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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting 010523
A
A
A
A
second
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
Citizens
Commerce.
A
Anybody
signed
up
moving
into
public
hearings
and
recommendations
of
an
ordinance
ordinance
of
the
City
of
Laredo
many
Land
Development
code,
section
24.65.9,
entitled
r1b
single
family,
high
density
district
and
section
24.771
internal
dimensional
standards
to
allow
for
r1b
zoning
in
the
eastern
and
western
divisions,
revising
requirements
in
the
r1b
zoning
district
and
revising
the
minimum
lot
width
required
in
r1d
zones
from
35
feet
to
34
feet,
providing
for
an
ordinance
shall
be
cumulative
provided
for
severability
clause
and
providing
for
publication
effectively.
Yes,
sir
Mr
chairman,
this
was
a
discussion
that
we've
had.
B
We
had
a
couple
of
applicants
that
were
having
issues
with
lot
Dimensions.
We
we're
finding
this
to
be
more
consistent
in
the
eastern
western
division.
So
the
suggestion
here
or
what
we're
bringing
to
the
table
is
that
in
the
the
eastern
and
western
division
that
we
allow
for
some
some
lots
to
be
subdivided
and
we're,
seeing
that
these
lots
are
about
eight
thousand
nine
thousand
square
foot
Lots
in
the
inner
city
and
we're
hoping
that
that'll
that'll
kind
of
encourage
developing
the
inner
city,
and
also
we
have
very
old
houses.
B
Very
I
mean
they.
They
really
don't
meet
the
standards
in
some
cases
and
the
poverty
level
of
some
people
that
doesn't
allow
them
to
to
expand
on
on
one
lot.
It
gives
them
an
opportunity
to
maybe
do
two
lots,
maybe
sell
off
a
lot.
So
that's
that's
where
this
is
coming
from,
and
this
is
going
from
here
to
city
council,
but
obviously
we
have
to
bring
it
to
the
pnz
commission.
Okay,
thank
you.
Well,.
A
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
mean
bringing
gentrification
to
the
older
parts
of
town
is
critical.
The
cost
of
land
is
extremely
high
by
taking
the
old
69s
and
making
two
lots
out
of
that
is
going
to
allow
for
more
development
in
the
inner
city.
I
think
it's
a
good
thing.
Yes,
I!
Think
it's
a
good
thing.
It's
going
to
help
everyone
in
the
community
and
it'll
bring
up,
hopefully
some
of
the
blighted
areas
where
we
can
do
some
good
with
them.
This
is
a
public
hearing.
E
The
director
Orly
has
kind
of
mentioned
the
items
that
I
had
listed
for
talking
to
you
guys
and
if
you
have
246
by
138,
so
you
can
get
four
Lots
because
in
the
old
days
right
you
know
they
were
taking
the
138s
and
dividing
them
in
a
half
and
they
became
two
two
lots
of
46
by
138.
So
now,
if
you
go
back
and
take
those
two
lots
of
46
by
138,
you
can
get
four
laps.
E
So
basically,
echoing
the
comment
that
that
Orly
had,
is
you
know
if
families
you
know
are
downsizing,
they
tear
down
the
house,
sell
the
lot
use
that
Equity
to
to
rebuild
the
new
home,
so
it
took
seven
years,
I
think
to
to
get
this
thing
in
there
and
it
took
I
think
habitat
for
humanities.
You
know
that
encounters
those
problems.
E
The
other
good
thing
about
this
is
that
it
requires
notifications
of
the
surrounding
landowners,
because
it
is
a
replaced,
so
it
gives
the
community
there
an
opportunity
to
say
no
I,
don't
want
it
in
this
block
or
whatever
right
or
at
least
come
in
an
appeal
for
that.
So
those
those
were
my
comments
and
I
hope
that
you'll
recommend
this
ordinance
to
council.
Thank.
A
G
G
A
The
lot
size
is
34,
what's
a
setback
or
is
there
a
setback
or
do
you
go
to
no
it
sites
all
the
sides,
five
five,
that.
