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Planning and Zoning Committee Meeting 080620
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And
and
the
reason
I
was
bringing
these
things
up,
as
I
was
looking
at
some
plans
on
by
a
steel
by
seo,
I
think
was
going
to
connect
to
mueller
boulevard
and
I
don't
know,
that's
still
the
plan,
but
to
me
that
sort
of
made
a
little
bit
of
sense.
That's
why
I
post
a
question
whether
this
roads
or
their
property
could
be
extended
up
and
maybe
give
these
area
another
way
out
to,
I
guess
to
eventually
to
buy
a
seals
which
would
get
them
out
to
35
back
past
everything
else.
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Yeah,
but
by
no
means
am
I
trying
to
stop
development,
but
all
I
know
what
it
means
to
the
city,
but
we
do
keep
adding
more
and
more
traffic
to
an
area
where
it's
obvious
to
everyone.
It
can't
handle
more
traffic.
So
we
we
do
need
some
answers.
I'm
not
saying
we
need
a
traffic
impact
analysis,
but
I
think
even
just
a
very,
very
basic
traffic
generation
and
say
which
way
they're
gonna
go.
I
mean
because
we
are
adding
more
traffic,
we're
at
capacity
already
way
beyond
investment.
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We
don't
really
have
all
the
answers
on
the
table
and
I
feel
that
at
this
particular
time
is
not
appropriate
to
develop
that
area,
not
because
of
the
of
the
lack
or
the
need
of
housing,
but
rather
the
the
need
of
access
from
the
concession
congested
areas
into
the
condenser
areas.
My
measure,
my
motion
would
be
to
to
deny
the.
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I'm
sorry
interrupt
whatever
you
guys
decide
to
do
tonight.
I
can
try
and
get
together
with
the
engineer
and
the
developer
and
see
if
we
can
come
up
with
something
that
doesn't
require
a
you
know,
a
time-consuming
study
just
based
on
their
their
engineers,
experience
in
mine
and
see
if
we
can
hash
something
out,
regardless
of
what
you
want
to
do,
we
can
still
do
that.
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Chairman
this
is,
I
just
to
clarify:
riverbank
opens
up
onto
the
frontage
road
on
world
trade
at
69
right
right,
and
then
it
opens
up
also
to
mines
road,
so
there's
two
possible
ways
to
get
out
of
there
right.
Yes,
right
now:
yes,
okay,
so
the
congestion
is
mainly
on
mine's
road,
correct
or
both
intersections.
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I
will
also
point
out
that
one
of
the
comments
from
traffic
would
does
require
them
to
provide
a
secondary
access
for
the
further
phases
once
they
get
into
this,
and
so
that
was
a
comment
already
there
that
that
the
engineer
agreed
with
and
approving
this
with
the
comments
would
would
allow
dan
to
go
forward
with
mr
mcgee
to
go
forward
with
that
plan
to
look
at
some
generation
and
look
at
where
they
could
get
that.
Second
access
would
be
have
to
have
to
be
determined
before
when
those
further
phases
come
in.
When.
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As
you
exit
to
the
north
on
riverbank,
you
have
four
lanes
with
a
separation
in
the
middle
and
then
it
then
it
pokes
to
two
lanes,
but
only
because
it's
all
stripes
for
two
lanes,
so
basically
the
stripping
in
there.
You
know,
but
the
other
thing
as
far
as
the
traffic
balance,
if
you
look
at
the
atp
that
are
hit
by
the
text,
dot,
that
they've
done
up,
those
are
not
out
of
the
ordinary
and
in
fact
they're
below
the
adp's
that
size
road.
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The
discomfort
for
the
for
the
homeowners
out
there
is
that,
like
there's,
lack
of
enforcement
on
the
industrial
side
and
people
are
queuing
on
the
road
to
get
into
those
warehouses.
So
you
know
we're
got
plenty
plenty
of
roads
from
other
all
the
whole
road
system
is
minimum
80
foot
right
away
and
there's
already
an
agreed
connection
to
the
north.
When
that
happens,
so
we're
not
that
this
is
the
same
circulation
plan
that
we've
had
since
from
back
in
2006,
when
the
initial
master
plan
was
approved.
Okay,.
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And
we
jointly
develop
the
sewer
line
and
the
lift
station
that's
present
at
that.
That's
this
is
the
area.
So,
as
far
as
a
future
connection
to
north
on
the
master
plan,
we
have
a
90-foot
roadway
that
do
not
intend
it's
a
challenge.
I
mean
that
that
ninety
foot,
you
know
that
right
away
is
part
of
the
part
of
the
plan
and
we're
not
you
know
we're
not
changing.
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Mr
chairman,
jorge
dominguez,
one
of
the
reasons
that
I
made
a
motion
to
deny
is
pretty
much
because
everything
that
we
have
heard
these
assumptions
and
none
of
the
agreements
are
in
writing
and
we
always
not
always,
but
some
of
the
areas
have
been
left
without
outlets,
because
at
one
time
or
another
there
was
a
a
proposed
alignment
and,
like
you
mentioned
previously,
the
owners
either
they
decide
not
to
develop
that
area
or
continue
with
the
road.
I
mean
it's
as
good
as
not
having
an
outlet.
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I
mean
I
understand
what
kirby
is
saying
as
far
as
that
that
we
already
have
approved
the
master
plan,
but
this
is
a
good
time
to
to
add
the
conditions
to
to
develop
this
area
wherein
whoever
is
going
to
live.
There
is
going
to
be
a
comfortable
living
there
and
being
able
to
exit
the
area
at
a
convenience
space.
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So
I
think
that
that
the
best
way
to
to
cover
and
through
and
to
be
safeguarded,
the
community
is
to
to
approve
something
that
we
know.
That
is
gonna,
be
of
a
good
movement
and
motion
for
the
for
the
community
itself
and,
of
course,
the
comfort
because,
when
they
buy,
I
mean
that
they're
there
to
stay.
We
already
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
issues
with
the
with
the
neighboring
residents
and
they
do
have
a
account
right
there.
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A
Tonight
this
request
will
not
stop
this
development.
They
do
have
an
approved
master
plan,
they
were
reconfiguring
the
phases
and
so
the
the
the
same
basic
transportation
infrastructure
is
there
in
the
pre
in
the
older
master
plan
or
in
the
already
approved
master
plan.
