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Planning and Zoning Committee Meeting111920
B
Pretty
good,
commissioner,
you
are
muted,
but
you
have
a
quorum
when
you're
ready
to
start
all
right.
C
C
G
Mr
sherman
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
excuse,
commissioner
flores.
If
I'd
be
in
order.
C
C
Second,
all
right,
only
those
who
are
not
in
favor
of
the
motion
signify
by
saying
aye
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
we
have
is
citizens
comments
and
kirby
will
give
you
60
seconds.
B
B
So
I'll
just
use
these
few
seconds
to
reiterate
that
it
really
helps
the
audio
quality
not
only
for
the
public
that
will
be
watching
on
the
broadcast,
but
also
for
the
youtube.
Video
that
will
be
a
public
record
really
helps
the
audio
quality.
If
you
mute
yourself
when
you're
not
talking,
even
if
you
can't
hear
it,
it
can
create
feedback
for
others.
So
I
really
appreciate
the
muting.
If
you
happen
to
forget
I'm
I
will
mute
you,
but
I
don't
do
that
to
be
rude
just
to
preserve
the
audio
quality.
I
C
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
Next
item:
stat
presentation:
this
is
item
5a
presentation
of
the
parks
and
recs
department,
open
space
master
plan.
J
J
First
of
all,
before
I
even
start,
I
want
to
thank
my
my
staff
here
with
me
is
miss
anita
stanley
and
over
there
I
see
him
now
working
for
the
painting
apartment,
mrs
gracievrion
friones-
that
had
a
lot
of
input
into
into
putting
this
this
this
together,
it's
been
a
couple
of
years
in
the
working,
so
I
know
we
showed
you
all
the
link.
We
said
we
shared
you
the
link
with
you
all
to
as
far
as
what
the
master
plan
looks
like.
J
Hopefully,
we
can
put
it
to
work
and
tie
it
in
with
everything
we
want
to
do
here
for
the
city
and
looking
forward
to
hopefully
taking
it
to
council
and
and
taking
it
from
there.
As
you
can
see
this
in
the
slide
that
you
see
there
right
now,
it's
the
parkland
open
space
master.
It
addresses
that
our
park
lands
that
we
have
right
now:
the
development
maintenance
of
the
facilities,
the
recreation
programs,
the
administration
operation,
maintenance
that
we
need
to
do
and
the
funding
opportunities.
J
It's
important
that
we
pass
this
master
plan
because
it
opens
up
now
so
that
we
can
go
out
there
and
and
seek
out
grants
with
the
texas
wildlife
commission,
the
different
grants
that
are
out
there,
that
99
of
them
require
some
type
of
master
plan.
So
this,
hopefully,
will
open
up
the
door
for
us
now
that
we
can
apply
for
different
grants
for
parks
around
the
city
white
plan
now
well.
This
was
this
was
last.
J
It
was
last
done
in
2008
been
12
years
ago,
since
it
was
that's
done
so
I
know
it
has
been.
It's
been
in
the
works,
so
our
goal
was
to
have
at
the
end
of
it
done
by
the
end
of
this
year,
which
it
looks
like
we
did
once
we
once
we
go
through
you
want
to
take
it
to.
Council
recommends
brother
hammers
of
the
operations
for
our
department
and
where
we
need
to
improve
where
we're
deficient
from
and
where
we
want
to
go.
J
Okay,
how
did
how
did
they
come
to
the
conclusion
of
this?
So
they
had
a
stakeholders
meeting
among
with
all
the
with
the
with
the
public
as
well.
They
took
it
to
our.
We
visited
more
than
various
times
with
our
parks,
parks
and
rec
advisory
board
had
open
houses
that
the
different
with
in
different
in
different
districts
of
the
city
and
all
districts
of
the
city,
to
get
the
their
feedback,
and
also
they
gave
an
online
survey
that
people
can
can
share
their
thoughts
and
their
feedback
as
well.
J
After
doing
that,
they
they
they
give
us
an
analysis
and
some
of
your
recommendations
for
needs
and
preferences
that
we
need
preliminary
recommendations
that
we're
going
to
go
with.
We
finished
with
the
draft
and
now
we're
just
waiting
on
the
last
step
there,
which
is
a
final
approval.
That's
pending,
okay,
what
the
recommend
the
recommendations
that
they
gave
us
here
in
this
in
this
in
this
master
plan
is
the
levels
of
service
that
they
recommend
it's
categorized
by
the
parkland.
What
type
of
parts
we
need?
J
How
can
it
be
accessible
to
the
public,
recreational
facilities,
rec
centers,
different
areas
that
we
have
around
the
city
and
then
recreational
programs
that
we
offer
right
now
and
that
and
we
would-
and
they
advise
us
to
hopefully
offer
in
in
the
near
future,
on
the
levels
of
service
assessment
types,
demand-based
assessment:
what
what
does
the
public
need?
What
what?
What
are
they?
What
are
they
asking
for?
What
resources
do
we
have
and
what
services
do
we
want?
We
want
we
want
them
to
for
us
to
offer.
Now.
J
This
is
just
a
recommendation.
It
is
not
a
set
and
stone
map
said.
Okay,
you
need
to
follow
this.
It's.
It
is
a
recommendation
that
we
that
we
follow
and
then
we
can,
of
course,
if
we
have
to
deviate
here
and
there,
depending
on
the
resources
that
we
have,
then
we
can
go
from
there
out
of
the
out
of
the
according
to
what
they
gave
us.
They
gave
us
80
recommendations.
J
Those
80
recommendations
came
from
six
goals
that
they
gave
us
consistent
with
the
viva
alberto
comprehensive
plan,
which
is
very
important
for
you
understand
that
you
know
they
focus
the
operational
regulations,
the
policies,
the
programs
and
the
studies.
J
It
addresses
addresses
some
financial,
some
financial
investments,
as
well
as
talk
about
park,
improvement
fees
and
whatnot,
and-
and
these
are
the
six
goals
that
you
have
here
in
front
of
us-
I
don't
want
to
go
through
each
one
of
them,
but
it's
part-time
development,
as
you
can
see
there,
acquisition
of
parts
of
we
have
maybe
possibly
the
fees
for
for
the
park
that
we
want
to
that.
We
want
to
that.
We
currently
have
now
that
maybe
we
can
change
more
recreational
programs,
the
condition
of
the
park.
J
As
you
know,
we
have
over
100
parks,
so
we
got
to
maintain
them
as
well,
connecting
all
the
linear
parts
into
one
big
old
parks
that
we
can
offer
bicycles
and
pedestrians
and
everything
together.
So
we
can
tie
it
in
together
with
all
the
main
parks
and,
of
course,
the
operation,
the
administration
and
the
maintenance
of
all
these
of
our
departments.
J
All
right
on
this
and
this
table
that
you
have
here,
it
shows
us
and
if
you're
looking
at
the
table,
it
shows
us
currently
what
we
have
right
now,
the
recommendation
that
they
gave
us
where
we
at
right.
Now
we
do.
We
have
a
surplus.
Is
there
a
deficit
and
where
do
we
want
to
be
in
the
next
20
years?
So
that's
kind
of
that's
kind
of
where
we're
kind
of
the
flat
that
we
want
that.
J
We
want
to
target,
of
course,
nothing's
set
in
stone,
but
we
want
to
be
able
to
be
able
to
hopefully
have
some
kind
of
road
map
where
we
want
to
take
our
department
to
recommendations,
for
example,
the
trailer
linear
parks
and
greenways.
J
We
want
to
be
able
to
tie
up
all
the
parks
together
and,
for
example,
we'll
have
a
trailhead
with
bicycles,
with
the
bicycle
trails
and
bicycle
lanes,
so
that
we
can
tie
everything
together
as
well
as
one
as
one
unit,
and
hopefully
you
know,
regulation
as
far
as
as
far
as
trail
dedication
how
to
connect
all
these
trails
together,
which
we
currently
have
some
now.
But
we
still
got
to
work
on
that
and
and
have
one
big
linear
parts
that
we
want
to
do
for
the
for
the
department.
So.
B
I'll
make
a
note
that
the
later
that
the
laredo
active
transportation
plan
correlates
with
this
we've,
we've
made
sure
both
plans
are
congruent
and
the
recommendations
that
are
coming
in
the
active
transportation
plan,
with
bicycle
and
pedestrian
infrastructure
and
then
also
the
parks
master
plan
as
well.
So
they
they
are
both
saying
the
same
thing.
J
J
This
is
where
your
division
is
so
that
we
can
kind
of
keep
an
inventory
of
what
we
have
and
what
we
need
to
fix
and
what
we
need
to,
what
how
we
can
use
it
better,
maybe
to
generate
some
some
type
of
revenue
and-
and
that's
the
that's
a
little
checklist
that
we
want
to
use
now
in
our
department
to
better
all
the
facilities
that
we
have.
One
of
the
target
hierarchies
that
we
want
to
have
in
working
with
kirby
and
everybody
here
is
that
the
main
thing
we
want
to
have.
J
In
a
nutshell,
the
gentleman
mr
chairman
and
and
committee
this
is
this
is
what
it
is
right
now.
I
know
it's
a
big
old,
it's
a
big
old
document,
but
if
you
have
any
questions,
I'm
gonna
open
up
to
here
with
me.
It's
miss
anita
stanley.
Also
that
we
could
possibly
answer
any
questions
or
any
concerns
that
you
may
have.
B
And
just
a
little
bit
of
information
when
you're
ready,
commissioner
commissioners
and
chairman,
what
you
would
be
doing
is
sending
a
recommendation
to
council
either
positive
or
not
for
the
adoption
of
this
plan.
So
you're
not
adopting
it
here.
You're
just
sending
a
recommendation
to
city
council
who,
who
at
public
hearing
will
hear
it
as
well
as
take
input
from
the
public.
J
K
Thank
you
this
this
is
deus.
I
have
a
question
for
coach
director
ole
miss
that's.
K
It's
all
right,
you
really
want,
as
far
as
I
know,
that
we're
having
a
hiring
freeze
or
or
there's
financial
constraints
with
the
request
or
park
system
planner
is
there
a
way
that
there
would
be
one
person
dedicated
at
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
to
integrate
that,
because
one
of
the
many
times
we've
had
issues
is
we
get
these
preliminary
master
pla
with
the
idea
that
there's
going
to
be
parkland
dedication,
but
there's
no
long-term
integration
with
the
parks
and
rec
department
and-
and
a
lot
of
this
is
before
your
time.
J
J
Hopefully
we
can
put
it
out
pretty
soon
so
that
he
or
she
can
just
specifically
what
you're
asking
there
is
work
with
the
planning
know
what
parts
are
coming
up
and
they
can
coordinate
with
all
these
activities
going
on,
especially
that
you
all
pass
and
plan
and
work
work,
work
closely
hand
in
hand
with
kirby
and
his
staff,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we,
you
know
we.
