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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting 060123
A
B
C
Garcia
president
Mike
present
President
John
United
Way,
president
Wang.
D
B
E
B
Hearing
recognition
of
an
ordinance
for
the
voluntary
annexation,
initial
zoning
of
r1a
single-family,
reduced
area
District
on
a
track
of
land,
totaling,
367.99,
Acres,
more
or
less
as
described
by
meets
and
Bounds,
and
the
attach
exhibit
a
and
known
as
annexation
track.
One
down
two
track
located:
east
of
Quattro,
Vientos,
Boulevard
and
South
of
wormser.
F
Road,
yes,
Mr
chairman
for
the
record,
the
applicant
is
Family
Management.
The
engineer
of
record
is
support
of
science
engineering,
the
proposed
use
of
single
family
and
the
proposed
initialism
is
r1a.
There
were
12
letters
sent,
and
at
this
moment
we
have
zero
four
and
zero
against
General
location
street
view,
though
200
foot
notification,
aerial
view.
F
G
Let's
see
public
hearings
good
afternoon,
Mr
chairman
Wayne
supporters
engineering.
We
agree
with
with
with
this
thing,
moving
forward,
we,
we
did
speak
with
staff
earlier
about
section
two
Capital
Improvements,
there's
some
language
in
there
from
the
utilities
department.
That's
that's
vague
and
a
little
confusing
to
us,
but
we
will
be
meeting
with
with
staff
and
the
utilities
department
soon.
I
just
want
that
noted
for
the
records.
But
apart
from
that
we're
looking
forward
to
this
moving
forward
and
we're
here
to
answer
any
questions
we
might
have.
F
Just
for
I
want
to
put
information
for
for
the
commission
from
here.
It
will
be
going
to
the
excuse
me
for
it
to
cancel
multiple
times,
so
we
go
for
a
public
hearing
where
there'll
be
no
action
and
then
from
there
intro.
At
this
point,
just
recommendation.
B
B
I
make
a
motion
to
recommend
that
we
took
it
motion
a
second.
All
in
favor
motion
carries
moving
on
to
item
6B
public
hearing
recommendation
of
importance
for
the
voluntary
ionization
initial
zoning
of
M1
light
manufacturer
District
on
a
track
of
land
polling,
60.16,
Acres,
more
or
less,
as
described
by
meats
and
balance
in
the
attached
exhibit
a
and
known
as
an
annexation
track.
Two
skg
Columbia
one
track
located
north
of
State,
Highway,
255
and
west
of
FM
1472.
F
F
B
I'll
second,
that
motion
a
second
all
in
favor
aye
against
motion,
carries
moving
on
to
item
6c,
public
hearing
and
recommendation
of
an
ordinance
for
the
voluntary
annexation
initials
only
of
M1
light
manufacture,
District
Tommy,
tracker
land
holding
31.11
Acres
more
or
less
as
described
by
meets
and
Bounds
in
the
attached,
exhibit
a
and
known
as
annexation
track.
3
skg,
Columbia
2
track
located
south
of
State,
Highway,
255
and
west
of
FM
1472..
B
F
Was
chairman
for
the
record
the
application
skg
Columbia
South
LLC,
the
engineer
of
record
is
co-engineering.
The
proposed
uses,
light
industrial
and
the
proposed
initial
zone
for
this
development
is
M1
total
of
two
letters
sent
at
this
moment:
zero,
four
and
zero
against
location
view
or
general
location.
This
is
the
street
view.
K
F
B
B
Have
a
motion?
Second
wait.
A
second
all
in
favor
against
motion
carries
item
6D
public
hearing
recommendation
of
an
ordinance
for
the
voluntary
annexation.
Initial
zoning
of
M1,
light
manufacturer
District
on
a
track
of
land
toning
point,
0.058,
Acres,
more
or
less
as
described
by
meets
and
Bounds
in
the
attached,
exhibit
a
and
known
as
annexation
track.
4
navotrack
located
south
of
FM,
1472
and
west
of
Coal
Mine
Road.
F
This
was
chairman
for
the
record.
The
applicant
is
Rene
Nava.
The
engineer
of
record
is
spell
engineering.
The
proposed
use
industrial
and
the
proposed
Mission
designing
for
this
development
is
N1
total.
Eight
letters
were
sent
at
this
moment:
zero,
four
and
zero
against
General
location
street
view.
F
K
B
Motion
carries
moving
on
to
item
six
e
public
hearing
and
recommendation
of
an
ordinance
for
the
voluntary
annexation.
Initial
zoning
M1
light
manufacturing
District
on
a
track
of
land,
totaling,
303.02,
Acres,
more
or
less
as
described
by
meets
and
Bounds,
and
the
attached
exhibit
a
and
known
as
integration
track.
Five
need
more
Lotus
track
located
north
of
State,
Highway,
255
and
east
of
FM
1472.
F
Yes,
Mr
chairman
for
the
record,
the
applicant
is
Steve
lamantia
of
need
more
Dolores
LLC.
The
engineer
record
is
KCI
Technologies
Incorporated,
the
proposed
use
is
light.
Industrial
and
the
proposed
initials
on
ecos
development
is
M1.
A
total
of
eight
letters
were
sent
at
this
moment:
zero,
four
and
zero
against
General
location.
F
And
staff
recommendation
staff
does
support
the
proposed
annexation.
However,
staff
does
not
support
the
initial
zoning
of
M1
for
the
majority
of
the
tract,
however,
staff
is
looking
for
a
different
zoning,
my
goodness
a
different
zoning
along
the
highway
area
of
two
Highway
255
further
than
M1
or
M2.
F
Okay
and
basically
just
an
item
that
a
use
that
would
be
a
little
more
complementary
to
the
industrial
park.
C
F
F
B
B
Promotion.
Second,
a
second
all
in
favor,
all
right
against
motion
carries
moving
on
to
item
6f
public
hearing
recommendation
of
an
ordinance
for
the
voluntary
annexation.
Initial
zoning
of
M1,
light
manufacturing
District
on
a
track
of
land
until
1.0317,
Acres,
more
or
less
as
described
by
leads
and
balance
in
the
attached
exam
exhibit
a
and
known
as
annexation
track.
Six
Gilpin
track
located
west
of
FM
1472
and
north
of
Vidal
Country
Road.
F
F
B
If
not,
where
the
wish
is
Commission
I
make
a
motion
that
we
close
up
under
carrying
and
improve
staff
recommendation.
I
have
a
motion.
Okay
in
a
second
all
in
favor
aye
against
motion
carries
moving
on
to
item
6G,
public
hearing
and
recommendation
of
an
ordinance
for
the
voluntary
annexation.
