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From YouTube: Historic District Landmark Board Meeting 070920
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Historic District Landmark Board Meeting 070920
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C
Okay,
so
right
now
it's
being
broadcast
on
back
and
the
next
item
is
this
is
and
comments
we,
we
will
wait
to
see
if
anybody
calls
in
there's
about
a
30.
Second
lack
from
it
is
live,
but
it
takes
about
30
seconds
for
it
to
get
broadcast.
So
we
can
wait
about
a
minute,
then
we'll
see
if
anybody
calls
in
from
the
public
to
speak
during
the
summer.
C
I
just
like
to
say
that
if
you
can
keep
your
audio
muted
unless
you're
ready
to
speak,
that
way,
it
really
keeps
down
on
an
echo
that
you
just
heard,
and
if
you
forget
I
might
mute
you
just
if
it's
getting
really
bad
I
don't
mean
that
in
any
way
to
be
offensive,
just
it
just
really
helps
the
audio.
If
you
meet
yourself
unless
you're
talking
now
miss
Romani
has
the
chair.
A
Mr.
Schneider
Matt
I
just
saw
the
the
chat
pull
up
on
on
my
computer
screen,
so
this
one
sec
review.
If
you
can
hear
us
and
if
you've
got
anything
I,
guess
mr.
Schneider
and
you
can
also
be
the
keeper
of
the
chat
just
that
way.
She
can
at
least
voice
have
a
voice
in
this,
even
if
it
is
by
chat
anybody
hear
me:
yeah,
okay,
I
went
to
backup
device
yeah.
A
C
A
Next
go
ahead
here.
Alright,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
public
hearing
for
the
consideration
of
the
following
letter:
A
of
the
carrying
consideration
of
a
motion
to
approve
the
following
new
improvements
to
an
existing
historic
property
at
Lots,
three
and
four
blocks:
125
Western
Division,
located
at
1510
Houston
Street.
In
order
to
provide
and
install
a
new
wrought
iron
fence
along
the
property
line,
main
South
facade,
the
proposed
fence
will
be
installed
along
with
two
gates
at
the
southern
facade,
as
shown
on
exhibit
a
historic,
I'm.
Sorry,
historic,
district,
st.
A
C
Ok,
I
do
have
a
present.
I
do
have
a
presentation
to
provide
some
context
for
the
board
and
also
the
public
that
are
watching.
Ok,
ok,
as
you
said,
the
the
property
owner
is
the
jev
family
ltd
and
james
bowls.
They
are
the
property
owner
applicant.
This
is
a
residential
structure
located
in
1510
Houston
Street,
it's
in
the
ro
zoning
district,
which
is
our
residential
alphas
own.
In
these
door,
historic
district
we
sent.
C
To
surrounding
neighbors
we've
got
zero
responses
for
or
against.
As
you
can
see
in
this
slide,
it
is
on
the
eastern
boundary
of
the
st.
Peter's.
Historic
district.
Here
is
a
zoom
in
of
the
cross
streets.
You
can
see
Houston
Street
in
yellow
running
east
and
west
and
Santa
Maria
running
north
and
south,
and
the
dotted
line
is
the
boundary
line
for
the
historic
district.
The
st.
Peters,
historic
district
and
the
red
mark
is
the
property
in
question.
C
C
Fence
and
another
look
at
the
fence,
and
we
can
come
back
to
any
of
these
if
you
want
I'll
just
go
through
quickly
and
and
presentation
here
is
a
graphic
showing
the
drawing
of
the
applicant
showing
what
they're
going
to
do
with
their
fence,
with
some
dimensions
there
and
here's
the
recommendation
of
staff.
The
staff
recommends
dismissal
of
this
item
and
the
refund
of
the
cost
of
the
application,
and
the
reason
for
this
is
there's
a
few
points
here.
C
Number
one
is
because
the
land
development
code,
which
is
the
ordinance
that
governs
historic
district,
doesn't
require
oversight
for
the
historic
board
or
only
requires
oversight
of
the
store
board
for
activities
that
require
a
permit
and
here's
the
language
from
our
from
our
ordinance.
No
permit
shall
be
issued
for
the
alteration,
construction
or
demolition
of
any
structure
located
in
a
historic
district
or
for
any
locally
significant
historic
landmark
without
the
approval
of
the
historic
landmark
board,
so
anything
requiring
a
permit
has
to
come
to
the
historic
port.