So
we
could
go
forward
with
that.
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Now
that's
not
figured
out
right
now
entirely
and
if
you
want
to
see
that
design
figured
out
before
you
could
table
and
ask
them
to
to
to
fix
those
things
before,
maybe
give
you
some
of
those
traffic
numbers
that
our
traffic
director
is
asking
for,
or
you
could
approve
it
with
the
comments
and
trust
that
that
process
is
going
to
is
going
to
take
place
when
they
bring
you.
A
new
phase
is.
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When
the
individual
phases
come
in,
but
they
would
have
to
if,
if
they
couldn't
work
out
an
agreement
with
traffic,
then
they
would.
You
know
that
the
the
phases,
basically
when
the
phases
when
these
individual
phases
come
in,
would
be
your
opportunity
to
approve
or
deny
those
phases
to
say.
No.
This
is
not.
You
know.
This
is
not
working
out
if,
based
on
the
the
sitting
down
with
traffic,
this
configuration
didn't
work
and
they
weren't
providing
that
that
secondary
access
then
and
a
redesign
needed
to
occur.
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Correct
I
mean,
ultimately,
your
authority
is
over
the
actual
phases:
development
can't
that's.
When
you
get
to
decide
whether
development
can
or
can
occur.
The
master
plan
just
guides
each
of
these
phases,
and,
and
each
of
these
phases
needs
to
be
congruent
with
this
master
plan.
But
at
some
point,
if
you
decided
it's
it's
not
working,
then
yes,
you
could
stop
the
approval
of
those
phases.
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N
You
know,
if
we
deny
it,
then
you
know
it
makes
sense
to
me
to
allow
them
to
proceed,
but
but
then
we
know
we've
got
an
opportunity
to
check
later
and
and
have
those
comments
remain
there.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
add
an
additional
comment
that
gives
them.
You
know
that
that
maybe
mr
mcgee
would
would
recommend
that
gives
us
an
opportunity
to.
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Question
or
a
comment
for
traffic
just
an
observation,
even
if
you
connected
to
mother
road,
I
don't
think
that's
gonna
solve
the
the
traffic
issue.
No
one's
going
to
go
up;
muller
road
to
get
out
of
the
subject
to
get
onto
my
throat
and
when
you're,
coming
back
on
mine's
road
you're
not
going
to
go
all
the
way
from
water
to
get
into
the
subdivision.
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Traffic
is
a
lot
like
water.
It's
always
going
to
seek
the
path
of
least
resistance.
So
I
think,
if
you're
stuck
at
a
signal
there
to
kill
them
for
5-10
minutes
at
a
time-
and
you
can
go
around
it,
they
might
do
that
we're
working
to
alleviate
the
the
turn
to
the
south,
which
is
going
on
riverbank
and
meeting
up
with
I-69
with
the
former
loop
20..
But
we
don't
have
a
traffic
signal
there.
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O
Thank
you
for
the
overview.
The
applicant
is
limited.
The
engineers
howlin
engineering
and
surveying
company
800,
809,
acre
tract
of
land
located
east
of
u.s,
highway,
83
and
west
of
cuatro
vientos.
The
zoning
is
b1
b3,
r1a,
r1b
and
r1mh.
The
proposed
use
is
both
residential
and
commercial,
and
the
proposed
number
of
lots
is
1151..
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Vidary.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
The
applicant
is
killer
development
limited.
The
engineer
is
sekai
engineering.
The
property
description
is
605,
acre
tract
of
land
located
south
of
us
highway
59
and
on
both
sides
of
of
the
glute.
The
zoning
is
b3
b4
r2
r1a,
both
the
residential
commercial
and
the
total
development,
is
1074
lots,
general
location.
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Southwest
limited,
the
engineer
of
record
is
howling
engineering
and
surveying
18.79
acres
located
south
of
sinusoidal,
parkway
and
east
of
springfield
avenue.
The
zoning
is
a
g
and
b4
and
the
proposed
user
detention
pods.
The
proposed
number
of
lots
of
three
enter
location,
aerial
view
street
view
and
the
proposed
class.
M
I
will
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
We
do
have
just
one
comment
on
the
water
utility
comments.
The
comment
number
one
says
easements
to
detention,
canals
or
future
right
away
are,
shall
be
with
all
weather
access
road.
So
the
backstory
of
this
is
these
ponds
were
constructed
about
10
years
ago
to
satisfy
the
detention
requirements
for
the
surrounding
residential
subdivisions,
mainly,
and
also
it's
basically
for
all
the
san
diego
southwest,
which
is
their
south
west
quadrant
of
their
entire
san
diego
development.
M
Now
for
the
city
to
take
over
these
ponds
city
has
asked
the
developer
to
plant
the
ponds
for
the
city.
All
all
improvements
have
been
done.
There's
no
construction
for
this
plant.
It's
a
mere
formality
to
turn
over
the
to
the
city,
these
these
detention
pods.
So
that
being
said,
is
that
being
said.
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M
The
easements
that
run
inside
the
pond
were
even
created
before
the
pond
was
constructed
and
those
are
some
sewer
events
that
already
have
access
off
of
san
diego
parkway
springfield
road,
all
those
major
roads
that
are
already
constructed.
So
I
know
you're
chilling
in
here-
is
asking
for
all-weather
access
road.
However,
there's
already
access
off
of
these
major
roads
that
are
already
paved
and
built.
M
So
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
clarify
this
comment
with
utilities
at
the
time
of
one
stop
shop,
so
that
if
I
don't
feel
that
we
need
that
all
access
roads,
but
this
comment
is
kind
of
just
basically
stating
that
I
must
put
all
access
roads
in
orders
in
england.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
with
the
commission,
so
that
I
may
be
able
to
take
care
of
that
in
the
one-stop-shop
process.
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C
Yeah
the
applicant
is
aquido
limited.
The
engineer
is
fortress
nance
engineering,
the
property
description
location
is
20.75,
75,
acre
trek
of
land.
The
location
is
west
of
riverbank,
road
and
north
of
babula
group.
The
zoning
currently
it's
ag
the
proposed
used
is
single-family
residential.
The
proposed
number
of
lots
is
99.
