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From YouTube: Laredo and Webb County Metropolitan Planning Organization Policy Committee Meeting, 05/17/2021
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Laredo and Webb County Metropolitan Planning Organization Policy Committee Meeting, 05/17/2021
A
Good
afternoon,
everyone
thank
you
for
joining
us,
I'm
pete
science,
meredith
city,
laredo
and
chair
of
the
npo
policy
committee
meeting.
I'm
calling
this
meeting
to
order
today
is
may
17th
at
2021
and
it's
1
30
p.m
and
we're
meeting
virtually
you
can
join
us.
The
meeting
link
is
laredo.
A
Tx.Swagit.Com
forward,
live,
and,
and
also
through
these
public
access
channel,
which
is
spectrum
tv
channel,
1300.
C
To
mayor
good
afternoon,
everyone,
honorable
donald.
D
Honorable
john
gaylo.
B
A
Okay,
so
we
have
all
the
members
present.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
and
obviously
we
do
have
a
quorum
moving
forward
to
item
three,
which
is
citizens,
comments.
Anyone
willing
or
wishing
to
to
make
a
comment.
You
can
call
it
956-794-1623
and
we
can
take
your
comment,
questions
or
concerns
and
yeah
do
we
have
anyone
that
has
called
in
or
at
least
asked
that
they
would
want
to
speak
as
far
as
we
know,.
F
Mayor,
no,
we
don't.
But
if
you
recall
there
is
a
lag
of
about
two
to
three
minutes
between
what
is
happening
here
and
what's
displayed
on
our
swag
spectrum
channel
1300.
So
we
can
just
give
it
a
few
minutes,
not
just
a
couple
minutes
and
while
we're
doing
that,
if
I
can
remind
everybody
to
please
keep
their
mics
muted
just
so
that
we
get
the
best
audio
quality
for
the
public
and
as
well
for
each
other.
Even
if
you
can't
hear
it,
you
sometimes
create
feedback
for
the
other
viewers.
F
And
if
I,
if
I
see
you
I'm
muted,
I
may
mute
you.
I
don't
mean
that
to
be
rude,
just
to
again
make
sure
we
have
the
best
audio
quality.
And
but
please
don't
let
that
stop
you
from
making
any
comments
and.
A
Good.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
seidman.
Moving
forward
on
on
to
item
roman
numeral,
four
and
that's
items
recurring
policy
committee,
action
and
4a
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
virtual
meeting
held
on
april
19th
2021..
Nothing.
A
There's
a
motion
by
dr
martin
martinez:
is
there
a
second
second
by
council
member
gutierrez
discussion
not
heard
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
any
opposed
same
sign
or
lift
your
hands
not
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you
item
b,
a
discussion
with
possible
action
on
a
letter
of
support
requested
by
webb
county
for
a
grant
application
to
the
texas
department
of
transportation,
transportation,
alternative
set-aside
program
2021
for
the
improvements
of
sidewalks
in.
A
Texas
there's
a
motion
by
dr
martin
martinez.
Is
there
a
second
second
mayor
by
commissioner
gonzalez
jesse
gonzalez
discussion
and
the
the
financing
would
come
out
of
where
mr
snyder.
F
F
A
Oh
yeah,
I
hope
so
too
yeah
call
for
the
question.
Then
all
those
things
ever
say
hi
in
the
opposite,
opposed
not
heard
and
unseen
by
showing
hand,
so
a
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you
c
is
discussion
of
the
possible
action
on
the
achar
rooting,
your
road
project.
Do
we
have
normally
the
county?
Excuse
me
yeah.
A
H
Afternoon
mayor,
this
is
guillermo
coya
from
webb
county
engineering.
Just
as
a
follow-up,
we
have
submitted
dgn
files
and
other
types
of
files
to
text
off
for
their
review.
Regarding
the
project.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
think
the
last
conversation
we
had
was
that
text
type
was
going
to
visit
with
the
county
on
on
on
on
this
matter
of
of
the
financing.
A
I
don't
know
whether
there's
a
timeline
for
that
or
whether
you
all
did
meet,
and
mr
salazar
or
judge
or
whoever
and
if
you'll
need
more
time.
Obviously
it's
you
know
whatever
you
know.
B
Mayor
this
is
david
salazar
and
mr
gonzalez
I'll
speak
here
briefly.
He's
been
kind
of
spearheading
this
operation
for
us
here
at
txdot.
B
The
main
part
right
now
was
to
get
going
on
his
set
of
plans,
so
we
can
get
the
agreements
in
place
and
proceed
with
the
production
of
the
plan,
so
we
can
move
forward
and
hit
that
letting
date
that
we've
planned
on
for
some
time
now.
As
far
as
discussions
on
that,
we
have
not
moved
forward
in
the
direction
of
the
agreements
in
place
right
now.
B
Our
main
goal
was
to
get
going
with
agreements,
so
we
can
start
work
on
this
project,
but
I
will
let
mr
adida
gonzales
fill
us
in
a
little
bit
more
on.
What's
going
on
with
that,
so.
A
D
Thank
you
all
good
afternoon,
tito
gonzalez
here
with
txdot
director
of
tp
dealer
district
yeah.
Just
to
give
you
all
an
update,
some
good
news.
We
have
progressed
along
this.
We
have
already
received
executed,
afas
from
both
the
city
and
the
county,
to
move
over
on
the
city
side
for
us
to
take
over
the
the
the
psne,
which
is
the
development
of
plans
for
the
charter
manager
portion,
which
is
a
whole
roadway.
D
So
we
do
have
that
already
executed.
We
have
already
our
consultant
on
board
and
we
are
going
to
have
a
kickoff
meeting
here
in
the
next
couple
weeks
to
get
that
started.
So
good
news
on
that
with
the
county
we
have
their
executed
afa
as
well,
so
we're
already
starting
to
bring
our
consultant
on
board
to
complete
depending
environmental
clearance
items.
So
we
can
move
towards
getting
environmental
clearance
on
that
project.
D
What
that
will
trigger
once
environmental
clearance
is,
is
attained
that
will
allow
the
city
to
complete
the
acquisition
or
the
transfer
of
the
right-of-way
to
the
city
of
laredo
and
then
speaking,
to
what
your
question
was
mayor
at
that
moment
in
time,
once
the
city
has
full
legal
rights
to
the
property.
D
D
As
far
as
as
what
responsibilities
you
all
will
take,
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
texas
will
only
be
dealing
with
with
the
city
of
laredo
on
that,
so
any
dealings
or
negotiations
as
far
as
funding
or
or
how
you
want
to
divvy
up
that
transfer
that
that
will
be
on
the
city
of
laredo,
because
textile
will
only
have
an
agreement
with
the
state
of
loreto.
On
that.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
notice,
and,
and
I
see
mr
robert
eads,
our
city
managers
also
has
joined
us,
so
robert
you're
on
do
you
notice,
and
I
believe
mr
riya
riya
mia,
has
also
been
handling
this
and,
of
course,
our
our
city
engineers
will
rewind
javi.
So
robert,
can
you
hear
us.
A
I
Well,
I,
if
I
may
mayor
martin
martinez
just
quickly
and
the
reason
for
this
lack
of
working
with
the
county
is,
would
be,
I
guess,
what's
the
reason,
the
the
location
of
the
roadways
or
just
the
semantics
of
how
the
agreement
is
being
set
up.
D
What
was
that
question
directed
to
me,
dr
martinez,.
D
Yes,
so
the
reason
is,
if
you
look
at
the
agreement
that
we
have
with
the
afa,
the
the
responsibility
was
for
the
city
remember
to
do
the
whole
entire
psne
to
let
the
project,
so
the
city
is
fully
responsible
to
get
the
the
right
away.
I
mean-
and
we
have,
I
believe
also.
You
may
have
your
engineer,
mr
ramon
chavez
on
here,
but
we
have
been
meeting
bi-weekly,
mayor
and
rest
of
the
committee
policy
members
to
get
this.
D
A
Okay,
thank
you
any
other
point
on
this
pattern
and
if
not,
we
need
to
move
on
to
item
c
under
roman
numeral
four
and
she
can
call
for
noah
d.
I
believe
yeah
d
and
discussion
of
possible
action
on
the
adoption
of
the
proposed
w.l
kempo
independent
npo
plan.
A
A
F
F
F
In
march
of
this
year,
we
reviewed
our
work
plan
with
you,
our
new
five-year
work
plan,
and
at
that
time
we
talked
about
we're,
bringing
very
soon
the
independent
mpo
plan,
and
then,
of
course,
today
we're
presenting
it
to
you.
So
you
received
this
in
the
packet.
It
was
not
a
long
document,
it's
only
about
six
pages
long,
but
I
want
to
go
through
the
highlights
of
it
with
you,
starting
with
the
advantages
and
disadvantages
of
of
the
current
system
or
moving
towards
an
independent
nbo.
F
On
the
advantage
side,
we
have
operations
to
collaborate
with
city
departments
directly
because
we're
in
the
we're
in
the
same
office
as
the
planning
department
and
the
building
department.
That's
not
going
to
change
the
npo,
no
matter
what
is
still
going
to
collaborate
with
the
city
and
the
county.
However,
on
the
disadvantaged
side
of
having
those
employees
right
here
is
often
their
responsibilities
and
their
time
is
often
blurred
between.
F
What's
even
though
they're
an
mpo,
employee
they'll
actually
spend
time
on
city
stuff
and
then
on
the
advantage
side,
we
have
low
operating
costs,
because
the
city
is
currently
chosen
not
to
charge
for
for
the
rent
of
this
space
where
the
employees
are
at.
So
so
that's
good,
but
on
the
disadvantaged
side,
is
that
the
tools,
the
personnel
time
and
other
things
that
are
paid
for
by
the
npo
have
the
potential
to
be
utilized
by
city
staff
and
then
a
couple
of
other
additional
major
disadvantages
with
the
current
system.
