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Historic\District Landmark Board Meeting 051321
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Or
hello
good
afternoon
morning,
whatever
whatever
time
means
anymore,
my
name
is
lorelei
willett,
I'm
the
certified
local
government
coordinator
for
the
texas,
historical
commission.
We
are
very
excited
to
be
here.
This
has
been
a
long
time
in
the
making.
We
were
really
hoping
to
make
a
make
a
journey
down
to
laredo
last
year
before
all
of
this
insanity
happened
so
we're
very
happy
to
meet
with
you
virtually.
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Okay,
so
thank
you
for
having
us
here.
We're
excited
to
do
this,
so
we're
just
gonna
jump
right
in
if
you
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
we're
gonna
start
out
with
an
introduction
to
what
preservation
is
so
for
many
people,
they've,
never
even
heard
of
historic
preservation,
and
so
these
are
kind
of
some
of
the
questions
they
ask.
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So
what
are
different
responsibilities
involved,
so
we're
gonna
address
some
of
the
next
slide,
so
for
us,
historic
preservation
involves
the
act
of
recognizing
places
that
are
important
to
us,
caring
for
those
places
by
utilizing
the
most
appropriate
treatment
and
then
continuing
to
use
them
in
ways
that
enrich
our
lives,
and
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
historic
preservation
is
much
more
than
just
the
buildings
that
we
work
with.
It's
also
landscapes,
artifacts
cemeteries.
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They
instill
a
sense
of
community
proprietorship,
enhances
local
property
values,
encourages
tourism
and
fosters
economic
growth
and
development.
So
a
lot
of
really
positive
benefits
to
being
involved
in
preservation
in
your
communities
next
slide,
so
we're
going
to
start
out
with
a
little
bit
of
a
timeline
of
preservation,
one
of
the
earliest
historic
preservation
efforts
was
in
1853
when
this
woman
on
the
screen
and
pamela
cunningham
created
the
mount
vernon.
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So
the
antiquities
act
was
one
of
the
very
first
acts
passed
to
address
preservation
and
it
resulted
from
concerns
about
protecting
mostly
prehistoric
native
american
ruins
and
art
sacks
on
federal
lands
in
the
west
of
the
united.
In
west
u.s
there
was
a
lot
of
plundering
of
artifacts
from
these
lands
by
private
collectors,
and
it
had
become
a
really
serious
problem
by
the
end
of
the
19th
century.
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With
with
this
act,
the
us
was
saying
that
historic
preservation
is
a
government
duty
and
the
government
has
a
responsibility
to
help
preserve
these
historic
places.
Next
slide,
please
so.
The
national
trust
for
historic
preservation
act
of
1949
was
signed
into
law
by
president
truman,
and
it's
a
a
really
important.
It's
establish
the
national
trust
for
historic
preservation,
which
objectives
are
to
identify
and
act
on
important
national
preservation
issues,
to
support,
broaden
and
strengthen
organized
preservation,
efforts
and
to
target
communication
to
those
who
affect
the
future
of
historic
resources.
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So,
following
world
war
ii,
the
government
pushed
urban
renewal
programs
that
drastically
changed
the
urban
landscape
in
the
u.s
and
it
primarily
occurred
in
the
50s
and
60s
and
included
the
interstate
highway
system,
as
well
as
the
demolition
of
a
lot
of
historic
structures
for
new
modern
ones,
and
many
people
did
not
see
this
as
a
positive
and
they
began
to
protest
this
one.
Prominent
example
was
the
demolition
of
penn
station
in
1953.
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But
when
the
plans
to
demolish
it
were
released,
a
lot
of
people
came
together
to
fight
for
its
preservation
and
as
a
direct
result
of
it
being
demolished.
In
on
april
15
1965
mayor
robert
wagner
signed
the
landmark
law
which
created
the
landmarks
preservation
commission
and
for
the
first
time
there
was
an
agency
with
government
power
to
designate
and
even
save
historical
buildings
and
neighborhoods.
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Texas,
the
chipotle,
the
texas
historical
commission,
was
created
in
1953
for
actually
a
little
bit
before
that
try
out
you're
fine.
There
you
go
in
1980.
There
was
an
amendment
to
the
national
historic
preservation
act
and
that
established
the
clg
program,
and
the
first
clg
in
texas
was
el
paso
in
1986.
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At
the
state
level,
you
have
the
shippa
so
thc,
and
then
you
have
non-profit
organizations
like
preservation,
texas,
tda,
different
ones
like
that,
and
then
for
y'all
at
the
local
level.