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A
Okay,
commissioner
villarreal
the
the
the
applicant
and
the
engineer
are
from
out
of
town
and
we've
been
working
with
them
quite
a
bit
to
to
make
sure
you
know
they're
not
as
familiar
with
the
process,
but
we
have
many
comments
and
we
feel
confident
that
all
these
comments
are
addressed,
that
that
it'll
address
any
issues
that
may
arise
from
from
parceling
out.
These
two.
O
Mr
vidari,
yes,
sir
applicant
city
of
laredo,
the
engineer
is
ramon
chavez,
pe
proper
description,
4.34,
acre
tract
of
land
located
west
of
fm
1472
and
north
of
diesel.
Road.
The
zoning
is
b3.
The
proposed
writer
use
is
right
away
and
it's
one
lot
proposed
general
location
map,
aerial
view
street
view
and
the
proposed
flat.
Q
Yes,
sir,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee
chavez
a
city
engineer,
the
engineering
department
has
been
tasked
to
take
the
lead
on
this
flat
and
we
are
working
with
sheriff
engineering
who
will
be
designing
this
right
away
to
meet
the
subdivision
standards,
there's
existing
water
and
sewer
out
there.
Originally.
This
was
designed
as
a
park
road
and
the
existing
pavement,
this
edge
of
asphalt
to
edge
of
asphalt,
and
that's
certainly,
it
has
no
current
gutter.
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Good
evening,
mr
commissioners,
frank
casado
with
surfing
engineering.
Actually
I
wanted
to
make
a
comment.
I
guess
I
guess
rafael,
mr
vidadi
didn't
receive
the
letter,
but
we
requested
this
item
be
postponed
once
again
time.
Certain.
There
has
been
out
of
all
the
comments
that
were
there.
There's
been
several
communication
with
with
the
departments
and
we
are
getting
close,
but
we
are
still
not
quite
there
yet.
So
we
would
like
to
see
if
we
can
request
the
item
get
postponed.
Concern.
A
B
B
B
A
I
will
sir
commissioners,
you
asked
last
time
that
we
bring
you
some
information
on
the
the
situation
for
transportation
in
the
mines
road
area
in
northwest
laredo.
So
we
brought
you
txdot.
We
brought
you
the
rma
to
present
and
as
well
we've
put
together.
Some
information
on
current
traffic
volume
speak
somewhat
to
capacity
and
also
the
the
future
plans
that
we
have
in
place.
A
A
number
60
on
that
list
for
texas
most
congested
roads
is
mines.
Road
from
pan-american
to
bob
olak.
68
is
milo
road
from
mines,
road
to
ih-35,
81,
saunders,
96
man,
road
I'll,
just
point
out
again
these
roads.
You
can
see
a
little
map
that
txdot
provides
you
can
you
can
view
this
information
online?
A
This
was
a
study
completed
by
both
txdot
and
tti,
the
texas
transportation
institute
and
number
three
bob
bullock
loop
from
the
bridge
to
the
interstate,
that's
on
par
with
the
most
congested
roads
in
the
state
like
interstate
10
in
houston
and
congested
roads
in
dallas.
So
I
mean
that
really
that
there
we've
got
some
serious
issue
there.
As
you're
aware,
I'm
sure
a
little
more
detail
on
the
bob
bullock
loop
from
from
the
bridge
to
ih-35
they.
A
They
estimate
that
there's
about
20
million
dollars
of
annual
trump
truck
congestion
costs
associated
with
the
congestion
there
and
they
make
those
calculations
based
on
the
amount
of
delay.
That's
there.
If
a
truck
was
running
at
normal
speed
versus
the
congestion,
it
has
to
run
through
how
much
waste
in
time
and
how
much
waste
in
fuel
and
they
make
those
calculations
and
and
we're
looking
about
20
million
congestion
costs.
Those
are
those
are
primary
costs.
Those
aren't
secondary
and
tertiary
costs
that
are
also
you
may
get,
because
something
gets
delayed
or
something
else.
A
These
are
just
due
to
fuel
costs
and
time
of
the
driver.
If
you
look
as
well,
you
can
see.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
my
cursor,
but
the
speed
limit
on
going.
The
yellow
is
westbound
on
this
route,
so
westbound
would
be
I-35
to
the
bridge
you're.
Looking
at
you
know,
just
over
40
miles
an
hour
on
average
at
all
times.
The
post-it
speed
limit
here,
I
believe,
is
55
but
going
eastbound,
which
is
the
blue.
A
A
You
know,
there's
not
a
peak
in
congestion
for
what
the
westbound
traffic
excuse
me,
but
for
the
eastbound
traffic
there's
a
peak
in
congestion
at
around
5
p.m,
and
looking
at
mines,
road
from
pan-american
to
bob
bullock,
number
60
on
the
most
congested
roads,
most
truck
congested
roads
in
in
texas
and
we're
looking
about
just
over
11
million
of
annual
truck
congestion
costs
here
again
opposed
to
speed
limits
55.
But
you
can
see
neither
eastbound
or
westbound
get
above
40
at
any
time
during
the
day
and
the
the
south
or
sorry.
A
This
is
northbound
and
southbound.
The
blue
is
southbound,
the
the
orange
is
the
the
orange
is
southbound.
The
blue
is
northbound.
Neither
of
these
get
above
40
miles
an
hour
and
at
5
pm
the
southbound
drops
below
20
miles
an
hour
on
average,
and
you
can
see
those
peak
times
both
northbound
and
southbound
experience
peak
congestion
times.
A
Looking
at
mines
road,
you
asked
about
capacity,
you
know
capacity
and
mr
mcgee,
our
traffic
department
director,
can
can
refer
to
this.
You
know
you
don't
typically
measure
capacity
in
terms
of
you.
Have
it
or
you
don't
you
measure
it
in
terms
of
level
of
service,
meaning
how
bad
is
the
congestion
level
of
service
a
is,
there's,
no
congestion.
A
You
know
you're
going
the
speed
limit
at
all
times,
all
the
way
down
to
level
of
service
f,
where
you're
at
failure
where
you
do
have
congestion
at
your
peak
times,
where
you
know
you
get
that
serious
traffic
and
you
can
see
this
is
annual
average
daily
traffic.
So
this
is
the
amount
of
volume
that
we
have.
You
know
we
can.