Initial
zoning
of
M1
light
manufacturing
District
on
a
track
of
land,
totaling,
373.0974,
Acres,
more
or
less,
as
described
by
meats
and
Bounds
in
the
attached,
exhibit
Aid
and
known
as
annexation
track.
F
Christmas
chairman
for
the
record,
the
applicant
is
George
M
beckelheimer
of
Pinnacle
mines,
Investments
LLC,
the
engineer
of
record
is
Robert
J
open
the
proposed
use
is
light
industrial
and
the
proposed
initials
only
increase
development
is
M1.
Letter
sent
is
20
and
at
this
time,
zero
four
and
zero
against
General
location.
C
I
did
have
a
question
I
think
for
this
one,
these
300
acres-
these
are
along
FM.
1472
right
is
that
correct,
they're
along
the
Mines
Road
area,
these
yeah
they're
a
bit
they're
a
bit
off,
though
the
only
question
is
and
I
know
we're
starting
the
beginning
of
the
annexations,
but
but
from
what
I
can
tell
in
the
future
land
use
map
that
was
provided
to
us
on
this
I'm,
not
looking
at
the
correct
one.
C
C
This
is
calling
for
an
M1,
potentially
future
Zone
zoning,
so
I
think,
like
we've
looked
at
before
Navarro,
we've
got
to
really
look
at
the
land
use
Planet,
because
if,
if
things
are
changing
right
and
we're
recommending
different
things
than
what
the
land
use
says,
then
we
may
have
to
look
at
that
and
really
look
I
know
there
are
some
other
areas
in
the
South
that
we
have
talked
about
that
were
coming
in
also
M1
because
of
the
potential
future
Bridge.
C
D
At
the
land
use
map,
not
only
I
know,
this
is
on
the
Riverside,
and
there
there's
this
Bend,
but
I
think
we're
talking
about.
Is
the
other
side
of
Mines
Road,
all
the
way
down
to
255
and
then
coming
back?
Where
you
have
the
golf
course,
you
have
some
residential
development
out
there
on
that
area.
D
We're
going
to
have
to
start
yeah
we're
gonna
have
to
look
at
a
line
of
Word
Up
where
to
create
that
buffer
and
keep
it
away
because
it
does
change
as
we
start
well,
even
though
people
think
that
that
it's
oh,
it's
mine's,
Road,
it's
it's
all
warehousing,
that's
not
necessarily
the
truth.
I
mean
we
invested
a
lot
of
money
in
a
golf
course
out
there
and
we
we
have
potential
residents
going
on
that
area,
so
you're
correct,
we
have
to
you,
know,
keep
in
mind
of
that
right.
N
One
other
thing,
I
might
add:
Jed
Gilpin
for
the
record.
We
we
came
in
before
we
bought
the
land
with
a
master
plan
to
make
sure
that
we
were
heading
the
right
direction
so
that
master
plan
that
you
saw
there
was
probably
a
couple
years
old.
So
we're
just
acting
in
accordance
with
what
was
already
approved
previously
on
the
master
plan
right
and.
C
Then
now
these
300
acres
as
far
as
access
to
them
at
some
point
in
the
future.
Once
once
it's
looked
at
they'll
they'll
provide
some
point
of
access
to
it.
We.
N
Have
an
access
point
to
Mines
Road,
that's
consistent
with
a
long-term
plan
that
TxDOT
has
in
the
area
related
to
all
the
major
intersections.
So
we've
we've
checked
that
with
them
and
we're
working
with
them
to
obviously
in
order
to
connect
it
to
the
road
to
Mines.
Road
we'd
have
to
have
Tech
Subs
approval,
so
we're
working
out
with
them,
and
then
we
have
it
interconnected
on
the
master
plan
with
the
rest
of
the
subdivision.
It's
already
there
and
the
rest
of
the
subdivision.
That's
already.
N
D
Yeah
next
item
is
actually
the
master
plan
we're
going
to
look
at
so
okay.
C
That's
it
for
me,
as
far
as
that
is
really
the
land
use
map
and
and
the
axis
of
course,
as
far
as
just
a
comment
to
staff
on
the
annexations,
you
know
just
looking
at
them.
We
noticed
that
most
of
these
are
all
industrial
or
M1.
Annexations
are
really
just
one
residential
one
and
it
happens
to
be
in
the
South,
not
necessarily
anything
else,
and
that's
I
guess
part
of
what's
happening
in
in
our
development
here
in
the
city
as
a
whole.
C
Right
just
that's
what
it
is
at
this
point
and
and
I'm
trying
to
I
was
trying
to
look
at
the
annexation
fees
and
how
those
are
calculated.
You
know,
potentially
what
that
is
going
to
be,
but
and
I
wasn't
sure
I'm
not
certain
on
the
on
the
amounts,
but
it
seems
that
there
is
a
and
I
don't
know.
If
we're
going
to
look
at
that
later,
is
it
going
to
come
in
later
to
us
as
far
as
what
those
fees
are
and
park
space
and
things
like
that
or
I.
D
The
last
couple
of
meetings
we
we
were
discussing
meetings
that
we're
going
to
have
on
impact
fees
that
will
be
coming
up
because
there's
discussion
on
whether
the
City
of
Laredo
should
do
impact
fees
and
eliminate
these
annexation
fees
or
not.
Do
impact
fees
and
stick
with
this.
So
that
still
has
that
meeting
still
hasn't
happened.
But
I
do
know
that
once
that
happens,
it
will
be
presented
to
PNC,
you'll,
be
you'll,
be
seeing
and-
and
you
can
participate
in
those
meetings
right.
C
Just
looking
at
what
the
annexation
of
human
showed-
and
those
are
my
question
in
order
to
do
is
that
it
seemed
pretty
close
to
as
far
as
the
fee
of
of
a
commercial
or
industrial
fee
is
to
a
residential
fee
right
as
far
as
the
amount
per
and
I
think
it
mentions
something
about
per
lot
or
per
acre
right.
As
far
as
that.
F
Is
correct
so
we
work
with
the
UTS
department
and
they
update
their
their
their
data
on
a
yearly
basis,
so
we
met
with
them
prior
to
putting
this
together
and
those
were
the
fees
that
they
gave
us.
D
C
Right
so
when,
when
it's
calculated
program
to
say,
for
instance,
write
a
commercial
one,
a
lot
if
it's
maybe
considered
as
an
acre
potentially
that
acre
get
more
use
if
it's
a
car
wash
or
a
laundromat
or
like
those
things
should
be
considered
as
well
at
some
point,
rather
than
an
r1b
lot.