B
B
Know
that
that
yes,
but
these
things
to
actually
have
a
chance,
this
gives
a
person
a
chance
to
plant.
So
we
can
straighten
out
some
of
these
things
might
get
by.
You
know
kind
of
fixing
the
size
of
that
and
we're
hoping
that
that
that's
what
we
can
do,
because
before
we
just
couldn't,
we
couldn't
plant
them
because
it
just
didn't
meet.
We'd
have
to
go
to
boa.
G
A
They're
in
eastern
Western,
yes.
B
One
of
them
the
person
has
bought
a
lot
that
that
was
sold.
They
don't
meet
the
the
the
size
a
lot
and
you
know
you,
you
can
sit
there
all
day
and
say
well,
you
know,
buyer
beware,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
those
kind
of
lots.
So
this
could
help
that
and
then,
of
course,
obviously
we
have
one
more
of
it.
The
community's
talked
about,
which
was
a
habitat
situation,
that
they're.
G
A
E
E
C
A
A
We've
got
a
bunch
of
them
off
of
the
creek
over
here
of
zakata
Creek,
everything
shifted,
there
were
a
bunch
of
Dr,
Ikes
did
off
of
Springfield,
where
we
had
to
all
kinds.
I
can
tell.
H
A
C
G
I
I
E
E
E
D
E
That
because
I
got
quotes
from
Rogelio
I
got
like
about
three
posts
on
one
of
the
the
family
needed
five
feet.
Only
and
I
was
trying
to
do
like
a
an
administrative
replant,
but
they
wouldn't
go
and
both
a
lot
still.
It
was
we're
just
moving
the
property
line,
five
feet
and
Marta
back,
then
you
know
brought
out
the
property
code
or
whatever,
and
the
explanation
that
I
got
from
all
the
engineers
was
that
it's
like
doing
a
subdivision
with
only
one
lot.
In
other
words,
you
have
to
go
through
the.
G
You
don't
do
an
administrative
replant
or
recommend
that
there
be
an
administrative
replant
based
on
what
you're
going
to
try
to
do
tonight.
A
G
A
A
A
A
F
A
F
Right,
yes,
one
of
the
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
has
been
Mr
Sherman
that
parking
all
the
time.
It's
a
problem
on
on
lots
that
are
that
are
small
and
that
size
34
feet
that
actually
it
just
creates
a
problem
for
the
for
the
person
that
are
even
though
the
house
might
be
affordable.
Sometimes
living
in
those
types
of
situations
might
not
be
very
adequate
for
the
for
the
resident
or
the
people
that
are
investing
there.
On
the
on.
F
Me
wrong:
I'm,
gonna,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
support
it,
but
I
feel
that
the
the
better
preside.
It's
good.
The
first
developers
that
get
to
that
area
and
they'll
be
able
to
buy
cheap
Lots.
They
will
be
able
to
provide
affordable
housing,
but
afterwards,
then
that's
going
to
become
a
little
gold
mine
that
the
prices
are
going
to
go
up
and
still
the
residents
are
not
going
to
be
as
benefit
as
we're
supposed
to
get
it
done
benefit.
That
was
only
a
common.
G
Public
parking
with
within
those
areas,
some
of
those
people
could
then
Park
their
cars
in
public
parking
areas
like
to
do
in
others,
and.
F
A
B
Of
the
concerns
in
in
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
is
creating
walkability
and
if
the
eastern
western
division
is
the
best
example
of
the
grid
system,
walkability
bus
service
being
able
to
walk
to
get
to
to
stores
that
kind
of
thing,
that's
what
we're
hoping
to
get
to,
and
today
the
eastern
division
is
the
best
example
of
what
we're
trying
to
get
back
to.
So
this
is
a
a
perfect
situation
where
you
could
design
these
neighborhoods
for
Less
cars
and
more
walkability
and
using
the
food
system.
B
That's
what
we're
trying
to
get
to
we're
trying
to
get
our
new
developments
to
go
back
to
this
design,
so
we're
actually
investing
back
into
the
design
of
the
grid
system
with
sidewalks,
with
the
schools
nearby,
where
they
can,
they
can
walk
to
school
I
mean
just
if
you
look
right
in
this
area.