A
A
Now
I
don't
know
how
much
level
you
want
to
go
in
depth
here,
I'm
going
to
err
on
the
side
of
just
letting
you
know
this
is
here
highlighting
a
few
things,
but
we
can
come
back
to
it
if
you
want,
but
I
will
send
you
this
information,
so
you
can
digest
it
more,
but
txdot
looked
at
what
are
short-term
strategies.
We
can
do
what
our
midterm
strategies
we
can
do
and
long-term
strategies
we
can
do
for
for
all
of
these
roads
in
these
areas.
A
The
point
I
want
to
get
across
here
is
that
you
know
if
we
have
a
developer.
Let's
just
say
hypothetical
we've
got
a
developer.
Who's
got
a
big
development
coming
in
who
says
well
the
roads.
You
know
it's
already
bad,
there's
not
much.
We
can
do
you
know
you
shouldn't
stop
the
development,
just
let
it
continue.
There
are
things
we
can
do.
There
are
and,
and
textile
has
already
lined,
that
up.
A
They've
spent
the
time
and
money
studying
what
can
be
done
short
term
midterm
long
term,
and
most
all
these
things
require
money,
whether
it's
timing,
the
lights,
whether
it's
striping,
whether
it's
the
costliest,
which
is
purchasing
additional
right
of
way.
All
these
things
have
been
studied
out,
they
do
cost
money
and
they
are
mitigations.
A
So
if
somebody
were
to
add
a
big
development-
and
we
did
ask
them
to
do
a
tia
and
it
was
determined
that
they
were
going
to
have
a
big
impact-
we
have
mitigations
already
in
place
and
we
just
need
to
get
a
hold
of
the
funding
and
and
see
what
proportion
of
that
funding
they
would.
They
should
or
would
be
responsible
for
in
order
to
mitigate
the
impact
of
adding
more
traffic
to
these
roads.
A
So
that's
there
and
we
can.
We
can
go
to
them
if
you
want,
but
I
just
want
to
I'll
wrap
up
here
and
pass
it
over
to
the
rma
for
the
npo
on
our
our
tip,
which
is
our
transportation
improvement
program.
This
is
our
four-year
funded
projects.
You
can
see
that
we
have
about
63.
These
are
funded,
projects,
see
there's
projects
that
the
state
has
has
funded,
and
so
these
projects
are
going
to
happen.
A
We've
got
a
few
more
million
dollars
for
improvements
that
can
be
made
in
this
area
and
then
our
long
range,
which
is
not
funded,
but
it's
our
long-range
plan.
Where
we're
looking
longer
term.
We
are
looking
at
viaceo
road
and
we've
got
an
estimate
of
60
million
dollars
that
we'll
we'll
need
to
fund
for
that
project.
To
add
a
five
lane.
A
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
pass
it
over
to
the
rma
before
I
do.
Do
you
have
any
questions,
commissioners,
or
do
you
want
to
wait
to
the
end,
maybe
allow
the
rma
to
present
their
slides,
sure,
okay,
rma.
If
you
want
to
share
your
screen,
jason
and
I'd
like
to
introduce
jason,
your
muted
we've
got
mr
jason
rodriguez
and.
A
T
R
Continuation
of
it's
actually
a
very
nice
setup.
What
kirby
showed
you,
the
the
text?
Dot
and
tti
study
sort
of
sort
of
started
this
in
in
2016,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
that
was
kind
of
looking
at
as
kirby
mentioned.
Was
you
know?
What
can
we
do
about
congestion
in
the
mines,
road
area
with
fm14.
R
Was
made
to
do
a
broader
study
and
that
study
would
look
more
at
the
roadway
network
as
a
whole
and
see
if
there
weren't
some
short
and
mid-term
adjustments
that
could
be
made
or
additions
to
that
network
to
help
mines
road
perform
a
little
better.
So
while,
while
the
tti
study
did
focus
a
little
bit
more
specifically
on
mines,
the
north
laredo
webb
county
transportation
planning
study
that
was
completed
by
the
rma
in
march
of
this
year.
R
Actually
it
looks
at
a
broader
area,
and
you
see
that
sort
of
orange
triangle
there
bound
by
35
to
the
east,
I-69
west,
the
border
and
then
texas
255
there
to
the
north,
and
and
this
you
can
see
kind
of
the
background.
There
is
actually
the
website
of
the
rma.
And
if
you
go
to
studies,
you
can
actually
download
this
information
and
and
all
the
appendices
that
go
with
it.
So
I'll
continue
on
here.
R
One
thing:
I
think
that
is
actually
pretty
pretty
relevant
to
some
of
the
discussion
that
happened
earlier
today
and
then,
of
course,
to
talk
even
about
mines,
road
a
little
bit
more.
What
we're
seeing
here
is
our
priority
network
that
came
out
of
this
study.
I
should
say
we
did
look
at
previous
studies.
R
We
did
include
a
stakeholder
involvement
talking
to
school
districts,
the
the
public
agencies,
some
of
the
developers
and
and
many
of
the
trade
organizations
as
well,
and
we
did
have
a
public
meeting
as
well
out
here
and
got
a
lot
of
attendance
from
from
various
residents
in
the
area
and
and
really
what
we
heard
was
very
commonly
that
there
is
a
primary
network
and
and
what
you
can
see
here
in
blue.
You
see
mines,
road
or
fm,
1472
and
kilim
industrial
is
sort
of
the
major.
R
To
get
to
the
interstate
system
and
then
in
red
there
you
see
milo
sata
and
riverbank
drive
and
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
riverbank
today
as
well,
and
then
there
the
green,
dotted
lines.
What
you're
seeing
are
the
proposed
new
network
connections,
so
you
see
down
here
an
extension
of
milo
2
riverbank
to
help
with
distribution
there.
We
did
talk
about
aquido
boulevard.
I
think
we
were
talking
more
in
the
southern
area
about
that,
but
this
would
be
more
of
a
residential
or
mixed
use.
R
Kind
of
outlet
that
would
connect
with
a
char
parkway
eventually
and
by
a
co,
as
was
mentioned
before,
would
be
aligned
with
af
mueller
boulevard.
So
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
viaceal
boulevard
right
here,
just
north
of
pilum,
industrial
and
hachar
parkway-
are
absolutely
key
connections,
both
between
fm
1472
and
interstate
35,
they're
they're,
both
very
important
for
the
betterment
of
the
safety,
mobility
and
even
economic
vitality
in
the
area.