We
have
a
checks
and
balances
for
everything,
so
that
is
already
in
the
process.
It
should
be
coming
out
here
pretty
soon.
J
I
know
there
was
a
hiring
freeze,
but
city
management
gave
us
the
okay
to
go
ahead
and
do
that
and
and
here's
he
or
she
will
have
an
office
here
and
pretty
much
will
have
enough,
is
also
in
the
building
department
and
working
hand
in
hand
with
what,
with
with
kirby's
department,.
C
J
Oh
yeah,
I'm
excited
about
it
because
I
know
we're.
I
know
where
we
try
our
best
and
I
know
gracie
was
helping
us
as
well
and
doing
the
transition,
but
it
is
it
is
it
is
it's
a
big
job,
it's
a
very
important
job
and
I
think
we
need
to
get
somebody
who's
going
to
come
in
here.
That's
going
to
help
us
with
that
and
make
them
make
it
make
it
best
for
all
departments
in
the
city.
J
M
Is
larry,
though,
are
you
still
accepting
pocket
parks?
I
heard
you
mentioned
that
she
had
over
100
parts.
C
M
C
Is
this
plan
addressing
that
issue
to
where
you're
going
to
create
regional
parks?
The
reason
mcnavo
is
there
the
reason
central
park?
Is
there
the
reason
eleven?
Is
there
the
reason
santa
rita?
Is
there
the
reason,
liberty,
hills
and
that
other
area
up
there
on
hilltop
is
there
is
because
we
pushed
for
him
back
then,
and-
and
so
I
wonder,
if
somehow,
you've
gotten
away
from
that
and
moved
in
a
different
direction.
J
Yes,
sir,
I'm
glad
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up.
One
of
the
things
that
we
we've
coordinated
with
with
this
with
with
happens
is
that
we
need
to
get
away
from
these
pocket
parts
because
you
hit
it
right
on
the
head.
The
maintenance
takes
a
lot
of
time
for
our
guys
to
go
in
there
and
clean
it
up
and-
and
you
know,
we're
we
don't
have
enough
staff
we
right
now.
J
We
currently
have
just
to
give
you
an
idea
prca,
which
is
the
parking
recreation
federal
agencies
requires
one
one
person,
one
worker
for
every
eight
acres
right
now
we're
about
one
person
for
every
12
to
15
acres,
so
we're
shorthanded,
and
I
don't
understand
what
the
titles
were
going
on.
But
we
to
answer
your
question.
I
I'm
definitely
trying
to
get
away
from
the
pocket
parts
all
right.
J
We
need
those
bigger
regional
parts,
so
it
can
be
easier
to
to
to
to
get
more
people
staff
that
can
take
care
of
that,
and
we
did.
We
did
show
this
recommendation
to
this
agency
and
little
by
little,
we're
not
gonna
we're
trying
to
stay
away
from
these
pocket
parks.
Sir,
to
answer
your
question.
J
Yes,
sir,
that's
what
we
wanted!
That's
what
we
want
to
do,
for
example,
if
you,
if
you're
right
now
the
ordinance
says
if
you're,
if
you're
subdivision
with
a
mile
and
a
half
of
a
park,
we
can
use
that
money
for
the
park
improvement
fee
to
go,
take
it
to
another
park,
so.
N
If
there's,
for
example,
there's
a.
J
Subdivision
near
north
central
park,
that's
real
small!
It's
probably
about
15
20
lots
right
next
to
the
country
club.
We
would
like
for
that
money
to
go
put
it
into
north
central
park,
which
is
about
a
mile
half
less
than
a
mile
and
a
half
from
there.
So
that's
kind
of
what
we're
pushing
to
sir
and
that's
so
that
we
can.
You
know
better
our
parts
as
well
too,
but
you
know
try
to
try
to
try
to
give
us
money
in
lieu
of,
in
other
words
instead
of
by
building
those
pocket
parts.
A
On
your
implementation
chapter,
I'm
looking
for
some
kind
of
a
status
update
or
how
often
you'll
give
updates
and
to
who
you
will
give
those
updates,
for
example,
if
you
were
to
give
those
updates
every
every
year,
because
some
of
your
proposals
here,
your
implementations,
have
your
timeline
of
one
to
two
years
due
to
five
years
and
some
are
ongoing.
A
But
most
of
us,
you
know
we're
only
here
as
long
as
we
are
and
then
we
then
we're
out.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
have
any
kind
of
update
status,
reporting
timeline,
whether
you
come
back
to
png
a
year
from
now
and
give
us
a
status
on
on
some
of
the
projects.
You
have
here
sure
that
we're
one
to
two
years.
J
So,
mr
guarantee,
normally
every
the
every
it's
recommended
every
five
years
we
gotta
update
the
math,
the
the
master
plan
and
as
long
as
I'm
here,
that's
what
I
want
to
shoot
for
to
get
those
five
years.
So
my
my
my
my
goal,
or
it's
going
to
happen,
that
we
would
like
to
report
to
you
all
at
least
once
a
year
at
the
end
of
every
year,
to
see
where
we
are
in
progress
where,
where
we
at
what
what's?
J
What's
where
what's
needed,
what
process
we're
going
at
the
end
of
every
year,
at
least
once
a
year
I'd
like
to?
We
can
do
it
twice
a
year,
but
at
least
once
a
year
around
this
time
of
the
year,
to
give
you
all
the
status
of
the
assessments
of
what's
going
on
with
with
with
all
our
parks.
So
I
think
that.
A
J
Sir,
no,
no,
no,
but
that
I
that's
that's
not
dictated
in
there,
but
in
meeting
and
talking
with
staff.
That's
where
that's
what
we're
looking
at
that
we
can
update
you
all
and
also
that
same
thing
I
took.
I
told
the
partner
parks
board
committee
is
that
we
were
also
going
to
update
with
them
once
a
year
as
well
to
keep
everybody
in
the
loop.
That's
what's
what's
going
on.
I
know
it's
not
there,
but
that's
what
we
want
to
do
so
that's
what
I
want
to
do.
A
I
have
a
strong
feeling
that
that
should
be
mandatory.
F
O
E
J
E
C
J
Work
I
never
liked.
I
was
not
around
sir,
for
I
was
just
I've
just
been
on
board
for
about
a
year
some
couple
of
months.
I
would
I
wouldn't
I
don't
want.
I
don't
know
how
to
answer
that
question
to
you,
because
I
don't
know
who
who,
as
far
as
who
was
followed
right,
who
made
the
plan
or
who
was
the
one
that
did
the
the
actual
coordinating
of
it.
But
you
know
so
I
I
would
I'm
sorry.
M
J
Sir,
oh
yeah,
yes,
sir,
and
we
are
familiar
now
believe
me,
I've,
I'm
big
on
that,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we
we
follow
by.
We
follow
it,
sir,
and
be
careful
that
we're
going
to
move
a
branch
make
sure
we
follow
all
the
rules
in
the
ordinances
that
is,
that
is,
that
is
written.
M
C
All
right,
I
think,
we've
had
enough
input
from
the
commissioners
and
we
do
have
a
very
long
agenda.
We
need
to
move
on
and
I
want
to
thank
mr
gomez
for
your
presentation.
It
was
a
very
good
presentation,
very
good
and
I
think
you're
you're
right
about
the
master
plan
being
overdue.
C
G
Mr
chairman,
commissioner,
dominguez
only
commercial
to
school
and
send
it
to
city
council
all.
K
M
G
I'm
holding
on
the
on
the
recommendation
pending
whichever
one
this
recommendation,
which
are
yeah.
C
B
This
is
a
plan
for
the
parks
department
that
they
wanted
to
present
to
the
commission
as
a
as
a
you
know,
to
get
your
input
like
that
you've
just
given,
but
there
is
not
a
need
for
for
you
to
send
a
you
know.
It
doesn't
require
it
to
come.
B
Of
the
process
was
they
wanted
to
get
your
input.
Mr
chairman,
I.
G
Will
recall
my
motion
based
on
michelle
comment
and
I
think
initially
brought
back
to
us.
C
N
Good
evening,
commissioners,
can
you
all
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
okay,
great,
so
I'm
bringing
this
forward
at
the
request
of
the
council
member.
Basically
how
the
how
the
ordinance
reads
right
now:
it's
right
there!
It's
basically
it
says:
parkland
improvement
funds
to
argue
to
be
used
exclusively
for
the
acquisition,
development
or
improvement
of
parkland
full
stop.
N
We
have
a
request
from
a
council
member
who's
interested
in
putting
traffic
control
devices
in
the
streets
adjacent
to
parks,
because
of
I
think
he
mentioned
two
incidents
where
he's
had
some
sort
of
auto
pedestrian
accidents,
and
so
he
wanted
to
open
that
up
to
allow
for
for
traffic
control
devices
on
on
the
streets,
adjacent
to
parks
out
of
that
fund
and
in
reviewing
it
legally,
we
think
it
starts
to
kind
of
blur
the
line
between
a
parkland
dedication,
ordinance
and.
N
Fee
and
the
the
importance
of
that
is
that
parkland
dedication
ordinances
generally
receive
pretty
much
favorable
treatment
under
under
texas
law,
they're
pretty
well
established.
N
N
We
feel
that
it
maybe
starts
to
blur
the
line
where
our
parkland
ordinance
ends
and
an
impact
fee
begins,
and
so
we
think
it
might.
It
might
be
subject
to
a
legal
challenge
and
that
we
we
wouldn't
be
subject
to.
Otherwise,
if
we
just
left
it,
as
is.
C
C
I
looked
at
the
same
thing
you're
talking
about.
I
saw
this
as
an
impact
fee,
something
that
is
totally
against
the
way
this
hardness
is
written
and
this
particular
ordinance
should
not
be
changed
to
include
anything
else.
That
is
my
comment
and
I'm
willing
to
listen
to
comments
from
other
council.
Commission
members.
K
M
I
I
concur
as
well.
I
think
the
presentation
that
was
was
done
just
a
few
minutes
ago
basically
tells
you
that
there's
not
enough
funds
for
the
current
parkland,
that's
even
there
and
diverting
from
it
to
start
working
on
speed,
bumps
and
other
crazy
things.
I
I
don't
think
would
be
something
that
would
be
beneficial
to
the
community.
Overall,
that's
true.
G
And
being
said
that,
there's
not
going
to
be
any
changes,
I
think
we're
not
supposed
to
do
any.
C
Action
all
right.
Anybody
else
in
the
commission
want
any
comments
on
this.
C
Okay
with
nobody
else,
what
are
the
wishes
of
the
commission.
