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Laredo Metropolitan Planning Organization Policy Committee Meeting 12/16/19
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A
The
screening
to
order
this
is
the
herb
and
the
rate
of
Urban
Transportation,
Study
Committee
or
the
other
ways
on
this.
The
Metropolitan
Planning
Organization
policy
committee
today
is
the
16th
December,
the
16th
2019
we're
meeting
here
at
City,
Council
Chambers
in
Laredo
Texas
and
it's
a
1-1
forties
went
at
the
4:00
p.m.
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F
A
No
none
heard
motion
carries
unanimously
and
thank
you
as
citizens
comments
anyone
wishing
to
speak
and
you
have
three
minutes
at
Lisa
tortilla
of
electrum,
as
he
know,
when
approaching
I
assume.
No
one
wants
to
speak
so
moving
on
items
require
impose
the
committee
action,
that's
I,
don't
know,
know.
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November
the
18
20
19.
Is
there
a
second
second
a
second?
If
Commissioner
gala
discussion,
none
her
goal
is
a
favor
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed.
None
heard
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you.
The
discussion
and
recommendation
on
the
on
the
initiate
to
initiate
a
you,
attend
a
public
review
and
comment
period
after
following
proposed
amendments
of
the
MPO
bylaws
and
there's
various
amendments
there
and
I
make
reference
to
to
those
listed
there
in
the
agenda.
Mister
be.
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Yes,
and
on
the
article
second
on
the
alpha,
which
was
our
our
motion
or
or
consensus
last
time,
because
we
want
representation
from
the
transportation
district
I
want
to
see
if
we
could
change
it
to
the
USS
custom.
U.S.
custom
brokers,
because
I
understand
that
alpha
is
Mexican
personal
broker,
so
they
wouldn't
have
a
voting
right.
You
know
we
decided
on
us.
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F
I
My
understanding
was
that
that
that
there
is
that
alpha
is
I
mean
it
means
include
some
members
that
are
on
the
other
side,
but
my
understand
is
alpha
is,
and
we
sat
down
with
the
President
and
and
discussed
that
there
is
a
another
affording
Association.
That's
on
the
Nuevo
Laredo
side.
This
one
is
located
here.
It's
in
our
downtown
I
can't
speak
to
all
the
members,
but
my
understanding
is
that
that
most
of
the
members-
or
maybe-
oh-
maybe
all
the
members,
but
that
this
is
an
American
organization,
a
Silverado
organization,
but.
J
My
understanding
is
that
the
organization,
its
its
charter,
if
you
will
or
its
roots,
are
on
the
Mexican
side.
It
has
a
US
counterpart
which
is
Association
of
Laredo
flooring.
Agents.
I
find
that
there
are
many
members
on
in
that
organization
who
are
US
citizens
or
and/or,
dual
citizens,
or
at
least
have
residency
status,
but
that
I
think,
at
least
in
my
conversation
with
you,
is
that
the
clearer
choice,
because
it
is
rooted
and
started
and
is
comprised
of
solely
and
wholly
US
citizens
who
are
Lorado
licensed
u.s.
customs
brokers.
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I
B
But
if
we're
going
to
add
a
representative,
another
representative
I
think
that
it's
gonna
take
a
lot
more
than
just
us
discussing
it,
because
we
have
logistics,
we
have
transportation.
We
have
a
lot
of
other
sectors
that
may
want
to
be.
We
should
probably
consider
that
a
little
bit
more
at
length,
I
think
just
shrinking
it
by
one
is
probably
the
best
thing
to
do
just
to
make
it
fair
across
the
board,
but
it's
my
two
cents
on
it.
Do.
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E
Puri,
well,
we
had
that
discussion.
That
was
that's
we
thought
is
coming.
It
was
projected
that
we
stay
with
nine.
Then
we
asked
to
bring
somebody
from
the
transportation
industry,
and
the
discussion
was
rather
quick
and
the
main
aim
of
Oakland,
and
we
all
kind
of
disagreed
now
that
we,
you
know
sitting
slowing
down
thinking
about
it.
Yeah
alpha
normally
is
a
Mexican
is
a
Mexican
custom
brokers,
but
we
really
need
to
think
more
about
the
actual
transportation
industry
and
I.
Don't
know
who
that
you
know
who's
comprised
of
the
big
trucking
firms.
E
You
know
hold
dominion,
I,
guess
it
used
to
be
celadon
English,
whoever
hunt
you
know
who
were
the
ones
that
are
actually
on
the
highways
on
the
roads
that
need
to
use
this
infrastructure
every
single
day.
You
know
thousands
of
times
a
day
and
we
want
to
get
their
input.
So
maybe
we
need
to
dig
a
little
deeper
and
find
out
carrier.
J
Yeah
and
I
guess
to
add
to
that
the
the
consensus
was
that
to
keep
the
the
number
of
Commissioners
the
same,
to
reduce
the
amount
needed
for
purposes
of
a
quorum
so
that
we
could.
We
could
have
that
agility
and
still,
but
still
have
a
come
on,
tie
disciplinary
I.
Guess
you
bring
in
this
backgrounds
that
we
all
respectively
have
what
that
was
the
consensus
to
going
back
to,
because
it's
really
it's
really
not
a
versus
anything
type
of
an
issue.
J
It
is
for
us,
as
a
commission,
to
have
a
Additional
Commissioner
that
represents,
or
has
that
you
know
that
that
knowledge
of
you
know
what
are
the
demands
of
the
logistics
and
Motor
Carrier
segments
of
the
economies,
as
so
that
as
we're
contemplating
future
transportation
projects,
that
voice
is
also
being
heard.
So
so
you
know
you
know,
perhaps
it's
a
customs
broker.
J
Perhaps
it's
a
you
know,
someone
from
the
Laredo
motor
carriers,
Association,
whom
recently
have
really
just
gathered
a
lot
of
momentum,
they've,
really
brought
together
a
lot
of
the
they've
brought
together
the
transportation
industry
themselves.
I
mean
they
can
identify
in
excruciating
detail
down
to
the
pothole.
