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From YouTube: Planning and Zoning Committee Meeting 041620
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Planning and Zoning Committee Meeting 041620
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B
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G
J
K
A
L
B
L
B
You
so
there
is
about
a
30
second
lag
from
what
we
would
use
here
in
front
of
you
and
what
we
will
cast
the
general
public,
and
this
is
not
only
citizens
will
be
allowed
to
comment.
They
will
be
given
an
opportunity
to
reach
it
when
their
item
comes
up
and
we
have
a
stopover
who
will
be
taking.
These
calls
they'll
unmute
themselves,
and
let
you
know
that
there's
somebody
on
the
line
that
has
a
comment
to
me
know
if
you
want.
A
B
B
B
For
this
item
is
River
Hills
investment
and
the
owner
applicant
and
the
representative
for
Stan's
engineering.
This
is
property
about
16
acres,
located
south
of
book,
I
Drive
in
West,
Wally
Drive,
we'll
have
maps
here
in
a
second,
the
request
is
to
go
from
r2
to
r1
single-family
manufactured
housing,
and
the
proposed
use
two
is
residential.
B
56
letters
were
sent
there,
zero
in
support
and
0
against
here's
the
general
vicinity
of
the
where
this
is
located
and
here's
a
closer
zoomed
in
of
the
location
of
this
property
here
is
a
plaque
depicting
the
extent
of
the
boundaries
of
the
property
in
question,
and
here
is
the
current
zoning.
As
you
can
see,
it
is
currently
zoned
art
and
they're
desiring
to
one
image
like
the
property
just
to
the
north,
and
here
is
a
map
of
the
excuse
me.
B
This
certain
condition
is
that
we
support
the
proposed
own
change,
the
proposed
the
reason
why
we
supported
it
conforms
with
the
future
land
use
designations,
it's
compatible
with
the
uses
in
the
area,
their
residential
there's,
similar
types
of
residential
in
the
area
and
two
proposed
property
complex
with
the
requirements.
So,
if
you
decide
to
make
a
motion,
here
is
a
framework
for
you
to
do
so.
I
N
A
O
A
A
B
B
A
Thank
you
we'll
do
it
that
way,
but
so
far
right
everybody's
in
favor,
all
the
Commission
members
in
the
present.
So
the
this
particular
item
6a
has
been
approved.
Next
I
have
a
6b.
This
is
a
many
new
zoning
map.
The
city
laredo
by
rezoning
lot
was
blocked.
One
of
the
mulch
mulch
and
flat
unit
2,
located
at
95
15
farm-to-market
1472
from
r2
to
be
for
the
proposed
uses,
a
restaurant
with
a
drive-thru
serving
alcohol
early,
the
site
is
vacant
land
and
the
staff
supports
the
proposed
zone.
Change
Kirby,
you
ready
for
your
presentation.
A
B
B
B
Staff
supports
the
zone
change
now,
although
it
is
not
in
conformance
with
the
future
land
use
designation,
it
does.
It
is
surrounded
by
that
before
right
there
on
the
corner
so,
and
it
also
meets
the
requirements
for
the
beef,
for
the
requires
that
we
have
for
a
problem
for
the
poor,
the
ordinance
for
the
zone.
N
Q
A
J
Q
J
B
Jorge
on
this
item,
there
is
an
excuse
me
sorry,
commissioner,
about
my
birth.
We
don't.
If
you
comply,
they
don't
comply
with
the
requirements
so,
whereas
with
the
plats,
we
typically
have
comments
where
we
tailored
their.
You
might
have
some
specific
things
for
them
to
do
for
their
project
this
for
the
zoning
we
do.
We
don't
do
that
same
thing,
so
it's
either.
They
comply
and
rittany
approval
because
they
comply
or
they
don't
comply.
K
B
Then
that
goes
beyond
the
scope
of,
as
you
will
have
to
get,
they
will
have
to
with
text
up
under
access
with
mines
roads.
So
this
doesn't
grant
any
kind
of
access,
and
we've
made
that
clear
to
the
applicant.
That's
a
separate
issue
that
they
have
to
deal
with
next
time,
and
this
doesn't
grant
them
access
to
the
road.
K
B
B
L
R
A
F
A
B
No
problem
and
just
reminder:
the
customers
are
not
speaking
just
to
mute
your
mic.
It
helps
us
pretty
much
to
maintain
the
audio
quality
yeah
Jenna
item.
60
is
a
public
hearing
and
recommendation
of
an
ordinance
for
zone
age.
26
2020
the
applicant
is
Juan
Ignacio
Garcia.
The
property
is
located
in
the
Del
Mar
Hill
subdivision.
B
F
B
B
B
My
there
are
already
residential
properties
that
pull
in
and
out
on
the
Delmar,
but
adding
an
office
use
would
we
could
teach
would
be
more
people
pulling
it
know
and
and
reversing
on
a
Delmar
is
not
something
that
would
be
safe
to
do,
and
you
don't
have
the
ability
on
that
small
of
a
lot
to
provide
access
what
they
could
come
in
of
an
accessing
out.
Another
access
safely
do
things.
B
There
are
other
commercial
properties
on
Delmar
that
does
that
and
as
well,
although
we
weren't
given
the
layout
of
what
they
proposed,
are
we
anticipated
they
would
help.
Our
key
is
because
they
wouldn't
besides
a
lot,
would
make
it
very
difficult
to
have
all
the
required
parking
there
on
that
one
line.
So,
for
those
reasons,
staff
does
not
support
changing
the
zoning
on
this
property.
Here
is
the
proposed
motion
language
that
you
can
use
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
we're
here
to
answer.
B
J
I
J
B
This
is
a
little
different
situation,
we're
not
supporting
as
staff
a
change
in
the
zone
of
this
location,
because
we
anticipate
that
there
would
be
issues
with
traffic
already
where
delmar
comes
to
a
chill
point,
where
there's
an
intersection
right
by
that
creates
conflict
points
for
people
trying
to
pull
in
and
out
of
this
from
from
going
east
and
west
different
directions.
So
we're
trying
to
minimize
the
conflicts
and
and
be
a
challenges
that
will
take
place
and
in
our
estimate,
changing
the
zoning
would
create
more
challenges
than
it
were.
J
House
is
located,
but
houses
a
from
where
Delmar
Bullock
was
four
lanes
to
two
lanes
and
at
5:00
p.m.
that
traffic
clogs
up
their
way
as
you
go
from
west
to
east
the
on
403
just
outside
of
the
boundary,
that's
where
no
more
westbound
traffic
or
eastbound
traffic
from
four
lanes
to
two
late
earth,
two
lanes
to
one
that
one
way
going
mm-hmm
and
every
day
at
5:00,
starting
at
5:00
p.m.
J
There's
office
offices
there
yeah,
but
this
is
different.
This
is
in
the
middle
of
a
this
is
a
residential
area.
This
is
not
even
coming
close
to
being
an
ro
area,
but
right
here
where
you're
at
you're
gonna
have
you're
gonna
have
issues
whether
even
with
enough
parking
but
you're
already
funding
into
the
problem.
G
A
A
A
Here
that
commissioner
days
is
trying
to
say,
is
that
specifically
what
this
Lots
located?
If
you
change
it
from
let's
say
a
single-family
residential
to
a
multi-family
or
where
you're
gonna
have
multiple
uses
of
office
people
coming
in
and
out
the
traffic
flow
right.
There
is
a
choke
point
which
is
gonna,
create
conflicts
and,
and
that's
what
he's
trying
to
say
and
that's
and
I
and
that's
I
agree
with
him.
I
mean
many
of
us
have
driven
through
there
for
30
on
you'll,
see
that
that
becomes
a
big
Chuck,
a
choke
point.
There.
J
A
J
A
Let's
do
this,
this
is
still
a
public
hearing.
You,
you
kind
of
noted
your
concern,
which
is
you
don't
recommend
you
know
you're,
not
agreeing
with
staff.
That's
your
consider
your
issue
right
now.
Yes,
all
right!
So
let's
do
this.
This
is
a
public
hearing.
Let
me
ask
and
see
if
there's
anybody
on
the
phone
who
wishes
to
speak
to
this
matter,
either
for
or
against.
N
K
This
is
mr.
Mingus
I
would
like
to
I,
would
like
mr.
chairman
to
see
a
something
that
some
type
of
plans
or
development
that
that
mr.
