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Planning and Zoning Committee Meeting 101520
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As
normal,
we
need
to
give
it
about
a
minute
because
there's
a
lag
in
the
what's
being
shown
on
our
live
television,
channel
swaggett,
channel
1400
on
the
city's
web
page
as
well,
and
for
this
time
I'll
just
explain
a
few
things
just
remind
everybody
to
mute
your
mites
when
you're,
not
talking.
If
you
happen
to
forget,
I
may
mute
you
just
to
preserve
the
audio
quality
for
the
general
public.
D
Don't
forgive
me
if
I
do
that,
just
trying
to
make
sure
the
audio
is
good
and
then,
as
always,
commissioner,
you
have
the
ability
to
ask
for
a
negative
call
instead
of
a
positive,
so
people
don't
have
to
unmute
if
they're
going
when
they
take
a
vote.
So
you
can
ask
if
any
are
opposed
if
you
choose
to
and
if
we
can
just
give
about
30
more
seconds
and
then
we
will,
let
you
know
if
anybody
calls
in
from
the
general
public.
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D
This
one
is
the
owner,
but
the
next
four
the
owner
is
acting
as
the
representative
for
the
other
four
they're
all
asking
for
a
similar
thing.
They
want
to
do
retail,
slash
commercial
area
and
these
lots
that
are
residential.
So
let
me
take
you
through
this
first
one.
Everything
else
will
be
fairly
repetitive.
After
that,
should
you
choose
to
hear
them
together
or
not.
A
D
D
Zoning,
our
community
business
district
zone.
The
proposed
use
on
this
site
is
a
restaurant.
As
always,
we
ask
them
to
provide
more
details
and
none
were
provided.
17
letters
were
mailed
out
to
surrounding
property
owners.
We
received
zero
letters
four
and
zero
against
here's.
A
look
at
the
property
this
one
you
can
see
is
right
in
the
middle
of
those
five
lots.
So
the
two
lots
to
the
west
and
the
two
lots
to
the
east
are
are
all
the
next
four
zone.
Cases
here
is
the
current
zoning.
D
You
can
see
it's
all
r1
zoning
south
of
del
mar
boulevard
and
east
of
john
alexander.
There
is
some
commercial
across
the
street,
but
it's
b1
excuse
me,
there's
b3
across
the
street
and
then
there's
b1
nearby
and
b3
kitty
corner
here
is
the
future
land
use
designation.
The
future
land
use
map
for
this
area
calls
for
this
area
to
be
residential
and
next
door
institution
or
whether
it's
a
school
here
are
a
few
street
views
of
the
property
you're
going
to
see
on
del
mar
as
you
approach
going
west,
here's
an
aerial
view.
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Well
I
mean
I
wanted
to
point
out
here
the
reason
I
we
took
this
view
here
is
you
can
see
that
the
road,
the
sidewalk
jogs?
That's
a
bus,
stop
right
there
and
that's
going
to
be
important
in
just
a
second.
So
there's
a
bus
stop
in
front
of
this
property
and
the
others,
and
then
here's
the
aerial
view,
and
on
this
I
want
to
point
out
that
you
have
del
mar
you
have
that
bus
stop
and
then
the
access
that
serves
all
of
these
lots
is
a
private
drive.
D
This
is
not
a
public
street,
it's
a
private
drive
and
then
a
cul-de-sac
at
the
end,
and
that's
where
all
these
four
lots
will
have
legal
access.
Now
through
that
cul-de-sac,
there
is
only
one
structure
currently
built.
The
rest
of
the
lots
are
vacant.
They're
still
vacant
is
the
plat
for
the
property
that
just
shows
that
this
is
a
private
drive
and
that's
how
that
these
lots
have
access
through
the
private
drive
and
then
they're
the
the
they
have
a
right-of-way
dedication
all
the
way
to
del
mar.
D
So
it's
actually
not
private
property
after
the
private
drive,
it's
public,
so
staff
is
not
supportive
of
this
zone
change
and
the
reason
why
is
because
it
number
one?
Doesn't
it's
not
a
conformance
of
the
future
land
use
map?
Now,
that's
not
always
the
most
important
thing,
but
in
this
case
I
think
it
is
because
the
commercial
space
here
would
not
be
compatible
compatible
with
the
surrounding
uses,
but
the
most
important
concern
here
is
the
transportation
concern,
and
that
is
that
none
of
these
that
that
private
drive
was
not
built
for
commercial.
D
It
was
not
built
to
commercial
standards.
Approving
it,
as
is,
would
would
put
commercial
traffic
on
a
private
street
which
is
not
acceptable.
It's
not
built
to
standard,
and
it's
not
built
to
the
dimensions
that
are
necessary.
For
these
reasons,
we
are
not
supporting
the
recommendation.
We
did
call
the
applicant
to
let
them
know.
We
did
explain
our
reasoning
as
we
do
with
any
negative
recommendation.
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F
This
is
an
area
that
has
been
and
undeveloped
for
many
years,
and
now
we
have
an
applicant
coming
in
and
risking
to
do.
The
investment
and
the
staff
doesn't
support
it
for
obvious
reasons
right.
So
how
can
we
make
this
work
because,
right
in
front
you
have
another
commercial
area
with
the
residential
in
the
back,
the
comprehensive
plan
calls
for
residential
area
on
a
busy
boulevard.
It
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
it
doesn't
make
sense
in
general.
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E
F
D
The
access
on
del
mar
is
not
going
to
be
possible
with
that
bus
stop
there
and
and
from
the
private
drive
north
or
from
between
the
private
drive
and
del
mar.
That's
all
public
right-of-way
that
was
dedicated
so
that
actually
is
not
private
property
and
and
access
there.
Whether
they're,
going
to
have
access
is
determined
by
the
city,
not
not
these
properties.
D
The
way
that
it's
currently
set
up,
no,
but
could
something
be
worked
out
with
this
site.
Yes,
but
not
in
this
current
setup.
What
I
would
recommend
here
this
would
be
a
great
site
for
maybe
some
multi-family,
maybe
some
towns
or
something
you
could
you
wouldn't
have
to
change
the
access
you
could
still
access
that
property
drive.
You
should
have
some,
so
they
came
in
from
an
r1
and
they
were
asking
for
like
an
r3
where
they
could
do.
F
No,
no
kirby,
but
but
but
right
now,
what
you're
saying
is
you're
assuming
you're,
assuming
that,
for
in
your
opinion,
this
would
be
great
for
multi-family,
but
that's
not
the
investor.
We
have
at
hand.
We
have
an
investor
who's
willing
to
risk
their
investment
to
do
commercial
on
this
property.
That
is
real.
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C
That
that
house
has
been
on
constru
under
construction
for
the
last
15
years
nobody's
going
to
move
into
it.
The
whole
place
is
an
eyesore.
I
don't
know
who
came
up
with
the
r1
designation,
but
clearly
nobody's
going
to
build
a
house,
a
nice
house
facing
del
mar,
I
mean
that'd,
be
crazy.
