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Description
Metropolitan Planning Organization Policy Committee Meeting 092122
A
Good
afternoon,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
thank
you
for
joining
us.
I'm
calling
this
meeting
to
order.
This
is
the
laredo
and
webb
county
mpo.
Meeting
metropolitan
planning
organization
today
is
september,
the
21st
2022
and
it's
1
31.
I
believe
1
31
pm
we're
meeting
here
at
the
city
of
laredo
council
chambers,
11th
and
houston
street.
Obviously,
here
in
laredo
texas,
you
can
join
us
at
laredo.
Tx.Swagged.Com,
forward,
live
and.
B
A
There's
a
motion
to
excuse
the
people,
not
president.
Is
there
a
second
second
seconded
by
commissioner,
a
discussion
just
not
heard
of
the
papers
yeah,
I
opposed
heard
not
seeing
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you.
I'm
moving
on
to
citizens
comments.
We
have
one
gentleman
signed
up
as
a
speaker
and
that's
jose
art
medina.
That's
where
you
have
three
minutes,
mr
maybe.
E
E
That
bubble
there
right.
Yes,
sir.
Thank
you.
I
have
no
idea
if
this
is
an
appropriate
time,
but
I
know
I
heard,
and
I
read
about
the
1.6
billion
dollars
of
the
state's
granting,
and
I
know
that
someone
is
going
to
be
useful
for
two
roads,
that
exit
from
mons
roads
toward
I-35
and
if
there's
any
opportunity
to
ever
discuss
the
riverbank
road,
which
is
a
great
necessity
for
people
who
live
in
la
vota.
And
of
course
we
have
land
next
to
it.
That
we
want
to
do
residential.
E
The
mayas
road
does
have
the
biggest
employer
is
the
local
biggest
employer
in
the
area.
Yet
the
people
who
live
in
there
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
live
there.
So
even
with
the
relief
of
these
future
roads,
you're
still
going
to
have
a
lot
of
tractor
trailers
on
the
maestro,
and
if
I
have
a
family
with
small
children,
they're
still
afraid
of
contractors.
E
Riverbank
relative
is
supposed
to
be
for
passenger
vehicles
only,
and
I'm
just
here
to
remind
you
that
all
if
there's
anything
that
the
mpo
can
do
to
maybe
get
you
know,
a
tiny
bit
of
money
out
of
the
1.6
will
be
a
drop
in
the
bucket.
I
think
the
real
bank
road
can
be
a
reality
and
that's
pretty
much
what
I
have
to
say
unless
you
have
any
questions.
Thank.
A
You
we
don't
have
an
agenda
item,
but
I
know
maybe
the
rna
agenda
may
lend
itself
when
the
gentleman
when
mr
brown
steps
up
and
if
he
has
any
questions
you
know,
maybe
we'll
call
you
up.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
record
and
commissioner
gonzalez
jessica
gonzalez
is
now
with
us.
A
I'm
moving
on
to
the
next
item
and
that's
the
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
held
on
august,
the
17th
there's
no
amendments:
okay,
there's
a
motion
seconded
by
council
members
discussion
not
heard
of
the
favorites
and
your
opponent.
I've
heard
nazi
motion
carries
b,
received
public
testimony
and
approved
resolution
number
npo,
20
2207,
adopting
the
updated
2022
public
participation
plan.
Yes,
mr
director.
F
Thank
you
mayor.
As
you
remember,
in
july,
we
had
a
presentation
on
the
updated
public
participation
plan.
We
opened
a
common
period
at
that
time.
We
did
not
receive
any
comments.
It
was
a
45
day
comment
public
review
period
now
we're
bringing
this
back
for
for
final
adoption.
We
just
need
to
receive
public
testimony
at
this
meeting
as
well.
A
A
A
Okay
seconded
by
tom
gale
commissioner
kelu,
and
keep
in
mind,
there's
there's
various
you
know
items
there
for
to
be
specific.
So
that's
that
motion
call
for
the
question.
All
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
not
heard
on
seeing
motion
carries
unanimously.
So
it's
a
ten-day
public
review
and
comment
period.
Do
we
have
anyone
here
to
comment
on
this
now
anyone
wishing
to
speak
four
or
against
four
against
four
against
and
we
still
have
an
additional
well,
you
know
ten
day
period.
F
We'll
bring
it
back
in
october
for
final,
so
we
can
include
them
in
the
mtp
and
the
tip.
So
just
these
are
the
projects
that
we're
adding
via
seo,
bringing
back
the
flicher
lane
in
las
closes
boulevard,
which
is
going
to
schedule
that
in
2023,
and
also
the
captain
road,
santa
maria
interchange,
for
that
railroad,
great
separation.
F
H
F
H
F
G
There's
still
some
warehouses
that
are
back
there.
We
have
several
several
areas
that
currently
are
active,
and
so
those
are
the
ones
we're
trying
to
address.
So
we
have
some
warehouses
in
the
area,
and
so
it's
not
necessarily
about
pushing
traffic
in
that
direction.
It's
about
alleviating
the
current
traffic
that
we
have.
I'm
saying,
though,.
G
H
I
There
was
a
time
when
it
was
going
to
you
were
going
to
have
a
carlton
road
go
west.
I
call
it
west
towards
the
river
and
then
curve
up
and
connect,
and
you
would
have
the
first
traffic
light
on
mines,
road,
where
the
pizza
hut
is.
You
know
where
the
pizza
hut
is
on
there
there's
road
they
were
gonna,
they
were
gonna
come
out
at
the
traffic
light,
come
down
to
35
in
fletcher.
I
Yeah,
that's
fletchell
and
everything
fletch.
I
am
thank
you
for
having
me
that
was.
That
was
the
the
design.
That
was
that
I
remember
that
was
going
to
come
around,
but
that
did
not
happen
a
lot
of
it
had
to
do
with
rerouting
of
traffic,
because
there
was
there's
less
traffic.