F
Is
that
currently
having
a
planning
director
who's
appointed
by
the
the
well?
The
way
our
bylaws
say
it
now
is
that
the
planning
director
of
the
city
of
laredo
is
automatically
the
mpo
director
with
what
that
means.
Ultimately,
is
that
the
person
who
who
hires
the
the
the
planning
director
is
the
city
council
and
that's
who
the
planning
director
is
going
to
be
most
responsive
to?
How
do
I
know
that,
because
I
can
tell
you
that's
my
experience
these
last
two
years.
That's
I
tried
my
best
to
you
know.
F
It's
it's
a
good
old
wisdom
that
I
think
is
very
apt
here
and
then
the
final
disadvantage
is
that
there's
the
mpo
doesn't
have
the
staff
here
in
the
empo
director
me
acting
as
the
npo
director
has
no
final
authority
over
procurement
salaries,
hiring
decisions,
even
though
I
bring
you
an
approved
budget
and
tell
you
what
my
strategy
is-
and
you
say
yes,
kirby
do
it.
I
don't
have
the
final
authority
over
that.
F
It
still
goes
through
the
city
side
and
hr
and
management,
and
they
ultimately
make
the
decisions,
even
if
the
policy
committee
has
already
agreed
to
pay
certain
salaries
in
certain
budgets.
So
in
other
words,
not
only
is
that
a
create
a
long
process,
but
it
means
that
the
mpo
director
and
possibly
do
not
have
the
final
authority
over
those
decisions.
F
F
We
have
tti
who's
present
in
this
meeting
and
we
have
txdot
and
we're
not
the
first
ones
to
do
this.
We're
not
we
won't
be
the
last
ones
to
do
it.
Other
mpos
have
moved
to
this
independent
structure.
We
have
drafts
of
mousse
and
contracts
in
place,
so
this
is
not
going
to
be
a
difficult
process
and
we
have
them
there
to
guide
us
and
then.
Finally,
the
policy
committee
is
not
making
all
those
decisions
to
be
independent.
F
Today,
we're
just
making
a
couple
of
the
of
the
first
ones,
the
first
steps
and
then
we'll
be
bringing
back
to
you
options
and
decisions
to
be
made
at
a
later
date.
So
you're,
not
you're,
not
deciding
everything
today.
What
you're
deciding
is
to
adopt
this
plan
to
take
these
steps
to
move
forward
and
then
to
appoint
an
interim
npo
director.
F
F
There
has
to
be
a
10-day
public
hearing
period,
so
we're
going
to
open
that
today
and
then
in
june
you
can
actually
adopt
it,
which
means
you
can
appoint
a
permanent
mpo
director
at
that
time
in
june
and
then
in
august,
we're
recommending
to
enter
into
a
mou
agreement
with
webb
county
as
the
new
fiscal
agent.
Now
that
does
not
have
to
occur,
so
the
city
of
laredo
could
remain
the
fiscal
agent.
The
reason
we
are
recommending
the
county
become
the
fiscal
agent
is
because
we
need
a
fresh
relationship
with
a
fiscal
agent
right
now.
F
What
we
have
in
place
with
the
city
of
laredo
is
a
contract
that
allows
us
that
was
signed
many
years
ago
that
allows
the
city
to
be
reimbursed
for
mpo
expenses.
What
we
do
not
have
in
place
are
any
mous
that
stipulate
how
this
relationship
occurs
and
by
de
facto
we've
been
operating
the
mpo
as
just
city
of
laredo
employees
within
the
planning
department.
F
It
is
possible
to
enter
into
some
mousse
keep
the
city
as
the
fiscal
agent,
so
that
it's
very
clear
that
the
mpo
is
independent.
It
doesn't
go
through
the
city's
hr,
it
doesn't
go
through
management.
It
reports
directly
to
the
policy
committee,
the
members
who
are
here
today
that
is
possible.
However,
it's
not
recommended.
We
are
recommending
it
move
to
the
county,
because
it
needs
that
new
fresh
start,
where
it
is
just
understood
by
everyone,
who's
involved,
all
the
staff
involved,
all
the
management
involved,
that
it
is
a
separate
organization.
F
F
There
is
no
advantage
for
this
moving
over
to
the
county,
nor
should
there
be
any
advantage
currently
for
it
to
be
with
the
city
as
an
independent,
mpo,
they're
employees
of
the
npo,
and
they
report
directly
to
policy
committee
and-
and
there
is
no
advantage
to
any
other
organization
and
that's
what
we're
proposing
so
that
would
be
in
in
august
and
as
well.
In
august,
we
determine
the
staff:
do
we
determine
the
meeting
space
and
office
needs?
F
We
would
look
for
an
in-kind
contribution
like
the
city
is
currently
doing
where
they
just
let
us
use
the
space
we
would
ask
of
that
of
of
the
county
or
the
city
or
of
other
organizations
here
in
the
region,
and
if
nobody's
willing
to
do
that,
we
we
have
funds
to
pay
for
all
the
staff
and
all
of
the
overhead
for
all
those
staffs.
With
the
planning
grant
that's
received,
and
then
in
september,
we'll
want
to
establish
new
operating
policies
and
procedures.
F
Those
will
be
brought
to
the
policy
committee.
All
these
things,
these
mous
policies,
procedures
and
contracts
will
be
brought
to
the
policy
committee
for
their
approval
in
september,
we'll
also
authorize
any
necessary
contracts
or
mousse
at
the
policy
committee
and
and
or
the
city,
council,
or
or
also
the
county
commission.
F
If
we
need,
if
need
be,
and
then
finally,
by
october,
is
when
we
would
be
ready
estimated
to
transition
over
from
the
those
employees
who
voluntarily
want
to
leave
the
city
of
laredo
employment
and
come
to
the
npo
that
is
voluntary
and
as
we're
recommending
it
here,
they
wouldn't
have
to
go.
But
again,
these
are
not
employees
that
shouldn't
they
shouldn't
be
doing
anything
for
the
city.
They
should
already
be
employees
that
are
working
for
the
npo
they're,
simply
transitioning,
who
it
is
that
the
name
that's
written
on
their
paycheck.
F
So
the
new
structure
would
look
like
this.
The
policy
committee,
the
npo
director,
would
be
appointed
and
would
be
reporting
directly
to
the
mpo
policy
committee.
There
would
be
no
need
for
a
division
manager.
There
would
be
three
transportation
planners
and
an
admin
and
with
with
me,
leaving
and
also
because
right
now
we're
down
technically
one
position.
We
have
an
acting
division
manager,
but
she
is
a.
She
is
a
transportation
planner
by
her
planner
three,
so
in
other
words
we
could
absorb
if
all
of
them
wanted
to
come.
F
If
they
volunteered
to
come,
we
could
absorb
all
of
them
over
into
the
new
structure
and
there's
no
need
for
a
division
manager.
When
you
have
a
full-time
director.
The
reason
we
have
a
division
manager
now
is
because
the
director
is
part-time,
so,
finally,
just
want
to
end
with
the
endorsements.
We
reviewed
this
plan
with
the
with
the
technical
committee,
which
rep,
which
has
representatives
from
both
the
city
and
the
county
on
it,
and
there
was
a
unanimous
recommendation
with
those
from
the
city
and
county
and
those
others
that
serve
on
that
takeover
committee.
F
We
also
reviewed
this
with
the
federal
highway
administration
and
txdot
and
they've
also
endorsed
this
plan
and
by
the
way
fhwa
pointed
out.
Laredo
is
the
last
tma,
the
last
large
npl
in
texas.
That
is
not
does
not
have
this
mpos.
That
does
not
have
this
independent
structure,
we're
the
last
ones
and
just
want
to
reiterate
again
just
like
I
said
previously:
we're
not
the
first
ones
to
do
this.
We
won't
be
the
last
we've
got
fha
and
txdot
there
to
assist
us.
They've
got
drafts
of
mouss
and
contracts.
F
A
Yes,
do
you
have
any
questions
or
comments?
I
do.
Would
you
take
us
back
to
that
graphic
kirby
when
you
show
the
no,
the
other
one,
I'm
sorry,
the
the
structure.
A
Yeah
yeah
right,
so,
if
I
understand
it
correctly
and
of
course
this
is
a
big
move
and-
and
I
and
I
get
the
the
independence
factor
because
I
know
I've
heard
it
also
too
from
other
textile
higher-ups
other
than
david.
You
know
that
that
we
are
the
last.
You
know
big
large,
you
know
npo,
you
know
body
here
that
needs
to
be
independent,
but
but
the
the
transitioning
at
least
from
my
end
and
robert.
This
is
where
you
come
into,
and
I've
asked
you
to
join.
A
Please
also
to
share
your
thoughts.
It's
it's
this
detachment
that
that
I
know
that
may
make
great
issues
with
the
city,
because
I
know
some.
You
know
those
employees
currently
are
being
paid
personally
by
the
city
and
then,
if
they
do
decide
to
go
with
the
mto,
then
it
would
leave
us.
You
know
with
a
gap
and
of
course
we
you
know
we're
we're
needing
people
not
more
than
ever.
A
So
I
know
that
that
that
that
presents
an
issue
for
the
city.
In
terms
of
you
know
how
do
we?
How
do
we
fill
these
scams?
When
do
these?
People
need
to
decide
so?
The
city
and
fairness
of
the
city,
we
can
start
planning
for
for
hiring
some
other
people.
A
If,
if
we
get
there,
I
mean
if
we,
if
we
move
there-
and
I
know-
and
I
also
get
the
fact
that
the
kirby
is
conflicted
or
whoever
sits
in
kirby's
position,
because
you
know
he's
both
the
the
mpo
director
and
but
also
the
planning
director
and
and
obviously
he's.