The
Catholic
Church
the
schools,
the
elementary
school
Santa
Maria,
some
of
the
restaurants
that
they
have
there
all
of
it
within
walking
distance
of
a
grid
system
between
San
Bernardo
and
Santa
Maria.
F
To
happen
to
me,
you
get
you
get
two
families
or
three
families
there
and,
and
you
got
six
cars
in
64
yeah.
A
69
feet,
you
know,
actually
the
issue
really
is
not
just
the
Zone,
it's
all
of
the
zones
that
are
residential
serious.
If
you
go
to
any
subject,
Alexander,
for
example,
you
try
to
get
into
Alexander
and
there's
cars
parked
here
there
on
the
other
side
and
you're
down
in
one
lane,
yeah.
So
what's
the
solution
we
need
to
increase
the
street.
C
G
That
has
to
be
looked
at,
so
is
a
proposal
then
to
do
34
and
the
depth
of
the
lot
is
less
because
you're
going
to
ask
them
to
contribute
more
to
the
street.
Is.
A
E
Only
parking
for
those
families
is
the
street
so
with
this
ordinance
now
that
required
three
parking
so
when
they
demolish
the
home.
What
used
to
park
in
the
street
now
you're
going
to
have
three
cars
available
on
the
lot
and
those
lots
are
deep.
So
there's
no
there's
no
issue
that
they
can't
so
it
becomes
at
the
building.
Permit.
You
know
once
they
know
it's
an
r1b
which
is
one
of
their
check
off
lists.
Then
they
they
check
to
make
sure
that
they
have
three
on
off
Street
parkings.
So
it's
going
to
improve
the
part.
E
Years,
that's
a
that's
a
mistake.
You
don't
need
the
setback
to
to
go
back.
What
you
need
is
the
way
it
was
done.
Initially.
Is
that
the
the
site
plan
you
need
to
provide
for
three
parking
spaces
and
let
the
architect
design
the
home
around
the
site
to
allow
for
City
parking
spaces.
It's
the
r1bs
have
worked
excellent
and
what
you're,
seeing
on
the
North
side
today
is
now
in
the
north
side,
you're
starting
to
see
one
r180s
yeah.
F
Couture
and
it's
not
it's
not
because
those
I
haven't
seen
any
r1b
with
three
three
cars
in
34
feet:
I
mean
it.
F
Course
and
I
I
don't
agree
with
your
comment
with
Jewish
and
the
best
way
to
do
it
is
going
30
feet
as
a
setback.
Then
we
can
get
the
cars
in
there
and.
L
Out
of
the
streets
after
the
record,
real
quick,
just
just
one
comment,
the
all
lots
are
different
and
especially
when
you're
replatting
a
lot
so
an
artificial
30
feet
is
Will,
hamper
develop.
But
they're
going
to
have
to
do
the
setback
to
meet
the
three
foot
three
cars.
Some
people
will
prefer
to
to
pay
to
pay
their
entire
front
yard
as
Park,
and
some
people
may
want
to
I
want
one
of
these
deep
lots
to
set
them
back
and
and
have
to
run
for
the
three
cars.
But.
A
I
Are
the
wishes
on
that
point
since
we're
only
talking
about
30
to
4
35
feet?
Should
we
table
this
until
they
can
make
that
more
clear.
C
D
C
F
Make
a
motion
Mr
Sherman,
to
approve.
The
item
was
presented
to
us
and
sent
a
a
a
an
approval
for
city
council,
a
recommendation
of
a
pool
the
way
it
is
presented
to
us
right
now,
and
then
they
still
have
to
comply
with
the
with
the
Land
Development
code.
As
far
as
green
space
at
the
front
and
trees
and
all
that,
so
they
can
really
pave
all
the
front
because
they
still
need
to
put
a
tree
somewhere.
They
can
put
it
on
top
of
a
car.