Garcia
wants
to
build
there.
That's
the
only
way
that
that
I
would
I
would
support,
or
probably
deny
the
reason
being.
Is
that
and
that's
why
I
mentioned
on
the
previous
item
that
it's
this
for
us
better
to
see
what
they're
gonna
build,
even
though
I'm
aware
that
were
changed
in
the
zoning,
but
we
need
to
know
what
they're
gonna
built
there.
K
K
D
L
A
H
D
D
N
R
F
B
A
Nobody
waiting
on
the
line
as
far
as
we
know
all
right.
Well,
this
is
a
public
hearing
if
I
understood
correctly
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
because
sometimes
it's
difficult
to
hear
the
people
on
the
phone
the
applicant
is
willing
to
table
the
item
is
that
correct?
That
was
correct.
All
right!
Yes,.
B
A
A
A
Think
it's
pretty
clear-cut,
I
mean
this
is
one
of
those
items
that,
as
you're
going
through
the
land
element
gordon-reed
you
in
it
is
one
that
really
doesn't
need
to
come
over
here.
It's
an
administrative
matter
in
my
opinion,
but
since
the
ordinance
has
not
been
changed,
we've
done
enough
of
these.
Where
I
think
we're
pretty
clear
on
what
the
action
request.
It
is
I've.
N
P
A
A
A
E6
e6e
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Laredo
by
rezoning
approximately
one
hundred
seventy
nine
acres
located
south
of
fm14.
Seventy
two
and
west
of
duck
would
not
drive
from
AG
to
r1
a
to
him.
I'm,
sorry
from
AG
and
r18
to
m1.
The
proposed
use
is
the
knight
manufacturing.
The
site
is
currently
vacant
land
and
undeveloped,
and
we
had
eleven
notices,
send
out
I,
don't
see
any
in
favor
or
against.
There
might
be
an
update
there,
but
the
staff
does
support
his
own
change.
There.
A
B
Staff
recommendation
is
to
support
the
proposed
zone
change,
although
it's
not
in
strict
conformance
with
the
future
land
use
designation,
it
does.
It
is
compatible
with
other
uses
in
the
area.
Now
there
it
is
residential
nearby,
but
our
ordinance
does
have
in
place
the
requirement
to
build
a
buffer
when
you
have
when
you
have
industrial
next
to
residential.
So
this
were
to
be
approved
by
or
a
piece
in,
a
positive
recommendation
to
the
council
and
council
approves
it.
There
will
be
a
requirement
for
them
to
bumper
their
property
that
is
adjacent
residential.
A
K
Wall
and
fence
that
he
had
to
build,
including
the
yeah,
the
trash
holes
or
the
or
the
distance
in
between
the
the
residential
and
whatever
is
going
to
be
built
in
that
area,
because
I
would
hate
to
have
that
approve.
And
then
we
have
the
community
members
from
the
resonation
area
coming
to
complain
and
zoning
and
speaking
against
whatever
they're
gonna
build.
There.
B
Yeah,
that
is
a
good
point
and
a
lot
of
the
challenges
we
have
where
residential
and
industrial
have
mixed,
particularly
in
the
northern
part
of
the
city,
is
where
residential
has
come
after,
where
the
industrial
was
already
there
and
then
there's
nothing,
there's
not
a
requirement
you
can
make
on
the
industrial
once
the
way.
If
it's
the
residential
moving
near
the
industrial
here
is
a
case.
That's
flipped
where
the
industrial
is
coming
in
second,
and
there
are
requirements
for
them
to
buffer
in
our
in
our
existing
ordinance.
They
won't
be
able
to
build
a
Jason.
A
A
A
Opec
fence
that
is
required.
My
recommendation
on
this
would
be
and
I
don't
know
the
elevations
on
this
thing,
but
normally,
if
you're
gonna
do
m1
and
you're
gonna
have
trucks,
truck
movements
and
stuff
that
particular
area
that
is
got
residential
on
it.
I
would
recommend
that
they
permit
up
as
much
as
they
can
put
the
fence
up
so
where
you
have
a
barrier,
that's
at
least
ten
feet
high
and
that
they
also
plant
trees
so
that
the
trees
can
break
the
noise
down
for
that
residential
area.
I.
K
See
also,
mr.
chairman,
a
I'm
looking
at
the
plan
and
not
in
the
area
that
they're
gonna
be
accessing
the
this
property.
It's
pretty
small
compared
to
the
property
that
we're
gonna
approve
and
that
might
meet
conflict
with
fear
with
the
entrance
right
next
to
the
residential.
So,
yes,
I
think
we
need
to
put
some
restrictions
there
and
the
engineer
to
know
about
it
before
we
approve
it.
I
mean
I
agree
with
her
with
Kirby
I
mean
it
should
be
approved,
but
with
conditions
that
the
engineer
in
the
owner
knows
about
it,
because.
B
B
I
put
a
clarification
when
you
approve
zoning
ordinance
you
there
aren't
conditions
in
this
case
that
you
can
add
so
you're
you're
I'm,
not
approving
you're,
sending
a
recommendation
to
Council
who
will
make
the
final
decision
on
whether
or
not
and
they
can't
place
conditions
on
this
is
an
unconditional
you,
sperm
that
are
especially
use
permits.
So
so
it's
either
approved
as
a
bright
or
it
won't
be
approved.
But
if
it
is
approved
there
are
requirements
already
in
the
zoning
ordinance
that
we
require
them
to
ensign
bar.
A
Yeah
but
I
guess
around
for
a
while.
We've
seen
this
scenario
before
where
you
have
issues
in
that
area,
where
there's
another
community
that
had
very
similar
problems-
and
let
me
tell
you
it
was
a
big
headache.
That's
why
we're
trying
to
mitigate
mitigate
as
much
as
we
can.
You
know
where
we're
having
residential
and
industrial
uses.
A
A
N
O
Jeremy
Wayne
man's
here,
I
heard
the
backdrop
and
yes,
we,
the
owner,
I,
went
over
this
personally
with
him
yesterday
the
conditions
that
are
outlined
one
two,
three
and
four-
he
understands
that
the
buffer
is
required
in
accordance
with
the
ordinance.
He
also
understands
that
the
ordinance
also
requires
an
opaque
wall
and
is
completely
on
board
with
that
there's
another
natural
buffer
that
will
occur
here.
It's
not
shown
on
those
maps
because
it
doesn't
show
some
fog
rafi,
but
there's
a
natural
low
that
descends
from
the
minds
road.
It
comes
along
the
residential
area.
O
A
O
What
I'm
saying
is
that
there
is
a
natural
low
in
that
area
and
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
they
wanna
as
I
as
I
reach
the
land
I'm
gonna
make
try
and
push
I'm
going
to
and
I'm,
not
going
to
trust
me
I'm
going
to
push
that
land
below
so
that
it
is
within
that
that
hundred
foot
buffer
that
y'all
are
talking
about.
Oh
there's
not
going
to
be
anything
to
be
built
there
or
parked
there.
Well,.
A
A
That's
infirmary
some
trees
that
as
they
grow,
they
will
act
as
a
as
a
noise
breaker
for
that
subdivision,
because
you
know
truck
movements,
179
acres
of
truck
movements
is
gonna,
generate
a
lot
of
noise
trucks,
don't
move
during
the
day,
only
they
move
at
night
and
then
all
hours.
So
is
that
a
possibility
that
something
like
that
can
be
done
to.
G
K
Comment
real
quick
mr.
chairman,
if
you
can
allow
me
sure,
where
the
that
subdivision,
where
is
that
so
duration
graining
and
that's
one
of
my
questions
and
the
second
is
that,
is
that
a
creek
or
it's
just
a
terrain
that
is
gonna,
be
filled
during
the
construction,
because,
if
that
that
particular
Creek,
that's
where
that's
an
area
that
receives
water
from
the
subdivision,
he
can't
he
can't
do
anything
with
that.
Rickman.
K
Yeah
I
think
that
this
is
a
good
time
to
bring
conditions,
and
one
of
them
would
be
a
as
mr.
chairman.
If
we
can,
we
can
ask
for
a
temperature
fans
in
there
and
that
it's
a
concrete
that
way
will
mitigate
the
noise.
We're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
movement
in
that
property.
Again.
We're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
people
that
are
not
gonna,
be
very
happy
there
exactly
well.
