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Planning and Zoning Committee Meeting 012022
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A
A
B
Yes,
sir,
mr
chairman,
you
would
ask
that
that
we
had
a
typo
we'd
like
to
see
if
we
can
table
the
the
action
to
approve
the
minutes
until
the
next
meeting.
That's.
A
C
A
All
right
moving
into
public
hearings,
first
public
hearing
is
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
of
laredo
by
reasoning
log
one
part
of
lot:
two
block
1696
eastern
division
located
at
2801,
east
mustard,
mustard,
I'm
sorry
from
r3
to
b1
all
right.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record.
We
have
the
application
property
location
lot,
one
and
part
of
lot
two
block
1696
eastern
division
located
at
2801
eastern
muslim
street.
Don't
change
requests
r3
to
b1,
propose
use
daycare
better,
sent
23
or
none
against
none.
D
A
E
G
B
At
the
moment,
no
sir,
okay
for
reference,
mr
chairman,
I
believe
this
was
at
one
time
a
doctor's
office.
What
the
city
it
was
a
city
doctor
or
something
of
that
nature
back
in
the
day,
yeah.
B
G
Right
can
we
put
up
the
zoning
map
again
for
this
area?
I
just
want
to
see
where
the,
where
the
any
other
additional
b
ones
are
in
this
area
and
then.
A
B
G
If
you
see
there,
I
think
the
next
b1
is
up
on
clark
boulevard.
If
you
can
kind
of
zoom
in
on
the
north
side
of
the
map
there,
and
then
the
other
b1
would
be
next
to
what
is
lamar
middle
school,
which
is
the
gas
station.
So
both
those
b1s
right
now
are
gas
stations.
I
would
I'm
assuming
so
it's
pretty
fairly
dense
in
in
in
r3
and
right
across
this
property.
G
I
believe
it's
it's
r1,
so
I
don't
know
if
staff
considered,
maybe
a
conditioning
use
permit
for
the
area
just
because
of
the
parking,
because
the
concern
is
parking
and
then
I
think
the
overflow
of
parking
will
probably
go
into
the
church
across
this
property,
because
I
think
it's
a
it's
an
abandon.
It's
no
longer
there
right.
I
think
the
church
across
the
street
is
in
that
area.
I
B
Comprehensive
plan
that
we
have
there
was
there's
there's
a
calling
for
more
walkability,
more
services
to
the
neighborhood.
I
G
I
I
J
Agree
with
commissioner
varun,
except
that
we're
going
one
step
higher
than
the
r3
and
the
the
daycare
usually
will
not
take
a
lot
of
parking
because
they
they
actually
they
in
and
out.
Yes,
they
actually
take
care
of
the
cave,
they
drop
them
and
then
they
leave.
I
believe
that
not
to
be
against
your
common
commissioner.
J
Comment
right,
but
I
feel
that
going
up
on
the
b1
it's
it's
appropriate,
because
if
we
were
to
go
on
b3
or
before,
then
we
would
create
something
that
is
completely
separate.
That
might
impact
the
the
area
of
the
community.
But
I
think
a
b1
is
it's
a
it's
appropriate
at
this
time.
The
only.
G
Concern
is,
is
the
amount
of
space
for,
for
I
know
I
understand
for
a
daycare.
It
works
well,
but
that's
why
I'm
saying
the
conditional
use
permit
would
work,
but
if
you
look
at
any
other
higher
intensity
type
of
a
development
if,
for
some
reason,
someday
that
happens
there,
which
is
either
I
don't
know
another
gas
station
or
a
tattoo
parlor
or
a
restaurant
or
whatever
it
may
be,
will
it
be
able
to
to
sustain
the
the
parking
and
for
that
area
that
that's
that's
the
other
thing
you
know,
I
think.
A
The
idea
is
is
based
on
whatever
the
business
is.
They
must
comply
with
the
minimum
requirements.
You
know
of
the
development
ordinance
right.