R
They're
sort
of
bundled
into
24
project
packages
that
would
be
sort
of
related
projects
and
the
three
colors
you're,
seeing
here,
they're
in
green.
Those
would
be
the
short-term
projects
out
of
this
study
and-
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
primary
network
roads-
we
were
talking
about
there,
including
by
a
ceo
and
hr
as
the
new
roadways
in
blue.
You
start
to
see
the
midterm.
These
are
critical
connections
as
well.
R
Some
of
them
are
sort
of
making
some
additions
to
existing
roadways
and
then
some
new
roadway
network
at
various
locations,
including
aquido
there
and
then
in
the
longer
term.
You
see
the
red
and
the
red
was
really
it
sort
of
sets
a
framework
for
how
over
time
this
system
could
grow.
Inclu
included
in
that
is,
is
the
potential
to
eventually
expand
fm
1472
into
a
freeway
as
a
possibility,
but
over
time
as
plans
are
developed
that
longer
term
network
does
have
to
be
studied.
R
I
think
a
key
takeaway
here
is
that
this
network
is
really
what's
needed
to
be
able
to
distribute
traffic
evenly
throughout
the
network.
What
we
did
find
in
our
traffic
analysis
is
that
mines,
road
will
probably
always
be
a
pretty
busy
road,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
the
density
of
freight
supportive
land
uses
in
the
area
and
then,
of
course,
its
its
proximity
to
the
world
trade
bridge
port
of
entry
there.
R
So,
but
there
are
ways
that
that
growth
can
occur
without
making
that
traffic
much
worse
and
in
some
cases,
even
making
improvements
to
that
congestion
along
that
roadway.
And
so
what
I
do
want
to
show
you
here
in
closing
is
just
as
part
of
this
study.
We
did
actually
propose
implementation,
and
so
you
can
see
sort
of
those
there
at
the
top.
R
You
see
those
top
five
sort
of
short
term
and
then
in
the
middle
you
see
the
midterm
and
then
the
longer
term
projects
there
at
the
bottom
and
how
they
play
out
over
here
and
and
what
phase
of
development
they
would
be
in
or
or
construction
for
that
matter,
and
then
you
can
see.
There's
currently
there's
a
partnership,
for
example
between
the
rma
and
txdot
working
on
the
fm
1472
and
kilm
industrial
intersection.
L
R
And
hachar
would
be
next,
we
did
also
identify
milo
extension
and
and
some
pedestrian
upgrades
to
the
area.
So
really,
our
next
steps
are,
are
to
formalize
any
partnerships
that
would
be
necessary
on
the
public
side
and
even
considering
partnering
with
the
private
sector
to
deliver
some
of
these
roadways.
As
kirby
said,
this
does
cost
money
and-
and
it
would
be
a
matter
of
really
prioritizing
and
seeing
is-
is
this
implementation
actually
best
for
the
community?
R
B
A
U
Thank
you,
kirby.
Thank
you
plan
zoning
commission
gonzalez
director
of
tpmd
for
the
texas
little
district
for
the
record.
I
just
want
to
echo
you
know
all
the
hard
work
that's
gone
into
play
with
the
planning
department
and
the
rma
to
study
this
integral
area
in
north
laredo.
That
we
know
is
a
definite
congestion
and
a
hot
point
as
kirby
showed,
but
I
also
want
to
point
out
is
that
that
txdot
is
not
only
you
know,
planning,
but
we're
also
putting
our
our
money
where.
U
U
U
the
number
60
roadway,
which
was
fm
1472
that
I
just
want
to
mention
how
happy
I
am
at
being
part
of
texas
that
this
commission
is
really
placing
a
lot
of
importance
on
1472
with
these
additional
developments
coming
in,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
that
we
plan
them
accordingly.
I
think
a
lot
of
times
texas
gets
asked.
What
are
we
doing
on
1472
and
I
think
we
all
know
that
in
order
to
really
solve
the
problem,
online's
role,
it's
a
joint
effort
between
texas
and
the
city
and
the
rma.
U
U
So
that
number
60
roadway,
we
have
a
project
landing
in
november,
like
jason,
said
we're
adding
a
right
turn
lane
on
mines,
road
in
between
I-69,
all
the
way
to
kilim
and
that's
to
alleviate
traffic
and
to
allow
an
extra
right
turn
lane
going
into
km
industrial
as
well.
We're
adding
the
right
turn
lane
project
that
the
rma
is
bringing
forward
to
add
a
right
turn
lane
on
kilim
heading
westbound
to
northbound
1472,
so
that
will
alleviate
congestion
in
that
area.
U
It's
going
to
be
doing
intersection,
improvements
to
a
tune
of
5
million
to
improve
traffic
flow
to
that
whole
area
and
again,
as
kirby
mentioned,
that
a
chart
richthinger
road
in
that
in
that
vicinity,
texas,
is
providing
funding
funding
in
the
tune
of
over
50
million
dollars
to
get
that
project
funded
to
make
sure
that
we
also
provide
a
relief
to
all
the
traffic
there
in
1472
and
actually
five.
So
again,
I
just
want
to
give
you
guys
an
update
on
what's
actually
going
to
be
going
into
the
ground
soon.
U
A
B
B
Let
me
rephrase
the
question:
okay,
rma
did
a
study
of
this
whole
area,
I'm
sure
they
looked
at
the
volumes
of
traffic
coming
off
a
world
trade
bridge
going
into
mines,
road
and
obviously
the
volume
going
back
out
into
mexico
and
that's
kind
of
like
what
I
would
like
to
see.
What
what
is
that
number?
I
mean
I
guess
what
I'm
getting
at
is
that
a
lot
of
our
cross-border
traffic
is
dragged
about
80
percent
or
better
is
probably
back
and
forth
traffic
through
the
world
trade
bridge.
U
So
this
is
tito
gonzalez
again
from
text
dot
jason,
I
think
we
may
have
provided
those
to
the
rma,
but
texted
as
well.
Gti
is
performing
a
study
that
they're
almost
complete
with
and
they
are
doing.
That
would
be,
commissioner,
that's
actually
an
origin,
a
destination
study
that
they're
doing
and
that's
going
to
give
you
the
numbers
that.
B
Let
me
ask
you
a
real
quick
question,
mr
gonzalez,
I
don't
know
if
you
know
what
what
is
it
do
you
does
anybody,
maybe
kirby
somebody
what
what
is
the
volume
of
traffic
that
we're
crossing
right
now
on
a
daily
basis
here
at
world
trade?