That
doesn't
probably
have
a
lot
to
water
or
you
know
or
use
that
much
usage
and
and
the
fees
are
very
similar
when
the
uses
can
be
way
different.
C
D
B
B
M
M
L
Yes,
I
have
a
question:
okay
on
the
planning,
I
think
it's
one
and
or
two
it
says
of
the
additional
streets
that
they
need.
It's
gonna
be
landlocked
and
unable
to
develop
in
the
future.
So
do
you
have
any
additional
streets
or
something
that
goes
from
Mercury
to
the
extract.
N
N
N
C
N
The
revision
we
just
did
was
to
consolidate
a
couple
units
and
make
up
the
Yellow
Part
nearest
the
highway,
which
is
the
yellow
part
in
the
top
right
corner,
and
so
that's
about
317
acres
and
the
whole
thing
is
about
just
a
little
bit
over
700
Acres.
So
we're
already
doing
almost
half
of
it
this
year
and
I
would
expect
the
the
next
color,
which
is
kind
of
orange,
would
be
in
about
a
year
and
then
the
next
color
would
be
in
about
here.
N
B
There's
no
other
questions
for
engineers
staff.
What
whatever
wishes
admission.
B
M
M
P
O
B
If
you
have
a
motion
to
move
to
listen
to
also
agenda
item
8C,
open.
D
A
B
O
O
Again,
Justin
Heather
on
behalf
of
killing
development,
with
respect
to
the
master
plan.
This
is
the
the
overall
view
of
the
master
plan,
as
the
commission
may
remember,
we
were
here
in
November
for
this
tract
here
in
the
north,
poor
39
acre
of
pulmonary
plant
was
approved.
This
is
here
the
existing
Port
Drive.
O
The
plot
that
we
have
right
now
is.
O
As
you
may
recall,
recall,
there
was
a
prior
plot
with
respect
to
access
for
railroad
drive
to
IH-35.
Here
that
was
reported
in
1990
..
Here's
the
insert
from
that
plant
now
we
overall,
the
the
impact
of
completely
Railroad,
Drive
and
part
of
this
master
plan
is
the
future
development
of
Portland
Laredo
itself.
O
The
access
that
Railroad
Drive
will
provide
age.
35
will
actually
alleviate
the
traffic
and
congestion
on
carriers
and,
hopefully
even
Royal,
possibly
per
the
city's
request.
As
part
of
the
master
plan
and
the
the
platform
block
one,
we
are
going
to
be
looping
the
water
line,
which
will
increase
the
water
pressure
and
the
entire
area,
and
you
know
the
hope
is
that
ultimately,
completion
of
Railroad
Drive
will
attach
attract
additional
investment.
O
Job
creation,
we've
spoken
in
November
about
the
parcel,
the
39
acre
at
the
top
that
it's
under
an
option:
contract
now
for
a
potential
115
million
dollar
investment,
as
well
as
certain
other
tracks.
Within
the
master
plan.
We
are
in
discussions
with
or
under
contract
with
companies
to
ultimately
make
future
Investments.
O
We
generally
agree
with
the
approval
of
the
master
plan
and
with
the
plat,
of
course,
but
we
do
have
certain
concerns
and
objection
to
some
of
the
comments
that
are
associated
with
both
of
them.
The
same
comments
on
both
of
those
items
and
one
is
the
the
prior
narrative
with
respect
to
the
April
21
comments
with
respect
to
Grande
and
the
need
for
a
traffic
impact
analysis
for
with
respect
to
congestion
on
Carrier
neural
Drive,
the
associated
comment
under
the
traffic
safety
portion.
O
That
requires
a
submission
of
a
TIA
and
also
with
respect
to
the
comment
from
planning
with
respect
to
the
developer
needing
to
provide
an
assurance
that
the
at
grade
railroad
crossing
will
not
be
closed
before
I
get
to
the
traffic
point.
The
the
item
with
respect
to
the
railroad
is
well
beyond
our
control.
The
crossing
itself
is
going
to
be
in
a
row
right
of
way.
We
as
a
developer
once
that
Railroad
Drive
has
been
completed.
It's
going
to
be
a
public
dedication,
we're
going
to
have
no
control
over
that.
O
O
So
next,
when
we
go
to
the
the
staff
comments,
what
I
provide
here
is
just
a
a
comparison
of
the
comments
from
the
November
with
respect
to
the
plat
for
the
lineage
portion
and
then
the
comments
on
on
the
current
master
plan
and
block
one
preliminary
plan.
Those
comments
are
really
directed
at
report.
O
O
Thus
we
can
get
started
or
move
towards
getting
the
construction
started
once
we
have
a
final
plant
recorded
for
the
construction
over
overdrive
to
improve
the
rail
or
the
access
to
IH
35
and
decrease
the
congestion,
and
so
we
respectfully
request
that
the
commission
approve
the
preliminary
plant
and
the
master
plan,
but
subject
to
striking
that
the
comments
with
respect
to
the
Tia,
the
prior
narratives
from
April
2021
and
the
director
that
the
developer
provide
Assurance
is
that
Union,
Pacific
and
TxDOT
won't
close
the
the
at
rail
Crossing
and
that's
my
brief
presentation
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
O
Technical
Mr
Seca
can
ask
answer
those
kinds
of
questions.
B
D
You
Mr
chairman,
just
just
adult
we
reached
out
to
a
traffic
department
and
Tech
stock
traffic
to
be
here
at
this
meeting
we
were
told
they
were
going
to
show
up,
but
they're.
Not
here,
I,
don't
see
them
here,
so
they
didn't
then
show
up
and
I
know.
Commissioner
Passat
made
that
request
and
we
did.
They
did
confirm
on
the
phone.
D
So
that's
who
are
with
that
as
far
as
the
the
Tia
and
talking
to
traffic,
basically
we're
just
piggybacking
text,
Dot
text,
dots
requesting
that
TI
and
so
we're
specifically
the
city's
not
requesting
it
we're
just
going
to
write
text,
dots
Tia,
so
whether
we
just
put
in
there
text
out
on
it
I
mean
that's
out
of
our
control,
but
we
just
wanted
to
we're
not
asking
for
two
separate
tias.
D
You
know
we'll
use
textile
I
thought
to
the
traffic
director
and
he
says:
well
basically,
that's
what
I
meant
they
were
just
piggybacking
off
of
them.
So
if
you
want
to
say,
if
you
want
to
remove
it,
you
can
because
TxDOT
is
going
to
request
a
TIA
anyway.
Okay,.