You
have
your
seal,
you
have
your
commissions,
your
preservation
commissions,
and
then
you
have
any
kind
of
local
advisory
groups
or
historical
associations.
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You
also
have
to
maintain
a
historic
preservation
officer
that
helps
facilitate
all
of
this,
which
I'll
also
have,
and
you
have
to
have
a
review
commission
board
committee,
which
is
what
y'all
are
so
you
all
are
meeting
the
first
three
requirements
right
off
the
bat
next
slide.
Yes,
so
then
you
have
to
also
enforce
your
local
historic
preservation,
ordinance,
which
you'll
do
through
your
cla
reviews.
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Number
six.
You
have
to
ensure
public
participation.
Public
participation
is
so
so
important
because
everything
you're
doing
is
for
your
community
and
if
they
are
not
aware
of
what
you're
doing
for
them,
they
won't
be
as
passionate
to
support
you.
So
it's
really
important
that
you
let
them
know
what
you're
doing
and
you
involve
them
as
much
as
you
can
next
slide.
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Number
seven
is
to
maintain
a
survey
and
inventory
for
the
community.
It's
a
really
great
way.
We
like
to
see
the
surveys
done
about
once
every
10
years.
It
helps
identifying
any
new
properties
that
have
become
eligible
for
designation,
and
then
your
inventory
is
just
your
running.
List
of
the
properties
that
are
designated
number
eight
is
to
review
and
comment
on
any
national
register
nominations.
We
want
to
know
what
we
all
recommend
and
what
you
all
think.
So
it's
important
that
you
are
involved
in
the
process.
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Number
nine
is
to
monitor
and
report
to
us
anything.
That's
happening
to
your
county
courthouse
any
rth
else
within
your
community,
any
sals
and
any
locally
designated
landmark,
because
a
lot
of
times
we
need
to
know
what's
going
on
with
those
properties
and
y'all
are
our
eyes
and
ears
on
the
ground.
So
it's
really
helpful
when
y'all
are
able
to.
Let
us
know,
what's
going
on
next
slide,.
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Number
10
is
to
provide
appropriate
training,
which
is
exactly
what
y'all
are
doing
right
now
and
it's
what
we
love
to
see,
because
things
are
constantly
changing
and
we're
always
learning
new
things.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
y'all
are
learning
and
staying
up
to
date
on
everything
going
on
in
the
field.
So
training
is
super
helpful
with
that
and
then
the
last
thing
is
to
submit
an
annual
report.
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It's
just
a
really
great
way
to
let
us
know,
what's
going
on
in
your
community
things
that
you
might
have
concerns
with
or
issues
with
or
want
any
assistance
with.
The
annual
reports
really
help
with
that,
and
it
also
helps
us
know
where
we
need
to
focus
our
training
efforts
on.
So
it's
really
helpful
when
the
annual
reports
get
turned
in
on
time,
and
they
always
are
so.
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So
I
am
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
commission
roles
and
responsibilities
and
first
I'm
going
to
introduce
this.
This
kind
of
outline
of
what
a
commission
and
the
historic
preservation
ordinance
purposes
just
kind
of
overall
something
like
this
is
usually
or
like
these
six
points
are
usually
in
the
ordinance
just
to
kind
of
give
commissions
and
the
program
kind
of
this
guiding
this
guiding
light.
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Two
also
foster
civic
pride
and
the
accomplishments
of
your
city,
protect
and
enhance
the
city's
attractiveness
to
visitors
and
support
stimulus
to
the
economy,
because
there's
there's
a
really
deliberate
tie.
I
feel
between
history
and
in
a
city's
kind
of
economic
and
tourism
impact,
and
things
like
that.
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representatives
could
be
from
various
fields,
archaeology
architecture,
planning,
law,
real
estate,
history
and
a
smattering
of
others,
and
also
they
they
don't
have
to,
but
they
could
be
living
in
historic
districts
or
local
landmarks.
So
for
laredo
on
the
right,
I
pulled
directly
from
your
ordinance.
D
You
know
real
estate
construction.
I
think,
having
a
construction
expert
is
also
really
important
if
you,
if
you
have
that
kind
of
within
your
ranks,
baking
your
engineering,
those
can
definitely
bring
really
unique
perspectives
to
a
historical
commission
and
then-
and
then
I
like
that
y'all
have
this
also
in
your
ordinance
that
one
member
of
the
board
shall
attend,
and
you
know
a
training
basically
from
the
texas
historical
commission.