So
whatever
I
don't
know
what
the
minimum
requirement
is
for
this
particular
business.
I
don't
remember,
remember
right
off
top
my
head,
but
they
must
meet
those
requirements,
not.
B
The
other,
the
other
on
an
r3
r3s,
are
very
liberal
and
you
can
actually
put
mobile
homes
on
r3.
You
know
a
b1
is
more
controlled
in
the
in
the
use
that
you
could
use
there
on
an
rt
there's,
a
variety
of
uses
that
can
go
in
there
legally
right
and
so.
A
C
And
I'm
very
opposed
to
the
proposed
sony
change
from
an
r3
to
a
b1
at
2801
east
muster
street
about
15
to
20
years
ago.
The
first
attempt
to
change
the
zoning
of
this
designated
area
occurred.
My
neighbors,
my
mother,
and
I
opposed
this
change
back
then
again.
On
december
18
2014,
my
brother,
robert
and
I,
and,
along
with
other
neighbors,
start,
stood
here
to
fight
this
proposed
change.
C
C
C
Also,
if,
at
one
point
the
owners
decide
to
sell
this
property
and
it
has
been
designated
to
be
one
zone
area,
multiple
types
of
businesses
can
be
established
here.
I
have
seen
the
list
of
permitted
uses
of
businesses
that
can
be
established
in
the
b1
zoned
area
from
the
city
of
laredo
land
development
code
book.
These
types
of
businesses
would
impact
the
homes
surrounding
this
area,
more
traffic,
more
vehicles,
unsightliness
and
loss
of
curb
appeal.
C
Without
a
doubt,
this
proposed
change
will
definitely
lead
to
the
degradation
and
integrity
of
the
residential
area
in
the
heights
area.
I
do
not
want
my
property
or
the
properties
of
other
homeowners
in
this
area
to
lose
value
or,
on
the
other
hand,
to
have
a
higher
taxing
rate.
I'm
either
willing
to
have
the
value
of
my
property
go
down,
nor
am
I
nor
do
I
want
to
be
forced
out
of
a
home.
I've
lived
there
for
62
years
or
more,
because
someone
has
a
desire
to
change
the
makeup
of
his
own
area.
C
C
It
would
have
behooved
them
to
research
or
inquire
about
the
sony
status
prior
to
initiating
this
resolution
renovation.
They
had
been
renovating
this
property
over
the
course
of
several
months,
and
I
was
not
sure
of
what
the
intended
use
was
going
to
be
until
I
saw
the
van
there
until
I
see
I
saw
the
signage
going
up.
I
sincerely
hope
that
the
recommendation
of
the
city
of
laredo
planning
department
to
the
members
of
the
city
council
will
be
that
no
change
be
made
to
my
residential
area.
This
is
the
third
battle.
C
C
C
K
My
name
is,
I
live
in
27,
20
master
and
the
reason
that
I
have
posed
for
for
this
is
because
I
went
ahead,
and
I
I
gathered
information
from
my
neighbors
who
do
I
go
ahead
and
give
this
to
these
are
all?
Can
I
approach?
Yes
here
we
go.
This
is
all
the
different
papers
that
are
opposing
to
this.
K
Let
me
just
distribute
this,
give
you
a
and
also
the
other
reasons,
because
in
halloween
they
had
an
event
where
they
were
issuing
out
candies
to
the
children
and
a
lady
and
a
child
almost
got
run
over
because
of
the
congestion
of
the
traffic
so
like
as-
and
I
don't
know
how
you
all
are
going
to
approve
of
this
of
a
daycare.
But
I
know
how
the
traffic
is
by
our
our
area.
It
is
horrible.
Every
single
morning.
A
C
L
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
I
have
a
comment.
First
off.
I
just
want
to
understand
the
property
right
now.
K
L
K
Dr
pena
used
to
have
his
little
mess.
