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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting 091522
A
E
B
G
A
H
All
righty,
by
way
of
background
on
august
21st,
the
city
council
directed
staff
to
develop
an
ordinance
amendment
intending
to
reduce
off-street
parking
requirements
for
uses
located
within
the
saint
peter's
historic
district.
The
purpose
of
the
amendment
is
to
exempt
the
saint
peter
sorry.
The
the
purpose
of
the
amendment
is
to
exempt
the
saint
peter's
historic
district
from
off-street
parking
requirements
as
contained
in
the
lorena
land
development
code,
section
24-78.
H
H
H
Moving
on
to
specific
use,
zoning
overlay
districts
again,
those
the
rules
regarding
the
overlay
districts
are
captured
in
24.62.4
they're,
intended
to
promote
development
or
redevelopment
they're,
generally
more
restrictive,
they're,
subject
to
additional
performance
standards,
and
there
are
currently
nine
specific
use.
Zoning
overlay
districts
of
which
the
historic
districts
are
among
them.
H
Historic
districts
are
overlay
zones
which
have
requirements
in
addition
to
the
underlying
zone
that
you
know,
thereby
we
can
see
that
they're
a
little
bit
can
be
more
restrictive.
The
purpose
for
our
historic
district
is
to
promote
preservation,
restoration
and
rehabilitation
of
our
historic
resources.
H
H
H
The
sort
of
the
pinkish
area
is
arts
and
entertainment
district
and
that
sort
of
lighter
pink
area
to
the
side,
that's
basically
all
residential
office
and
then
they're
bounded
you'll
see
the
boundaries
there
indicated
in
yellow
green
and
purple
again
a
little
bit
hard
to
see.
But
those
are
the
you'll
see
the
boundaries
of
the
overlay.
H
H
And
here
we
get
to
the
parking
regulations.
Parking
requirements
are
located
in
section
2478
of
the
land
development
code
in
general.
The
parking
requirements
are
based
on
the
underlying
zone
and
the
type
of
land
use.
So
that's
how
you
go
about
figuring
out
how
much
parking
you're
required
to
provide
as
an
example
for
general
retail.
The
code
requires
one
parking
space
for
every
200
square
feet.
H
The
code
does
provide
that
if
offstring
parking
is
provided
in
those
districts,
then
the
those
parking
spaces
need
to
be
constructed,
as
required
in
the
code
with
regard
to
old,
mercado
and
san
agustin.
They
are
both
wholly
located
within
the
cbd
and
arts
and
entertainment
districts.
Therefore
they
are
enjoy
the
same
exemption,
so
they
are
exempt
from
the
parking
requirements.
As
stated
above,
the
proposed
ordinance
amendment
will
provide
the
saint
peter's
district
with
the
same
offshore
parking
exemptions
that
currently
apply
to
old
mercado
and
the
san
jose
historic
district.
H
What
you
have
before
you
is
the
proposed
change
and,
if
you
see
in
section
24-78.2,
which
identifies
the
exemptions
that
are
applied
to
all
of
those
districts,
we're
adding
the
verbiage
that
includes
the
saint
peter's.
Historic
district
will
now
be
afforded
the
same
exemptions
as
those
which
applied
to
the
central
business
and
the
arts
and
entertainment
district.
H
A
A
Okay,
I
have
some
questions.
Yes,
number
one
is
there's
three
different
types
of
historic
districts:
they're,
not
all
the
same:
the
saint
peter's
historic
district.
When
it
was
put
in
place,
it
was
put
in
place
primarily
to
save
the
quality
of
the
architectural
residential
houses.
Okay,
to
change
the
character
of
something
that
was
done.
A
A
H
A
A
You
know
to
comment
on
the
ordinance
where
I
would
have
thought
we
would
have
a
lot
of
residents.
If
I
guess
that
would
have
been.
You
know
a
town
hall
meeting
there
or
something
I
think
it
would
be
in
our
best
interest
to
the
community
at
this
point
to
have
the
historic
commission
review
this
thing
first,
because
they
are
the
ones
that
are
in
tune
with
historic
preservation.
B
The
residents
of
saint
peter's
district
were
really
not
for
the
cbd
zone,
change
right
right
so,
but
that
was
the
only
way
that
a
person
could
do
their
investment
and
not
have
to
put
parking
in
there.
So
what
we,
because
of
that
we
talked
to
the
councilwoman
talking
about,
said,
look
if
we,
if
we
can
adjust
the
saint
peter's
district's
parking
area,
they
won't
have
to
do
that
zone
change
to
interfere
with
the
housing
that
you're
talking
about,
and
they
can
still
do
something
in
the
residential
office
and
not
have
to
have
that
parking.
B
They
didn't
want
to
expand
the
cbd
zone
into
the
historic
district,
so
this
is
a
you
know
way
of
allowing
for
the
investments
to
happen,
but
to
protect
the
the
houses
in
the
st
peter's
district.
But
to
your
point
we
will
bring
this
to
the
historic
commission
just
so
that
they
can
see
what's
being
done
in
in
with
this
ordinance.
But,
yes,
it
was
brought
from
the
city
councilman
down
to
our
city
council
to
us,
but
the.
A
Proper
procedure
should
have
been
historic
district
first
and
then
the
planning
is
only
commissioned
because
you
do
want
to
get
their
input.