B
A
A
Permitted
uses
by
adding
a
plasma
center,
a
plasma
collection
services
to
be
permitted,
uses
in
a
B1,
B3,
B4,
M1,
M2
zoning
districts
and
amending
appendix
saying
title
definitions
by
the
definition
of
plasma
center,
provided
that
the
ordinance
shall
be
cumulative
providing
for
cervability
clause
and
providing
for
Publications
and
effective
date.
Yes,
sir,
yes.
B
Mr
chairman,
this
was
brought
to
our
attention.
We
had
a
plasma
center
come
in
and
in
questioning
our
zoning
officer
we
do
not
have
a
category
and
zone,
so
the
zoning
officer
was
making
his
own
making
his
decision
his
own
discretion.
Of
this.
We
thought
that
was
a
little
bit
dangerous,
that
it
should
be
something
that
we
could
put
on
paper
and
that
we
can
follow
properly.
B
So
we
threw
out
a
suggestion
of
zones
to
implement
this,
but
you
know
we
that's
what
we
have
right.
B
We
just
thought
business,
but
it
really.
It
really
takes
it
out
of
an
individual's
well.
A
I
think
what
you
want
to
do
is
just
give
it
some
form
of
Clarity,
where
everybody
knows
exactly
what
it
is,
but
I
think
the
way
you've
got
it
here.
Your
recommendation
is
B1,
which
I
don't
agree
with
I
agree.
I
believe
these,
these
particular
centers
should
go
in
either
a
B3
or
B4.
A
Only
yeah,
manufacturing,
districts,
I,
don't
think
I
would
send
them
there
either
I
would
just
put
them
in
b3s
and
b4s
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
they're,
mostly
on
a
arterials
of
some
kind
right
and
they
do
generate
traffic
and
there's
one
thing
that
comes
to
mind.
I,
don't
know
how
much
you
thought
about
this,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
we
would
want
to
also
make
a
limitation
as
to
that
these
facilities
cannot
be
within
a
mile
of
each
other.
A
I
know
other
cities
do
that
they
have
this
kind
of
a
clarification
on
it,
where
the
centers
cannot
be
within
a
mile
of
each
other
and
it
sort
of
makes
sense.
This
is
a
new,
thriving
industry,
that's
up
and
coming
all
over
the
Border,
and
that's
just
a
suggestion
that
I
have
that.
You
know
I
mean
we've
got
those
things
in
in
signage.
I
know
we
do
have
Billboards
where
you
got
to
have
them
within
a
mile
space
and
stuff.
That's
just
a
suggestion.
I
at
this
point
is
a
public
hearing.
F
Has
input
I'll
make
a
quick
comment
on
that
Mr
chairman,
if
I
may
I
being
one
mile
away
from
each
other?
It
might
be
a
good
idea,
but
one
of
the
the
good
things
of
bringing
the
plasma
centers
into
the
city
is
that
they
do
a
development
they
buy
land
and
they
do
a
real
good
development.
Now
those
facilities
in
case
the
the
business
that
they
carry
on
is
not
does
not
provide
enough
money
for
them.
They
usually
will
sell
the
facility
or
they
will
release
it.
F
To
live
Laredo
they
already
left
the
facility
that
can
be
used
for
the
purpose
makes
sense.
So
it's
I
mean
your
comment
is
good.
I'll
support
it,
but
I
feel
that
the
way
was
presented
to
us
I
think
it
pretty
much
covers
as
long
as
we
keep
it
on
me,
trees
and
be
forced
okay
game
once
I.
Don't
think
that.
G
J
A
M
A
If
we
spiral
him
a
mile,
that's
I
think
adequate.
Don't
want
to
go
to
extremes
either
because,
like
cortica
says
you
don't
want
to
scare
people
out
of
the
city
either
you
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
in
current
development,
but
you
don't
want
to
put
a
restriction
under
that,
makes
it
so
difficult.
They're
going
to
say
forget
that
you
know
I
think
a
mile
might
work.
So
you
want
to
go
B3
B4
in.