C
K
C
G
C
C
Thank
you.
The
next
item
that
we
have
is
public
hearings.
B
Yes,
sir,
the
applicant
is
gutierrez
rental
offices,
llc,
the
owner
applicant
and
linda
gutierrez,
a
representative.
You
read
the
address
and
you
noted
that
they
were
they're
requesting
a
zone
change
from
b1
to
b3,
which
is
our
community
business
district
zone.
The
proposed
uses
commercial
to
to
in
order
to
get
a
bigger
sign
is
what
they
told
us,
and
we
sent
out
15
letters
that
were
0
4
and
0
against.
This
is
the
general
area,
here's
an
here's,
an
aerial
map
showing
the
property
on
the
corner.
B
B
Staff
supports
the
proposed
zone
change
it's
in
conformance
with
the
future
land
use
map.
This
area
being
neighborhood
mixed
use.
B3
is
acceptable
in
the
neighborhood
makes
you.
The
uses
that
are
in
b3
are
are
acceptable
in
neighborhood.
Mixed
use
complies
with
all
the
standards
and
we
don't
think
it'll
have
an
adverse
impact,
even
if
they,
if
they
wanted
to,
if
the
reason
they
were
doing.
This
was
to
change
and
add
additional
uses.
I
C
C
C
B
Yes,
sir,
the
the
kirby
snyderman
here
planning
director
edward
foster,
is
the
applicant,
and
you
mentioned
the
property
address
and
that
they're
requesting
to
go
from
b3
to
b4,
which
is
highway
commercial.
This
is
our
most
intense
commercial
district.
The
proposed
use
is
a
diesel
mechanic
shop.
We
mailed
out
12
letters
to
surrounding
owners
within
close
proximity.
B
B
Staff
supports
the
frozone
change
in
this
case,
the
the
future
land
use
designation
of
neighborhood
mix
use
doesn't
support
the
b4,
the
most
intense
commercial,
however,
given
that
the
surroundings
have
b4
already
in
it,
and
that
this
is
a
pretty
intense
commercial
district
right
next
to
the
freeway,
we
feel
like
the
the
free,
the
that
this
use
is
compatible
with
the
location,
especially
in
proximity
to
i35
and
the
surrounding
uses.
C
C
Okay,
does
anybody
in
the
commission
have
any
questions
for
mr
foster.
G
One
of
the
concerns
that
I
have
to
sherman
is
that,
being
at
this
workshop,
it
might
might
create
a
lot
of
it
will
take
a
lot
of
space
for
a
different
shop.
G
Will
the
owner
be
able
to
provide
a
parking,
and
we
wouldn't
have
anything
to
show
us
where
the
the
shop
is
going
to
be
any
parking?
That
is
going
to
be
there
or
they're
going
to
be
invading
the
the
street
as
it
is?
We
have
a
lot
of
traffic
there
and
that's
my
contract.
Q
Yeah,
I
think,
maybe
to
help
alleviate
that
concern
somewhat
the
shops
going
to
be
located
there,
but
the
five
there's
a
5.5
acre
track
behind
it
that
I
don't
know
what
map
you're
looking
at
specifically,
but
on
my
packet,
you
can
look
at
like
page
30,
for
example,
and
it's
not
one
block
one
freeway
commercial
plaza.
Q
Q
I'm
going
to
say
us,
but
the
principles
that
own
that
property
on
this
hilltop
are
not
separate
entities
but
the
same
people.
Q
M
I
moved
to
close
the
public
hearing
and
and
propose
a
motion
to
approve.
C
C
B
Yes,
the
applicant
is
aaron
gonzalez,
who
is
also
the
owner
and
elia
gonzalez
who's
acting
as
a
representative,
the
change
request,
as
you
stated,
is
to
go
from
r1
to
r2,
which
is
a
slightly
higher
density,
residential
district,
but
still
relatively
low
density.
The
proposed
uses
a
four
plex
apartment
and
we
mailed
out
31
letters
to
adjacent
to
nearby
land
owners
and
we
received
zero.
Four
and
zero
against.
B
B
Here
is
the
current
zoning.
You
can
see
that
that
this
lot
is
on
a
block
that
is
all
r1,
but
it
is
adjacent
or
it's
across
the
street,
from
the
darker
yellow,
which
is
r2
zones,
and
it's
kitty
corner
from
an
r3
zone
which
is
a
higher
density,
residential
district
and
here's.
The
future
land
use
map
which
shows
this
block
is
low
density,
residential.
B
In
this
case,
staff
supports
the
proposed
zone
change,
while
the
the
way
that
we
currently
have
our
future
land
use
designations.
They
some
of
the
zones
are
in
multiple
land.
Use
are
multiple
future
land
use
categories
and
r2
is
one
of
those
that
it.
The
zone
of
r2,
allows
you
to
do
smaller
projects
and
also
more
dense
projects.
So
there's
a
range
there,
but
given
that
this
lot,
there
are
some
constraints
in
this
lot.
B
It's
this
zone
will
not
allow
them
to
do
a
large
multi-family
project,
they're
pretty
limited
on
what
they
can
do
and
given
the
surrounding
uses.
And
if
you
look
at
that
neighborhood,
there
are
a
lot
of
duplexes
and
and
multiple
unit
complexes
and
we
feel
like
that's
a
good
product
there
throughout
that
could
be
in
many
places
in
the
radio,
so
we're
supportive
of
the
project.
C
O
Yes,
so
the
property
is
3301
south
louisiana
and
we
proposed
that
the
zoning
change
from
an
r1
to
an
r2.
C
I
C
C
The
next
item
that
we
have
is
a
public
hearing
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
of
laredo
by
rezoning
a
track
of
land
containing
approximately
91.64
acres,
more
or
less
out
of
part
of
portion
38.
This
is
the
j
and
e
more
from
r1
residential
district
to
b1
and
b3
to
r1mh
all
right
kirby.
B
Yes,
sir,
the
applicant
here
is
norma
c
moore
owner
applicant
and
james
w
junior
compass
performance
services,
llc
who's,
acting
as
a
representative,
you
described
the
property,
the
91
acres
there
in
south
laredo.
B
Proposed
use
is
manufactured
housing
and
we
sent
90
letters
to
the
surrounding
neighbors.
We
receive
zero.
Four
and
zero
against
here
is
a
general
location.
South
daredevil
there
is
an
aerial
view
of
the
property
of
this
90
plus
acre
tract
here
is
a
street
view
showing
the
property
undeveloped.
Currently,
here
is
the
zoning
map.
You
can
see
the
commercial
on
the
west
side,
that's
near
highway
83,
and
then
you
can
see
the
rest
of
the
remaining
track,
the
80
acres,
or
so
that
is
residential,
that's
r1
and
here's.
B
B
This
92-acre
tract
is
adjacent
to
over
800
acres
and
about
5
000,
lots
of
manufactured
housing
development
and
the
there's
a
little
error
there.
But
I'll
share
the
data
we
fold
the
numbers
today
in
the
entire
city.
We
have
about
80,
000
housing
units
of
that
about
8
in
the
city
or
about
6
600
600
units
are
mobile
homes
or
manufactured
housing.
B
We've
heard
this
feedback
from
other
people
before,
as
we've
gone
on
the
community
to
mix
uses
and
not
to
concentrate
and
that's
why
we're
providing
this
recommendation
here
today.
So
the
proposed
motion
is
to
either
recommend
approval
or
denial
and
here's
the
number
for
the
public
to
call
in
when,
when
you
open
the
public
hearing-
and
we
have
the
applicant
on
the
line
when
you
have,
when
you're
ready
to
ask
them
questions.
C
Thank
you
kirby.
This
is
a
public
hearing
and
anybody
who
wishes
to
speak
for
against
this
zone
change
we're
willing
to
listen
as
a
planning
commission
go
ahead.
D
O
I'm
jay
put
with
compass
real
estate
investments,
I'm
here
with
orlando
nevado,
with
who's
also
with
compass,
real
estate
investments,
as
well
as
our
engineer,
jeff,
wake
civil
engineering
consultants.
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
to
be
available
to
answer
any
questions.
O
Nonetheless,
you
know
we're
looking
for
a
zone
change
to
r1mh,
which
is
a
mixed
use.
You
could
have
manufactured
homes,
obviously,
and
you
could
have
simultaneous
residential
there
in
the
same
community,
and
so
as
far
as
having
a
diverse
selection,
if
you
will
it's
there
also,
you
know
considering
the
location
of
the
track
of
land
where
we're
requesting
the
zone
change.
We
have
a
natural
buffer
of
salita
linda
on
highway
83.
O
What's
there
in
city
to
lindle,
with
mixed
commercial
and
single-family,
residential
and
schools,
and
so
on,
we
thought
it'd
be
a
perfect
fit
to
be
able
to
do
that
type
of
development.
There,
considering
you
know,
schools
or
in
walking
distance
parks
and
walking
distance
and
obviously,
as
everybody
knows,
the
need
for
housing
in
our
town
is
is
affordable.
Housing,
for
that
matter,
is
a
great
need,
so
we
didn't.
We
thought
that
it
was
a
a
reasonable
request
for
sure
considering
what
we
know
with
the
area
and
and
and
so
on.
O
So
that's
why
we're
requesting
the
the
the
request
for
the
zone
change-
and
you
know
it's.
You
know.
We
hope
that
you
all
look
favorable
on
this
situation.
It's
the
developer,
it's
the
condition
of
the
sale
of
the
property
to
be
able
to
get
this
so
change.
We
feel
that
it's
a
favorable
move
for
the
community,
for
the
area
and
for
folks
in
this
in
the
city
of
raiders,
especially
baroque,
who
want
to
stay
and
live
in
sacramento
in
district
one.
O
So
we
thank
you
for
that
consideration
and
open
any
questions
that
you
guys
might
have.
G
Come
here
dominguez,
I
represent
district
one
in
one
of
the
the
biggest
needs
for
the
community
that
I
represent
is
affordable
housing.
I
notice
on
the
on
the
comments
on
the
impact
analysis
under.
Is
this
change?
Contrary
to
established
land
use
pattern,
it
is
no
would
this
change
create
an
isolated
zoning
district
and
related
to
the
surrounding
district?
The
answer
is
no.
G
Now
I
feel
that
that
the
comments
from
kirby,
even
though
I
don't-
I
don't
really
like
him,
because
he
kind
of
discriminates
some
of
the
area
by
saying
that
that
having
a
mobile
home
park
creates
a
problem
either
for
the
owners
or
for
the
area,
the
owners
they
have,
the
the
right
to
live
whatever
they
can
afford
with
sherman,
and
I
think
that
we
should
allow
their
own
personal
right
to
to
buy
or
to
look
for
holding
spaces.