C
A
C
A
Yes,
okay,
the
way
I
interpret
the
exception
that
have
been
provided.
It
is
only
indicating
that
no
permit
can
be
issued
without
any
element
having
to
do
with
a
historic
district
being
brought
to
the
board.
It
does
not
indicate
that
any
project
does
not
have
a
beautiful
permit
requirement
does
not
come
to
the
board
I
think
it's
been
misinterpreted
by
step.
You
will
begin
legal
to
respond
to
this.
Yes,.
I
A
G
Want
to
make
sure
that
we
protect
the
integrity
of
the
neighborhood,
it's
very
important
that
we
consider
this
as
we
move
forward
and
if
that's
the
way
that
it's
being
interpreted
with
many
years
of
sitting
on
on
the
landmark
board
and
participating
as
a
civilian,
just
as
a
spectator
going
to
meetings
this.
This
has
never
been
the
case,
so
how
Mr
Snyderman?
Would
this
affect
things
like
painting
your
home?
G
A
different
color
that
you
know
usually
would
go
to
landmark
board
is
the
is
their
language
within
the
city's
historic
preservation
plan
that
might
be
contrary
to
this.
I
know
that
there
is
a
lot
of
Misco
wrong
codes
that
we
have
bad
codes.
I
know
that
we
heard
that
a
lot
through
the
city
of
Laredo
is
a
comprehensive
plan,
but
if,
if
we're
working
on
recoding,
Laredo
and
recoating
things
and
rewriting
how
things
are
done,
then
that
needs
to
be
addressed
and
reconsidered
in
the
future.
G
I
just
think
that
changing
something
you
know-
that's
been
a
pro.
That's
been
in
the
history
of
the
board's
action
for
such
a
long
time.
Yes,
we
want
to
streamline
the
process
and
we
don't
want
to.
You
know,
look
most
of
the
stuff
that
we
get
presented
just
get
approved
by.
It
is
a
fence
in
front
of
a
very
significant
beautiful
home
that
is
in
a
beautiful,
neighborhood
and
and
I
understand.
It
doesn't
require
a
permit.
H
A
A
Statement
the
standards
identified,
we
would
look
at
the
item,
material
and
and
I
believe
generally
material
design
in
are
definitely
within
you
know.
The
context
of
the
district
standards
also
indicate
that
the
design
should
not
be
something
that
is
not
supported
by
existing
data
on
either
the
property
or
the
properties
in
the
district.
So
I
think
we
can
act
on
the
item
and
and
then
also
indicate
you
we
look
at
this
interpretation
here.
Can
we
bring
in
mr.
Voltz?
Yes.
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A
F
F
C
It
can't
be
a
more
restrictive
rule.
That's
that
is
a
very
well
founded
land
use
precedent
in
many
land
use
law
cases,
and
so
that's
the
case
here.
There
is
nothing
in
the
code
that
speaks
to
things
that
don't
require
a
permit.
In
other
words,
we
don't
have
a
line
that
says
what
doesn't
doesn't
go
to
this
door
board,
except
here
it
says
not.
No
permit
shall
be
issued,
so
the
converse
is,
if
it
doesn't
require
permit
and
it's
permissible,
it
doesn't
have
to
go
to
the
board.
H
B
B
A
Me
answer
that
comment:
you've
made
the
way
our
lives
in
our
process
has
been
as
far
as
I've
been
on
the
board
administrative
staff
and
approve
all
repairs
as
long
as
they're
consistent
with
the
existing.
So
if
you're
painting
you
don't
have
to
come
to
the
board
as
long
as
you're
with
the
colors
are
the
appropriate
colors
and
if
you're
repairing
a
door
they're
both
or
a
window,
the
both
you
can
do
that
as
long
as
it's
an
idiot,
we
parish
does
not
have
to
come
to
the
board
if
it's
in
keeping.
A
Now,
if
you
want
to
repair
and
at
the
same
time
upgrade
or
change,
then
that's
where
the
comes
with
making
a
change.
In
this
case
fans,
even
existing
fans
was
there
and
you
needed
to
repair
it.
There's
no
issue
there.
If
there
was
no
fans
in
your
writing
and
new
things,
then
that
bolts
in
the
reconstruction
there
are
four
approaches:
historic
properties
in
these
standards,
and
one
of
them
is
reconstruction.
