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Metropolitan Policy Organiztion Meeting 061818
A
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
thank
you
for
joining
us
I'm,
calling
this
meeting
to
order.
This
is
the
Loretto
urban
transportation
study
or
we
call
it
the
MPO,
the
policy
committee
we're
meeting
here
at
City
Hall
at
the
city,
Laredo
City,
Council,
Chambers,
1110,
Houston
Street,
and
today's
is
June
the
18th
at
2018,
and
it's
one
through
it's
a
140
140
p.m.
B
A
C
Cross
I'm,
the
managing
partner
of
Pinnacle
industry
Center
and
the
organizer
of
a
coalition
called
echar
Road.
Now,
first
of
all,
thank
you
all
very
much
for
all
the
hard
work
you've
done
in
bringing
HR
Road
a
much-needed
connector
between
mines,
Road
on
I-35,
to
the
point
that
it's
at
today
it's
taken
a
lot
of
time
and
a
lot
of
effort
on
all
of
y'all's
part
private
sector
is
now
mind.
You
we
as
a
char
Road,
now
are
a
group
of
landowners
developers
and
people
business.
C
C
My
understanding
of
where
those
engineering
contracts
are
at
this
time
as
it
relates
to
the
county.
The
procurement
procedure
for
the
funds
associated
with
that
have
been
reviewed
by
text
dot
and
those
have
met
with
their
approval
and
I
understand
that
a
contract
between
the
engineering,
firm
and
the
county
is
currently
being
reviewed
by
textile
I.
A
F
F
We
anticipate
mr.
Crouse
that
will
have
that
review
done
in
approximately
a
week.
I
think
there
were
a
lot
of
comments
on
the
contract,
but
a
lot
of
semantics
as
well
you're,
not
necessarily
that
are
hard.
You
know
revisions,
but
so
a
lot
of
environmental
comments,
but
we
anticipate
that
in
about
a
week
we'll
have
those
comments
compiled
and
ready
to
share
with
Webb
County.
D
Used
to
mayor
yes,
sir
clemmy's,
mr.
Crouse,
thank
you
for
coming
forward.
Yeah,
maybe
a
you
know
we
were
being
created.
Maybe
it'd
be
hitch
our
Road
yesterday.
Maybe
it
would
be
an
appropriate
name
for
y'all's
organization,
because
your
frustrations,
as
you
would
imagine,
are,
are
I.
Think
a
lot
of
our
frustrations,
which
is
you
know
if
you
know
our.
D
Happen
and
what
are
the
roadblocks
at
at
txdot
I
mean
it's?
Not
the
ball
is
not
in
in
our
court.
The
city
I,
don't
think
it's
in
your
court
at
the
county,
so
you
know
what
and
I
know
you're
you're.
You
know
the
only
one
kind
of
sitting
here
among
other
txdot
colleagues,
but
you're
kind
of
in
the
hot
seat.
So
you
know
we
yes
well.
D
This
needs
to
like
be
on
a
fast
track,
because
it
is
extremely
frustrating
to
me
because
it
seems,
like
we've,
been
all
duly
gathered
here
once
before,
and
it's
deja
vu
all
over
again.
You
know
if
it's
you
know
it's
that
it's
this
procurement
issue,
it's
this
contract
issue,
it's
one
thing
after
another
and
my
understanding
is
that
they,
the
county,
followed
text,
dots
instructions
on
how
to
you
know,
prepare
the
contract,
how
to
go
through
the
procurement
process.
D
It
was
good
to
go
and
then
we
kind
of
you
know
we
have
this
bottleneck
of
red
tape
to
mix
my
metaphors.
Where
were
again
looking
to
you
all
to
get
this
done.
I
understand
it's
been
on
your
text
thoughts.
You
know
radar,
for
at
least
you
know,
15
years
you
mean
were
chars,
Minh
didn't
just
fall
out
of
the
sky.
D
All
of
a
sudden,
it's
been
programmed,
it's
been
thought
out,
we're
all
doing
our
part
from
a
policy
level,
but
now
we
need
that
that
bureaucratic
malaise
to
be
removed
and
for
this
to
be
put
on
a
fast
track,
because
you
know
we've
seen
Ford
take
500
crossings
too
far.
We've
seen
all
these
other.
You
know
customs
brokers
and
freight
forwarders
and
transportation
companies.
D
The
relocation
process
is
it's
underway
and
I
think
we're
all
scurrying
frantically
to
have
to
make
the
right
policy
decisions
so
that
that
market
share
does
not
continue
to
be
bled
away
and
lost
and
the
the
the
the
metric
is
going
to
be.
How
quickly
will
tech
stop
respond
to
getting
this
done
now,
as
opposed
to
sometime
later,
but.
F
Mayor
now
to
answer
your
question:
councilman,
the
procurement
portion
that
you're
referencing,
that
you
know
we
have
been
under
review-
is
the
portion
for
the
Ruth
injure
leg,
not
the
achar
leg
that
goes
from
1472
to
Beltway,
so
the
portion
that
the
procurement
was
under
review
by
Texas
Department
of
Transportation
was
for
the
Ruth
injure
Lake.
Now
approximately
two
weeks
ago
or
more,
the
procurement
process
was
approved
by
Texas,
Department
transportation
and
I
can
tell
you
that
there
was
an
approved
procurement
process
that
was
not
followed
to
the
tea.
F
But
I
am
happy
to
report
that
our
attorneys
at
text
department
transportation,
have
been
over
backwards
to
allow
for
flexibility
within
that
procurement
process
and
as
such,
we
approved
the
procurement
process
as
such,
even
with
those
little
variances
from
what
was
approved
as
the
procurement
process
to
follow
so
that
was
approved
and
sent
to
the
county
via
email.
Roughly
two
weeks
ago
or
more
so,
the
county
has
received
official
approval
to
procure
that
consultant.
I
think.
F
A
G
F
Right,
the
reason
that
that
was
redone
is
because
the
estimate
for
the
project
needed
to
be
an
independent
estimate.
The
estimate
that
was
provided
for
the
project
was
done
by
the
consultant
that
was
trying
to
procure
the
work
so
that
there,
in
lies,
a
conflict.
So
what's
needed
was
an
estimate
that
was
independent
of
anybody.
That's
pretty.
F
G
H
F
F
G
A
G
I
A
B
All
I
understanding,
it's
90
percent
to
10
percent,
revolves
around
getting
the
final
Docs
submitted
to
text
on
I
mean
that's,
that's
what
it
is,
but
he's
correct.
It's
been
sitting
there
for
a
while
Denham
valve
added
to
I
think
Eve.