There
is
still
some
18.
We
are
traveling,
I'm
not
saying
there
isn't
there
is,
but
it
there
was
a
rerouting
and
so.
H
What
I'm
just
saying
so,
once
you
put
that
overpass
there
then
you're
going
to
get
that
traffic
probably
come
back
and
is
that
what
you
want
not
necessarily,
then
why
are
we
doing
the
project
if
it's
really
not
at
this
point,
20
years
later,
it's
really
not
beneficial.
I
don't
think
to
the
city
so
you're
going
to
spend
it
just
to
spend
it
because.
J
J
A
F
And
I
can
initially,
I
know
this
wasn't
an
item
that
was
brought
back.
That
was
asked
for
us
to
bring
it
to
the
policy
committee.
When
we're
having
the
discussion
about
yzo,
we
did
discuss
that.
There's
a
funding
gap
to
get
illness
started.
The
utp
did
allocate
some
money
for
that,
so
there's
still
a
gap
of
seven
million
and
there's
seven
million
30
287.
K
F
A
F
A
B
A
A
Rodriguez
was
also
has
had
some
money
if
there
was
a
gap,
he
was
willing
also,
to
put
that
you
know,
for
the
city
and
obviously
the
county.
It's
extremely
important
for
us
to
have
that
overpass
because
of
the
major
investments
we're
doing
there
by
the
sports
complex
in
that
area,
and
we
have
a
we
purchased
some
land
and
we're
yeah.
We
have
an
above
surface
water
tank
that
we'll
be
building
in
that
area
as
well.
So
you
know
for
economic
development
anyway,.
G
A
J
J
We
don't
need
any
right
of
way.
It's
already
inside
the
basically
the
envelope
that
we
cleared
an
issue.
We
have
to
go
through
the
regular
process,
but
it
shouldn't
take
long
since
it's
already
inside
the
footprint
that
we
cleared
some
while
back
when
we
built
that
road,
initially
so
yeah
the
project
will
n25
and
then
obviously
construction
time
frame
for
an
overpass
we'd,
probably
be
looking
somewhere
in
the
20
to
24
months
time
frame.
I
I
do
want
to
recommend
I'm
here
as
part
of
the
committee
mayor.
G
A
G
A
D
D
A
D
A
A
With
possible,
acting
on
submitting
a
planning
grant
application
for
the
us
department
of
transportation,
reconnecting
communities,
pilot
program
in
the
collaboration
with
the
downtown
tax,
increment
reinvestment
zone
charge
number
one
elevator
main
street
in
any
other
matters.
Incident
there
too,
mr
mandivi,
yes,
sir.
F
Thank
you
for
the
record
one
of
the
interim
npo
director.
Do
you
have
a
brief
presentation
just
to
go
over
this
grant?
This
is
an
opportunity
from
the
u.s
department
of
transportation
and
we
were
approached
by
the
downtown
tax
increment
reinvestment
zone.
Other
chairman,
mr
jose
sowells,
who
who's
here
today
and
laredo
main
street
they're,
looking
at
an
opportunity
to
apply
for
this
grant
to
get
some
dollars
for
downtown
right
now
as
an
mpo,
we're
eligible
to
apply
for
a
planning
grant,
not
a
capital
construction
grant.
F
But
let
me
go
through
the
details
of
this,
so
this
rcp
grand
program
just
a
reconnecting
community's
pilot,
it's
established
through
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law
and
it's
a
discretionary
grant
program.
What
this
funds
is.
You
know
reconnecting
communities
by
removing
retrofitting
or
mitigating
transportation,
facilities
that
create
barriers
to
community
connectivity,
mobility,
access
or
economic
development,
but
it
must
address
an
eligible
facility.
So
what
does
that
mean?
F
Eligible
facilities
are
defined
as
any
transportation
facility
that
creates
a
barrier
to
community
connectivity
due
to
high
speeds,
great
separations,
other
design
factors,
including
barriers
to
mobility,
access
or
economic
development.
So
this
includes
highways,
arterials,
rail
lines,
bridges
and
gas
pipelines
a
lot
of
what
we
have
in
our
downtown
area,
like
I
mentioned,
mpos,
are
eligible
for
planning
grants
this
time.
So
what
are
the
eligible
activities?
F
Public
engagement
activities,
including
visioning
or
other
place-based
strategies,
and
also
planning
studies
to
assess
the
feasibility
of
removing
retrofitting
or
mitigating
those
existing
facilities,
such
as
assessing
current
traffic
patterns?
The
capacity
of
existing
transportation
networks
to
maintain
mobility
needs
the
impact
on
mobility
of
freight
and
people
impact
on
safety.
F
Also,
environmental
public
health
community
impacts
just
to
name
a
few.
Some
project
examples
of
what
other
communities
are
doing:
roadway,
redesigns
and
complete
street
conversions,
main
street
revitalization,
pedestrian
walkways
and
overpasses
infrastructure,
removal,
high
quality,
public
transportation,
linear
parks
and
trails,
as
well
as
capping
and
lids.
F
So
the
merit
criteria
for
this
grant
they're
going
to
be
looking
at
equity,
environmental
justice,
community
engagement,
mobility
and
community
connectivity,
community-based
stewardship
management
and
partnerships.
So
you
know
that's
right.
We're
looking
at
this
partnership
with
the
terrorists,
the
downtown
turks
and
the
raid
on
main
street
equitable
development
and
shared
prosperity.
F
So
that's
just
something
where,
since
the
city
is
our
fiscal
agent,
we
use
their
guns
number.
So
we
would
need
them
to
submit
that
application
on
our
behalf,
but
we're
preparing
all
the
work
and
doing
all
the
entire
application
project
partners
will
provide
assistance
in
providing
relevant
background
information
and
data
to
support
the
application.