K
A
D
F
A
A
I
A
A
J
A
B
So
Mr
chairman,
we
during
the
Christmas
holidays
to
get
a
room
for
a
workshop,
was
everything
there
was
actually
the
camera
people
didn't
have
staff
people
quit
on
them.
Who
did.
B
But
we
had
about,
we
have
a
few
changes
and
I,
don't
think
are
are
major
that
we'd
like
to
present
to
you
if
Rafa,
if
you'd
allowed
reference
and
then
you
can
talk
about
it,.
N
This
year
is
the
overview
map,
but
let
me
go
ahead
and
get
into
the
individual
with
details,
that's
important.
So
what
kind
of
one
of
the
first
proposed
changes
is
the
extension
of
University
east
west
of
Buffalo
from
a
collector
to
a
principal
arterial.
A
G
A
What
so
here's.
A
Up
here
and
put
the
map
the
whole
map
up
there
and
point
to
the
areas
that
you're
looking
at
making
these
recommendations
too.
I
think
that
would
give
everybody
here
the
big
picture
of
it
as
to
how
this
whole
thing
would
come
together
by
doing
the
little
squares
it
becomes
kind
of
hard
to
figure
it
out.
A
B
A
O
A
A
P
We
we
extended
down,
and
then
we
had
worked
out
a
deal
to
have
a
road
from
this
is
a
little
Loop
in
our
subdivision
and
we're
going
to
put
a
road
across
here.
But
then
we
changed
it
to
a
road
across
over
here.
I
think
it's!
It's
mostly
added
did
I
miss
anything
so.
B
Added
some
lots
of
that,
maybe
12.
so
Mr
chairman.
What
we'd
like
to
see
is
he
he's
coming
out
at
Mercury,
Mercury
Michael.
P
B
J
B
D
P
D
P
This
is
the
future
hachar
Ruth
finger
road
is
going
to
go
all
the
way
across
35.
D
P
G
P
Kind
of
not
not
to
their
liking
and
they're
going
to
curve
it
from
way
back
by
Benitez
and
they're,
going
to
curb
it
over
to
to
here
so.
D
P
A
A
O
J
G
B
The
outer
commercial
and
then
the
interior
Sunny
Seal
group,
is,
is
doing
a
development.
A
G
M
To
the
ring
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
I.
Work
for
slain
engineering,
I'm
represented
in
San
Ysidro
management
I
could
well
before
I
continue.
We
concur
with
all
the
comments,
except
for
engineering
comment,
number
one,
and
that
is
a
connector,
and
it
should
be
80
right
away.
We
are
currently
showing
it
at
60
or
it's
currently
at
70
and
we're
reducing
it
to
60,
and
this
is
Financial
vehicle
and
it
goes
and
connects
to
Future
facet
Boulevard.
M
As
you
can
see,
most
of
this
development
is
residential.
So
is
a
desire
of
developer
to
make
keep
this
interior
traffic
to
be
mainly
just
the
people
that
live
here
and
reducing
that
right
away
will
help
us
do
that.
We
also
want
to,
for
safety
reasons,
also
reduce
the
the
speed
limit
by
bringing
it
to
a
60..
M
M
It
kind
of
we
projected
they
will
go
west
into
this.
This
connector
that's
connecting
this
traffic
here,
we're
also
doing
another
six
feet
called
Palm
Lake
Drive,
which
kind
of
mess
up
with
big
band
across
the
street
and
we're
also
connecting
that
one
all
the
way
to
Rancho
Viejo
to
also
help
alleviate
some
of
that
traffic.
G
M
C
C
G
M
Can
right
now
this
does
not
exist,
but
that's
that's
not
part
of
our
development
is
somebody.
M
I
have
to
put
my
head:
I:
don't
have
it
but
I
have
it
here,
I'm.
Sorry,.
J
J
A
A
You
know
I
mean
it
I,
just
see
it
right
now
difficult
because
there's
no
other
way
out,
there's
no
other
way
out.
Even
at
that
Baskin
Boulevard
up
there
is
like
who
knows
when.