In
many
instances
on
on,
you
know
and
what
they
would
like
to
see.
As
far
as
you
know,
improvements
and
expansion
and
connectivity.
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J
H
I
Suggestion,
but
they
all
do
following
your
train
of
thought,
is
we
can
open
up
the
public
hearing
for
each
one
of
these
items,
but
scratch
that
one
and
just
just
take
off
just
well.
We
can
just
leave
it,
as
is
for
now
the
the
membership
and
with
the
intent
that
we
can
bring
you
some
more
ideas.
Actually,
a
presentation
I
have
later
today
will
give
you
a
list
of
a
survey
of
mpos
of
what
those
boards
look.
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K
Afternoon,
given
we're
out
for
the
record
assisting
whip
county
engineer,
just
has
an
update
of
where
we
are
with
the
acharya
finger
project.
We
are
anticipating
ninety
percent
schematic
by
the
end
of
this
week
on
friday.
They
are
also
working
with
text
on
reviewing
some
of
the
environment
or
documentation
which
is
going
as
planned,
and
we
just
finished
having
a
utility
coordination
meeting,
what
different
utility
companies
regarding
the
project.
So
everything
is
it's
pretty
much
going
in
the
process
that
we'd,
like.
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H
K
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K
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Area
if
I
may,
mr.
chairman,
up
from
my
understanding,
is
some
property
was
sold
with
a
certain
alignment
so
by
whom,
by
the
Attar,
whatever
their
decor
party,
that
is,
their
court
was
sold
to
another
entity
with
a
alignment
designated
the
alignment
moved
now
that
can
affect
this
property
owner
who
purchase
it
from
that
the
court,
the.
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A
H
E
A
L
K
L
My
discussion
with
mr.
van
Steinberg
at
our
utility
coordination
this
morning.
The
alignments
do
not
change
the
property
underneath
the
roadway
has
been
swapped,
they're,
still
discussing
and
negotiating,
but
all
the
property
reverts
back
to
Verde
corporation
and
the
web
commercial
development
organization.
We
be
getting
additional
property
outside
of
the
roadway,
but
so
there's
only
going
to
be
two
landowners
on
the
prop
on
the
entire
Road
section:
everything
your
family
and
the
Verde
Corporation.
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L
L
A
In
mind,
I
think
that
there's
an
MoU
with
a
city
of
Laredo
up,
no
so
there's
you
know,
rights
and
duties
have
been
established
as
far
as
this
alignment
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
and
and
if
that's
going
to
change,
they
need
to
come
to
the
city
of
Laredo.
They
need
to
come
to
the
MPO
to
for
our
consent.
You
know
unless
I'm
mistaken.
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Toward
lineman
has
not
changed
the
roadway,
the
property
underneath
the
roadway
was
sold
to
a
third
party,
the
third
party
balked
at
the
donation
of
the
property
between
Verdi
corporation
who
sold
the
property
and
the
person
that
was
offering
to
buy
it.
They've
created
a
swamp,
so
all
of
the
roadway
on
top
of
is
on
or.
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E
J
Have
I
mean
really
calls
into
question
the
seriousness
of
bed
of
the
corpse
intent
to
have
this
project
completed,
and
this
I
mean
I
would
I
would
imagine
there
would
be
other
complexities
that
we
would
be
discussing,
but
not
ever
this
one
of
them
selling
something?
That's
not.
That's
now
suddenly
having
some
sort
of
friction
with
the
proposed
alignment
that
we've
already
you
know
shot,
you
know
scans
and,
and
it's
been
surveyed
and
it's
been
engineered
in
part.
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E
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M
A
F
C
F
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F
B
N
Afternoon
class
is
a
medium
gentleman.
I
have
full
Metro
I,
have
a
complete
report
on
transit
I'm
going
to
show
you
want
to
go
through
the
entire
package.
This
is
the
same
package
that
masters
and
for
City
Council
receives
every
Friday.
It's
kind
of
a
condensed
version.
I
took
out
some
of
the
more
operational
details
and
left
a
lot
of
statistics
on
it.
So
the
first
page
is
going
to
be
your
ridership
for
the
week,
then
for
the
year
the
midsection
is
budget
and
performance
and
revenue.
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N
So
as
long
as
we
are
under
the
eight
point,
three
we
are
on
mark
percent
because
we'll
spend
you
know
six
point,
two
percent
seven
point
three
four
point
and
five,
so
we're
under
granted
every
month
is
going
to
be
different
so
months
you
have
big
expenses
projects,
things
of
that
nature
so
months
you
don't,
but
in
general
we
are
on
target
or
first
budget
and
revenues.
Is
the
opposite:
if
you're
over
the
number
that
gives
us
some
good
news,
the
only
line
that
is
not
later,
it's
gonna
be
the
transfer
of
sales
tax.
N
We
are
at
the
five
point,
six
word
over
projections
and
everything
else
and
they're
all
over
our
box
collection.
It
it's
over
ticket
sales,
it's
over
advertisement,
Transit
Center
the
park
in
the
leases
and
all
that
we're
over
our
operating
funster
typically
will
receive
those
funds
early
on
2020.
But
that's
typical.
It's
nothing
to
be
alarmed.
So
again,
our
based
on
the
budget
were
target
revenues.
We
are
ridership
as
well.
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F
N
E
Mention
it
before,
but
that's
a
very
valuable
corner,
I
know
and
when
I
was
there
once
when
Metro
bought
it,
but
you
know
you
might
want
to
see
about
maybe
selling
that
and
you
might
have
the
armory
coming
up.
You
might
have
some
other
properties
that
might
lend
themselves
to
being
ready
to
go.
You
know,
cuz.
The
army
can
be
spot
eventually
right
guys.
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G
N
N
Funds
that
we
received,
the
9.8
million
dollars
were
based
on
that
particular
location.
The
land
itself
was
purchased
with
federal
dollars,
I'm
not
saying
it's
impossible,
but
just
the
process
of
going
that
would
have
to
go
through
and
sell
this
property
because
it
was
funded
with
federal
dollars
granted
to
the
silvery
purpose.