You
know,
he's
telling
us
that
that
that
presents
issues
for
him
personally
and
professionally.
I
guess
so.
I
I
I
just
want
to
hear
more
from
others,
but
for
me
it's
just
transitioning.
A
You
know
how
do
we
you
know
we?
It
would
appear
that
the
city
would
need
more
time,
apprentice,
the
city
and
then,
and
then,
if
it's
truly
independent,
if
it,
if
the
system
goes
to
the
county
as
a
fiscal
agent,
you
know,
aren't
they
also,
but
you
told
us
kirby
that
it
has
nothing
to
do
whether
the
city
or
the
county,
it
remains.
The
city
remains
where
the
county
gets
the
fiscal
agency
that
that
really
doesn't
do
anything.
It
doesn't
give
more
authority
or
power
or
whatever
yeah
yeah.
A
So
so,
if
that's
correct,
then
then-
and
I
know
the
question
is
votes
I
mean
the
membership
and
apparently
the
membership
would
remain
the
same
as
my
understanding.
So
you
know
if
you
include
the
transit
representative,
the
city
would
have
four
members,
I
believe,
and
the
county
would
end
up
with
three
and
then
we
have
two
two
text
personnel
and
if
that
doesn't
change
it,
it
kind
of
leaves
us
basically
with
the
same
voting
structure
since.
A
Plans
to
change
that-
and
there
is,
I
think
we
all
need
to
know-
and
I
think
the
mayor
continues
as
the
npo
chair
and
the
judge
or
the
vice
chair.
So
if,
if
those
kind
of
remain
in
place,
then
then
it's
a
question
of
just
you
know
the
money
is
the
county,
then
you
know
who's
going
to
finance
this
in
his
in
and
are
we
going.
G
A
Or
or
how
is
that
going
to
work
out,
so
I
guess
yeah,
those
are
the
questions
or
thoughts
that
I've
got.
You
know
the
financing
part,
the
independence
part,
the
voting
part
and,
and
the
timing
do
we
do.
We
need
more
time
as
a
city
to
to
you
know,
plan
in
any
vacancies
potential
vacancies
and
there
could
be
a
so
so
anyway.
Those
are
my
thoughts
and
questions.
Yeah,
I'm
raising
more
questions
than
then
solutions.
F
A
Employees
she's
the
interim
correct
robert
she's,
the
interim
planner,
now.
F
She's,
the
interim
and
she's
already
been
moved
out
of
the
npo,
so
she
wouldn't
be.
She
wouldn't
be
considered
for
this
move
she's
working
in
the
current
planning
side
as
our
historic
preservation
officer
and
zoning
officer,
and
now
the
interim
director
after
today,
so
there
would
be
no
vacancies
created
because
these
are
mpl
employees
already
now
in
terms
of
financing,
the
city
is
not
paying
one
dime
for
these
employees.
F
How
it's
supposed
to
work?
How
it
should
work
is
that
these
employees
are
when
you're
the
fiscal
agent.
All
it
means
is
you're
fronting
the
cash,
that's
it
you're,
putting
up
the
cash
and
you
get
reimbursed
for
everything,
and
so
this
is
not
going
to
have
any
fiscal
implication
on
the
city
or
the
county,
regardless
of
who
the
fiscal
agent.
Is
you
get
reimbursed
for
your
expenses
for
the
npo?
Currently
we're
not
splitting
staff?
So
it's
not
like.
We
have
a
staff,
member
who's,
half
mpo
and
half
planning
department.
F
A
I
F
Yeah
so
basically
there's
no
fiscal
impact
and
then
again
I
it
could.
It
is
possible
for
the
city
to
stay
the
fiscal
agent,
but
why
am
I
recommending
it
move
to
the
county?
Because
I
think
there's
been
a
long
culture,
a
long
history
of
what
the
npo
is
and
yeah
we
could.
We
could
write
some
mouss
and
maybe
try
to
change
that
or
we
could
start
a
new
relationship
with
the
county
and
make
it
clear
up
front
that
the
county
is
not
getting
any
advantage
from
this
they're,
not
getting
any
additional
staff.
I
I
Yes,
sir,
I
have
okay
and
what
was
what
was
the
conflict
where
what
projects
that
you
were
working
on
the
county?
Were
you
not
able
to
accomplish
during
your
two
years
in
this
service.
I
This
is
the
first
I
hear
this
in
your
last
day,
so
I'm
trying
to
understand
why
we
didn't
hear
of
this
conflict
six
months
ago
or
a
year
ago,
because
you're
saying
that
it
needs
to
move
to
the
counties,
because
you
felt
conflicted
for
two
years.
I
I
need
to
understand.
Why
didn't
you
approach
me
a
year
ago.
F
Well,
for
one,
this
is
only
one
reason
why
it
needs
to
move
over
why
the
npo
needs
to
become
independent.
This
is
not
the
only
reason.
This
is
one
reason,
and
you
know
as
this
is.
It
would
not
really
be
your
place
for
me
to
come
to
you
and
tell
you
about
these
things.
These
are
discussions.
We
have
with
management
discussions
we
have
within
our
staff
and
npo.
F
Give
you
an
example,
a
couple
examples,
one
we
we
came
to
the
npo
more
than
a
year
and
a
half
ago
right
at
the
beginning,
when
we
approved
when
I
asked
you
for
a
different
kind
of
program
where
we
would
not
be
going
out
for
consulting,
we
would
be
hiring
staff
and
we
proposed
a
work
plan
that
you
adopted
as
a
policy
committee
with
budget
that
set
aside
how
much
I
could
pay
for
the
employees
that
I
was
trying
to
get
as
you
may
or
may
not
be
aware,
it's
very
difficult
to
get
good
qualified
employees.
F
So
we
got
some
applicants.
We
went
through
those
we
were
able
to
hire
some,
but
there
were
some
we're
not
able
to
hire.
One
example
of
someone
we
weren't
able
to
hire
a
very
well
qualified
candidate,
a
female
candidate
who
I
was
proposing
to
pay
just
as
much
as
we
pay
our
mail
candidate,
who's
equally
qualified
and
what
the
city
told
me
is
no.
F
We
have
to
start
at
the
bottom,
and
I
said
we
didn't
start
the
bottom
for
this
other
individual
for
the
for
her
male
counterpart,
and
they
said
we
have
to
start
at
the
bottom
for
this
one,
so
we
lost
that
female
candidate.
She
was
not
able
to
come
at
the,
even
though
what
I
was
proposing
was
in
line
with
the
budget.
The
policy
committee
had
already
approved,
so
you
said
I
could
hire
up
to
this
amount
and
the
city
said:
no.
F
You
can't
now
ultimately
that
responsibility,
I'm
going
to
say
is
on
me
because,
as
the
npo
policy
as
the
npo
director,
I
could
have
brought
that
back
to
the
policy
committee's
attention
and
said
hey.
I
need
to
hire
this
person.
You've
already
approved
it.
You
know
the
city's
saying
no,
but
you
already,
I
could
have
made
it
an
issue.
However,
how
would
have
that?
How
many
bridges,
where
have
I
burned
as
the
planning
director
trying
to
do
all
the
things
I'm
trying
to
do
on
the
planet?.
H
F
Itself
no,
but
in
addition
to
moving
to
the
county
as
a
fiscal
agent,
we
start
off
that
relationship
with
mousse
written
into
the
contract
of
our
agreement
that
the
hr
in
the
county
and
administration
of
the
county
does
not
have
authority
over
the
npo.
The
npo
goes
directly
to
the
policy
committee
for
any
of
those
kind
of
decisions
like
hiring
firing
and
office
policy,
so
that
that's.
I
F
H
F
You're
right
doesn't
have
to,
but
it
really
doesn't
it
shouldn't
give
any
advantage
or
disadvantage
to
the
city
or
the
county,
in
other
words,
that
the
city
is
arguing
right
now,
hey,
we
need
to
keep
the
mpo
there's
an
advantage
to
the
npo
and
we
don't
want
to
lose
it.
That's
precisely
the
reason
it
needs
to
go,
because
the
city
should
be
indifferent.
The
city
should
say
you
know
what
go
stay.
F
I
That
should
be
the
response,
but
again
I'm
not
I'm
not
really
seeing
the
advantage
right
now.
You're
saying
the
advantage
is
that
they
didn't
want
to
fiscally
pay
more
and
that
made
that
bothered
you,
because
you
couldn't
hire
the
employee
that
you
wanted
to
hire
because
was
it
because
it
was
way
based
on
our
wage
structure,
is.
Was
that
the
problem
so.
F
F
F
C
I
I
F
That
there
be
a
separate
mpo
director
who
is
appointed
by
this
board
and
not
serve
any
other
committee
or
council
and.
I
C
I
F
Yes,
it
would
actually
be
less
because
you
wouldn't
need
that
position
and
also
you
wouldn't
need
to
pay
what
you're
paying
me.
What
I
make
is
a
reflection
of
the
fact
that
I
have
two
jobs
and
I
work
60
hours
a
week
with
this
npo
director.
It
would
be
40
45
hours
a
week,
sometimes
more,
but
you
could
pay
what
what
you
pay
more
in
line
with
other
npo
directors
for
for
infos
of
our
size.
That
was
in
in
the
plan.
The
recommended
salary
was
in
the
plan.
F
F
F
As
far
as
whether
there's
an
implication
at
the
end
of
the
day
really
depends
on
how
many
positions
they
feel
because
currently
in
the
planning
department,
we
don't
have
all
of
our
positions
filled.
So
we
have
a
salary
savings
and
we've
had
a
salary
savings
for
many
years
on
the
order
of
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars.
So
we
don't
have
I
mean
we
have.
We
have
additional
positions
that
you
could
eliminate
in
order
so
that
you
don't
ever
go
over,
but
the
planning
department
has
never
gone
over.