We
that's
another
situation
that
we
had
before
dr
pena
had
like
all
these
mentally
challenged.
People
and
those
mentally
challenged.
People
were
were
getting
treatment
there
and
they
would
escape
there
and
numerous
times
we
had
to
call
the
ambulance
and
we
had
to
call
police
and
all
that.
L
I
L
Have
how
many
units
is
already
operating
as
a
apartment?
Right
now
do
we
know.
E
L
So
I
guess
for
staff,
since
this
is
all
going
to
be
shared,
the
parking
situation
is
going
to
be
considering
the
already
apartment.
That's
there.
B
Children,
that's
going
to
be
a
building
department,
okay
issue
that
they'll
be
they'll,
be
looking
at
it,
the
parking
that
that
we
have
that
we
show
on
our
system,
it's
one
for
every
400
square
feet
and
the
drop-off
lane
needs
to
be
sufficient
for
three
cars
and.
L
L
I
G
E
E
L
So
with
right
now,
just
taking
that
as
that
face
value
19
with
the
apartment
unit,
does
it
to
me
it
sounds
like
there
might
actually
be
an
issue
with
the
parking
in
my
corrector.
B
I
J
Think
that
we're
bouncing
the
ball
around,
I
feel
that
maybe
the
owner
might
want
to
table
the
item
and
and
meet
with
staff
and
try
to
get
what
commissioner
barron
is
thinking
about.
A
conditional
use
permit
that
would
kind
of
speed
it
out
and
solve
it
for
her
and
for
the
residents
in
a
way
that
they
will
not
have
a
song
change.
But
the
lady
will
still
be
benefited
by
that
by
the
day
care,
and
we
will
limit
that
to
the
daycare.
A
Is
already
done?
Second,
you
have
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
aye,
aye
aye.
Thank
you
all
right.
Next
item
committing
the
zoning
ordinance
to
the
city
of
radio
by
rezoning
live
119
d
block
3
san
diego
southwest
antler
crossing
subdivision
phase,
five
located
at
9802
springfield
from
a
board
to
an
r2.
D
For
the
record,
we
have
the
applicant
jury
properties,
llc
owner
roberto,
ramirez,
applicant
representative
property
location,
flat,
119d
block
three
semiciro
southwest
angler
crossing
subdivision
phase.
Five
located
at
9802
springfield
avenue
zone
zone
change,
b4
to
r2
proposed
used
multifamily
letter
7
3,
none
for
none
against.
D
We
have
the
street
user.
A
M
Good
evening
mr
ramirez,
who
is
the
applicant
for
ray
properties
and
wasn't
not
able
to
attend
today,
my
name
is
lisa
maria
estrada
and
I'll,
be
representing
them
and
I'll
be
answering
the
questions
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge.
Okay,.
A
I
have
a
question
for
you:
the
proposed
apartments
that
you're
proposing
how
many
stories.
M
We
have
two
buildings,
one
of
them
is
a
three-story
building
and
the
other
one
is
a
two-story.
The
three-story,
I
believe,
will
have
the
elevator
included.
A
M
I'm
sorry
at
the
moment
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
your
question.
That
would
probably
be
a
question
for
mr
ramirez,
but,
like
I
mentioned
before,
he
was
not
able
to
assist
today.
A
And
so
obviously
I
mean
a
lot
of
the
residents
that
already
there
don't
know
this
is
coming
and
they
didn't
know
that
this
was
coming
before.
So
to
me,
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
as
terms
of
distance
from
property
line.
I
know
what
the
minimum
distance
is,
but
is
it
going
to
be
further
away?
Is
there
going
to
be
what
kind
of
a
buffer
well?
Are
they
going
to
use
just
because
of
an
existing
residential
r1?
Yes,.
M
We
do
not
want
to
create
anything,
that's
going
to
create
a
lot
of
traffic
or
for
them
to
be
a
lot
of
families
living
in
these
apartments,
we're
looking
to
create
between
20
to
25
at
the
most
they
were
looking
for
them
to
be
spacious
and
to
incorporate
for
them
to
be
pet
friendly.