N
Have
to
keep
in
mind
that,
although
it
wasn't
one
have
to
come
to
the
downtown
area
out
to
service
every
morning
and
every
afternoon
as
it
is
the
simple
fact
that
we're
moving
this
operational
from
for
one
spot,
a
few
blocks
from
here
all
the
way
out
there
that
has
that
work,
how
to
pay
it's
going
to
be
about
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
just
bring
in
buses
in
it.
It
doesn't
sound
like
a
lot,
but
it
is
that's.
N
J
J
So
then,
okay,
because
it's
a
good
question,
also
just
from
out
from
a
hub
standpoint,
you
know
it
seems
like
the
the
hub
and
the
maintenance
area
should
be
compartmentalized
into
one
space
so
as
to
limit
the
deadhead.
That
will
be,
you
know,
running
undoubtedly,
what's
what's
a
possible
solution
for
that.
E
J
You
could
flip
it.
You
know,
get
a
bunch
of
money,
pork
potentially
and
then
find
another
location
that
would
better
serve
the
dual
purpose
of
the
hub
and
the
maintenance
facility.
But
I
don't
know
I
mean
we
have
to
really
search
the
inventory,
but
I
would
venture
a
guess
that
in
the
middle
of
town,
23
acres
would
be
difficult
to
find
and
you're
saying
no
matter
what
there
would
be
a
Deadhead
between
the
hub
downtown
and
this
new
maintenance
facility
and.
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E
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C
N
Enable
the
second
phase
circulator
program
that
we
have,
which
will
be
on
the
north
part
of
town
and
that
will
open
the
doors,
were
bringing
the
bus
service
closer
to
coming
in
those
areas
and,
speaking
of
that
land
being
very
valuable
for
retail
and
other
commercial
purposes.
That's
the
idea
behind
this
we
decide
we're
gonna
incorporate
retail
space
to
be
rented,
but
the
benefit
of
them
isn't
gonna
come
back
to
Frances
right.
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B
B
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B
B
B
As
a
Springfield
is
being
both,
you
can
put
that
there
on
there
because
there's
20
acres
already
available
I
know,
but
we
have
these
federal
funds
and
all
sorts
of
things
that
are
there.
But
if
you
do
decide
that
that
it's
more
valuable
to
sell
or
to
do
something
else
with
it,
this
other
property
or
not
to
sell
it,
but
just
to
keep
it
and
develop
it
or
whatever
you
want
to
do
it
that's
more
valuable.
There
is
20
acres
available
on
Springfield
just
so
you.
G
N
A
N
Quick,
my
friends
here
we
have
the
committee,
it's
working
members
attending,
and
this
is
more
for
your
information.
Like
I,
said
also
in
the
package
you
receive
it.
We
are
required
to
report
to
you
all
the
state
of
good
repair.
I
can
tell
you
that
the
Flint
the
facility
and
everything
that
we
manage
for
the
Centauri
knows
far
less.
The
transit
system
is
occupied
with
Federal
Transit
Administration
requirements.
You.
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F
N
The
reason
behind
that
is
world
hiring
a
lot
of
people
trying
to
get
to
and
coming
from
during
the
peak
time,
the
early
hours
of
the
morning,
so
we're
trying
to
incentivize
for
some
of
those
riders
to
stay
off
the
peak
hours
you
free
up
those
spaces
for
people
are
going
to
work,
and
things
like
that.
So
this
will
be
the
first
time
that
we're
recommending
a
decrease
on
the
fair
or
group
of
people,
because
we
want
to
save
those
spaces
for
the
general
community.
Oh
god,.
G
N
G
N
Typically,
that
you
can
call
would
suggest
to
call
at
least
a
week
ahead
of
time.
We
suggest
that
and
then
night
we
do
not
offer
same-day
service
but
put
in
24
hours.
If
that
person
tries
to
schedule
a
trip
will
offer
you
something
within
an
hour
before
or
an
hour
after
that,
we
will
require
indirect
Spears.
Let's.
N
N
Yes
and
no
yes,
we
have
six
plans
that
we
still
need
to
replace
right
now,
the
only
source
for
capital
dollars
to
replacement
you
see
their
self
tax
or
Pell
grant
will
be
in
applying
5310.
Those
are
specific
for
elderly
and
disabled
I
will
be
successful
in
applying
for
those
grants,
turn
30
pretty
much
for
you
disabled
so
far,
no
together,
so
we
have,
but
we
still
have
six
pans.
They
need
to
be
repaid
2009.
N
We
do
have
breakdowns
and
issues
with
them,
but
you
know
we're
working
with
that
I,
so
we're
having
this
meeting
on
Friday
to
get
feedback.
Hopefully,
once
this
process,
the
first
meeting
on
January
for
Council
will
bring
the
outcome
of
those
meetings
with
the
recommendation,
so
either
late,
January
or
early
February
wouldn't
start
offering
bus
passes.
Thank.
O
Pa
afternoon
for
the
record
and
Bertram
sadhas,
director
of
Transportation
Planning
and
Development
for
TxDOT
I'm,
not
on
for
the
last
meeting,
there
was
a
question
I
think
Commissioner
gala
about
the
furnish
roads
and
all
we
discussed
that.
But
we
wanted
to
show
you
I
guess
a
visual
just
so
everyone
was
on
the
same
page
up
on
the
screen.
O
You'll
see
the
intersection
here.
If
you
can
refer
to
the
hand
there
of
i69
new
2009
35,
you
will
see
here
you
go
over
to
the
south,
where
the
furnish
road
will
connect
here,
underneath
I
have
east
to
west
connectivity,
underneath
the
new
Shiloh
overpass,
so
I
believe
that
was
the
connectivity
you
had
in
question
kamishiro
that
correct,
so
that
that
is
showing
you
there.
How
that's
going
to
connect
east
to
west
okay.
B
Underneath,
underneath
yes,
and
if
I
may,
the
reason
field
is
so
important,
because
this
continuation
is
that
they
won't
be
able
to
come
back
around.
