is
inappropriate,
but
that
appropriateness
is
what
we
have
to
define.
D
B
B
That
is
a
great
example,
because
what
approach
do
you
take?
Do
we
incentivize
a
better
fence?
In
other
words,
do
we
have
some
if
we
create
a
program
where
there
are
some
funds
or
some
way
to
incentivize
a
better
fence,
or
do
we
just
simply
tell
a
property
owner
nope?
You
can't
do
chain-link
fence
what,
if
that's
all
they
can
afford
and
they
can't
protect
their
property
in
an
area
where
we
have
a
higher
crime
rate
than
the
rest
of
the
city.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
we
got
to
get
away
from
the
stick?
B
E
E
D
I
think
the
city
needs
to
come
up
with
a
plan
city
council
and
allow
funds
for
owners
like
you,
you
know,
so
they
can
provide
those
close
funds
to
to
you
guys
and
that's
something
that
we
have
to
take
to
city
council.
B
We're
going
to
be
working
on
that,
so
that's
the
longer
term
stuff,
that's
going
to
take
time
and
putting
together
a
plan,
finding
resources,
funding
grants
and
you're
going
to
be
very
involved
in
that
as
a
board.
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
you
many
times
in
the
future
over
the
next
year
year
and
a
half,
so
that's
that
is
all
to
come.
B
B
I
I
just
wanted
to
be
able
to
make
that
rule
clear
that
the
things
that
require
historic
board
approval-
these
are
the
changes.
There
are
changes
that
require
building
permit
if
it
doesn't
require
a
building
permit,
it
doesn't
require
historic
board
approval
and
then
someone
doesn't
have
to
come
to
us
for
these
little
things
that
they
want
to
do.
I.
B
B
That
is
to
a
property.
Technically,
yes,
that
would
have
to
go
to
the
historic
war
for
approval,
I'm
the
the
challenge
I'm
getting
into
is,
if
I
interpret
it
my
way
or
a
way
that,
like
you,
said,
oh
that
doesn't
make
sense.
Well
then,
I'm
using
my
judgment
I
don't
want
to.
I
want
it
to
be
clear
so
that
way,
it's
fair
to
the
property
owner,
here's
the
definition.
If
it
requires
a
billing
permit
and
it's
a
change,
it's
not
repair
maintenance.
Then
you
have
to
submit
an
application
to
go
to
the
historic
board.
B
F
F
May
I
make
a
comment:
okay
know
working
with
the
businesses
and
and
other
residents
and
other
historic
areas.
F
I
know
that
it
is
a
big
deter
for
investment,
new
investment
to
come
into
the
downtown
area,
because
some
of
the
smallest
changes
need
to
go
before
the
board
and
if
the
board
isn't
meeting
for
another
month
or
six,
you
know
six
weeks
or
even
longer
a
lot
of
times
is
you
know
these
these
small
businesses
that
open
up
don't
have
the
money
to
be
able
to
wait
that
long
to
open
their
businesses
or
to
to
make
you
know
changes
like
mr
gonzalez
said.
F
F
Exactly
yeah,
so
I
think
you
know,
I
agree
with
you
in
in
this
aspect
and
I
and
I
would
recommend,
on
my
behalf,
to
to
go
before
city
council
and
request
this,
because
it
needs
to
be
specific
for
people
to
know
exactly
what
they
can
and
can't
do
and
make
the
process
clear
for
them,
and
this
is
one
step
closer
to
being
able
to
do
that.
More
often
than
not.
F
You
will
have
people
that,
if
they're
investing
in
a
home
or
in
a
business
in
the
air
in
a
historic
district,
it's
because
they
respect
that
the
architecture
they
respect.
You
know
the
neighborhood
and
more
often
than
not
they'll
be
respecting.
You
know
the
colors
and
and
changes
in
that
area.
So
I
think
it's
a.
We
should
be
leaving
it
up
to
them
to
determine
those
changes
that
happen
on
that.