You
have
a
buffer
with
the
retaining
wall
or
whatever.
It
is
that's
in
the
back,
and
I
think
some
considerations
should
be
given
for
some
other
type
of
development.
H
If
I
may,
mr
chairman
dominguez
commissioner
dominguez,
I
was,
I
was
involved
in
buying
some
of
the
properties
when
that
that
area
was
developed
and
it
was
developed
more
into
a
nice
gated
subdivision.
That's
how
it
was
intended.
Probably
many
many
years
like
larry
said
maybe
15,
maybe
20
years
back,
and
the
idea
was
to
do
nice.
H
But
I
I
gave
you
the
background,
because
that
access
road
was
never
intended
for
commercial
all
the
time
it
was
intended
for
residential
and-
and
I
agree
with
with
with
his
reference
that
we
have
an
investor
coming
into
that
area.
But
I
I
don't
really
agree
into
opening
this,
and
this
is
my
personal
opinion
to
business.
H
One
of
the
biggest
setbacks
is
going
to
be
the
access
to
the
to
the
exit
from
from
alexander,
on
a
busy
time
on
a
busy
day,
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
vehicles
exiting
if
it's
going
to
be
a
a
restaurant
or
it's
going
to
be
a
business
once
we
we
allow
for
that
to
turn
into
a
bit
b1
b3,
then
we're
allowing
now.
Whatever
is
in
that
in
that
area.
H
I
personally
think
that
that
that
should
be
used
for
a
more
practical
residential,
I'm
not
going
to
go
ahead
and
try
to
give
ideas
to
the
developer,
because
it's
not
on
my
on
my
right
to
do
it.
I
think
that,
but
it
is
on
my
right
to
protect
the
community
and
and
also
to
make
sure
that
the
the
residents
of
alexander
are
not
adversely
impacted
just
because
we
have
somebody
that
wants
to
put
money
there.
H
We
have
to
think
that
del
mar
in
particular
that
area
is
a
super
super
high
congested
area
with
the
school.
With
the
exit
and
entrance
with
alexander,
so
if
that
development
was
proposed
for
residential,
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
market-
and
this
is
my
personal
opinion-
there's
a
lot
of
market
to
keep
as
residential
and
keep
the
residents
from
alexander
and
and
the
traffic
from
del
mar
from
being
congested.
H
That
being
said,
once
we
allow
any
business
to
be
there
we're
creating
a
very,
very
dangerous
situation,
not
only
for
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
attending
the
the
businesses,
but
also
the
surrounding
areas,
and
also
the
the
the
people
that
are
not
only
living
in
alexander
but
are
also
traveling
through
del
mar.
So
that
being
said,
it
is
a
logic
to
allow
a
v3
to
be
there,
not
because
the
area
will
not
be
attracted
to
b3,
but
because
the
the
infrastructure
is
not
appropriate.
D
A
D
Axis
on
del
mar
is
not
going
to
be
a
possibility,
but
I
want
to
point
out
that
jb
alexander
is
a
write-in
right
out.
Only
that's
why
our
recommendations
are
making
this
a
high
traffic
spot,
something
that
would
be
commercial,
especially
a
b3
to
survive.
You
know
they
need
a
lot
of
traffic,
and
that
means
a
write
in
right
out.
D
That
means
sending
traffic
in
through
the
neighborhood
to
be
able
to
come
back
in
around
and
access
that
when
you're
talking
about
a
commercial
businesses
that
that
have
many
trips
per
day
versus
something
that's
residential
has
fewer
trips,
which
is
why
it
commercial
would
not
be
appropriate.
You're
in
our
chairman.
D
A
I
think
I've
heard
a
lot
of
comments
from
the
commission
right
now,
good
comments.
I
think
it's
time
for
us
to
to
listen
to
the
public
first
and
then
we
will
continue
discussion
on
the
matter.
All
right,
let's
go
ahead,
and
this
is
a
public
hearing
and
I'm
opening
up
the
public
hearing
to
anybody
who
wishes
to
speak
for
this
matter
for
the
zone,
change.
B
A
I
I
I
I
I
A
I
I
I
A
A
A
A
Where
would
the
bus
stop
be
moved
to?
You
know
those
kind
of
things,
and
certainly
if,
if
we
could
table
the
item
and
allow
them
time
to
you
know
explore
these
ideas
in
my
opinion,
would
probably
be
a
win-win
for
everyone
in
this
situation.
Those
are
my
thoughts,
I'm
willing
to
listen
to
anybody
else's
thoughts.
Commissioner,.
J
J
A
I
think
what
we're
all
looking
at
is
having
an
a
driveway
on
del
mar.
Okay,
because
you
do
have
a
concrete
median
there
that
driveway
into
that
particular
piece
of
property.
If
it's
developed
as
one
piece
of
property
as
a
commercial
strip,
then
your
entrance
is
going
to
be
right
in
and
your
exit
is
going
to
be
right
out
and
you
don't
have
an
entrance
or
exit
on
that
private
driveway.
A
A
F
So
it
would,
I
mean
it
would
be
into
the
best
interest
of
whoever
purchases
the
the
property
to
do
commercial
strip
to
have
an
entrance
on
east
del
mar.
I
don't
think
anybody
in
the
right
mind
with
a
good
business
acumen
would
not
do
that
right
right.
So,
when
you
develop
and
when
you
submit
your
plans
to
the
building
department,
there
is
a
traffic
and
there
are
plans
that
you
submit
to
provide
access
and
do
world
cuts
and.
E
F
And
discuss
solutions.
Obviously
they
didn't
come
up
with
a
solution.
They
only
came
out
with
a
problem.
The
problem
is
obvious,
but
what
the
city
lacks
is
coming
up
with
solutions
to
help
the
applicant
move
this
project
forward
and
that
wasn't
that
wasn't
addressed
today.
Okay,
if
I
need
to
mention.
D
F
No,
no,
no
but
they're
trying
to
sell
the
land
kirby
when
they
sell
it.
To
someone
like
me
that
I'm
going
to
develop,
I'm
going
to
come
and
bring
you
those
plans
and
you're
going
to
tell
me
the
building
department's
coming.
You
can't
do
that
because
you
don't
have
access
that
could
be
addressed
at
this
point
at
this
point.
If
we
table
the
item,
it's
only
kicking
the
can
further
down
the
road
and
it's
not
costing
you
not
costing
the
city
any
money,
but
it's
costing
the
investors
money.
D
F
D
F
G
K
A
A
C
There
is
there
is
a
bus
stop
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
street
on
the
other,
on
the
other
block
that
is
very
similar
to
this
one,
so
I
don't
see
a
problem
in
moving
the
bus,
stop
to
the
other
direction
yeah.
Another
issue
that
you
have
is
that
the
street
was
not
created
as
a
commercial
drive,
so
I
would
think
that
they
would
need
to
reconstruct
the
street
in
order
to
be
able
to
do
a
proposed
commercial
development.