B
What
about
the
Assurance
of
the
of
the
Railroad
Drive
not
to
be
closed?.
L
That
that
is
also
that's,
why
we
need
text
Dot
and
all
these
people
that
are
involved
in
these
specific
items
to
be
here,
because
we
can't
move
forward
or
we
can't
understand
the
big
picture.
I
understand
his
his
place
right
that
he
has
no
control
of
the
railroad.
L
But
if
you
have
three
axes
and
those
three
axes,
the
railroad
passes,
I
get
I
think
by
two
of
them,
so
they
only
have
one
way
in
and
one
way
out
and
I,
don't
know
how
many
times
that
the
the
train
passes
there.
But
in
my
in
my
warehouse
it
passes
eight
times
a
day
and
for
with
hours
right
they
they
do
stay
in
between
15
to
20
minutes,
but
I
know.
L
J
L
L
And
the
Tia
like
or
like
that
the
director
said
is
the
Tia
he's
gonna,
be
he
they're
gonna
have
to
pass
through
the
Tia,
because
taxider
has
to
approve
the
road
right.
P
Yes,
thanks
here
you
can
put
the
back
the
the
the
platform
Union
Pacific,
the
inside
right
there,
not
the
previous
one,
as
you
can
see,
when
they,
the
Union
Pacific,
Pacific
Blood
of
the
property
they
dedicated
the
right-of-way
or
railroad
right.
So
it's
already
a
city
street,
it's
a
short
section
of
the
street,
but
we're
just
connecting
to
an
already
already
approved
City
street
I
mean
we're
not
creating
and
I
mean
we're
just
extending
an
existing
streets.
That's
that
that's
all
we're
doing.
P
As
far
as
the
DIA
I
mean
it's
gonna
tell
us
what
we
already
know
it's
congested
right
and
that's
why
Texas
is
already
doing
improvements
to
is35,
because
of
that
reason
they
have
upcoming
projects
to
alleviate
the
congestion
there
and
the
projects
are
coming.
They
had
a
presentation
the
other
day
on
that.
C
C
This
one,
what
is.
C
C
Correct
Port
drives
the
only
Road
currently
that
goes
south
and
it
ends
up
in
at
Pacific,
Rail
Yard,
yes,
okay
and
then
the
road
that's
going
to
connect
from
railroad.
R
C
Yard
port
drive
to
35
is
Railroad
Drive
Right.
That
road
is
not
currently
there.
No
that's
going
to
be
done
when
this
comes
in,
or
at
least
as
this
polarity
as
part
of
the
flat.
So
if
disciplinary
plant
doesn't
happen,
that
road
doesn't
go
in
that's
right.
Anything
at
this
point
so
I
mean-
and
this
I
don't
remember,
seeing
this
road
in
the
previous
master
plan.
C
L
C
The
flow
of
traffic
and
then
I
thought
I.
You
know
I
also
thought.
Are
there
any
other
areas
that
have
railroad
crossings
that
have
some?
You
know
warehousing,
and
you
know
when
you
start
thinking
there
are
some
areas
kind
of
like
behind
Walmart
on
San
Bernardo.
They
know
those
old
warehouses
that
are
back
there.
There's
plenty
of
Crossings
there.
L
C
C
L
They
are
not
development
until
Rosenberg
has
its
its
outing,
so
they
could
be
able
to
connect
through
the
back,
so
they
can
have
flows
through
the
back,
because
this
area
would
be
very
congested.
I
wanted
to
tell
Mr
Garcia
that
this
road
wasn't
in
their
Master
Plan
before
so
they
already
agreed
to
do
that
road
that
how
Mr
Varon
says
it
will
help
alleviate,
but
we
still
have
the
issue
of
the
rail
right,
Road
right
Crossing.
L
C
P
O
G
F
D
So
Mr
chairman!
Well,
you
know
we
want
to
see
this.
This
development
work
I
do
have
a
concern,
because
if
you
look
at
unit
one,
that's
that's
right
along
I-35
at
the
bottom,
the
proposal
has
been
brought
forward,
is
900
000
square
feet
of
Warehouse
and
that
first
section
to
come
in.
So
that's
a
significant
Warehouse.
D
You
know
we're
happy
for
that
business,
but
at
the
same
time
we've
got
to
be
very
careful
about
the
traffic,
because
that's
a
that's
going
to
be
significant
and
that
that
would
be
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
see
it,
but
it's
unit.
One
bottom
left
right
along
the
furniture
35.
So
that's
already
coming
through
the
city
as
being
proposed
here
for
for
this
site,
so
I
think
that's
two
warehouses
or
450
000
square
feet.
D
Their
only
Road
will
be
this
road.
The
70-foot
road
and
they'll
turn
left
to
come
out
and
they'll
turn
right
if
they
want
to
go
into
the
carrier.
So.
L
They
would
only
have
a
writer
from
from
to
go
out
right
and
to
go
in
the
left
right.
D
So
as
much
as
we
will
I
see,
this
I
just
want
to
be
very
careful
about
the
traffic
part
of
this.
It's
it
because
it's
limited
it's
only
one
road
and
that's
it
and
that's
a
lot
of
square
footage
and
that's
just
unit
one
that
doesn't
if
this
fully
built
out
I,
don't
know
how
much
square
footage
we're
talking
about
to
one
road
and
then
unit
two
could
potentially
have
double
that
amount
based
on
it.
So
it's.
C
L
Port
and
back
up,
they
already
have
an
you,
have
a
master
plan
in
in
that
900
square
feet.
Warehouse
is
going
to
be
in
unit
one.
Is
it
true.
A
L
This
means
obviously
they're
going
to
need
I,
don't
I'm,
not
saying
in
your
area,
but
you
know:
there's
two
roads
and
they're
going
to
need
overpass
right.
So
if
you
build
a
900
900
square
feet,
Warehouse
there
I
think
that
there's
that's
where
they're
coming
from
that's.
Why
they
need
the
Tia
to
see
or
Tech
stock
to
see
if
they
would
be
able
to
build
a.
P
P
P
Yes,
railroad
is
going
to
help,
because
what,
when
the
training's
not
there,
people
are
going
to
take
care
they're
going
to
take
a
left
and
then
go
up
the
French
Road
yeah
I
mean
you
already
have
an
a
signalized
intersection
there.
So
in
essence,
it's
going
to
help
it's
going
to
help.
Yes,
more
traffic
has
gonna
be
generated,
but
there's
a
lot
of
water
towns
that
wish
they
have
our
problem.
J
And
if
we're
creating
we're
creating,
we
know
there's
going
to
be
problems.