Just
just
and
I
understand
what
you're
telling
me
you
got
a
directive
and
I
get
that,
but
I
think
it
would
have
been
more
appropriate
to
go
historic,
district
commission
and
then
city
council.
That's
my
opinion
on
that.
H
Just
just
briefly,
I
just
like
to
add
that
this
is
very
strictly
in
line
with
our
comprehensive
plan.
It
does
talk
about
lifting
the
parking
requirements
in
our
residential
office
districts
and
our
historic
districts
in
order
to
encourage
renovation
and
rehabilitation
revitalization
of
those
areas.
So
this
is
in
line
with
our
comp
plan
and
also,
while
totally
agreeable,
happy
to
take
it
to
our
historic.
They,
don't
they
don't
review
parking
when
they
review
the
their
cases.
A
I
understand
what
you're
telling
me
does
not
require
most
of
the
areas
zoned,
either
residential
or
residential
office.
That's
correct
for
what
he's
talking
about
investments
now
you're
going
to
need
a
particular
zone
change
if
you
get
out
of
the
room
ro!
Is
that
very,
very
specific
when
it
was
put
in
place
in
that
district,
they
didn't
want
to
change
the
character
of
the
district.
They
said
we'll
allow
you
to
have
an
office
residential
office
type
situation.
A
H
E
E
E
The
way
the
ordnance
it
sounds
to
me
is
that
we're
tailoring
an
audience
for
someone
that
wants
to
do
investments
in
that
area,
particularly
for
business,
and
I
think
that
area
was
meant
to
be
residential
from
the
beginning,
and
the
idea
of
the
historical
commission
is
to
preserve
those
values
that
we
have
there.
This
does
not
preserve
the
balance.
Actually,
it's
opened
the
doors
to
start
tearing
down
the
district,
so
I
agree
with
you,
mr
chairman.
E
F
H
F
F
F
But
unfortunately,
I
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
the
folks
there
being
able
to
do
that
now,
whether
they
need
grants,
maybe
they
need
some
other
type
of
incentive
to
do
it,
because
what
they
have
now
is
not
working,
and
the
only
thing
that's
happening
in
that
area
is
that
it's
deteriorating
now.
Lisd
is
leaving
this
area.
Those
buildings
are
going
to
be
available,
and
the
only
thing
I
can
think
of
that
I
am
in
support
of.
Is
people
coming
in
trying
to
preserve
like
they're
supposed
to?
F
F
There's
a
few
properties
that
I
know
of
now
that
that
go
in
there
and
they've
done
a
great
job,
and
unfortunately,
these
are
the
only
folks
are
doing
there,
and
I
would
hope
that
the
current
property
owners
that
own
those
homes
would
be
able
to
have
more
incentive
than
just
a
tax
abatement,
and
that's
why
none
of
them
are
coming
in.
And
it's
going
to
be
tough
for
these
folks
to
to
improve
their
properties,
as
it
would
be
recommended
by
the
historic
board.
F
So
I'm
in
agreement
with
this,
I
think
it's
something
that's
needed
for
to
encourage
people
to
come
and
invest
their
money
here
in
this
area,
and
if
it's
something
that
we
can
help
someone
to
be
able
to
to
find
some
off-street
parking,
I
don't
think
it's
personally.
I
don't
think
it's
a
it's
it's
an
issue.
I
do
recommend
that
this
do
go
to
the
historic
board,
but
I
think
we
can
take
action
on
it
today
in
order
not
to
steal
the
process,
because
they
are
people
investing
in
this
area
to
help
beautify
the
era.
F
B
That's
right
and
then
and
anything
that
comes
to
the
historic
district
must
go
to
the
historic
board,
so
they
show
the
remodel.
They
show
the
type
of
materials
they're
going
to
use.
All
that
has
to
be
presented
to
the
historic
committee
and
they
review
that.
So,
even
if
it
is
for
a
coffee
shop
that
say
they
still
have
to
abide
by
the
historic
district
and
maintain
that
house
and
and
roxy
here
are
slaughtering
that
so
she's
in
charge
of
receiving
all
that
information.
B
A
A
A
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
we
have
the
applicant
hermelio
sierra
owner
representative,
the
property
location
lot,
three
block
1738
eastern
division
located
at
2815,
sacateca
street
and
2811
psychotica
street
zone.
Changes
from
a
b1
to
b4
proposed
use
is
event.
Rental
hall
letter
sent
is
was
29.
We
have
none
for
and
then
against
location
view.
A
B
J
For
the
record,
we
have
the
applicant,
and
we
have
pablo
manzano,
which
is
the
owner.
Property
location,
is
lot
12
block
304
western
division
located
at
1620
santa
maria
avenue
zone.
Changes
from
an
r3
to
b3
proposed
use
is
a
grocery
store.
Restaurant
letter
center
is
27..
We
have
none
for
and
then
against
location
view.
A
J
A
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
we
have
the
applicant's
km
development
ltd
owner.
We
have
radcliffe
killing
the
second
applicant.
We
have
rolando
ortiz,
representative
property
location,
it
is
approximately
1.32
acres
located
west
of
babula
group
and
south
of
room
for
more
way
zone
changes
from
an
r1
to
b4
purpose
uses
commercial
mini
storage.