So
we
are
looking
to
do
a
lot
of
green
space,
so
we
can
accommodate
if
we
do
have
to
make
sure
that
we
have
those.
We
meet
the
line
requirements
for
the
property
with
that
green
space
that
we
want
to
do.
M
A
B
M
Correct
yes,
yeah
and
it's
a
beautiful
neighborhood,
it's
a
developing
neighborhood
and
we
are
taking
in
consideration
all
the
all
of
that
and,
of
course,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
trying
to
create
another
option
for
smaller
families
to
be
able
to
live
in.
You
know
in
this
really
nice
neighborhood,
so
yeah.
Anybody.
A
J
J
Actually,
according
to
the
to
the
to
the
information
that
we
have,
I
would
like
before
I
would
vote
on
it
to
see
what
for
for
the
the
owner
and
developer
to
present
what
they're
gonna
build
on
it.
You're
correct.
We
had
a
lot
of
problems
in
that
area.
Actually,
some
of
the
of
the
land
along
springfield
has
not
been
developed
because
that
if
it
was
to
be
developed,
it
would
overlook
the
subdivision
on
the
side
and
steel
and
develop.
J
J
I
would
it's
small.
It's
a
small
area,
actually
the
what
you
have
it's
only
about
a
about
an
acre
and
a
half.
If
you're
going
to
go
ahead
and
look
where
you're
going
to
put
all
the
parkings,
you
have
no
other
choice
but
to
build
up
so
you're
right.
I
mean
what
they're
presenting
they're
saying
we're
going
through
the
story
yeah
because
they
have
a
problem
with
the
parking.
J
So
that
being
said,
I
personally
would
like
to
table
this
item
until
we
know,
or
we
get
something
up
to
what's
going
to
be
built
up,
not
that
we
stop
them
yeah
and
not
many
times.
I
say:
well,
it's
only
a
zone
change
see,
but
in
this
particular
case
it's
going
to
be
a
multi-family
if
it
was
to
be
like
10
acres,
I
wouldn't
mind
about
an
acre
and
a
half.
I
would
like
to
know
what's
going
to
happen,
there.
A
J
Right
so
that
being
said,
I
think
that
the
best
way
to
go
and
handle
this
song
change
is
to
actually
have
what
what
the
what
the
developer
wants
to
build
in
that
area.
That's
the
end
of
my
comment,
all
right,
mr
barron.
G
Yes,
sir,
it's
currently
a
b4
now.
Is
that
correct?
That's
correct!
So
I
mean
the
property
owners.
If
they
would
have
done
the
dual
diligence,
they
would
have
known
that
the
property
next
door
to
them
is
a
b4
now.
The
reason
this
has
changed
is
because
it
had
been
planned
out
for
something
totally
different
than
what
it
is
now.
Is
that
correct?
B
I
believe
we
also
have
next
to
it
the
b4
next
to
it
they're,
coming
in
with
a
a
complex
with
a
apartment,
complex
town
hall
or
condominium
condos
right
they're,
coming
with
condos
next
door.
G
B
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
I
understand
what
you're
saying
what
you
have
in
40
years
is
a
zone
case
right,
and
so,
if
the
the
action
to
be
taken
is
whether
to
approve
the
zone
or
not
approve
the
zone,
we
don't
in
the
application
process.
We
don't
ask
for
the
full
blown
design
plans
for
something.
G
J
All
right,
I'm
sorry.
L
M
Much
for
your
personal
can,
I
add,
just
a
comment.
Yes,
we
have
already
invested
a
lot
of
time
on
this
property
and
the
thinking
we
do
have
plans
already
already
available.
I
can
just
make
a
call
and
have
them
you
know,
email
to
me.
What
we
want
to
do
is
we
want
to
create
a
really
nice
and
enjoyable
neighborhood.