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You
can
also
obviously
provide
design,
advice
and
other
reasonable
forms
through
the
cfa
process
and
then
also
prepare
or
promote
design
guidelines
for
specific
districts
and
on
the
right.
Laredo
can
also
kind
of
make
these
recommendations
to
you
know
your
planning
and
zoning
commission,
your
city
council
or
your
manager
concerning
the
adoption
of
policies
and
the
sources
of
funds,
which
I
think
is,
is
something
interesting
to
look
at,
because
I
think
you
know
incentives,
incentivizing,
monetarily,
kind
of
historic
preservation
is
also
really
important.
D
Next
slide.
Please-
and
these
are
just
some
other
suggestions-
you
know-
seek
training
which
y'all
are
what
y'all
are
doing
right
now,
which
is
great
either:
preservation
related
or
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
sorts
of
training,
maria
and
myself
have
just
kind
of
soft
launched.
Something
called
preservation.
Bootcamp,
which
is,
is
all
of
this
stuff,
but
really
expanded.
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It's
a
it's
an
online
training
on
our
website
and,
if
anyone's
interested,
then
please
reach
out
to
us.
We
can
definitely
send
you
the
link.
You
know.
I
also
really
encourage
developing
relationships
with
preservation
groups.
You
know
if
floredo
has
a
non-profit,
you
know
the
the
the
kind
of
responsibilities
of
a
commission
is
to
is
to
not
is
to
really
educate,
but
not
necessarily
advocate.
Since
you
all
are
this
public
entity.
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But
if
you
have
this
kind
of
non-profit
arm,
then
they
can
be
your
advocacy
group,
which
is
really
really
powerful
within
your
preservation
community
and
then
also
for
some
of
our
other
commissions,
who
don't
get
a
lot
of
design
review.
We
encourage
them
to
look
continually
at
ordinances,
look
at
design
guidelines.
D
Next
slide,
please
thank
you.
I'm
not
gonna
go
over
all
of
these,
but
these
are
just
some
ideas
about
education
and
outreach.
We
updated
them
a
little
bit
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
for
virtual
or
with
proper
social
distancing.
You
know
the
use
of
like
social
media
has
really
skyrocketed.
Creating
you
know.
Things
like
an
educational
layer
over
a
map
has
really
has
been
really
interesting.
Creating
a
coloring
book
that
you
can.
D
You
know
either
mail
out
or
have
places
to
to
kind
of
set
up
or
pick
up.
So
those
are
just
a
few
kind
of
ideas.
Next
slide,
please,
okay,
so
we
are
gonna,
go
over
the
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
for
rehabilitation
and
then
I'm
also
going
to
discuss
a
couple
of
case
studies
with
you
go
ahead.
D
Thank
you.
So
the
standards-
what
you
may
or
may
not
know,
is
that
there's
actually
four
different
types
of
standards:
there's
preservation,
rehabilitation,
restoration
and
reconstruction.
So
preservation
focuses
on
the
maintenance
and
repair
of
a
kind
of
existing
historic
material
and
just
retaining
it
as
it
is
right
now.
So
think
of
you
know.
Think
of
the
colosseum!
That's
kind
of
you
know
it's
a
ruin,
they're
not
trying
to
build
it
back
or
anything
like
that.
They're,
just
keeping
it
kind
of,
as
is
as
much
as
they
can.
D
Rehabilitation
is
going
to
be
the
one
that
our
commissions
work
with
the
most,
because
it
acknowledges
the
need
to
alter
or
add
to
a
historic
property
to
meet,
continuing
or
changing
uses
while
retaining
the
property's
historic
character.
And
so
that's
so
that's
that
offers
probably
the
most
kind
of
flexibility
for
things
like
local
historic
districts
and
local
landmarks
that
are
being
kind
of
updated
restoration,
depicts
a
property
at
a
very
particular
period
of
time
in
its
history,
while
removing
evidence
of
other
time
periods.
D
So
for
for
me,
that
is
something
like
something
like
a
house
museum
they're
they're
very
focused
on
one
particular
type
in
very
short
kind
of
time
period
of
that
house
in
reconstruction.
We
don't
see
a
lot
of
reconstruction,
but
it's
definitely
something
that
exists.
It
recreates
vanished
or
non-surviving
portions
of
our
property
for
interpretive
interpretive
purposes.
D
D
So
so
you
just
kind
of
get
like
a
quick,
a
quick
understanding
of
what
it
is
so
standard,
one
it's
choosing
appropriate
use,
and
by
use
I
mean
residential
industrial
commercial.