C
C
M
Road
it
does,
but
this
one
will
act
as
a
right
in
right
out
only
because
there's
a
median
yeah
yeah,
so
we
won't,
we
won't
get
traffic
across.
We
can't
get
traffic
across.
A
So
it's
so
new
right
in
right
out.
So
if
you
take
a
right
you're
going
to
go
up
and
exit
on
what
is
it
35
60,
whatever
front
drugs
yeah,
which
is
the
old
to
get
back
up
to
35
right
yeah,.
A
A
A
G
F
E
A
B
Yes,
yes,
it
is,
and
they're
working
in
conjunction
with
San
Ysidro
groups,.
M
They
are
doing
this
part
they
submitted
a
flat
for
the
first
I
believe
is
the
engineer
or
the.
B
B
At
the
same
time,
I
talked
to
fasting
group
and
they're,
saying
they're
coming
in
roughly
the
same
time.
If
not,
they
might
even
do
it
share
the
construction
cost
to
get
it
done.
A
Same
place,
that's
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
say.
You
know
we're
just
saying:
okay,
instead
of
you
going
here,
I'm
gonna
put
you
here,
but
you're
coming
back
into
the
same
area
yeah
and
they
come
back
and
come
back.
It's
just
like
a
little
ball
under
a
can.
You
know,
let's
see
where
it
is,
I,
don't
know.
A
This
really
hard
at
this
point,
I
realize
you
said
that
there's
only
going
to
be
one
phase,
how
many
Lots,
in
that
one
phase
that
you're
supposed
to
come
through.
M
G
G
M
F
To
call
this
roundabout
that
you
see
there
Mr,
chairman
I,
would
feel
more
comfortable
if
we
could
see
a
study
made
on
how
it
is
going
to
be
impacted
on
the
main
arteries.
J
J
O
J
C
G
C
F
F
You
if
I
can
make
motion
the
table.
The
item
based
on
the
fact
that
that
all
the
traffic
is
being
channeled
an
assumption,
Mr
Sherman
and
maybe
the
engineer
can
bring
facts
related
to
the
to
the
appropriate
program.
Okay,
that
would
be
much.
G
A
N
A
O
K
Good
evening,
Mr,
chairman
and
members
of
the
Commission
Section
advised
with
Premier
engineering
and
we
conquer
with
the
staff
comments
of
this
class
and
we're
here
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Oh,
where
is
the
this?
Is
the
Marshall
property
or
part
of
the
old
Marshall
property
right.
A
G
A
A
G
J
A
A
We
have
a
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second
and
a
second
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
say
that
all
right,
those
against
motion
carries
thank
you
next
item
preliminary
consideration
of
the
replant
of
lot
14
block
six
Polo,
no
subdivision
into
Lots
14a
14b
block
six
Pueblo
subdivision
the
intended
residential.
J
K
It's
it's
part
of
the
atj
zone,.
A
G
C
G
A
I
A
O
O
B
Purple
culture
Mr
chairman,
if
you
like,
we
can
open
item
e,
because
that
way
the
street
Menace
can
talk
about
whole
food.
At
the
same
time,.
A
All
right
well
preliminary
consideration,
the
plat
of
Northwest
Industrial,
Park
phase,
three
part
B.
All
right,
we've
got
them
both
on
the
table.
Yes,.
H
Sir
good
evening,
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
commission,
your
staff,
basically
we,
the
original
plan
had
these
part
aim:
Part
B,
together
we're
just
splitting
it
up.
Part
A
is
going
to
be
north
of
Beltway,
Part,
B
south
of
that
and
just
for
planning
purposes.
Just
the
timing
of
part
A
is
about
to
be
done.
It's
like
95,
complete
Harvey,
took
a
little
longer
just
for
some
improvements
and
we're
actually
coordinating
something
with
utilities
in
Part
B.
J
H
H
A
H
Yes,
currently
there's
an
existing
lift
station
right
here,
which
we're
actually
tying
into
eventually,
this
lift
station
is
gonna,
be
relocated
further
west,
as
well
as
this
there's
a
lift
station
currently
right
here.