L
Well,
head
get
you
just
to
Kirby's
Frank,
because
we've
gotthis
before
that's
what
my
understanding
is
is
that
once
they
come
in
with
the
master
plan
or
preliminary
I
said,
isn't
that
plan
that
we
started
it
sir,
to
try
to
push
these
items?
It's
not
going
to
don't
change
and
that's
that's
we're
gonna
make
them
do
a
see.
You
beat
no.
A
I
mean
you're
right,
I.
Think
the
issue
here
is
that
everybody's
just
trying
to
say
hey,
you
know
we're
trying
to
do
the
right
thing.
We're
just
asking
you
I
mean
there
is
an
ordinance
like
Kirby
said
in
place,
which
mandates
the
7-foot
opaque
fence.
What
I
asked
of
the
engineer
was
just
a
little
bit
extra,
which
was
obviously
some
trees.
That
could
also
be
a
noise
mitigator
and
he
said
that
it
is
impossible.
He
kind
of
agreed
to
that
too.
A
L
T
T
That's
that's
adjacent
to
this
property
that
they
are
not
even
really
going
to
be
given
a
meaningful
opportunity
to
contribute,
and
in
fact
I
would
go
so
far
as
to
say
that
there
should
be
a
community
meeting
within
that
neighborhood
to
let
them
know
what's
being
proposed
so
that
we
can
get
their
meaningful
feedback
before
we
make
a
decision
on
changing
clothes.
Only
on
this
and
I
think
that
we
already
know
that
we
have
had
a
history
of
problems
with
this
type
of
development
next
to
residential
I.
T
K
E
With
that
doing,
as
I
wanna
comment,
yes
go
ahead:
repair
the
Chairman,
neoprene
material
español,
para
Kimo,
Christian
used
to
have
a
portal
to
serve
rodeo
the
park
industry
on
Reutimann
necesitamos
buscar
mucho
is
the
protocol
allah
familias
in
no
equipo
carnage.
No
creo
que
tenemos
que
hacer
publicidad
El
Paso
truce,
con
las
familias
de
con
elvis
in
Darien.
You
see
me
propuesta,
para
para:
la
misma,
cosa,
Serato,
SI,
él,
podrÃa,
voluntary
I
meant
a
poner
una
table
and
Sigma
J
got
Mazda
buho
Sigma
J
got
massiveness
your
Minister
token.
E
Cory
dope
was
poor,
Elmer
reglas
de
la
ski
guys.
Okay,
si
podemos
a
scimitar
este.
I
sting
investment.
They
will,
they
say:
Rojo
I
can
tell
we
went
for
the
comunidad.
It
was
chaos.
It
was
presenting
me
for
project
to
the
Kaimuki
Daria
Arroyo,
the
kombuchas
areas
planning.
Sorry.
Yes,
the
ethos
is
por
el
la
votación.
It's
a
serially
propuesta
para
bueno.
Si
le
studies
placed
upon
a
table;
gracias,
gracias,
Ralph,.
B
If
you
could
meet
yourself
and
do
that
and
then
and
then
bring
it
back
on
when
US
response
absolutely
once
again,
and
just
while
he's
doing
that,
it's
just
clarification.
What
we
did
for
noticing
we
did.
What
we
always
do
did
the
requirement
where
we
notice
within
300
feet
of
this
letters
were
sent
out
when
we
back,
we
answer
their
questions,
we
give
them
an
opportunity
to
send
the
letters
and
then
we
also
advise
that
they
be
able
to
call
in
every
this
meeting.
So
I
know
it's.
U
J
A
T
Ahead,
Carlos,
okay,
so
back
to
what
Kirby's
point
is
and
I
I
am
aware
that
you
did
the
minimum
that
you
have
to
do
in
order
to
give
notice
what
I'm
saying
is
that
is
the
minimum,
meaning
that
there
can
be
more.
That
can
be
done,
especially
when
we
know
that
we're
doing
something
pretty
dramatic,
as
here
going
from
residential
select
manufacturing
and
the
only
doctor,
but
typically
like
he
approved
these
things
when
it's
something
that
is
along
the
lines
with
what
is
already
there.
T
Things
like
that
and
I
understand
that
aspects
of
this,
our
agricultural,
zoned
agricultural,
and
so
it's
not
completely
residential
around
it.
But
I
think
that
there's
enough
residential
there
that
it
merits
doing
more
than
just
the
bare
minimum
and
I
think
that,
as
a
commission
I
think
we
should
direct
the
city
staff
to
do
more
than
just
a
bare
minimum.
When
it
comes
to
something
like
this.
K
Comment,
mr.
Sherman,
hey
mr.
Thomas
I,
because
I
would,
on
these
last
three
items
they
there
have
been
the
conversation
about,
but
what
is
gonna
be
built
there
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
time
to
to
to
ask
Kirby
that
any
time
that
we
bring
something
like
this
allele,
we
should
know
what
what
they
pretend
to
build
on
it
or
how
they
pretend
to
develop
it
against
approving
something
like
this.
K
With
with
the
community
and
with
with
members
that
are
residents,
it
affects
them
and
and
what
curve
is
saying
I
mean
there
might
be
an
ordinance
yes,
but
we
also
have
the
right
where
we
have
the
the
moral
right
to
to
add
more
conditions
to
it.
So
I
think
that,
because
of
the
the
three
previous
items,
they
were
all
related
as
well
sewn
and
we
needed
to
know
what
was
going
to
be
built
there,
so
that
doesn't
that
comment
present.
J
Sherman,
yes,
occasionally
I
have
a
caller.
Can
I
can
I
answer
that
because
there's
it's
impossible
for
someone
to
come
up
with
a
plan
on
a
zone
change
you
don't
even
know
what
you're
gonna
do
in
the
property.
Maybe
you
want
to
just
resell
it
to
someone
else
and
then,
who
knows
what
they're
gonna
do
I
mean
there's
an
appropriate
time
and
place
for
all
these
details
to
to
come
forward
not
in
the
zone.
Change
I
mean
for
the
lack
of
saving
time.
It's
just
a
zone
change,
yes
or
no.
That's
it
keep
it
simple.
J
B
Good
as
staff
when,
when
we
speak
with
an
applicant,
we
do
ask
them
what
they
intend
to
do
and
we
asked
them
for
plants
now
they're
not
required
to
submit
plans.
There
are
a
few
cases
where
the
ordinance
does
require
that,
but
in
most
cases
it
doesn't
require
them
to
submit
any
plant
will
be
approved.
B
B
So
we
always
ask,
though
anything
if
they
give
us
those,
we
will
always
present
them
to
the
Commission,
so
the
Commission
has
as
much
information
as
possible,
but
I
want
to
be
very
clear
on
this,
where,
unless
the
ordinance
states
clearly
Beach-
and
you
know
that
in
a
few
places
with
conditional
or
special
use
permits
the
Commission,
ultimately,
the
City
Council,
who
approves
this-
does
not
have
the
ability
to
ask
for
conditions.
They
either
approve
it
or
they
don't
approve
it
and
say.
B
A
W
Have
a
quick
comment:
I
know
anything
that
I
want
to
add.
It
is
really
the
thing
that
kind
of
confuses
me
and
I'm
sure
it
is
going
to
confuse
the
applicants
is
when
we
get
into
this
process.
I
feel
like
the
finish
line
is
always
changing
and
I
would
just
I
would
like
to
see
more
consistency
and
to
prefer
to
the
applicant
I
just
feel.
W
A
N
O
Chairman
mr.
Chairman
I
wanted
to
let
you
all
know
that
first
of
all,
this
is
this
area
that
there's
industrial
to
the
south.
You
know
some
this
area
is
not
a
stranger
to
industrial.
You
know
that's
important
to
note
whenever
you
know
the
people
that
have
moved
in
here,
the
this
area,
the
international
industrial
area,
surrounded
them
and
has
been
jacent
to
them.
The.
D
U
O
Is
we
will
follow
the
ordinance
which
requires
the
walls
and
the
buffering
that
you
require,
but
we
can't
do
that
yet,
because
I
can't
move
or
with
platting
until
I
have
a
zone
change,
that's
appropriate
for
the
planning
and
then
staff
is
is
listening
to
you
and
you
can
imagine
when
we
come
forward
with
a
preliminary
plan
there.