A
A
H
Do
we
have
anything
in
writing
that
is
actually
giving
mr
cepeda
power
to
represent
the
other
persons,
because
we
might
be
changing
the
or
approving
or
disapproving
for
something
that
is
not
illegal?
I
want
to
say
legal.
I
mean
we
are
we're
not
attorneys,
but
shouldn't.
We
have
something
in
writing
that
actually
makes
mr
zepeda
a
true
representative.
A
A
M
M
I
just
have
one
I
just
want
to
ask
herbie
one
question
kirby
earlier,
just
to
clarify:
if
we
do
go
with
a
with
a
zone
change
you,
you
had
mentioned
that
there
is
a
possibility,
it
could
work
correct.
It's
just
you,
you
can't
tell
them
what
to
do,
but
there
is
minimal
changes
that
could
make
it
work.
Is
that
correct?
Did
I
understand
that
correct.
D
So
there
would
be
multiple
things
that
would
have
to
happen.
Definitely
the
let
me
just
say
this
that
granting
the
zoning
does
not
allow
for
the
commercial
buildings
to
be
constructed.
They
have
to
meet
the
guidelines,
there's
guidelines
with
how
the
plat
how
the
plat
is
currently
set
up
that
wouldn't
allow
for
that
there's
access
issues
that
would
would
be.
You
know
what
would
create
a
problem
there's
so
there's
multiple
things
they'd
have
to
solve
before
they
could
construct
a
commercial
build.
D
M
D
M
D
A
D
Let's
say
it
were
possible
that
el
metro
wanted
to
move
that
bus
stop,
but
they're
not
going
to
pay
for
it,
so
the
applicant
would
need
to
pay
for
that
that
so,
in
other
words,
this
current
setup
with
that
drive
is
not
going
to
work.
So
there
are
additional
costs
that
may
make
commercial
prohibitive,
where
you
could
put
townhouses
here
and
make
money
off
of
that
without
having
to
do
significant
improvements.
A
All
kirby,
that's
your
opinion,
but
let's
go
ahead
then,
and
would
you
translate
to
the
individual
and
say
two
things
we
can
do
with
this
thing
right
now,
absolutely
they're
gonna
be
involved
like
everybody's
saying
that
it's
cost
if
his
own
change
gets
granted
in
the
future,
or
would
he
rather
maybe
be
more
comfortable
with
the
item
table
at
this
point
so
that
he
can
meet
with
the
staff
to
fully
get
an
explanation?
That's
on
development.
A
B
I
F
H
So
it
is
very
important
that
that
mistress
understands
that
he
must
bring
first
all
the
plans
and
approval,
because
once
we
approve
the
song
change,
then
he's
got
a
hot
potato
in
his
hand,
because
if
he
doesn't
have
the
infrastructure
he
will
not
be
able
to
sell
it.
So
it
is
only
fairness
for
the
community
and
for
mr
cepeda
and
I'm
ready
to
make
a
motion
when
allowed.
Mr
german.
A
D
A
J
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
And
advice
all
right.
Okay
with
that
being
said,
the
motion
carries
to
approve
the
zone
change.
The
next
item
that
we
have
is
item
5f,
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
of
laredo
by
authorizing
the
issuance
of
a
special
use
permit
for
a
restaurant
serving
alcohol.
A
lot
one
block
one
alexander
commercial
subdivision:
phase
14
located
at
1119
fenwick
drive,
building
b,
suite
206.
This
is
a
public
hearing
kirby.
Will
you
make
the
presentation?
D
Restaurant,
the
crazy
crab,
I'm
learning
my
spanish
and
liberium
llc
marielle,
garcia
representative.
This
is
one
one
one
nine
fenwick
drive
it's.
The
request
is
for
a
special
use
permit
for
a
restaurant
serving
alcohol,
and
for
for
that
use
you
need
a
special
use
permit
in
this
zone,
so
they
have
the
correct
zoning.
They
just
need
a
special
use
permit
to
have
a
restaurant
that
serves
alcohol
rather
than
just
a
restaurant.
D
D
D
And
another
aerial
view-
and
here
is
a
view
of
their
site
plan
the
proposed
site
plan.
They
are
you
know
this
is
under
construction
or
nearly
complete.
They
haven't
done
the
build
out
of
the
units
inside,
and
so
they
have
somebody
interested
in
one
of
the
units
they're
building
out
it's
the
unit
on
the
to
the
east,
the
farthest
one
to
the
east
that
has
an
outdoor
patio
area
staff
recommendation
supports
the
special
use
permit
it.
D
It
meets
the
location,
distance
requirements
that
are
set
in
the
ordinance
for
when
you
have
a
restaurant
that
serves
alcohol,
how
far
you
have
to
be
from
other
residential
or
from
residential.
It
meets
the
parking
requirements.
It
has
access
that
it
needs
and
the
the
use
won't
be
out
of
place
on
that
corner.
That's
going
to
be
a
commercial
corner,
so,
for
these
reasons
staff
supports
it.
Here's
the
proposed
motion
again
you're
motioning,
to
send
a
recommendation
to
counsel
either
positive
or
negative,
and
then,
when
you're
ready,
the
public
hearing
can
be
open.
A
B
G
A
A
Seconds
of
motion,
all
those
who
are
not
in
favor
of
the
motion
signified
by
saying
hi,
with
none
heard,
the
special
use
permit
is
approved.
The
next
item
is
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
dorito
by
rezoning,
approximately
9.99
acres
out
of
26.61
acre
trek
conveyed
to
mrdm
development
company
llc.
A
D
D
You
can
see
the
current
zoning
is
already
next
to
development.
That's
occurring
r1a,
that's
just
like
it
and
the
the
future
land
use
is
in
compliance.
It's
low
density,
residential
staff
supports
the
zone,
change
and
here's
the
proposed
motion,
you're
you're,
sending
a
either
a
positive
or
negative
recommendation
to
counsel
and
when
you're
ready
here's
the
number
for
the
public
hearing.
A
A
A
B
Good
evening,
everyone
overview
the
applicant
at
zaptech's
corporation.
The
engineer
of
record
is
premier
civil
engineering,
20.80
acres
located
south
of
jaime
zapata
and
west
of
century
city
boulevard.
The
zoning
is
r1a
and
v3
proposed
uses
a
residential
commercial
and
the
proposed
lots
are
103
general
location,
aerial
view
street
view.
O
I
All
right
go
ahead,
review
the
comments
from
staff
and
we
do
have
objections
with
the
plan.
The
parking
recreation
department
comments,
our
client,
dedicated
34
acres
of
parkland
and
their
mastermind
in
front
of
you
is
2.8
acres
and
there
are
some
of
dedication
that
we
think
that's
excessive
they're,
not
getting
credited
for
the
previous
education.
I
D
I
can
respond
to
that
sure
we
don't
have
water
impact
fees,
although
that
would
be
nice
to
have
them
someday
and
then,
as
far
as
the
parks
and
recreation
comment,
that
is
more
of
a
notification.