So
if,
if
people
exit
incorrectly
they're
gonna
have
to
go
all
the
way
to
sprinkle
to
get
to
the
loom
or
come
back
down
Springfield
to
to
come
back
onto
the
highway,
because
there's
no
return.
If
you
will
right
but.
O
O
O
Those
are
not
programmed
at
all.
We
are
proceeding
with
the
schematic
and
we're
going
to
start
developing
the
plans,
but
we
do
not
have
funding
Authority.
We
do
have
environmental
clearance
on
the
entire
project,
which
is
on
the
full
ultimate
schematic.
We
have
received
environmental
clearance,
er,
okay,.
E
O
O
E
O
E
B
B
B
F
F
B
Then
you
have
a
residential
development
that
on
the
north
side
and
then
the
two
corners,
of
course
on
the
top
of
them
to
be
commercial
as
well
yeah.
So
right
now,
the
only
thing
that
we
really
have
is
is
going
towards
the
loop.
Now
that
we're
negotiating
well
we're
descendants,
you
report
all
the
way
to
sample
Norco,
Sammy
Sado
Parkway
onto
Lulu.
That's
going
to
be
the
only
way
that
we
can
get
traffic
out
in
case
they
exit
incorrectly,
that
or
even
if
they
want
to
exit
theirs
they're.
B
O
Thank
you
condition
at
this
time.
I
do
not
know
what
off
the
time
I
have.
We
can
get
back
to
let
you
know
what
the
completion
day
as
far
as
the
construction,
the
schedule
timeline,
we
are
in
the
process,
we're
100%,
complete
plans,
we're
reviewing
the
time
determination
schedules
to
determine
that
I
can
scale
having
time
when
everybody.
A
B
Even
a
just
a
good
question,
we
had
had
some
preliminary
discussions
about
the
connection
of
Springfield,
and
so
just
so
you
know
the
city
is
in
negotiation
with
owner
of
that
area
to
have
that
area
donated
so
that
you
guys
can
actually
connect
and
have
your
acceleration/deceleration
lanes
as
a
widening.
The
road
I
think
that's
something
we
had
discussed.
Okay.
A
O
No
topic
for
us
again
for
the
record
Americans,
honest
director
of
Transportation
Planning
development
for
text
dot.
We
were
approached
with
this
request
and
just
an
update,
a
text
that
we
don't
have
a
presentation
to
give
it
this
time,
but
we
have
reached
out
to
FHWA
and
we
are
getting
a
clarification
on
them
in
regards
to
a
possible
resignation
or
reclassification
of
this
roadway.
They
have
came
back
to
us
with
some
questions
as
far
as
the
intent
of
how
this
road
will
operate
once
and
if
it
is
reclassified,
so
I
believe
mr.
B
B
We
want
to
check
the
whether
it's
possible
or
not
to
do
this
number
one,
because
we
do
want
to
help
the
east-west
connectivity,
and
so
we
wanted
to
see
if
we
change
the
classification
so
that
we
can
do
some
things
in
this
area
that
that
right
now
again
we're
deliberating
whether
we
can
or
we
can
based
on
this
new
development
that
we're
working
on
in
that
four
blocks
area.
I
think
also
councilmember.
O
Yeah
I
think
that's
something
we
can
definitely
look
into.
What
I
would
like
to
request
if
we
can
maybe
have
a
meeting
to
get
just
a
little
bit
more
clarification
as
far
as
with
intent
overall
is,
and
then
we
can
kind
of
give
our
presentation
specifically
each
other
just
because
it
is
a
big
scope
project.
So
we
want
to
try
to
hone
in
on
exactly
what
what
the
specific
intent.
What
were
you
trying
to
tell
us
for
a
meeting.
O
I
guess
either
we're
getting
the
direction
from
from
the
MPO
director
or
we're
just
meeting
to
find
out
just
advising
us
what
the
specific
intent
is
as
far
as
how
we
will
operate
if
and
when
we
would
read
n8
how
that
arrow
operate
only
because
we
still
have
connectivity
with
international
border,
we
need
to
know
how
that
would
operate.
Absolutely
yes,
sir.
B
J
The
the
I
mean
is
kind
of
it
from
it's
interesting
that
you
know,
we've
got
you
know:
highway,
83
s
principal
route.
Is
you
know
straight
through
the
city
when
there's
already
you
know
the
loom
and
there's
cuatro
Vientos
to
connect?
You
know
83
North.
If
you
will
to
83
South,
it
would
just
make
sense
that
as
many
other
cities
have
done,
they
do
that
yeah,
there's
business
83.
If
you
will
but
then
there's
the
bypass,
and
even
you
know,
Crystal
City
has
there
bypass
for
for
there
83
route
right.
J
J
J
They've
got
that
and
we
know,
there's
creative
ways
to
you
know,
get
that
traffic
to
go
in
onto
the
footprint
of
the
building
and
then
circulate,
because
they've
got
three
levels
of
parking
garages
in
their
preliminary
design
plans
to
handle
vehicular
traffic,
but
as
it
relates
to
that
traffic
safely,
accelerating
or
accelerating,
as
the
case
may
be
new
you
all
engineers
and
planners
need
to
have
that
high-level
conversation,
because
that
was
kind
of
where
our
conversation
ended,
which
was
okay.
Well,
you.
J
Txdot
has
said
you
know
even
not
necessarily
no,
but
has
been
very
unconcerned
with
you
know,
building
up
the
crosswalks
or
or
doing
other
things
to
ameliorate,
the
the
doing
other
things
to
not
encourage
connectivity
between
us
deca
in
downtown,
because
you
know
I
mean
when
we
get
it's,
it's
it's
Department
of
Transportation
and
that's
Auto
centric.
But
how
do
we
you
know,
get
you
all
to
give
us
a
hand
in
these?
Were
these
you
know
complex
issues
come
together.
B
Want
the
point
you
know
the
natural
flow
of
traffic
coming
southbound,
as
was
alluded
to,
is
now
most
people
that
want
to
avoid
the
city,
and
we
still
want
to
go
on
eighty
three:
we
were
they
there.