Letter
sent
is
12..
We
have
none
for
and
none
against
location
view.
M
A
G
A
A
J
J
A
A
D
A
A
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
we
have
as
the
owner
applicant
property
location,
not
one
block
one
and
the
associates
llc
phase,
one
located
at
9110
mcpherson
road.
We
have
the
zone
change
request,
which
this
would
be
an
amendment
of
a
conditioning
permit
for
an
amusement
redemption
machine
establishment
proposed
use
is
amusement
redemption
machine
establishment
letter
sent
for
11..
We
have
none
for
and
none
against
location
view.
A
All
right
there's
only
one
thing
here:
this
is
a
b3
zone
right,
because
the
reason
that
that
particular
condition
wasn't
put
in
there
is
because
the
maquinitas
were
going
into
a
before,
so
that
clause
was
put
in
there
specifically
where
you
could
not
transfer
it,
because
it
doesn't
have
the
correct
zoning
for
you
to
try
to
do
that.
Right
now,
I
think,
is
against
the
ordinance
in
my
opinion,
but
we
have
our
legal
staff
here.
That
was
the
intent
for.
A
A
E
E
E
B
P
E
P
E
N
O
And
all
the
time
the
stock
was
recommended,
the
supporting
yes
and
the
council
may
never
be
accepted.
So
we
don't
know
I
mean
and
that's
the
only
one
they
the
councilman.
They
are
the
one
suggest
us
okay,
why
don't
we?
You
accept
the
cup
and
we
give
you
10
years.
It's
okay,
that's
fine!
I
mean
because
we
just
need
to
be
granted.
We
don't
care
about,
we
have
to
be
having
before
or
cup
or
what
and
that's
why
we
accept
it
and
it's
not
that
way.
E
I
can,
I
will
go
ahead
and
respond
with
sherman
from
the
this
board
was
created
to
create
a
community
that
that
actually
create
the
businesses
provided
by
the
sony.
Let's
see,
I
understand
that
you
have
a
building
and
you
want
to
rent
it
and
one
of
the
best
best
options
to
rent
that
building
is
for
machinitas,
but
your.
Q
N
E
We
cannot
go
and
dba
from
the
ordinance,
because
that's
the
reason
we're
here
we're
here,
mr
sherman
members,
to
to
create
it
to
to
make
sure
that
the
ordinances
are
are
in
place
and
and
that's
why
the
community
is
protected,
because
if
it's
a
v3,
then
let's
quiet
our
business.
There
is
a
b3.
There
see.
O
I
do
agree
with
you,
but
I'm
not
angry,
that
what
you're
saying
can
be
just
over
here
for
the
ordinance
I've
seen
so
many
people,
they
have
an
influence
and
they
apply
the
before
and
they
accept
it.
The
same
area
I
mean
it
is
have
several
area
in
the
mexican
there
is
several
building
is
a
before
and
after
after
me,
they
have
applied
it
and
they
get
accepted
and
because,
since
we
don't
have
an
influence,
so
we're
just
applying
and
we
just
get
denied.
I
C
H
However,
we
know
we
transfer
them.
Quite
often
we
transfer
cups
and
sups
all
the
time.
What
the
the
issue
is
is
that
we
don't
transfer
it
without
action
of
counsel
right
now,
in
this
case,
we're
processing
it
because
this
this
was
issued
prior
to
the
adoption
of
the
new
ordinance,
whereby
now
this
use
falls
into
our
legal
non-conforming
system.
How
do
you
interpret.
H
A
A
A
F
Mr
chairman,
I
don't
know
if
we
can
recommend
to
have
postponed
the
item
not
deny
or
or
postpone
it
have
legal
take
a
look
at
it
because
it
seems
like
we
have
two
different
sides
of
what
we're
trying
to
clarify
and
I
would
feel
more
comfortable
once
they
have
some
time
to
look
at.
It
have
a
legal
opinion
on
it.
If
it's
transferable
and
the
council
can
do
it
and
and
legal
says
it's
good
to
go,
then
we're
good
to
go
and
if
they
they
say
no,
they
still.
H
R
Yes,
yeah.
I
did
get
to
briefly
review
this
today,
but
I
mean,
if
you
all,
want
a
table
and
give
me
more
time,
that'd
be
great.
What
I'm
seeing
right
now
is
we
gotta
figure
out
what
transferability
means,
because
in
my
mind
I'm
thinking
you
know
a
contract.
This
is
not
assignable.
This
is
not
transferable.
A
E
The
motion
is
to
deny
the
motion
is
to
deny
base
on
on
what
we
have
in
front
of
us
right.
The
fact
that
the
the
previous
cup,
it's
it
reads,
cup-
shall
be
issued
to
anil,
gupta
and
jumping
lee
and
is
non-transferable
right.
I
mean
that's
the
fact
right
there
yeah.
So
if
we
go
beyond
that,
then
we're
opening
ourselves
for
somebody
else
to
come
here
and
and
and
mention
that
there
might
be
some
influence
in
discrimination
right.
A
F
I
If
I
may
add
to
that
motion,
if
legal
can
provide
us
a
memo
on-
and
I
would
like
further
to
just
even
interpret
this-
the
meaning
is
what
it
would
mean
for
other
people
and
for
seeing
other
cup
permit
holders
coming
to
change
something.