You
know
if,
if
it's
changing
from
like
a
restaurant
to
a
coffee
shop,
then
that's
still
commercial,
that's
not
really
changing
its
use.
D
Standard
two
is
preserve
character,
defining
features,
and
we
always
get
a
lot
of
questions
about
what
really
a
character,
defining
feature
means
and
that,
and
that
can
be
a
hard
that
can
be
a
hard
question
and
a
fair
question.
You
know
I
encourage
you
to
to
continue
kind
of
like
asking
questions
and
talking
to
your
staff,
and
we
also
have
several
resources
that
I
think
are
good
to
have
just
kind
of
in
your
back
pocket.
One
of
them
is
virginia
mcallister's
field
guide
to
the
american
house.
D
I
think
and
again
we
can.
We
can
send
you
any
sort
of
resources
that
you
like
number
three
is
maintain
true
historic
development,
so
each
property
will
be
recognized
kind
of
as
a
physical
record
of
its
time.
Changes
that
create
a
false
sense
of
history
or
historical
development
are
not
recommended,
so
in
a
kind
of
example
of
that
is
putting
maybe
victorian.
D
Details
like
you
know
that
gingerbread
that
goes
around
the
porches
on
a
1960s
ranch
style
home.
That's
really
messing
up
the
the
historic
development
of
it
in
standard
four
considered
some
significance
of
later
changes
and
again
that's
kind
of
a
tricky
one.
Changes
to
a
property
that
required
historic
significance
in
their
own
right
will
be
retained
and
preserved.
But
you
know,
there's
always
a
question
of
you
know
what
what
is
historic.
D
If
there's
an
addition
that
was
put
on
on
a
1920s
house
in
the
1940s,
that's
kind
of
falling
apart.
Does
that?
Does
that
kind
of
create
this?
This
sense
of
history?
Is
it
historic?
So
that's
you
know
definitely
a
discussion
that
a
commission
can
have
next
slide.
Please
standard
five,
protect
construction
and
craftsmanship.
So
to
me,
I
think,
of
craftsmanship
as
a
good
example
of
that
is
historic
wooden
windows.
D
They
are
made
of
really
dense
old
growth
woods,
so
they
are
less
resistant
to
rot
and
to
bugs
termites
and
they
are
made
to
come
apart.
So
you
can
repair
them
over
and
over
again,
rather
than
you
know
these
kind
of
these,
these
newer
windows
that
are
made
once
and
then,
if
they
break,
then
you
have
to
replace
the
whole
window
and
that
kind
of
leads
into
standard
number
six,
which
is
repair
rather
than
replace
again.
D
You
know
something
like
wood
windows
or
wood,
siding
wood,
siding.
You
can
normally
just
kind
of
take
out
one
slot
one
board
and
then
replace
it
with
a
with
a
new
one
or
if
it
just
needs
a
dutchman
or
something
like
that.
So
those
are
that's
kind
of
what
they're
talking
about
there
for
standard
seven
adult
avoid.
Excuse
me
destructive
treatments.
An
example
of
this
is,
I
always
think,
of
masonry,
sandblasting
paint
or
really
harsh
chemical
treatments
that
it's
going
to
kind
of
take
off
that
that
surface.
D
That
is
really
protective
of
brick
and
of
masonry
and
then
standard
a.
We
don't
see
that
a
lot,
obviously
in
historic
districts
or
landmarks
and
things
like
that
protecting
archaeological
resources,
but
it's
definitely
something
to
to
think
about,
especially
if
you're
looking
at
more
kind
of
rural
locations
whenever
you're
looking
at
design
review
next
slide.
D
There
we
go.
Thank
you
and
standard
nine
make
alterations
and
editions.
Compatible
compatible
is
sometimes
difficult
to
to
understand
what
that
means
and
there's
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
you
can,
that
you
can
do
that,
and
that's
a
really
good
conversation
to
have
kind
of
as
a
commission
and
then
standard
10
is
I'm
really
geared
towards
additions,
making
additions
reversible.
D
So
that
could
mean
a
lot
of
different
things.
That
could
mean
maybe
putting
a
a
shorter
kind
of
connector
piece
where
you
can
visibly
see
the
back
of
your
historic
house,
then
there's
kind
of
like
this
little
hallway
and
then
there's
the
addition.
So
all
that's
kind
of
being
destroyed
of
the
historic
house
is
kind
of
just
a
you
know:
a
really
small
portion
of
the
back
wall,
but
if
you
eventually
want
to
take
off
that
addition,
the
house
itself
will
basically
be
intact,
so
so
something
to
think
about
next
slide.