B
Mr,
can
I
ask:
can
we
have
a
motion
to
that
effect
for
the
ordinance
change
to
allow
the
only
permitted
activity
require
only
permanent
activity?
That's
not
repair
maintenance,
require
oversight
and
then
I'll
craft
that
ordinance
now
bring
it
I'll.
Send
it
back
to
y'all
to
look
at
it.
It's
going
to
just
be
one
line
change,
but
then
that
way,
if
we
do
it
as
a
motion,
I
can
see
how
many
of
the
board
members
support
that
idea
and
then
how
many
don't.
I
Kirby,
I
I
don't
see
that
as
a
specific
item
on
the
agenda
for
us
to
vote
on.
I
do
think
that
needs
to
be
put
on
the
on
the
next
agenda,
but
I
do
feel
I'd
like
to
recommend
to
all
of
the
board
that
we
push
forward
before
we
make
any
significant
changes.
We
have
new
board
members
on
that
have
not
been
members
and
have
not
perhaps
been
oriented
properly
on
the
role
and
mission
of
this
board
that
we
are
long
overdue
for
our
educational
program.
I
For
this
board,
the
texas
historical
commission
has
offered
to
come
and
do
a
training
for
us.
Let's
do
that.
First,
let's
educate
ourselves
about
what
the
mission
and
role
is
of
the
board
and
the
staff
and
know
what
it
is
that
we're
supposed
to
be
doing
before
we
go
and
make
significant
changes,
and
I
would
like
to
request
staff
to
follow
up
on
that
training
that
has
been
offered
to
us
for
the
last
year
and
a
half
or
two.
B
Yes,
with
the
with
the
texas
store
commission-
and
just
so
you
know,
all
the
new
members
have
all
received
an
orientation,
an
hour-long
orientation
where
we
went
over
the
rules,
regulations
code-
and
we
pointed
them
in
the
direction
of
these
documents,
so
they
could
review
our
historic
preservation,
final
guidelines
and
I'm
going
to
be
taking
this
as
an
item
to
council.
So
I
really
would
like
a
recommendation
from
this
this
board.
It
is
part
of
these
proposed
changes.
It's
not
the
sweeping
change!
That's
to
come!
B
That's
the
things
we're
going
to
be
working
on,
it's
just
a
very
simple
change,
so
that
we
know
where
that
line
is
between
what
somebody
has
to
submit
before
the
board
and
what
they
don't.
So,
if
somebody
can
make
a
motion
of
that
effect,
we
could
just
see
how
many
people
support
that
idea
that
it's
not
a
birdhouse.
It's
not
a
new
tree.
It's
if
it's
permanent
activity
that
requires
historic
board
approval.
I
G
G
D
B
B
So
this
is
on
the
agenda.
It's
proposed
future
possible
updates
that
the
ordinance
and
the
preservation
planner
program.
D
I
don't
feel
uncomfortable
voting
for
that.
The
wording
is
just
not
there
on
the
agenda
for
us
to
take
any
action
on
that.
H
Yes,
I
think
we
do
have
to
put
an
action
item
on
the
agenda.
That's
mariela
morales.
B
All
right,
well
I'll
draft
something
up
and
we'll
put
it
on
the
next
we'll
put
on
the
next
agenda
meeting.
G
A
Kirby
I've
got
a
question
yeah,
do
you
have
a
vote
or
something
sort
of
that
would
be
given
to
prospective
applicants
that
maybe
you
know
it
could?
Maybe
you
could
say
very
simple
to
simplify
the
form
step,
one
step
two
step
three
and
then
maybe
they
indicate
that
put
there
say
that
the
board
has
approved
98
of
all
petitions.
I
don't
know
I've.
Never.
I
can't
remember
the
last
time
we
received
somebody
out
outright,
but
something
that
indicate
gives
them
a
positive
sense
of
what
they're
going
to
be
doing.
B
I
Something
kirby:
I
don't
think
that
any
of
us
are
opposed
to
change.