That's
just
a
tenant,
because
I
know
that
these
are
usually
issued
for
landowner.
The
owner.
S
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
applicant
is
roberto.
Jimenez
jr,
priscilla,
priscilla
trevino
is
the
applicant
in
the
representative.
The
property
location
is
lot.
Eight
block
2156
eastern
division
located
at
3102
woodster
street.
The
sound
change
requests
from
an
aeg
to
an
r3.
The
proposed
use
is
a
duplex
letter
sent
were
14
and
none
for
and
none
against
location
view
aerial,
wheel,
street
view.
S
G
A
All
those
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
signify
by
saying
hi
all
right:
those
against
motion
carriers.
The
next
night,
I'm
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
of
laredo
by
reasoning;
lot,
one
block,
14
language
subdivision
phase;
two
located
at
1610
concord,
hills,
boulevard
from
r1
to
r1a
and
to
b3.
S
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
application
investments,
llc,
loner
property
location
lot,
one
block
14
lago
de
vaya
subdivision
phase
two
located
at
1610
concord,
hills
boulevard.
This
one
teacher
quest
is
from
an
r1
and
r1a
to
a
b3.
The
purple's
used
in
is
mixed
use.
Applicant
did
not
identify.
The
specific
proposed
makes
use
letter
set
74
4
0
against
0.
S
T
Good
evening,
commissioner-
and
I
mean
chairman
and
commissioners,
this
piece
of
property
is
right
on
the
corner
of
the
newly
constructed
los
presidentes
boulevard
and
concord
hills.
It's
I
guess,
los
presidentes
is
a
hundred
foot.
Right-Of-Way
concours
hills
is,
is
an
80-foot
and
it's
a
platted
piece
of
property,
and
it
was
always
meant
to
be.
T
You
know
either
a
light
commercial
or
a
multi-family
once
that
area
got
developed
and
there
was
a
secondary
outlet
which
is
now
especially
dentist
and
we're
bringing
it
it
kind
of
was
prompted
by
the
city
asking
for
some
right-of-way
to
continue
concord
hills
all
the
way
to
the
new
sports
center.
So
we
figured
this
would
be
a
an
appropriate
zoning
for
for
this
intersection.
A
D
A
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
hi,
hi,
josie,
motion
carriers,
next
item,
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
order
by
resorting
approximately
two
point:
five:
three:
two:
nine
acres
located
in
twelve.
This
property
is
located:
east
of
old
milwaukee,
road
and
south
of
state
highway,
359
requested
from
r3
and
v4
to
v4.
S
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
application:
mesquite
land
development,
inc
owner
photo
science,
engineering,
applicant
and
representative
property
location,
approximately
2.53
to
9
acres,
located
east
of
old
milwaukee,
road
and
south
of
state
highway
359.
The
zone
change
request
is
from
an
r3
and
b4
to
a
b4.
The
proposed
use
is
commercial.
The
applicant
did
not
identify
the
specific
proposed
commercial
used
letter
sent
seven
four
zero
against
zero
location,
reel
aerial
view
great
wheel.
S
A
E
Make
a
real
comment:
real,
quick!
Yes,
sir,
it's
what's
your
names,
are
we
gonna
leave
the
the
land
that
is
behind
the
property?
Is
that
going
to
be
in
landlocked
or
do
we
have
enough
space
to
have
coming
in
the
next
item?
I
don't
know,
but
but
if
we're
we're
proving
this,
are
we
leaving
the
back
section?
Are
you
all.
A
S
For
the
record
applicant
is
the
ski
land
development,
inc
owner,
autism,
engineering,
applicant
and
representative
property
description,
approximately
27.449
acres,
located
east
of
old
milwaukee,
road
and
south
of
site
state
highway,
359
zone
2
request
is
from
an
r3
and
a
b4
to
an
r1b
proposed
use.
Is
residential
letter
sent
29
4
0
against
0.
S
U
E
Actually.
Is
that
creating
that?
Actually
it's
creating
a
a
hardship
for
them,
a
stress
for
them,
because
we
have
seen
a
lot
of
the
members
of
the
community
come
before
us,
mr
sherman,
and
mentioning
the
fact
that
that
the
front
is
is
either
too
narrow.
You
can't
easily
park
two
vehicles
in
front
of
it.
So
that
being
said,
one
of
my
questions
is:
what's
going
to
be
the
width
of
the
front
of
the
lungs.
T
G
T
T
M
G
T
T
Staff
had
mentioned
to
us
that
hey,
maybe
you
can
have
some
extra
parking
in
the
neighborhood.
We
saw
that
try
to
happen
in
concord,
hills
and
that
didn't
work
out
very
well.
So
we
figured
what
can
we
do
to
get
more
cars
on
the
same
live
so
we're
not
including
four
cars
on
the
actual
lot
itself,
not
including
garages?
So
if
there's
a
garage,
that's
two
extra
cars,
so
you'd
have
like
a
total
of
six
and
if
I
may,
I'd
like
to
put
a.