So
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
from
that.
M
We
know
that
it
takes
a
team
to
make
a
good
neighborhood
and
that's
like
they
mentioned
before,
on
the
reasoning
on
the
their
previous
zoning.
So
yes
we're
here
and
for
that
support
as
well.
Thank.
A
J
A
Okay,
so
the
motion
does
not
pass
either,
because
what
there's
five
you
need
for
the
motion
to
pass.
Is
this
a
plural?
All
you
need
five,
a
quorum
majority
or
a
majority
for
yourself
in
the
zone.
Change
passes
all
right.
Okay
zone
challenge
passes
all
right.
Okay.
The
next
item
is
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
raider
by
authorizing
the
issuance
of
the
special
use
department
for
a
restaurant
itself
and
alcohol
and
lot
one
block
1a
delwood
commercial
subdivision,
located
at
1001,
bristol
road.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
we
have
the
applicant
alberto
sanchez
owner
javiera,
diane
gonzalez
applicant
representative
property
location,
not
one
block.
1A
delwood
commercial
subdivision
located
at
10101,
bristol
road
zone
change,
special
use
permit
for
restaurant
serving
alcohol
proposed
use
restaurant
serving
alcohol
letter
cent
15
none
against
number
four.
D
N
A
N
N
N
N
N
J
J
Mr
sherman,
this
is
one
of
the
of
the
unique
situations
where
we
have
somebody
with
a
restaurant
unable
to
provide
services.
J
I
personally
feel
that
we
should
grant
it
and
then
he
can
deal
with
with
with
the
texas
alcohol
commission
if
he
doesn't
get
it
he
doesn't
get.
I
feel
that,
in
all
fairness,
we
should
provide
the
the
condition
use
permit
to
this
at
least
that's
the
way.
I
think.
Okay
and
then
you
can
deal
with
it
if
they
don't
give
them
the
license.
It's
up
to
them.
F
A
N
N
A
G
Had
a
quick
question,
mr
chairman,
for
staff,
I
had
a
question
go
right
ahead.
Just
if
this
were
a
v4
like
there
are
other
properties
near
the
vicinity
that
rb
force
would
he
be
able
to
sell
alcohol
here.
B
So
the
only
reason
that
the
the
ordinance
talks
about
the
distance
from
the
schooling
we're
not
here
to
judge
the
character
of
the
person
or
the
type
of
business.
We
I
mean,
I'm
sure,
he's
doing
a
very
good
job
right
and
and
it's
a
it's
a
nice
restaurant
everything's
working
well,
the
ordinance
is
what
it
is
near
near
the
school.
That's
all
we're
dealing
with
here.
I
B
Okay,
but
by
no
means
are
we
trying
to
you
know
characterize
this,
this
business
owner
as
as
doing
bad
business.
No,
I
think,
he's
doing
very
well
right.
G
J
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
the
special
department.
Mr
chairman,.
G
A
A
Next
item
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
of
writing
by
authorizing
the
issuance
of
a
condition
use
permit
for
an
auto
body
shop
in
the
southwest
half
of
lot
3
and
4,
and
also
being
partially
out
of
luck.
Two
and
three
block
36
eastern
division
located
at
1216,
logan
avenue
and
717
laredo
street.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
we
have
applicant
oscar
and
nada
sedna
owners
and
applicants,
property,
location,
south
one
half
of
lots,
three
and
four,
and
also
being
partially
out
of
that
two
and
three
block
36
eastern
division
located
at
1216,
logan
avenue
and
717
riverdale
street
zone
change
conditions
for
a
body
shop.
Suppose
you
see
a
paper
body
shop
letter
sent
24
one
against
none
for
location
view.
B
If
I
may,
mr
chairman,
before
you,
open
up
republican
just
a
little
a
little
history,
this
item
had
come
forward
to
this
commission
for
a
zone
change
to
before,
and
also
one
of
the
issues
was
that
the
land
was
not
big
enough,
but
at
that
meeting
the
applicant
mustafa
spoke
about
she
did
have
more
land.