We
know
it's
coming,
but
we're
just
looking
the
other
way.
That's
all
this
part
work,
but
we
think
we'll
handle
that
later.
That's
why
we're
at
where
we're
at
right
now
in
situations
that
we're
just
talking
about
traffic,
is
going
to
get
worse,
they're,
building
a
new
railroad
rail
system
too,
to
cross
how
many
more,
how
many
more
trains
are
going
to
be
crossing.
That's
going
to
tie
up
all
these
areas.
J
If
we
get
to
the
back-
and
it
didn't
happen,
if
there's
a
if
they're
the
shoot
fire
now,
people
are
gonna
lose
their
lives
because
not
because
of
anything
else,
but
they
can't
get
through
and
then
they
probably
they
would
have
planned
properly
back
then
that
we
wouldn't
be
this
problem
now,
so
we're
in
the
situation
that
it's
great,
but
we
have
to
have
that
peace
to
make
sure
it
works.
That's
all
I'm
saying
and
yes
and
techno
needs
to
be
here.
J
To
tell
us
hey,
like
you,
said,
they're
doing,
studies,
okay,
what
are
they
so
we
know
that
this
is
going
to
be
at
least
three
quarters
of
of
what
your
plan
is
ready
to
go
then
a
quarter
of
it.
We
don't
know
the
other
part
of
it.
That's
all
I'm
saying
and
one
street
is
going
from
one
to
a
little,
not
gonna
help
an
emergency.
That's
just
my
yes!
That's
just
my
whole
thing.
C
Mr
chairman
so
I
mean,
can
I
I
want
to
ask
orally
the
t
t
the
the
traffic
study
is
going
to
be
done
by
Tech
stock
and
the
city
is
okay
with
them
using.
D
C
A
C
N
T
T
Commissioner,
Garcia
mentioned
that
these
guys
are
coming
to
Laredo
and
I
have
actual
knowledge
that
they're
not
just
looking
at
moreto
they're
looking
at
McAllen,
because
they're
also
looking
at
property,
we
own
over
there,
so
to
just
take
the
attitude
and
the
opinion
that
there's
no
other
options,
it's
not
very
good
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you
all
understood
that
and
we
own
or
not
we
own.
We
didn't
deal
with
UT
back
in
the
90s
to
build
this
road.
T
So
we
don't
need
a
Gia
today
that
Road's
already
built
it's
already
there
on
35,
and
so
what
you
all
need
to
actually
make
a
decision
on.
Will
this
world
help
or
will
it
not
help?
Because
if
it's
not
approved,
it's
not
getting
built
right
and
so
would
you
rather
have
a
third
option
to
get
out
of
unitex?
Or
would
you
rather
not
have
that
third
option?
So
that
is
up
to
you
all
and
that's
really
the
decision
you
have
to
make.
T
If
it's
not
going
to
work
for
you
all,
then
it's
one
of
those
deals
that
you're
going
to
continue
to
have
the
same
message
we
have
today
and
it's
not
a
perfect
fix,
nobody's
saying
it's
a
perfect
case
that
it
is
an
alternative
route
to
get
out
of
that
area.
So
that's
really
what
I'd
like
to
say:
I'll
again
apologize
for
not
being
there
and
I'll
continue
watching
the
the
video.
Thank
you
thank
you.
C
Hello,
if
there's
any
other
public
discussion,
I'd
like
to
close
the
public
hearing:
okay,
I'm,
sorry,
it's
not
pleasant
here
so
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
remove,
remove
the
comments
of
of
the
date
of
the
meeting
and
remove
comment
number
one
from
The
Culinary
plot
and
the
master
plan.
C
So
we
have
so
I'd
like
to
make
a
a
motion
to
approve
the
master
plan
and
the
preliminary
plan
with
the
the
strike
you
know
of
the
planning
comment
on
the
master
plan
number
one,
which
is
the
the
Railroad
Drive,
will
not
be
closed
in
the
future
in
on
both
the
preliminary
and
the
master
plan.
And
then
the
discussion
on
having
the
ti.
D
C
One
no
I
just
I'll,
leave
it
like
this.
L
D
Texas
visit,
though
the
only
reason
reason
would
be
possibly
because
this
is
a
city
street
according
to
it's
being
dedicated,
so
they're
not
technically
connecting
to
Tech
stock
road.
So
if
that's,
if
that's
a
technicality
from
text
Dot
to
not
do
it
or
they
can't
do
it,
because
it's
not
text
Dot,
then
we're
we're
stuck
in
a
situation
where
what
do
we
do
do
then?
Do
we
allow
for
our.
B
B
J
M
D
E
B
Got
hurt?
No,
no.
She
got
hurt
last
night.
Okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
here:
open
up
items,
eight,
a
and
eight
B
I'll;
second,
that
so,
let's
be
a
second
all
in
favor.
All
right,
thanks
motion
carries
I'm
just
going
to
read
items.
Eight
eight
and
a
b
's
record
preliminary
consideration:
the
plot
of
North
Laredo
District
park,
phase;
six,
the
intent
is
industrial
item.
B
K
There
was
a
question
about
Mercury
Drive
extending
to
to
the
Future
extension
of
the
of
ruthanger.
It
will
not
it
will.
It
will
turn
inside
the
park
off
of
phase
six
for
for
the
North
paredo
Industrial
Park,
so
Mercury
will
not
extend
to
the
future
of
my
password
but
other
than
that,
just
as
a
clarification,
because
that
was
one
of
the
comments
who
concur
with
all
all
three
other
projects.
D
You
see
phase
six,
that's
blue
phase.
L
L
K
L
K
L
B
Are
there
any
questions
for
the
internet
record
staff
on
item
7c.
L
J
And
the
one
that
we
went
prior
to
that
that
we
opened
up
seven
b
and
then
eight
she
would
not
have
told
the
same
way.
We
just
did
one
motion.
It's
only
the
two.
G
R
A
S
R
G
R
Yes,
the
applicant
for
this
project
is
an
insco
distribution.
Engineers
Ricardo
Ramos,
her
post
use
is
industrial.
I
was
looking
for
this
one
on
developments,
M1
location
view,
aerial
view,
street
view,
your
post
plan,
South,
Commons
planning
and
the
proposed
motion.
Thank
you.
R
Q
B
R
U
L
Yes,
of
course,
what
is
what
is
going
to
be
there
right.
U
Now
the
our
client
doesn't
really
know,
but
I
think
he's
thinking
about
a
little
small
warehouse
and
possibly
some
commercial
build.