Ninety
percent,
and
it
was
stopped
at
the
point
that
the
the
contract
with
Dan
and
bound
expired
and
the
city
elected
not
to
proceed
at
that
time
and
wait
and
see
what
was
at
that
point.
B
A
I
Correct
the
Ruth
inter
portion,
what
what
what
mr.
Bratton
said
is
correct.
The
the
way
I
understand
it,
the
the
entire
environmental
assessment
document,
the
the
the
application
for
that
environmental
assessment
and
an
ultimate
FONSI,
hopefully
has
to
be
from
terminus
to
terminus,
which
is
the
mouth
or
the
opening
at
mines
Road
all
the
way
through,
which
is
an
eight
point,
one
mile
track
through
the
char
through
Ruth
injure,
which
ultimately
terminates
at
I-35.
I
So
our
engineering
has
done
to
the
extent
that
it
can
be
as
it's
waiting
for
the
extra
engineering
from
Ruth
and
sure
to
be
added
and
then
any
slight
yaw
on
the
road,
as
it
leaves
a
char
and
goes
and
Ruth
injure.
Then
that
can
be
put
together
and
we
are.
We
are
very
optimistic
that
we
can
get
that
to
tech
stop
before
the
end
of
the
year.
For
the
beginning
of
the
assessment,
okay
and.
I
Well,
it's
got
a
big
Corp
and
on
September
the
17th
I
have
that
kind
of
in
in
my
laptop.
But
we
were.
There
was
a
resolution.
It
was
unanimously
passed
by
the
City
Council
to
allow
foetida
Corp,
which
is
the
development
company
for
the
char
truss,
to
continue
with
that,
so
that
we're
going
to
be
working
with
gilt
and
engineering
and
with
the
county
and
with
other
engineers
that
we've
secured
some
out
of
Austin
to
put
together
that
document,
and
it
submit
that
so.
D
D
D
I
And
I
would
estimate
three
to
four
months,
although
that
may
be
in
the
timeline
that
we're
gonna
see
here
from
from
the
county.
Once
they're
engineering
begins,
but
that's
been
the
problem.
The
engineering
has
not
begun
since
May.
This
is
the
third
procurement.
Third,
so
you
know
hopefully
at
third
time's,
okay.
A
Let
me
ask
you
this,
so
this
Fonzie
phase
that
were
you
know,
working
on.
That's
that's
paid
for
I
mean
the
financing.
Is
there
yeah?
You
would
take
up
whatever
the
balance
was
under
the
prior
contract
and
you'll
finish
that
in
the
county
has
has
its
obligated
its
help,
also
to
pay
for
that
portion.
So
that's
my
understanding,
correct
them
and
there's
no
missing
funds
there.
You
know
that's
covered
them.
That's
correct!.
B
What
will
happen
is
the
county's
already
got
the
three
hundred
thousand
I
think
it's
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
an
AFA
that
they
signed
with
text
dot
and
the
city
has
the
balance
remaining
that
would
have
been
paid
to
Dan
and
Dom.
Had
they
completed
the
contract
that
will
be
used
by
the
very
core
group
and
that
agreement
that
just
memorializes
that
transaction
will
be
a
380
agreement
that
will
be
coming
forward
to
the
City
Council
mid
July,
okay,.
I
F
F
K
K
A
A
F
K
K
A
K
Okay
and
getting
getting
the
work
together,
it's
what
we're
trying
to
do
right
now,
so
we
have
two
different
contracts.
One
is
a
380
that
Nick
was
talking
about
with
the
city,
so
that's
real
close,
maybe
by
a
couple
weeks
or
a
month
from
now,
and
if
we
can
get
the
contract
on
the
other
one
in
about
the
same
timeframe
that
we
can
begin
putting
together
in
mid-july,
specifically.
F
I
mean
we
have
on
a
Duncan
and
Roberto
Rodriguez
that
are
reviewing
the
procurement
of
the
project
as
we
move
on
to
schematic.
You
know
about
they'll
be
involved,
but
we
have
some
design.
Staff
will
be
involved
in
that
as
well,
and
then,
of
course,
you
there's
PS
and
E,
but
remember
that
you
know
this
project
is
being
developed
as
an
all
system
project
right
now,
so
our
involvement
would
be
to
review
design
if
there
is
some
intent
to
design
this
to
state
standards
for
possible
future
turnover.
J
D
That's
what
you're
just
the
design
right,
correct?
Okay,
so
we
know
it's
we're
going
that
direction.
So
what
can
text
do
proactively?
Can
y'all
like
assign
staff
to
be
engaged
all
along
the
way
and
like
even
show
up
to
these
MPO
meetings
so
that
we're
all
we're
all
kind
of
marching?
With
the
same
you
know,
drumbeat.
F
F
D
We're
losing
to
you
guys
at
home,
watching
we
are
losing
market
share
and
we
need
you
meaningfully
engaged
in
this
process,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
and
businesses
in
Laredo
that
are
counting
on
on
interagency
cooperation.
So
this
project
is,
you
know,
HR
yesterday
and
not
HR
sometime
in
the
distance.
F
Again,
you
have
to
clarify
we
again.
We
don't
have
other
than
an
agreement
that
we
have
for
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
for
CBI
money
to
be
spent
by
the
county
to
sponsor
the
Ruth
injure
portion
of
schematic
environmental
there's,
no
existing
agreement
again
to
take
over
a
char
at
this
time.
Officially,
on
sis.
F
The
steps-
and
you
know
maybe
discuss
you-
know
oftentimes.
There
is
a
Lane
mile
transfer
Lane
mile
per
Lane
mile
oftentimes
for
projects
like
these.
When
the
state's
going
to
take
over
on
system
miles,
we
probably
need
to
discuss
and
determine,
but
I
think
you're
in
the
right,
you're
you're
on
the
right
path
here.
D
We're
trying
to
fix
a
text,
farm-to-market
problem
and
and
and
it's
at
some
point
in
time,
I
mean
I.
Just
think
that
you
know
text
out
has
to
recognize
that
you
know
FM
1472,
at
least
up
until
the
Columbia
interchange
needs
a
name
change,
because
it's
it's
not
a
little
farm-to-market
anymore.
It
is
the
hub
of
international
commerce
as
it
relates
to
and.
F
I
said
I've
said
that
many
times
that
an
FM
Road
carrying
nearly
60,000
vehicles
a
day
is
functioning
almost
as
an
interstate,
because
our
I-35
in
the
urban
area
is
carrying
nearly
the
same
amount
of
traffic
every
day.
So
you
know
we're
we're
expecting
an
FM
road
to
act
like
an
interstate
which
is
a
major
undertaking.
Okay,.