In
other
words,
you
couldn't
really
strike
that
that
comment.
It's
the
requirements
of
the
parkland
dedication
ordinance
are
not
something
that
could
be.
It
could
be
they're
just
they're
there
and
they
have
to
comply
with
them,
and
so
they
won't
do.
They
haven't
done
that
analysis
now,
they're
just
saying
they
need
to
comply
with
it.
D
D
Nothing
can
be
built
in
the
floodplain
unless
they
mitigate
it
and
that's
that's
the
whole
process.
They'd
have
to
follow
so
we
do.
Obviously
we
look
at
that
as
part
of
our,
but
this
is
when
someone
brings
in
a
master
plan
or
preliminary
plot.
That's
the
first
step
it.
Basically,
they
bring
us
a
concept
and
once
that's
to
a
process
where,
then
they
all
those
things
get
looked
at.
G
I
A
A
O
A
K
A
All
right
motion
carries
next
item.
Is
the
preliminary
consideration
of
the
following
preliminary
plats
and
preliminary
replats
item
7a
preliminary
consideration
of
the
replan
of
block
one
block,
one
kalady
industrial
park
phase
one
into
lot
one
a
two
and
three
block:
one
calais
industrial
park:
facebook
all.
A
A
B
Overview,
the
applicant
at
marquez
express
llc
engineer
of
record
power,
consulting
two
and
a
half
acres
located
west
of
fm
1472
and
north
north
of
mercury
mine
road.
The
zoning
is
ag
proposed
use
is
industrial
and
the
pro
number
of
lots
is
one
general
location,
aerial
view
street
view
and
the
proposed
plan
comments
from
planning
water
utilities
and
utility
coordination,
and
the
proposed
motion.
C
B
A
K
I
You
know
at
the
moment
I
I
don't
know,
I'm
just
doing
the
plot.
I
know
it's
going
to
be
used
for
logistics,
but
that
will
be
really
reconciled
once
it
goes
to
to
a
building
permit
once
that
they
can
actually
go
through.
You
know
once
it's
flooded
and
you
don't
have
to
comply
with
the
city
standards.
C
That's
not
my
question.
The
concern
I
have
is
that
these
these
residential
areas
that
are
out
there
that
are
unprotected
or
being,
in
my
view,
being
assailed
by
the
fact
that
there's
no
subdivision
ordinances
out
there
other
than
the
model
subdivision
that
the
county
has
and
these
people
may
be
living.
There
have
lived
there
for
many
years.
I
To
be
honest,
I'm
not
involved
on
that
part
of
the
sideline,
and
this
will
come
in
later
on.
As
I
don't
know,
if
the
city
has
right
now,
you
know
like
a
an
ordinance
to
to
require
that
what
I
I
think
I
agree
with
you,
you
should
have
it
and
everything
that
I
have
seen
done
so
lately
or
on
yards
like
this.
I
It's
been
a
you
know
like
makes
making
sure
that
the
the
light
just
goes
to
the
to
the
actual
size
that
needs
to
be
lighted
and
not
it
doesn't
pull
it
away
from
the
building,
but
I
would
be
to
be
honest
on
this
one.
I'm
just
planning
it
as
a
commercial
for
the
the
time
involved
on
the
on
the
on
the
sideline
on
the
next
page,
which
probably
I
will,
I
will
definitely
make
sure
exactly.
D
Just
a
point
of
clarification
at
this
point:
we're
just
approving
the
plan,
but
when
the
commercial
plans
are
submitted,
the
building
department,
one
of
the
things
they're
required
to
comply
with,
is
our
our
ordinance
on
lighting,
which
requires
that
the
the
illumination
of
the
site
is
so
that
it
doesn't.
The
light
goes
deflects
away
from
any
adjoining
residential
properties.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
to
your
attention.
D
A
B
O
A
A
A
B
M
O
I
C
N
F
F
C
A
A
D
But
we
we're
building
on
a
lot.
So
today,
what
we're
going
to
do
is
go
through
the
the
plan,
the
plan
we're
actually
going
to
bring
you
next
time
for
a
recommendation,
but
instead
of
just
bringing
it
to
you
for
a
recommendation,
we
want
to
explain
what
it's
going
to
be
first
and
and
we're
going
to
send
you
a
link
later.
D
But
I
want
to
say
something
now:
some
of
y'all
might
think.
Oh,
my
goodness,
let
me
mute
this
and
watch
the
football
game
or
whatever's
on,
because
because
you
know
I
don't,
I
only
think
people
get
around
by
vehicle
and
and
especially
here
in
laredo,
nobody's
riding
a
bike
around.
If
that's
your
mentality,
let
me
stop
you
dead
in
your
tracks
here,
because
in
a
republican
state
with
a
republican
governor,
who's,
very
conservative
and
developer
friendly.
This
is
what
our
governor
has
said.
D
The
bottom
line
is
this:
the
way
people
get
around
the
way
people
live
is
going
to
change.
This
is
this:
is
governor
abbott
speaking,
this
isn't
california,
whatever
liberal
you
know
governor,
they
have
as
a
result,
this
generation
of
roads
that
we're
in
charge
of
building
is
probably
the
last
major
build
out
of
roads,
we'll
have
in
the
state
of
texas.
D
Even
considering
that
the
fact
that
texas
is
one
of
the
fastest
growing
state
is
the
fastest
growing
state
in
america,
the
future
of
transportation
lies
in
alternatives
to
traditional
motor
vehicle
travel.
This
was
in
january
of
this
year,
where
governor
abbott
was
speaking
to
a
rotary
club.
So
look.
The
reality
is
those
people
that
are
familiar
with
the
process
and
the
and
and
how
things
work.
You
know
how
text
out
is
working,
how
the
funding
work
they
just
know.
We
can't
just
keep
doing
it.
The
way
we've
done.
D
You
can't
keep
building
roads
to
keep
up
with
population
growth
at
some
time.
No
matter
what
you
do
you,
you
can't
build
more
lanes
and
alleviate
traffic.
Anybody
that's
been
to
houston
or
dallas
can
understand
that
you
just
can't
keep
right
now,
I-10
in
houston.
If
you
count
the
frontage
roads,
it's
got
like
28
lanes
and
guess
what
it's
congested,
so
you
can't
build
it
out.
O
D
Going
to
go
into
back
up,
if
I
can't
the
reason
we're
bringing
this,
I
skipped
this
part.
The
reason
we're
bringing
this
to
the
planning
commission
is
because,
when
we
adopt
this
plan,
it's
going
to
be
adopted
as
an
appendix
to
the
comprehensive
plan
and
our
charter
requires
that
anything
we
do
that
affects
development
in
the
city,
any
ordinance
we
change
should
be
brought
to
the
planning
commission.
First
for
your
input,
your
recommendation
before
we
go
to
council.
So
I
apologize
that's.
D
O
Okay,
well,
thank
you.