F
So
we're
looking
at
for
the
funding
request,
is
to
develop
a
downtown
mobility
and
connectivity
study
that
would
include
public
engagement,
identifying
existing
barriers
and
provide
project
recommendations
that
will
include
cost
estimates
and
assessment
of
impacts,
and
hopefully
this
will
help
enhance
connectivity
with
surrounding
neighborhoods,
expand
development
opportunities
and
we're
hoping
to
do
a
primary
objective
of
this
is
to
strategically
align
with
previous
downtown
studies
and
stakeholder
efforts.
You
know
there's
a
lot
going
on
to
try
to
revitalize
downtown.
There
are
several
studies
that
have
been
done.
F
The
proposed
study
will
help
identify
key
projects
that
can
be
submitted
for
an
rcp
grant
capital
construction
grant
in
the
future
round
of
funding.
As
I
mentioned
the
mpo,
since
we
don't
own
those
facilities,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
apply
for
a
capital
construction
grant,
but
the
city
the
county.
Someone
else
might
so.
This
is
kind
of
paving
the
way
for
that.
F
So
just
right
away.
Some
key
issues
that
we're
looking
at
in
this
study
and
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
in
our
proposal
that
we'll
be
submitting
is
the
importance
of
reconnecting
downtown
to
its
surrounding
neighborhoods
I-35
and
the
four
block
area
by
bridge
number.
Two.
Now
that's
been
talked
about
before,
so
how
do
we
create
a
redesign
there
that
is
safe
for
pedestrians
if
it
still
helps
you
know,
with
the
vehicle
traffic,
the
need
for
railroad
grade
separations
the
importance
of
enhancing
walkability
and
the
access
to
transit
connectivity
to
our
border
crossings?
F
Also,
as
you
know,
there's
an
aging
population
living
in
our
downtown
we're
getting
some
data
on
that
to
provide
the
application,
there's
also
new
senior
home
developments
that
the
city
has
has
promoted
here
in
the
city
that
they've
developed,
so
we're
seeing
an
increase
in
the
aging
population.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
streets
that
and
you
know,
provide
that
type
of
mobility
for
them.
Good
mobility.
F
Also,
if
our
downtown
revitalizes,
as
is
you
know,
planned
we're
hoping
for
future
population
increase
in
downtown.
So
we
need
to
accommodate
for
that
cost
of
utility
relocation.
We
know.
That's
an
issue
when
redesigning
streets,
so
we
need
to
consider
that
and
of
course
expanding
the
economic
development
opportunities.
So
our
request
today
is
just
that.
You
allow
us
to
move
forward
so.
B
F
So
we're
proposing,
since
we
use
federal
dollars,
we
can't
provide
that
match.
That's
why
we
need
to
work
with
our
partners.
The
tourists
has
discussed,
maybe
at
their
next
meeting.
They're
gonna
have,
I
think,
a
special
meeting,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
but
not
from
the
mpo.
No,
it's
not
coming
from
the
mpo
we're
actually
helping
write
the
grant.
F
Are
you
going
to
provide
in
kind
of
staff
time,
but
we
need
to
make
it.
I
need
to
ask
that
question
to
the
feds
just
to
make
sure
that
we
use
mpo
staff
time
since
we're
funded
with
federal
dollars,
but
this
grant
does
have
some
flexibility
on
the
matching.
So
there's
a
chance
that
we
could
use
some
of
our
staff
time.
F
This
is
focusing
specifically
on
mobility
right,
so
pedestrian
enhancements.
Do
we
need
a
pedestrian
overpass
somewhere,
maybe
by
the
four
blocks,
so
we
would
hope
to
provide
those
specific
project,
recommendations
and
some
cost
estimates
and
assessments,
but
an
important
part
of
this
is
opening
the
way
for
future
monies
through
that
capital
construction
grant
to
get
some
of
these
projects
constructed.
M
M
M
G
I
know
we
have
to
go
through
the
bureaucratic
steps
that
are
necessary
to
achieve
these
funds.
It's
just
that.
You
know
when
we
continue
to
duplicate
the
same
thing
over
and
over
again,
and
we
continue
to
spend
money
on
planning
and
we
don't
actually
do
anything
it
kind
of
it
makes
it
seem
as
though
we're
just
spinning
our
wheels,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
asking
I
know
there
is
redundancy
in
the
four
block
studies
that
we've
done
and
the
studies
of
downtown
that
we've
done.
G
So
this
is
a
step,
that's
necessary,
so
be
it
I
I
just
you
know.
Hopefully
we
get
something
out
of
it.
I
know
it's
not
coming
from
the
npo,
it's
just
that
the
city
has
been
missing
for
projects
in
downtown
and
for
really
you
know
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
investment
in
downtown,
especially
through
the
terrors,
for
quite
some
time
and
so
yeah.
M
F
Sir,
no
I'm
just
gonna
add
so,
for
example,
some
of
those
four
blocks,
I'm
not
sure
how
far
on
some
of
those
studies
are
a
component
of
this
for
the
capital
construction
grants
is
that
they
be
project
ready.
So
they
need
environmental
and
stuff
like
that.
So
this
will
kind
of
help
pave
the
way
towards
that
as
well,
and
I
guess
make
and
provide
some
cost
estimates
and
actual
you
know
which
projects
do
we
actually
need
and
what
prioritizes
the
project.
A
Systems
we're
talking
about
the
four
blocks
and
there's
been
a
question
raised
by
the
community
as
to
the
the
statute.
It's
coming
december,
right,
rosario
yeah,
so
it's
they're
putting
the
finishing
touches
on
thomas
sanchez
statute
and
we
should
have
it
by
december
january.
The
latest
then
anyway,.
F
We
still
refine
the
scope,
a
bit
prefer
the
grant
and
when
we
get
the
money,
hopefully
we
can
fine-tune
the
scope,
also
there's
specific
things
that
we
need
also
this
money
I
mentioned.
