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Planning and Zoning Committee Meeting 030421
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B
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F
A
F
I
just
want
to
mention
real
quick,
mr
sherman,
on
the
last
meeting
I
was
not
able
to
to
connect
to
the
to
the
meeting,
and
I
hope
that
I
was
excused
at
that
meeting
because
he
was
not
purposely
the
reason
for
me
to
have
to
be
present
if
it's
required
that,
if
somebody
can
make
a
motion
to
excuse,
whoever
was
not
present
last
meeting.
If
that
is
an
order,
that's
only
what
I'm
requesting.
F
D
D
D
D
D
Advice
right
seconds:
all
those
were
not
in
favor
of
that
motion
signify
by
saying
aye
when
heard
minutes
are
approved,
was
as
corrected.
The
next
item,
the
election
of
officers.
As
I
was
saying,
we
need
to
elect
the
vice
chairman.
Our
vice
chairman,
was
joey
deyes
and
he's
been
replaced
on
the
commission.
So
the
floor
is
going
to
be
open
to
nominations
for
anybody.
D
Is
a
second
on
the
nomination,
all
those
who
are
not
in
favor
unless
there's
another
unless
there's
somebody
else
who
is
interested
and
I
got
a
motion,
I
got
a
second
on
that,
if
not
all
those
who
are
not
in
favor
of
the
motion
signify
by
saying
aye
dan
heard
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
Congratulations!
Thank
you,
larry.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
all
right
here.
We
go
next
item
public
hearings,
amendment
the
zoning
norton's
map
of
the
city
loaded
by
authorizing
the
issues,
a
special
use
permit
for
many
storage,
warehousing
on
approximately
5.01
acres
situated
at
the
location
north
of
st
look
boulevard
east
of
ahido
avenue.
This
is
an
item
from
last
time
that
was
tabled.
C
B
C
I
I
I
It
is
the
future
land
use
designates
this
area
as
a
neighborhood.
Mixed
use
and
staff
supports
the
proposed
sup.
It
is
in
conformance
with
the
comprehensive
plans
designation,
it's
compatible
with
the
surrounding
existing
zones.
It
does
meet
its
separation,
distance
requirements
and
the
conditions
are
listed
in
the
staff
report.
Staff
is
willing
to
amend
the
sup
to
allow
the
permit
to
be
issued
to
someone
other
than
the
owner.
C
We
did
not
provide
that
as
part
of
the
public
record,
because
it's
it's
private,
but
it
demonstrated
to
us
that
they
are
in
fact
in
a
legal
position
for
that
for
anthony
scalia
to
take
over
the
property.
I'd
also
like
to
point
out
with
these
conditions
here
these
15
conditions
that
we
need
to
we
can
discuss.
C
I'm
not
sure
we
need
to
other
than
to
say
that
this
conditional
use
permit
has
conditions,
not
just
that
we're
going
to
build
a
mini
storage
here,
but
how
it's
going
to
be
operated,
for
example,
number
seven,
flammables,
combustibles,
corrosive
toxins,
nuclear
waste,
hazardous
waste,
etc.
No
permits
for
storage
of
any
these
materials
shall
be
issued
and
that
you
know
there
are
conditions
here
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
if,
in
the
future,
this
property
is
sold
to
somebody,
we
don't
know
who
we
can't
name
it
to
right.
Now.
C
C
Just
like
silato
lindo
is
right
now
and
then
we
could
issue
it
through
the
new
owner
if
they
want
to
do
a
contingent,
sell
or
the
new
owner
could
purchase
this
property
and
come
in
and
get
a
special
use
permit
and
there's
not
going
to
be
a
problem.
It's
already
many
warehouses,
they're
just
renewing
the
agreement
that
they
have
with
the
city.
This
is
done
all
the
time
in
the
city
when
somebody
gets
a
new
special
use
permit
for
say
you
know
a
use,
that's
conditional
or
specially
used.
C
Kirby,
yes,
sir,
the
the
the
building,
the
structure
itself
is
going
to
get
built
and
it's
going
to
be
built
for
many
warehouses,
but
there,
but
its
operation
is
going
to
be
conditional
based
on
these
conditions
listed,
and
so
we
want
to
maintain
that.