You
naturally
take
Montana
high
road
and
then
take
cuatro,
Vientos,
north
and
then
up
to
the
loop
and
then
pass
the
loop.
B
If
you
will
so
that's
what
the
intent
was
of
this
to
allow
us
to
then
use
that
other
area
to
increase
productivity
to
from
the
aspect
our
neighborhood
over
to
downtown,
but
yet
thoroughfares,
and
obviously
it's
very
to
use
word
on
eccentric.
But
but
we
also
want
to
do
something
within
the
scope
of
look
of
that
area.
Okay,.
J
So
can
we
have
an
agenda
item
on
the
next
for
the
next
NPO
with
regard
to
is
just
an
update
on
yells
conversations
with
you,
your
office
and
the
developer
as
to
how
could
that
work?
If
re-designation
is
actually,
you
know
something
tangible
and
something
that
techstops
willing
to
do
to
assist
with
this?
What
looks
to
be
you
know
a
really
big
project
for
the
region,
not
just
the
city.
Yes,.
I
I
It's
not,
but
it's
not
functionally
a
highway
right.
It's
still
classified
as
one
so
I
would
say
for
them
to
make
a
presentation
say
this
is
how
you
your
designation,
can
change,
but
this
is
why
we
would
prefer
that
this
nature
ran
the
same
and
then
we
can.
Then
you
can
from
their
side
why
they
want
to
keep
that
designation.
E
A
A
I
I
B
B
G
A
I
Commissioner,
you
had
spoken
about
the
management
organization
and
possibly
moving
to
a
more
separate
in
theo
and
having
a
director
separate.
So
those
are
both
things
I'm
going
to
address
in
this
presentation,
so
we'll
talk
about
the
boundaries
and
the
follow
rules
and
that
we're
we
have
to
follow
talk
about
the
organization
of
mpos
and
I
think
that'll
be
interesting
to
see
what
other
appeals
are
doing
from
a
survey
will
briefly
go
over
the
mission
statement,
the
responsibilities
of
this
NPO,
it's
unique
to
Laredo
and
then
we'll
talk
about
the
staffing.
I
I
Us
rules
of
how
we
are
how
easy
ours,
mpos,
are
organized
and
that's
based
on
population,
and
it's
also
based
on
density
and
so
for
anything
to
change
with
the
MPL
boundaries
that
has
to
be
done
by
the
NPO
and
the
governor
in
agreement
at
minimum.
The
boundaries
have
to
encompass
an
area.
That's
urbanized,
now
an
urbanized
that
definition
is
controlled
by
this
census,
so
everyda
sensible
to
dice
any
Ascend
TSA's
last
one
was
2010.
The
next
one
will
be
2020,
that's
when
they
put
on
the
map,
and
they
say
these
areas
are
urbanized
areas.
I
I
They
can't
go
into
areas
that
will
not
be
urbanized
in
you
know
in
the
future,
if
it's
not
going
to
be
urbanized
can't
be
included
and
then
finally,
the
info
to
actually
change
the
boundaries
of
the
process
that
has
to
go
through
the
federal
highway
administration
goes
through
the
census.
It's
a
prescribed
process
that
we
would
have
to
follow
through
wherever
to
do
that,
so
just
to
show
you
the
boundaries
again.
So
these
are
the
boundaries
of
the
MPO
and
you
can
see
that
it
includes
most
the
urbanized
area
and
then
some
additional
area.
I
Here's
here
are
for
reference.
This
is
the
2010
urbanized
area,
that's
done
by
the
census,
and
so
the
urbanized
areas
are
basically
where
you
see
all
the
streets,
the
existing
streets.
But
if
you
look
at
our
boundary,
it
extends
beyond
that
and
the
idea
is
that
within
20
years,
that's
a
possible
area
of
urbanization.
I
Now,
if
you
look
at
the
district,
here's
our
boundary
lines
for
the
for
the
NPO
in
comparison
to
other
other
small
population
clusters,
other
cities
and
other
urbanized
areas.
So
we
are.
Unfortunately,
we
are
nowhere
close
to
any
of
these
other
urbanized
areas,
because
you
have
to
have
a
contiguous
connection
of
urbanized
areas.
So
the
way
the
valley
was
able
to
join
together
is
because
they
used
to
be
smaller
areas
that
all
had
a
separate
NPO,
but
then
they
kind
of
grew
together
and
what
all
or
all
grow
together
in
the
next
20
years.
I
So
they
were
able
to
come
together
through
a
prescribed
process.
Agreement
of
the
governor
get
the
FHWA
to
sign
off
and
they
were
a
converge
is
a
big,
bigger
NPO.
We
cannot
do
that
because
we
are
not
connected
right
now
and
we
will
not
be
connected
in
the
next
20
years
and
probably
not
the
next
hundred
years
or
200
years
to
any
other
urbanized
area.
Oh
you'd,.
I
I
I
So
getting
into
our
mission
statement
to
set
the
transportation-related
policy
identify
existing
and
future
local
transportation
needs
in
cooperation
this
next
time
and
propose
and
recommend
projects
for
all
modes
of
transportation,
all
modes
with
special
attention
to
Freight.
So
this
is
the
mission
statement.
I
brought
this
out
just
to
say
that
videos
are
all
unique
and
the
regular
is
unique
in
any
other
area
and-
and
our
staffing
needs
are
unique
to
us
who
or
on
the
policy
committee,
is
unique
to
us.
The
members,
the
number
of
members
all
unique.
I
That's
why
the
federal
highway
administration
has
given
Appeals
a
lot
of
flexibility
to
do
things
like
you're
proposing
you
do
bring
your
quorum
down
to
four.
Instead
of
the
majority
of
how
many
our
number
of
members
on
board
I
contacted
them
and
they
said
hey,
but
making
those
rules
are
up
to
you.
They
give
a
lot
of
flexibility
in
the
organization
of
the
staff
and
the
policy
committee
and
the
technical
committee
of
how
we
wish
to.
F
J
J
The
comp
plan
citizen-driven
voice-
that
is
now
our
you
know.