G
So
that
being
said,
if
no
one
else
has
a
comment,
I'm
ready
to
make
a
move.
I.
K
C
M
I
also
I
want
to
concur
with
some
of
the
comments
that
have
made
been
made.
I
am
not
a
fan
of
mobile
homes
because
I
think
it's
a
deception
for
people
to
invest
equity
in
mobile
homes,
but
I've
also
gone
through
the
area
and
many
of
the
mobile
home
developments
that
have
been
there
have
helped
people.
M
M
A
I
know
that
kirby
you're
against
the
the
proposal,
but
when
you
said
mixed
use
in
the
area,
mixed
use,
meaning
single
family,
home
multi-family
homes
and
even
mobile
homes.
Did
I
understand
you
correctly.
B
A
I
I
agree
with
you
and
I
also
disagree
the
initial
plan
in
theory,
I
think
works
right,
but
I
think
we
also
have
to
look
at
the
area
and
the
timing
if
we
allow
someone
to
do
mixed
use
here
at
this
point
in
time,
the
the
cost
of
lumber
double
so
to
make
a
single
family
home
you're,
looking
anywhere
north
of
a
thousand
square
feet
single
family
home,
a.
N
A
And
twenty
thousand
hundred
fifty
thousand
in
that
area,
the
people
that
are
buying
these
lots
because
they're
going
to
be
into
little
locks
and
you
bring
in
your
mobile
home,
you
can
either
rent
the
mobile
home
and
purchase
a
lot.
A
Their
price
range
of
a
home
is
under
a
hundred
thousand
someone
with
two
people
earning
twelve
dollars.
An
hour
can
afford
it.
Two
people
are
earning
twelve
12.
An
hour
cannot
afford
a
150
000
home.
A
A
So
I
I'm
ready
to
make
a
motion
once
you
close
the
public
hearing
all
right.
T
I
I
just
have
a
quick
comment
that
I
want
to
clear
up.
It's
real
short
I'll
go.
F
T
I
just
want
to
clear
over.
I
don't
agree
that
kirby's
comments
were
discriminative.
I
I
think
in
this
case
the
issue
is
the
comprehensive
plan
might
be
discriminative,
so
I
don't
agree
with
the
comprehensive
plan
in
this
case,
and-
and
I
just
want
to
make
set
that
record
clear-
that
I
don't
agree
that
it's
not
kirby's
comments.
It's
the
comprehensive
plan,
that's
not
in
tune
with
the
residents
of
south
laredo
that
do
need
this.
So
I
disagree
with
the
plan
and
I
agree
with
a
positive
emotion
whenever
we're
ready
thank.
B
Just
a
clarification:
this
is
not.
This
is
not
anything
derogatory,
the
housing
type.
As
I
said
in
in
the
presentation,
I
gave
it's
a
good
product
that
has
benefits.
It
also
has
challenges,
especially
when
you
concentrate
it.
So
this
is
not
to
say
we
don't
want
to
see
mobile
home
or
manufactured
housing
in
our
community.
We
do
it's
part
of
the
solution
for
a
range
of
housing
products,
especially
on
the
affordable
end.
B
However,
my
comment
specifically
deals
with
the
concentration
of
mobile
and
manufactured
housing
in
south
rada,
where
currently
65
percent
of
it
is
all
in
south
florida
and
adjacent.
You
have
many
lots
that
are,
you
know,
awaiting
development
of
of
manufacturing.
So
just
that
clarification,
this
is
a
good
product,
but
the
concentration
of
it
is
the
challenge
here.
C
C
I
don't
know
how
familiar
a
lot
of
you
guys
are
with
manufactured
housing,
but
manufactured
houses
can
be
restrict
of
its
wheelbase
and
set
on
the
ground
which
a
lot
of
it
is
being
done
and
when
you
put
manufactured
housing
on
the
ground,
the
product
is
a
hud-approved
product.
It
is
a
very
nice
looking
product,
but
the
big
thing
on
this
thing
is
right.
Now
it
is
very
affordable,
which
is
a
market
that
is
becoming
very,
very
difficult
for
the
average
family
to
be
able
to
get
into
housing.
C
It
is
a
big
challenge
that
we
have
not
only
here,
but
throughout
the
united
states,
the
cost
of
single-family
stick-built
housing
is
really
gone
up
like
I
would
just
mentioned
your
average
cost
of
housing
right
now
is
probably
going
to
be
from
a
starting
point
of
230
000
for
a
small
single
family
house
up
to
over
400
500
000,
depending
on
where
you
build
that
the
need
for
affordable
housing
is
great.
C
C
Unfortunately,
to
do
single-family,
stick-built
housing,
it
has
become
a
situation
where
the
average
working
family
who's,
an
hourly
employee,
where
both
family
members,
husband
and
wife,
are
working.
It
becomes
an
issue
where
they
cannot
afford.
This
is
an
alternative
that
will
allow
them
to
become
homeowners,
property
owners.
So
that's
what
they
wish
to
do.
Also,
I
think
we
need
to
take
another
thing
into
consideration
here.
Is
that
this
project,
as
it
develops,
could
be
a
mixture
not
only
of
manufactured
housing
but
of
some
site-built
housing?
C
There's
a
lot
of
people
who
you
know
would
prefer
to
live
in
certain
areas
where
they
grew
up,
and
so
they
may
also
be
willing
to
say
you
know
what
I
want
to
build
in
this
area
too.
Knowing
that
it'll
be
a
mixed
use,
type
situation.
That
is
my
comment.
This
is
still
a
public
hearing.
Do
we
have
anybody
else
who
wishes
to
speak
for
or
against
this
particular
zone?.
F
P
H
C
Thank
you,
but
nobody
else
on
the
line
wishing
to
speak.
What
are
the
wishes
of
the
commission.
K
C
Motion,
yes,
we
have
a
second
from
mr
dominique
dominguez
got
there
first,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
those
who
are
not
in
favor
of
the
motion
signify
by
saying
aye,
with
none
heard
the
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
that
we
have
is
the
amending
the
public
hearing
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
map
of
the
city
laredo
by
rezoning
lot,
4
d5
acres
subdivision
located
at
7071
highway
359
from
r1
to
r3.
B
Applicant
is
jose
castillo
and
legi
de
la
torre,
the
owner
applicants,
property
address
you
provided
the
zone.
Change
request
is
to
go
from
r1
to
r3
mixed
residential
district.
Our
higher
density
residential
district,
the
proposed
use,
is
manufactured,
housing
letter
sent
out
to
surrounding
property
owners
was
14
and
there
were
zero
four
and
zero
against.
B
L
B
B
However,
there
it
is
in
it
is
in
line
with
other
developments
in
the
area
and,
given
that
the
size
of
the
lot
constrains,
what
will
be
done
there?
It
will
allow
for
multi-family
development,
but
not
high
density
development,
and
we
don't
think
it
will
adversely
impact
them.
C
C
M
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment
because
I
noticed
it
indicates
in
here
in
the
history
that
this
was
done
through
an
annexation
in
2003.
M
M
And
were
all
brought
with
the
intention
of
creating
our
ones,
but
in
fact
bringing
him
in
all
his
are
ones
to
be
further
changed
at
some
point
in
time
when
the
use
was
going
to
be
determined
as
to
what
was
the
appropriate
use
of
all
these
properties.
So
I
I
it
may
be
a
a
misconception
that
somehow,
when
they
were
annexed
that
these
properties
were
all
intended
to
be
our
ones
and
they
weren't.
It
was
just
a
matter
of
convenience
of
dealing
with
the
properties
and
that's
why
they
were
brought
in
as
our
ones.
C
Okay,
sir,
do
we
have
a
second
second,
all
right,
mr
dominguez
seconds,
all
those
who
are
not
in
favor
of
the
motion
signify
by
saying
aye
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item,
public
hearing
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
of
laredo,
by
resorting
to
approximately
10.04
acres
out
of
2.98
acres
of
land,
can
pay
to
afw
investments,
ltd
located
west
of
u.s,
highway,
83
and
south
of
lomas
and
soon
boulevard
from
b3
to
r1a
all
right,
sir
kirby.
B
Yes,
the
applicant
is
premier
engineering.
The
zone
change
request
is
to
go
from
b3,
as
you
mentioned,
to
r1a
a
single
family,
reduced
area,
residential
district.
It's
a
single
family
zone,
that's
at
slightly
higher
density
than
our
r1
proposed
use
is
residential
27
letters
were
mailed
to
surrounding
neighbors.
We
received
zero
four
zero
against
this.
Is
the
general
area
map
just
off
of
highway
83
in
south
laredo.
B
Here's
an
aerial
view.
Now
you
might
recall
this
property.
It
came
in
before
as
a
master
plan
and
for
the
area.
Here's
a
street
view
showing
a
view
of
the
area.
That's
undeveloped,
and
here
is
the
zoning
map
showing
that
the
zoning
current
is
all
b3
and
then
they're
requesting
r1a,
and
here
is
the
future
land
use
map
showing
that
it
includes
both
high
density
residential
to
the
west
and
neighborhood
mixed
use
to
the
right
staff
supports
the
proposed
zone.
Change
it's
not
in
strict
compliance
with
the
future
land
use
map.
C
D
C
M
M
M
At
one
time
we
were
trying
to
get
a
donation
of
the
area
along
the
river
when
we
were
buying
property
along
the
river,
and
I
think
if
there
were
some
way
that
we
could
talk
to
the
owners
of
the
property
to
see
if
we
could
make
it
happen.
I
know
it's
not
germane
to
what
we're
currently
discussing,
but
it's
something
that
I
think
should
be
continued.
C
C
C
C
The
public
hearing
amending
the
zoning
ordinance
of
the
city
of
lorena
by
rezoning
lot,
eight
and
nine
block
470
history
and
division
located
at
316
and
318
east
bustamante
street
from
mar
3
to
b1.
Yes,
sir.
B
Yes,
the
applicant
is
just
11.,
it
was
also
the
owner.
You
read
the
property
description
and
location.
The
zone
change
is
from
an
r3
to
a
b1.
As
you
noted,
our
limited
business
district
proposed
houston
is
a
commercial
parking
lot.
We
mailed
out
13
letters
to
surrounding
neighbors
and
we
received
zero.
Four
and
zero
against
here
is
the
general
area
in
north
central
laredo.
B
Here
is
a
street
view,
showing
the
current
state
of
the
lots
here
is
a
view
of
the
property
to
the
rear.
So
behind
this
lot
behind
these
two
lots,
this
is
the
street
view,
but
what
was
recently
constructed
is
this
building,
which
inside
is
a
well
a
full
basketball
court
and
yeah
a
gym.