F
Make
those
upgrades
it
has
to
meet
standards,
so
an
interstate
would
require
main
lanes
and
frontage
roads.
Typically,
you
know
you're
looking
at
minimum
400
feet
of
right
away,
which
FM
1472
does
not
the
volume
of
rhino
a
acquisition
I
would
anticipate
I
don't
have
a
dollar
figure
would
be
a
very
large
figure.
So
that's
something
that
we
would
have.
G
F
D
Text
up,
that's
like
proactively
trying
to
solve
or
crack
the
the
mines
Road
1472
code
to
help
us
look,
I
mean
we're
a
city
or
a
county.
You
know
we're,
you
know
we're
not
it's
it's
not
even
our
Road,
but
we're
trying
to
you
know
be
we're
trying
to
we're
trying
to
figure
it
out
and
it
seems
like,
but.
D
J
F
As
a
County
as
an
MPO,
you
know
we
have
been
discussing
FM
1472
for
as
long
as
I
can
remember
been
here
since
1995,
so
and
not
only
from
a
local
perspective,
state
and
city
and
county.
Have
we
been
trying
looking
at
these
issues
for
all
these
years,
but
I
think
from
a
state
perspective?
You
know
we
have
a
freight
committee
here
in
Texas
and
you
have
people
here
in
this
room
and
in
the
community
that
are
active
participants
of
that
freight
transportation
plan.
Those
roads
are
discussed
in
that
plan.
Isn't.
K
Out,
let
me
go
back.
I
have
a
real,
simple
thing,
that's
thrown
in
here,
and
that
is
just
using
some
round
numbers
which
were
thrown
around
a
while.
There
was
60,000
okay.
When
you
have
that
much
traffic
movement
on
35
and
on
mines
Road.
There
there's
a
reason
why
those
are
coincident.
It's
the
same
traffic
more
than
us
mm-hmm.
K
You
all
know
how
the
traffic
flows.
If
you
divide
that
into
two
and
you
have
30,000
on
one
road
and
30,000
the
other
now
there's
60,000
back
at
35.
35
will
be
about
the
same
little
different
in
some
spots.
But
if
you
can
pull
off
about
half
the
traffic
that
you're
used
to
dealing
with
on
the
other
road
and
get
them
to
go
across
and
I
saw
the
road,
that's
a
big
part
of
the
answer.
Mm-Hmm
so
I
think
that's
the
fastest
way
to
see
a
big
impact.
Okay,.
J
A
K
At
that
point
is
when
you
can
go
ahead
and
acquire
the
right
away
and
that's
that's
a
critical
step,
because
it's
a
rare
occurrence,
you're
gonna,
have
this
much
right
away,
acquired
this
easily.
Look
if
it's,
oh,
but
I,
think
we
have
promises
now
from
both
landowners
to
acquire
right.
Okay,
but
you
need
the
Fonzi
and
you
need
everything
in
order
to
get
the
acquisition
exactly
right,
because
you
can't
there
can't
be
a
mismatch,
but
I
think
those
are
given
right.
K
A
B
B
D
B
D
A
B
C
H
K
A
couple
of
key
points
about
that
is
at
this
point.
What
we
need
to
get
to
those
days
is,
we
need
those
contracts.
So
we've
got
about
four
weeks
that
we've
talked
about
related
to
hitting
those
contracts.
We've
got
two
people
in
the
room
that
are
working
on
one
of
those
contracts.
They
can
speak
directive
of
that
the
other
one
is
under
review
at
X
dot
and
that's
a
critical
issue
because
they
can't
you
know
you
can't
start
with
just
one
of
them.
You
got
to
have
both
of
them
to
move
forward.
H
D
F
Reason,
I
I,
anticipate
that
you
know.
Hopefully
everybody
will
come
through
and
submit
their
comments
by
the
end
of
next
week,
but
you
know
we'll
definitely
I'll
make
a
note
that
by
not
this
Friday
but
next
Friday
to
to
get
you
all
an
email
saying
there
have
been
compiled,
we've
received
everything
or
when
we
anticipate
it.
Okay,.
A
F
F
K
A
B
Cost
twenty
million
four
hundred
forty
thousand
that's
in
the
should
be,
and
the
UTP
mayor
one
things
I
wanted
to
suggest
you
is
that
the
county
engineer
has
an
extensive
PowerPoint.
That
goes
through
all
of
these
point
by
point,
and
you
may
want
to
bring
them
up,
because
it's
it's
more
specific
than
what's
up
there.
Okay,
and
it
actually
calls
that
I,
don't
need
different,
different
benchmarks
and
so
forth.
It
might
be
a
little
bit.
Okay,.
M
Finest
good
afternoon,
chairman
Luis
Potosi,
yet
web
beyond
the
engineer,
welcomes
Eckert
I,
think
everybody
that
has
come
before
you
today
has
talked
about
various
different
portions
of
what
I'm
getting
ready
to
give
you
in
a
concise
report
and
I.
Think
we've
all
gathered
that
we
want
this
to
be
built
as
soon
as
possible
because
of
the
issues
that
we
have
on
the
current
1472
and
the
loop
and
the
various
issues
that
the
transportation
industry
has
in
that
port
in
that
portion
of
town.
So
I'll
start
with
my
presentation
and
then
we'll
ask
questions.
M
Several
people
in
here
have
been
allowed
to
comment
on
this
situation,
so
it's
kind
of
a
group
effort.
That's
brought
this
forward
to
you
with
the
cooperation
of
the
engineering
firm,
now
I
know,
I,
see
it
here
and
I
guess:
I
see
it
there.
So
I'm
gonna
focus
on
what
I've
got
in
front
of
me
and
you
guys
can
ask
questions.
M
We're
gonna,
distribute
a
copy
of
the
presentation.
It
is
in
the
format
on
an
eight-and-a-half
by
11
sheet
of
paper
will
be
more
than
glad
to
send
the
electronic
portion
to
anyone
that
requests
it.
It
is
a
public
document
and
it
does
have
some
very
detailed
information
that
we
will
be
going
over.
This
is
the
flood
plain
map
that
discusses
everything
that
we
have.
The
HR
section
is
in
yellow
the
Ruth's
inner
portion
is
in
blue
and
the
aquamarine
or
lighter
blue
that
you
see
there
is
creak,
and
it's
100-year
floodplain
associated
with
this.
That.
M
Got
to
believe
it's
the
there's
only
one
that
exists
at
this
point
once
the
road
is
constructed,
then
there
will
be
another
HNH
study
to
update.
Why
would
you
do
that?
Because
the
road
is
gonna
have
an
issue
and
it's
going
to
have
a
culvert
underneath
it
and
once
you
put
a
culvert
on
it,
things
change
but
I'm.