That's
also
mentioning
yeah
we're
just
gonna
give
a
quick
overview
of
the
chapters
of
the
plan.
So
the
first
chapter
in
the
introduction
we
explain
what
active
transportation
is.
Maybe
a
lot
of
people
in
laredo
do
not
know
what
active
transportation
is.
I
just
want
to
ask
the
commission
would
if
there's
someone
that
wants
to
try
and
give
an
answer
of
what
you
think
active
transportation
is
for
somebody.
Maybe,
commissioner,.
F
You
want
me
to
tell
you
what
active
transportation
is
it's
functional
transportation?
Is
the
mobility
between
point,
a
point
b,
point
c
in
an
effective
and
efficient
manner,
whether
it
be
walking,
cycling,
driving
need
to
run
in
harmony,
and
it
also
helps
with
your
activities.
So
if
you
work
two
blocks
down
the
road,
there
is
no
sense
for
you
to
drive
your
car
two
blocks
down
the
road.
You
can
walk
there
or
drive
your
ride.
Your
bike
there.
O
That
sums
it
up
nicely,
the
active
transportation
is,
as
mr
gotta
mention,
it's
alternate
modes
of
transport,
specifically
using
human-powered
mobility,
and
then
we
go
in
and
explain.
Why
do
we
need
active
transportation?
And
why
do
we
need
it
because
it
improves
access
to
jobs,
supports
healthy
lifestyles
and
can
create
a
vibrant
community?
So
we
start
going
into
in
this
chapter
talking
about
the
different
benefits.
O
So
we
talk
about
the
health
benefits
of
active
transportation
in
2020,
the
rate
of
physical
inactivity
increases
29
in
webb
county,
and
this
has
led
to
an
obesity
rate
of
38
in
the
region.
So
we
do
highlight
the
different
benefits
such
as
health,
and
mention
that
active
transportation
can
improve
health
outcomes
for
the
community.
O
We
continue
to
talk
about
other
benefits
such
as
equity
and
access
benefits,
so
an
accessible,
active
transportation
network
connects
residents
to
jobs
and
improves
upward
mobility.
Here
on
the
left,
you
see
a
map
of
share
of
households
in
poverty,
and
this
is
by
percent
in
poverty.
You
see
those
that
are
in
the
central
grid
of
the
city
in
the
what
some
might
call
the
inner
city
has
higher
concentrations
of
poverty.
O
On
the
right
hand,
side
you'll
see
a
map
total
households
without
vehicles,
again
there's
a
concentration
in
the
inner
city
of
households
without
vehicles.
So
this
shows
that
you
know
we
need
to
make
improvements
to
providing
alternate
modes
of
transport
to
create
accessibility
for
people
in
these
areas,
then
we
go
on
to
also
explain
and
highlight
the
economic
benefits
of
economic.
O
So,
in
this
chapter
we
showcase
how
active
transportation
has
a
positive
impact
on
the
local
economy
and
how
it
benefits:
individuals,
businesses
and
local
governments.
The
transportation
costs
account
for
15.9
percent
of
household
expenditures
in
the
us,
when
you
combine
that
with
housing
and
transportation
costs
that
makes
up
almost
half
of
total
household
costs.
O
So,
by
providing
alternative
modes
of
transport,
we
can
hopefully
help
individuals
and
families
save
some
money
and
also
help
the
economy.
By
providing
you
know,
there's
been
it's
been
shown
that
active
transportation
also
increases
property
values
and
has
several
benefits
like
in
saving
for
infrastructure
and,
lastly,
to
close
this
chapter,
we
highlight
the
traffic
benefits
of
active
transportation.
O
It's
been
shown
that
increased
rates
of
bicycling
and
walking
reduce
traffic
congestion,
improve
safety
and
preserve
road
infrastructure,
and
the
truth
is
like
we
can't
put
our
way
out
of
cont
of
congestion,
as
the
population
continues
to
grow,
we're
going
to
have
more
congestion
and
the
solution
is
not
building
more
vehicle
lanes.
So
we
need
to
find
other
methods.
P
P
You
know,
if
you
look
at
the
the
the
pie
chart
there,
it
shows
local
conditions
on
the
way
your
disposable
income
what's
available,
and
so
taking
all
this
into
account,
we
we
really
reviewed
what
was
going
on
in
the
city
and
being
able
to
provide
a
solution
to
them,
and
with
that
you
know,
we've
looked
also
at
the
system
demand
aside
from
our
local
demand.
We
have
large,
obviously
international
crossing,
and
so
this
is
2019
annual
crossings
at
bridge
number,
one.
D
So
jason,
this
is
the
number
of
pedestrians
and
bicycles
that
cross
bridge
one
into
our
downtown
area
and
then
disperse
throughout
the
city.
So
for
those
that
don't
think,
oh,
we
don't
really
need
this.
We
you
know
most
people
just
get
around
a
bad
car.
Well,
look
at
the
almost
4
million
and
100
000
bicycles
that
have
come
across
there's
a
population
there
you
may
not
be
considering
that
are
our
shoppers.
Are
our
workers
right.
O
O
How
we
developed
this
plan-
and
you
might
think
that
maybe
we
just
developed
this
plan
here
at
our
office
and
everything,
but
we
did
several
public
engagement
activities
so,
for
example,
we
had
some
planning
nights.
You
know
before
covet
where
we
were
able
to
go
out
into
the
community
and
talk
to
residents.
As
you
see
in
your
bottom
left,
you
have
a
picture
of
jason.
O
Talking
to
you
know
our
youth,
and
this
is
an
recreation
center,
just
trying
to
get
some
feedback
about
how
they
think
they
can
improve
their
community
on
the
right
hand,
side
we
have
a
picture
of
kirby
talking
to
when
maybe
it's
a
future
urban
planner
and
then
in
the
back
you'll
see
you
have
some
concerned
looking
adults
they're
concerned
because
they
don't
want
their
their
child
to
become
a
future
public.
Employee,
they're.
D
So
we
had
the
planning
nights
we
had.
We
have
many
existing
plans.
You
might
be
surprised.
We
have
nearly
30
different,
planned
studies
that
we
pulled
from.
We
performed
a
survey
where
we
have
nearly
2
000
respondents
across
the
city
that
that
gave
us
their
thoughts,
and
then
we
zoned
in
on
a
few
residents
in
particular,
who
use
active
transportation
quite
a
bit
in
their
lives
and
got
their
personal,
take
their
personal
suggestions
on
how
we
could
improve
the
system.
P
In
those
plans
that
we
reviewed,
we
went
as
far
back
to
1975
on
that
bike
feasibility
study
up
till
the
recent
2020
so
45
years
worth
of
work,
we're
building
on
and
integrating
that
into
our
plan.
Using
the
work,
that's
been
done
before
and
really
tying
it
into
our
current
day
with
the
existing
conditions.
P
With
the
public
survey,
as
mentioned,
we
had
nearly
1900
respondents
and
over
half
or
just
right,
nearly
half
of
them
were
under
the
age
of
18.