I
share
these
extra
photos
just
to
explain
in
a
second
what
their
reason
they're
requesting
this
they're
requesting
to
change
the
zoning
here
to
provide
a
parking
lot
for
this
structure.
B
So
they
want
to
use
these
two
lots
here
so
that
they
have
adequate
parking
for
the
structure
that
was
built
on
the
rear.
Two
lots.
So
here
is
a
map
showing
the
zoning
of
the
current
properties
in
question.
It's
r3,
and
here
is
a
map
of
the
future
land
use
showing
it's
high
designated
as
high
density.
B
Residential
staff
supports
the
zone
change,
while
the
proposed
use
isn't
in
strict
conformance
with
the
future
land
use
map
it
is
in,
it
will
work
with
the
land
uses
in
the
area
which
are
a
mix
of
commercial
residential,
and
we
feel
like
having
a
neighborhood,
you
know.
Being
able
to
facilitate
a
neighborhood
gym
is
something
positive
that
that
that
mixes
well
with
the
residential
in
the
area?
B
D
D
Thank
you,
mr
levin.
Okay,
mr
levin,
you
can
you're
on
the
line
with
the
commission.
Sir
okay
go
ahead.
Mr
levin.
S
Okay,
so
I
saw
that
there
that
they're
mentioning
the
parking
and
what
it's
going
to
be
used
for
so
we're
changing
it
from.
I
believe
it's
r1
to
v1.
G
All
right,
mr
sherman,
I'm
familiar
with
that
area
and
that
that
building
actually,
that
gym,
has
become
very,
very
necessary
for
the
community
right
now,
because
that
we
have
there
has
been
a
lot
of
other
quantum
members
that
actually
make
use
of
that.
One
of
the
reasons
is
that
that
building
was
not
in
compliance,
so
it
seems
that
the
tradition
is
bringing
us
before
us
the
parking
area
to
to
supply
enough
parking
area
and
be
in
compliance
with
all
the
codes.
G
Make
a
motion
to
approve
the
song
change,
mr
chairman,
let.
G
C
B
You
gave
us
the
property
address
and
description
and,
as
you
stated,
they're
requesting
to
go
from
b1
to
b3,
which
is
a
community
business
district.
The
post
use
is
commercial;
they
they
haven't,
specified
the
all
the
intended
uses,
but
that
they
want
more
options
for
their
future
tenants.
We
mailed
out
11
notices
to
surrounding
neighbors.
We
received
zero
letters
in
support
and
zero
against
there's
a
general
area
map.
B
Here's,
the
future
land
use
map
designating
this
area's
neighborhood
mixed
use.
Staff
supports
the
zone
change
it's
in
conformance
with
the
future.
Land
use
designation,
complies
with
all
the
requirements
or
commercial
lots
of
this
zone
and
we
think
it'll
fit
in
with
the
virtual
nature
of
of
the
surrounding
area.
C
C
P
C
I
Okay,
my
name
is
linda
gutierrez
for
the
record.
I
am
the
owner
of
this
property.
I
I
I
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
opportunity
to
talk
to
you
and
I
I'll
wait
for
your
response
and
respectfully.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
H
C
In
agreement
with
emotion
signify
by
saying,
aye
motion
carries
thank
you.
Next
item
review
and
consideration
of
the
following
master
plan:
reviewing
consideration
and
reconsideration
of
the
north
laredo
industrial
master
plan,
the
antennas,
industrial,
all
right.
D
Overview,
the
app
for
the
record,
the
applicant
is
north
florida
industrial
park
limited
the
engineer,
recognized
howland
engineering
and
surveying
approximately
520
acres
located
north
of
beltway,
parkway
and
west
of
ih35.
The
zoning
is
m1
proposed
use
industrial,
the
proposed
number
of
watts
is
37.
O
O
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity,
mr
chairman.
Commissioners,
we
concur
staff
comments.
I
do
have
a
comment
just
for
the
record
utilities
comment
number
three
that
states
that
the
developer
would
be
providing
a
feasibility
study
for
the
development.
O
I
did
speak
with
the
utilities
director
arturo
garcia
and
we
did
clarify
this
comment
in
that
my
client
had
previously
participated
with
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollar.
I
guess
not
a
donation
but
150
thousand
dollar
country
to
this
water
feasibility
study,
as
well
as
the
booster
pump.
So
the
city
is
actually
going
to
go
to
rfq
to
hire
another
engineer
to
do
this
study
and
bring
the
booster
station
back
online.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
comment
for
the
record,
but
all
other
comments.
O
We
do
concur
with
them
and
we
are
looking
forward
to
submitting
for
one-stop
shop.
I'm
glad
to
answer.
O
No,
no
sir,
this
is
actually
in
the
roofinger
property
I-35,
just
north
of
the
atar
ranch.
M
E
E
E
G
M
Thank
you.
The
access
to
the
park
is
going
to
be
through
the
proposed
ruth
and
parkway,
or
what.
O
Yes,
sir,
it's
right
now
ruthinger!
Well,
there's
it
could
get
a
little
confusing.
There's
a
there's,
a
ruthinger
road
with
up
to
65
back
to
back
five
lane
road,
two
lanes
going
each
way
in
the
center
lane.
It
is
already
connected
to
the
I-35
frontage
road
right
where
the
old
border
patrol
checkpoint
is
and
the
parking
lot
that's
already
constructed.
O
We're
gonna
extend
that
about
another,
I
would
say
1500
to
2000
feet,
so
we're
going
to
have
access
off
of
I-35
as
well
as
access
off
the
mercury
drive
that
leads
to
beltway
parkway,
which
leads
to
the
intersection
of
I-35
and
beltway
parkway.
Now,
after
this
phase
we're
pretty
close
to
connecting
this
ruthenger
road
to
the
big
achar
parkway
that
is
currently
being
planned
and
hopefully
goes
under
construction
soon,.
M
C
Second
by
commissioner
lavalina,
all
those
who
are
not
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
approve
signify
by
saying
aye
thank
you
motion
carries
next
item
review
and
reconsideration
of
bella
then
subdivision
master
plan.
The
intent
is
commercial
and
residential.
The
purpose
of
this
revision
is
to
reconfigure
unit
17
and
unit
18..
Yes,.
D
Yes,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
and
the
overview
the
applicant
is
mimosa
ii.
The
engineer
of
record
is
boras
nance,
approximately
583
acres
located
south
of
pita
magana
and
west
of
u.s,
highway,
83,
south
and
northwest
city
boulevard.
The
zoning
for
this
development
is
r1mh,
r3,
b1
and
v3.
The
proposed
use
is
residential
and
commercial,
and
the
total
number
of
lots
of
proposal
relaunch,
is
2446
general
location,
aerial
view.
D
Comments
from
water
utilities
and
parks,
and
just
for
the
record,
you
will
see
that
item
number
three
from
parks
has
been
scratched
out
earlier.
Today
we
did
receive
correspondence
from
the
parks
department
to
have
that
item
removed
from
the
from
the
commission's
consideration.
P
All
right,
mr
chief,
hello,
mr
chairman,
this
is
wayne.
We
agree
with
all
the
comments
in
light
of
parks
and
rec
free
being
stricken,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
on
this
project.
C
All
right
with
nobody
having
any
questions.
What
are
the
wishes
of
the
commission.
C
D
Ralph
for
the
record
applicant
als
laredo
holdings,
engineer
of
record
surfing
engineering,
approximately
205
acres,
located
east
of
ajido
west
of
cuatro
bientos
in
south
of
wormser,
the
zonings
are
r1a
r1b,
r2,
b1
and
v3.
The
proposed
uses
both
commercial
residential
and
the
proposed
number
of
lots
is
911.,
general
location.
L
All
right
good
evening,
mr
chairman
members
of
the
commission,
frankenstein
with
sheriff
engineering,
we
concur
with
staff
comments.
C
C
All
right
and
the
second
by
dominguez
chicken,
all
right
all
those
who
are
not
in
favor
of
the
motion
signify
by
saying
hi
and
unheard
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
review
and
reconsideration
of
the
killum
industrial
master
plan,
the
intent
is
industrial.
The
purpose
of
this
revision
is
to
reconfigure
faces
and
realign
streets
all
right.
B
D
The
recommendation
from
the
commission
in
the
past
with
this
item
was
tabled
and
had
requested
that
the
director
of
traffic,
as
well
as
the
engineer
record,
coordinate
and
to
evaluate
possible
solutions
to
the
traffic
issues
there
in
the
area
and
reach
a
compromise.
So
no
compromise
has
been
reached
at
this
point.
So
staff
is
recommending
denial
on
this
item.
D
L
O
Go
ahead
yes,
good
evening,
mr
chairman
and
commissioners,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
hugo
seco
tech
engineer.
I
also
have
with
me
on
the
line
renee
vellondo,
which
is
our
traffic
engineer
and
dr
roland
ortiz,
which
is
the
is
the
silhouette
of
state
development
manager.
O
We
do
not
agree
with
the
denial.
We
are
okay,
with
the
with
the
comments
with
the
rest
of
the
comments
on
the
on
the
from
staff,
except
for
the
comments
from
the
traffic
department.
We
have
been
trying
to
recover
with
the
traffic
department,
but
we
don't
seem
to
be
on
the
same
page
but,
like
I
said
I
have
mr
renee
rondo
and
dr
rolando
peace
for
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
L
C
U
Good
evening
daniel
mcgee
here,
can
you
guys
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
okay,
mr
chairman,
thank
you.
First
of
all,
I'm
a
little
confused
as
to
how
the
master
plan
is
being
asked
to
be
approved
from
what
I
saw
in
the
title.
It's
all
1200
acres.
We
do
not
look
at
at
all
1200
acres.
We
looked
at
a
very
small
portion
of
that.
We
looked
at
an
area.
I
think
it's
not
more
than
40
acres.
U
So
to
ask
you
to
approve
the
1200
acres
is
we
did
not
even
look
at
that?
The
commission
wanted
a
traffic
impact
analysis
done
for
the
whole
thing
in
an
effort
to
help
the
kiln
development.
We
looked
at
a
small
piece
of
it
connecting
to
enter
america
and
that's
all
we
looked
at
so
the
title
is
misleading
or
I'm
confused,
I'm
not
sure
which
is
which.
U
U
Okay
now,
if
we
can
just
focus
on
that,
one
piece,
then,
is
a
traffic
impact.
Analysis
is
supposed
to
tell
you
where
you're
at
right
now
with
the
traffic,
where
you
will
be
in
the
future,
without
the
traffic
developed
by
the
development
and
and
the
developments
traffic,
and
then
it's
supposed
to
make
some
suggestions
as
to
what
you're
going
to
mitigate
that
the
that
was
not
done
with
this
traffic
impact
analysis.