So
if
a
new
owner
comes
in,
who
didn't
agree
to
these
conditions,
we
want
to
re-establish
this
permit.
C
This
agreement
with
them
by
issuing
a
new
special
use
permit
for
any
special
use
permit
or
any
conditional
use
permit
that
the
city
issues
it
is
always
non-transferable
always
has
to
get
renewed
with
a
new
owner.
So
we're
asking
at
this
that
this
be
treated
the
same,
that
it
be
non-transferable,
as
are
all
our
other
special
use
permits
and
conditionary
experiments.
H
C
D
J
B
The
reason
I'm
saying
that
is,
it
would
be
like
the
city
of
laredo
handcuffing
in.
I
think
we
can
put
in
the
deed
that
all
all
the
ordinances
that
that
must
comply
with
with
this
special
use
purpose
followed,
and
I
understand
kirby's
comments.
You
know
we
don't
want
flammable.
Nobody
wants
any
dangerous
materials
there,
but
I
feel
like
if,
if
we
put
his
non-transferable
kirby
says
it
wouldn't
be
a
problem.
B
B
D
F
C
The
fact
remains
that
this
is
how
we
do
special
use
permits
and
conditional
use
permits
for
for
all
special
use
and
conditional
use
permits
in
the
city.
We
renew
it
when
there's
a
new
owner-
and
that
is
not
a
problem-
has
not
been
a
problem.
You
can
attest
to
the
fact
that
20
years
ago
it
wasn't
a
problem.
C
It's
it's.
You
know
something
like
this.
That's
built
as
many
storage,
we're
not
going
to
say
oh
well.
Now
it
has
to
be
a
water
park,
no
they're
getting
a
conditional
use
permit,
but
it
has
conditions
on
it.
We
want
to
make
sure
those
are
maintained
as
long
as
they
stay
mini
storage
and
it's
it's
to
treat
this
applicant
differently
than
others,
because
there's
a
financial
interest
in
it,
I
think,
would
be
unfair.
I
think
it's
important
to
treat
all
of
our
applicants
the
same
way
and
it's
not
an
unreasonable
condition
or
request.
J
D
B
D
C
Yes,
sir,
a
deed
restriction,
unfortunately,
would
not
be
what
the
city
would
would
like
to
see,
because
it's
not
something
we
could
enforce.
However,
with
a
conditional
use
permit.
Yes,
all
the
conditions
aren't
listed.
That's
the
case
for
every
one
of
the
conditional
specialties
permits
we
have
all
the
conditions
are
not
listed
in
the
ordinance,
but
the
mere
fact
that
it's
a
special
use
permit
gives
us
the
ability
to
ask
for
these
conditions
and
with
every
special
experiment
we
ask
for
we
ask
that
it's
non-transferable.
C
C
However,
it
is
within
the
if
the
planning
commission
wants
to
recommend
striking
or
if
the
city
council
wants
to
strike
a
commission.
It
is
certainly
within
the
purview
of
the
planning
commission
to
recommend
that
and
the
city
council
to
decide
to
strike
something,
I'm
just
making
the
case
that
it
is
a
condition
we
want,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
agreement
stays
in
place.
We're
not
saying
many
storages
are
bad.
D
C
We
are
considering
removing,
I
would
say,
about
95
percent
of
the
application
of
special
use
and
conditional
use.
So
in
the
future,
when
we
change
the
code,
which
will
be
relatively
soon,
we
don't
want
to
do
that
by
special
use
part
we
want
to.
We
want
to
continue,
but
I
would
say
for
for
this:
we
would
list
those
conditions
in
the
code
and
so
those
could
every
one
of
the
conditions
here
make
sense
to
our
staff.
That's
why
they're
in
the
didn't
just
list
stuff,
because
they
used
to
be
in
there.
C
C
C
That
well
part
of
the
question
of
making
something
non-transferable
with
the
special
use.
Permit
is
the
legality
of
it
that
is
it
binding
to
the
next
person
who
buying
who
purchases
this
property,
because
they're
not
named.
They
didn't
make
this
agreement
with
the
city.
That's
part
of
the
part
of
the
issue
why
we
want
it
non-transferable
so
that
the
new
person
has
to
come
in
and
make
agreements.