So
our
future
of
our
city
has
really
chimed
in
on
this
plan,
as
well
as
we've
got
a
diverse
group
of
you
know,
incomes
and
and
age
groups
that
really
spoke
up
and
provided
their
comments
on
how
they
wanted
to
see
laredo
build
out.
D
I
want
to
give
a
lot
of
credit
to
our
planners
here.
We
that
is
not
a
fluke
that
we
got
that
many
under
18..
We
worked
hard.
We
did.
We
we've
had
this
survey
open
for
several
months
and
we
kept
going
out
and
promoting
this
out
on
social
media
and
talking
different
groups
and
the
school
districts
again
and
again
and
again
jason.
How
many
times
did
we
ask
school
districts
to
disperse
this
to
get
this
survey
out?
Probably
I
don't.
P
D
So,
through
a
lot
of
work,
we
really
targeted
that
under
18,
because
you
know
what
we're
interested
in
what
some
of
the
old
folks
have
to
say,
but
really
who
is
going
to
be
using
this
system
that
is
going
to
take
decades
really
to
to
come
to
fruition?
It's
the
people
that
are
young,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we
understand
where
they're
coming
from
and
what
their
interests
in
this
is.
P
All
right
so
in
some
just
to
review
some
of
the
questions
that
we
had
asked
on,
the
top
to
see
should
bicycle
lanes
be
required
in
all
the
responses
of
1895.
The
87
of
the
responses
said.
Yes,
we
should
build
bike
lanes.
They
should
be
required
when
we
build
roads
at
access.
Neighborhoods
and
another
question
we
ask:
would
you
ride
more
often
with
protected
bike
lanes
and
so
as
well
resounding
82
said
yes
and
yeah,
you
might
think
okay?
P
Well,
they
wouldn't
ask
all
these
bike
people
if
they
want
to
ride-
and
you
know
these
guys
are
just
skewing
their
answers.
But
another
question
that
we
asked
was:
how
often
do
you
ride
and
so
we
filtered
that
out.
Do
you
see
I
never
ride
a
bicycle
on
the
bottom
left
using
that
filtered
answers
with
the
same
question?
Should
bicycle
lanes
be
required
still
an
82
response
of?
Yes,
we
should
build
bicycle
lanes
when
they
lead
to
neighborhoods
and
then
on
the
right.
P
The
other
question
would
you
ride
more
often
with
protected
bike
lanes
the
people
that
said
I
never
ride.
A
bicycle
were
still
willing
to
ride
a
bike.
If
there
were
protected
bike
lanes,
so
this
really
highlights
the
safety
component
that
people
are
interested
in
riding,
but
they
don't
feel
safe
on
the
road
and
and
they
wish
there
were
some
more
facilities
that
would
provide
them.
That
access.
P
This
is
our
spectrum
of
different
types
of
users
of
the
transportation
network.
You
know,
as
you
may
think,
there's
just
drivers.
Well,
everybody
gets
around
the
city
a
little
bit
different,
and
these
are
just
the
highlight
of
you
know
a
group
of
people
that
we
went
out
and
met
engaged
their
interest
as
well
as
how
they
use
the
system.
O
The
recommendations
are
broken
down
by
mode
of
transport
and
I
won't
go
through
each
of
them,
but
I
will
highlight
a
few
of
them
just
and
just
to
note
they
are
summarized
by
priority
from
a
to
z,
and
this
was
all
based
on
feedback
feasibility
and
the
importance
of
the
goals
of
the
plan.
So
on
this
one
for
bicycle,
one
that
I
want
to
highlight
is
letter
g.
So
we
want
to
improve
access
to
trails
at
the
neighborhood
level.
O
D
O
I
was
thinking
about
that
and
the
last
smile,
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
heard
of
that
problem.
The
last
mile
someone
gets
off
the
bus,
but
they
still
have
to
walk
them
out
to
reach
their
home.
Just
to
highlight
some
recommendations
from
here.
We
want
to
collaborate
with
a
third-party
micro
mobility
provider
to
establish
a
bike
share
program
in
laredo,
and
we
also
and
letter
d
enhance
transit
stops
to
provide
micro
mobility
hubs.
Something
that's
also
very
important
is
way
finding.
D
A
D
P
D
15
facilities
and
and
a
lot
of
people
under
guess
that's
one
of
our
survey
questions,
and
so
it
really
taught
us
really
informed
us
that
you
know
what
maybe
we
don't
advertise
these
as
well
as
we
could.
So
it's
really
important
to
let
the
public
know
when
they're
driving
around
here's,
a
big
sign
that
says:
hey
you're
crossing
this
this
trail
and
they
might
think
maybe
next
time
I'll
take
my
bike
there
or
maybe
next
time,
I'll,
walk
along
that.
You
know
they'll
utilize
it
more
because
they
know
it's
there.
O
And
then,
finally,
it's
we
have
other
recommendations
which
don't
quite
fit
anywhere
and
they're
more
programmatic
in
nature.
So,
for
example,
like
letter
f
we'd
like
to
initiate
a
bike
to
work
for
school
day
and
we've
seen
this
work
in
other
cities.
So
I
think
it'd
be
a
great
idea
just
to
promote
biking
in
our
community.
A
P
A
D
D
The
reality
is
you
look
at
places
like
minneapolis
that
have
a
very
active
active
transportation,
community
bike,
bicyclers
walker,
pedestrian,
and
they
only
have
seven
months
of
the
year
eight
months
a
year
before
it's
too
way
too
cold
there's
ice
on
the
ground
snow
on
the
ground.
We
don't
have
any
of
those
impediments,
it
just
gets
a
little
hot
and
one
of
the
cool
things
technology-wise
is
coming
out
with
e-bikes
that
assist
your
riding.
D
C
O
All
right,
so,
just
to
finish
off
these
last
two
chapters:
the
implementation
plan.
We
talked,
we
created
an
annual
benchmark
to
construct
at
least
four
miles
of
bike
facilities
which
are
identified
in
our
proposed
network,
and
we
developed
a
strategic
framework
to
make
sure
that
the
plants
implement
it,
and
this
will
require
lots
of
funding
different
funding
strategies
to
accomplish
this
and
our
last
chapter
complete
streets.
You
know
we
something
that
is
unique
about
this
plan.
A
Let
me
ask
you
one,
a
question
on
that:
yes,
our
existing
streets
that
you
guys
are
looking
at
in
this
plan,
you
know
I'm
seeing
the
diagram
that
you're
showing
me
it's
a
beautiful.
You
know
street
laid
out,
probably
the
right
of
way.
There
looks
like
over
120
feet
on
what
you
guys
are
looking
at
right.
Now
we
have
a
lot
of
already
existing
streets
that
are
narrow
for
lack
of
a
better
word.
A
D
Commissioner,
I'll
take
that
question
all
right.