A
B
G
G
If
it's
something
that
that
falls
within
the
guidelines
and
falls
within
the
secretary
standards,
then
I
see
no
no
need
to
overstep
your
recommendation
by
telling
them
what
color
or
how
it
should
look
as
long
as
it
it
it's
okay
for
the
building
and
as
far
as
reviewing
the
item
I,
think
it's
very
important
that
we
remind
ourselves
as
a
board
and
I
know
that
there
are
several
board
members
on
here.
That
haven't
been
to
a
workshop
or
some
sort
of
training,
and
it
is
our
mission.
G
G
H
H
J
G
A
Emotion:
okay,
I
move
to
approve
the
construction
of
the
fence.
Mr.
Valter
wanted
to
apologize
for
the
color
just
for
disclosure
I.
My
dad
spent
most
of
his
his
childhood
in
the
st.
Peters
neighborhood,
and
he
kind
of
raised
me
there
too,
even
though
we
lived
a
few
blocks
away
so
I
very
from
with
that
house,
in
fact,
with
the
two
houses
next
to
each
other,
the
house
owned
by
Arthur
bolts
and
the
home
that
mr.
bolts
now
has
that
was
owned
by
the
late
Jack,
Martin
and
I.
Do
commend
him
for
for
doing
something.
A
J
D
D
C
C
It's
not
that
you
cannot
do
these
things,
that's
not
what
I!
That's
not
what
we're
saying,
but
the
authority
for
historic
district
doesn't
come
from
the
state.
It
comes
from
the
city
and
the
city
code.
So
if
you
want
to
regulate
certain
things,
you
just
have
to
make
it
clear:
that's
it
and
it's
the
council,
not
the
board
that
gets
to
make
those
rules
and
then
the
board
Falls
the
rules.
Mister.
A
C
C
A
D
E
Madame
chair,
yes,
Marie
and
I'm
gonna,
decide
I,
guess
I
just
like
to
make
a
comment:
I
hope
that
we
do
clear
that
up
about
the
fences,
because
I
do
live
in
this
area
and
I,
don't
like
the
chain-link
fences
that
are
around
here.
But
that's
my
know.
My
my
perception
is
that
it
just
does
away
with
a
historical
part.
J
A
G
A
A
C
C
A
C
I
can
speak
with
her
after
about
that
about
this
best
time
to
schedule
that
if
it's
just
gonna
be
a
workshop,
y'all
can
meet,
maybe
at
a
better
time
that
that
doesn't
maybe
maybe
this
is
a
good
time
or
maybe
there's
a
better
time.
So
I
can
I
can
schedule
that
with
them
and
we'll
let
everybody
know
and.
C
A
F
C
And
visual
technical
difficulties-
yes
I,
would
I
would
say
we
should
wait
till
we
can
do
that,
but
the
City
Council
has
advised
us
not
to
meet
in
person
until
they
tell
us
otherwise
and
so
for
all
our
boards
and
commissions.
This
is
the
only
way,
so
it
probably
would
be
better
to
wait
to
a
time
when
we
could
do
that.
It's
probably
work
easier
with
all
the
number
of
questions
and
discussion,
but
that's
just
my
suggestion
all
once
a
con
on
what
she
wants.
A
A
I
I
If
I
may,
this
is
Ricardo,
but
I
mean
this.
I
would
just
like
to
advise
that
I,
that
this
commission
reviews
the
ordinances
and
gets
together
with
mr.
Sneiderman
to
determine
where
there
are
conflicts
with
the
intent
of
this
of
this
commission
and
the
actual
language.
That's
in
the
in
the
codes
I
understand
that
this
commission
does
have
a
duty
and
has
a
has
a
goal
that
they
want
to
accomplish,
but
obviously
that
that
mission
can
be
tripped
up
based
on
language
in
the
code
and
let
mr.
I
A
J
A
We
had
the
luxury
of
having
an
attorney,
and
the
other
is
that
we
have
an
excellent
Historic,
Preservation
officer
and
we've
never
had
any
serious
issues
until
now,
and
my
concern
is
that
you
know
how
some
people
will
say
that
the
courts
legislate
from
the
bench.
It's
almost
like.
There
is
an
administrative
attempt
at
legislating
and
that's
walking
a
very
dangerous
line
because
we're
supposed
to
be
our
council
members
appointed
us
have
these
harming
in
a
water
cup.