Their
initial
comments
are
going
to
reflect.
You
know
your
concerns.
O
No
question
whatsoever
and
you'll
have
a
chance
to
address
those
when
we
we
have
a
preliminary
plan
but
as
as
a
director
pointed
out
that
it's
not
a
place
where
it
here
but
I'm,
letting
you
know
the
lay
of
the
land.
This
has
the
help
itself
due
to
your
concerns
and
we'll
do
whatever
we
can
to
address
your
concerns.
Okay,.
M
O
A
L
A
A
Okay,
all
those
against
I'm
against
it
all
right
we
have
one
against
motion
carries
in.
Thank
you
all
Oris
is
against
it.
Okay.
Next
item
item
six
f:
this
is
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
generator
by
rezoning,
approximately
eleven
point,
six
three
acres
and
it
is
located
south
of
FM,
1472
and
east
of
and
people
from
AG
to
m1.
The
proposed
uses
light
manufacturing,
it's
currently
vacant
land
and
the
staff
supports
the
proposal.
Jane
Irby,
your
presentation,
please,
as.
B
The
proposed
here
proposers
here
is
live
manufacturing,
and
this
is
the
general
vicinity
very
close
to
the
previous
one.
Epic
1472
northwest
side
of
the
city
here
is
a
view
of
the
property
parcel
in
question.
Here
is
a
view
of
the
the
property
from
the
road.
It
is
a
vacant
property.
Here
is
a
view
of
the
plat.
B
B
B
L
A
C
A
A
B
S
A
A
F
J
A
Carlos
you're
voting
against
right
all
right.
Everybody
else
is
in
favor.
The
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
item
six
G.
This
is
the
many
new
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Laredo
by
authorizing
the
special
use
for
restaurants
selling
alcohol,
a
lot
for
a
block
one.
They
start
mostly
subdivision
located
in
50,
507
McPherson,
and
this
this
is
currently
the
site
of
a
Albatros
indoor,
golf
or
800k.
The
staffs
recommendation
on
this
item
is
does
not
support
the
request
for
an
su
P
I
believe
this
property
did
not
have
adequate
parking.
A
B
Here's
the
general
area,
your
Macpherson,
just
off
of
a
person,
here's
a
aerial
view
of
the
property
here
is
a
picture
of
the
property
as
it
and
here's
an
aerial
view
with
an
angled
area
view
just
you
can
get
a
little
view
of
the
parking
the
way
it's
arranged
there,
the
front
in
the
back
and
here's
a
view
of
the
proposed
site
plan.
Here
is
an
example
where
we
asked
for
details
and
they
were
provided.
B
Okay,
so
this
is
their
statement
of
their
intent
to
be
open
during
the
inverse
of
operation
and
the
parking
of
a
happiness.
Here
is
the
current
zoning
and
it's
currently
zoned
and
here
is
a
view
of
the
future
land
use
which
is
neighborhood.
Mixed-Use
staff
does
not
support
the
request
for
this
su
P
and
that's
because
it
doesn't
meet
the
requirements
of
the
ordinance.
H
A
N
X
A
X
A
X
A
X
Right
and
if
I'm
allowed
me
to
say
something,
sir
right
now,
this
is
a
place
and
it's
not
gonna
be
full
of
people.
So
I
know
parking
could
be
a
problem,
but
this
is
a
place
with
seven
and
also
probably
40
30
to
40
people
at
the
most
Jupiter,
sir
I.
Don't
think
it's
gonna
be
more
people
than
that.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
a
place
for
people
there.
E
T
U
J
N
K
L
Yes,
we
have
a
very
similar
issue
in
immediately
adjacent
the
Mexican
restaurant.
That
was
also
your
restaurant
I.
Think
we
resolve
it
amicably
with
them.
This
place
has
been
a
challenge,
as
everybody
here
knows,
since
they
first
opened
it,
then
somebody
else
wants
to
give
it
a
try.
I
think
we
should
work
them
all
right.
I.
J
A
A
V
L
Y
Y
Y
L
Chair
one
quick
point
of
information
for
all
of
us:
we
have,
we
heard
these
same
concerns
and
they
and
they
are
legitimate
from
the
Mexican
restaurant-
that's
just
north,
but
they
assured
us
that
it
was
a
restaurant
that
certain
that
serve
alcohol
and
it
was
not
going
to
be
a
bar.
This
face
says,
has
published
at
least
proposed
their
hours
that
exceed
11:00
p.m.
on
Friday
Saturday
that
correct
Kirby.
B
A
E
E
A
A
Yes,
all
right
6h
is
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
city
in
Laredo
by
rezoning,
approximately
13
acres
out
of
abstract
for
for
546,
located
south
of
Domas
ensued
from
our
1a
to
our
1b.
This
is
a
vacant
land
and
that
proposed
uses
residential
and
the
staff
supports
the
year
zone,
change
all
right,
Kirby,
yes,.
B
Sir,
here's,
the
general
location,
an
aerial
map,
more
zoomed
in
almost
else
or
you
can
see
a
view
of
the
property
as
it
currently
is,
and
here's
a
image
of
the
plat,
the
current
zoning
r1a-
and
this
is
the
future
land
use.
It's
neighborhood
mixed
use
and
also
residential
staff
supports
the
zone
change
it's
in
conformance
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan
designation
as
well.
It's
compatible
with
the
surrounding
uses
in
the
neighborhood.
You
have
any
questions
we're
here
to
answer.
Here's
the
language
you
can
use
to
propose.
A
N
Z
A
A
A
Anybody
against
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
Next
item
is
public
hearing.
Many
new
zoning
ordinance
City
lorina
by
repeating
Norton,
is
2018
0
168
authorizing
expression
whose
permit
for
restaurants
serving
alcohol
at
lot.
64
65
block
North
Creek
subdivision
located
at
Hillside
Road.
The
applicant
seeks
any
permit
to
change
the
permit
holder
decided
was
tabled
in
February
20th.
The
staff
does
not
support
this
application.
A
B
A
quick
review,
here's
the
location,
the
city,
it's
1010,
hillside,
Road,
here's
a
view,
view
of
the
property.
Here's
another
area,
Lucien!
That's
here!
Here's
you!
There
were
several
pictures.
I
just
pulled
out
the
one
that
highlights
the
biggest
issue
with
the
parking.
Not
only
is
there
not
not
what
the
parking
has
laid
out.
Doesn't
the
requirements
and
meaning
speak
that
more?
B
H
B
L
L
B
So
they
la
you,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
but
they
have
not
changed
they
the
they
have
not
changed
the
amount
of
square
space,
they're
utilizing
and
not
change
the
number
of
parking
spaces
that
they
that
doesn't
affect
a
number
of
park
space
they
need.
So
in
other
words,
they
still
need
30
parking
spaces,
but
they're
only
showing
22,
but
of
those
22
they're
showing
only
18
actually
meet
the
requirements
of
our
of
our
parking
ordinance,
so
they're
actually
missing
12
new
spaces
at
that
location.
B
In
addition
to
that,
one
of
the
other
things
they
didn't
meet
was
that
they
were.
They
were
closer
than
300
feet,
which
is
the
requirement
they
have
to
be
farther
than
300
feet
or
a
door
from
residential
only
280
feet.
So
those
are
the
reasons.
Staff
doesn't
support
and
Ally
am
I
correct
that
they
didn't
change
the
usage
of
their
square
footage.
It
didn't
affect
how
many
parking
spaces
thing
that
correct
la.
We
can't
hear
you.
I
B
AA
AA
A
AA
AB
A
I
K
K
A
L
A
L
A
Why
six
cars,
you
know
I
mean
you
know,
I
mean
I,
think
right
now,
based
on
the
site
plan
that
they
submitted
and
it
looks
like
about
1,900
square
feet
inside
so
based
on
what
they
submitted,
and
that
dictates
the
number
of
parkings
and
stuff.
But
she's
come
up
to
26.
You
know:
that's
a
heck
of
an
improvement
now
they'll
disappointed
that
somewhere.
Somehow
that
particular
is
submitted,
for
whatever
reason
is
misplaced
and
I
was
really
hoping
that,
because
we
did
ask
for
her
to
come
back
with
something
that
this
Commission
could
see.
Never.