We
want
a
policy
in
place
that
requires
it
certain
elements
when
they're
on
the
plan,
so
we're
not
suggesting
bike
lanes
bike,
bicycle
paths,
shared
use,
paths,
we're
not
suggesting
that
on
every
road,
we're
suggesting
it
on
strategic
corridors,
strategic
roads,
but
when
it
comes
to
building
roads
they
do
need
to
include
certain
facilities.
The
minimum
will
be
pedestrians,
accounting
for
pedestrians
and
some
other
places
transit,
but
we
do
provide
an
outlet.
You
know
like
on
your
water
line.
D
If
it,
let
me
repeat
that,
if,
if
adding,
if
making
the
street
a
complete
street,
exceeds
a
certain
percentage
of
the
project,
cost
total
project
cost,
then
the
city
can
optionally
choose
not
to
do
that
and
but
but
the
key
point
here
is
they
just
can't
ignore
it?
They
got
to
consider
it
and
say:
hey,
we
looked
at
it
and
it
is
too
expensive,
so
we're
making
the
decision
not
to
include
it.
D
A
D
Well,
they
already
have,
sir
there
they
change
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
if
you
look
back
on
your
comprehensive
plan,
you'll
notice
that,
depending
on
whether
it's
an
arterial
or
collector
that
they
have
to
include
that
their
the
right-of-way
widths
are
spelled
out,
and
there
are
requirements
for
bicycle
lanes
and
pedestrians
yeah.
Okay,
I
want
to
refine
that
a
little
bit
because,
right
now
it's.
A
A
D
A
D
F
F
F
F
D
Yeah
I
appreciate
that
feedback.
This
is
just
a
presentation,
have
an
overview
of
the
plan,
so
you
guys
have
an
overview.
The
plan
does
include
looking
at
the
economic,
both
the
economic
impacts,
the
economic
situation
that
make
translation
beneficial
to
the
city.
So
those
are
things
we
address
in
the
plan
so
with
just
in
the
interest
of
time
we're
going
to
skip
a
little
bit
through
this
jason.
The
point
we
wanted
to
make
here
was
just
that.
D
D
The
city
is
20
20
miles
from
north
to
south
and
10
miles
east
to
west,
and
we
have
35
miles
of
bicycle
paths
in
the
city,
but
all
almost
all
that
is
disconnected
the
result
is
that
our
longest
path,
where
you
can
ride
a
to
b
and
not
get
off
and
then
have
to
get
back
on,
is
only
four
miles
and
it's
chicone
creek.
So
the
issue
here
we're
making
is
we
don't
need
more
bike
routes.
D
D
You
click
on
that
and
you'll
get
to
see
all
these
that
you
can
review
in
depth
the
recommendations
that
we
quickly
went
through
in
the
presentation
and
then
you
click
on
the
proposed
bike
network
you're
going
to
be
taken
to
this
and
what
you'll
see
is
a
bunch
of
colors
signifying
the
bike
routes
at
certain
times.
These
can
be.
These
layers
can
be
clipped
on
and
off
they're
on
the
left.
So
if
you
click
off
the
proposed-
and
you
look
at
just
the
existing,
this
is
what
we
have
right
now.
D
These
are
the
bike
facilities
we
currently
have,
and
you
can.
You
can
expand
this
and
you
can
get
more
details
by
clicking
on
these
and
zooming
in
and
out
tells
you
how
long
it
is
what
type
it
is.
There's
a
lot
of
good
data
in
here.
So
that's
all
on
the
left.
Here's
what
we
have
existing
here's,
what
we're
proposing
to
add
in
10
years.
D
I
want
to
say
that
we
didn't
just
draw
some
lines
on
the
map.
First,
like
like
all
this
plan,
we
reviewed
this
comes
from
many
plans
over
20
different
plans
and
studies
that
the
city's
done
from
the
1970s
a
lot
in
the
90s
and
2000s
projects
that
are
currently
underway
projects.
There's
funding
for
projects.
There
aren't
you
know
the
river
vega,
several
projects
that
have
been
identified
and
then
also
things
that
could
happen.
We
looked
at
the
infrastructure,
we
looked
at
the
right-of-way,
we
looked
at
what
made
sense.
D
We
consulted
our
traffic
department
and
other
departments.
We
consulted
stakeholders
who
are
out
there.
So
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
this.
I
know
they
just
like
look
like
lines
on
a
map,
but
but
no
there's
a
lot
of
analysis
behind
this.
Here's
the
proposed
projects
to
occur
within
20
years
and
then
the
proposed
projects
have
built
out
that
by
the
way
this
is
adding
35
miles
every
year,
which
again
is
very
doable.
D
D
Obviously,
that
will
need
to
be
updated
every
few
years,
every
three
to
five
years.
So
this
is
what
we're
going
to
share
with
you.
So
don't
worry,
you
can
go
into
depth
and
we're
going
to
have
another
chance
at
this
plan.
We're
going
to
bring
it
back
to
you
for
recommendation
for
adoption
at
the
next
meeting.
So
we
don't
want
you
to
feel
it's
rushed.
You
have
a
chance
to
review
it.
Let
me
review
those
next
steps.
D
We
came
here.
We
already
went
to
the
technical
committee
meeting
for
the
mpo
we
this
is
today
the
planning
commission
meeting
october
15th
we're
headed
to
the
city
council
for
a
workshop
on
the
19th,
we're
going
to
go
to
the
policy
committee
of
the
npo
on
the
19th
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
the
planning
commission
on
the
5th
of
november.
The
next
planning
commission
meeting
for
your
recommendation
to
council
and
then
council
for
adoption
on
the
16th.
D
That's
will
take
two
readings
actually,
so
we
need
to
update
this
remind
me,
juan
or
jason,
and
then
the
technical
community
policy
committee
and
then
the
county
we're
talking
to
them
when
we
can
get
on
their
agenda
to
present
to
them
as
well.
We
would
like
them
to
at
least
adopt
a
policy
in
here,
so
any
questions
or
comments.
K
D
I
understood
enough
to
say
that
we
looked
at
all
those
things
in
the
plan
and
once
you
get
the
plan
you're
going
to
see
that
we
address
those
issues,
but
let
me
speak
specifically
that
to
that
pos
to
that
comment
that
it's
not
possible
there.
There
are
routes
that
doesn't
seem
possible
and
it
won't
be
possible
for
everybody,
we're
not
suggesting
that
everybody
in
the
city
is
going
to
ride
a
bike
to
work
or
to
go
shopping
right
now.
D
If
you
look
at
the
census,
we
get
less
than
one
percent
less
than
one
percent
of
all
trips.
Our
bicycle
are
by
bicycle:
in
a
city
of
our
size,
just
an
average
city
of
our
size
in
america,
they're
getting
three
to
four
percent
in
the
cities
that
are
actually
doing
something.
You
know
they
have
bike
lanes.
They
have
a
program,
they
have
a
plan
they're
getting
eight
to
nine
percent.
So
we're
not
talking
about
25
we're
not
talking
we're,
certainly
not
talking
about
50,
we're
very
realistic.