Our
Bible
has
told
us
that's
the
route
we
need
to
go
in
and
and
since
by
and
large
we
represent
some
most
of
the
same
people
as
a
city,
an
accounting
it
seems
like
this
might
be
an
option
there.
There's,
it
seems
like
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
add,
add
an
addition
to
Freight.
You
know:
mass
transit
and
active
transit
because
of
well
obviously
the
congestion
we
experience
can
be
a
million
narrated
through
active
transit
and
mass
transit.
F
J
Post
you're
saying
you
need
the
language
from
us
right
language
right
now,
so
that
if
I
existing
people
vote
and
propose
and
recommend
projects
for
all
modes
of
transportation,
including
including
mass
transit,
active
trend,
active
transit
,
with
special
attention
to
frighten
active
transit
is
gonna.
Be
here.
E
J
Even
even
summer,
just
fall
into
that
even
people
on
wheelchairs
fall
into
active
trends
like
active
transit
is
as
broad
of
a
scope
as
you
would
imagine,
but
it
is
an
industry
accepted
term
as
per
the
knack,
toe
and
ash
to
models
and
tech
stocks.
New,
active
transit
I
forget
what
y'all
call
it.
If
I
forget
what
they
forget,
what
text
up
specifically
calls
about
pre
sure
it's
active
transit
if
there's
a
better
word,
let's
go.
I
G
J
I
You,
okay,
so
back
to
the
structure.
Just
some
bigger
picture
stuff
federal
government
gives
about
four
hundred
million
dollars
to
three
hundred
eighty
five
in
peels
across
the
country
and
some
local
and
state
government
to
supplement
that.
So
there's
about
a
hundred
million
dollars
of
extra
going
into
transportation
planning
that
is
very
safe
funds.
I
know:
we've
talked
about
it
before,
because
this
comes
from
the
gas
tax
of
which
this
is
less
than
1%.
I
So
when
things
go
down
up
and
down
with
gasoline
usage,
that's
affecting
highway
funding,
where
a
lot
of
the
gas
that
comes
from
a
road
building,
but
it's
not
affecting
that
small
small
sliver,
which
is
just
the
funds
used
to
staff
the
transportation
planners
all
around
the
country.
So
it's
very
safe
these
funds
that
come
for
our
our
planning
activities,
so
an
MPO
its
when
it's
best
done
it's
a
Regional
Council.
I
The
MPO
requires
a
fiscal
agent,
explain
that
when
the
money,
that's
the
planning
grant
funds,
that's
not
for
building
that's
for
staffing
and
for
doing
projects
for
consultants,
those
funds
that
come
in,
they
don't
give
us
money
to
spend
we
spend
money
and
that
we
get
reimbursed
so
to
spend
money.
We
have
to
have
someone's
money
to
spend
so
the
way
the
MPL
was
originally
set
up.
The
city
is
the
fiscal
agent,
so
the
city
puts
the
building
and
we
reimburse
most
of
the
costs
that
we
incur.
Some
are
difficult
to
measure.
I
One
thing
we've
not
been
doing
is:
charging
the
MPO
leasing
the
space
that
released
there.
Then
that's
inside
the
planning
department.
I
just
wanted
to
make
you
aware
that
now
the
size
of
the
qualification
of
the
staff
vary
by
M
vo
some
are
some
have
a
focus
where
they
do
mostly
consulting
some
have
staff
where
they
do
more
of
the
projects.
That's
something
is
I've,
come
on
board
with
the
expertise.
I
have
all
the
10
years
in
the
private
industry.
Doing
a
range
of
different
projects
for
many
different
cities.
I
Counties
in
the
States
is
that
we
can
do
more
of
that
in-house.
The
advantage
to
that
is
that
we're
much
more
responsive,
we're
quicker
in
the
things
we
do,
because
we
have
staff
here
we're
gonna
have
to
initiate
a
whole
process
to
get
a
consultant
in
six
months
later
you
start
a
project
a
year
later
it's
finished.
We
don't
have
to
do
that.
We
can.
You
can
do
much
more
nimble.
That
was
something
we
talked
about
previously
and
you
all
agree
and
we'll
go
back,
we'll
visit
that
just
a
second.
I
Is
it's
it's
based
on
a
formula
it's
based
on
population,
so
the
size
that
we
are
dictates?
How
much
of
the
planning
the
funds
we
get
for
our
planning
staff
and
for
protecting
the
planning
grant
is
what's
called.
Thank
you
just
a
little
another
little
overview,
so
a
number
of
mpos
by
state
or
second
only
let.
A
A
I
A
I
I
I
So,
if
you
can
see,
the
number
of
MPs
doesn't
always
coincide
with
the
biggest
states.
Florida
that
has
the
most
MPO
stand,
has
a
lot
of
separate
cities
that
aren't
contiguous.
Texas
is
number
two.
Now,
if
you
look
at
the
range
of
Threepio
organizations
by
size,
you
can
see
that
most
of
them
are
most
of
the
mpos
of
the
ones
that
were
sampled.
So
this
comes
from
a
sample.
You
can
look
at
there's
a
range
of
MPs
that
come
from
larger
organization,
larger
cities
and
population
areas
and
those
that
are
smaller.
I
Fifty
thousand
is
the
minimum
for
an
MPO,
and
then
it
goes
up
to
our
largest
areas.
There
was
a
survey
done
looking
at
what
are
the
organization's?
Look
like
where's,
the
policy
committee.
Look
like
I
thought.
I'd
include
this
because
we
were
considering
bringing
alpha
and
somebody
I
heard
the
question
that
wait.
We
should
we
have
somebody
from
the
private
sector
on
the
MPO.
Well,
I
just
wanted
you
to
see
that
these
are
the
kind
of
seats
that
you
see
on
the
on
the
on
different
MPOs
that
were
surveyed
across
the
country.
You
see
arrangement.
I
Typically
it's
city
officials
and
county
officials,
elected
officials,
but
it's
also.
If
you
go
to
the
bottom
of
the
list,
you
see
things
like
private
sector.