Just
saying.
M
A
M
M
M
M
You
have
I-35
going
to
the
Northeast
and
you
have
a
charm
road
and
then
the
portion
that
goes
off
to
the
north
is
the
Routh
intersection
of
the
chart
road,
and
that
just
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
information
regarding
the
land
ownership
I'm
going
to
go
through
this
pretty
quickly,
I
believe
several
people
have
already
presented
parts
of
this
to
you
again.
Here
we
are
with
with
the
contracts
and
where
we're
going
with
it
and
here's.
This
is
where
we
are
right.
M
M
So
here's
some
of
the
funding
information-
and
this
is
a
char
phase,
one
and
two-
and
we
were
talking
about
the
1.6
million
dollars
of
category
7
funds
again
for
the
Attar
phase,
one
and
phase
two
at
our
phase:
1
construction,
slash
construction
engineering.
This
is
a
cost
estimate
based
on
the
information
that's
already
been
presented
and
we'll
give
you
some
more
information
as
we
go
through
the
discussion
for.
M
M
M
Program
and
we'll
be
going
through
this
again,
we
present
to
you.
The
information
will
be
more
than
glad
to
present
it
to
you,
because
it
will
be.
It
will
get
to
a
point
where
the
spreadsheet
will
be
hard
to
read.
Okay,
so
here
we
are
the
face,
and
this
is
what
Nathan
was
referring
to.
Is
the
Ruth
intersection
again,
twenty-one
million
dollars-
and
this
is
program
money.
Also,
this
project
has
a
construction
cost
with
three
years
of
compounded
interest,
plus
civil
engineering
and
contingencies.
M
A
B
F
A
F
N
B
A
B
You
had
asked
at
one
point
about
the
economically
disadvantaged
or
distressed
counties
reduction.
Webb
County
is
no
longer
on
that
list.
It
used
to
be
that
that
20%
would
be
further
reduced
with
techstop
money
to
offset
that
reduction
by
up
to
79
percent,
but
only
if
you
appeared
on
that
list-
and
we
have
not
appeared
on
that
list
last
year,
and
so
we
were
there
the
year
before
we're
off
now.
B
B
G
M
A
G
M
We've
rounded
up
the
numbers
and
the
monies
is
still
to
be
discussed
in
this
discussion.
You
know
this.
This
is
a
very
important
part
of
this
discussion
is
the
fact
that
we've
got
willing
landowners
that
are
going
to
be
giving
us
the
400
foot
strip
section.
That's
a
really
really
really
important
part,
as
you
heard
on
the
loop
20
we're
still
having
trouble
with
right-of-way
acquisition
there
right
away
on
this
section,
as
the
gentleman
before
me
have
presented
to
you
is
ready
to
be
given
to
us
as
soon
as
we
present
the
foot.
Now
we.
A
M
Of
course,
here's
some
of
the
paperwork
that
describes
where
these
monies
were
and
when
they
were
put
into
the
funding
program
for
this
we've
highlighted
some
of
them
and
I
was
referring
to
earlier,
where
we
have
a
26
million
dollar
cost
and
and
I
believe.
This
is
not
that
we're
not
there
yet,
but
these
are
the
discussions
that
we've
had
as
the
Luntz
committee
for
the
funding.
M
There's
a
critical
path
that
will
go
through
shortly
and
I
believe
we're
almost
were
there
the
construction
funds
which
are
not
available
in
till
September
22nd
of
the
first
2020
construction
funds
would
be
needed
to
be
accelerated
for
achar
by
six
months
and
combined
project
for
the
project
through
thinger
funds
2023
and
would
need
to
be
accelerated
by
30
months.
We
need
we
do
need
assistance
in
moving
those
forward
again.
M
These
are
the
major
milestones
and
and
where
we
are
with
the
project,
and
then
here
we
go
into
the
nitty-gritty
timeline
that
everything
is
scheduled
on,
and
then
these
are
critical
paths.
If
somebody
slows
us
down
on
one
of
these
items,
we
will
push
the
project
timeline
beyond
where
we
are
today.
This
is
very
detailed,
again
I'm
more
than
willing
to
send
an
electronic
copy
so
that
you
can
look
at
it
at
a
scale
where
you
don't
have
to
use
a
magnifying
glass
to
look
at
it.
M
M
M
A
D
A
B
B
A
B
A
A
D
Open
things
up
by
saying
we
went
to
the
bicycle
pedestrian
conference
and
in
Austin,
and
we
were
presented
by
this
gentleman
here
with
regard
to
fair
county,
fair
county
MPO,
as
was
the
Ocampo
mpos
adoption.
Thank
you
of
this
vision,
0
and
it
made
it.
It
made
an
impression
on
me
because
of
the
amount
of
pedestrian
bicycle
and
vehicle
accidents,
injuries
and
deaths
that
occur
here
on
Lorado.
The
statistics
are
troubling,
and
so
you
know
that
there,
other
communities
are
addressing
how
they
can
reduce,
if
not
eliminate,
zero,
eliminate
accidents
and
fatalities
on
their
roadways.
D
O
Great,
thank
you
all
so
much
for
having
me
here
and
for
everything
you
do
for
all
the
people
of
Laredo
and
Webb
County
I
am
with
a
501c3
nonprofit
called
farm
and
city,
and
we
do
statewide
policy
work
on
urban
planning,
transportation,
sustainability
and
equity
issues,
and
just
one
little
thing
as
an
aside,
one
of
the
big
projects
were
working
on
is
transit
and
I
said
we
just
did
a
big
event
in
San
Antonio
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
guys
know
about
this.
O
We
are
working
with
the
legislature
next
year
to
try
to
get
better
transit
funding,
and
the
key
is
that
Texas
and
Ohio
are
the
only
states
with
big
metros,
where
there's
zero,
dedicated
transit
funding
for
big
metros
and
so
in
Texas.
The
dedicated
transit
funding
for
metros
with
less
than
200,000
people,
and
so
you
guys
would
be
part
of
that
campaign
to
try
to
get
at
least
some
more
state
transit
funding.
O
O
You
know
we
should
design
our
systems,
assume
people
will
make
mistakes
and
and
and
and
that
we
should
design
the
systems
when
people
make
mistakes
that
people
know
that
and
and
that
generally
we
we
need
leadership
to
prioritize
safety,
which
a
lot
of
people
text
that
people
do
great
work
all
day
long
to
your
city.
County
people
do
great
work
all
day,
long
on
safety
and
vision.