Change
is
needed.
We
all
know
that
and
want
it
and
welcome
it,
and
we
just
want
to
take
it
one
step
at
a
time
and-
and
you
know,
pause
and
reflect.
Why
are
we
here?
Why
are
we
doing
this?
Is
it
doing?
Is
this
the
correct
step?
Let's
move
forward,
so
we,
you
know,
look
forward
to
your
proposals,
one
at
a
time
and
something
written
for
us
to
review
before
the
meeting
we
move
on
now
to
item
eight.
B
Yeah,
so
the
consideration
of
the
future
meeting
schedule
and
time.
What
I'd
like
to
propose
is
a
change
in
the
time
and
a
change
in
in
the
day
now
the
time
would
be
12
noon
like
we
have
our
board
of
adjustment
meeting.
Our
board
of
adjustment
meetings
are
at
noon.
They're
on
wednesdays,
and
it's
a
lunch
break.
We
provide
lunch
for
the
you
know
we
did
before
coverage,
it's
just
been
something
electronically
and
then,
as
far
as
the
day
of
the
meeting,
what
I'd
like
to
propose?
B
If,
if
you,
what
we
can
do
as
well,
is
instead
of
making
it
be
a
set
time
of
the
month,
we
could
make
it
on
demand
and
we
don't
that's
not
in
the
ordinance,
it's
just
in
the
ordinance
that
we
meet
once
a
month.
B
But
what
we
could
do
is
we'd
have
to
change
the
ordinance
if
we're
going
to
meet
more
than
once
a
month.
But
there's.
G
B
B
C
B
The
right
time,
so,
if
they
submit
on
march
18th,
they
actually
missed
the
march
17th
deadline
to
go
to
the
april
8th
meeting.
So
now,
they've
they're
on
the
april
21st
deadline
for
the
may
13th
meeting.
So
that's
almost
two
months
later
to
get
before
the
board
versus.
If
we
have
a
more
flexible
schedule
in
the
future,
if
we
change
the
ordinance,
so
it's
not,
you
know
it
doesn't
require
the
noticing
requirements
like
a
zone
change.
B
It
just
requires
the
72-hour
posting,
like
we
do
with
all
of
a
city
council
meeting
or
a
planning
commission
meeting
for
flats,
so
think
about
that,
mr
nance.
We
can
submit
a
platform
subdivision
with
72-hour
notice,
but
to
change
you
know
to
put
in
a
bird
box
on
a
historic
preservation
property.
You
got
to
leave
10
days
and
mill
neighbors
within
200
feet,
so
we're
putting
at
the
standard
of
something
higher
than
we
are
with
our
new
development.
B
You
know
even
a
whole
subdivision,
so
let's
say
under
the
probe,
somebody
submits
an
application
on
march
18
and,
and
we
would
just
need
one
to
two
weeks
to
process
that
application
depending
on
how
how
complicated
it
is
and
then
72
hours
to
notice
it.
So
we
could
have
a
meeting
date
march
22nd
to
29th
and
how
that
would
work
is
we'd.
Send
the
board
we'd.
B
Send
you
three
meeting
dates
like
monday,
tuesday,
wednesday,
which
ones
can
you
do
at
noon
and
whichever
one
we
can
afford
them
on
that
the
majority
members
could
make,
or
you
know
the
majority
or
whichever
one
was
a
quorum
and
we
could
meet
that
day.
Call
the
meeting
and
and
notice
the
meetings
of
the
date
and
now
an
applicant
could
get
in
within
two
weeks
instead
of
waiting,
potentially
six
weeks
or
more
for
an
application
now
without
changing
the
ordinance.
B
The
only
thing
we
can
do
is
just
change
the
meeting
time
and
the
day
of
the
month.
So
I
would
like
to
at
least
consider
that
that
we
meet
like
the
board
of
adjustment.
Does
we
meet
at
noon?
What
we
found
is
that
the
majority
of
the
applicants
are
professionals
who
can
take
a
break.