L
D
The
owner
of
that
property,
he
he
sold
half
of
the
property
to
the
city,
Laredo
for
the
right
away,
and
so
he's
left
with
a
partial
piece
of
property
he's
working
on.
Oh.
L
U
L
L
J
R
C
Yeah
I
had
some
questions.
Just
I
know
it's
the
preliminary
plaid
is
here
and
I
know.
There's
a
plot
note
about
getting
the
r1b
zoning
prior
to
where
we're
fining
right,
because
what's
the
current
zone
right
now,.
C
The
only
issue
we've
had
with
r1bs
and
that
has
been
brought
up
on
this
commission
is-
is
parking
with
r1bs
as
far
as
it
being
an
issue
for
with
other
r1bs
that
have
come
up
before
this
commission
I
know.
That's
been
a
concern
of
this
commission
as
far
as
the
over
the
Overflow
parking.
C
If
any
right,
the
way
the
the
ordinance
has
been
written,
I
think
it's
supposed
to
have
three
cars
per
lot
to
be
able
to
park
three
cars
per
lot
in
an
r1b
since
they're
they're,
so
small
right,
these
lots
are
smaller,
Lots.
Okay,
do
you
have
a
site
plan
or
anything
right
now,
so
we
can
see.
D
We
would
have
to
to
see
what
basically
the
the
it
is,
what
you
said.
You
know
three
three
per
lot:
three
cars
per
lot.
C
C
It
at
20.
we
just
have
to
be
my
point,
is
we
have
to
be
consistent
right
if
we're
asking
another
folks
to
develop
in
a
certain
way,
then
then
everyone
should
should
right
or
or
keep
it
the
way
the
ordinance
is
written,
I'm
fine.
With
that
the
way
the
r1b
should
be
and
I
understand
it's
for
affordable
housing,
right
I'm,
assuming
this
development,
so
which
is
a
good
thing
for
the.
C
South
of
this,
so
overflow
can
be
Park
in
the
Outfield,
but
but
we
have
to
be
consistent
in
what
we
ask
for
future
developers
with
r1bs
on
parking.
You
know
some
of
them
have
gone
A
Step
Above
by
pushing
their
setback,
making
sure
that
there's
an
adequate
parking
and
we
hope
that
this
follows
suit.
C
C
E
C
S
Me
explain
a
little
bit
to
you
here
on
this
particular
development.
The
streets
are
36
back
to
back,
so
it's
not
like
a
normal
r1b
okay,
so
you
have
36
back
to
back.
There
will
be
three
parking
spaces
in
each
one
of
the
Lots
okay,
so
we
have,
you
know
adequate
more
than
adequate
room
in
this
whole
development,
okay,
because
of
the
streets
that
already
existing.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
an
issue
at
all.
Like
you
said
there
is
a
baseball
field.
You
know
across
the
street
there
is
vacant
land
on.
S
S
B
R
N
Good
evening,
Commissioners
Judd
Gilpin
for
the
record
again
representing
Pinnacle
I'd,
like
to
look
at
those
comments.
If
you
get
them
on
the
screen
there,
the
first
one
we
can
provide,
there's
a
property
in
there
that
I'm
going
to
call
to
your
attention
on
the
master
plan
here
in
a
moment,
and
we
can
provide
the
details
that
are
necessary
for
that
property
to
have
access
I'll
go
over
that
with
you
in
just
a
minute.
What
I
need
to
talk
with
you
about
to
do
that
is
the
exhibit
join
the
master
plan.
N
The
the
area
and
concern
is
at
the
top
that
cut
out
in
the
property.
Can
you
all
see
the
heavy
line,
and
so
what
that
is?
That's
a
tractor,
it's
owned
by
somebody
else
and
along
the
dashed
line
going
towards
FM
1472,
which
is
at
an
angle
there.
They
have
their
own
easement,
their
own
driveway,
and
so
what
we
propose
to
do.
N
There
is
change
the
note
if
you,
if
you
would
all
agree
to
respect
their
the
spacing
with
textile
which
we're
doing
anyway,
we're
already
working
with
techstop
to
get
all
our
access
points
and
we'll
respect
their
access
point
have
the
proper
distance
and
so
on.
So
that's
that's.
My
only
concern
about
any
comments.
L
What
are
the
intended
uses?
You
know.
N
They
have
a
radio
tower,
it's
a
it's
a
lot
for
a
radio
tower.
Okay,
I,
don't
know
if
y'all
might
not
have
known
that,
but
that's
a
big
Jack
one
of
those
big
down
radio
towers
a
lot
of
it's
10
acres
because
they
have
all
the
cables
going
out
in
all
directions.
Okay,.
F
The
Arkansas
with
that
comment,
just
just
as
an
update
is
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
they
were
come
back
in
the
future
and
want
to
develop
that
they'll
have
enough
right-of-way
width,
Tuple
taxes,
the
property
so
based
on
what
we
saw
the
preliminary
was.
It
looks
like
it's
kind
of
landlocked,
so
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
whether
the
access
is
off
of
FM,
1472
or
through
your
property
as
long
as
they
have
the
ability
to
develop-
and
they
aren't
you
know
in
a
very
narrow-
is.
N
N
N
N
N
Came
in
when
the
cooperity
was
not
purchased
yet,
and
we
went
through
all
this,
so
this
is
a
pretty
drastic
comment
after
we
already
addressed
Master
planning
previously,
so
respectfully
suggests
that
you
guys
consider
that
you
know
we.
We
have
an
approved
master
plan
already,
adding.
A
N
Because
they
have
their
own
their
own
Road
and
week
by
by
way
of
the
the
easement
and
the
documents,
we
have
to
respect
that
so
we're
basically
developing
up
to
the
edge
of
the
road
and
keeping
our
road
intact.
Just
the
way
it
is.
A
B
D
L
B
So
your
request,
Mr
Gilpin,
is
to
do
what
the
comment
one
again,
the.
N
The
thing
we're
already
doing
and
I
would
suggest
that
it
would
make
sense
for
this
comment.
Respecting
these
people
need
a
an
access
point
is
for
us
to
respect
the
driveway,
spacing
they
already
have
their
their
Lane
and
their
their
access
to
FM
1472,
and
we
understand
that
we
have
to
respect
the
spacing
which
we're
working
with
text
on
whatever
the
tech
stock
comes
up
with
spacing
wise.
That's.
N
To
be
clear
about
it,
the
difference
would
be
that
at
this
point
you
have
to
provide
land
for
them
that
we
paid
for,
and
they
didn't
pay
for
to
go
to
their
lot.
And
you
know
they
haven't
used
them.