V
AB
Way
table
okay,
mean
hombres,
Raquel,
Rivera
yo,
every
dido
important
area
to
initiate
a
killing
for
almost
36
years,
okay
and
I'm
here
to
object--
to
the
sale
of
alcohol
on
this
place
of
business.
We
refine
in
a
quiet
residential
area.
Yes,
when
these
businesses
serve
alcohol,
chaos
ensues,
we
have
the
worst
worst
experience.
AB
AB
AB
A
K
K
Yeah,
it's
real
quick.
The
I've
seen
that
those
business
people
have
been
have
been
renovating
the
building
and
I
made
a
little
insight
into
what
they're
gonna
have
in
in
pretty
much
where
they're
gonna
have
is
what
you
would
see
at
a
daddy's
restaurant
I.
Don't
I,
don't
really
care
too
much
about
knowing
about
their
business
and
I
know
that
that
Raul
made
a
real
good
comment.
We
cannot
hold
anybody
from
some
from
trying
to
make
a
living
even
now
that
that
they
have
put
so
much
money
in
there.
K
So
we
need
to
know
and
allow
the
the
restaurant
to
open,
I
think
the
allocation
has
always
been
a
restaurant
and
service
for
the
community
and
it
is
surrounded
by
by
businesses.
The
the
only
people
that
leave
us
in
the
back
and
in
and
I
think
that
doesn't
allow
were
for
us
to
withhold
a
an
approval
on
this
particular
item.
All
right,
I'm
ready
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
this
item.
You
have
a
motion.
V
A
W
AB
You
they
never
never
abided
by
the
origins
of
their
restrictions
of
loud
outdoor
life
at
your
music,
and
it
took
multiple,
multiple
attendance
from
us
to
speak
up
at
the
City
Hall
council
chambers,
podium
once
to
the
Loretto
Police
Department
and
multiple
citations.
In
order
for
them
to
be
in
compliance.
This
was
unacceptable.
AB
We
know
this
new
business
has
new
owners,
but
this
is
no
guarantee.
We
will
not
insulate
once
again
promises
of
compliance
adsorbate.
Now,
yes,
they
are
violated
later
again.
We
object
when
alcohol
consumption
consumption
is
involved,
temple
became
and
we
will
not
allowed
from
peaceful
life
in
our
own
home
being
disrupted.
Once
again,
like
I
said
it
was,
it
was
chaos.
It
was
a
tortured,
nightly,
torture
with
very
loud
music.
We
humbly
ask
to
place
yourself
in
our
position
and
then
the
tip
of
the
iceberg
was
on
March,
the
8th.
AB
G
A
AB
A
K
A
B
A
A
L
Clearly
that
they
also
have
published
an
11:00
p.m.
closing
time
and
that's
not
our
purview
and,
however,
we
can
lift
this
up
to
with
code
enforcement
or
LPD
or
whoever
should
be
patrolling
this,
because
that's
critical
to
our
approval
of
these
three
restaurants,
except
they're,
closing
9210
there.
Even
if
they've
got
bars,
they're
really,
restaurants
that
serve
alcohol
very.
A
A
B
Sir,
here's,
the
general
location,
Long
Meadow,
Avenue,
here's
a
zoom
in
the
property,
it's
currently
undeveloped,
but
it
does
have
some
storage
on
the
property
and
here's
another
view
of
it.
Here's
the
layout
that
was
submitted
by
the
applicant
of
what
they
want
to
do
and
it's
basically
an
event
space
to
host
parties
and
private
events.
L
B
B
You
will
want
to
get
clarification
but
I'm,
assuming
that
that
is
12
midnight,
but
we
need
to
get
clarification
from
the
applicant
which
they'll
be
on
the
line
later
for
you
to
ask
that
question,
that's
great,
but
this
is
not.
These
aren't
the
conditions
we
are
submitting.
These
are
what
the
applicant
has
suggested.
They
want
to
do
so.
Just
making
you
aware
of
that
I
mean
I
would
assume.
Well,
anyway,
you
can
ask
them
and
they're
only
providing
15
parking
spaces.
So
this
is
the
current
zoning
of
the
area.
B
It
is
b1,
and
this
is
the
future
Land
Use.
Future
land
use
suggests
that
this
area
will
be
neighborhood
mixed-use
now
whose
staff
does
not
support
and
the
reason
we
don't
support
it
for
this
use
for
a
for
a
event.
Space
like
this,
you
would
need
a
conditional
use
permit
in
this
zone,
especially
use
permit.
B
Now
still
there
are
requirements,
though,
on
parking
and-
and
we
feel
like
the
yes
here,
although
it's
a
good
use,
a
lot
of
still
many
residential
uses
of
G
stand
within
the
area
that
the
parking
is
particularly
important
because
an
event
center
like
this,
it
has
the
has
the
potential
as
well
many
people,
and
that
is
gonna.
You
know,
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
school
of
apartment.
So
there
are
a
couple
ways
you
can
calculate
the
park.
B
The
ordinance
allows
to
either
be
calculated
by
total
square
footage
utilize
four
by
the
number
of
occupants
that
could
be
in
in
the
building,
and
so
it's
either
94.
If
you
were
to
go
for
the
higher
or
it's
40,
if
you
were
to
go
by
lower
so
so,
40
is
the
is
the
lower
option
of
how
much
parking
they
should
provide
and
they're
only
providing
15,
so
they're
lacking
25
spaces.
K
Have
a
comment:
yes,
mr.
Sherman,
the
actually.
What
they're
building
is
an
assembly
event
home
in
in
415
Penn
markings
I
mean
they
we're
gonna
create
a
majority
for
the
for
the
community.
It's
gonna
be
pretty
dangerous,
because
most
of
the
parties
are
gonna
be
done
on
the
street
and
metal.
It's
a
it's
a
very
transportation.
N
AC
AC
A
B
N
With
the
lesser
option
of
that
this
thing
at
this
time
we're
going
with
the
lesser
option
based
on
the
square
footage
of
2828
square
feet,
you
would
actually
leave
ninety
four
spaces
because
they're
being
calculated
based
on
occupancy
plus
the
seats
it's
a
minimum
of
forty
stuff
is
going
lower.
But
regardless
you,
you
only
have
the
fifteen
I.
AC
B
N
AC
U
W
I
A
A
This
is
a
public
hearing
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Laredo
by
authorizing
a
special
use
permit
for
townhomes
and
lot
one
two
and
three
block
to
kill
ad
height
subdivision
unit,
two
located
at
ten
thousand
zero.
Two
and
ten
thousand
you
were
twelve
Bob
bulik
loop
and
4104
look
whale
Road
all
right.
The
proposed
uses
townhomes
the
the
applicant
is
a
lady.
The
engineer
is
those
kind
of
steel
uh-huh
and
the
Edward
Bethlehem.
Where
is
the
owner
applicant?
A
A
L
B
B
Yes,
here
is
the
general
location
on
the
side
of
the
burrito.
Here
is
a
zoom
in
aerial
showing
the
vacant
property
as
it
currently
is.
A
Bullock
and
Bluebell
Road
here
is
the
proposed
development
that
they
provided,
showing
seventy-nine
townhouses
on
six
acres.
I
want
to
make
a
note
and
we'll
come
back
to
it,
that
we
have
Dan
McGee
our
traffic
engineer
here
too,
and
he
can
speak
to
some
of
the
issues
with
traffic
circulation
as
it's
drawn
up,
here's
a
outline
or
a
diagram
showing
the
typical
building
unit,
how
it
will
be
laid
out.
B
The
current
zoning
right
now
is
divided
between
B
3
and
B
4
and
the
future
land
use
for
this
area
recommends.
Neighborhood
mixed-use
staff
doesn't
support
the
su
p
su
P
when
we
have
special
use
permits.
These
aren't
used
to
these
by
ordinance
they're
they're
not
used
to
lessen
any
requirements,
I
know.
Sometimes
we
do
that
and
that's
not
the
correct
way.
If
we
don't
have
authority
within
the
ordinance
to
be
able
to
say
well,
we
can
ignore
it.
B
So
GPS
are
those
rare
instances
where
we
can
require
more,
but
they're
not
meant
to
be
used
to
require.
So
the
issue
with
this
townhouse
ordinate
or
with
the
tenants
as
its
proposed
is
that
it
it
does
not
make
several
of
the
minimum
requirements
as
currently
outlined
in
our
town
in
our
ordinance.