B
So
I
I
mean
I'll
just
clarify
just
a
little
bit
by
recommending
by,
if
you
choose
to
deny
this
plat,
that
doesn't
mean
this
project
doesn't
happen.
It
means
that
you
have
your
just
put
a
little
more
teeth
into.
You
need
to
bring
back
solutions.
You
had
you
had
given
us
the
direction
previously.
B
B
I
recommend
by
by
saying
denying
this
plaque
you're
telling
that
with
this
master
plan,
and
then
the
plaque
which
will
follow,
which
is
that
piece
you're
talking
about
by
doing
that,
then
you
say:
well,
they
can't
what
they're
bringing
forward
here
without
any
solutions,
that's
not
going
to
work.
They
do
have
to
bring
back
some
solutions.
If
they're
going
to
have
this
much
of
an
impact
on
the
online
road.
C
C
C
I
would
venture
to
say
that,
obviously,
if
we
were
on
a
4
7
period,
I
mean
that
would
kind
of
you
know
be
some
kind
of
a
relief.
But
we're
not
you
know
the
important
sport
business.
Pretty
much
doesn't
work
all
night
long
either,
but
I
guess
the
question
I
have
for
you
guys.
Not
only
you,
but
also
dan
is
we've
known
for
some
time
quite
some
time
that
the
mines
road
is
it's
been
over
capacity.
C
We've
got
to
be
able
to
stay
competitive
because
if
we
don't
stay
competitive
in
what
we're
doing
we're
going
to
end
up
losing
some
of
our
inland
traffic
to
other
ports,
so
I
know
there's
been
talk
about
different
things.
There's
talk
about
the
viaceo
road
as
a
potential
way
out,
there's
a
ruth
injure,
a
child
road
that
is
coming
up
further
up,
but
yet
we've
talked
and-
and
this
is
even
before
your
time-
kirby
and
dan
larry
will
remember.
C
C
C
As
we've
seen
in
a
lot
of
the
different
master
plans,
a
lot
of
the
master
plans
are
in
that
quadrant
of
the
city
and
they're
in
that
quadrant,
specifically
because
of
the
world
trade
bridge,
which
makes
a
lot
of
sense
in
the
past.
We
had
things
scattered
all
over
the
city
of
laredo,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
were
not
here,
but
larry
will
remember
this
when
we
had
all
those
trailers
on
35
stacking
up,
you
know
for
miles,
and
so
will
dan.
C
We
were
able
to
remove
that
by
getting
the
world
trade
bridge
on
that
other
side.
But,
like
I
said
we,
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
figuring
out.
How
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
allow
growth
in
that
whole
quadrant,
given
that
they're
going
to
the
same
place,
they're
going
to
be
crossing
the
world
trade
bridge?
C
And
that
is
really
the
key
thing
here
that
we
got
to
really
focus
on.
We
have
a
developer
here:
who's
ready
to
move
on
on
his
development,
but
now
we're
telling
him
and-
and
then
this
is
no
criticism
to
anyone.
It's
just
my
comment
guys.
You
know
we
really
need
to
figure
out
how
we
can
get
you
on
the
mind
road.
C
I
I
think
we
really
need
to
figure
out
the
solution
to
everything
here,
because
the
other
thing
we
have
to
be
cognizant
of
this
fact
is
that
we
don't
want
to
continue
sending
out
the
wrong
message
to
the
development
community.
That
is
not
only
the
community
but
outside
the
community
about
how
difficult
it
is
to
come
into
the
radar
and
try
to
get
something
accomplished.
C
But,
like
I
said
to
me,
we
need
to
look
at
the
a
solution.
I
know
we've
been
talking
about
solutions
for
quite
quite
some
time,
but
yet
nothing
has
been
done
in
terms
of
different
modes
of
roads
to
get
traffic
out.
So
that's
my
comment
to
to
everyone.
O
Thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
me
to
speak
tonight.
Commissioners
dan
mentioned
the
master
plan.
This
master
plan
has
been
in
place
since
2003
viaceo
was
the
connection
in
inner
america.
O
We
have
had
an
opportunity
to
go
ahead
and
plant
some
of
this
property,
so
we
took
it
upon
ourselves
to
go
in
and
make
the
move
and
not
wait
for
the
rma
to
do
it
later.
So
that's
what
we've
done
is
we've
moved
by
the
field
to
mueller
boulevard
to
allow
when
that
roadway
gets
built.
That
will
allow
those
residents
to
never
even
step
foot
on
mine's
road
they'll
be
able
to
go
straight
to
I-35,
and
we
thought
that
was
a
good
suggestion.
So
that's
why
we
did
it.
O
The
second
thing
mentioned
was
the
pia.
The
current
city
ordinance
doesn't
require
us
to
prepare
a
tia
x
dot
in
their
comments
which
we
had
agreed
to
said.
You
all
need
to
work
with
us
and
get
a
tia
done,
and
so
we
have
agreed
to
do
that,
but
it
wasn't
for
the
master
plan.
It
was
for
our
next
item
on
here,
which
is
the
unit
27
preliminary
plaque.
O
O
So
they
asked
us
to
look
at
a
highest
engineering
report
that
was
provided
to
us
by
the
city
and
by
ted
scott,
and
so
we
looked
at
it
and,
mr
not
as
long
ago,
our
traffic
engineer
prepared
a
second
tia
and
we
also
used
the
southeast
corner
as
a
convenience
store
to
make
the
intersection
look
even
worse.
So
and
I'm
not
going
to
talk
to
mr
azonba,
if
you
want
to
listen
to
his
analysis,
but
the
level
of
services
don't
vary
too
much
from
the
ifa.
O
Is
engineering
report
to
the
report
from
the
trader
london,
and
so
it
is
very
cumbersome
for
us
to
have
to
go
back
to
something
that
hey.
I
don't
think
the
city
has
a
right
to
do
by
ordinance,
because
we
I
call
it
we
were
like
in
plat
purgatory,
because
we
actually
have
to
come
back
three
times
and
I'm
sure,
as
you
all
know,
once
an
application
is
submitted,
it
needs
to
be.
It
needs
to
be
acted
on
in
30
days
and
it's
been
five
or
six
months
now.
O
So
with
that
said,
if
you'd
like
to
hear
a
presentation
or
some
information
from
our
traffic
engineer
I'll
go
ahead
and
hand
it
over
to
him,
but
it's
difficult,
because
we
can't
share
our
screens,
which
I
mean
it's
very
difficult
for
us
to
kind
of
fight
the
case.
The
last
thing
I
would
want
to
add
is
as
we're
extending
inner
america
to
the
east,
we're
gonna
hit
north
lamar
and
kirby.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
the
master
plan.
O
O
Just
looking
at
the
situation,
that's
not
a
very
good
map
of
the
master
plan,
but
anyway,
so
with
that
said,
if
you
all
would
like
to
speak
to
mr
alex
he's
like
on
a
third-party
call
with
me
and
mr
sacca,
so
it
might
be
some
way.
I
hope
you
can
hear
me,
mr
chairman,.
C
Yes,
we
can
and
yeah
yes,
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
to
have
mr
radundo
make
a
presentation.
O
Yes,
sir
good
union
commissioners
and
mr
chairman
again,
my
name
is
I'm
a
traffic
engineer
with
ac
group
in
san
antonio
and
I
was
asked
to
evaluate
and
to
look
at
this
development
degree
tia,
which
is
requested
by
the
city
and,
more
specifically,
by
text.,
and
it
was
specifically
to
look
at
the
operations
or
the
resulting
operations
at
the
intersection
of
mines,
road
and
indoor
america.
O
As
a
result
of
this
development
of
the
kilim
industrial
unit,
27
with
even
a
convenience
store
on
the
southeast
corner,
but
it
was
not
an
intent
to
I
I
guess,
to
mitigate
anything
as
more
an
information
type
report
to
understand
the
the
future
operations.
O
The
yeah
was
prepared
using
the
city
of
laredo
traffic
models.
There
were
models
that
were
developed
about
a
year
ago
for
a
corridor
re-timing
study
and
we
used
those
same
models
for
pre-covert
traffic
data
and
all
the
intersection
geometric
has
studied
before
in
the
in
the
re-timing
study.
O
So
we
felt
we
had
a
really
good
model
to
go
in
and
and
evaluate
what
we
did
find
is,
as
mr
pisa,
our
doctoral
thesis
was
mentioning
is
we
did
make
some
comparisons
to
a
study
that
was
conducted
for
the
cortex
dot
along
the
mines,
road
corridor,
that
evaluated
those
intersections
as
well,
and
that
was
the
fm
1472
alternative
intersection
feasibility
analysis
and
what
we
found
in
their
in
their
analysis
and
powers
is
that
in
the
study
we
looked
at
the
morning,
the
am
and
the
evening
pm
peak
periods
and
we
found
very
similar
results.
O
While
the
I
completely
agree
with
mr
mcgee
there
are.
There
are,
I
guess,
areas
of
congestion
and
high
delay,
but
for
the
most
part
the
retiming
study
did
its
job
and
there
is
progression
along
the
northbound
and
southbound
approaches
to
mines
road.
O
So
the
bad
levels
of
service
are
on
the
cross
street
and
on
the
the
left
turns
so
overall
by
by
looking
at
the
intersection
as
a
whole,
we
can
see
levels
of
service
b
and
d,
which
are
acceptable
during
peak
periods,
but
the
cross
streets
will
suffer
a
little
bit,
but
that
is
part
of
the
the
timing
and
how
we,
how
we
work
traffic
signals
for
coordination
and
progression.
O
I
think
the
one
thing
I
would
like
to
point
out
is
is
really
the
planning
benefits.
I
mean
this
is
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
and
we
need
to
focus
on
the
planning
and,
like
dr
ortiz
mentioned,
there
is
a
large
benefit
to
the
additional
or
the
benefits
of
circulation.
O
And
we
do
provide
additional
connection
or
connectivity
to
lamar,
which
will
future
provide
connectivity
to
myasia
to
the
north
and
kill
him
industrial
to
the
south.
So
that's
a
huge
benefit.
It
improves
the
circulation
there,
but
in
and
more
so
as
a
result
of
that,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
relieve
some
of
that.
Mind
grow
traffic
because
we
can
bypass
mines
road
by
by
now
utilizing
some
of
our
east
west
connector,
our
connections
like
inner
america
to
to
lamar
and
via
the
larger
arterials.
O
So
basically,
let's
just
keep
this
short.
I
don't
disagree
with
mr
mcgee.
There
are
poor
levels
of
service
on
some
of
those
approaches
and
yes,
there
is
congestion,
it
is
mine's
road,
but
our
our
work
is
to
to
continue
with
development
and
mitigate
as
we
go
along
and
part
of
that
is
is
working
with
the
signals
and
what
we
have
to
do
to
work
out
there.