I
know
at
one
time
it
was
15
000..
I
don't
know
what
it
is
today.
A
Well,
I've
got
that
information
pulled
up
for
you
right
now.
Okay,
the
annual
average
daily
traffic
in
2019
was
about
22
000
vehicles
on
the
world
trade
bridge.
Had
it
headed
on
that
segment
from
the
world
trade
bridge
to
the
interstate
that
segment
of
I-69
or
bobolic
loop,
whatever
you're
going
to
call
it
and
that's
down
from
a
high
in
2014
of
33
000..
So
I'm
not
sure
what
what
happened
there
in
terms
of
different
flow
from
different
bridges,
but
right
in
2019
we're
looking
at
22
000.,
okay,.
I
I
R
Well,
this
is
jason
rodriguez.
I
think
one
thing
that
I'll
say
is
that
and
the
commissioner's
absolutely
right
that
a
lot
of
the
traffic-
that's
that's
going
in
and
out
of
this
area
is
dragged,
so
it's
not
just
necessarily
going
to
and
from
the
port
of
entry,
while
there
are
significant
counts
there.
A
lot
of
it
is,
is
traffic?
That's
just
trying
to
get
from
one
place
to
another
within
laredo
from
one
sort
of
storage
area
to
to
another
as
they
unload
then
they'll,
they'll,
reload
somewhere
else.
R
So
really
what
we
found
is
actually
expanding
the
network
and
and
offering
other
connectivity
will
help
to
alleviate
right
now.
The
condition
is
that
the
only
option
you
have
is
to
use
mines
to
get
in
and
out
film.
Industrial
is
also
used
a
little
bit
there
as
well,
but
that
was
a
key
finding
that
we
had
to
expand
the
network
essentially.
B
B
Obviously
we're
still
going
to
be
using
this
corridor
heavily
in
your
study.
Did
you
guys
even
consider
look
at
a
very
expensive
option
which
would
be
to
put-
and
you
mentioned
it-
an
expressway
over
the
mines,
road
that
would
connect
the
world
trade
bridge,
maybe
back
down
to
this
industrial
area
somewhere
around
kilim
or
somewhere
in
that
area.
R
Yes,
sir,
so
that
that
was
right
off
the
bat
I
can
say
that
was
something
that
was
seen
as
as
sort
of
a
no-brainer
in
a
lot
of
ways.
I
mean
it,
it's
it
would
add
tons
of
capacity
and
be
able
to
manage
that.
There
are
several
complications,
though,
in
in
that
there's
a
restrictive
right-of-way,
currently
they're
along
fm
1472,
where
development
is
actually
within
the
right-of-way.
That
will
be
necessary
to
do
that.
Expressway
also.
What
we
found
is
most
likely.
R
The
interchange
between
I-69,
west
and
fm
1472
would
actually
have
to
be
reconstructed
or
reconfigured
in
order
to
serve
that
purpose.
So
we
did
not.
We,
we
decided
not
to
eliminate
that
alternative,
that's
something
that
is
in
the
plan,
but
it's
more
of
a
longer
term
fix.
So
in
the
short
term,
I
think
you
know
tech
stock
kind
of,
and
we
explained
you
know
that
we're
working
right
now
for
some
short-term
fixes
for
fm
1472,
but
certainly
still
included
in
the
study,
is
the
longer
range
expressway.
B
Okay,
but
let
me
ask
you
this:
what
you
were
looking
at,
where
you
were?
Were
you
looking
at
buying
additional
right-of-way
to
do
an
expressway
section
of
1472,
or
were
you
looking
at
what
other
cities
have
done,
placing
an
expressway
over
an
existing
road
and
not
having
to
get
any
additional
right-of-way.
R
So
I
I
think,
I
think,
probably
the
the
assumption
or
or
the
the
practice
that
that
we
were
we
were,
including
in
that
was
to
do
it
within
a
a
single
right
away,
not
within
the
existing
right-of-way.
So
we
did
think
that
it
was
going
to
be
a
better,
a
better
option
for
us
to
actually
consider
expanding
right
away
so
that
cost
did
include
expanding
right
away.
We
even
think
if
you
were
to
elevate
it
and
and
put
it
over
that
roadway,
which
I
will
be
honest,
that
is
something
that
was
discussed.
R
We
still
think
that
you're
going
to
end
up
with
substantial
right-of-way
requirements
in
the
in
the
segment-
that's
that's
most
densely
populated
at
this
point
with
with
businesses
and
so
forth.
So
between
I-69
and,
let's
say,
inter
america,
that
area
we
would,
regardless
of
the
option
we
would
be
getting
into
right-of-way
north
of
that
it's
a
little
bit
more
flexible.
B
B
B
If
you
have
a
section
of
road,
it
could
be
a
you
know
just
depends
on
what
you
know,
what
type
of
a
road
you
design,
but
with
a
continuous
movement.
Obviously
that
roadway
section
would
be
able
to
fit,
doesn't
have
to
be
a
freeway
section
or
anything
like
that,
but
it
could
be
a
road
that
could
be
utilized
that
would
expedite
traffic,
and
you
know
it
doesn't
have
to
go
through
all
these
stops
and
making
it
flow
a
lot
easier.
R
And
I'm
happy
to
continue,
I
mean
the
so.
One
thing
I
can
say
is
that
any
of
the
intersections
for
that
sort
of
controlled
access
feature
that
I
think
you're
describing
there
you'd
still
need.
I
mean
we
need
on-ramps
exits,
overpasses
and
things
like
that
and-
and
we
did
see
that
that
would
be
a
larger
footprint.
Now,
I'm
not
saying
it's
impossible
to
kind
of
play
with
that
a
little
bit
more,
but
you
know
I
would
invite
others
to
get
to
explain
sort
of.
R
B
So
you
know
the
thinking
here
would
be,
let's
see,
let's
think
out
of
the
box,
and
what
can
we
do
with
what
the
existing
road
that
we
have?
I
put
it
in
elevator
road
on
top
of
the
other
one.
I
realized
that
yes,
we're
going
to
have
to
do
off
ramps
and
on-ramps,
but
it's
it's
a
challenge
that
I
think
can
be
accomplished.