We
can
also
do
this
with
our
mpo
planning
funds,
but
by
getting
a
grant
for
this,
we
won't
have
to
use
our
mpo
planning
dollars
for
this.
F
F
Have
downtown,
and
specifically
you
know,
infrastructure
that
has
historically
created
barriers.
So
four
blocks
is
an
example:
I-35
right,
the
railroad,
the
railroad
is
especially
it's
a
good
opportunity
to
get.
Somebody
like
I
said
we
can
fine-tune
the
scope
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
being
redundant.
Okay,
anything
else.
A
That's
right,
yeah,
so
call
for
the
question
that
was
in
paper
said
all
right.
I
opposed
nonsense
unanimously.
Thank
you.
Let's
see,
discuss
that
gene
now
discussing
possible
action
on
exploring
the
feasibility
of
a
transportation
reinvestment
emotional
table
in
north
greater
webb
county,
including
along
fm
1472.
There's
a
motion
the
table.
Is
there
a
second?
Yes,
a
second
did.
I
call
for
the
question
all
those
in
paper
all
right
show
hands.
A
F
So
let
me
just
explain
right,
so
the
mayor
had
requested
this
item
to
be
put
sometime
back
in
july
and
at
that
time
we're
looking
to
see
if
the
city
and
the
county
wanted
to
participate
in
this
grc.
But
I
had
mentioned
at
that
time
that
the
taxing
entity
would
be
the
one
that
has
to
make
the
request
to
the
rma
if
they
want
to
partner
up
on
the
study
to
do
that.
Trc
study,
because
that's
not
something
that
we
do
right
now
that
we
can
use
for.
F
A
H
I
think
you
miss.
If
that's
the
case,
you
missed
the
biggest
problem
we
have
currently
today
is
people
trying
to
get
out
of
unitec,
and
so
I
know
there's
been
discussions
about.
You
know
there
was
a
trz.
You
know
proposed
there
at
one
time,
but
it
didn't
include
all
the
way
up
to
the
charles
ruthenger
bridge,
the
overpass.
G
Right
now,
commissioner,
I
completely
agree
with
you.
We
we've
we're
with
you
on
that,
and
we've
brought
some
some
things
to
the
table
that
might
have
helped
with
that.
Those
haven't
really
helped
and
we
haven't
been
able
to
get
to
that
to
that
point.
But
if
you
want
to
include
that,
we
would
have
to
go
back
to
council,
because
I
I
did
want
to
do
a
trz
on
the
on
the
east
side
of
I-35.
Simply
because
unitec
has
a
big
problem.
H
G
G
D
F
After
they
re-addressed
it,
I
was
just
doing
initiate
the
discussions
about
it
and
because
of
that,
I
think
then
it
went
to
council
but,
like
I
had
mentioned
before,
as
an
npo,
we're
not
the
one
that
makes
a
determination
to
establish
a
trc.
So
I
just
mentioned
a
texan
entity:
that's
interested
in
doing
that.
It's
their
responsibility
right
to
ask
the
army
they
want
to
pursue.
With
that
study,.
G
And
just
mission
just
for
those,
so
so
the
county
is
aware,
we
did
take
action
and-
and
we
wanted
to
get
your
your
feedback
on
it,
which
is
why
we
wanted
to
bring
it
to
you
guys.
That's
why
we
wanted
to
communicate
with
you
and
let
you
know,
but
you
bring
up
a
great
point,
commissioner:
gale.
That's
the
area
that
we're
struggling
with
the
most,
and
so
if
we
can
include
that.
Well,
those
two
areas,
mine's
road,
along
with
unitec
and.
A
H
You
got
to
remember
because
this
is
my
biggest
opposition
to
the
trzs.
Is
it
handicaps
you,
and
especially
now
that
sb2s
passed
those
tax
dollars
are
already
committed?
So
if
you
have
a
cap
of
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
or
whatever
you
know,
a
three
and
a
half
percent,
those
pizzas
are
already
ex
taken
out
before
so
now,
maybe
you're
only
getting
two
and
a
half
percent
or
two
percent
to
three
percent
whatever
it
may
be.
So
you
have
to
be
very
careful
with
these
in
the
future.
A
G
And
so
what
we're
hoping
to
achieve
is
that
as
to
your
point
as
shovel
ready
projects
are
starting
to
come
to
fruition,
because
we're
going
to
need
parallels,
because
the
growth
continues
in
that
area,
that
we
have
some
source
of
funding,
that
we
can
then
use
for
this
specific
industries
and-
and
if
I'm
making
sure
and
to
your
point
of
right
now,
we
have
to
be
careful.
This
is
why
the
study
is
so
important.
G
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
looking
at
best
practices
of
how
how
to
properly
use
these
because
we're
in
a
new
territory
right
now,
we've
never
had
this
three
point:
3.5
percent
roll
back,
we
don't
know
best
practices
when
it
comes
to
how
to
use
utilize
terses
trees.
In
relation
to
this
out
of
alarm
tax
cap
that
we
have
now,
and
so
that's
why
I
think
we
need
to
go
through
the
process
of
trying
to
analyze
it
and
have
some
experts
tell
us
what
we're
supposed
to
do
well,
I
agree.
H
A
H
D
A
Yeah,
okay,
yeah,
we'll
bring
it
anyway,
just
your
next
meeting.
Okay,
but
then
we'll
have
some
some
decisions
for
the
council,
so
age
and
discussion
of
possible
action
on
el
metro's
request
to
terminate
the
advanced
funding
agreements
for
the
ada
bus
stops
and
bicycle
plaza
projects,
and
that's
a
csj0922
hyphen
33
hyphen
181
after
you
find
0
9,
22,
133
hyphen.
O
O
The
project
consisted
of
26
bus
stops
and
an
amount
of
30
thousand
dollars
in
federal
money.