D
T
I
think
this
is
a
four-door
f250
and
I
think
these
are
camrys
which
are
the
same
length
as
like
a
four
runner
and
we
came
up
with
a
measurement
of
36
feet
inside
the
property
line,
so
your
driveway
actually
starts
like
the
sidewalk
is
here
these
four
feet
and
you
have
five
and
a
half
feet
to
the
property
line
of
driveway
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
we
have
36
foot
as
a
minimum
setback
to
any
house
here.
So
we
are
sacrificing
some
backyard,
but.
T
T
And
we'd
like
to
to
do
something
like
you
said,
we're
trying
to
provide
some
value
so
we'd
like
to
do
something
that
actually
doesn't
create
any
hardships
and
it's
actually.
I
wish
I
had
four
spaces
in
front
of
my
house,
which
I
don't,
but
we
figured.
I
had
a
chart
down
here,
which
is
kind
of
like
small,
get
a
larger
size,
and
this
goes
through
the
typical
like
a
typical
r1
or
even
an
r1a
property
and
compares
it
to
an
r1b
and
the
typical
s.
T
T
So
with
an
r1a,
you
would
be
forced
to
park
89
cars
in
the
street
just
because
at
two
and
a
half
I'm
assuming
two
and
a
half
cars
you
know,
on
average
and
in
our
subdivision,
we're
going
to
be
over
parked
by
320.,
so
they'll
be
for
sure
for
sure.
89
cars
in
an
r1a
over
here
they'll
be
zero
because
we'll
have
so
many
on
site
and
and
again
this
is
just
this
specific
neighborhood.
T
N
A
T
A
Okay,
who's
gonna
chicken,
first
out
sure,
which
is
pretty
much
standard
on
all
your
subdivisions.
I'm
not
going
to
just
say
it's
it's
in
all
subdivisions
right
now
and
that's
something
that
in
the
future,
you
need
to
look
at
because,
like
it's
like
you're
saying
you
know,
I
mean
you're,
you're
you're
accommodating
four
vehicles.
T
I
agree,
and
I
sat
through
the
last
meeting
when
the
engineering
or
the
city
engineer
representative,
was
kind
of
talking
to
that,
and
so
we
came
up
with
this
solution,
as
maybe
yeah
we'll
handle
all
the
traffic
on
on
every
site,
and
that
way
there's
no
need,
there's
no
other
subdivision.
That
would
have
this
depth.
If
you
go
through
even
big
houses
like
in
regency
or
delmar
c,
they
don't
go
back
36
feet.
T
T
E
The
length
of
a
vehicle,
yes,
which
is
about
20
feet
or
less
from
the
beginning
of
the
lot
to
the
beginning
of
the
driveway.
What
I
see
there
is
that
anybody
that
parks
in
front
of
the
property,
then
those
vehicles
are
not
going
to
go
out
and
even
though
the
logistics
are
are
nice
and
beautiful,
I
will
never
see
those
four
vehicles
there.
E
At
the
same
time,
chances
are
that
if
somebody
wants
to
move
the
vehicle,
that
is
right
in
front
you're,
gonna
back
up
the
vehicle
and
invade
overflowing
to
the
into
the
property
in
the
store.
So
what
I've
always
thought
is
that
that
we
need
to
create
a
space
where
one
of
the
vehicles
will
park
in
the
front
and
allow
the
logistics
of
the
movement
of
the
other
two
vehicles
in
the
driveway.
E
E
Well
we
have
a
vehicle
which
is
about
20
to
22
feet
from
the
from
the
from
the
edge
of
the
property
and
then
we're
going
to
have
the
the
driveway
the
driveway
for
2b
equals
on
the
minimum.
We
need
at
least
16
feet,
and
that
would
be
too
close
to
open
the
doors
here,
so
that
would
be
20
plus
16,
plus
the
space
that
we
need
to
leave
between
the
other
property
line.
So
that
would
be
about
three
or
four
feet:
we're
looking
at
roughly
about
40
42
feet.
Sure!
E
That's
what
I'm
looking
at,
that.
We
need
to
provide
for
the
development
without
creating
an
overflow
into
somebody
else's
room,
see
what
you
have
there
is
perfect,
but
if
we
would
would
create,
if
we
can
actually
bring
the
width
of
the
lodge
to
about
42
feet,
that
would
be
perfect,
you're
going
to
be
sacrificing
properties.
Definitely.
T
A
What
you've
got
up
there
you're
providing
parking
for
four
off
street?
Let's
face
it,
how
many
people
are
gonna
have
five
or
six
cars.
You
know.
Most
people
have
three
in
r1bs
because
it's
a
smaller
you
know
home
smaller
everything,
so
you'll
have
three.
Maybe
you'll
have
four,
but
I
think
with
what
you're
proposing
to
take
them
off
in
the
street
gives
options
to
minimize
some
of
these
headaches
that
have
been
going
on
and
because
of
the
cost
of
constructing
right
now
and
buying
a
house
it.
A
To
what
you've
heard.
That's
been
an
issue
with
the
r1b,
yes,
sir,
so
it's
it's
I
mean
commissioner
dominguez
makes
a
good
point,
but
unfortunately
everything's
about
cost
and
that
cost
transfers
over
to
whoever's
going
to
buy
the
property
and
right
now,
if
we
look
at
values
of
construction,
it's
very
difficult,
for
you
know
an
average
family
to
buy
a
house
I'll
make
a
quick
follow-up.