O
Now,
whereas
here
in
Texas
the
starts
sort
of
funny,
the
blue
line
is
actual
traffic
fatalities
in
Texas
and
they've
been
going
up
again
and
the
the
part
where
all
these
different
parts
merge
is
sort
of
today,
and
this
is
sort
of
there's
a
question
and
the
strategic
highway
safety
plan.
The
text
thought
was
developing
of
what
should
our
goal
be
for
five
years
from
now,
and
so
the
assumed
the
blue
line
is
what
we
think
will
happen,
but
we'll
get
four
hundred
more
people
dying
every
year
and.
O
And
so
population
is
also
increasing,
so
this
one
actually
takes
that
into
this
is
sort
of
deaths
per
person,
and
so
essentially,
our
goal
is
to
stay
where
we
are
and
not
get
safer
or
more
dangerous,
just
to
kind
of
stay,
just
as
dangerous
as
we
are,
whereas,
for
example,
say
of
California's
goal
is
to
reduce
this
and
they
have
been
reducing
actual
total
deaths
in
California,
and
so
both
states
achieve
their
goals
in
2020.
Texas
will
be
twice
as
dangerous
as
California
to
use
it
because
all
the
Californians.
O
And
so
there's
just
an
example.
Is
there
are
two
jurisdictions
in
Texas
that
have
adopted
vision,
zero
action
plans,
that's
Austin
and
San
Antonio
and
the
chart
on
the
right
is
Austin
has
actually
it's
really
too
early
to
tell
but
the
last
two
years
they
have
seen
reductions
in
traffic
deaths
and
they
are
on
target
for
their
goal.
O
And
just
I
don't
know
if
have
a
site
about,
but
simply
something
City
of
Austin
tons.
They
identified
the
hundred
worst
intersections
and
said
we're
gonna
go
fix
the
ten
worst
ones,
and
so
they
have
and
then
each
one
they
went
and
said
what
is
happening
and
so
there's
an
example
is
I-35
and
Martin
Luther
King
Boulevard.
It
was
basically
a
pedestrian
was
dining
every
year
on
the
slip
lanes,
and
so
they
what
they
did
is
just
put
a
raised
crosswalk
in.
O
So
this
basically
speed
bump
right
where
you
would
encounter
the
pedestrian
and
that's
basically
take
care
of
that,
and
so
the
ten
projects
they've
done,
they
believe
are
they've
reduced
crashes,
sixty
percent
already
on
those
intersections,
and
they
believe
that
they've
completely
reduced
the
fatalities.
Yeah.
Let.
A
O
Let
me,
then,
just
lay
far
along
to
I
have
a
slide
thing.
So
what
we
hope
NPOs
will
do,
is
first
to
discuss
this
and
take
the
time
to
talk
about
it
and
decide
what
you
want
to
do
and
then,
if
you
want
to
do
it,
establish
a
goal
and
need
some
amount
of
thinking
about
what
would
be
a
reasonable
goal.
The
and
then
there
are
several
steps
like
a
regional
I,
would
assume
you
would
want
some
kind
of
regional
vision,
zero
task
force.
O
Do
you
guys
soon,
maybe
have
committees
like
a
bicycle
committee
or
a
technical
advisory
committee.
So
you,
the
MPO,
might
set
up
such
a
committee
and
then
really
what
we
would
hope
you
would
do
is
integrate
that
vision,
zero
into
everything.
The
appeal
is
already
doing.
So
in
your
your
tip
in
your
regional
transportation
plan
and
your
the
metrics
you
use
for
your
call
for
projects
you
just
integrate
that
priority,
so
it.
O
A
G
G
G
You
have
two
jobs
of
a
plan,
you're
gonna
say
instead
of
investing,
you
know
we're
going
to
take
a
million
dollars
out
of
new
new
construction
and
have
to
put
it
to
retrofit
these
intersections
to
stop
all
of
our
kids
and
families
from
whatever
it's
just
a
commitment
amongst
us
or
the
city
of
Laredo.
You've.
A
D
O
O
O
A
Any
thoughts
along
those
lines
and
it's
really
the.
G
D
G
You
only
have
X
amount
of
dollars.
If
you
have
ten
million
dollars
for
this
year
and
you're,
saying
I
got
two
bad
intersections:
do
I
build
new
stuff
or
not
fix
these
two
right
and
I
put
one
bank
and
you're
going
to
do
the
the
Fletcher
Lane
alignment?
You
know
that
that's
basically
the
same
principle
right,
you're
you're
lining
that
the
better
traffic
flow
and
for
safety.
A
Suggestion
is
to
categorize
it
maybe
over
the
next
next
city
or
us.
You
know
what
categories
in
the
intersection,
so
this
is
pedestrian
and
just
so
we
get
a
better
feel
and
I
know
you're,
probably
having
your
report,
but
since
we're
running
short
on
time
here,
maybe
in
the
screen,
blinded
see
what
categories
are
impacted
and
then
you
know
get
a
bit
of
a
feel
for
it.
Do
you
think,
without
what.
D
G
Traffic,
oh
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
that,
but
I'm
saying
if
we're
saying
I
want
to
adopt
the
division.
Zeroes
policy
I,
don't
know
what
they
are
and
so
that
you
know
what
works
in.
Austin
may
not
work
here,
and
so
you
don't
want
to
just
adopt
everybody
else's
policies.
We
may
need
tweaking
you
know
whatever,
sir,
but
the
goal
is
good.
Go
devotion.
D
B
You're
gonna
need
engineering,
it's
the
city,
department
may
or
may
not
need
planning,
which
is
a
city
department,
and
so
it
makes
more
sense
to
it,
though,
to
to
run
that
particular
directive
through
the
City
Council
and
then
once
that
committee
comes
up
with
the
policies
and
Stokes
and
so
forth.
I
would.
B
This
is,
he
said,
Austin
adopted
first
and
then
the
MPO
stepped
into
line,
so
it's
coming
from
the
ground
up
so
that
you
have
cohesiveness.
The
MPO
is
not
going
to
be
the
one
that's
going
to
be
establishing
those
those
specific
criteria
that
that
carry
out
or
implement
your
objectives
and
goals.
Well,.
D
Let's
say
the
height
our
project
right,
you
know
one
of
these
days
in
the
distant
future,
God
willing
this
project
tumbler
yeah
fruition
right
if
they
had
a
set
of
vision,
zero
principles
that
were
by
the
MPO
and
we're
now
part
of
their
design,
then
then
I'll
be
there.
What
kind
of
cooking
with
fire.
B
D
G
My
personal
hesitation
right
now
is
this
vision,
sir.
If
you
want
to
say
it's
the
safety
committee
trying
to
develop
policies
that
has
a
vision
of
zero
fatalities.