So
that
was
one
thing
and
then
the
commission
asked
that
she
come
back
for
conditional
use,
permit
and
apply
for
her
condition,
which
she
has
she's
been
very
patient
with
us
and
what
she's
done.
B
I
think
I've
seen
her
there
several
times
at
the
office
so
but
she
did
come
back
with
all
the
paperwork.
So
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
update
of
how
I
figured
her
to
come.
A
O
O
Okay,
great
and
I've
submitted
all
my
applications.
I've
submitted
floor
plans
site
plans
for
what
we
want
to
do.
I
don't
know,
if
do
I.
O
It's
going
to
be
everything
will
be
state
of
the
art
we
will
be
in,
I
think,
enhancing
our
district,
our
oh
community,
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
whole
thing
yeah
the
district,
the
community,
we
will
be
hiring
people.
Of
course
we
will
be
hiring,
of
course,
people
from
here
from
laredo,
so
we
will
be
generating
jobs
and
I
think
the
property
we
have
a
b4
right
across
the
street
and
right
right
next
to
us.
O
O
I
hope
everything
is
coming
out
there.
I
don't
know,
and-
and
like
I
said
it's
it,
I
personally
think
it's
going
to
be
great,
like
I
said,
for
the
community
for
generating
jobs,
starting
with
the
construction
and
then
with
with
the
hiring
of
the
personnel,
and
also,
I
think
it's
gonna
look
very
nice.
O
The
neighborhood
would
look
a
lot
better
and,
like
I
said
we
do
have
the
the
before
right
across
the
street
and
right
next
to
us
and
this
oh
well,
I
don't
know
if
you
need
to
see
this,
but
this
is
like
the
the
elevations,
and
this
is
like
three
three
of
the
frontal
views
that
I'm
not
sure
which
one
we
would.
O
J
F
Real
quick
before
you
go
and
sit.
What
do
you
have
label
as
a
new
building?
That's
going
to
be
enclosed
right.
All
the
repairs
are
going
to
happen
inside
of
this.
O
J
A
Right,
so
I
don't,
I
think,
under
under
your
design,
your
paint
shop
meets
all
the
epa
requirements.
Yes,
is
that
correct?
Oh
of
course,
yeah?
Because
that's
that's
part
of
the
rule
that
you're
right.
Of
course
everybody
in
the
past
did
not
have
the
filtering
system
required
on
the
paints,
and
that
was
causing
a
problem
in
other
areas.
I
remember
having
to
deal
with
several
of
those.
O
A
A
B
All
right,
just
one
last
comment:
if
you
were
to
look
at
the
comments
comment,
number
12,
we
wrote
in
their
owner
shall
comply
with
all
building
fire
and
safety
code
regulations.
That's
required.
A
A
Those
against
motion
carries.
Thank
you
all
right.
The
next
item
is
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
director
by
authorizing
the
issues
of
the
condition
of
this
permit
for
a
car
lot
on
approximately
1.01
acres
of
land
being
out
of
a
porcion,
a
1.418.65
acre
track
conveyed
onto
troutman
investment
properties,
and
this
is
situated
at
international
boulevard
and
east
by
pearson.
Road.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
we
have
chartman
investment
properties,
owner
patricio,
canavati,
applicant
representative
property
location,
approximately
1.1.01,
acre
track
of
land
located
north
of
international
boulevard
and
east
of
mcpherson
road.
You
have
his
own
change
request
for
conditional
use
permit
for
car
lot
proposed
use
cop
for
car
lot
letter
sent
24
1
against
9
4.
A
B
One
note
rig
varial
represents
this.
The
engineer
represents
us.
He
is
quarantined
at
home
at
the
moment,
so
he
did
call
in
earlier
today
to
say
that
he
he
understands
that
you
like
to
see
him
here,
but
he
was
just
having
problems.