I
Okay
and
and
just
just
to
be
clear,
because
I'm
trying
to
understand
this
independence
aspect,
what
for
for
the
commissioners
that
are
on,
I
really
want
to
remember:
I've
only
been
here
two
years.
You
know
mr
gaylo
judge
you've
been
here
for
a
long
time.
What
projects
have
you
guys
not
been
able
to
push
through
with
this
particular
the
way
it's
set
up
right
now?
I
Is
there
some
granting
opportunity
or
some
something
that
we've
missed
out
of
just
because
of
the
fact
that
it's
been
set
this
way,
I
I
I'm
curious.
E
Dog,
can
we
may
answer
that?
I
I
believe
I
think
the
answer
to
your
question
is
absolutely
not
I.
I
think
it
has
been
very
genuine
to
a
certain
point,
but
I
have
been
you
know
I
think
you're
asking
the
wrong
guy
when
you
ask
me,
because
independently
I've
been
pushing
this
to
be
independent
for
for
many
many
years
now-
and
this
is
coming
from
from
even
from
the
higher
ups
and
textile
to
to
everybody
else-
that
I've
spoken
to
counties
our
size
to
be
an
independent
director.
E
So
to
be
quite
honest
to
you,
the
answer
is
no,
there
has
no
y'all
haven't
done,
nobody's
done
anything
to
us,
but
I
think
it's
fair
also
to
listen
to
mr
steinman's
second
example.
Maybe
third
example,
or
something
like
that.
I
have
spoken
to
the
mayor
on
situations
that
just
came
up
to
me
recently
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
very
important
for
maybe
the
mayor
to
also
say
a
couple
of
those
words
that
what
you
know.
L
E
Other
example
that
I
think
mr
snyderman
snyderman's
just
being
a
little
bit
careful
on
how
he
says
certain
things,
because
there's
going
to
be
some
situations,
I
think
here
before
long
that
we
could
get
into
some
major
trouble.
So
I
just
found
this
out.
I
made
sure
to
tell
the
mayor
as
soon
as
I
knew
this
and
I
think
it's
it
would
be
wise
to
listen
to
maybe
example
number
two
or
three
so
kirby.
Thank
you.
F
Yeah,
so
another
example
is
when
I
first
got
here:
the
the
transportation
set-aside
program,
which
used
to
go
under
a
different
name,
basically,
funds
that
we
receive
every
year
that
we
can
spend
on
creative
projects
to
encourage
alternative
transportation.
F
F
My
determination
as
director
at
that
point
was
okay.
Let's,
let's
not
move
forward
with
these
projects
that
we
received.
Let's
wait
to
do
an
additional
call
for
projects
because
oftentimes
as
an
agency,
we
can
do
a
call
for
projects
which
means
we
put
something
in
the
newspaper.
No
one
knows
about
it
and
then
we
only
get
some
applications
back
from
those
that
are
in
the
know.
F
Whereas
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
a
call
for
projects
where
we
actively
go
out
in
the
community
target.
People
we
know
could
be
very
much
involved,
make
sure
we
really
sound
the
trumpet
and
get
it
out
and
then,
when
we
get
a
dozen
call
for
projects
a
dozen
projects
back,
then
we
can
better
evaluate
how
we
should
spend
these
very
precious
dollars
that
we
get,
and
I
started
that
process
and
then
was.
F
It
was
made
clear
to
me
that
no,
this,
these
monies
have
already
been
they've
already
been
spoken
for
and
again,
I'm
gonna
put
the
blame
on
me
because
at
that
point
what
I
could
have
done
is
said.
No,
that's
the
wrong
call.
Let
me
go
to
the
policy
committee,
explain
this
to
them,
and
then
you
know,
let's
air,
all
the
dirty
laundry
and
then
people
are
going
to
be
upset.
And
what
do
I
do
as
the
new
planning
director?
Well,
I
just
burned
some
bridges
there
and
there's
a
lot
of
things.
F
Yes,
we're
going
to
make
sidewalk
improvements,
but
without
any
plan
without
any
which,
as
a
side
note
we're
currently
working
on
a
plan
to
where
we
can
prioritize
sidewalk
improvements,
but
with
no
plan
it'll,
basically
be
just
council
members,
picking
where
those
sidewalk
improvements
go
and-
and
I
felt
like
that-
was
a
waste
of
these
precious
dollars,
but
but
instead
of
bringing
that
to
your
attention,
I
said.
Okay,
let
me
not
rock
the
boat,
because
if
I
rock
the
boat
now,
maybe
I
won't
be
able
to
get
down
to
things.
F
I
want
to
get
done,
which
is
these.
Last
two
years,
we've
worked
so
hard
to
restructure
the
department
to
to
do
all
the
things
we've
done
in
the
planning
department
and
for
the
mpo.
I
was
able
to
do
that
because
I
felt
like
you
know.
I
didn't
burn
any
bridges,
so
that's
another
example
of
those
dollars
got
spent
without
more
opportunities
of
others
being
able
to
be
included
on
that.
We
didn't
just
spend
this
year's
dollars.
We
spent
two
years
of
future
dollars.
F
We
spent
over
a
million
dollars
of
these
funds
and
and
so
there's
another
example
of
how
the
pressure
of
the
planning
director
in
the
city
can
influence.
How
things
happen
on
the
npo
side.
A
G
G
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
I
thank
mr
schneiderman
for
all
his
work,
that
he's
done
and
I
definitely
understand
where
he's
coming
from
with
his
conflict
there.
As
somebody
who
is
trying
to
accomplish
a
bigger
picture.
Sometimes
you
have
to
lose.
I
guess
the
battles,
so
you
don't
lose
the
war
and
there's
definitely
a
lot
of
stress
that
comes
along
with
this
type
of
conflict,
and
I
know
because
I've
experienced
it.
G
I've
seen
it
myself
in
other
situations,
and
I
don't
think
that
mr
snyderman
is
to
blame
for
not
bringing
this
forward
because
ultimately
you're
trying
to
protect
your
job
and
you're
trying
to
get
a
bigger
goal
accomplished
in
your
position,
and
so
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you've
done
and
for
the
you
know
the
standing
your
ground,
but
at
the
same
time
I
don't
fault
you
for
not
bringing
these
things
forward,
because
I
know
why
you
didn't,
but
I'm
glad
that
you
did
bring
it
up
today,
since
you
were
challenged
and
asked-
and
I
do
encourage
the
city
to
take
these
examples
as
and
this
conflict
into
consideration
and
see
that
this
may
just
be
for
the
best
interest
of
the
greater
good
overall.
C
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
kind
of
the
judge's
point.
You
know
wait
from
the
beginning
when
we
this
was
first
an
action
item.
I
think
he
and
I
both
were
opposed
to
that
we're
doing
it
up.
C
I
know
that
it
was
an
issue
at
the
beginning,
saying
it
had
to
go
through
an
entity
to
to
do
the
the
payroll.
However,
we
want
to
do
it,
I
mean
you
know
just
like
I
just
I
think
it's
time,
because
I
remember,
I
think
we
transferred
like
a
half
a
million
dollars
to
the
city
at
that
one
time
to
start
hiring
everybody,
and
then
you
know
I
I.
This
is
the
first
time
I
heard
about
it
that
he
wasn't
able
to
hire
the
people
that
they
wanted
to
hire.
C
You
know
weren't
able
to
pay.
You
know
the
matter
depending
on
whatever
gender.
It
is
the
same
amount
of
money.
You
know
what
they're
deserving.
So
that's
that's
not
right,
and
so
I'm
concerned
about
the
transition.
I
know
he's
got
a
pretty
good
plan
there,
but
you
know
whatever
we
can
do
to
to
make
it
smoother
and,
like
I
say,
if
you
all
want
to
see
some
sort
of
joint
venture,
I'm
I'm
open
to
look
at
that.
C
You
know
to
see
how
we
could
do
it,
but
I'm
also
concerned
that
these
people
don't
have
enough
work.
That's
why
you
know
at
the
beginning,
we
we
said
all
right.
You
know
we
don't
mind
them
doing
work
for
the
city
as
long
as
they're
doing
their
other
job.
First
at
least
I
didn't
care
if
they
did
other
work.
You
know
to
fill
in
the
day,
because
I'm
not
sure
that
there
is
enough
work
and
kirby
could
answer
that
for
them
to
be
eight
hours
a
day.
C
You
know
40
hours
a
week
and
so
that
that
was
my
concern
at
the
time
I
said,
what
are
we
gonna
do
with
all
these
people,
and
I
know
he
he
said
he
hired
them
specifically
for
the
people
for
the
city
to
transition
them
in,
and
so
now
we're
at
this
point.
So,
let's
see
how
we're
going
to
get
out
of
it.
F
Yes,
number
one:
definitely
there
is
plenty
to
do
and
if
you
look,
if
you
ever
want
to
know
what
we're
up
to
go
to
the
new
mpo
website
go
under
projects,
go
into
click
on
the
mpo
work
plan
right
here.
It's
a
live
document
that
we
use
every
day
to
figure
out
our
staff
and
our
staff
time
and
what
our
assignments
are.
You
can
look
at
all
the
plans
that
we're
working
on
which
plans
are
active,
we're
currently
working
on
them,
which
ones
are
scheduled
in
each
one
of
these
plans.
F
You
can
go
to
the
link
for
these
plans.
For
instance,
you
can
look
at
the
ppp.
The
public
participation
plan,
click
on
number
four,
and
you
can
see
all
the
tasks
that
are
assigned
to
the
different
npo
staff,
the
progress
we're
making
on
them
the
deadlines,
how
long
it's
going
to
take,
and
so
we
have
plenty
of
work.
F
We
have
so
much
work
that
we're
we
are
going
to
have
to
we're
going
to
have
to
continue
to
use
consultants,
and
you
know
we
try
to
use
them
more
strategically,
because
now
we
have
full-time
staff,
but
there
are
instead
of
giving
them
a
whole
project,
we'll
just
give
them
a
piece
of
the
project.