D
Thank
you.
So
again,
this
is
kind
of
just
a
list
of
a
good,
a
good
kind
of
beginning
set
of
resources.
The
national
park
service
has
made
something
a
series
of
what
they
call
preservation
briefs
and
you
can
see
all
the
different
topics
here:
repointing
mortar
joints,
roofing
they
have
one
on
wood
windows
and
just
you
know,
wood
and
clay,
tile,
roofs
and
things
like
that.
So,
if
you
in
store
friends,
I
think
storefronts
are
probably
a
really
good
one
too.
D
D
Next
slide,
please,
okay,
so
we
are
going
to
get
just
into
a
couple
of
examples,
and
what
I
want
to
what
I
want
to
point
out
on
this
slide
is
what
you
need
as
a
commission
before
you
start
reviewing
an
application.
So
first
is
a
complete
application.
You
cannot
believe
how
difficult
it
is
to
get
a
complete
application.
Sometimes
I'm
sure
you
might
know
this
is
like
knocking
ahead
yep
totally
totally
get
it
complete,
so
a
complete
application.
D
B
B
D
No!
I
yeah!
I
absolutely!
I
absolutely
understand
so
you
know.
Hopefully
you
know
your
your
city
staff
is
really
the
the
muscle
kind
of
behind
getting
that
for
you.
But
you
know
if
you,
if
you
notice
something
as
you're
reviewing,
you
know,
don't
don't
hesitate
to
to
say
hey.
We
need
this
to
really
make
a
good
decision
so
yeah,
so
application
make
sure
you
have
your
ordinance
criteria
and
maybe
the
standards
for
rehabilitation
just
on
hand.
D
So
you
have
them
in
front
of
you
and
you
can
review
them
design
guidelines
if
applicable,
not
every
not
every
community
has
design
guidelines,
but
that's
that's
something
else
to
to
think
about,
and
then
your
your
staff
report,
because
I
think
because
staff
is
really
able
to
process
and
digest
this
information
before
it
comes
to
you.
But
it's
something
something
to
think
about
next
slide,
please.
D
All
that
and
you've
had
your
discussion
and
you've
made
your
decision
approve
or
deny
your
proposed
changes
based
on
based
on
the
standards
and
explain
your
decision
by
citing
the
applicable
standards
or
guidelines,
and
this
is
especially
important
if
you
are
denying
an
application,
and
it
goes
to
the
goes
to
an
appeal.
You
need
to
make
sure
that
you
have
all
your
ducks
in
a
row
and
it
says:
well,
the
project
didn't
meet
standard.
D
You
know
two
three
and
four,
so
that
is
really
what
your
appeals
board
or
your
city
council
is
going
to
look
at
and
then,
like,
I
said
earlier,
if
you
want,
if
you
want
to
ask
for
more
info
or
revise
drawings,
if
the
application
packet
is
incomplete
or
you
just
need
more
information
and
you
can
reschedule
another
hearing,
you
know
I
know
it's
it's
difficult.
Whenever
you
have
somebody
standing
in
front
of
you
being
like,
I
need
a
decision,
but
you
are
you
know.
D
D
So
here
is
the
first
example
of
windows.
Windows
are
always
a
question,
at
least
at
least
from
from
the
applications
and
the
emails
that
we
get
at
clg.
So
there
is
a
1920s
bungalow.
They
have
a
series
of
aluminum
windows
that
are
not
original
to
that
bungalow
and
they
are
trying
to
figure
out
well
what
should?
What
should
I
put
in?
Instead
of
the
aluminum
windows,
so
they
they
come
to
you
and
they
say.
D
Please
so
next
thing
to
think
about
is
what
what
kind
of
standards
do
you
think
that
we
need
to
look
at
which
which
of
the
rehabilitation
standards?
Do
we
need
to
look
at
and
for
for
myself?
And
you
know
you
definitely
you
definitely
do
not
have
to
have
to
agree
with
me.
This
is
just
kind
of
my
own
thought
process.
I
would
think
number
one
number
two
number
three,
four
five
and
nine
so
next
slide
please
and
then
what
you
do.
D
Is
you
kind
you
take
your
your
application
and
you
start
putting
those
pieces
towards
the
criteria
so
number
one.
Does
the
alteration
maintain
its
use
as
a
residential
structure
and
changing
out
the
windows?
Yes,
it
does
is
the
character
retained
and
for
me
you
know,
for
the
most
part,
the
the
overall
form
of
this
one-story
house,
the
porch
is
staying
like
you
can
look
at
it
even
with
aluminum
windows
and
say
you
know
it's
it's
still.