There's
any
questions.
I
can
call
him
on
his
cell
phone
he's
available
for
any
questions.
If
you
have
any
questions
for
the
engineer.
Okay,
this
is
a
public.
A
G
Mr
chairman,
I
do
have
a
question
here.
Yes,
I
don't
see
hours
of
operation
as
far
as
here
I
know
the
school's
right
next
to
this
establishment.
So
I
don't
know
how
much
traffic
this
this
business
is
going
to
generate.
G
But
I
know
their
current
hours
are
operation
for
this
type
of
business
or
this
business
if
it's
the
same
owner
as
the
one
on
saunders,
is
9
30
to
like
seven
or
eight
or
something
which
is
okay,
because
it
starts
off
a
little
bit
later
in
the
day,
and
it
allows
that
morning
traffic
to
get
through.
I
don't
know
if
the
applicant
would
have
had
an
issue
with
with
the
hours
of
operation
for
as
a
condition
since
it's
already
those
hours
that
he
that
he
that
he
does.
G
G
And
then
I,
the
other
question
was,
I
know
we
have
signage,
is
limited
to
that
allowed
in
a
beat
through
in
a
b3
or
yeah.
So
it's
currently
b1.
What's
the
I'm
just
my
question
is:
what's
the
difference
between
b1
and
b3
signage
that
that
they
wouldn't
would
be
able
to
stay
with
the
b1
signage
and
be
okay
with
it,
or
do
they
really
want
the
b3
signage
or
how
big
of
a
change
is
that.
B
It
goes
by
the
the
width
of
the
the
property
there's
a
measurement
to
it,
but
you
could
we
could
I've
noticed,
there's
a
trend
up
there
for
monument
signs,
so
that
can
be
something
to
put
on.
If
you
look
down
the
street,
you
see
that
signs
are
much
lower
in
that
particular
area.
G
That,
maybe
the
sign
is
a
little
bit
lower
just
because
of
that
again
because
of
the
school
next
to
it
is
the
concern
there,
with
signage
kind
of
overbearing,
the
ability
to
get
into
this
campus.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
the
commission
would
like
to
consider
really
it
was.
It
was
on
the
signage
and
the
hours
of
operation
as
well.
J
A
Agree,
I
think
so
too
I
mean,
I
think,
most
of
these
car
lots
usually
open
up
about
what
nine
o'clock
ten
o'clock
nine.
G
A
A
A
I
don't
see
an
issue
with
that
either
because
I
mean
obviously
there's
a
site
distance
between
signage
that
has
to
be
taken
into
account
and
that
is
determined
by
the
building
department
bring
in
plans
for,
for
they
have
to
comply
with.
You,
don't
have
to
comply
with
all
the
distance
requirements
and
everything,
okay,
all
right.
So
what.
G
Are
the
wishes,
I'm
sorry
one
more
question,
or
did
they
mention
anything
about
customer
parking?
For
I
know
it's
a
car
lot,
so
they
have
so
many
spaces
for
their
cars,
but
how
much
is
designated
for
customers
to
park
just
because
you
don't
want
any
spillage.
I
mean
there's
not
really
anywhere
to
park
other
than
inside
that
lot.
G
A
A
A
A
J
G
Motion
to
approve
all
right
with
the
addition
of
the
time.
Yes,.
J
The
hours
of
operation
with
the
addition
of
the
hours
operation,
as
stated
by
commissioner,
all
right,
which.
G
Was
I
think
it
was
9
30
to
8
o'clock?
Okay,
that
is
correct.
A
All
right
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
preliminary
consideration
of
the
following
preliminary
plan:
preliminary
consideration
of
the
replant
of
lot
eight
and
the
west.
One
third
of
lot:
seven
block
386
eastern
division
located
at
I'm
sorry,
division
into
lot;
8a
block,
386,
eastern
division,
the
antennas
residential.