C
C
C
E
D
F
C
L
C
C
D
L
L
So
the
reason
the
reason
this
was
table
was
because
there
was
some
misinformation
being
said
on
the
last
meeting,
in
that
it
specifically
stated
in
the
ordinance
that
this
type
of
special
youth
permit,
not
conditionally
sperm
special
use.
Permit
was
non-transferable
also
that
the
commission
couldn't
act
on
deleting
this
comment
from
the
from
from
what
from
what
has
been
stated
there
in
the
planning
comments.
L
L
Part
of
those
guidances
are
pretty
much
common
to
and
on
from
the
planning
comments,
however,
it
does
not
state
that
an
sup
for
a
mini
storage
is
non-transferable
now
I
know
it's
been
said
that
people
don't
want
to
give
cons
special
consideration
from
one
client
or
the
other.
We
are
just
abiding
by
the
ordinance
specifically
on
a
use.
That's
permanent,
a
structure.
That's
permanent
in
that,
when
this,
when
it
gets
transferred,
the
conditions
that
we
agree
upon
today
should
stay
on
there
and
not
have
a
future
pnd
commission
or
future
director
less
than
those
restrictions.
L
We're
all
thinking.
It's
going
to
happen.
It's
not
going
to
happen.
We
can't
foresee
that
future,
so
we
rather
agree
to
what
the
ordinance
actually
lets
us
do
today.
Now
most
of
the
sups
that
come
through
the
pmz
and
through
council
have
to
do
with
alcohol,
fails
either
through
restaurant
through
saloons
through
bars.
L
L
They
can't
change
the
use.
This
youth
follows
the
land,
and
so
that's
why
we
request
for
note
one
to
be
stricken
to
follow
the
ordinance
and
allow
this
special
special
use
program,
not
conditioning
department,
special
youth
permit
to
be
transferable
in
the
future,
to
any
assignees
or
any
future
company.
Now
I
I
would
just
literally
want
to
clarify
this
with
planning.
F
You
probably
maybe
recognize
institutional
messages
the
I've
been
following
up
and,
and
also
I
I
had
a
conversation
with
vanessa
and
kirby,
and
I
I
believe
that,
on
this
particular
instance,
the
we
are
our
city
council
is
going
to
grant
a
right
to
build
the
storages
and
what
storages
are
not
going
to
go
anywhere.
I
mean
they're
not
going
to
change
from
one
day
to
another
into
something
else.
F
I
mean
definitely
the
list
of
of
recommendations
or
conditions
that
planning
is
is
giving
out
for
a
developer.
I
think
they're
good.
I
don't
agree
as
far
as
not
being
transferable,
and
I
want
to
tell
you
why
and
I'm
sure,
mr
chairman,
that
you
might
be
aware
that
there's
some
properties
that
now
they
have
not
been
able
to
sell
them
or
to
market
them
affecting
the
the
owners
in
a
in
a
real
bad
manner.
F
I
agree
with
kirby
that
the
that
the
conditions
to
stay
in
there
and
they
are
because
they're
gonna
be
actually
running
with
the
land.
Once
you
put
those
storages
there,
I
mean
they're,
not
going
anywhere
they're
storages
and
the
special
use
permit
should
be
transferable
because
they're
going
to
be
operated
overall.
By
the
same
fact
as
storage
already,
the
conditions
exist.
F
I
represent
that
that
district
and
I
feel
that
it
is
appropriate
that
we
approve.
I
would
make
a
motion
to
improve
together
with
with
the
conditions
provided
that
the
the
condition
number
one
and
that
the
wording
would
be
that
it
would
run
with
the
land
that
once
they
sell
it,
it
would
run
with
the
land.
F
I
if,
if
the
applicant
is
good
with
that,
then
I
would
make
a
motion
to
approve
it
with
the
with
the
division
of
the
condition
number
one,
and
actually
that
we
will
approve
it
and
send
the
recommendation
to
city
council
based
on
this
particular
instance.
Mr
chairman,
that
if
you
will
be
in
the
storages
now
in
10
years
and
20
years
from
now,
so
I
feel
that
it
should
run
within
that.