I'm,
ok
with
that
mm-hmm,
but
saying
I'm
gonna,
do
this
gentleman's
organization
or
that
gentleman's
organization
I'm
not
gonna,
vote
for
that
right
now,
oh.
D
G
G
A
A
Traffic
operations
specialist
before
you
you
get
started,
yeah
I
got
to
go
to
I,
get
prepare
for,
for
you
know
the
City
Council
meeting
later
on.
Ok,
thank
you.
P
Done
Steve
Radke
federal
arbitration,
Texas
division
safety
and
traffic
operations,
specialist
I've
been
working
in
highway
safety
for
about
15
years
now,
evacs
been
working
on
some
form
of
snow
death
for
about
a
decade
now,
starting
back
in
Nevada
when
they
adopted
theirs
in
2009.
So
we've
got
a
lot
of
history,
I'm
gonna,
just
kind
of
sum
up
where
we
came
from
some
of
the
things
that
are
going
on
nationally
and
in
Texas,
and
some
of
the
things
that
federal
highways
is
supporting
for
advancing
traffic
safety.
P
So
just
quickly
I'll
talk
about
what
is
vision,
0
talk
about
some
of
the
principles
and
get
more
into
those
details
about
what
those
principles
are
and
then
practices.
What
does
that
actually
mean
we're
gonna
do
and
then
one
of
the
things
that
I
do
itbest
at
federal
highways
is
provide
links
to
more
information,
people
that
are
doing
these
things
and
things
that
can
be
helpful
to
you.
P
So,
as
we've
already
sort
of
hinted
at
no
loss
of
life
is
acceptable.
We
should
expect
that
everyone
who
uses
our
transportation
system,
whether
they're,
driving
or
walking
or
biking
or
in
a
bus
or
in
a
train,
is
going
to
get
home
safely.
Those
people
get
deserve
to
get
to
home,
their
families
enjoy
those
holidays
and
do
be
able
to
do
that
safely,
and
we
ask
also
that
traffic
fatality
injuries
are
preventable.
P
We
know,
may
not
know
exactly
where
kind
of
lilies
are
gonna
happen,
but
all
the
time
we
do
know
what
sort
of
crashes
are
going
to
happen.
We
look
at
our
system.
We
can
see
certain
commonalities
about
how
people
are
using
their
lives
and,
lastly,
people
will
make
mistakes
we
should
make.
Is
that
our
system,
when
people
make
mistakes?
Those
mistakes
are
not
fatal,
because
those
people
have
a
right
to
be
able
to
come
home
safely.
Q
Q
E
Q
30
years
from
1994
to
2014
miles,
traveled
increased
35%,
yet
traffic
fatalities
decreased
by
5%
countermeasures
are
worth
safety
belts
and
airbags,
DUI
checkpoints
and
laws,
red-light
cameras,
traffic
roundabouts
and
child
restraint
systems.
The
road
to
zero
will
accelerate
the
development
of
advanced
driver
assistance
systems
or
aid,
as
human
drivers
are
fallible.
Drivers
are
tired,
drivers
are
impaired,
drivers
are
distracted,
smart
machines
are
not
new,
ADA's
technology
is
being
added
to
new
cars.
Every
day
at
all
price
levels.
Q
Q
Q
E
P
You
can
see
if
the
national
law
there's
a
lot
going
on.
It's
not
just
about
how
we
build
the
road
ways,
but
also
working
with
those
partners
on
people
who,
how
you're
training
our
drivers,
how
we
respond
to
incidents.
You
know
how
the
technology
is
out
there,
and
so
it's
certainly
more
than
just
picking
out
a
few
intersections.
But
getting
is
all
the
work
together
across
these
many
disciplines
that
all
affect
Transportation,
Safety
and
so
jay
already
showed
you
some
of
this
information.
P
In
terms
of
why
we
need
vision,
zero,
you
can
see
in
the
texas
graph
we
were
kind
of
settling
going
down
for
a
while.
You
see
the
big
dip
around
the
Great
Recession
and
then,
as
the
Texas
economy
improved
that's
when
our
traffic
tell
has
also
started
going
back
up,
you
know
and
then
looking
at
web
County,
you
can
see
from
2010
on
sort
of
a
general
sort
of
gradual
increase
is
also
sort
of
mirroring
that
Texas
increase,
and
that
probably
reflects
the
recovering
economy
to
a
large
extent.
P
But
it
means
that
what
we're
doing
isn't
really
working
you
know.
So
if
we
really
believe
that
everyone
deserves
to
get
home
safely,
they
probably
need
to
do
something
more
than
what
we're
doing
right
now,
and
the
other
thing
we
should
also
note
is
that
in
Texas
someone
has
died
on
the
traffic
on
the
highways
every
day.
Is
that
the
remember
7
mm
at
18
years
or
there's
been
a
death
somewhere
in
the
state?
That's
a
sign,
we're
not
doing
things
right
things.
We
need
to
really
examine
what
we're
doing
in
traffic
safety.
P
So,
as
Jay
mentioned,
Austin
and
San
Antonio
have
adopted
a
vision,
zero
plan,
formerly
of
the
city
level,
and
we
have
the
Texas
Street
highway
safety
plan
that
does
have
a
five-year
goal
of
reducing
the
increase
and
then
for
a
long
term.
It
does
say
that
our
long
term
vision
is
that
zero
is
where
we
need
to
be.
There
are
seven
what
we
call
emphasis
areas
and
the
Texas
plan.
This
is
a
good
test
of
whether
you're
good
Melanie
will
know.
If
you
recognize
all
the
icons,
the
first
one
there
is
distracted
driving.
P
The
next
is
impaired
driving
drugs
and
alcohol,
but
the
third
one
is
probably
the
hardest
one
to
figure
out.
That
is
our
lane
departure
and
head-on
crashes
forth
and
speeding
v
as
pedestrians,
six
intersections
and
last
these
all
they're
run
by
users,
and
it's
important
worth
noting
here
at
the
MPO,
especially
that
the
MPO
is
plans.
When
you
discuss
a
key
the
MTO,
they
have
to
be
completely
consistent
with
this
breeding
highway
safety
plan,
and
so
that's
when
the
MPO
secretary
annual
fatality
rate
targets
and
we
do
long-range
plans
for
safety.
P
They
have
to
be
consistent
with
this
state
document
and
so
I
certainly
encourage
the
MPO
staff
and
others
to
get
involved
in
a
statewide
process.
We
can
go
to
the
go
to
the
shsp
website
and
get
involved
and
the
various
committees
that
are
going
on
and
so
principles
of
vision,
zero.
What
are
we
really
talking
about?