E
G
E
It
real
quick,
so
this
is
probably
going
to
be
approved
as
an
r1b.
I
don't.
I
don't
agree
with
that,
but
if
it
gets
approved
it
gets
approved,
but
keep
in
mind
that
whoever
is
buying
those
properties
are
the
ones
that
are
coming
here
before
us
and
the
first
thing
they
said
we
can't
even
get
out
of
a
driveway
and
that's
sad
for
them,
because
they
they
don't
have
any
choice,
they're
buying
it
because
they
have
any
choice.
T
The
the
economics
of
a
42
foot
wide
lot
and
a
35
foot
wide
lot
are
actually
the
same.
Their
net
net
is
is
the
same
thing.
You
know.
The
only
thing
that
differs
is
that
it
appears
that
we
get
some
more
lots
here,
but
you
have
to
charge
about
if,
if
you
don't
charge
about
16
to
18
percent,
if
you
have
to
charge
any
less,
no.
G
T
But
the
only
reason
we're
doing
these
is
because
the
underlying
zoning
is
an
r3
currently,
so
we
can
do
manufactured
homes
there.
We
can
do
apartments
there
homes
and
when
I
met
with
the
city
councilman,
he
asked
me
not
to
do
an
r3
subdivision
there.
He
says
that
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
investment
in
the
area,
a
lot
of
new
homes
being
built
and
he
kind
of
wanted
to
keep
the
same
thing,
but
also
an
affordability
factor.
T
T
A
U
A
So,
let's
just
stick
to
the
zoning.
You
still
have
to
come
in
with
your
plant
to
get
it
approved,
we're
just
going
to
talk
about
the
zoning
issue
right
now
and
that's
all
we're
going
to
do
yes,
their
development
on
how
you're
going
to
develop
it.
If
you
get
a
zone
change
approved,
is
then
up
to
you.
How
do
you
decide.
F
Can
I
ask
a
question,
though,
really
quick,
mr
salinas?
What
is
it,
what
is
the
percentage
of
folks
that
you'll
be
able
to
help
with
the
affordable
housing
if
you're
able
to
do
the
r1b
instead
of
an
r1a
like?
Would
you
know
more
or
less
if
you
have
to
guess
as
far
as
price
right
like
for
potential
for
potential
buyers,
I.
T
F
Now
my
only
thing
with
r1bs
as
far
as
zone
is
that
they
do.
They
do
get
the
the
brunt
end
of
the
parking
issues.
But
I
can
bet
money
that
I
can
find
a
few
r1as
that
they're
going
to
have
the
same
issues,
whether
there's
going
to
be
off-street
parking
or
people
parked
on
the
streets.
It
could
be
an
r1,
r1a
or
r1
r1b
as
far
as
the
zoning
air
here
that
we're
talking
about
I'd
like
to
see
why
staff
does
not
support
the
current
zone.
F
Duplexes
apartments
and
honestly,
I
don't
know
how
the
applicant
would
want
to
pretty
much
down
down
zone
from
from
the
opportunities
to
be
able
to
do
all
these
other
developments,
but
I'm
assuming
you're
working
with
our
community
and
our
city
to
be
able
to
provide
a
affordable
home
for
someone
to
be
able
to
to
have
access
to
rather
than
be
pushed
out,
based
on
the
interest
rates
that
you
just
mentioned.
Number
one
number
two.
F
The
comments
are
because
the
current
zone
designation
has
a
high
density
residential
park,
which
is,
I
mean,
I
believe,
there's
a
b4
that
they
we
just
recommended
to
approve.
Next
to
it,
I
believe
it's
an
r3
behind
this
property,
I
believe,
there's
200
vacant,
I
mean
200
acres
that
are
non-developed
and
next
to
to
this
development.
F
I
see
it's
more
of
a
mixed
development
to
the
I
would
say
to
the
west,
which
is
warehouses,
mobile
homes,
a
few
homes
so
which
leads
me
to
the
second
comment
which
was
staffed
and
not
approved,
because
it
has
a
negative
impact
in
the
surrounding
area
and
the
only
I
don't
see
why
a
rail
yard-
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
road
but
a
yard
next
to
it.
The
line
decker
yard
would
have
that
that
big
of
an
impact
on
an
r1b
development
or
the
property
south
to
it,
which
is
undeveloped.
B
Do
you
want
anything?
Yes,
mr
chair,
I've
spoke
to
the
mr
vote,
mr
salinas,
about
what
they
would
like
to
do.
I
like
the
fact
that
they're
you're
proactive
in
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
make
this
work,
and
I
don't
necessarily
disagree
with
with
their
concept
of
what
they
want
to
do.
My
my
only
problem
is
this
is
a
zone
case.
B
T
A
The
commission
members
also
look.
They
do
their
own
analysis.
Also,
okay,
some
of
us
have
30
40
years
experience
in
a
lot
of
areas
where
your
staff
doesn't
you'll
get
there.
I
mean
you
have
a
good
staff,
yeah,
very
good
people.
The
issue
right
now
before
us,
though,
is
a
zone
change
strictly
a
zone
change.
You
were
very
gracious
in
providing
a
lot
of
information
as
to
what
you're
proposing
to
do
to
some
of
the
questions
that
were
answered,
but
I
think
it's
time
for
now
to
move
on
with
this
thing.