Now,
as
you
know,
we're
lacking
for
specificity
in
our
townhouse
organs
and
that's
something
we're
working
through
where
we've
come
to
you
we're
speaking
with
the
development.
B
Can
you
come
with
city
staff
and
we're
going
through
that
and
that's
something
we'll
be
bringing
you
in
the
future.
You
can
still
build
townhouses
now,
but
there
are
minimum
restrictions
on
lot
widths
and
how
it
has
to
be
designed
in
this
proposed
this
as
they
submitted.
It
doesn't
doesn't
meet
those
guidelines,
and
so
that's
why
staff
is
not
supporting
it
and
we
can
speak
to
some
of
those
specifics
if
you
want
to
get
into
it
and
one
of
the
we
can
speak
of
the
traffic
issues
that
may
there
as
well
with
the
circulation.
K
Yes,
I
have
a
comment.
Mr.
chairman,
if
I
had
me
allowed,
one
of
the
biggest
problems
in
laredo
is
affordable.
Housing
and
I've
been
looking
at
this
project
in
those
townhouses
I.
Think
it's
a
very
good
project
with
a
community.
Now
they
were
going
through
this
very
serious
event.
I
think
those
the
housing
would
be
very
appropriate,
depending
on
the
price
that
they're
gonna
market
it,
which
is
not
of
my
interest
but
I,
think
I,
truly
believe
that
that
this
is
something
there
is
doable.
They
have
presented
that
very
nicely
the
square
footage.
K
A
N
D
Good
evening,
chairman
commissioners,
as
we
are
on
important
because
this
item,
but
just
to
give
you
a
new
background,
it
was
tabled
in
February
and
before
that
we
made
with
all
the
departments-
and
we
addressed
all
the
comments
with
the
exception
of
the
24
feet.
These
are
at
least
22.
That's
the
smallest
lot.
D
Just
looking
at
the
delay
is
not
that
dissimilar
is
noted,
the
latest
one
that
one
is
presented
there
I
think
it
is
from
the
presentations,
just
not
the
one
that
was
put
on
page
only
on
the
public
access,
at
least
not
yet
I
think
we're
a
little
delayed.
He
just
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions,
and-
and
we
don't
concur
with
comment
number
15,
which
talks
about
the
property
line
in
less
than
24
days.
They
lost
weight,
okay,
200
German,
all.
J
D
J
D
N
A
A
D
D
T
It's
gotta
go
ahead.
This
should
remind
the
commissioners
that
were
at
the
meeting
that
that
meeting
that
we
had
at
City
at
the
city
library
do
items
came
before
us
during
that
meeting
and
I.
Think
mister
had
accused
himself
for
obscene
voting
is
a
little
more
information
during
that
during
this
item
then
later
us,
another
item
came
up.
There,
we've
had
a
similar
situation,
I
recall
that
he
voted
for
it,
but
at
the
time
when
he
abstained,
we
did
not
have
enough
people
to
be
able
to
vote
because
most
of
the
commissioners
had
left.
T
The
meeting
already
was
very
long
meeting.
So
I
recall
during
that
last
meeting
that
we
debated
at
the
white
extensively
and
several
of
us
had
expressed
the
idea
that
that
the
that
the
two
feet
between
logs
didn't
seem
to
be
such
an
important
matter,
because
there
was
part
garage
parking
in
each
unit
and
we
thought
that
it
was
minimal.
So
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
that
was
at
that
meeting
that
that
is,
should
have
come
up
and
then
read
address
that
and
I
have
made
the
motion
and
that
meeting
to
approve
heaven.
T
A
A
A
A
N
A
J
G
A
And
those
against
the
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
that
we
have
item
7a
amending
chapter
24,
the
city,
loiter
land
development
code,
appendix
D,
I'll,
permit
fees
for
the
proper
installation
of
solar
panels
as
allowed
by
international
residential
code,
an
International
Electric
Code
for
the
electrical
efficiency
by
generating
electricity
using
sunlight,
which
can
be
used
in
structures
established
in
solar
panel,
permit
fees
and
providing
for
publication
effective
date.
Kirby.
AD
Kirby
its
I'm
here
after
on
the
building
director
rolling
this
here,
all
on
the
on
the
WebEx
in
case.
There's
any
specific
item,
questions
to
be
out
with
Commission
good
evening,
chairman
and
commission
members,
the
the
item-
employees
basically
just
say
a
flat
fee
that
were
establishing
that
we
don't
have
we've-
had
a
predominant,
the
predominance
of
solar
panel
installations
throughout
the
city
and
don't
have
anything
stated
on
our
ordinance
to
be
able
to
basically
charge
for
a
plan
review
fee
and
permit
for
installation
of
solar
panels.
AD
It's
a
flat
flat
fee
for
residential
and
commercial
that
would
be
established
by
this
fee.
But
it
does
have
a
combined
electrical
permit
requirement,
of
which
we've
issued
a
building
bulletin.
It
should
have
been
included
in
your
packet,
basically
giving
guidance
to
all
the
contractors
out
there,
which
are
mainly
from
what
the
staff
and
I
have
looked
at
or
about
95
percent
from
out
of
town
there's,
maybe
a
handful
of
local
ones
that
are
being
established
right
now.
But
this
is
basically
trying
to
establish
a
feed
of
that
that
isn't
on
the
book.
AD
T
AD
Flat
fee
would
be
$50
for
plan
review;
in
other
words,
somebody
would
bring
in
the
contractor
would
bring
in
the
plan
the
project
for
plan
review
for
solar
panels,
so
it
would
basically
bring
their
their
their
plan.
The
the
guidance
that
we've
given
them
is
a
combined
guidance
that
we
touch
base
with
aap.
So
if
you
look
at
the
the
bulletin
with
that,
we
attempt
on
the
on
the
agenda,
it
provides
the
contractors
guidance
of
exactly
what
they
need
to
do
and
what
they
need
to
provide
in
terms
of
plan
sets
and
everything
else.
AD
We
do
plan
on
trying
to
simplify
thinking
and
speaking
to
the
Chairman
earlier
on
a
different
matter.
We're
gonna
be
clarifying
the
ordinance
a
little
bit,
so
we
can
just
remove
all
the
other
language
basic
is.
We
can
just
ensure
that
the
focus
is
on
the
solar
panel,
a
planned
permit
review
fee,
and
so
it's
not
a
fifty
dollar
charge
per
floor
panels.
So
that's
not
what
it
is.
So
it's
just
for
the
plan
review.
That's
it
it's
a
straight
one
to
one
time
fee.
T
It's
not
a
question,
it's
a
comment.
They
can
see.
Yes,
I
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
fee
being
applied
to
commercial,
but
I
think
that
if
we
want
to
incentivize
residential,
you
know
charging
them
a
fee.
I
mean
I,
know
it's
just
a
$50
fee
and
I
understand
that.
But
you
know
if
we
want
to
incentivize
community
neighborhoods
and
people
to
make
their
homes
more
sustainable,
I
think
that
we
should
not
try
to
repeat
them
to
residential
my
view.
AD
That's
noted,
sir,
for
more
side
of
the
house
from
the
staff
side,
I
gotta
account
for
hours
and
billing
and
use
of
time.
So
what
the
permanent
does
it
accounts
for
the
staff
time
used
to
review
the
plan
review,
so
it's
basically
for
providing
a
good
plan
review
and
making
sure
that
the
contractors
meeting
all
the
requirements
that
are
needed
to
be
met,
obviously
by
us
from
a
safety
standpoint
and
also
to
meet
ap's
requirements.
E
AD
Look
at
look
at
da
Mosta
siendo
tÃpicamente,
almost
pensando.
Look
lo
que
pasar
como
que
da
I'll
come
and
steal
silver-coated
sobre
el
trabajo
case
of
a
sarcoma
kita
porque
como,
both
Costas,
who
knows
al
la
vie.
Shun
de
las
planas
que
I
said
I'll
go
Blenheim
in
this
same
plane
was
look
at
of
PG&E
damos
kilovolts
el
segundo
birthday
is
coming
early,
literacy
star,
you
say
Sol
apart
the
comic
CL,
you
know:
Priscilla
Vancouver
are
Canelli
algo
diferente,
the
recent
residencial,
so
I
both
could
go
so.
E
Creo
que
es
más,
fácil
amass
economy,
co,
release
our
plan
of
the
de
la
casa.