So
I
I
guess
with
that,
I
will
leave
it
open
for
any
questions
that
any
commissioner
may
have.
K
K
This
master
plan
was
approved,
like
it
was
mentioned
earlier
about
15
years
ago,
and
when
you
get
the
master
plans
at
their
initial
stages
and
even
at
final,
it
hasn't
been
put
into
place,
and
once
we
see
how
that
master
plan
comes
into
action,
we
see
the
effects
of
that
master
plan,
and
this
one
has
created
a
lot
of
congestion
and
when
you
open
the
door
by
wanting
to
modify
the
master
plan.
Although
I
do
agree
that
some
of
it
was
caused
by
the
city
and
maybe
the
city
itself
should
help
foot
the
bill.
K
K
But
once
you
want
to
change
a
master
plan
that
the
traffic
studies
they
just
don't
work
and-
and-
and
I
do
agree
with
commissioner
villarreal-
that
we
are
chairman
via
real-
that
we
need
to
be
amenable
to
transportation,
but
we
can't
just
throw
our
hands
up
in
the
air
and
just
say
well
because
it's
a
transportation
plan.
You
know
what
we'll
give
everyone,
so
we
all
have
to
do
something
better.
K
K
B
C
All
right,
let
me
recognize,
commissioner
dominguez
first.
G
Thank
you,
mr
sherman.
I
agree
with
joy
days
all
these
comments,
but
I
have
what
I
consider
a
very
good
comment,
one
of
the
when
we
want
something
to
be
done.
We
need
to
put
pressure
and
I
believe
that
tech
salt
has
been
lagging
because
we
have
not
put
enough
pressure
on
the
on
the
pixel
to
help
and
create
more
infrastructure
for
that
area.
I
I
strongly
believe
that
that
we
should
approve
this
master
plan.
G
There
is
the
reconsideration
of
the
master
plan.
Not
just
caleb
is
one
of
the
of
the
biggest
employers
of
this
area
are
also
that
particular
industrial
park
will
create
employment
and
will
create
money
in
the
form
of
taxes
for
our
city.
G
That
being
said,
if
we
deny
it,
then
we're
gonna
have
to
deny
all
the
the
permits
and
all
the
the
the
master
plans
or
development
in
that
area,
which
otherwise
wouldn't
be
fair.
G
I
mean
we
know
that
that
mindful
it's
it's
a
mess
at
one
time
or
another,
but
the
only
way
we
can
get
things
done
is
by
applying
pressure
and
and
creating
preheating
the
the
infrastructure
not
placing
the
border
on
the
on
the
developer,
but
but
actually
putting
pressure
on
himself
and
and
the
city
of
radio
will
come
with
answers.
G
Mr
chairman,
because
sir,
the
answer
is
not
to
deny,
but
the
answer
is
to
approve
and
and
continue
with
the
development,
I'm
ready
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
consideration
of
the
current
industrial
park.
Mr
chairman,
because
I
think
that's
the
right
thing
to
do
at
this
time.
E
E
E
C
M
C
M
C
M
C
To
continue
to
be
a
problem
sure
I
I
don't
believe
in
denying
the
plan,
unless
you
include
a
moratorium
for
every
plant
in
this
area,
you
just
approved
the
huge
development
pinnacle
which
is
further
down
the
road,
which
also
is
going
to
be
shooting
things
down
here,
and
I
guess
nobody
was
concerned
about
that
because
it
was
so
far.
M
Away,
I
I
you
know
you're
gonna
play
with
a
level
playing.
C
C
Where
is
the
impetus
there
to
push
these
projects
forward
and
we
now
have
a
a
session
of
the
legislature
that
is
coming
on
board
pretty
soon,
and
I
would
think
that
everybody
in
this
city,
at
least
in
in
positions
of
leadership,
should
be
visiting
the
capitol
every
week
to
try
to
get
texting,
to
commit
some
more
money
to
do
these
roads,
not
in
2023
or
2024,
but
tomorrow,
to
start
the
designs
to
put
the
designs
on
the
shelves.
G
C
We
have
a
motion,
we
have
a
second
all
those
who
are
not
in
favor
of
the
motion
signify
by
saying
aye
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
The
next
item,
consideration
of
the
following
preliminary
plants
and
preliminary
replats
item,
a
preliminary
consideration
of
the
flight
of
kilim
industrial
park
unit
27,
the
antennas
industrial.
D
Mr
chairman,
the
overview
applicant
is
killing
development
limited.
Yes,.
B
I
think
in
the
interest
of
time
it's
it's
sufficient
to
just
say
that
this
is
the
one
phase
of
the
master
plan
that
you
just
approved.
That's
correct,.
C
So
I
think,
do
we
have
a
motion?
I'm
ready
all
right.
C
C
D
Drop
clock
next
lecture
overview.
North
florida
industrial
park
limited
the
engineer
of
record
howling
engineering,
approximately
380
acres
located
north
of
beltway
parkway.
The
zoning
is
m1,
the
proposed
use
of
industrial,
the
proposed
number
of
lost,
24.,
general
location,
aerial
view
street
view.
O
There
is
just
one
comment
by
utility
comment:
number
four,
no
sewer,
easement
and
private
property.
I
know
in
parentheses
it
says:
if
it's
possible,
we
actually
are
designing
a
lift
station
that
will
be
going
under
I-35.
That's
gonna
lead
to
the
north
florida
treatment
plan
or
the
unitec
treatment
plan.
I'm
sorry!
That's
across
the
highway
utilities
have
given
us
that
directive
to
go
that
route
because
they
are
upgrading
that
that
treatment
plant.
So
it
now
has
capacity
for
this
area
for
us
to
do
that.
O
On
the
east
side
of
the
highway
we
have
to
provide,
we
have
to
put
an
easement
on
the
root
center
property
on
the
east
side
of
the
highway,
so
that
common
number,
four,
no
sewer,
easement
private
property.
I
just
want
to
make
it
put
it
on
record
that
that
easement
will
be
on
private
property.
However,
it
was
an
easement
dedicated
to
the
city
of
laredo.
C
D
The
applicant
has
is
mimosa
ii,
engineer
of
record
for
advanced
engineering,
approximately
15.8
acres,
located
east
of
highway,
83
and
south
of
sierra
vista.
The
zoning,
the
current
zoning
is
r3
and
r1mh
the
proposed
user
residential.
The
proposed
number
of
lots
is
92,
general
location,
aerial
view
street
view
and
proposed
plan
comments
from
planning,
engineering
and
water
utilities,
traffic
safety,
utility
coordination
and
the
proposed
motion.
C
R
A
C
D
I
Yes,
mr
chairman,
mr
estrada
is
on
the
line
all
right.
L
Mr
chairman,
frank
stella
with
surefy
engineering,
and
we
concur
with
staff
comments.
C
C
C
L
C
D
The
applicant
is
tdb
holdings,
limited
tile
engineering
and
surveying
is
your
record
approximately
32.8
acres
located
south
of
san,
diego
parkway
and
west
of
springfield.
The
zoning
for
this
development
is
r1b.
The
proposed
use
is
residential,
proposed
number
of
lots
is
68
and
just
for
history
we
did.
This
item
did
receive
final
approval
back
on
july,
2nd
general
location,
aerial
view
street
view.
D
D
B
Robert
allow
me
the
the
recommendation
here
is
denial.
The
staff
does
not
support
the
request
for
the
variance
without
the
variance
the
way
that
they've
submitted
they'd
have
to
go
back
and
resubmit.
Now.
The
reason
that
we're
recommending
denial
for
this
variance
is
because
it
doesn't
meet
the
requirements
for
what
a
variance
is
the
city
council
makes
the
rules
and
the
state
the
state
of
texas
requires
that
when
you,
when
you
do
a
zoning
ordinance
or
when
you
change
the
zone,
that
the
public
gets
to
make
that
gets
to
provide
input.
B
B
What
the
applicant
is
asking
for
is
for
you
to
change
the
rules
on
all
the
lots
in
this
development
to
give
them
a
10-foot
setback
instead
of
a
20-foot
setback.
Now
I
want
to
be
very
clear:
you
don't
have
to
commissioners,
you
don't
have
to
tell
me
about
how
great
this
will
be.
We
don't
need
20-foot
setbacks.
10-Foot
setbacks
are
great,
and
this
will
be
a
great
product
because
I'll
already
concede
that
already
say
those
are
good
things.
B
Yeah
we're
looking
at
reducing
setbacks
through
a
process
through
changing
the
rules
with
recode,
what
we're
doing
we're
getting
public
input
on
that
work.
I
myself
live
in
a
home
where
we
have
zero
setbacks,
so
this
isn't
an
argument
about
whether
or
not
what
they're
doing
is
good.
This
is
a
very
important
argument
about
whether
or
not
this
is
the
proper
way
to
do
it.
B
They
could
have
sought
a
zone
change
for
a
pud.
We
have
a
public,
a
planned
urban
development
zone
that
would
allow
them
to
go
to
actually
five
foot
setbacks,
but,
and
that
would
be
the
proper
way
of
doing
it,
because
when
you
change
the
rules,
we've
got
to
notice
the
neighbors.
If
you
recall,
when
we
did
the
original
zone
change
to
r1b,
we
had
a
lot
of
public
input.
B
There
were
a
lot
of
people
in
that
neighborhood
that
came
out
to
speak
some
for
most
against
and
ultimately
the
planning
commission
recommended
approval
and
the
city
council
approved
it.
But
the
state
requires
that
when
you
change
the
rules,
you
let
there
be
a
public
process
against
the
city
council
that
makes
that
decision.
The
planning
commission
is
an
administrative
body
where
you
examine
whether
or
not
the
rules
apply,
and
in
some
cases,
when
the
rules
have
created
a
circumstance
where
you
basically
strip
someone
of
develop
the
ability
to
develop
a
property,
a
piece
of
property.
B
You
can
grant
an
exception,
because
the
rules
didn't
anticipate
everything.
You
know
a
good
example
of
when
a
variant
should
be
granted
is
sometimes
there
are
regular
shaped
lots
that,
for
whatever
reason,
historically
or
how
a
piece
of
property
is
divided
up
because
of
slope
or
something
it's
left
in
such
shape,
that
if
you
apply
the
setbacks
to
it,
your
you
have
a
developable
area.
B
That's
so
small
just
doesn't
work
or
you
have
to
build
a
home,
that's
triangular
or
weird,
and
so
in
those
cases
a
variance
would
be
justified
because
you're
saying
hey
the
rules
in
this
case,
don't
apply
well,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
ignore
the
setbacks
or,
let's
reduce
the
setbacks.