A
E
A
We
have
a
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second?
Second?
Second
right
here,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
all
right.
Those
against
one
against
thank
you.
Ocean
carries
the
next
item,
many
of
these
only
known
as
the
city
later,
but
I'm
ending
ordinance
2016-0-0-80,
which
authorizes
a
special
use
permit
for
a
restaurant
serving
alcohol.
A
lot
5a
block
one
encino
plaza
subdivision
unit
2a
located
at
7518,
mcpherson
road,
suite,
5,
10.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
we
have
applicant
junction
partners,
inc
and
encino
plaza
ltd
owners
applicants.
We
have
premier
engineering,
armando
guerra
and
daniel
te
gerina
as
the
representatives
property
location,
not
5a
block
one
encino
plaza
subdivision
unit
2a
located
at
7518,
mcpherson
road
suite
510.
zone
change.
Request
is
this
is
for
an
amendment
of
a
specialist
permit
for
a
restaurant
serving
alcohol
proposed
use
is
for
a
restaurant.
Serving
alcohol
letter
sent
is
21..
A
Q
Q
Great
number
one
is
the
application
we
submitted
names,
cosmos
bar
and
grill,
and
encino
plaza
inc
as
a
new
entity.
It's
actually
incorrect.
The
correct
entity
is
coswos
bar
and
grill
encino
plaza
incorporated
without
the
end.
I'm
sorry
say
that
again,
so
so
the
the
application
basically
stated
cosmos,
barn,
grill
and
encino
plaza
inc
as
a
new
entity,
while
in
fact
the
correct
entity
is
cosmos
bar
and
grill,
encino
plaza
inc
without
the
end,
all
together
without.
Q
Q
Q
H
A
H
A
A
H
F
A
N
I
I
S
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
applicants
gateway
builders
ltd.
The
owners
is
the
applicant
property
locations.
Is
lots
one
two
three
four:
five:
six
seven
and
eight
block
1068
eastern
division
located
at
1320,
south
meadow
avenue
in
order
to
add
approximately
1.466
acres
as
further
described
and
attached,
exhibit
aim
north
of
the
existing
mini
storage.
S
S
X
A
V
V
A
C
H
Y
A
A
A
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
we
have
applicants,
lance
starr,
hotels,
laredo,
alonso
owner
howland
engineering
and
serving
company
as
applicant,
and
we
have
miguel
jimenez's
representative
property
location.
We
have
lots
one
two,
three,
four:
five:
six
seven
and
eight
block
1474
western
division
located
at
2410
santa
usa
avenue
don't
change
request,
is
a
special
use.
Permit
for
a
restaurant
serving
alcohol
proposed
use
is
a
restaurant
serving
alcohol
that
are
sent
we're
10
and
we
have
none
for
and
none
against
location
view.
J
W
A
A
We
have
a
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second
from
second
second
over
here
from
daniela
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
those
against
motion
carriers
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
of
laredo
by
rezoning
lot,
one
block
three
new
vision:
subdivision
phase
two
located
at
2405
grizzle
drive
from
r1
to
r2.
S
A
G
M
K
Good
evening
my
name
is
amy
perez,
I'm
also
against
it.
I
live
right
in
front
of
and
on
2404
gristle
drive.
I've
been
there
about
eight
years
going
yeah
eight
years.
I've
seen
the
way
this
this
area
has
grown
and
believe
me,
I'm
all
for
it,
but
I
feel
like
this
area
is
very
small
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
there's
been
several
accidents
within
the
last
couple
of
months.
It's
very
congested
now
and
I
feel
like
adding
apartment
complexes
aside
from
the
ones
that
we
already
have
towards
the
back
the
housing.
K
Eight
that
we
have,
I
feel
like
adding
more
apartments
to
this
area,
is
going
to
make
more
of
a
congestion.
That's
it's
a
two-way
street
people
are
always
going
super
fast
through
that
street,
so
adding
more
people
to
that
area.
I
have
two
little
boys
that
I
brought
with
me
and
it's
just
it's
difficult
to
have.
You
know
that
type
of
congestion
there
so
I'm
against
it.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
I
I
talked
to
traffic
about
this
to
see
if
there
was
a
proposed
traffic
light
in
the
future
or
anything
of
that
nature.
There
wasn't
really
an
update
most
of
these
streets
or
all
these
streets
dead
end,
so
they
don't
go
through.
They
did
it
on
both
sides,
all
the
way
up
and
down.
We
have
one
street
that
would
be
people
coming
out
of
alexander
and
turning
to
go
that's
further
to
the
north
and,
and
we
see
traffic
coming
out
of
there.
B
P
P
P
A
M
Yes,
sir
speaking
of
the
traffic
issue,
I
have
a
personal
situation
where
I
had.
I
lost
two
of
my
my
pets
on
that
street,
precisely
casa,
where
they
do
the
high
speed
traffic
on
that
road.
The
congestion
has
increased
over
the
years.
I've
been
there
about
five
years
and
the
traffic
is
going
from
worst
to
terrible,
and
we
also
are
looking
at
the
potential
impact
on
the
value
of
the
homes
that
are
in
that
area.