Basically
remaining
the
same.
D
So
so
I
say
yes,
the
alteration
of
replacing
the
windows
retains
that
character.
Now
number
three
gets
a
little
sticky.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
that
false
sense
of
history.
You
know
sticking
on
victorian
details
onto
like
a
ranch
house.
Do
so
do
any
of
those
three
window.
Options
create
a
false
sense
of
history
and
the
answer
is
maybe
the
a
and
b
that
one
over
one
and
three
over
one.
Those
are
definitely.
D
D
So
four
did
the
aluminum
windows
acquire
historic
significance,
and
for
for
myself
I
would
say
no,
but
that's
definitely
a
conversation
that
you
might
have
within
your
commission,
because
you
know
they
could
have
been
put
in
in
the
50s
they
could
have
been
in
the
60s.
It
could
have
been
in
the
70s
and
there's
kind
of
this
idea
that
a
50
year
mark
is
is
considered
historic,
but
that's
not
that's,
not
always
necessarily
the
case.
So
that's
something
you
know
so
for
me.
D
I
don't.
I
don't
think
that
the
aluminum
windows
have
acquired
their
kind
of
historic
significance
on
their
own.
Five.
Are
the
aluminum
windows
a
mark
of
craftsmanship?
And
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
ever
tried
to
try
to
like
mess
with
an
aluminum
window
or
anything
like
that,
they
I
I
would
just.
I
would
say
that
they
are
not
unless
they're,
unless
they're
very
fancy.
D
D
For
the
most
part,
the
enti,
the
entire
project
of
taking
out
the
windows
and
putting
in
something
else
meets
the
criteria,
but
where
we
get
stuck
is
what
kind
of
window
and
so
again
I'm
looking
at
number
three.
I
took
out
a
criteria
number
three:
I
took
out
option
c,
which
is
kind
of
the
more
queen
anne
window
and
for
me,
especially
if
it's,
if
I
don't
have
any
sort
of
documentation,
there's
no
historic
photo
or
anything
of
that
house
from
when
it
was
built.
D
I
go
with
a
more
simplistic
option,
which
is
that
that
first
option
of
one
over
one
here,
the
next
slide.
Please
thank
you.
So
so
that's
what
we
end
up
with,
and
this
is
what
the
house
looks
like
you
know
it's.
I
think
I
wanna,
I
think
a
one
over
one
window
looks
appropriate
in
there
definitely
more
appropriate
than
the
aluminum
windows,
and
now
the
the
owner
is
happy
that
they
have
new
kind
of
historically
appropriate
windows.
D
So
what
is
happening
is
a
someone
has
bought
this
commercial
property
and
they
are
wanting
to
do
some
updates,
but
this
one
actually
does
have
a
historic
photo.
So
so,
whenever
I'm
so
excited,
when
I
get
historic
photos,
because
then
you
can
kind
of
look
at
it
and
be
like
okay.
Where
are
all
the
differences
you
know?
Has
it
changed
that
much?
And
so
here
I'm
just
gonna.
You
know
I'm
just
kind
of
looking
at
what's
existing
and
what
the
historic
photo
is
and
really
not.
D
D
D
They
are
adding
an
awning
which
looks
like
the
the
it
probably
had
at
some
point,
even
though
it's
not
in
his
in
the
historic
photo
and
they're,
also
adding
ifis,
which
is
kind
of
that
that,
like
fake
stucco,
next
slide,
please
so
what
kind
of
information
may
you
need?
This
is
something
to
to
kind
of
think
about.
You
know
you
might
have
the
application
in
front
of
you.
D
D
So
these
are
just
kind
of
some
examples
of
what
kind
of
information
I
think
I
might
need.
If
I
was
commissioner-
and
I
was
reviewing
this
application,
you
know
what
what
is
happening
to
the
masonry.
Are
they
taking
all
of
the
brick
off?
Are
they
just
you
know,
adding
like
adding
more
brick
like
what
is
happening?
How
and
then
also
how
much
taller
is
that
top
than
the
original
kind
of
one
story
and
then
and
then
which
standards
would
apply?
D
I
me
again,
I
mean
you,
don't
have
to
agree
with
me
again.
This
is
almost
all
of
them,
except
for
that
number,
eight,
which
is
that
archaeological
standard
so
and
then,
and
then,
since
you
kind
of
identified
your
standards
and
then
you
interpret
the
project
against
it
next
slide,
please
so
number
one
does
the
alteration
maintain
its
use,
which
is
it's
a
commercial
property,
it's
maintaining
its
use
as
a
commercial
property.