However,
this
was
construction
money,
but
did
not
include
engineering
and
design,
and
when
we
did
our
req,
the
engineering
designs
were
extremely
high
and
we're
not
unable
to
negotiate
a
contract.
So
at
this
time
it
is
in
the
best
of
the
metro
and
to
go
ahead
and
cancel.
The
contracts
show
moved
and
return
the
money.
F
A
A
F
F
I
can
give
a
quick
overview
about
this,
but
if
you
want
to
just
highlight
the
major
things,
remember
because
ta
funds,
again
mpo,
are
able
to
select
projects
for
transportation,
alternatives
things
such
as
bike
lanes
right,
sidewalks,
bus
shelters,
as
we
just
mentioned
so
some
knowledgeable
projects,
for
example,
are
you
know
the
safe
routes
to
schools,
planning
designing,
constructing
boulevards
transportation?
Alternatives
like
I
mentioned
bike
lanes
again,
this
ta
set
aside
is
not
a
grant.
F
The
tsa
satisfied
funds
are
available
for
obligation
for
three
years,
but
once
they're
awarded
have
three
years
to
get
the
project
off
the
ground,
so
the
funding
availability
that
we
had
proposed
was
2.1
million
the
2
143
500.
If
we
add
the
300
000
from
el
metro
that
money,
they
just
returned,
that
would
be
2
million
400
500.
So
we're
asking
this
committee
to
approve
this
call
for
projects
with
that
added
funds.
A
F
F
There
monies
that
come
to
the
mpos
and
it's
a
federal
requirement
that
we,
you
know,
be
programming
monies
towards
this.
So
it's
a
set
aside
from
the
surface
transportation
block
grant
for
these
type
of
projects.
So
we
have
to
do
a
call
for
projects
to
award
that
so
so
they're
specific
to
these,
we
really
can't
use
them.
F
H
F
So
the
people,
the
eligible
entities
are,
for
example,
the
city,
the
county
school
districts.
So
it
depends
what
projects
they
submit.
We're
going
to
see
that
we're
going
to
have
an
evaluation
committee
and
bring
back
that
to
you
at
the
end.
This
committee
selects
those
projects
and
decides
how
much
funding
to
provide
okay.
F
G
A
J
A
L
Sure
not
like,
like
you'll,
know
this
routine.
Here,
it's
the
intern
design
is
a
free
one
right.
We're
leaving
enough
right
away
with
to
fit
in
a
freeway,
but
right
now,
what's
being
constructed,
are
the
the
frontage,
the
frontage
rooms
both
right?
Yes,
maybe
two
sides
on
both
sides,
two
lanes
in
each
direction
and
then.
A
L
L
B
H
L
B
P
Broke:
okay,
maybe
that
jumped
melissa,
tony
lexita
from
hmtv
we
had
a
jed
round
for
the
record
mayor
members
of
the
mpo.
We
we
had
a
board
meeting
this
morning,
so
we
covered
a
lot
of
the
ground
and
we
had
updates
on
everything
that
you
see
in
your
agenda
packet.
I
would
like
to
comment
on
something
that
mr
gallo
and
dr
martinez
said.
P
I
believe
we
should
be
done
with
the
south
laredo
trz
study,
which
we
had
a
presentation
on
earlier
today
was
very
informative
and-
and
I
considered
it
very
educational
because
I'm
still
learning
about
trzs,
but
that's
something
that
could
be
done
at
the
council
level
or
here
at
the
mpo
if
y'all
choose.
So
I
wanted
to
point
that
out-
and
you
know
as
far
as
river
road
corridor
study,
it
does
kind
of
dovetail
into
that
north
right
of
trz.
P
H
P
P
Q
H
P
I
I
again
and
let
me
thank
all
of
y'all
for
what
you
did
at
the
last
npl
meeting.
That
was
enormous.
The
you
made
the
motion
you
made
the
second
I'll,
never
forget
that.
I
appreciate
it
you're
the
one
that
made
the
motion
a
few
years
ago
to
make
it
the
number
one
unfunded
project.
Those
are
things
I
don't
personally
forget.
I
appreciate
what
the
mpo
has
done
for
viaceo.
So
thank
you
all
very
much.
Okay.
So
now.
P
We
have
eight
of
them
that
we're
working
on
right
now,
that's
on
the
in
your
packet
that
we're
working
on
that.
That
was
the
one
that
has
the
biggest
dollar
amount,
but
we're
real
active
on
stuff
and
we're
looking
at
more
projects
to
take
on
we're.
Looking
to
help
the
city
where
they've
asked
us
to
help
with
concord
hills
which
complements
the
los
presidentes
project.
You
know
we
could
get
involved,
as
you
mentioned
earlier,
possibly
with
the
lomas
del
sol
overpass,
somehow
some
way
we're
always
looking
for
I'd
like
you
to
look.
P
That
we
had
a
really
good
presentation
by
tito
and
roberto
this
morning
at
our
board
meeting,
because
that's
something
that
I
know
it's
been
discussed
a
bunch
in
public,
but
that's
not
something.
We
as
an
rma
have
actively
looked
at.
That's
an
area
that
that
does
need
help
just
as
much
as
the
mines
road.
It's
probably
taking
that
all
the
way
to
mcpherson
well,
mcpherson,
something
that
that
are
you
talking
about
going
north
or
well.
P
All
the
way,
until
that's
that's
something
that
was
discussed
if
you're
talking
about
north
of
unitech,
the
industrial
park
and
north
of
majestic
and
then
possibly
going
to
the
north
and
tying
to
where
charlotte
offinger
would
come
out
that
whole
area
is
primed
for
somebody
to
develop
at
some
point
for
that
road
to
go
through.
That
would
be
a
big
relief
route
if
it
could
be
constructed
to
get
around
to
to
the
atar
ruthengir
overpass
and.