You
know
different
authorities
from
some
different
organizations,
so
you
get
to
make
that
and
the
federal
government
gives
a
lot
of
flexibility
and
who
is
being
put
on
that
board.
So,
as
we've
left
it
open
now
we're
not
it's
still
considering
what
should
we
do
with
that
seat?
There's
a
lot
of
options
we
have
to
look
at
in
terms
of
who
we
can
include.
I
Also
thought:
do
you
find
this
interesting
and
the
number
of
times
that
policy
committees
me
how
everybody
meets
monthly?
Now,
that's
the
most
typical
about
happening
monthly,
but
many
others
meet
by
monthly.
Quarterly
and-
and
some
so
that's
also
something
that
considers
as
we
look
at
changing
some
of
the
I-
think,
there's
frequent
out
business.
That
monthly
is
fine,
but
that's
something
the
policy
committee
could
could
take
a
look
at
now
specific
responsibilities
of
this
NPO,
the
ones
that
are
reoccurring.
These
are
things
all
NPOs
have
to
do.
I
I
I
Text
short
term
and
the
longer-term
plans
over
the
the
tip
is
the
shortest
term
plan.
We
have
the
public,
this
patient
procedures,
bylaws
NPO
contract
and
then
the
ethics
policy
and
and
right
now
working
we're
going
through
all
that
process
right
now
to
be
in
compliance.
These
are
all
things
we
have
to
do
to
be
in
compliance
with
texts
out
in
the
federal
regulations,
proactive
planning.
This
is
we
want
to
tack
woman
this
coming
year
and
going
forward
we're
looking
at
the
active
transportation
plan,
we're
looking
at
a
possible
in
the
future.
I
Looking
at
the
connectivity
plan,
we're
working
on
rovol
quiet
zone,
we've
done
in
the
past
and
are
starting
to
implement
that
Complete
Streets
policy
that
the
MPO
staff
could
weigh
in
on
our
expertise,
we
wanna,
we
have
a
lot
of
data.
It's
not
curated
organized
very,
very
well,
because
we
haven't
had
dedicated
planner
of
GIS
that
we
want
people
to
have
that
data.
Then
it's
readily
available.
We
want
to
put
it
online,
so
you
can
see
a
lot
of
this
information
and
a
lot
of
times.
We
pull
up
these
diagrams.
I
There's
no
reason
these
diagrams
that
takes
on
has
access
to,
or
we
have
access
to
can't
be
online,
since
you
can
access
them
anywhere
when
you're
having
discussion.
So
what
people
are
considering
where
they're,
building
or
vineland
they
readily
know
what
we're
planning,
in
terms
of
where
we're
planning
to
build
roads
and
and
things
like
a
charlie.
Yes,
sir,.
A
I
know
the
city
of
Laredo
embarked
on
that
and
that
open
data
portals
or
whatever
the
Olmedo
IT
is
kind
of
heading.
That
is
is
that
something
that
we're
that's
progressing
I
hear
that
we
are
yes,
but
ultimately
we
want
to
upload
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
up.
You
know
all
the
data
where
the
public
can,
you
know,
can
view
it
and
make
decision.
So,
yes,.
I
A
I
In
related
data
speaks
efforts
were
doing
the
planning
department
and
our
goal
is
to
we're
gonna
beside
a
memo
soon
much
to
tell
you
what
our
plan
is
for
being
more
customer
focused
and
that's
the
essential
part
estimation
is
being
accessible
online,
having
data
and
applications
accessible
online
and
finally
increased
public
participation.
We
we've
done
everything
we
need
to
do
in
Vanessa
has
done
a
fantastic
job.
We
want
to
take
that
up
to
the
next
level
and
engaging
the
public
and
getting
more
public
input
on
how
our
our
transportation
is.
There's.
I
Yes,
sir
yeah
I'll
bring
the
smoke
around
me
so
how
we've
had
our
staff
organization?
Historically,
we
had
the
MPO
director
a
half
of
MgO
director
because
it
was
also
the
he's,
also
the
playing
director,
and
then
we
had
a
planner
three
and
we
had
a
clerk
for
so
essentially,
we
had
one
full-time
fighter
that
was
working
on
and
then
the
directors
participate
as
well.
I
You
know
the
federal
government
lives,
it
loves
beauty,
boxes
to
check,
she's
been
checking
all
of
them,
and
they
they
were
been
impressed
with
what
we've
done
and
I
think
she's
gonna
be
key
in
helping
us
to
get
in
new
staff
and
now
start
taking
the
appeal
in
a
different
direction
as
the
rate
of
pros,
as
it
becomes
a
bigger
region
and
a
more
important
region
with
all
the
freight
that's
coming
through.
We
need
to
have
planning
staff
that
are
looking
not
just
reactively
but
proactively
talking
about
some
of
these
plans
in
the
future.
I
What
can
we
do?
Where
are
we
going?
How
can
we
better
be
better
engaged?
And
so
that's
that
is
my
goal
as
the
director
that
helped
with
that
process
and
I
have
experience
doing
these
plans.
So
I
think
it's
gonna
be
a
great
fit
now
for
the
future,
and
this
is
where
I'd
like
to
get
your
questions
and
thoughts.
I
think
it
does
make
sense
that
at
some
point
the
MPO
be
its
own
organization
and
have
a
full-time
director.
I
When
you
do
that,
I,
don't
think
you
need
a
division
manager,
anymore,
you'll
have
an
NCO
director
and
then
you'll
have
the
planning
staff.
Now
there
are
a
couple
mpos
that
did
something
similar
recently
Corpus
Christi
a
few
years
ago
and
Amarillo
and
I've
been
talking
to
them
and
reaching
out
to
them.
Talking
about
that
change.
First
of
all,
that
change
took
a
lot
of
time
from.
I
To
the
actual
change,
it
wasn't
something
that
happened
quickly,
and
that
is
because
there
might
be
implications
to
who
your
fiscal
agent
is.