So
it's
this
one
and
this
one,
this
one's
going
to
move
further
further
south
and
eventually
this
is
going
to
be
the
main
lift
station
which
is
going
to
Pump
It
Up
back
to
the
north.
There's.
H
G
But
but
there's
a
portable
plant
there
as
well.
Is
that
not
right
too.
B
Back
in
2021,
September,
October,
7th.
A
L
J
A
A
Are
doing
D
and
E
dovalina
makes
a
motion
to
approve
yes
and
a
second
by
Daniela,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Those
against
the
motion
carries.
The
next
item
is
reconsideration
of
the
following
preliminary
Platinum
preliminary
replies.
A
C
P
If
you
go
back
to
the
exhibit
join
the
flat,
so
this
this
is
a
unit
within
an
area.
That's
already
been
approved.
We
had
a
road
right
here.
We
talked
about
that
earlier
on
the
master
plan,
so
we
were
going
to
put
the
road
through
here
and
now
we're
offering
to
put
the
road
through
this
way
and
then
the
comment
was
to
add
a
road
further
down
and
we're
agreeable
to
that.
P
A
And
a
second
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Those
against
motion
carries
next
item,
is
item
11
consideration
of
the
following
final
flats
and
Final
replats.
A
We
have
if
we
can
take
a
motion
to
take
them
all
in
one.
C
A
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
all
right,
those
against
go
all
right
now.
Can
we
have
a
motion
for
approval,
make
a
motion
for
approval.
We
have
a
motion
for
approval
from
Commissioners,
a
second
from
dovalina
and
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
hi
all
right
now
we're
going
to
go
back
to
the
thoroughfare
plan
chairman.
If
I
could
ask
that
items.
G
N
You
Mr
chairman,
so
here
we
have
the
overview
map
which
individual
item,
so
this
is
University
Boulevard,
which.
G
Is
is
there
proposed
to
be
a
ramp
or
a
lower
president?
This
location
wasn't
that
one
of
the
text
not
lens.
G
P
P
C
N
A
A
B
That
was
brought
into
the
city
if
it
didn't
come
in
and
proved.
A
G
G
B
It
was
just
taking
more
section
that
was
a
rule
section
yeah,
possibly
we're
looking
at
probably
two
lanes
with
a
turning
lane
and.
G
So
we
so
we
owned
right
away
between
fence
plants
or
not
no.
A
A
B
A
G
N
Okay:
next
item
is
Bartlett
extension
from
minor
arterial
to
collector.
L
G
C
A
B
No
well
the
intersection
of
Mines
Road
yeah.
A
A
B
N
B
N
G
G
J
J
B
B
C
M
P
G
P
N
Okay,
next
up,
we've
got
a
connection
for
our
collector
over
to
35.
This
is
south
of
University
rail
yard,
yeah.
A
B
B
N
This
is
over
in
the
the
lake
area
by
highway
59
I
didn't
collected
here
to
provide
some
connectivity
and
some
relief.
J
A
A
Country
Club
Estates,
that's
what
it
is,
so
what
it
is.
You're
gonna
take
the
road
up
to
Casablanca
from
Country
Club
Estates.
B
C
C
A
B
Really
that
line
should.
B
C
C
N
A
The
I
don't
recall:
what's
the
payment
with
an
industrial
collector.
B
G
B
F
G
A
We're
right
next
to
it.
Where
he's
got
those
proposals,
the
one
that
I
bought
up
there:
600
acres,
okay,
but
you're,
connecting
him
up
north
or
Char
ruthanger.
N
A
And
to
get
it
up
onto
that
proposed
interchange
up
there,
okay,
now
from
what
you're
proposing
right
now
we're
still
on
the
600
acres
of
City
Homes,
we're
still
about
three
miles
away,
two
miles
away:
yeah
still
a
ways
off
what
about
that
section
of
road
right
there
that
used
to
be
called
doctors
Road!
Are
you.