You
know
who
want
to
work
during
the
day
and
we
find
it's
convenient
for
people
to
be
on
their
lunch
break
like
we
have
with
the
board
of
adjustment.
It
works
very
well.
We
make
quorum
almost
every
time.
B
Well,
every
time
since
I've
been
here,
we've
always
made
corn,
whereas
the
historic
district
having
these
meetings
in
the
evening
we
haven't
made
corn
we've
misported
multiple
times.
So
I
guess.
Let
me
separate
that
how
many
of
you
all
be
in
favor
of
moving
the
meeting
time
to
12
noon
and
then
the
second
question
would
be
how
many
all
will
be
in
favor
of
leaving
more
on
demand
versus
the
set.
D
B
B
B
Can
we
get
a
motion
to
that
effect?
Mr
well,
can
we
see
on
the
date
on
the
day
of
the
month
as
well,
to
see
if
we
can
make
a
motion
for
both
of
those.
D
If
I
may,
as
some
of
you
know,
I
teach
and
I
will
not
be
able
to
meet
at
noon
so
if
that
would
be
the
case,
I
would
never
make
the
meeting
just
throwing
it
out.
B
B
Okay,
with
that,
one
will
be
a
little
more
complicated,
we'll
try
it
out
and
we'll
see
how
it
works,
we'll
adjust
going
forward,
but
basically
in
concept.
What
we'll
do
is
we
will
wait
till
we
get
an
application
until
we
schedule
a
meeting
and
then
we'll
work
with
the
board
to
get
the
date
that
most
most
board
members
can
meet
and
we'll
be
in
communication
with
you,
mr
polka,
on
that,
ultimately,
the
authority
to
call
the
meeting
will
be
up
to
you
on
the
days.
I
I
know
that
we're
talking
about
making
the
process
accessible
to
applicants,
but
I
don't
believe
that
we
need
to
meet
just
to
review
applications.
I
believe
we
need
to
meet
monthly,
regardless
of
whether
there's
an
application
and
now
that
we
have
all
these
wonderful
proposals
to
look
at
and
to
review,
to
update
our
work
and
our
planning.
I
think
we
need
to
have
meetings
to
discuss
these
issues
and
the
opportunity
to
meet
regardless
of
whether
there's
an
application
for
us
to
review.
B
B
There's
really
just
the
one
to
consider
right
now
and
that's
the
one
about
the
permitted
activity
other
than
that
it
will
take
a
lot
of
development
in
terms
of
planning
and
public
engagement.
You
know
this
is
going
to
take
year
year,
half
before
we
get
things
that
we're
bringing
before
the
board
to
consider,
but
there
will
be
more
than
there
has
been
in
the
past,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
it
would
mean
agenda
items
every
month.
B
B
We're
in
contact
with
them
and
and
and
you
know
it
depends
on
their
schedule,
so
I
think
covet
has
made
things
a
little
more
challenging.
I
mean
yes,
we
can
meet
electronically,
but
not
everybody
has
the
same.
You
know
it.
It's
created
some
complications,
we
were,
we
were.
D
B
Okay,
so
the
next
meeting,
then
we
will
we'll
work
with
miss
sepulveda
on
calling
that
and
then
we'll
work
with
y'all
we'll
be
contacting
everybody
like.
We
normally
do
to
see
if
you
can
make
fun.
B
Just
once
again
welcome
to
the
new
board
members,
we
appreciate
you
being
a
part
of
the
board
and
serving
this
is
something
you'll
hear
me
say
again
and
again,
and
I
want
to
reiterate
it.
So
the
public
knows
that
you
don't
get
paid
for
your
time.
Your
volunteer,
you
do
this
because
you
love
your
community
and
you
want
to
serve,
and
I
always
want
to
recognize
you
every
meeting
for
that.
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
for
your
dedication
to
your
community.
It
makes
a
difference.
I'm
very
much
looking
forward
to
going
to
working
with.