They
can
use
their
lot
for
what
they
purchased
it
for
and
they
have
improvements,
so
we
would
just
be
completely
out
of
pocket
on
our
team
to
just
say:
oh
here,
you
go
here's
land
to
build
yourself,
a
street
or
whatever
someday.
So
that's
that's
what
we're
trying
to
avoid.
Basically.
D
L
N
N
B
You
have
a
motion,
take
it
in
a
second
all
in
favor.
All
right
against
motion
carries
if
there's
an
objection
from
the
admission
or
from
staff
cannot
hear
a
motion
to
hear
it's
consideration.
The
following
final
plots
and
final
repeats,
so
I
can
hear
items
10A,
10B
and
10c
go.
T
B
B
R
B
R
The
record
final
consideration
of
the
plot
of
Harmony
Hills
subdivision
phase
two
at
Rodriguez;
Ranch,
final
consideration
of
part
of
A
and
M
plat
and
finally,
final
consideration
of
the
plot
of
Monte
Verde
subdivision
phase.
Three.
B
Thank
you
now
moving
on
to
item
11.,
okay,
11
presentations
on
light
and
lemonade
presentation
regarding
application
for
cloud
approval.
D
So
Mr
chairman,
we
had
said
in.
D
Meetings
that
we
were
gonna
just
show
you
what's
expected
of
an
engineer
when
they
submit
an
application,
and
so
that
you
all
would
understand-
and
Mr
brunella
here
is-
is
the
recipient
of
these
applications
when
they
come
in,
so
she
volunteered
to
go
ahead
and
do
this
presentation.
M
M
Okay:
okay,
we
have
attached
the
applications
here
to
the
packet
and
we
have
an
application
for
the
preliminary
amended
master
plan
and
vacating
plots.
Basically,
in
this
application
we
have
the
we
require
the
information
of
the
name
of
the
applicant
server
engine,
the
engineer
or
engineer
the
name
of
subdivision
location
proposed
use,
which
is
either
residential
commercial,
industrial,
Lots
area
parcels.
M
If
you
need
any
viruses
or
any
public
improvements
being
made,
we
also
have
one
for
final.
The
final
approvals,
this
one's
a
little
different.
We
do
ask
for
the
same
for
somewhat
the
same
things,
which
is
the
same
name
of
the
subdivision.
The
applicant
engineer.
We
also
do
require
the
five
approval
letters
for
the
for
the
city
departments,
which
is
one
for
engineering
traffic
utilities,
environmental.
L
M
So
we
do
need
those
before
of
approving
or
in
order
for
the
application
to
be
complete.
Also
with
these
applications
we
do
require,
or
these
applications
and
all
related
materials
should
be
submitted,
subject
to
the
application
submittal
no
later
than
four
o'clock
P.M
15
to
15
days
prior
to
the
next
regular
Commission
meeting
unless
subject
to
the
requirements
of
a
public
hearing,
incomplete
applications
will
not
be
processed
for
the
current
cycle.
M
M
And
within
all
these
applications
for
either
General
Master
plans,
preliminary
finals
we
do
require
the
completed
application,
forms
evidence
of
the
applicant's
legal
interest
in
this
property.
We
have
modified
our
the
copies
that
we
were
we
would
require
before
before
it
was
11
copies.
Now
we
minimize
it
to
one
copy
for
the
flats,
a
24
by
36
PDF
form
of
the
plant,
and
we
also
require
shape
files
or
a
geo-reference
cat
file
which
is
compatible
with
the
City
of
Laredo
GIS
software.
M
M
Aside
from
that
all
General
plans
and
preliminary
plants,
vinyl
plaits,
we
do
require
a
site
plan
for
all
institutional,
commercial
and
multi-family
projects,
indicating
that
proposed
locations
of
principal
structures,
parking
areas
proposed
internal
traffic
circulation
and
access
from
public
streets
or
roads,
also
including
the
filing
fees
So
within
the
general
plan,
which
is
also
a
master
plan
or
any
preliminary
final.
If
you
see
number
two,
we
we
do
require
all
these
materials
and
information
to
be
in
the
plot,
as
well
within
the
preliminary
plot
application.
M
This
is
a
long,
it's
a
little
lengthy
herb,
but
we
do
require
all
this,
including
the
tax
certificates,
showing
that
all
taxes
are
current.
The
Deeds
name
of
subdivider
prisons
that
are
responsible
for
the
preparation
of
the
plaid,
so
on
and
so
forth,
but
are
these
are
all
the
information
that
we
do
require
that
need
to
be
in
the
plat
and
the
application
for
preliminary.
M
M
We
also
have
the
Subdivision
plat
fees
so
for
the
plot
fees
for
any
subdivision
or
resident
residential
lot.
Only
for
residential
Lottery
Lots,
less
than
20
000
square
feet
for
preliminary
plots
we
do
require-
or
this
is
the
planning
department
a
fee
for
100
and
for
final
plots.
It's
fifty
dollars
for
residential
subdivisions
greater
than
20
000
square
feet.
M
For
final
plots,
we
do
a
planning
department
fees
are
the
base
B
for
400
500,
plus
an
addition,
five
dollars
per
designated
residential
lot
or
forty
dollars
per
acre
or
any
correction
thereof
for
vacation
of
plots.
It's
three
hundred
dollars
a
fee,
Street
dedication,
plaid
sixty
dollars
per
acre
of
street
right
away
or
any
fraction
thereof.
M
F
M
Working
4,
30,
4
459.
B
U
C
F
D
Because
that
if
they
piecemeal
their
application,
they
turn
it
up
a
little
bit
of
time.
Then
we
become
secretaries
of
their
information
and
then
then
they're
saying
but
I
emailed
it
to
you
and-
and
you
should
have
it
and
they're
looking-
and
you
know
Mike
knows
this
very
well,
so
that
becomes
more
secretarial
for
us.
You
know
when
it
should
be
all
in
one
so
that
we
don't
have
to
be
doing
and
then
the.
D
So
so
then
I
have
to
make
the
call
whether
I
want
to
accept
them
or
not,
and
it
gets
frustrating
for
staff
that
has
to
they're
the
ones
that
have
to
so.
I
B
C
D
D
So
that
it's
it's
something
that
we
we
really
need
to
enforce
better
so
because
if
we
don't
train
them,
then
they're
going
to
continuously
do
that
and-
and
it's
partially
me
saying
well
I-
don't
want
him
to
have
to
kick
into
the
next
two
weeks.
You
know
we
want
to
try
to
get
him
in
there,
but
they're
doing
it
to
themselves.
I
mean
right.