G
N
A
A
B
A
It's
just
an
idea:
I
mean
because
how
far
away
from
doctors
road
is
proposed,
a
Char,
Ruth
and
Jerome.
A
Well,
that's
what
my
question
is:
I
mean:
how
are
you
getting
that
traffic
as
that
unit
oil
section
is
developing
and
I
think
you
know
a
lot
of
this
is
going
to
break
loose
in
24..
It's
going
to
be
a
real
big
growth,
so
those
roads
now
become
extremely
critical
to
be
able
to
develop
that
area,
because
you
have
no
capacity.
A
N
F
G
Then
you're
gonna
have
traffic
a
greater
queuing
on
the
railroad
side.
So
if
you
don't
have
an
approved,
Crossing
they're
going
to
block
it
and
if
you've
ever
had
any
issues
with
UB,
they
don't
move
fast.
G
A
A
Again,
this
is
a
good
proposal.
I
think
a
lot
of
it
is
going
to
also
depend
on
you
know:
tax
incentives
to
develop
that
area
to
get
those
roads
built,
and
so,
but
it's
it's
a
good
idea.
You
know
it's
a
good
planning
tool
to
to
get
it
going,
but
it
does
need
to
kind
of
fast
track
as
much
as
possible.
B
Right
and
what
happens
and
the
engineers
here
to
tell
you,
you
know
when
they
get
a
piece
of
property
and
they're
be
they're,
proposing
to
develop
it.
The
first
thing
they're
going
to
do
they're
going
to
take
well,
not
the
first
thing,
but
they'll
take
the
thoroughfare
plan
land
on
the
on
the
property
and
that's
what
they
have
to
put
in.
But
if
we
don't
have
those
roads
in
there.
A
G
Makes
sense
we
have
maybe
a
six-month
meeting
or
or
something
that's
at
least
relevant
meeting
with
tick?
Stop,
because.
B
G
A
N
N
N
We
have
is
this
changeover
from
the
removal
here.
At
this
connection,.
B
It
as
well,
you
know
what
you
got
that
one
is
actually
been
there's
a
medium
there
there's
a
median
of
on
Route
20.,
so
beta
mangana
does
not
cross
over
Luke
20.
it
dead
ends
and
right
at
that
point,
that's
where
the
new
park
is
going
to
come
in
so
that
stretch
right
there.
The
city
has
no
intention
to
put
in
that
road.
N
G
Right
so
they're
going
to
use
the
the
red
line
on
top
to
get
access
to
the
park.
G
B
Yellow
line,
that's
going
North
South,
that's
Concord,
Hills,
and
that
would
come
down
and
it'll
that
you
could
see
where
the
road
picks
up
again.
The
red
line
picks
up
again
at
Concord
Hills.
So
we
just
didn't
want
for
the
the
developer
of
that
particular
area
to
get
to
have
to
put
in
that
big
Road
and
not
get
any
help
or
anything
so
remove
that
they
do
have
land
that
that
Sierra
Vista
will
cut
right
through
the
middle
of
it.
G
G
N
A
A
B
A
A
Or
what
was
that
industrial
kind
of
like
that?
Yes,
so
if
you've
got
800
acres
to
develop
in
there
and
it's
going
to
be
Industrial,
don't
you
want
to
consider
mangana
Hind
from
where
you
got
that
proposed
arterial
to
83
to
be
more
like
a
principal
arterial
because
of
the
trucks
trucks
are
bigger?
A
B
A
N
A
mile
and
our
last
one
is
taking
this
minor
material
to
a
principal
arterial
and
then
connecting
it
down
to
259.
A
And
this
this
is
where.
B
A
N
Sorry
go
ahead
all
right.
We
have
this
alignment
here
because
we
already
got
a
master
plan
and
the
developer
has
agreed
to
start
out
the
principal
Arturo
here
so
he's
already
integrated
to
his
his
master
plan
and
then
eventually,
this
connection
getting
it
all
the
way
to
59
will
definitely
provide
some
relief
for
the
the
proposal
that
the
county
has
because
they're
Master
planning
their
their
Fairgrounds.