P
I
P
Veronica
engineers,
jewelry
engineering,
ricardo,
la
ramos
proposed
uses
residential
and
the
zoning
for
this
one
lab
development
is
r3.
B
All
right,
mr
chairman,
just
for
for
the
record,
I
know
that
the
last
meeting
there
was
a
lot
of
frustration
as
far
as
whether
we
would
have
representation
here
from
the
city,
and
that
was
a
request
you
had
made
as
a
as
a
group.
He
made
that
request
that
was
taken
to
the
city
manager
and
I'd
like
I'm
happy
to
say
that
with
us
today
we
have
engineering
traffic
and
our
utilities
department
directors
in
the
audience
today,
and
they
do
support
the
idea
of
being
here
right.
B
A
Well,
you
know,
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
thank
you
like
what
he
says
to
us.
It
was
very
important
because
a
lot
of
times
we
have
lights
coming
forward
and
an
engineer
is
challenging
what
your
department
is
is
stating
and
we
have
no
way
of
knowing
whether
what
he's
telling
us
and
what
you
guys
are
stating
you
know
we
needed
somebody
to
give
us
some
guidance,
so
we
did
make
that
request
of
the
city
manager.
A
I
talked
to
the
city
manager
myself
because
there
are
items
that
come
up
and
we
need
guidance
from
the
department
directors
who
are
better
suited
to
be
able
to
guide
us
when
there
is
a
conflict
between
the
engineer
and
your
comments.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
for
coming,
because
we
are
trying
to
do
our
best
to
approve
something
that
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
community
and
without
your
technical
knowledge
and
expertise
it
becomes
a
little
harder
for
us.
A
So
thank
you
with
that
being
said.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
on
this
particular
item?
All
right?
If
not,
what
are
the
wishes
of
the
commission.
A
Motion
carries
the
next
item
is
the
preliminary
consideration
of
the
plaid
of
ektor
adame
and
the
granting
of
a
variance
with
a
lot
width
from
46
to
35
and
the
lot
size
from
6
000
square
feet
to
5
800.
The
antenna
is
residential.
P
A
I
have
one
question
for
you:
I
know
that
the
way
you're
presenting
the
plan
is
a
35-foot
frontage.
H
Yes,
if
you
can
see
basically
the
the
the
the
same
scenario
is,
I
guess
happening
on
the
on
the
adjacent
properties.
They
sold
all
these
properties
with
a
35-foot
windage.
So
when
my
client
came
up-
and
I
told
him
well-
we
can't
do
this.
I
said
I
don't
know
you
can
build
a
house
in
this
in
this
lot,
but
he
did
show
me
a
plan
that
that
he
can
actually
build
a
residential
lot.
I
mean
house
in
this
lot,
so
with
that
I
know
it
was.
H
I
G
Yeah,
I
had
a
question
I
know
if
I
know
when
I
saw
this,
I
was
trying
to
see
what
other
zones
this
lot
could
possibly
fit
right.
So
you
would
think,
maybe
because
of
the
square
footage,
but
that
would
be
an
r1a,
but
the
difficult
part
of
this
lot
is
meeting
the
lot
with,
but
an
r1v
would
work,
but
that's
only
for
new
development
right.
So
that's
why
we
couldn't
recommend
the
r1b
at
this
point,
so
it's
either
well.
A
G
And
currently,
because
it
doesn't
meet
the
requirements
of
of
of
the
pla
of
the
zone
right
right,
it
has
to
meet
the
certain
way.
It
is
a
variance
right.
It
needs
this
variance,
which
we
can.
We
can
do
right,
yeah
yeah,
but
if
r1bs
were
allowed
other
than
a
new
developments
that
could
be
con,
he
wouldn't
meet
this.
A
G
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
the
the
the
plot
with
the
variance
okay.
A
P
A
Right,
do
we
have
a
motion
for
approval.