P
K
I
have
another,
I'm
sorry,
there's
a
another
section
in
south
l'oreal.
That
definitely
needs
help
mayor,
and
I
know
we're
gonna
have
a
change
in
council
this
november,
but
there's
an
area
there's
four
schools
that
are
close,
five
schools
that
are
clustered
together
and
there's
a
hill
that
takes
you
all
the
way
to
the
end
of
the
of
these
cluster
of
schools.
K
K
Expansion
as
far
as
whining
because,
like
I
said
you
have
a
high
school
lbj,
you
have
veterans
memorial,
you
have
lamar
beauty,
vergara,
and
then
you
have
the
9th
grade
campus
and
the
hilo
feeds
all
those
four
schools
and
that's
a
major
traffic
jam.
Every
morning
every
afternoon
room
there
is
room
because
there's
to
the
east
of
it,
it's
all
brush,
it's
all
land
raw
land
and
it's
probably
chandler's.
I
think
he
has
all
their
land.
So.
A
A
You
know
I
want
to
consider
the
tiers.
You
know
these
tiers.
These
have
used
properly
like,
like
the
commissioner
gala
stated
that
you
can
import
you
that
shove
already
planning,
and
this
is
where
they
all
come
in,
and
I
won't
forget
your
statements
early
november
when
the
rma
started
about
eight
and
nine
years
ago.
You
know
we
just
couldn't
find
how
best
to
to
work
with
you
all
and,
and
commissioner
gaylord.
I
remember
because
I
was
brand
new
at
this
and
he
says
you
know
you
all
need
to
create.
G
Commissioner,
at
the
last
meeting
I
brought
a
project
to
extend
to
start
thinking
about
extending
mcpherson,
international,
north
and
and
especially
right
off,
of
where
united
high
school
high
school
is
and
basically
there's
a
road
that
connects
out
to
out
third
I-35.
And
so
I
brought
that
with
the
goal
of
eventually
going
north
now,
it
would
have
to
take
like
a
little
detour
around.
G
We
already
see
it
from
unitec,
but
we
see
it
a
lot
on
mines
road
also
and
if
we
don't
properly
masturbate
in
this
section
now
from
here
to
the
next
50
years,
we're
going
to
get
in
the
same
situation
and
so
everything
that
you're
saying
at
iaco
and
it's
just
hopefully
we
can.
We
can
have
some
of
these
monies
available
to
start
doing
some
of
those
projects,
because
if
not,
then
we
will
be
exactly
where
we
were
with
mines,
road
for
the
last
10
years.
P
Q
Q
We've
already
started
identifying
environmental
constraints,
we
have
a
methodology
and
the
methodology
is
basically
a
three-step
method
that
we're
going
to
identify
existing
information.
So
as
as
you
mentioned,
sir,
you
know
you've
done
some
work
early
on
we're
going
to
recycle
that
information,
and
you
know
we're-
definitely
not
going
to
throw
it
away.
Q
Of
course,
safety
is
always
number
one
we're
starting
in
october
with
our
stakeholder
meetings
we'll
have
stakeholder
meetings
here
in
laredo
as
early
as
october,
19th
and
20th,
I
will
be
meeting
with
you
elected
officials,
city
officials,
county
officials
and,
of
course,
the
citizens
of
the
area.
So,
looking
forward
to
that,
we
anticipate
the
study
will
be
finished
by
next
august.
So
it's
a
12
month
very,
very
quick
study,
but
we
will
come
up
with
a
preferred
alternative.
That
alternative
will
then
be
available
for
further
schematic
development
and
psne.
So
yeah.
Q
Right,
there's
various
landowners
along
the
alignments.
Of
course,
the
stakeholder
coordination
that
we're
going
to
be
conducting
will
take
into
account
the
input
you
know.
In
my
experience
in
transportation
for
the
last
32
years,
the
locals
know
best
what
the
impacts
are
of
the
alignment.
So
we're
going
to
gather
that
information.
You
know
what's
out
there,
you
know
there's
any
constraints
to
either
the
natural
environment
or
the
human
environment.
We're
going
to
take
all
that
into
account.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
medina
you're.
Okay
with
that,
okay,
thank
you
anything
else
and
they're
not
moving
on.
Thank
you
very
much
all
right
man,
that's
the
presentation
by
wood
county
engineering.
I
propose
strategy
to
accelerate
the
construction
of
the
outer
loop
segments,
one
two
and
three
by
leveraging
local
funds
and
category
7
funds,
and
it's
really
the
the
extension
of
loop,
20,
correct.
B
A
R
Mr
chairperson
committee
member
interlude,
luis
peters,
garcia,
webb
county
engineer,
we
have
some
schematics
that
we
can
show
that
will
delineate
exactly
what
we're
talking
about.
My
purpose
here
is
to
introduce
mr
anthony
garza,
who
is
working
with
webb
county
and
he's
the
one
to
put
this
presentation
together,
and
he
can
answer
the
questions
that
you
might
have.
So
my
in
my
my
purpose
was
only
to
introduce.
S
Absolutely
for
the
record
anthony
got
us
on
behalf
of
webb
county,
so
the
concept
and
I'll
be
brief.
While
we're
here
is
in
discussions
with
the
county,
there's
lots
of
transportation
need
in
laredo
and
there's
lots
of
people
working
on
different
projects.
There's
a
lot
of
focus
on
the
north
with
viaceos
and
a
char
i35
has
a
ton
of
money
and
that's
great
and
textiles.
Textiles
going
on
that
loop
20
has
a
lot
of
development
going
on
and
there
it's
fully
funded
for
construction
of
all
the
overpasses.
S
This
utp
added
281
million
dollars
to
59
to
the
west,
so
that
you
know
in
looking
up
the
county.