R
B
I
don't
know
how
much
later
we
can
wait,
because
it
takes
years
to
get
these
things
going.
So
to
me,
it's
kind
of
important
that
we
start
talking
about
it,
planning
on
it
right
now,
because
the
funding
for
these
things
takes
time
and
it
is
an
expensive
project
and
if
we
don't
get
it
on
the
books
right
now
to
get
it
going
through.
B
The
rma
through
the
city
of
laredo,
through
the
state
of
texas,
that'll,
never
get
done,
but
we
need
to
consider
that
because
laredo
is
a
large
port
of
entry,
a
land
port
and
it's
going
to
continue
to
grow
given
just
because
of
our
location,
you
know
we're
on
the
tip
of
35
and
we're
at
the
tip
of
the
pan-american
highway.
So
we
got
access
from
the
tip
of
south
america
all
the
way
into
canada
going
through.
B
Here,
it's
not
going
to
slow
it's
going
to
continue
increasing
in
the
future,
so
I
think
we
need
to
think
a
little
bit
out
of
the
box,
given
the
constrictions
that
we
have
right
now
and
start
looking
at
doing
something
a
little
different.
I
know
what
is
being
proposed
right
now.
Some
temporary
fixes,
but
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
a
long-term
fix,
asap.
K
O
U
U
K
K
O
O
R
So
they're
the
only
agreements
that
are
in
place.
I
think
the
three
projects
that
that
we
that
we
showed
that
have
that
are
in
the
short
term
that
have
that
are
these
sort
of
capacity
upgrades
to
fm
1472
and
then
viacio
and
hachar
parkway
are
also
in
the
process
of
getting
funded,
but
the
agreement
all
the
agreements
that
would
be
necessary.
T
T
Section:
sections
of
mines,
road
and
I-35:
that's
about
10
million
dollars
worth
of
donation
to
right-of-way
achara.
Very
similarly
has
commitment
from
the
achar
trust
for
donation
of
the
right-of-way
as
well.
So
that's
a
big
step
forward
in
the
project
development
of
of
that
project.
I
know
that
you
know
jason
and
I
can
speak
to
viaceo.
It's
an
rma-sponsored
roadway.
T
We
anticipate
and
we're
hoping
that
this
project
can
be
a
leveraged
project
whereby
txdot
and
the
rma
and
the
killam
company
can
can
put
in
funds
to
constructing
the
roadway.
The
rma
is
right
now
working
towards
project
development,
of
the
of
the
roadway
in
terms
of
geotechnical
type
studies
and
traffic
studies,
but
with
a
leveraged
approach
with
the
money
that
I
mentioned,
that
the
city
and
the
kilim
company
and
txdot.
T
Approach
tech
stock
for
a
funding
gap,
so
so
right
now
out
of
a
23
million
dollar
construction
cost.
There's
a
17
million
dollar
funding
gap
that
we're
hoping
txdot
will
look
at
as
a
wise
investment.
It's
roughly
46
percent
investments
on
tech,
dot
side
to
complete
the
funding
for
a
very
needed
project
by
a
theo
road.
T
K
T
You
know
we,
we
believe
that
both
hr
and
viaceo
are
vitally
important,
roadway
projects
to
construct
to
help
alleviate
the
congestion
that
we're
seeing
on
mines
road.
So
you
know,
like
I
said,
we're
sponsoring
by
a
ceo,
but
we
see
a
chart.
Equally
important
is
via
theo
to
help
the
traveling
public
in
this
area
of
laredo.
T
B
B
B
T
B
T
But
you
know,
if
all
goes
well
and
and
txdot
does
fund
the
funding
gap
of
that
17
and
a
half
million
dollars,
and
we
progress
with
project
development.
You
know
no
hurdles,
no
hiccups,
we're
looking
at
going
to
construction,
2023,
late,
2023
or
sometime
in
2024,
so
the
5
million
dollars
from
the
city
of
laredo
wouldn't
be
needed
until
that
time
frame
that
late,
2023
or
2024
time
frame.
T
B
T
T
It
was
april
20th
of
15
actually
october
5th
of
2015
is
when
the
killam
company
sent
a
letter
to
mayor
pete
side
signs
donating
100
of
that
150
feet.
Since
then,
our
chairman,
jed
brown,
has
coordinated
with
the
killam
family
for
securing
the
400
feet
of
right-of-way
at
the
intersection
of
I-35
and
1472,
and
what
that
does
it
allows
for
future
overpasses,
and
so
you
know
we
definitely
wouldn't
want
to
have
to
purchase
a
big
commercial
establishment
like
a
gas
station
or
industrial
type
buildings
that
were
to
be
built
there.
B
B
T
T
T
B
T
Well,
for
this
particular
funding,
our
our
intent
right
now
would
be
to
request
the
texas
transportation
commission
for
strategic
priority
or
category
12
funds,
and
so
those
are
funds
that
are
at
the
discretion
of
the
commissioners
that
are
appointed
to
the
txdot
commission
and
that
right
now
would
be
the
target.
That
would
be
the
request.
U
U
That
we're
working
with,
if
you
guys,
are
interested
in
that
and
again
there
is
cat
12
tech.
Laredo
has
a
benefit
of
being
by
the
border,
so
is
all
is
also
eligible
for
tbi
and
writer
11b
border
funds,
but
I
think
melissa
is
correct
if,
if
you
all
can
show
a
joint
union
and
money
being
brought
to
the
table,
that's
going
to
make
this
project
a
lot
more
attractive
at
this
time.
Obviously
I
cannot
commit
text
out
to
money,
but
I
think
that's
the
right
approach
that
that
you're
undertaking.
T
T
That
are
looking
towards
improving
transportation
in
this
part
of
laredo
and
and
telling
txdot.
You
know,
we've
come
together
as
a
community.
Please
consider
leveraging
this
project
again.
You
know
public
private
partnerships
are
happening.
You
know
all
over
texas,
all
over
the
u.s
it'd
be
a
really
great
opportunity
to
bring
that
type
of
innovative
financing
to
lurata.
B
B
B
A
Yes,
sir,
well,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
very
much
to
the
rma.
Thank
you,
melissa,
jason
for
participating
and
thank
you
alberto
with
txdot.
If
you
want,
you
can
go
ahead
and
sign
off
unless
you
want
to
stick
around
for
the
rest
of
the
meeting.