So
if
that
changes
that's
going
to
take
time
and
agreement,
it
takes
if
you're
leasing,
additional
space,
finding
additional
space
or
making
room
for
them
in
an
existing
area
somewhere
else,
that's
all
gonna
be
organized,
but
then
one
of
the
bigger
challenges
is
right.
Now
all
the
MPO
staff
are
employees
in
the
city.
I
So
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
give
me
three
or
five
years
to
build
this
NPO
up
to
get
some
planning
staff
to
get
some
expertise
and
making
some
long-range
plans
making
doing
plans
in-house
and
then
is
that
organization
isn't
mature,
then
it'd
be
easier
to
split
that
up
now.
What's
the
advantage
of
splitting
up
I
think
there's
some
disadvantages
because,
like
you
mentioned
commissioner
family,
you
said
our
legal
department,
when
you
said
are
you
meant
the
city's
legal
apartment
could
look
at
this
issue?
Well,.
I
E
E
J
E
G
I
E
J
Okay,
but
it
seems
like,
and
we've
been
doing,
a
great
job,
as
you
stated,
and
you
know,
but
with
what's
up
relatively
speaking
with
a
skeleton
crew,
we've
been
able
to
do
a
lot
of
you
know
great
work,
it
seems
just
kind
of
you
know.
Naturally,
I
mean
even
like
you
know,
with
our
own
business,
we
we've
added
a
couple
of
lawyers
to
our
firm.
J
We
added
a
private
investigator
like
we're,
we're
we're
we're
growing
and
and
we're
able
to
provide
a
much
higher
level
of
service
as
a
result
of
growing,
if
I
mean
just
common
sense
to
me,
seems
that
if
we
were
to
grow
and
build
a
an
MPO,
you
know
if
we
were
to
give
you
know
vanessa
the
extra
tools,
nothing
not
suggesting
you
would
leave
the
city
just
but
just
said
whatever,
as
miss
mr.
garrow
said
what
if
there
was
enough
money
to
no.
E
But
otherwise
the
example
he's
saying
is
you
he's
gonna
grow
it
and
then
we'll
send
him
up
with
an
establishing
appeal,
but
that's
just
to
say
again,
like
you're.
Definitely
saying:
okay,
you're
going
your
firm,
but
if
what
do
you
remember
leaves
and
saying?
Okay
now,
I
want
to
take
the
rest
of
your
crew
with
I
mean
it's
all
about
what
you're
gonna
offer
all
right
right
and.
I
So,
let's
not
sure
it's
an
additional
version
that
might
make
that
helpful
when
Vanessa
was
hired
and
I
had
this
conversation
with
her
when
she
was
hired,
she
was
hired
by
the
city
to
be
a
planner
for
the
city.
Her
expectation
was
to
be
with
the
city
if
we're
moving
forward
at
this
point,
with
my
recommendations
that
in
the
future
it
separates,
then
those
that
I'm
hiring
I'm
saying
this
is
a
possibility.
Are
you
are
you
agreeing
to
that?
Are
you
wanting
to
do
that?
E
To
me
that
you
know
we're
heading
in
that
direction,
it
would
be
better
to
say
alright
I'm
going
to
hire
a
MPO
staff
member
who's
going
to
be
a
MPO
staff
member,
but
in
consideration
for
housing
from
the
city
in
consideration
for
x,
y&z
from
the
city
they're
going
to
contribute
X
number
of
hours
to
the
city.
That
would
be
under
your
direction
and
so
on,
but
they're
technically
a
MPL
staff
number.
That's.
J
J
But
what
you're
suggesting
is
to
have
MPO
staff,
not
city
staff,
no
working
for
the
NPO
or
vice
versa.
Don't
you
have
any
staff
working
for
the
appeal?
Why
not
have
NPO
staff
working
for
the
NPO?
We
house
them
wherever
we
want,
but
let's
have
a
set
of
highly
trained.
You
know
professional
planners
working
for
being
NPO.
That
would
answer
directly
to
this
commission.
J
I
That
I'm
hiring
right
now,
that
is
the
understanding
we're
bringing
them
in
that
they're
working
for
the
NPO,
but
technically,
because
this
is
the
fiscal
agent
providing
the
benefits
they
are
working
for
the
city,
if
you
put
the
MPO
cannot
have
it
cannot
be
its
own
fiscal
agent.
There
has
to
be
somebody
spending
the.
D
J
I
B
E
You
think
so,
whatever
we
do
is
being
housed
as
a
city
employee,
you
know,
obviously,
we
receive
City
benefits
you're
on
your.
You
know.
Whatever
the
you
know,
the
retirement
system
there
you
paddle
to
all
of
that,
and
so
and
they
would
be.
You
know
that
their
boss
is
the
city
of
Radel.
It's
not
the
MPO.
Well,.
E
J
How
is
it
that
the
city
staff
working
for
MPO
projects
would
be
more
committed
to
the
MPO
itself?
In
other
words,
how
can
you
have
the
fiscal
agent
and
all
of
all
of
those
components
compartmentalized,
so
that
we
can
have
our
NPO
staff
truly
tracking
MPO
policy
that
we
put
together
as
a
commissioner
well.
I
A
J
Yeah
I've
seen
I've
seen
what
I've
seen
that
I've
seen
where
the
city,
the
MPO,
runs
down
some
City
priority
kind
of
at
the
expense
of
the
MPO
collective
will.
If
you
will
and
I've
seen
that
and
so
yeah
it
doesn't
warrant
and
he
just
weren't
a
separate
discussion
and
some
sort
of
framework
to
insulate
MPO
staff
from
the
fiscal
agent.
So.
G
I
G
She
also
comes
like
to
the
City
Council
on
planning
and
zoning
tensions,
and
things
like
that
that
are
not
related
to
NPR.
So
the
way
that
I
see
it
is
that
they
have
been
working
doing
both
duties.
So
then,
is
this
provisional
tea
from
a
point
certain
now
a
hundred
percent,
it's
just
MPO,
and
then
it
depends
how
I
will
be
just
concerned
if
they,
if
they're
gonna,
have
the
same
pay
and
the
same
benefits.