You
get
the
best
bang
for
the
buck
on
leveraging
local
dollars
to
get
money
back
from
the
mpo
text
out
in
various
entities
we
identified,
we
started
looking
at
the
outer
loop,
which
you
call
it
the
outer
loop
but
segments.
S
S
Here
so
here's
here's
luke
20,
where
it
terminates
on
my
ghana,
hinds,
okay,
so
segment
three
is,
and
these
are
just
temporary,
not
temporary.
They
are
preliminary
alignments
done
by
tech.
Stop.
This
is
exhibits
taken
from
a
tex
dot
study,
so
it
extends
south,
goes
to
the
eventual
connection
to
359
and
then
goes
west
to
83
and
then
continues
west
to
the
border.
S
So
the
you
know
this
is
going
to
be
eventually
an
expressway
facility
like
luke
20,
was
planned
to
be
so.
Txdot
has
an
eventual
six-lane
expressway
facility
with
two
lane
frontage
roads
with
a
pre
that
they're
gonna
do
four
lane
expressways
facility
with
two
lane
frontage
roads,
but
to
make
it
affordable
and
be
able
to
environmentally
create
an
entire
footprint
is
a
similar
strategy
that
was
used
on
a
char.
S
B
A
S
S
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
so
next
slide
is
just
to
pass
through
the
utp.
So
right
now
the
project
doesn't
even
have
plan
authority.
It's
at
a
study
level,
so
this
would
put
us
in
develop
authority
which
would
allow
txdot
to
review
everything.
So
the
outcomes
for
the
county
doing
this
type
of
work
would
mean
that
35
million
in
category
7
funds
at
the
mpo
could
leverage
about
200
to
300
million
dollars
in
future
txdot
funding
by
placing
that
400
feet
of
right-of-way
in
place.
S
So
we
talk
about
all
these
challenges
here
that
we're
dealing
with,
and
this
is
kind
of
getting
ahead
of
the
curve
and
making
sure
to
put
this
in
because
at
that
point
the
asks
for
funding
become
very
easy,
because
the
right-of-way
is
in
place.
The
environmental
is
done
and
all
that
so
we're
just
looking
to
try
and
get
the
best
deal
for
the
county
bank
for
the
buck.
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
text
out
for
any
comments.
S
It
at
this
point
you
know:
once
you
get
into
the
schematic
and
environmental
phase,
there
has
to
be
an
alternative
analysis,
full
study
and
everything.
So
that
discussion
doesn't
even
happen.
You
really
can't
even
discuss
donating
right
away
until
you
know
you
have
to
do
an
appraisal
if
they
want
to
after
the
fact
so
that
that
could
happen
in
the
future,
and
that
would
be
great,
but
that's
something
that
I
couldn't
answer
with
any
definitive
answer
at
this
point,
but.
S
J
D
G
Yeah,
hello,
if
I
may-
yes,
I
I
you
guys
have
programmed
in
the
next
five
years
to
be
able
to
start
doing
these
shovel
ready
projects
with
commissioner
gala.
You
spoke
about
the
great
need
at
the
unitec
area,
and
I
like
this
project,
but
have
you
looked
at
that
area
programming?
Some
of
these
funds
to
have
shovel
ready
projects
specifically
for
an
area
that
we
already
know
has
a
significant
amount
of
traffic,
because
I
mean
I
know
that
we.
G
You
have
money
and,
and
that
area
is
currently
in
dire,
need
in
dire
need
of
exactly
what
you're
doing
here
in
the
south.
If
I
may
yes,
could
you
give
me
one?
Second,
the
reason
why
I'm
saying
is
because
this
is
something
that
I
think
the
city
and
the
county
could
partner
in
right
quickly
to
solve
an
issue
that
we
currently
have.
G
Because
but
you
because
when
you
look
at
the
outer
loop
and
you're
talking
about
starting
from
the
south,
I
mean
our
active
problems
on
the
north.
You
could
start
on
the
north
exactly
what
you're
doing
in
the
south.
You
could
start
on
the
north
section
and
solve
our
issues
that
we're
facing
right
now,
both
on.
H
J
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
on
the
funding
I
think
juan.
I
think
you
had
a
table
earlier
that
kind
of
broke
down
the
allocations
that
we
have
each
year
remaining.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
right
now,
we're
in
the
2023
utp.
So
it's
a
10-year
program
right,
so
we
have
funds
from
23
all
the
way
to
2032.,
based
on
the
action
that
we
took
earlier.
J
J
A
H
H
G
H
G
There's
no
reason
why
and
to
your
point:
there's
no
reason
why
we
can't
go
north
from
that
section.
In
other
words,
if
you're
wanting
to
connect
359
to
59,
you
can
just
go
north
and
kind
of
around
to
the
north
and
to
connect
to
I-35,
because
that's
our
problem
area,
we
don't
have
the
heavy,
I'm
sorry.
So
the
connection
there
is.
G
G
F
Okay
mayor,
if
I
may
add
a
few
things
so,
as
I
mentioned
before,
the
mpo
wants
to
help.
You
know
considerate
these
projects
so
and
right
now,
they'll
address
in
their
presentation,
but
some
of
these
segments
are
outside
the
mpo
boundary.
So
that's
something
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
separately
is
extending
that
mpo
boundary
to
be
able
to
bring
those
projects
to
be
able
to
fund
them
with
cats
11
dollars
right
now.
F
What
we
could
start
funding
is
that
extension
from
cuatro
vientos,
which
the
policy
committee
has
prioritized
before,
so
we
can
start
looking
at
that.
Also
another
request
that
was
put
into
text.
about
doing
this
so
right
now,
as
my
understanding
is
texas
project
sponsor
for
the
outer
loop.
So
as
long
as
there's
something
in
writing
between
texas
and
the
county
that
you
know
this
is
moving
forward,
I
mean
we
can
start
looking
at
that
and
and
also
looking
at
those
boundary
extensions
for
that
boundary.