That
would
be
a
good
reason
and
we
would
support
a
variance
in
that
case.
B
B
Well,
if
you
don't,
the
applicant
can
still
seek
a
pud
zone
change,
which
is
the
proper
way
and
they
they
could,
and
we
would
support
that
and
it
would
go
it
would
you
would
see
it
again
and
it
would
go
to
city
council
and
staff
would
support
it.
If
you
decide
you
want
to
grant
the
variance.
You
do
need
a
two-thirds
majority
in
this
case,
because
there
are
eight
of
them
here.
You
would
need
six
instead
of
just
the
five
to
approve.
So
the
decision
is
yours.
B
K
B
It's
the
is,
this
is
not
the
same.
This
is
not
the
same
they're,
not
developing
those
lots
near
where
there
was
that
issue,
but
it
is
the
same
master
plan
that
was
affected
by
that
yes,
okay,
but
these
lots
aren't
affected
by
that
decrease.
You
know
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
with
these,
with
the
proposed
development
the
way
they're
seeking
to
do
it.
B
If
you
can
see
here,
the
development
here
isn't
adjacent
to
the
freeway
they're,
proposing
right
now,
just
to
plot
these
lots
that
are
in
the
south
east
corner,
which
is
not
adjacent
to
the
freeway
and
not
affected
by
that.
But
the
way
that
worked
out,
I'm
sure
the
apple
can
tell
you
worked
out.
Definitely
in
favor
of
the
of
the
property
owner.
C
Kirby,
the
pd,
can
you
explain
a
little
bit
about
pud?
It's
a.
Is
it
a
yeah?
It's
it's
a
private
unit
development.
Is
that
correct?
It's.
B
B
We
just
want
to
vary
the
setbacks
a
little
and
we
would
look
at
the
design
and
as
they
brought
it
forward,
it's
not
a
problem,
and
so
we
would
support
it,
and
you
know
they
would
just
go
through
the
proper
process
of
changing
the
rules
rather
than
trying
to
be
exceptional.
A
A
B
A
B
Adjustments,
no
a
board
of
adjustment
is
there
for,
when
a
point
of
typically
dealing
with
the
building,
permit
and
building
department,
you
know,
like
somebody's,
been
dealing
with
a
building
permit
or
they've,
been
through
a
stop
work
order
or
some
issue
there.
They're
coming
in
here
with
the
plating
and
the
le
the
subdivision
ordinance
allows
the
the
allows
the
planning
commission
to
hear
exceptions
before
it
even
gets
to
the
building
phase.
You
know
typically,
because
there's
a
regular
shaped
lot
or
something
that
is
the
typical
example.
A
A
That's
right:
I
see
it
now.
Okay,
go
ahead.
Okay,
I'm
not
sure
if
a
pud
would
have
would
have
fixed
their
problem,
then
these
are
I'm
assuming
that
they're
custom
homes
and
they
don't
sell
until
they
have
a
buyer.
So
why
would
you
do
a
pod.
B
Would
definitely
work
and
it
actually
would
allow
them
go
to
five
foot
step
backs
if
they
need
to
increase
their
buildable
area
even
more.
B
C
Kirby,
I
did
see
the
letter
that
they
send
in
where
they're
they're
trying
to
do
garden
homes.
We
don't
have
a
zone
currently
for
garden
homes
right.
Yes,
sir,
the
people
zone.
C
B
You
come
to
the
planning
commission
for
a
recommendation
and
then
you
go
to
the
city
council
for
a
first
and
second
hearing
and
the
planning
commission
meeting
is
noticed
as
a
public
hearing
larry,
that's
the
practice
required
by
the
state
of
texas,
not
us.
I
understand.
C
C
All
right
do
we
do
have
the
engineer
of
record
on.
O
All
right,
mr
chairman,
ricardo
via
engineering-
I
do
I
do
want
to
give
a
a
little
history
on
this
project.
O
The
the
proposed
use
of
this
project
are
garden
homes,
so
we
approached
the
planning
department
about
over
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
a
little
bit
more
than
a
year
and
a
half
ago
with
the
knowing
that
we
were
going
to
do
a
garden
home
type
development.
Here
we
kind
of
gave
examples
around
the
city,
there's
the
kalade
heights
garden
homes,
there's
some
monarch
garden
homes
up
in
north
laredo
on
monarch,
drive
that
have
the
parameters
that
we
were
seeking
back
before
this
current
administration.
O
The
way
things
were
being
done
were
by
an
sup
process
that
we
wanted
to
start
back.
In
the
day
we
were
told
that
the
sup
really
wasn't
meant
for
that,
so
we
we
rezoned
it
to
r1b
to
make
them
the
smallest
block
possible,
because
they
were
currently
working
on
a
different
zone,
ordinance
to
include
garden
type
development
in
the
city
of
laredo.
O
We
asked
what
the
time
frame
of
that
was,
and
they
were
hoping
that
within
the
year
that
new
zone,
that
new
ordinance
that
would
come
in
part
of
the
recode
would
already
be.
In
effect,
we
decided
to
kind
of
slow
down
a
little
bit
as
far
as
obtaining
this
new
zone.
We
got
our
plans,
approved
we're
currently
under
construction,
and
so
now
we're
at
the
point
where
we
wanted
him
forward.
O
We
did
discuss
with
the
planning
department
the
pud
process.
However,
the
pud
process
requires
a
certain
acreage.
The
only
lots
that
we're
asking
for
a
variance
are
just
on
these
lots,
not
the
32
acres
that
the
entire
repla
encompasses
the
commercial
track.
That's
just
west
of
us,
that's
being
commercial!
That's
before
north
of
us,
that's
zoned,
r1
r1a!
O
So
that's
going
to
stay
at
a
minimum
of,
I
believe
5
000
square
foot
lots.
So
when
you
just
account
for
the
variance
that
we're
asking
for
just
on
these
66
lots,
it's
actually
less
than
the
requirement
for
a
pud
is
less
than
the
I
think,
20
acres.
So
we
looked
at
different
options.
So
we
discussed
this
with
the
with
the
finding
department,
the
pud,
and
we
said
that
we
didn't
qualify
because
we
were
under
the
required
acreage.
O
We
did
see
that
the
planning
and
zoning
actually
does
have
the
ability
to
grant
a
variant
now.
Obviously,
you
would
have
to
fall
under
one
of
those
four
categories
that
are
outlined
in
the
comments.
The
one
that
we're
holding
our
hat
on
is
the
uni,
the
unique
design
consideration
and
what
that
warrants.
Well,
I
think,
in
everybody's
mind
unique
means
you
know
triangles
and
weird
designs,
all
that.
O
O
We
were
trying
to
mimic
what
other
developments
did
and
we
were
told
that
we
couldn't
do
that
now,
the
pud
process,
the
pud
process,
is
mainly
for
our
development
that
you're
trying
to
accommodate
multiple
things
that
you're
trying
to
move
away
from
the
ordnance,
private
streets,
narrower
streets,
different
street
lights,
different
setbacks,
smaller
lots
here,
we're
actually
abiding
by
the
the
minimum
lot
size
per
zone,
r1b
we're
abiding
by
the
other
setbacks.
The
only
thing
we're
asking
for
is
a
back
setback.
Now.
Why
do
we
want
to
do
this?
O
The
developer
wants
to
create
a
smaller
price
point
for
a
lot
for
for
these
types
of
homes.
Instead
of
paying
the
300
330
000
for
a
starter
home,
he
wants
to
be
in
the
lower
200s,
so
in
his
in
his
development
he
wants
to
provide
for
folks
fights
so
that
somebody
can
go.
We
had
just
talked
about
it
earlier
in
sacramento.
O
You
know
you
know
kind
of
go
into
a
smaller
home
than
kind
of
upgrade,
as
as
you
move
forward
in
life,
so
we
went
ahead
and
looked
at
the
ordinance
that
saw
cnd
can
actually
grant
this
variance.
Based
on
item
number
three,
the
unique
design
consideration
now
again,
I
repeat
unique
design,
meaning
that
I
cannot
do
it
right
now
with
the
way
the
current
rules
are
are
are
red,
and
this
is
coming
also
from
the
climbing
department.
So
that's
what
makes
our
development
unique
in
that
the
garden
home
that
I
want
to
provide?
O
That's
been
provided
around
the
city
of
laredo.
I
cannot
do
that
right
now
and
I
just
want-
or
we
would
like
to
request
for
the
planning
and
zoning
department
just
to
grant
that
variant
and
that's
why
we
provided
the
elevation
and
the
floor
plans
to
show
you
that,
even
in
these
small
lots,
a
two-car
garage
is
going
in,
we
don't
want
to
mess
with
the
20-foot
setback
in
the
front
so
that
we
can
provide
for
parking
in
the
front
line.
O
You
know,
so
that's
what
the
client's
trying
to
accomplish
here
we're
already
under
construction
here,
you
know.
At
the
very
beginning
we
were
told
that
there
was
gonna,
be
a
mechanism
that
was
gonna
be
in
place.
This
should
have
happened
close
to
you
know
within
a
year
when
we
first
met,
which
is
about
a
little
more
than
half
a
year
where
we
are
now
so
now
we're
kind
of
at
the
point
where
hey
nothing
came
up
now.
O
We
need
to
come
up
with
something,
a
different
solution
to
make
this
happen,
and
that's
where
we're
at
and
if
anybody
has
any
questions
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
them.
A
This
is
a
motion
to
prove
the
the
request
and
go
against
that
recommendation.
C
D
C
C
C
C
B
Yes,
as
I
always
do,
I
want
to
thank
each
and
every
one
of
you
planning,
commissioners
for
your
service.
I
want
to
say
as
well
today
you
win
some.
You
lose
some
today
as
staff
the
recommendations
we
had.
You
disagreed
with
them
and
that's:
okay,
that's
perfectly
fine.
We
don't
really
see
them
as
wins
or
losses
here
we
do
our
best
to
provide
the
recommendations
that
we
feel
are
conducive
with
our
responsibility
as
city
planners.
B
Now
you
don't
have
to
agree
with
us
and-
and
you
may
not
agree
with
us
and
that's
perfectly
fine-
our
respect
for
you
doesn't
change
our
respect
for
your
service
and
your
commitment
to
this
community.
That
doesn't
change,
and
we
hope
that
you
always
see
us
as
a
resource.
If
you
have
any
questions,
if
there's
anything
you
want
to
discuss
or
anything,
you
need
from
us
we're
here
for
you
as
staff
to
to
facilitate
your
jobs
as
planning
commission
members.
C
C
All
in
favor
aye
none
heard
motion
carries.
Thank
you
all
very
much
we'll
see
you
later.