D
So,
yes,
is
the
character
retained
for
me,
that
kind
of
really
simple,
one-story
commercial
kind
of
unit
that
look
and
feel
of
that
original
property
is
not
being
maintained
by
all
of
the
different
changes
that
are
happening.
Do
any
of
these
create
a
false
sense
of
history.
I
I
personally
absolutely
think
so,
because
the
the
original,
even
even
in
its
kind
of
altered
state,
it
looks
you
know
older,
but
the
it
now.
D
It
now
looks
very
new
and
kind
of
that
that
developer,
that
kind
of
big
box
store
look.
It
now
looks
very
new
in
there
and
the
whole
look
of
it
has
changed
so
four
have
the
other
alterations
acquired
historic
significance?
No,
you
know
the
the
storefront
is
metal.
Like
that's
been
taken
out,
that's
not
doesn't
have
any
historic
significance.
D
Are
there
distinctive
features
of
historic
craftsmanship?
Again,
no
do
the
alterations,
repair,
the
existing
features,
no
they're
you're,
actually
losing
your
transoms
and
your
kind
of
like
overall
form
are
the
treatments
destructive.
You
know,
as
we
talked
about
yes,
they
are,
they
are
taking
out.
It
looks
like
they
are
taking
out
brick
and
they're,
putting
on
this
kind
of
fake
stucco
situation.
D
C
D
D
D
So
again,
and
then
you
know,
if
it's
seconded
and
put
into
minutes,
that's
going
to
be
really
important
in
case
the
applicant
goes
to
to
an
appeal
so
that
you
so
that
the
the
conversation
can
be
focused
on
the
standards.
So
that
was
a
lot
really
really
appreciate.
Y'all,
letting
us
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
and
if
let
us
know
if
you
have
any
questions.
B
A
A
I
know
I
have
many
questions,
but
I
wonder
if
there
would
be
an
opportunity
then
to
have
like
a
a
second
session
with
maybe
specifics
that
relate
to
our
ordinance
and
the
way
that
we
interpret
our
responsibilities,
because
I
think
it
would
take
much
longer
and
members
are
on
their
lunch
hour.
And
so
I
don't
want
to
take
a
lot
of
time,
but
one
that
kind
of
encompasses
some
of
the
questions
could
be.
A
We've
been
told
by
staff
that
the
secretary
of
interior
standards
are
only
guidelines
and
suggestions
and
that
they
are
not
standards
for
us,
and
so
you,
you
know.
You
gave
the
example
about
how
this
one
application
was
denied
because
it
did
not
meet
the
following
standards.
We
are
not
doing
that.
We
are
just
looking
at
the
standards
as
oh.
B
We
can
certainly
consider
working
with
with
lorelei
and
maria
on
on
a
you
know,
a
follow-up
session
at
some
point
whenever
it's
convenient
in
their
schedule
and
and
maybe
if,
if,
if
you
don't
wanna,
have
questions
now,
maybe
we
could
have
them
sent
in
and
we
can
you
know
forward
them
forward
the
questions
to
them
so
that
they
could
start
thinking
about.
You
know
what
they,
what
the
commission
is
interested
in.
A
Well,
I
think
we're
also
ignoring
many
of
our
design
design
guidelines
because
they
are,
they
were
written
so
long
ago
that
over
time
we
have
given
them
less
importance
in
our
decision
making.
So
we
probably
need
to
review
those
as
well,
and
perhaps
you
can
help
us
is
there
any
opportunities
for
consulting
on,
for
example,
design,
guideline
reviews
or
ordinance
reviews.
I
know
our
ordinance
is
under
amendment
right
now
and
I
wonder
if
you
are
involved
with
that,
can
be
involved
with
that,
because
I'd
like
to
pose
a
question
to
vanessa
in
the
next
item.
B
Well
that
that's
correct
when
somebody
we
are
in
the
in
the
process
of
rewriting
all
of
our
land
development
code
and
that
does
include
our
historic
guidelines,
our
historic
rules
and
laws,
so
we're
in
the
midst.
We
just
started
this
morning
with
staff
review
of
the
new
code.
So
I
would
suggest
that
we
look
at
we're
going
to
have
an
extensive
series
of
public
outreach,
we're
going
to
go
to
the
builders
association
to
the
council,
to
the
planning
and
commission,
so
that
there's
going
to
be
a
ton
of
outreach
on
the
on
the
code.
B
D
And
vanessa,
I
know
we
had
talked
a
little
a
little
bit
about.