We
just
have
one
more
item
but
but
feel
free
to
sign
off,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
K
N
N
Homeowner
associations
are
are
very
different
from
neighborhood
associations.
Homeowner
associations
require
a
fee,
they
have
authority
to
seize
your
property.
If
you
don't
pay
your
fees
or
or
you
don't
meet
the
the
city,
the
neighborhood
requirements
and
things
like
that,
neighborhood
association
has
nothing
to
do
with
that,
and
so
that
was
a
point
of
confusion.
I
think
early
on
when
we
had
this
conversation
and
so.
A
N
So
anyway,
long
story
short,
is
we
then
moved
on
as
a
commission
and
voted
unanimous
unanimously
to
adopt
to
propose
a
city
ordinance
to
the
city
of
laredo
to
to
decide.
But
at
that
time
we
had
a
planning
department
that
was
not
very
comfortable
with
the
neighborhood
association,
and
so
when
it
left
our
commission,
it
didn't
get
the
enthusiasm
and
the
and
the
support
that
we
as
a
commission
had
directed
the
planning
department
to
to
do
at
that
time.
N
N
You
know
where
we
are
in
terms
of
implementing
the
comp
plan
where
we
are
on
recode
laredo
and
then
at
that
time,
and
in
that
context
talk
about
neighborhood
associations
and
talk
about
how
they're
a
critical
part
of
the
implementation
of
that
comp
plan,
and
so
that,
then
we
can
have
a
coordinated,
organize
and
speak
in
a
clear
voice
with
our
recommendation
to
city
council.
On
this
point.
F
A
A
The
challenge,
however,
though,
is
that
that
is
not
it's
not
something
that
the
planning
commission
would
oversee.
It's,
not
a
development
related
issue.
It's
that's
for
obviously
for
our
existing
neighborhoods.
That
already
there
it'd
be
something
for
the
community
development
department
and
the
challenge
right
now
is
that
that
to
put
that
program
in
place-
and
I've
been
a
part
of
that
program
in
in
other
cities,
that
does
require
staff
it
requires
it
requires
additional
staff
that
that's
not
just
something
easy
to.
Do.
A
I
mean
it's,
not,
yes,
it's
a
grassroots
thing,
but
there
is
some
organization,
that's
required,
and
I
don't
know
how
how
much
you've
kept
up
with
the
current
situation
right
now
with
the
city,
but
it's
it's
very
serious.
We're
looking
at
a
25
million
dollar
deficit,
we're
looking
at
at
cuts
and
and
possibly
even
furloughs
in
the
future,
so
so
the
prospect
of
adding
staff
to
put
together
this
program
is
going
to
be
difficult,
not
impossible,
but
difficult
right
now,
however,
for
the
future,
that's
something
that
the
comp
plan
says.
A
N
So
so
maybe
it
is
premature
or
not
the
appropriate
time
to
talk
about
the
neighborhood
associations,
but
we
did.
We
did
send
a
a
proposed
ordinance
to
the
city
to
vote
on
and
it
was
never
brought
before
the
city
to
vote
on
it.
I
guess
because
of
some
of
the
reasons
you're
talking
about,
I'm
not
sure,
and
so
that's
something
that
I
think
was
important
to
us
and
we
we
would
like
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
sort
of
what
happened
after
it
left
our
our
recommendation
stage.
I.
A
Right
now,
yeah
yeah
I'll
look
into
it
for
you,
but
my
guess
would
be
that
the
planning
commission
has
a
set
of
responsibilities
in
the
charter
and
in
the
ordinance,
and
it's
meant
to
be
for
development
related
stuff.
In
other
words,
the
environmental
committee
for
the
city
isn't
looking
at
isn't
looking
at
the
same
stuff.
The
planning
commission
is
and
and
to
me
I'll,
look
into
that.
But
to
me
the
planning
commission
probably
shouldn't
be
sending
recommendations
on
things
that
are
for
existing
neighborhood.
A
You
know
programs,
quality
of
life,
things
and
but
I'll
check
into
that,
and-
and
the
other
reason
I
said
about
the
staffing
is
because,
if
you're
going
to
do
this
program
right,
you
can't
just
say:
hey
we're
going
to
do
a
neighborhood
association.
You
have
to
manage
it.
You
have
to
organize.
The
city
has
to
be
there
to
facilitate
this,
and
if
they're
not
it
won't
happen,
it
won't
be
successful.
So
I
think
it's
a
good
thing.
F
N
Yeah,
and
also-
and
also
you
know
so,
curry
I
I
I
mean-
I
guess
you
know
we
would,
I
guess
I
would
prefer
legal
to
give
us
a
description
of
that,
because
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
neighborhood.
Associations
do
play
a
role
in
development.
The
way
that
neighborhoods
are
developing.
You
know
projects
for
infield
development
projects.
For
you
know,
you
know
how
to
improve
property
values
within
the
neighborhoods.
N
It
came
from
this
from
from
us.
It
didn't
exist
before
before
we
got
it
and
we
added
it
to
it,
and
so
I
don't
necessarily
agree
with
your
view
of
what
you're
saying,
and
so,
if
that's
a
point
of
contention,
then
yeah,
I
guess
maybe
we
should
have
a
legal
opinion
on
that
and
that's
fine,
but
what
I
would
prefer
is
to
have
a
workshop
and
kind
of
walk
through
what
are
some
of
the
issues
moving
forward.
Now
again,
I
understand
the
budget
issues.
N
So
I'm
not
saying
it's
a
big
priority
at
this
point,
but
I
think
it's
something
that
was
important.
I
think
that
especially
at
a
time
like
this,
when
you
know
we
we
are
independent,
we
would
like
to
have
a
mechanism
where
we
can
have
the
city
communicate
directly
to
neighborhood
associations
that
then
can
disseminate
information
to
their
neighborhoods.
You
know
and
keep
people
informed
so
anyway,
with
that
said,.
A
Yes,
sir,
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
each
one
of
you
for
the
time
that
you
volunteer
to
participate
in
the
planning
commission,
you
don't
get
paid
for
your
service
as
a
planning.
Commissioner,
you
do
this
as
a
volunteer
and
it
does
make
a
difference.
It
makes
an
impact
on
on
the
city.
So
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
we
appreciate
it
very
much.
Is
there
anything
any
feedback
you
want
to
give
to.