F
F
Christmas-
and
you
know
it's
always
on
December
20
25th,
but
and
then
the
other
thing
is,
you
know
they
have
all
day
and
unfortunately,
it'll
be
359
and
we've
got
like
12
people.
What.
M
D
We're
we
we're
there.
We
saw
a
presentation,
we're
actually
looking
at
how
engineering
is
doing
their
process
to
to
to
see
if
we
can
save
some
money,
because
it
is
pricey
and
we're
talking
six
figures,
pricing
and
so
yeah.
So
you
know
we're
trying.
We
would
love
to
go
electronic
so
that
a
lot
of
this
could
be
taken
care
of
in
the
software.
But
right
now
where
everything's
hard
copying.
But
we
are,
we
are
looking
at
different
presentations.
We.
D
D
So
so
we're
happy
for
that.
We
want
to
welcome
our
intern
volunteer.
That's
with
us,
Genesis
Vasquez
she's
sitting
in
the
back
she's
she's,
actually
a
student
at
Columbia
University
in
New
York,
but
she
has
an
interest
and
we're
trying
to
convince
her.
But
she.
D
Of
shadowing
and
we're
showing
her
a
little
bit
about
Zone
cases
and
and
so
she's,
she
just
started
with
us.
So
hopefully
she'll
stay
for
about
a
month
and
then
go
back
to
school
and
finish
school.
We
don't
want
to
stay
here.
We
want
to
continue
our
schooling
and
then
the
last
thing
is
a
Char.
Ruthinger
wrote:
okay
I
last
week,
I
went
up
to
Austin
to
the
Texas
Transportation
Commission
meeting,
and
so
they
have
changed
it.
It
was
accepted
now
to
be
an
on
system
Road
and
it's
called
highway
84..
D
So
it's
no
longer
a
Char
rustinger.
It's
called
Highway
84..
We
have
83
and
then
84
right
next
to
it.
So
it
will.
It
is
now
part
of
the
state
on
system
roads.
So.
D
The
State
of
the
State
this
the
city's
responsibility,
is
to
do
the
acquisition
the
acquisition
paperwork's
already
been
submitted.
So
we
should
see
that
finishing
up
this
month
and
then
at
that
point
we'll
be
working
with
TxDOT
because
we
have
to
a
new
agreement
has
to
be
set
up,
because
now
TxDOT
is
going
to
be
responsible
for
the
for
the
road,
but
we,
the
cities,
will
have
done
their
part
and
then
the
state
will
take
over
the
construction
of
the
road.
D
C
Umato,
just
a
few
things
right
like
based
on
today's
meeting
as
far
as
the
annexations
right,
it's
a
it's
a
big
thing.
There's
a
lot
of
property.
It's
a
lot
of
Acres,
it's
a
good
thing
for
the
community
for
the
city,
I
think,
but
it's
a
shift
a
little
of
what
the
norm
is
for
us
right.
Usually
it's
pretty
much
equal,
some
residentials
commercial
up
at
the
end
of
the
day.
It's
it's
a
lot,
I
think
it's
something
that
we
have
to
look
at
as
far
as
land
use
right.
C
That's
why
I
mentioned
that
earlier
we
can
possibly
I'd
like
to
know
a
little
bit
more
of
the
annexation
process,
especially
like
I
had
mentioned
the
the
fees
right
like
is
it
equal
right
is
commercial.
Now
we
have
to
reconsider
what
they're
paying
compared
to
what
the
residential,
especially
since
there's
so
much
coming
before
us.
C
So
what
that's
going
to
be
about
and
then
the
other
channel
I'm
sorry
is
planned
unit
development,
I
hadn't.
You
know
it's
been
a
long
time
since
I've
seen
that
type
of
of
of
those
type
of
developments,
but
it's
I'm,
assuming
it's
based
on
need
right.
It's
it's!
C
It's
kind
of
the
smaller
development,
the
more
dense
density
because
of
cost,
and
if
we
can
take
another
look
at
how
that
process
is
happening,
I
I
think
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
discussed
is
the
review
process,
but
I'm
not
100,
familiar
with
the
process
of
the
Pud.
So
before
you
know,
I
make
something
like
that.
I'd
like
to
be
more
informed
on.
D
How
that
works?
We
actually
when
I
came
on
board,
when
I
inherited
a
new
ordinance
for
the
Pud
and
we're
finding
that
there's
there's
some
gaps
in
it
and
we're
trying
to
to
kind
of
bring
it
together.
I
I
didn't
know
the
basis
of
the
changes,
so
we're
kind
of
reacting
a
little
bit
we're
having
outside.
D
Frankly,
we
even
talked
about-
maybe
even
going
back
to
the
sup
process,
to
just
bring
it
back
because
it
was
it's
confusing.
A
lot
of
Engineers
yeah.
A
D
Not
only
Engineers
but
staff
yeah,
so
yes,
definitely
we
can
definitely
do
that
because
it
would
be
good
for
you
to
see
it
and
then
also
we
could
we
really
could
discuss
whether
we
wanted.
Is
it
good?
Is
it
healthy?
Is
this
ordinance
the
way
it
was
changed?
Is
it
healthy
for
Moreno
or
right?
Is
it
just
making
it
more
complicated
because
we
have
been
forced
right
and
if
we're
not
understanding
it
it
it's
just
and.
C
L
D
It
I
agree
with
you:
I
will
reach
out
to
the
directors
again,
and
we
do
we
do
call
them.
We
do
let
everybody
know.
Joanne
does
call
them
to
remind
them
that
we
have
a
meeting.
I
just
have
to
keep
pushing
the
fact
that
the
commission
is
actually
wanting
them
here.
So
I
will
continue
to
do
that.
J
L
Would
help
a
lot
in
our
because
a
lot
of
us,
2021
I,
wasn't
I,
wasn't
here
and
a
lot
of
them
weren't
here
in
2022,
so
obviously
you
can't
say
something
or
make
a
decision.
If
you
don't
know
the
whole
picture
well
and
frankly,.
D
You
all
make
a
decision
and
yeah
director
is
going
to,
you
know,
be
upset
about
it.
Well,
he
should
have
been
here
to
you.
Talk
about
it,
because
it's
very
difficult
for
us
not
knowing
the
background
to
enforce
what.
D
You
know
so
they
should
be
here
to
defend
their
position
if,
if
the
director
can't
make
it
the
representative
from
One
Stop
Shop
can
can
also
be
here
because
they're,
the
ones
that
actually
come
up
with
a
comments
come
up
with
that
right.
So
they
do
have
a
backup
that
can
be
here
so
I
will
reach
out
to.