D
F
On
the
contrary,
I
would
like
to
have
it
rewarded
with
a
with
a
positive
recommendation
to
city
council
to
approve
the
special
use
permit
and
that
it
runs
with
the
land
that
they
don't
have
to
come
back
and
reapply
for
the
special
use
permit.
I
think
the
conditions
and
the
fact
that
that
the
construction
is
gonna
be
unique.
We
don't
have
to
burden
the
the
owner
coming
back
to
reapply
for
the
special
use
person.
D
F
If
anybody
would
come
in
the
future
with
something
different,
we
would
have
to
look
at
it
on
a
on
a
one-to-one
basis
being
that
this
is
a
unique
request
and
those
storages
are
not
going
to
change
into
a
motel
they.
Actually,
I
I
feel
that
the
special
use
permit
should
be
granted
and
that
it
will
run
with
the
land
on
that
particular
instance.
D
D
D
F
A
Mr,
mr
chairman,
this
is
rahul,
it's
transferable,
the
the
special
use
permit,
so
the
only
thing
they
can
do
with
the
property
is
as
for
other
storage
units.
If
they
were
to
resell
it,
if
they
pick
another
use
for
it,
they
would
have
to
come
back
and
and
make
they
have
to
go
to
building
department.
They
would
have
to
come
back
and
rezone
it
for
a
different
use.
So
no
we're
not
changing
those
zoning
permanently
we're
just
making
the
sup
transferable.
D
All
we're
doing
is
you're.
Absolutely
all
we're
doing
is
approving
an
sup
that
allows
many
storage
warehousing
on
this
property,
which
has
a
b1
zone.
That's
it
anything
other
than
that
in
the
future,
any
changes
other
than
that
it
goes
back
to
zoning
and
whatever
the
zoning
allows
it's
what
they
can
do.
Yeah.
A
F
D
C
E
For
the
for
the
record,
the
applicant
l91
bc
properties,
engineer
of
record
belwa,
consulting
approximately
47.39
acres,
south
located
south
of
us,
high
59
and
west
of
bob
bullock,
blue.
The
zoning
for
the
254
live
development
is
b3
and
r1a,
and
the
proposed
uses
are
residential
and
commercial
general
location
aerial
view
street
view.
C
C
C
C
K
D
All
right,
I
got
you
thank
you.
Does
anybody
in
the
commission
have
any
questions
I
move
to
approve?
We
have
a
motion
and
do
we
have
a
second
second
any
seconds
all
those
who
are
not
in
favor
of
the
motion
signified
by
sainai
don
heard
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
Next
item
is
the
consideration
of
the
following
preliminary
plans.
D
Preliminary
considerations,
plan
of
central
village
subdivision
phase,
one
the
antenna
is
residential
and
commercial.
Imagine
it's
the
same
presentation.
It's
just
cutting
back
down
a
portion
of
that
master
plan
right.
That
is
correct.
Sir
all
right,
can
you
put
up
the
master
plan
that
that
is
all
right,
so
this
is
phase
one
okay.
D
K
D
D
E
E
D
C
Yes,
sir,
well,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
one
example
of
many
for
those
of
y'all
that
have
been
here
where
you
may
not
agree
with
staff
comments,
and
that
is
perfectly
fine.
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
we
do
our
best
to
put
together
the
comments
based
on
based
on
history
and
policies
that
have
been
established.
There's
usually
good
reasons
behind
the
things
that
we
do,
but
you're
afforded
the
opportunity
to
to
make
recommendations
to
council
or
to
improve
things
in
a
different
way.
C
Although
it
is
important,
we
follow
the
ordinances
that
are
that
are
established
where
we
don't
have
an
established
ordinance.
We
do
have
some
room
for
flexibility
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
respect
your
decisions
that
you
make,
and
it
is
the
authority
that
rests
with
you
and
that
has
been
entrusted
to
you.
And
so
we
respect
that,
and
even
though
we
disagree,
I
just
wanted
to
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
say
that
we're
grateful
for
your
service.
C
We
respect
your
decisions
that
you
arrive
at
and,
and
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
work
with
you
and
to
serve
as
your
staff
here
at
the
city.