But
yes,
there's
plenty
of
work
for
them.
The
second.
F
With
what
you
said
is
that
there
is
no
cost
to
anyone,
the
city
or
the
county,
all
your
all,
the
expenses
of
the
npo
get
reimbursed
by
the
planning
grant
of
which
we
don't
spend
all
that
we
get
every
year.
So
there
is,
you
cannot
do.
There
is
no
joint
venture,
because
you
can't
have
two
fiscal
agents.
You
can
only
have
one
fiscal
agent
and
that
all
that
agency
is
doing
is
fronting
the
cash
and
they're
getting
reimbursed
month
to
month,
monthly
back
for
those
expenses.
F
So
this
does
not
have
any
financial
implication
to
to
whoever
the
fiscal
agent
is
and
this
plan.
If
you
adopted
today,
this
does
not
say
that
you
have
to
move
to
the
county
as
the
new
fiscal
age.
It
could
remain
the
city
as
the
fiscal
agent
and
those
options
will
be
brought
to
the
policy
committee
at
a
later
date.
F
All
what
this
says,
though,
is
that
whether
the
city
stays
the
fiscal
agent
or
the
county
goes
as
a
fiscal
agent,
which
is
what
we
recommend,
that
there
be
mou's
in
place,
that
there
be
written
contracts
and
mousse
that
stipulate
who's
in
charge
of
the
npo.
It's
the
policy
committee,
it's
not
any
other
administration
or
hr
or
any
other
department.
F
C
F
F
Well,
they
could
certainly
give
us
an
in-kind
contribution
of
space
of
office
space,
but
no
they
we
can't
we,
they
can't
be
our
fiscal
agent,
but
yes,
they
could
they
could
and
we're
going
to
be
asking
everybody
for
free
office
space
like
we
have
now
right
now.
The
city
gives
us
this
office
space
for
free
for
the
npu
employees,
and
they
could
continue
to
do
that.
We
could
continue
to
be
here.
C
F
A
M
Yes,
please
just
a
couple
of
comments,
mr
simon.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
up.
I
am
all
about
independence.
I
think
the
npo
should
be
independent,
I'm
I'm
all
for
that.
100,
there's
just
a
lot
of
questions
that
we
still
have
and
we
have
not
had
them
answered
and
we're
not
going
to
get
them
answered
in
two
or
three
hours.
M
Even
if
we
stay
on
here
until
5,
30,
6
o'clock,
the
finalizer
structure,
staffing
funding,
details,
policies
and
procedures,
I
think
we
should
discuss
that
beforehand
before
we
even
vote
on
having
this
change
done.
I
think
it's
premature
for
us
to
be
voting
on
this
right
away
specifically
because
we
just
brought-
or
you
just
brought
these
matters
to
our
attention.
M
I'd
ask
for
a
little
more
time,
and
I
would
actually
ask
to
our
motion
to
table
the
item,
to
give
us
some
time
to
do
some
type
of
research
behind
the
doors
and
see
what's
going
on
what
we
actually
need,
because
I'm
sorry
I
would
just
hit
with
this
on
friday.
So
it's
very
new
to
me
to
try
to
have
all
these
changes
take
place
and
the
structure
itself.
I'm
I'm
having
a
lot
of
questions
when
it
comes
to
a
lot
of
people
do
obviously
just
a
lot
of
questioning.
M
As
far
as
the
staffing
is
concerned,
is
it
going
to
hurt
the
city?
It's
not
going
to
hurt
the
city.
Is
it
only
going
to
benefit
the
npo
not
to
benefit
the
city
as
well
and
the
county
as
well?
You
know
we
are
playing
partners
together.
We
are
partners
together
and
want
to
make
sure
that
our
our
leaders
are
still
getting
together
and
getting
along
very,
very
well
as
we
are
now.
M
M
No,
the
only
only
reason
why
is
because
the
structure
itself
is
they're
going
to
pull
actual,
not
necessarily
funding,
but
people
from
the
city
itself
yeah.
They
are
considering
their
mpo
employee
and
then
I
understand
and
then
and
then
on
top
of
not
only
the
personnel
side,
but
we're
talking
about
the
actual
structure
itself.
You
don't
implement
something
and
try
to
do
the
structure
afterwards.
The
structure.
C
A
Yeah
and
I'll
take
the
motion.
You
know
once
I
speak
yeah,
maybe
along
the
lines
you
know.
Obviously
we
want
a
smooth
transition.
You
know
we
we're
partners,
major
issues
between
the
county
and
and
the
city,
and
I
think
they
both
deny
and
and
all
the
electricity
playing
hard
to
take.
E
I'm
not
sure
why
we
have
to
get
anybody.
I
mean
I
think
this
is
very
well
planned.
I
think
this
is
a
very
detailed
adoption
policy
that
we
could
do
and
I
think
kirby
nailed
it
with
one
statement
that
he
said
extremely
well.
E
It
should
not
affect
anybody
or
anything
they
should
be
it
could
I
mean
whether
it
goes
back
and
forth
to
the
county,
the
city,
the
city,
the
county
county
city.
I
mean
obviously
there's
some
things
already.
That's
already
making
us
uncomfortable,
and
I
say
yes,
I
would
think
the
county
side
because,
and
I'm
very
sure,
some
of
you
in
the
city
don't
even
know
what's
going
on
either.
E
F
But
you
do
have
a
motion
on
the
table.
Can
I
quickly
clarify
something
quickly,
clarify
that
adopting
this
plan
does
not
adopt
any
of
those
changes?
Adopting
this
plan
does
not
put
anything
else
into
place.
Adopting
this
plan
just
says.
We
have
a
roadmap
for
the
considerations
that
will
be
brought
to
you
at
a
future
meeting.
So
you
don't
need
to
table
this.
You
can
choose
to
do
so,
but
you're
not
adopting
this
plan
does
not
adopt
a
new
structure,
doesn't
adopt
any
of
the
mous
doesn't
adopt
to
change
the
fiscal
agent.
F
It
doesn't
do
any
of
that.
All
it
does
is
lay
out.
This
is
the
framework,
and
then
all
those
decisions
will
be
brought
to
you
in
the
next
several
months
and
then
you'll
be
able
to
make
those
decisions
later
all
this
does
it
says:
yes,
staff
start
looking
into
it,
bring
us
back
those
decisions
later
and
we'll
continue.
A
C
I
I
haven't
heard
of
it.
I
haven't
heard
a
second,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
to
adopt
kirby's
plan
to
move
forward.
A
A
J
Just
it's
because
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
cryptic
conversation
that
I
have
no
idea
about,
I
would
have
hoped
I
would
have
heard
about
all
of
this
conversation.
Before
today's
meeting
I
had
to
reach
out
to
mr
schneiderman
himself
friday
night
and
asked
him
what
this
agenda
was
about
and
then
to
try
to
explain
the
process
forward.
J
Attention
to
the
street,
thank
you,
so
I
would
have
appreciated,
especially
for
my
planning
director
heads
up
or
noticed
that
there
was
some
some
issue.
First
of
all,
that's
something
that
our
own
planning
director
could
not
figure
out
between
himself
and
and
and
himself
as
an
mpo
director.
I
would
have
loved
to
have
known
that
prior
to
today's
conversation.
J
This
is
quite
honestly,
very,
very,
very
shocking
to
me,
and
and
and
I'm
I'm
disappointed
in
in
how
I'm
having
to
hear
about
this,
because
I
would
have
enjoyed
probably
at
least
entertain
the
ability
to
try
to
address
these
conversations
but
to
hear
him
in
this
session.
J
Right
now
and
on
your
last
day,
mr
snyderman,
not
even
given
the
opportunity
and
coming
and
trying
to
just
make
these
comments
and
then
run
and
leave
wherever
you're
leaving
to
seems
very
unfortunate,
because
I
thought
we
had
a
better
relationship
to
that,
because
I
would
have
helped
you
through
this
process
and
and
to
say.
Let
me
also
address
one
thing
so
that
we're
very
clear
there
has
been
a
cost
to
the
taxpayers
and
there
will
be
a
cost.
J
My
understanding
now
I'm
hearing
that
mr
snyderman's
intent
all
along
to
hire
these
individuals
in
our
own
planning
department
was
ultimately
to
migrate
them
over
to
the
mto.
I
didn't
know
that
taxpayers
were
going
to
go
ahead
and
train
and
house
and
have
been
recruited,
which
has
a
high
cost
to
us
solely
to
be
able
to
move
them
over
into
the
mto.
I
had
no
idea
that
that
was
the
ultimate
intent.
J
I
would
have
thought
my
planning
director
would
be
recruiting
for
the
planning
department
and
not
another
organization,
and
so
again
I
am
just
dumbfounded,
shocked
and
disappointed
at
having
to
hear
all
this
right.
Now
where
it
goes.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
that,
but
I
gotta
tell
you
as
well
I
I
am
a
little
dismayed
at
just
hearing
this
right
now.
A
couple
hours
before
mrs
simon
leaves
today.
J
So
I
would
have
you
know,
appreciated
a
little
bit
more
information,
especially
being
that
I
did
recruit
mr
simon
to
come
on
on
board
and
try
to
help
with
the
situation,
but.
J
As
though
this
is
the
some
sort
of
plan
that
that's
been
contrived
on
the
way
out,
because
if
not,
I
would
have
heard
about
this-
I
thought
I
would
have
heard
about
this
months
ago,
yeah
or
a
year
ago,
but
but
to
hear
about
it
just
hours
before
mr
simon
leaves
I
just
have
to
say.
I
have
to
just
make
that
comment
and
leave
it
at
that,
make
the
decision
that
this
commission
wants
to
make
without
a
doubt,
but
at
least
as
as
a
manager.