Obviously,
the
headline
is
that
traffic
deaths
and
severe
injuries
are
preventable.
P
We
really
need
to
prioritize.
The
protection
of
human
life
is
the
highest
priority
of
the
transportation
system
and
we
spent
the
first
part
of
this
meeting
hearing
about
a
project
where
you're
concerned
about
development.
That's
those
are
valid
concerns,
but
how
much
we
design?
What
we're
taking
to
talk
about?
Whether
people
are
moving
safely
in
their
communities?
Mm-Hmm
yeah.
D
J
P
You
know,
and
so
we
have
tools
and
techniques
about
how
we
can
make
those
concerns
equal
with
all
the
other
things
we're
trying
to
create
that
right
for
cash
system.
Mobility
is
important,
but
so
was
being
able
to
do
that
safely.
Mm-Hmm
and
again,
human
error
is
inevitable.
We
know
people
are
going
to
make
mistakes
while
driving.
You
know.
None
of
us
can
save.
You
have
perfect
drivers.
We
should
not
be
able
to
say
that
those
mistakes
deserve
to
be
failed.
P
One
of
the
ones
that
kind
of
a
bigger
change
is
the
idea
of
building
safe
systems,
and
so
we
know
that
our
attempts
to
influence
behavior
are
you
generally
not
that
effective,
especially
in
the
short
term.
You
know:
we've
had
a
drunk
driving
problem
for
as
long
as
we've
had
cars.
We've
had
problems,
people
speeding
for
as
long
as
there
have
been
cars,
we
can
do
things
that
make
the
system
safer
without
demanding,
perfect
drivers,
and
so
a
lot
of
it
is
being
forward
thinking
about
design
standards
and
policies.
D
P
And
so
again,
thinking
not
just
about
what
the
engineers
are
doing
or
what
the
planners
are
doing,
but
a
taking
really
a
public
health
approach,
making
sure
if
I
flick
health
involved
law
enforcement
involved
that
we're
getting
people
good
education
when
they
get
the
driver's
licenses
and
sort
of
linking
all
that
together.
So
vision.
Zero
is
really
about
being
very
comprehensive
and
multidisciplinary
about
how
we
approach
safety.
P
And
so
when
you
say,
you're
gonna
take
on
division
zero.
What
does
that
mean?
You're,
actually
gonna,
do
and
I'll
give
you
some
good
practical
examples
of
things.
People
are
doing
and
things
you
can
do
so
that
image
you
see
is
the
federal
highway
administration's
guidance
to
the
states
and
how
some
of
these
things
fit
together,
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
present
practices
are
on
the
logo
for
each
one
of
these.
P
Know
it
needs
to
be
someone
ideally,
who
can
actually
say?
Yes,
you
fire
department,
new
police
department
and
you
Sheriff's
Office,
and
you
public
health
and
new
engineers
have
to
sit
in
a
room
and
talk
together
a
lot
of
times.
We
have
our
day
jobs
and
we
get
involved
in
our
day
job
there,
not
a
lot
of
time
to
do
other
things.
You
know,
anytime,
you
put
a
police
officer
in
a
meeting.
P
That's
time
he's
not
pulling
over
drugs,
you
know,
so
this
is
about
taking
the
time
to
sort
of
arrange
the
sandbox,
and
you
never
want
to
play
together,
making
sure
that
we're
all
having
the
conversation,
then
we're
actually
doing
the
most
important
things,
the
agreeing
on
what
that
data
tells
us
to
do,
and
so
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
having
a
vision
here,
a
committee
that
is
absolutely
important.
It's
figuring
out.
Where
do
we
have
a
task
force
or
a
committee?
Who
does
that
report
to
what
are
they're
supposed
to
do?
P
You
know
so
one
of
the
things
we
ask
people
do
is
to
establish
what
emphasis
areas
to
decide
what
safety
issues
are
our
problem
in
your
community.
You
know
you
use
the
data
figure
out.
Is
it
drunk
Driving's
intersection
crisis?
The
pressure
in
crashes
figure
out
where
that
is
what
that
isn't
where
that
is,
they
start
developing
plans
towards
those
areas.
You
know
when
you
have
those
plans,
that's
where
that
committee
can
hold
people
on
better
doing
things,
those
plans
accountable
and
then
your
champion
gonna
hold.
P
Those
would
be
the
committee
accountable
for
making
sure
those
action
plans
are
moving
forward.
So
the
big
part
you
see
if
it
from
this
is
accountability
and
transparency.
This
is
something
you're,
seeing
a
lot
with
New
York,
with
Boston,
with
San
Francisco
with
Austin,
and
when
you've
got
those
action
behind
the
strategies,
you
should
make
sure
they're
actually
getting
worked
towards.
Here.
You
can
see
on
the
on
the
right
of
the
vision,
zero
report
card,
the
City
of
Austin.
P
Their
first
page
is
just
about
what
they've
done
that
past
year
and
the
second
page
is
about
the
safety
results,
and
so
you
can
see
all
these
things,
maybe
things
you're,
probably
already
doing
somewhere
in
the
counter
in
the
city
things
you
already
working
towards,
but
making
sure
they
commit.
You
know
they
participate
towards
reading
them.
Being
that
part
of
that
vision,
zero
goal,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
things
were
doing
that
are
good.
We
used
to
meet
the
checker
we're
doing
the
most
of
that.
We
can.
P
Nexus
be
data-driven
using
safety
data
to
figure
out
what
our
problem
is
again
is
intersections,
and
the
pest
greens
is
something
else
entirely
and
using
that
to
establish
where
we're
going
to
focus
on
you
know
we
don't
have
unlimited
funds,
no
one
to
do
as
much.
They
want
to
do
with
anything
and
me
just
being
able
to
say
this
is
the
most
important
problem
that
will
focus
on
that.
It's
very
important
and
it
brings
that
by
and
especially
when
you
talk
across
departments.
P
Certainly
at
the
city
level,
you're
gonna
have
someone
who
only
wants
more
enforcement
or
someone
who
only
wants
more
pedestrian
crossings,
but
you
need
to
have
that
sort
of
high
level
guidance
of
what's
most
important,
to
keep
everyone
focused
and
sort
of
control
that
sort
of
varying
priorities
across
people
are
working
on
it.
And
then
we
have
a
lot
of
information
about
what
actually
works
and
we
have
a
lot
of
evidence
on
research
in
terms
of
what
is
actually
best
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
and
again
the
safe
systems
approach.
P
Our
biggest
bang
for
the
buck
is
to
build
the
safe
system.
From
now
forward,
yeah,
we
we
can
ask
for
better
users,
but
we've
been
asking
for
better
smarter
rubber
users
for
a
long
time.