You
reserve
plans,
college
students
own
in
the
religion,
presidencia
para
para,
la
gente,
para
apoyar,
Alchemist
necesita,
those
commercials
forma,
you
think,
negotiate
commercial
purpose
for
his
commission,
see
cysts
oink
everywhere
difference
in
total.
It
almost
reminiscent
auto
sector
is
instead
commercial
here,
because
Chanel
grass
institución
different
Arturo.
A
AD
That's
what
I
was
gonna
think
right
now,
if
the
Commission
is
we
like
to
recommend
that
that
we're
we're
all
years
right?
You
know
this.
This
is
basically
a
fee
that
we
checked
several
other
cities
and
communities,
not
everybody's.
You
know
establishing
this
yet
because
it's
you
know,
solar
panels
are
kind
of
developing
thing
right
now,
but
we
wanted
to
address
the
issue
right
now
before
you
know
several
months
or
you
pass.
We
could
start
addressing
these,
so
we
could
have
been
a
Hotpoint
with
us
with
aap.
AD
K
K
Let
me
finish:
that's
one
of
the
questions.
The
other
question
is
that
I've
seen
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
resident
with
a
benefit
of
the
solar
panels,
not
only
by
reducing
their
amount
of
electricity
are
also
by
certain
benefits
that
they're
given
by
the
IRS
as
a
credit
under
taxes.
Now,
if,
if
there's
an
ordinance
that
you
have
guided
yourself
in
and
it's
being
applied
in
another
city
where
this
is
something
that
that
just
was
created
out
of
the
blue
sky.
AD
Know
that
this
is
basically
addressing
a
need
to
establish
a
fee
for
this,
because
right
now,
there's
no
we're
doing
the
work
to
cover
it,
but
I
need
to
cover
the
staff
time.
Obviously,
like
any
other
fee
that
we
got
it's
not
any.
Nothing
is
free,
basically,
so
I
need
to
cover
the
staff
time
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
established
an
ordinance
that
provided
a
fee
for
this
particular
type
of
review.
AD
We
don't
have
it
in
our
books
under
the
appendix
D,
which
is
all
our
permit
fees,
and
so
we
need
to
establish
one
otherwise,
you
know
the
other
alternative
would
just
to
consider
it
a
regular
building
and-
and
it
would
be
based
on
the
commercial
would
be
on
valuation
and
and
the
other
would
be
rolling.
Can
you
turn
men
on
there?
Somebody.
AD
No
that
we
don't,
we
just
checked
around,
not
everybody,
everybody
charges
it
in
different
ways,
but
we
just
wanted
to
identify,
also
accountability
wise
for
me
in
terms
of
what
projects
are
going
on
in
terms
of
residential
projects,
commercial
projects.
We
wanted
to
separate
the
actual
solar
panel
installation
because
it
is
a
growing
trend
right
now,
if
you
look
at
all
the
roofs
in
town,
so
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
capture
that
also
too.
L
AD
Yes,
actually
we're
speaking
to
the
Chairman
about
this
earlier.
In
clarification,
all
the
separate
fee
structure,
that's
just
illegal
when
we
drafted
the
ordinance
it
come
falls
under
appendix
D,
so
appendix
D
basically
covers
all
the
fees
that
we
charge.
So
those
are
necessarily
applicable
to
this.
We
should
have
just
put
the
solar
panel
fee
flat
fee
for
$50
on
it
and
that's
it.
So
that's
what
it
should
have
referenced
on
the
on
the
ordinance.
T
AD
Takes
maybe
I'm
thinking
a
staff
member
with
all
the
back-and-forth,
because,
obviously,
if
you
gotta
not
only
just
receive
it
review,
it
there's
usually
a
lot
of
stuff.
Nobody
turns
in
a
packet,
you
know
complete,
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
back
and
forth
they're
getting
information,
and
so,
let's
say
two
hours,
we're
kind
of
calculating
more
or
less
of
staff.
Time
plus
end
the
permit
review
and
and
the
issue,
and
so
we
thought
$50.00
was
adequate.
K
Yeah
turn
Carlos.
This
is
this
is
for
this
is
a
communication
with
Carlos.
My
concern
Carlos
is
that,
with
the
the
crisis
that
we
have
right
now,
I
think
this
ordinance
is
not.
Is
that
very
welcome
right
now,
I
think
this
ordinance
should
be
put
on
hold
at
least
for
a
couple
of
months.
I
don't
want
to
stop
anybody
from
working
we're
trying
to
get
a
permit
or
so
on
and
so
forth.
K
AD
J
I
waited
so
anything
is
go
ahead
and
they're
ready
to
there.
You
go
Road
if
somebody
comes
in
and
adds
in
solar
panels
and
they
pay
the
to
do.
The
electrical
plan
is
the
$50
that
you're
asking
for
the
$50
on
top
of
what
they
already
have
to
pay
for
the
electrical
plan.
To
begin
with
or
is,
are
they
going
to
come
in
with
a
solar
plan
and
they
only
pay
50
soldier?
J
AD
No,
it's
a
solar
plant
and
so
there's
two
there's
their
tiding
together,
anything's
tightening
together
you
get
a
so
you
decided
to
get
a
building
plan,
you're
gonna,
get
a
building
permit
and
then
the
separate
trades.
You
know
your
your
electrical
contractors
gonna
have
to
get
their
trades
or
they're
plumbers.
Gonna
have
to
get
a
train,
but-
and
in
this
case
it
might
be
electrical
more
than
likely
99
percent
of
times.
AD
J
AD
J
Get
that,
but
my
issue
is
that
you're
charging
another
50
bucks
for
something
that
you
would
have
been
revived:
you're
you're
inspecting
anyway,
as
far
as
it
under
an
original
electrical
permit
already,
and
so
it
seems
like
you're,
double
dipping
and
charging
to
fees
for
essentially
the
same
work
and
you're
passing
it
off
that,
because
these
are
out-of-town
business
people,
even
though
the
ultimate
consumer
are
local
people
will
flip
these
fees
you're
getting
now
double
for
the
same
work.
You
would
have
done
in
the
first
place.
Well,.
AD
True,
to
some
extent,
in
a
sense
of
that
they're
90%
of
them
are
out-of-towners,
but
the
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
$50
is
for
the
plan
review,
not
the
inspection,
so
the
inspections
are
tied
into
with
the
Electrical
Contractors
permit.
The
plan
review
fee
is
want
one
item
in
itself
to
review
all
the
documentation
that
are
being
provided.
So
that's
one
separate
staff
time
and
then
the
second
very
inspection
is
basically
eating
inspected
by
the
electrical
inspector
that
has
to
go
out
there
and
do
his
initial
here's.
AD
You
know
the
follow-up
and
final
so
and
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
those
inspections,
because
the
contractors
aren't
always
familiar
with
it
and
our
inspectors
are
very
thorough.
So
we
do
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
out
there
some
time
with
them.
So
those
two
separate
fees
are
tied
in
together
and
if
that's
for
any
any
construction
project,
so
you
got
your
building
plan
reviews
side
and
then
your
inspection
costs
you're
related
to
your
separate
contractors.
Also.
C
Also,
if
I
made
this,
this
is
rolling
with
billing
I'm
sorry
to
chime
in,
but
we
met
with
AP
and
there
was
a
lot
of
concerns
on
how
they
were
connecting
these
electrical.
Well,
the
sleep
panel
phase
the
inverters
all
that
converting
it
from
the
photostatic
to
to
electricity
and
then
connecting
it
back
into
the
houses.
So
the
plan
review
is
very
essential,
so,
basically
right
now
that
review
is
not
gonna
be
charged.
C
Basically,
if
we
like
table
it
or
we're
trying
to
figure
out
a
way,
because
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
establish
a
review
fee
to
issue
a
permit
for
that
because
currently
light,
as
mr.
Massey
has
stated,
we
don't
have
and
feed
a
charge,
so
they
come
in
they're,
basically
just
paying
an
electrical
permit,
and
so
I
can.
J
I
can
I
make
a
comment
now,
mr.
chairman,
yes,
okay,
so
I
think
at
minimum
we
could
charge
a
plan
review
fee.
Just
like
any
other
construction.
You
get
charge
a
plan
where
your
fee,
which
is
very
high,
nothing
compared
to
$50
and
then
the
independent
contractor
they
pay
their
fees
for
electrical
plumbing
and
whatever
fees
they
have
to
play.