J
A
A
Yeah,
so
let
me
be
clear,
so
the
motion
is
to
adopt
this
and
and
you're
saying
that.
A
F
It
doesn't
bind
you
to
anything.
It
simply
gives
the
green
flag
to
staff
to
move
forward
with
working
on
future
agenda
items
that
will
be
brought
to
this
this
policy
committee
for
a
decision,
so
it
doesn't
bind
you
to
anything.
It's
just
we're
adopting
the
plan.
We're
you're,
letting
staff
know
yes
proceed
with
the
work
on
these
things
and
bring
us
back
the
decisions
to
make
it
a
later
date.
A
F
Does
that
do
that
goes
back
to
the?
The
assumption
would
be
that
it'd
be
the
same
interim
planning
director
who
was
already
chosen.
F
But
that
you
know
currently
the
bylaws
say
that
the
full
that
the
that
the
planning
director
is
also
the
npo
director.
Well
after
I
leave
today,
you
won't
have
a
planning
director.
All
you'll
have
is
interim
planning
director,
but
the
assumption
is
that
that
intern
playing
director
in
lieu
of
what
we're
going
to
do
today
would
act
as
the
interim
npo
director.
That's
how
we've
operated
in
the
past.
But
the
next
agenda
item
is
for
you
to
a
point,
an
interim
npo
director.
F
F
E
G
I
just
wanted
to
say
in
all
fairness
to
mr
schneiderman:
he
was
pressured
and
asked
by
another
council
member.
You
know
dr
marte
martinez
was
he
was
asked
and
he
answered
the
question.
I
don't
think
his
intention
was
to
hash
out
anything
here.
It's
just
that
he
was
pressured
to
give
an
answer,
and
so
I
don't
think
that
that
that
was
part
of
the
planning
on
for
this
meeting,
and
so
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
Thank
you.
A
B
This
is
david
thompson
with
tech
stock
this
year,
real
shortly.
In
real
brief,
thank
you
to
all
the
accounts
of
people,
especially
customer
parents,
foundationers
and
the
council,
folks
that
provided
comments
on
this
one
topic
that
we
are
having
at
the
mpo
discussion.
Perhaps
not
the
best
place
to
have
this
discussion,
but
it
did
happen.
I
do
want
to
thank
mr
kirby
steinman
tremendous
job.
You
know
we've
been
doing
here
for
some
time.
B
I've
been
dealing
with
npo
over
four
years
and
it
has
always
been
a
situation
where
the
independent
npo
director
was
certainly
something
that
was
needed
to
be
looked
at.
I
will
say
that
you
will
have
the
utmost
support
whatever
direction
the
mpo
committee
decides
to
go.
I
do
want
to
remind
everybody
that
there
is
nothing
that
we
are
doing
different
of
anything
we
are
doing
what
the
rest
of
the
state
is
trying
to
accomplish
right
now
and
to
answer
commissioner
gaylos
to
house
the
npo
directly
within
the
tech
stock
facility.
B
I
I
can
definitely
tell
you
right
now.
The
answer
will
possibly
will
be
no
just
for
the
various
reasons
that
we've
been
on
these
discussions,
but
I
do
want
the
npo
committee
to
know
that
fhwa
and
division
will
be
with
you
through
this
transition
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
here
at
tech
stock,
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
move
forward
in
the
right
direction.
Mr
simon,
my
condolences,
I'm
not
condolence
my
head's
off
to
you,
sir,
for
providing
those
examples.
B
It
takes
a
lot
of
courage
to
step
up
and
do
that.
You've
always
been
one
to
work
great
with
text
out.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
We
certainly
are
gonna,
miss
your
leadership
and
thank
you
a
lot
of
times
for
guiding
us
in
the
right
direction
when,
due
to
the
fact
that
you
were
working
for
two
entities,
conversations
seemed
to
sway
in
different
directions
that
time
and
reminding
the
committee.
B
What
the
reason
of
this
committee
is
for
for
project
selection
and
projects
moving
forward.
So
I
applaud
you
for
that
in
your
efforts.
You
are
going
to
be
missed.
Hopefully
we
can
stay
in
touch
in
the
future,
but
to
wrap
it
up.
Real
quick
mayor,
we
will
be
assisting
with
you.
Every
single
envision
will
guide
you
through
this
transition
again,
nothing
that
we're
not
doing
different.
It's
been
done
before
and
again.
B
Thank
you
for
all
the
comments
on
on
your
councilman
perez
donald
trina,
commissioner
gaylo
on
a
very
important
topic,
and
I
think,
with
the
words
that
were
being
tossed
around
conflict
battle.
Wars
advantage
you
can
see
where
this
is
a
a
very
touchy
subject
that
being
an
independent
mpo
director,
certainly
something
that
we
can
gain
gains
from
moving
forward
to
providing
the
best
for
the
taxpayers.
I
believe
that
mr
martial,
mr
duterte,
is
provided
here.
So
thank
you
again,
mayor
and
again,
you
have
a
full
support.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
those
words
and
a
lot,
those
those
words
as
well.
Mr
salazar,
you
know,
you
know,
you
said
that
texas
would
not
be
able
to
house
you
know.
Possibly
the
answer
would
be.
No,
you
know
keep
in
mind.
We
have
the
rma,
we
have
you
know
the
mpo.
We
have
the
county
planning
and
the
city
planning.
You
know,
maybe
some
neutral
place.
A
Where
we're
you
know
if
we
truly
want
independence,
which
I
think
we
all
do
then
maybe
somewhere
where
you
know
these
entities
can
it
can
be
autonomous,
but
at
the
same
time
you
know
they
can
visit
together.
But
of
course
that's
that's
probably
the
next
agenda.
I
don't
know
that's
coming
up,
but
you
know
keep
that
in
mind
too.
A
I
think
you
know
some
somewhere
and
I
know
the
city
is
in
the
process
of
of
building
or
something
and-
and
I
know
I've
heard
robert
here
and
there
on
some
thoughts
on
not
surely
on
this,
but
maybe
it
could
house
all
of
these.
You
know
entities
together
and
if
we
can
all
pay
rent
somewhere
around
so
anyway,
any
other
thoughts
and
if
not
I'll,
call
for
the
question
call
for
the
question.
A
All
those
in
favor
say
yes
or
raise
your
hand,
so
we
can
see
so
one
two,
you
know
control
be
vocal.
Please.
C
A
So
I
think
we
have
four
votes
out
of
these
seven.
I
believe
so
it
it
carries.
Is
that
correct?
Mr
steiten,
you
know
I
don't.
F
There
was
excuse
me,
there
were
six,
mr
gonzalez,
mr
salazar,
mr
gaylo
gonzalez,
judge,
t
and
council
member
perez.
A
A
I
M
Sir
same
thing,
it
was
just
a
lot
of
questions
that
we
have,
but
kirby
made
it
clear
that
this
is
not
one
direction
way.
It's
gonna
go
so
there
was
questions.
We
still
have
time
to
question
it.
As
far
as
the
mousse
are
concerned,
structures
itself,
I'm
all
for
the
independent
of
the
mpo.
Absolutely
okay,.
C
A
Okay,
so
the
next
item
is
discussion
of
possible
action:
the
employment
of
the
intro
mpo
director
separate
from
the
interim
city
of
laredo
planning
director,
who
was
appointed
by
the
laredo
city
council.
So,
mr
kirby.
Well,
I
guess
we
know
what
what
the
issue
is
yeah,
but
just
be
brief.
If
you
can.
F
Not
for
an
interim
you,
don't
you
have
the
authority
to
appoint
an
interim
director
and
I'm
making
a
recommendation
today
for
that
the
person
I'm
recommending
is
juan
mendive,
who
is
currently
a
planner
three
with
empo.
Now
the
fact
that
you
may
not
personally
know
juan
mandiva
is
actually
a
good
thing,
because
what
we
need
is
an
npo
director,
somebody
who's
not
connected
just
somebody.
Who's
gonna
do
a
fantastic
job,
also
juan
mendive
other
than
myself
is
the
only
certified
planner
in
laredo
and
webb
county
and
a
hundred
miles
from
here.
F
It's
just
me
and
one
and
after
I
leave
it'll
be
only
one-
is
the
only
certified
planner
in
the
city.
Congratulations
to
juani.
He
got
his
certification
this
weekend,
it's
a
very
difficult
process.
He
has
a
bachelor's
degree
in
urban
planning,
a
master's
in
city,
regional
planning,
a
master's
in
public
policy
and
management.
He's
worked
at
the
county
planning
department.
F
He's
worked
at
the
housing
authority
as
a
planning
assistance
administrator
at
neighbor
works.
He
was
an
operations
manager
and
currently
works
as
the
planner
three
one
of
the
planners
in
the
npo.
Now
all
the
credit
you've
given
me
about
this
npo
and
what
we've
been
able
to
do
this
these
last
couple
of
years.
F
It
looks
like
me:
it's
actually
a
team
effort,
but
if
anybody
deserves
a
more
disproportionate
amount
of
the
credit,
it
is
not
me
it's
juan
mendive.
He
has
done
a
fantastic
job.
He
works
hard.
He
never
leaves
a
job
when
done,
and
I'm
confident
that
he's
the
new
mpo
director
you're
looking
for
to
do
a
fantastic
job
of
bringing
this
region
together,
working
with
everybody
and
making
sure
that
we
put
transportation
planning
on
the
radar
where
it
needs
to
be
so,
that's
my
recommendation.
Looking.
K
Everyone
good
good
afternoon,
what's
curry
mentioned
you
know
it's
one
minute,
but
just
a
quick
clarification.
I
did
take
my
aacp
exam
on
friday
and
I
did
pass
that
exam.
There's
just
one
final
little
step
that
I
needed
you
paying
the
juice
to
the
organization
and
also
just
submitting
some
final
essays
to
be
fully
certified.