D
We're
talking
about
bumping
that
one
percent
up
to
just
normal
cities
are
at
and
we
definitely
can
do
it
so
again.
This
is
not
about
getting
everybody
to
ride
their
bike
to
work.
This
is
about
making
that
option
available
to
more
and
hopefully
getting
up
to
five
or
ten
percent,
which
would
be
very
good
for
the
city.
P
Can
I
add
to
that
kirby
just
in
regards
to
a
lot
of
the
design
we've
designed
this,
and
with
that
in
mind,
people
won't
feel
safe
right
now,
because
there's
not
enough
public
awareness
on
it.
So
our
initial
tenure
design
is
to
go
in
through
the
off
street,
go
through
the
arroyos
and
the
creekways
that
that
way
people
are
separated
from
the
traffic
and
connecting
those
spaces.
Like
mr
dolina
said,
using
the
rio
vega
lands
using
that
connection,
the
first
one
top
priority
would
be
connecting
chaquan
creek
to
sakate
creek
right
now.
P
F
F
F
If,
if
we
do
this,
it's
going
to
cost
so
much,
and
if
we
do
this,
I
am
proposing
or
I'm
planning
that
I'm
going
to
have
an
increase
in
sales
tax
from
from
bicycles,
increasing
sales
tax
from
more
tennis
shoes
and
you
you
create
the
line
items
and
then
put
that
number
in
there
and
if
there's
a
surplus
and
it's
a
it's
a
doable
project,
we
can't
we
can't
sustain
another
project.
That
is
the.
D
A
I
think
too,
that
these
courses
that
rules
talking
about
are
you
know.
His
point
is
well
taken,
but
remember
that
there
are
funding
sources
out
there
from
different
areas.
You
know
the
state
puts
out
monies
for
these
kind
of
things,
so
it's
not
just
the
local
impact
that
we
would
be.
You
know
stuck
with.
There
are
grants
out
there
that
could
be
utilized
to
enhance
trails
and
and
this
type
of
stuff.
So
I
think
you
know
a
combination
of
funding
sources,
but
I
agree
with
you.
A
I
I'm
sure
that
kirby
and
your
staff,
you
guys
have
already
kind
of
like
hypothetically,
put
together
some
kind
of
a
plan
as
to
how
you're
going
to
go
forward
in
the
future,
how,
let's
say
phase
one
you
know
what
kind
of
funding
and
where
it
would
come
from
and
stuff
like
that,
and
it's
like
a
long-term
funding
plan
and
like
it's
like
an
improvements
project
where
you
have
a
five-year
plan.
Your
plan,
that
kind
of
thing
exactly.
C
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
that
city
bought
over
a
thousand
acres
of
land
on
the
river
vega,
and
it
currently
owns
that
property,
and
it
was
purchased
many
years
ago
with
the
intent
of
providing
access
on
the
river
vega,
not
only
for
bicycles
but
also
for
automobiles,
and
that
was
the
purpose
of
going
out
there
and
buying
that
land.
The
the
reason
that
the
waterways
were
used
in
order
to
create
linear
parks
was,
for
the
same
reason
and
all
of
those
properties
were
partially
bought
during
that
period
of
time.
D
L
Okay,
this
is
chairman,
commissioner.
First
of
all
kirby
great
great
plan,
I
love
it.
I
think
it's
it's
it's
exactly
what
we
were
looking
for
when
we
were
looking
to
get
a
new
planner,
exactly
this
kind
of
leadership
that
we
need
in
our
community,
and
I
want
to
put
you
and
jason
and
juan
for
your
work
very
well
done.
I
I
I.
I
think
this
is
a
no-brainer
it's.
L
This
is
the
future:
it's
not
sustainable
for
cars
to
be
driving
the
roads,
the
way
that
we
have
been
doing
for
the
last
40
50
years,
and-
and
this
is
a
great
plan
for
preparing
for
that
shift
in
our
in
in
the
way
that
we
we
travel
and
we
transport
ourselves.
I
what
I
do
like
about-
I
rarely
agree
with
commissioner
ugalde
and
I
don't
agree
with
anything
he
said
right
now,
but
I
think
what's
important
about
what
he
said.
L
Is
that
and
the
same
thing
that
either,
but
it's
important
about
what
the
feedback
was?
Is
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
who
are
very
skeptical,
who
are
very
unsure?
Who
aren't
who
aren't
open
to
this
type
of
change
occurring?
And
I
think
it's
good
for
you
all
to
take
that
into
account
in
the
presentations
themselves
and
put
more
and
beef
up
those
parts
more.
L
D
Okay-
that's
a
note,
I
I
think
that's
good.
A
good
criticism
will
take
positive
criticism
that
we'll
highlight
what's
in
the
plan,
because
all
those
concerns
are
addressed.
We
just
we
don't
want
to
take
an
hour
of
your
time,
so
we
tried
to
condense
it,
but
we'll
make
sure
we
highlight
that
with
every
presentation
going
forward,
that
there
is
a
that
this
is
a
conservative
plan,
we're
not
proposing
thousands
of
bicycle
miles
in
pedestrian,
we're
not
proposing
that
we're.
This
is
very
conservative
in
terms
of
what
other
cities
are
doing.
D
Conservative
approach
number
one
and
number
two
we're
identifying
sources
of
funding
and
sources
of
grants.
Some
of
the
projects
already
have
that
that
are
on
the
plan,
so
we
will
highlight
that
that's
very
good,
very
good
feedback.
We
appreciate
that
we'll
do
that
going
forward
because
you're
right.
A
I
think
one
other
thing
that
we
need.
I
mean
your
plan
is
a
good
one
and
what
I'm
seeing,
I
think,
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
push
heavily
is
for
kids
to
go
out
and
and
do
bicycling
I
mean,
given
that
this
hispanic
population
has
a
high
rate
of
diabetes
and
now
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
the
younger
kids.
All
they
do
is
sit
back
and
play
video
games.
You
know
the
outside
activities
are
being
curtailed.
A
We
need
to
work
in
conjunction,
I
think,
with
our
health
department,
to
push
this
plan
to
get
people
to
be
more
physically
active,
and
you
know
it's
a
healthier
lifestyle
that
needs
to
be
pushed
because
from
what
I'm
seeing
right
now,
kids
don't
want
to
go
outside
and
play,
they
want
to
stay
inside
and
play
video
games
and
we
need
to
figure
out
mechanisms
whether
it's
you
know
partnering
with
schools
in
terms
of
a
physical
education
class.
Where
you
go
cycling,
I
don't
know
thinking
out
of
the
box
type
thing.
That's
just
my
comment.
D
F
D
K
K
A
C
C
D
D
We
appreciate
it,
so
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
each
and
every
one
of
you,
and
I
also
wanted
to
to
let
you
know
that
your
feedback
is
very
important
to
us,
and
so
so
please
give
it
and
and
if
there's
anything
we
can
do
to
help
you
better
prepare
for
these
meetings.
You
let
us
know.
Thank
you
very
much.