That
I
think
it's
only
fair
to
charge
something
maybe
a
little
higher
for
commercial.
If
you're
worried
about
the
consumer,
it's
it's.
J
These
companies
coming
in
they're,
taking
advantage
of
the
consumer,
not
not
any
other
fees
that
we're
imposing,
because
I
personally
have
seen
one
of
these
long
turns
because
the
consumer
is
getting
a
loan
on
these
things
for
$40
worth
of
equipment
throughout
the
life
of
the
loan.
They're
gonna
with
interest
they're
gonna
be
paying
with
$80,000
for
this,
but
the
consumer
doesn't
care
because
they
only
want
a
lower
monthly
payment.
So
we're
barking
up
the
wrong
tree.
We're
trying
to
work
concerned
about
the
consumer.
We
should
be
concerned
about
the
terms
of
those
agreements.
J
That's
a
different
issue,
so
the
city
making
just
enough
to
cover
their
plan
review
fee
where
he
has
a
contractor
I'd
come
in
and
play
my
pay.
My
plan
review
fee
to
submit
plan
to
build
a
new
construction
I
think
it's
only
fair
and
I
think
we
shouldn't
impose
it.
I
mean
I,
don't
see
what
the
discussion
is
for
I
mean
it's
only
fair.
The
city
has
some
kind
of
fee
imposed
on
to
these
contraries
coming
in
and
installing
the
solar
panels.
A
Let
me
go
ahead
and
now
and
and
chime
in
a
little
bit.
What
he's
talking
about
is
review.
For
you
know.
The
review
fee
here
is
an
important
issue,
because
one
of
the
things
they
have
to
calculate
is
the
structural
engineers
report.
You
have
to
calculate
wind
loads.
You
have
to
calculate
the
stress
on
that
roof
structure,
whether
it
can
take
it
or
not,
based
on
the
number
of
panels
are
gonna
put
up
there.
So
there
is,
you
know
a
number
of
things
that
have
to
be
reviewed
and
what
he's
asking
for
is
a
minimum.
A
A
Who
has
to
be
part
of
this
thing
and
of
course
he
has
to
pay
another
$50,
plus
any
circuits
or
anything
else,
but
there's
just
two,
but
this
$50
fee
is
a
very
critical
one,
because,
like
I
said,
they
got
to
make
sure
that
the
loads
that
are
going
on
that
roof
and
the
way
it's
gonna
sit
on
that
rule
does
not
bring
any
harm
to
any
of
the
surrounding
houses.
It's
important.
A
I
think
what
we
can
do
is
this
a
flute.
Oh
maybe
with
this
ordinance
right
now
is
why
don't
we
table
it
for
the
next
meeting
and
do
this
come
up
with
a
commercial
fee
residential
fee
reword,
the
ordinance
to
where
you
eliminate
the
portion
said
I
think
you
happen
very
well
defined
in
that
building
memo
that
you
put
out
the
contractors
make
a
portion
of
that
particular
section
that
outlines
what
the
fees
for?
Okay?
AD
A
A
B
N
Thank
you
very
much
Kirby.
Mr.
chairman,
for
this
item.
The
applicant
is
ALS
Holdings
LLC,
the
engineer
sheriff
engineering
company
200,
8.75
acres,
located
west
of
cuatro,
Vientos,
Road
and
South,
the
warmth
of
Road.
The
zoning
is
B,
1,
r,
1a
or
1b,
and
B
3,
and
the
pros
uses
residential
and
commercial
Thanks.
N
B
H
N
N
Next,
water
utilities,
water
utilities
and
traffic
safety-
these
are
the
items
of
concern.
One
of
them
would
Islam,
others
will
surely
struggle
is
a
filing
section
number
two.
The
easternmost
entrance
to
the
proposed
phase
eighteen
will
include
a
raised
median
and
over
through
the
entrance
to
violence
into
phase.
21
will
have
the
same
right
away.
N
A
Z
L
Z
A
A
Z
G
B
N
Righto,
absolutely
the
applicant
notable
properties
limited.
The
engineer
is
Terrace
South
engineering,
24-point,
91
acres,
north
of
International
Boulevard.
The
zoning
is
r1
a
and
B
3
their
produce
impressions,
commercial
next,
general
area,
next
aerial
freakin
view.
Next.
Here's
the
proposed
change,
they're,
just
increasing
the
size
of
phase
2.
A
L
A
L
A
F
A
N
Thank
you.
The
applicant
is
ALS
Florida
Holdings
LLC,
the
engineers
surfy
Engineering
Company
LLC,
9.80,
acres,
located
west
of
retro,
vientos
and
south
along
with
answer.
The
zoning
is
our
1a
and
the
proposed
use
is
residential,
next
jennifer
location,
aerial
preview
and
here's.
The
proposed
subdivision.
A
A
N
N
N
Z
A
N
A
A
Z
At
this
point,
it's
more
of
a
conversation,
the
city's
building
department
and
seeing
what
needs
to
be
done
in
order
to
make
it
available,
and
so
right
now
we're
kinda
in
communication
wasn't
happy.
We
still
have
to
have
some
additional
meetings
with
them.
Of
course
we're
just
in
the
process
of
beginning
to
design,
then
your
face.
So
once
we
get
to
that
point,
we
will
address
it
with
utilities
Department
and
make
sure
that
everything
is
done
in
accordance
of
what
they
what
they
want.
Yeah,
okay.
N
R
N
Thank
you.
The
applicant
is
Rebecca
hi
mark
cutting
commercial
investments,
LC
engineer,
record
espera.
Consulting
property
description
is
six
acres
located
west,
a
bob
bullock,
loop,
loop,
20
and
north
of
the
road
in
Kern
zone.
E
is
B
3
and
B
4,
and
the
proposed
uses
residential
in
our
location
aerial
photo
Thanks,
Street
View.
N
Next.
This
is
the
the
proposed
subdivision
plat
and
this
item
for
reference
ties
back
to
the
su
p.
That
was
just
voted
upon
earlier
in
the
meeting.
So
these
are
the
comments
from
planning
and
the
approval
is
contingent
on
the
granting
of
the
special
use
permit
for
the
townhomes,
which
was
granted,
which
was
granted.
N
A
D
A
N
A
A
N
Applegate
North
Laredo
industrial
cart
limited.
Even
here
a
record
is
halan
engineering
and
surveying
78
point
21
acres
west
of
I-35
in
South,
the
routier
Parkway,
the
zoning
is
m1
and
the
proposed
uses
industrial
things
I'm
general
area,
I'm,
Ariel,
next
life,
Street
View,
next
line
proposed
layout
and
staff
comments,
we're
planning,
engineering,
fire,
environmental,
water
utilities,
epic
safety.
G
Because
we
are
down
here
on
behalf
of
the
client
I'm
assuming
was
talking
about
North
Laredo
in
depth
report,
that's
correct,
I've
reviewed
all
the
comments
by
planning
and
engineering,
fire,
environmental,
water
utilities
and
traffic
safety,
and
we
concur
with
the
comments
and
we
will
address
any
of
them
as
the
ones
on
some
profit
anyway.
Please
I'll
be
happy
to
address.
Thank.
A
J
M
L
A
L
B
Yes,
thank
you.
This
was
our
first
opportunity
to
have
an
electronic
meeting
and
I'd
like
to
ask
feedback
on
how
it
went
and
if
there's
any,
we
don't
have
to
give
that
right
now.
But
please
call
me
after
this
meeting
sometime
this
coming
week.
If
you
have
feedback
on
how
we
could
run
this
better,
we
did
our
best
to
try
to
include
the
public
to
try
to
make
sure
the
engineer
applicant
was
available
to
answer
your
questions
and
to
move
it
along,
and
you
know
timely
manner
as
well
being
sensitive
to
your
time.
As
always.
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
volunteering.
Your
time
you
do
not
get
paid
as
planning
commissioners,
you
volunteer
for
this
position
and
it
very
much
makes
a
difference
in
the
community
taking
the
time
out
of
your
schedule
to
hear
and
weigh
in
on
these
proposals
before
you.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
in
the
first
week
of
May
and
at
that
meeting
we
will
be
doing
it
the
same
way.
We
anticipate
that
we'll
probably
be
doing
this
for
the
next
I
would
say
a
couple
months.