M
We
have
an
apartment,
complex
about
a
block
and
a
half
down
that
was
recently
built.
That
is
apparently
also
accepting
section
8
funding,
so
that's
creating
a
congestion
problem
and
he's
talking
about
using
a
residential
area
as
a
out
and
in
which
is
going
to
create
havoc
in
that
area.
I
think
further
study
needs
to
be
done.
D
K
D
G
A
Against
emotion
carries
all
right.
The
next
item
is
a
consideration
of
the
following
preliminary
flats
and
pulmonary
reflex.
Preliminary
consideration
of
the
plight
of
center
point
energy
city
gate
number
two,
and
the
granting
of
a
variance
in
water
connections,
landscaping,
requirements,
public
sewer
and
retention,
detention
facilities
for
natural
gas
valve
and
metering
station.
AA
AB
AB
AC
Hold
up
yes,
sir.
Thank
you
chairman
commissioners.
Thank
you.
My
name
is
swan.
Ludwig
of
cds,
murray,
I'm
one
of
the
engineers
of
record
working
with
centerpoint
energy.
We
don't
have
any
any
any
objections
with
respect
to
the
comments.
Basically,
this
is
a
half-acre
development.
It's
non-habitable!
It's
a
a
metering
valve
station.
AC
It's
not
going
to
require
any
type
of
sanitary
sewer,
water
facilities,
basically
constructed
out
of
flexible
base,
material
and
gravel,
not
going
to
generate
a
lot
of
runoff,
but
we
are
in
agreement
with
the
with
the
staff
recommendations
we'll
go
through
the
the
one,
stop
shop
facility
and
work
with
engineering
to
make
sure
that
this
is
an
established,
an
establishment,
that's
acceptable,
acceptable
to
the
engineering
department.
Okay,
all
right.
AC
A
AA
AD
My
name
is
ricardo
ramos
and
I'm
the
project
engineer
for
this
proposed
plat.
I
do
want
to
give
a
little
bit
of
history
on
this
that
this
plaque
came
about.
It
was
in
2020,
we
presented
it
to
the
board
and
I
got
approved.
We
proceeded
with
one
stop
shop
and
we
got
comments
and
we
pretty
much
clarified
the
comments
that
we
got
from
them.
AD
O
A
A
A
A
A
D
A
Yes,
all
those
in
favor
say
that
everybody
say
no
all
right.
Those
against
motion
carries.
The
next
item
is
preliminary
consideration
replay
of
block
2a
block
one
amended
laredo
area
arena
subdivision
unit
4
into
lots
two
b
and
c
block
one
radio
arena
subdivision
unit.
Four,
the
intent
is
commercial.
AA
A
AE
A
AE
A
AA
AB
AA
Z
C
C
If,
if
you
picture
cuatro
vientos
and
the
intersection
of
the
old
wormser
road
yeah,
you
follow
worms
or
road
to
the
east,
okay
and
there's
an
electrical
ap
substation
out
there.
So
this
is
immediately
to
the
north
of
it.
So
you're
looking
it's
a
bit
bitter
ways
in
the
etj,
but
it's
better
ways,
but
it's
a
better
ways:
okay,.
Z
I'm
only
one
comment
on
the
on
the
notes:
we
do
plan
to
file
a
variation
of
variance
that
is
on
the
access
easement
with
based
on
the
landowner's
preference,
and
it
will
be
a
non-non-housed
unit.
There
will
be
no
one
living
there
or
working
there,
so
we
hope
to
bring
it
down
to
30
feet
wide
with
the
30
feet,
paving
section
yeah
and
will
not
be
used
for
any
housing.
A
Z
A
Z
A
A
C
W
C
A
All
right
so
then,
the
variance
that
you're
looking
for
is
really
just
to
connect
into
connected
to
warm
surface,
which
is
it
yeah,
there's
really
going
to
be
coming
up
to
the
county
right
because
then
really,
the
county
is
going
to
want
us
they're
going
to
dictate
to
you
the
size
of
the
width
of
the
road
or
the
right
of
way
that
they
want.
That
is
correct.
All
they're
doing
here
is
just
saying
it's
a
compliance
issue
with
with
a
subdivision
ordinance
where
you
tie
into
worms,
so
that's
it.
A
A
G
A
A
A
AF
Mr
chairman,
for
the
record
eight
a
final
consideration
of
dutch
stanley
platt.
The
intent
is
commercial
aid
b;
final
consideration
of
the
replato
lot;
19
20
21
block
knot,
block
6,
intro
america,
distribution
park,
phase,
4
and
27.83
unplanted
acres
into
lot;
19a
lot,
21a
block
six
enter
america
distribution
park;
phase;
four,
the
intent
is
industrial,
approved,
eight
c
final
consideration
of
miguel
and
rodriguez
platt.
The
intent
is
commercial,
approved.
AF
A
final
reconsideration
of
plat
harmony
field,
subdivision
phase,
one
at
rodriguez
ranch,
the
intent
is
residential.
The
purpose
of
this
reconsideration
is
to
add
a
lot
for
mail
delivery.
Cluster
boxes
approved
tan,
a
consideration
of
model
subdivision
rule
compliance.
The
plot
of
ranch
subdivision
face
fives
the
intended
residential
approved
there.
You
go
awesome
motion
to
adjourn.