F
S
I
see
that
graphic
again,
though
yeah,
so
there
are
some
procedural
steps
that
need
to
happen
to
move
this
forward
and
that's
the
whole
thing.
But
the
reason
that
I
recommended
this
project
to
the
county
is
because
this
is
the
most
amount
of
money
they
can
get
back
for
their
dollar
the
highest
leverage,
instead
of
spending
5
million
to
get
10
million.
This
is
depending
what
they
spend
to
get
250
personally.
A
Speaking
yeah,
I
like
the
project,
but
I
know
it
connects
to
that
4-5
bridge
and
I
know
that
4-5
bridge
is
really
advancing.
My
understanding
is
that
the
mexican
government
has
has
actually
granted
the
mexican
permit.
That's
where
they
want
the
bridge.
I
know
the
on
the
u.s
side.
I
think
the
landowner
submitted
that
that
permit
for
the
4-5
to
to
washington
and
apparently
the
white
house
is
holding
that
permit
plus
other
permits
throughout
the
entire
southwestern
border,
and
so
so
it's
it's
it's
moving.
A
It's
coming
and,
and
that
leads
me
to
the
question
too.
I
know
we've
had
a
revolving
door
with
managers
and
we
haven't
hadn't
really
had
a
chance
to
to
sit
down
to
visit
with
the
county
and
with
the
landlord
around.
But
one
suggestion
that
I've
heard
at
least,
is
that
we
need
to
enter
into
this.
You
know
an
mou,
so
both
the
county
and
the
city
and
the
landowner
can
can
visualize.
A
We
can
all
know
what
what
part,
what
participation
we
will
all
have
regarding
the
infrastructure
plus
you
know
the
bridge
operation
and
ownership,
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
I
would
ask
also
that
maybe
the
landowner
in
particular,
because
he's
he's
the
one
that
that
is
basically
in
control
at
this
point,
to
submit
something
to
the
city
to
our
city
manager,
so
we
can
start
evaluating
as
a
council.
A
S
Back
and
looking
at
this
from
purely
a
txdot
nepa
environmental
perspective,
what
this
would
allow
is
the
environmental
clearance
to
happen
on
this
and
the
right
way
to
be
put
in
place
and
the
way
the
funding
is
structured,
2-3
is
prioritized.
The
loop
28
extension
would
be
prioritized
for
construction
years
in
advance
of
one.
So
worst-case
scenario-
and
this
is
just
saying
it
out
loud-
let's
say
the
bridge-
never
happens.
You
end
up
with
the
right
of
way
in
place,
and
you
end
up
with
two
three
constructed.
S
A
S
A
R
J
No,
I
think,
we're
on
board.
I
think
you
just
echoed
that
the
center
extension,
I
think,
was
one
of
the
priorities
right
then,
when
we
looked
at
the
the
ipo,
so
obviously
that's
an
important
part.
I
mean,
like
always,
tech
side
is
always
excited
to
see
partnering
with
local.
You
know
county
city
and
prmas.
J
As
far
as
the
time
constraints
are
concerned
right,
we
will
save
us
some
time.
You
know
we
do
if
we,
if
the
mpo
does
decide
that
that's
where
you
want
to
allocate
their
cat
seven
monies
you
were
talking
about.
You
know
psne.
Once
we
allocate
any
kind
of
funds
and
we
get
that
development
authority
that
he
mentioned.
J
We
actually
can
start
spending
money
also
on
schematic
psn,
all
that
stuff
right.
Those
are
kind
of
the
hidden
costs
that
the
city,
the
county.
No
one
sees
that
right.
We
flip
the
bill.
For
that
I
mean
and
rightfully
so
cause
it's
our
own
system,
railways
right,
but
those
are
monies
that
we
have
to
spend
also
to
develop
that
we
can
start
spending
once
there
are
those
dollars
that
are
spent
on
the
rules.
So
that's
another
option
as
well
and
I'm
sure
at
that
point
whoever
decides
to
to
do
that
design.
S
It
does
serve
the
potential
to
free
up
text.
resources
to
allow
txdot
to
use
what
they
have
available
to
continue
work
on
the
remainder
of
the
loop
and
get
even
more
done,
even
if
it
starts
on
the
north.
So
it
all
works
together
and
all
of
the
design
takes
into
consideration.
The
remainder
of
the
loop.
J
That
the
whole
strand,
just
so
everybody
knows,
is
a
44
mile
outer
loop.
The
outer
loop
is
44
miles.
That's
connecting
at
255
is
what
he
showed
all
the
way
down
to.
We
have
the
the
connection
to
83
and
then
the
you
know
the
potential
future
bridge
for
five,
where
it's
at
that
that's
a
44
month
stretch
so.
J
Is
outer
loop
that
that
picture
that
he
showed
is
that
little
dual
designation,
where
you
want
to
put
the
map
right
there,
yeah,
where
you
see
that
little
y
interchange
occur.
That
is
basically
like
a
dual
designated
area
right,
because
at
that
point
the
outer
loop
and
the
inner
loop
right
are
they
kind
of
tie
into
each
other
yeah.
J
B
A
F
Thank
you,
mayor
I'll,
be
brief.
It's
been
a
long
meeting
on
september,
7th
the
mpo
staff
attended
training
at
the
radio
texas
district
office
to
learn
more
about
decision-maker,
software
that
helps
with
managing
project
data,
prioritizing
scoring
projects
conducting
what-if
scenarios
and
program
budgets
to
facilitate
data-driven
decision-making.
So
we
thank
txdot
for
coordinating
that
steph
is
developing
rfps
for
the
2025-2050
mtp
update
the
long-range
freight
mobility
plan
and
also
for
general
planning
services
and
on-call
technical
assistance.
All
these
were
programmed
in
our
2023,
unified
planning,
work
program
and
our
upcoming
meetings.