It's
obviously
not
getting
us
to
zero
the
way
we
want
to,
and
so
a
lot
of
times
people
say.
Well,
it's
safety,
we're
gonna,
have
crashes
you're
right,
we
will
have
crashes.
Our
goal
is
to
make
sure
they're
not
fatal
and
we're
also.
We
know
how
to
reduce
crashes.
P
So
I'm
a
civil
engineer,
highways
guy.
Some
of
the
things
that
are
pretty
simple
that
we
can
do
is
build
around
abouts
roundabouts
are
sometimes
a
four-letter
word
in
this
stage,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
they
are
safe.
They
reduce
fatal
crashes
by
up
to
80%.
You
know
so,
if
you're
thinking
about
building
your
signal,
you
should
be
thinking
about
why
a
roundabout
wouldn't
work
rather
than
saying.
P
Why
could
it
be
around
about
because
a
roundabout
will
be
a
saver
mm-hmm
same
thing,
with
pedestrian
hybrid
beacon
that
you're
familiar
with
those
that
allows
us
to
establish
a
pedestrian
crossing
using
a
lower
threshold
for
the
number
of
pedestrians
than
we
would
have
worked
I've
ever
seen?
Oh
and
usually
the
lower
cost,
and
the
last
thing
I'll
mention
road
guides.
Road
dates
are
also
somewhat
controversial.
P
Typically
we're
talking
about
taking
a
four
lane,
undivided
road
and
turning
to
a
three
lane
road
and
then
doing
something
else
like
bike
lanes
or
that
extra
space,
but
a
lot
of
times.
We
don't
actually
need
that
capacity
that
four
lane
road
and
we
know
that
the
four
lane
undivided
roads
had
the
highest
crash
rates
of
any
type
of
facility
we
build,
and
so
we
can
repurpose
that
space
and
something
that's
safer
anytime.
We
have
a
repaving
project.
Is
that
kind.
P
Yeah,
yes,
that's
ROI
diet,
and
so
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
parking.
It
could
be
giving
doesn't
assign
bike
lanes.
It
could
be
parking,
it
could
be
Islands.
It
could
be
any
number
of
things
depending
on
your
local
context,
but
if
you're
going
to
repair
the
road,
that's
not
per
to
need
to
think
about
what
the
best
use
of
that
space
is.
P
One
of
the
things
you're
seeing
really
emerging
on
the
national
level
is
speed
management.
There's
not
necessarily
just
speeding
hasn't
people
going
over
the
limit,
but
really
understanding
the
speed
people
choose
to
drive
at
and
what
sort
of
speeds
we
can
available.
We
enable
when
we
drop
designer,
as
you
can
see
here,
back
no
way
there
you
go
yeah
so
at
20
miles
per
hour,
a
pedestrian
person
walking
hit
by
car.
Ninety
percent
of
them
will
survive
at
40
miles
per
hour.
Ninety
percent
of
them
will
be
killed.
P
So
if
we're
trying
to
provide
for
safety
and
a
pleasant
environment
for
people
walking
people
biking,
we
need
to
think
about
what
sort
of
speed
we're
assuming
people
can
drive
on
that
street.
It's
thinking
very
critically
about
how
all
those
things
fit
together
and
so
thinking
about
lane
with
meeting
Islands
turn
lanes.
P
Do
we
know
if
people
can
walk
and
bike
to
that
facility
safely?
Is
there
access
for
a
bus?
Stop?
Is
it
the
driveway
actually
in
the
right
place
or
not?
You
know
having
more
thoughts
about
how
we
do
that
review
and
how
might
we
do
that
thought
and
again:
maintenance,
the
streets
anytime,
you're
out
there?
P
Looking
at
your
pavement,
it's
a
good
time
to
figure
out
whether
those
lanes
are
right,
whether
the
bike
lanes
are
right,
whether
the
signs
are
right
and
taking
that
time
as
we
do
the
day-to-day
activities
to
also
consider
the
safety
impacts
of
what
was
being
done
and
then
long-range
plans
understand
Campione
long-range
plan
city
of
Austin's.
First
adoption
of
vision,
zero
was
actually
in
their
City
long-range
plan
and
so
figuring
out.
D
P
It's
chicken
in
the
egg
I
think
it
depends
on
where
your
champions
are,
and
what's
your
to
get
done,
I
would
encourage
you
to
do
whatever
you
think
will
get
the
most
work
done.
I
think
there's
a
place
for
both
I.
Certainly
the
NPO
is
responsible
for
developing
a
long-range
plan.
That
looks
you
know
five
thirty
years
in
the
future,
that's
a
great
place
to
say
we
want
to
get
to
zero
and
that's
our
responsibility
for
developing
the
transportation
system.
P
At
the
same
time,
you
know
the
city
is
probably
responsible
for
most
of
the
permit
reviews,
land
development,
the
maintenance,
and
so
you
certainly
can
use
vision
zero
at
the
city
level.
Today
we're
going
to
incorporate
more
of
these
things
and
spend
more
time
talking
about
safety
in
our
day
to
day
activities,
and
so
it
kind
of
depends
on
where
your
champions
are
and
who's
most
supportive
and
where
you
go.
D
P
And
there's
certainly
a
lot
more
detail
being
talked
about
and
then
I'll
give
you
a
couple
of
links
here.
That
has
a
lot
more
information
on
a
lot
more
detail
and
I'm
certainly
available
to
talk
more
in
the
future.
About
this
again,
just
my
opinion.
Collaborative
approach
to
safety
is
key,
because
when
you
have
people
can
almost
do
my
engineering
or
my
enforcement
or
my
Public
Health,
making
sure
those
people
are
still
having
those
conversations
and
involved
together
making
sure
we're
doing
the
most
important
things
comprehensively,
not
just
with
our
silos.
P
So,
like
I
said
what
I
do
is
provide
resources
to
a
lot
of
different
things.
So
a
vision,
zero
network
is
a
nonprofit
group
that
it's
sort
of
running
technical
assistance,
a
lot
largely
to
cities.
I
wrote
a
zero
with
the
National
Coalition
from
the
National
Safety
Council
in
the
US
Department
of
Education
my
office.
P
So
I'm
looking
around
iteration
Texas
division,
so
I'm
located
in
Austin,
so
my
primary
job
is
to
work
with
text
on
the
Highway
Safety
Improvement
Program,
which
is
a
set
of
federal
funds
that
work
for
infrastructure
safety
improvements,
but
then
I
do
technical
assistance
and
things
like
this
across
the
state.
This
is
probably
at
the
time
I've
spoken
about
business
zero.
So.