F
This
is
the
level
of
of
technicality
that
you're
getting
with
a
good
administrator.
That
won't
won't
take
credit.
Where
he's
not
good,
so
he's
almost
there.
It's
just.
K
Always
there
you
just
want
to
make
sure
that
soon
firefight,
because
now
now
that
I
will
be
certified,
there's
a
specific
code
of
ethics
with
aicp
that
I
needed
abide
by
two
and
that's
you
know
always
being
transparent
and
honest.
But
yes,
I
do
have
a
bachelor's
in
planning
from
texas,
a
m
international
university.
K
I
worked
at
webb
county,
that's
where
I
started
my
career
webb
county
planning
department
under
the
leadership
of
ron
tiffin.
After
there
I
went
to
naval
works,
laredo
became
an
operations
manager.
There
was
there
about
three
years,
and
then
I
decided
to
pursue
my
graduate
degree
out
of
state
at
the
ohio
state
university
and
I
got
a
dual
degree.
A
master's
of
city
and
regional
planning
and
a
master
of
arts
in
public
policy
and
management
came
back
to
laredo
worked
the
housing
authority
and
you
know
really
wanted
to
do
more
planning
related
work.
K
They
came
over
to
the
mpo.
I
think
this
is
a
great
place
to
work.
You
know
it's
something
that
I
think
I
see
the
potential
for
the
mpo,
but
it
can
do
at
a
regional
level.
I
think
you
know
if
we
utilize.
All
the
tools
and
funding
mechanisms
available,
we
can
really
utilize
the
mpo
to
be
an
organization
that
will
look
at
things
regionally
and
can
create
the
region
that
we
all
want
to
see
that
we
all
desire
and
also
bring
more
investment.
K
You
know
to
the
region
into
the
community,
so
I
think
you
know
it
is
important
for
the
mpo
to
eventually
be
independent.
I
know
it's
a
very
delicate
position
right
now.
You
know
I
would
right
now
if
this
happens,
there's
still
going
to
be
a
lot
of
uncertain
uncertainties,
a
lot
of
unanswered
questions,
but,
as
I've
mentioned,
you've
heard
me
before
I'm
willing
to
play
a
role
for
the
mpo.
Whatever
that
role
is
whatever
the
commission,
the
committee
would
like
me
to
play
whatever
role
you
all
would
like
me
to
play.
K
F
F
As
you
know,
a
lot
of
the
mpo
work
is
working
with
the
feds
and
working
with
the
state,
so
they
both
agreed
with
this
recommendation
and
I'll
also
say
that
having
selecting
him
as
the
interim
director
is
just
that,
it's
just
the
interim
director,
so
you
can
make
a
decision
later.
That's
the
next
agenda
item
we're
going
to
talk
about
permanent
director,
but
his
being
the
interim
director
doesn't
change
anything
about
his
status.
Currently
working.
F
You
know
for
the
city
of
laredo,
technically,
as
all
as
do
all
the
upl
employees
technically
work
for
the
city
of
laredo,
that
doesn't
change
and
as
the
interim
as
well,
his
salary
doesn't
change
unless
the
city
decides
to
give
him
a
boost
which
they
normally
do
with
interim
directors,
but
it
doesn't
change.
Making
this
decision
today
doesn't
doesn't
change
that
all
it
does
gives
him
the
assignment
as
interim
director
to
move
the
ball
forward
on
the
assignments
until
you
appoint
a
permanent
eo.
A
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much,
gentlemen.
Anything
else
from
the
commission
here
is
there
a
motion
that
we
should
entertain.
C
I'm
sorry
I
said
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
accept
mr
kirby
saturn's
nomination
of
juan
mendez
as
the
interim
mpo
director
I'll.
A
There's
a
motion
in
a
second
but
discussion.
Any
further
discussion
keep
in
mind.
This
is
interim.
So
if
it
comes
on
board,
you
know
we
can.
You
know
further.
K
Yeah,
that's
something
that
I
was
thinking
about.
I
think
for
a
bid.
I
could
do
that.
I
know,
for
example,
the
technical
committee,
mr
steinman,
does
share
the
technical
committee
and
he's
also
the
mpo
director
at
the
moment.
So
there's
no
issue
within
our
bylaws,
but
in
terms
of
the
time
commitment,
I
think
eventually,
once
we
do
have
a
permanent
mpo
director,
whoever
that
person
is,
I
think
someone
else
should
share
the
committee.
G
A
None
call
for
the
question.
All
those
in
favor
say
aye.
C
A
Aye
aye
again,
I
can't
see
you
all,
mr
snyderman
do.
Do
you
see
him
all
right?
What
would
be
I
as
well
unanimous
at
this
point.
A
K
Thank
you.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
everyone.
A
Yes,
sir,
my
pleasure:
here's
the
next
item-
I've
received
public
testimony,
initiate
a
10-day
public
review
and
comment
period
for
the
following
proposed
amendments
of
the
mpo
bylaws
article
2,
section,
2.3,
membership
terms
and
administration
shall
be
amended
to
allow
a
permanent
director
for
the
mpo
separate
from
the
city
of
laredo
planning
director,
who
is
appointed
by
city
council.
A
So
again,
this
is
just
a
you
know
this.
This
independence
factor
that
we've
been
talking
about.
So
we
will
have
someone
totally
independent
from
the
planning
director
is,
that
is
that
correct?
Mr
statement.
F
Well,
the
way
it's
worded
here
is
not
exactly
the
way
the
bylaw
changed,
the
bylaw
change,
but
just
simply
make
it
so
that
it's
not
automatically
the
planning
director.
It
is
by
appointment
of
the
policy
committee.
So
in
the
future,
if
city
management
appoints
a
really
good
planning
director-
and
you
decide
hey,
let's
make
that
woman-
the
planning,
let's
make
her
the
mpo
director
as
well.
Well,
then,
you
certainly
could
do
that.
It's
just
not
automatic
anymore,
that
it
automatically
becomes
the
planning
director
of
the
city
of
radio.
F
It
is
up
to
the
decision
of
the
policy
committee
to
make
that
decision,
and
so
it
says
separate,
but
it
just
means
the
appointment
is
separate.
A
Again,
this
is
only
a
a
public
hearing,
in
other
words,
10-day
public
review
and
comment
period.
A
Not
heard
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
will
hands.
I
can't
see
you
all,
but
I
get
those
against
please
sign
down,
not
heard
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you.
Next.
A
L
Good
afternoon,
mr
mayor
members
of
the
committee,
I
hope
y'all
can
hear
me
fine.
A
L
Thank
you
for
for
this
time.
I'll
be
very
brief.
As
the
update
for
the
regional
building
authority,
my
name
is
anthony
rodriguez,
general
engineering
consultant
on
behalf
of
the
regional
board
authority.
L
So
the
quick
update
is
this
that
we
do
have
multiple
projects
ongoing
first
off,
of
course,
is
our
kilim
industrial
boulevard
turlings
project,
as
we
commonly
know
it.
That's
that
project
is
going
to
start
construction
in
next
in
the
month
of
july
and
will
be
constructed
by
the
tax
department,
transportation,
the
while
the
project
was
originally
was
led
in
november
and
awarded
this
year.
L
The
notice
that
proceeded
the
contractor
to
start
the
work.
The
first
shot,
of
course,
was
the
the
ordering
of
the
signal
polls
for
the
project
and
as
we're
seeing
across
the
state,
it's
a
pretty
common
issue
where
we're
seeing
a
significant
lag
time
in
these
signal
poles
arriving
on
various
construction
projects,
so
not
just
here
in
laredo,
but
also
we're
seeing
this
also
in
hayes
county
and
other
parts
of
the
state.
L
So
I
think
the
the
lag
we're
looking
at
about
a
six-month
lag
for
this
item,
but
we're
excited
for
the
project
you're
going,
so
we're
looking
at
that
definitely
in
july
for
work
to
begin
next
project
is,
of
course,
the
los
presidentes
project.
Of
course,
this
project
is
a
joint
project
with
the
rma,
the
city
of
lorena
web
county
drainage.
District
construction
is
ongoing.
Construction
started
back
in
march,
we
had
our
first
progress
meeting
with
the
contractor
ncc
construction
last
week
on
the
11th
of
may.
L
And
we
have
begun
discussions
with
the
first
real
change
order
for
the
project,
specifically
with
the
updating
part
of
the
street,
to
a
concrete
pavement,
the
segment,
what
we
called
phase
2a
from
concord
hills
to
to
brownwood,
and
this
will
match
the
the
payments,
the
street
payment
section
that
we're
looking
at
we're
calling
phase
one
from
cuatro
yandos
to
concord
hills
so
that
project
is
moving
is
ongoing.
L
In
addition,
as
part
of
the
los
presidences
area,
there's
also
the
cuatro
vientos
component
for
the
proposed
acceleration
deceleration
lane
that
will
tie
into
los
precientes
the
design
of
that
project
is
ongoing.
90
was
submitted
to
txdot
earlier
this
month,
we're
looking
at
having
a
design
review
meeting
from
txdot.
L
L
Next
project,
of
course,
is
of
the
viaceo
road
project.
This
is
the
rma's
first
project
we
have
a
meeting
scheduled,
or
at
least
the
chairman
of
the
board
of
directors,
has
a
meeting
scheduled
with
the
transportation
commission
chairman
mr
bruce
bug
for
the
25th
of
may.
Where
will
we
be
discussing
the
funding
for
viaceo?
L
L
Yes,
sir
carsonic
layout
is
including
that,
as
part
of
the
earmark,
of
course,
that's
still
pending
the
legislation
associated
with
that,
but
it
was
positive
when
he
notified
us
that
he
didn't
want
to
include
it
as
a
as
one
of
his
priority
projects.
A
Yeah,
and
did
he
exclude
the
five
million
at
the
city?