I
want
to
thank
each
and
every
one
of
you
for
your
service
for
those
of
you
that
have
been
here
a
while
for
those
of
you
to
stay
awhile
for
those
of
you
that
may
leave
soon.
C
F
D
Kirby
before
we
sign
off
I'd
like
to
bring
something
up,
I
would
like
for
us
to
have
the
engineers
or
anybody
who's
going
to
address
this
commission
to
also
be
allowed
to
get
in
on
the
webex.
I
think
it's
a
lot
easier
for
us
to
be
able
to
see
what
somebody's
trying
to
present
to
us.
If
they
got
a
document
or
something
then
to
just
be
on
the
phone.
F
I
agree
with
you,
mr
chairman.
I
think
that
the
communications
are
very
poor,
with
the
from
the
applicants
to
us
and
and
it's
very
frustrating
for
them,
and
for
us
not
to
not
to
fully
understand
what
other
that
point
that
they're
trying
to
bring
across
once
we
give
them
the
three
minutes,
the
three
minutes:
they
they
go
real
fast.
So
that's
one
of
the
items.
The
second
one
is.
It
seems
that
curry,
I
think
that
eventually
we're
going
to
be
opening,
and
probably
at
city,
council
meetings
or
chambers.
F
F
It
actually
is
just
a
comment
that
I
want
to
make
on
record,
because
the
some
of
the
equipment
that
we
have
is
he
might
not
be
as
as
good
at
other
commissioners,
any
frustration
not
to
be
able
to
communicate
properly,
but
I
agree
with
you,
mr
german.
I
think
that
anybody
that
is
going
to
be
doing
a
presentation
should
be
on
the
web
with
us,
so
we
can
actually
have
a
better
access
to
their
to
their
comments
or
what
they're
going
to
be
bringing
before
us.
Thank
you,
sir.
M
C
C
Fortunately,
there
are
challenges
to
adding
more
people
than
meeting,
and
we've
tried
to
find
a
balance.
If
you
look
at
how
the
city
council
is
run,
all
they're
accepting
is
comment
cards,
so
they're
not
accepting
they're,
not
allowing
anyone
to
enter
the
meeting.
We
found
a
good
compromise
with
allowing
calls
to
be
made,
and
it
is
a
little
difficult,
but
the
challenge
of
adding
multiple
people
to
the
meeting
is
significant
and
we've
learned
that
from
experience.
So
what
I
would
say
is
give
us
the
flexibility
or
allow
us
the
flexibility.
C
If
the
meeting
agenda
is
small,
we'll
try
it
out
when
it's
big,
we
may
have
to
go
back
to
calls,
because
the
number
of
people
in
a
meeting
adds
complexity
exponentially
to
the
meeting
and
running
the
meeting
and
managing
it,
but
we'll
try
it
out,
we'll
try
it
out
and
see
how
it
is,
especially
when
it's
small,
I
think
we
can
accommodate
like
today,
would
have
been.
You
know
we
could
have
done
that
for
a
couple.
D
Well,
you
know
it
may
become
a
moot
issue.
I
mean
it
may
be
that
with
the
governor
opening
up
at
100,
the
city
council
may
have
to
say
you
know
what
we're
going
to
hold
these
meetings
now,
maybe
using
a
standard
of
six
foot
distancing
in
between
commissioners
and
staff
and
applicants
or
whatever,
but
it
may
be
a
short
time
before
these
things
go
back
to
an
in-person
thing.
I'm
I'm
thinking,
maybe.
H
The
governor
did
not
lift
the
comments
related
to
open
meetings
and
they
continue
in
effect
until
april,
from
what
I
understand
and-
and
so
the
public
meetings
will
continue
to
be
held
like
they
are
today
without
the
public
being
in
the
meetings,
and
so
I
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
future,
but
certainly
they
they
may
change,
but
they
have
not
changed
yeah.
Let's
relate
to
that.
H
Yeah
he's
allowed
local
autonomy
as
far
as
the
county
judges
and
the
facilities
that
are
owned
or
operated
by
the
local
governments,
and
they
still
can
declare
an
emergency
and
continue
what
they
have
done
with
the
masking,
with
the
social
distancing
and
all
the
other
things
that
have
happened
in
the
past.
Okay.