You
know
some
of
that.
Some
of
that
code
development-
you
know
since
eloredo
is
a
certified
local
government
and
maria
was
talking
about
the
kind
of
requirements
that
need
to
go
into
that
there.
There
are
kind
of
really
specific
things
that
need
to
be
included
in
the
ordinance.
So
you
know
we
we're
very
happy
to
kind
of
review
it
against
those
standards
to
make
sure
any
changes
are
still
going
to.
B
Sure
what
I
would
assume
is
going
to
happen
is
we
probably
at
some
point,
send
you
the
the
link
and
actually
it's
on
our
website
right
now,
the
draft
the
draft
code
is
on
our
website.
I
can
send
you
the
link
to
it,
so
you
can
take
a
look
at
what
they're
proposing
but
just
be
aware
that
it
may
change
because
again
we're
still
under
staff
review.
We're
still
haven't
got
everybody's
comments.
You
know
we
we
imagine
that
the
development
community
is
going
to
have
a
lot
to
say
about
it.
B
You
know
the
public
will
have
a
lot
to
say
our
elected
leaders
will
have
a
lot
of
input
into
it.
So
we're
I
mean
just
today
we're
making.
You
know,
you
know
significant
changes
to
it.
So
if
you
want
to
just
take
a
look
at
it,
I
can
send
you
the
link,
but
it
is
on
our
website
and
but
again
it
it.
It
will
change
from
from
today
to
the
final
version.
B
B
A
B
C
C
Question
kind
of
to
add
to
that
for
maria
I
you
know
as
far
as
clg
goes
we're
supposed
to
have.
You
know
a
review
commission,
the
landmark
board
and
if
we're
meeting
on
a
monthly
basis
and
trying
to
update
our
ordinances
and
our
guidelines-
and
we
vote
on
something
unanimously
and
what
we
voted
on
is
not
what
is
presented
to
planning
and
zoning.
C
Maybe
city
council,
at
the
very
end
you
know,
is
that
falling
in
line
with
clg,
because,
what's
the
point
of
having
us
there,
we're
going
to
vote
on
something
and
a
recommendation
is
being
put
forth.
But
then
the
final,
what
is
being
presented
by
staff?
Just
that
accounts
was
not
in
line.
What
we
voted
on.
B
B
So
we
did
present
that,
similarly
to
when
planning
and
zoning
commission
does
not
recommend
approval
of,
let's
say
a
zone
change,
we
make
sure
that
you
know
we
have
staff's
recommendation
and
we
have
the
planning
and
zoning
commission's
recommendation
many
times
they're,
not
in
concurrence,
but
we
do
make
sure
that
both
of
those
are
are
listed
on
the
staff
report.
With
regard
to
the
ordinance
amendment,
it
did
have
staff's
recommendation,
it
had
the
planning
and
zoning
permissions
recommendation
and
it
also
had
the
historic
commission's
recommendation
on
the
item.
B
So
if
you
look
on
the
staff
on
it,
it
said
planning
and
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
recommended
approval
without
change.
Historic
commission
recommended
approval
with
changes
and
staff.
You
know
recommended
approval
without
changes,
so
there
was
it
was
your
recommendation
was
presented
to
council.
C
D
A
A
I
would
also
like
to
send
out
a
link
to
this
meeting
recording,
if
possible,
to
our
members,
so
that
everyone
who
is
absent
has
an
opportunity
to
review
the
presentation
and
also
those
of
us
that
participated,
get
a
chance
to
go
back
and
review.
What
was
presented
and
offer
the
members
an
opportunity
to
propose
questions
to
thc
staff.
B
So
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
director's
comments.
Kirby
is
again,
I
thought
he
was
going
to
be
able
to
be
with
us,
but
it
looks
like
he
was
detained
a
little
bit
longer.
So
on
behalf
of
him
I
know
I
he
wanted
me
to
extend
his
thangs
and
his
his
gratefulness
for
being
able
to
work
with
you
all
he
enjoyed
it.
He
learned
a
lot.
B
He
it
was
his
his
honor
to
have
served
the
city
of
laredo
and
and
the
planning
of
the
the
historic
commission
and
other
than
that
we
wanted
to.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
Once
again,
you
know
we
always
want
to
thank
our
members.
We
understand
your
time
is
valid
valuable
and
you
know
you
do
this
voluntarily,
and
this
is
you
know
your
disservice
is
invaluable
and
we
want
to
want
to
make
sure
that
you
that
you
know
that
we
appreciate
it.