You
know
we
could
use
the
five.
L
Yeah,
no
sir,
no,
we
submitted
the
application
for
the
the
amount
that
we
were
lacking
and
we
were
including
at
the
time
we
submitted
the
the
funding
partners
that
we
have,
including
the
city
of
arena.
A
L
Actually,
the
we
did
start
the
environment
a
couple
years
ago,
commissioner
gaylo,
and
we
took
it
to
a
certain
point.
But
at
the
time
we
weren't
the
project
wasn't
physically
constrained.
So
we
decided
to
stop
work
because
the
the
clearance
would
have
been
would
not
have
been
reached.
The
fonzie
without
the
without
the
fiscal
constraint.
L
Now
that
we
are
much
closer
and
we
have
a
funding
plan
in
place,
we're
basically
waiting
to
see
in
what
matter
would
have
that
funding
gap
resolved
that
we
can
continue
on
with
the
environment.
L
Yeah,
so
the
environmental
is
depending
on
the
fiscal
constraint,
then,
because
we
would
need
a
finding
of
no
significant
impact
by
the
texas
department
of
transportation
to
achieve
that,
and
that
would
need
the
fiscal.
The
project
would
need
to
be
fiscally
constrained
for
that
and
that
currently
it
still
is
not.
A
Because
there's
a
project
there
by
you
know
the
extension
there
that
goes
into
those
procedures.
Is
that
something
that's
tied
to
the
other
project
that
you're
doing?
I
wouldn't
think
so,
but
there's
a
lot
of
movement
there
of
earth
a
dirt.
It
looks
like
a
drainage
not
connected.
L
To
you
all,
not
that
I'm
aware
of
mr
mayor
the
limits
of
our
project
with
that
we're
working
with
the
considerable
rate
on
the
drainage
for
gone.
L
It
does
start
from
patrols
on
the
east
side
of
cuatrogenos
and
it
extends
close
to
a
mile
past
concord
hills
up
to
broadwood
street
and
stops
there.
There
is
a
major
drainage
crossing
in
that
just
east
of
that,
but
we
are
not
getting
into
that
floodplain
with
the
project.
L
Well,
that's
the
good
thing
about
it.
We
would
basically
restart
off
or
we'd
have
to
re
reevaluate
what
we
actually
did
with
the
archaeological
and
the
antiquities
permit,
and
then
we
would
move
forward
with
the
noise
analysis
which
we
can
do
as
well.
Now,
with
the
completed
traffic
study
that
was
done
at
the
end
of
last
year.
L
We
also
do
have
now
a
good
payment
design
as
well
at
the
current
estimate,
we're
still
thinking
about
from
a
conservative
perspective,
it's
looking
at
about
a
12-month
turnaround
and
we
would
hope
we
could
do
it
faster.
But
that's
just
a
conservative
estimate
of
time.
L
Just
one
last
update,
mr
mayor,
we
do
have
our
board
meeting
scheduled
for
this
week
on
the
19th
or
wednesday,
and
I
believe
I've
invited
everyone
in
the
policy
committee
to
that.
If
you
can
attend,
of
course,
it
would
be
virtual
via
webex.
If
you
have
not
received
an
invite,
please
let
me
know
and
I'll
be
happy
to
to
forward
it.
A
A
Okay
and
myself
as
well,
but
that's
standard,
okay,
then
directors
comments.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
comments
and
report
now
going
to
director's
comments.
F
A
F
First,
I'd
like
to
say
that
my
original
plan
was
to
it
was
a
five-year
plan
here
in
laredo
and
then
to
re-evaluate
after
that,
but
due
to
some
personal
family
circumstances
which
which
happened
quite
recently,
that's
that's
all
changed
and
for
a
long
time
I
put
my
career
first,
which
has
allowed
me
to
gain
a
lot
of
experience,
work
a
lot
of
different
places,
but
it's
also
had
a
cost
that
that,
at
this
juncture
I
need
to
make
a
different
decision
and
one
that
I
believe,
is
the
correct
one.
F
With
that
said
from
the
beginning,
one
of
my
main
objectives
I
wanted
to
accomplish
with
this
npo
was
to
guide
him
to
become
an
independent
npo.
F
So
I
want
to
apologize
to
to
mr
ease
and
mr
rhea
that,
yes,
maybe
this
was
sudden
and
only
that
we've
been
talking
about
it
for
a
while,
but
I
wanted
to
bring
it
before.
I
left,
because
this
is
important
to
me,
so
we
did
put
together
a
plan
and,
and
that
will
allow
you
to
take
the
necessary
steps
in
the
future.
F
But
it
has
been
something
we've
been
talking
about
is
something
very
important.
You've
been
asking
for
it's
very
important
to
me,
so
I
just
want
to
reiterate.
I
I
have
all
respect
for
mr
me
and
mr
eats,
I
think
they're,
two
of
the
best
city
managers
I've
worked
with,
and
I
do
hope
that
mr
needs
that
mayor
that
you
get
him
a
contract,
a
multi-year
contract,
because
I
know
he
can
do
a
fantastic
job
with
the
city
and
for
the
city.
F
If
you
allow
him
to
do
that,
if
you
allow
him
to
take
the
reins
and
guide
the
scene,
it's
been
a
pleasure
to
work
with
them
both,
and
it's
also
been
a
pleasure
to
be
both
the
planning
director
and
the
npo
director,
and
I
have
all
faith
that
that
mr
mendive
is
going
to
do
a
fantastic
job
for
you.
He
is
the
mpo
director
you
need.
I
believe
you
want
somebody
who
can
work
with
everybody,
someone
who's
not
connected
in
any
way.
F
Someone
is
just
going
to
do
a
great
job
and
I
know
he's
going
to
do
that
and
then.
Finally,
just
on
a
personal
note,
I
have
loved
living
in
laredo.
You
know
if
you
recall
from
the
beginning
one
thing
I
I
always
enjoyed
saying:
was
you
get
here?
The
first
thing
everyone
tells
you
is
it's
really
hot
here
you
know.
Are
you
prepared
and
I
always
like
to
say
from
east
texas,
it
gets
hotter
there,
and
so
it
has.
K
F
Hot,
it
has
been
very
hot,
but
it's
also
been
very
fun
very
exciting.
There
are
people
here,
you
won't
find
anywhere
else.
Laredo
ones
are
so
unique,
being
part
of
two
cultures
and
the
pride
that
they
have
and
where
they're
from
you
know,
you
can
go
places
where
maybe
they've
got
some
pretty
mountains
or
maybe
the
weather
is
great
a
lot
of
the
year
and
there's
people
from
everywhere
there.
F
A
Yes,
thank
you
so
much
for
those
kind
words
and
mr
steinberg
yeah.
On
my
end,
I've
expressed
my
mind,
the
value
that
I
see
and
saw
initially
and
you
as
well
various
times
but
again,
thank
you
for
all
the
you
know
the
help
that
you
provided
the
guidance
that
you've
given
us
as
well
as
you
can
tell
it's
not
easy,
you
know
being
a
director
or
dealing
with
with
the
governmental.
A
You
know,
entities
and,
of
course
you
you
know
you,
you
know
we
we
saw
this
today
too,
but
it
you
know
it's
nothing
personal,
at
least
not
from
my
venezuela.
A
You
know
this
is
you
know
we
need
to
express
what
we
need
to
express
at
the
time,
because
we
are
public
servants
and
we
have
to
be
transparent
and
open
and
sometimes
that
transparency
translates
into
you
know,
possibly
words
that
we
don't
necessarily
like
to
hear.
But
that's
that's
public
service,
and
I
know
I
I
hear
them
all
the
time
for
and
against
and
and
that's
what
public
servants
do
and
and
take
for
the
most
part.
A
So
anyway,
I
I
appreciate
your
your
willingness,
your
your
abilities
and-
and
we
wish
you
well
god,
speak
to
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
G
Mayor
can
I
comment
just
well
kirby.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
didn't
get
to
work
with
you
long
enough.
I
just
got
here
and
you're
leaving,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
you
for
taking
my
calls
and
my
numerous
questions.
I
know
I've.
G
I've
talked
your
ear
off
and
I've
asked
you
so
many
questions
in
the
short
period
of
time
that
I've
worked
with
you,
but
you've
always
been
so
willing
to
answer
them
and
whether
it's
not
the
answer
I
want
to
hear
you'll
still
give
me
that
answer,
and
I
appreciate
that
it's
not
easy
to
be
that
kind
of
person
that
doesn't,
you
know
just
tell
people
what
they
want
to
hear,
and
sometimes
it's
for
our
own
better
benefit
to
hear
that.
G
Maybe
what
we
were
thinking
wasn't
the
right
thing
or
we
were
looking
at
things
wrong
or
we
didn't
understand
something,
and
so
you
know
you're
always
have
a
very
positive
demeanor
about
explaining
things,
and
you
know
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
professionalism
and
your
courtesy
and
your
caring
and
loving
laredo,
and
you
know
I
really
feel
like
you
did
embrace
the
city
and
you
did
take
something.
You're
gonna
take
something
away
with
you,
and
so
I
just
wanna
thank
you
and
anytime.
G
You
wanna
come
back
the
doors
you
know
like
were
the
cities
always
were
here,
and
you
know
whether
whether
or
not
there's
a
vacancy
or
not
is
up
to
management
and
all
that.
But
you
know
definitely,
you
know
you're
welcome
from
a
friend's
standpoint.
You
know
you've
become
like
family
here.
You've
lived
here
long
enough
that
you're
like
family,
and
so
you
know
just
laredo-
is
always
going
to
be
a
place
that
that
you
can
feel
welcome
at
so.
Thank
you
so
much
again.
Thank
you.
A
Yes,
thank
you
for
those
comments.
Anyone
else
and
if
not
this,
should
conclude
our
meeting
yeah.
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
adjourn.