City of Laredo, Texas Planning & Zoning Commission, 18 Jul 2019

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Planning and Zoning Committee Meeting 07/18/19

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5:59 and I'm calling this meeting to order first end of the we have is a roll call. Please that's mr. Herman.

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Hey that's convenient present: what's it his County Lotus George, Michael hammer present, lovely young young ones, present Louisville, president of San Luis, Valley n wingus present for the record. Mr. shermin, you do have Warren.

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Thank you I know that committee member dais contacted me that he is still working. He has conference calls into the evening. He will not be able to attend, I know a little, and they also contacted me that he is out of talent and that's the only ones that I know that has to be excused. Do you have any other set has to be excused I. Do not all right make a more motion to set the.

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Commotion to excuse the creatures.

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Motion a second that motion and a second all those in favor aye. One of the things that I do want to say before we move on is that I think we need to and I'm going to go ahead and put this on on you Kirby, maybe send a memo out I think it's very important for the commissioners to understand the responsibility.

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I know we discussed this about training and everything at the last meetings, but you know it's very, very important that everybody knows that it is a person third and they all know that and that they try to work your schedule, if possible, I realize that sometimes work dictates. But you know it is important for us and we have quorums all the time we are.

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The ones that are in the forefront of the development is coming to this community, and certainly the last thing we need to do is not be forums, and you know slow down the process. It's already a lengthy process and it is an expensive process for a lot of developers and anything we can do to make sure that everybody here on the board. I mean everybody.

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That's here pretty much understands the role, but I want to make sure that everybody's totally aware that this is a very important committee because we do approve the development is going forth and certainly any delays are costly to anyone.

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Thank you I just want to say that I'll support that member until mr. Sherman was it. Yes, sir.

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Thank you. Thank you for my sir. Can everybody stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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And we have consideration in the minutes of June the 6th end of June 20th.

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Determine I move that we approve the minutes of the June 6th and June 20th corrective minutes said.

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Motion and second all those in favor aye motion carries. Thank you. The next item that we have is citizens comments. Do we have any citizens comes at this time? Not all right. Thank you. All right. First item. You have is item 6a all right item. 6A is public hearing and recommendation of an ordinance amending the zoning ordinance map, the city doriga by rezoning block for lock to lock port block to sunny Cedar Park subdivision located at 3:13 Crossroads Street from before to an M 1. This is a public hearing.

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The staff supports this particular zone change. This is a public hearing. Anybody who wishes to speak in favour of this item in favour of this item.

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Letter in favor, thank you.

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And soft engineering favor thank you. I.

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Have questions just a real quick? Why are you saying change it to m1 I know. Is that it's vacant you have a proposed warehouse coming up. Yes, what.

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Happens is the same owner owns lots three and four, and one of them is already zoned that one and the one that we're trying to change m1 is Curzon as before, and his his tax base is all it's all squirrely because of it. So.

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Wants to keep it consistent. Okay, thank.

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Anybody else who wishes to speak in favor in favor of the some change in favor.

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Anybody who wishes to speak against this own change against the zone change, if not what.

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Are the wishes of the Commission I moved to cause public hearing and support staff recommendation for some change? Second,.

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Motion- and we have a second all- those in favor signify by saying aye aye. All those against motion carries. Thank you very much. Next item we have is item 6b. This is a public hearing and recommendation of an ordinance amending, there's only known as map for the season or a towbar rezoning lot. 5B block 575 Eastern Division, located at 10:07 East Saunders street from ab32 B for the proposed uses a Paint and Body Shop. The staff does not support the recommendation. This is a public hearing. Do we have any updates.

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You can we have a motion to table no motion table motion. Do we have a second second and a second all those in favor, aye I, know she carries. The next item is item succeed, public hearing and recommendation of an ordinance amending the zoning ordinance map for the city laredo by considering a special use permit for oil and gas extractions productions.

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This is approximately 0.8 32 for a cruzada portion. 38 abstract for 72 the proposed use is obviously to plug a and abandoner oh well, the this is 8. The staff supports, obviously the recommendation. This is a public hearing. Anybody who wishes to speak in favour of this item in favor of this item. Mr.

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Chairman there's also an update on those items. Cmd.

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Applicant requested two table dose items. They had an issue with a labeling up their wealth, C.

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And D table in.

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We move that we table item 6c and.

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6D well, first, we got a table one because I already open the public hearing. Oh sorry about that.

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So book a I moved up the table item 6c ii ii ii ii. All those.

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In favor aye all right now we can have motion on item 6.

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D move that we table item 6d, good ii and ii.

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Ii, all those in favor aye, you know before we move on I'm gonna, make a comment to our planning director as we're going through Latin development code. I think that a special use permit for plug in a well should just be a permit and I think we should consider that when we go through our you know, land development code- III- don't see if necessary, for them to come in here and get a special use. Permit I see no purpose that it would show at all with.

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This update, we're gonna, be going through and reviewing every single one of our special use permits and conditional use permits and doing away with as many of those as we can.

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It was a practice many decades ago to as a easy way to patch the code to just okay, we'll make that a special use permit, but many cities that recognize that this very problematic and there's some legal issues as well with special use permits, so better practice is to either permit something or not permit it right and that's the direction we'll be moving as we review it. Good.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank You mr. chairman recommendation. Next.

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Item we have is a public hearing recommendation of an ordinance. A minute is only an ordinance map, the similar, a doe by rezoning law to block 14 33 Eastern Division, located at 24 13 Santa Clara Street from on r32 a b3. The proposed uses an auto mechanic shop and the staff does not support the following. Are there any updates? No.

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This is a public hearing. Anybody who wishes to speak in favor in favor of the zone, change.

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Anybody wish to speak in favour of the zone, change.

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Yes well come up, I was in the back up and.

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That's it so nobody follicle at you I mean I'll, understand what okay. It's.

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That uh followed with.

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When you think you.

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Didn't I, you did say: okay get in the team put in integrity. What what rhinos to see, because it appears owner.

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Questions mr. chairman I think that I really think that a special use permit would be more appropriate for this particular item would have an r3 area and we're gonna we're bringing this to a to a b3. Rather it's it's a big change from our 312 III.

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We are opening to creating a business song that once they decide not to have the mechanic shop, they that sewing can become something else in an impact: the community. What what was the the the area around and I think we can see great, but inside.

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Is in proximity to other commercial, but the block that it's on is all residential. So if you can imagine it's a block like this and this lot there, everything else is residential and that's block, but there's some commercial over here you.

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See and that's that's.

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Concern that our house and we're repeating a product that will affect the community around it. Mr. Chairman I feel that, even though he's been there for four years, I mean that doesn't make him that it's something that that that would be appropriate for that particular area. Well,.

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You know, and and and I appreciate, your comment, but I am looking at the zoning map right now, yeah b3 right in front. You have B 3 a lot down from him. It's all b3, the street that it's close to you know is mostly p3 on both sides and he's been there for years. I, don't know if he got caught with zoning or zoning issue. Imagine you got cyber Oh Stella. They don't know mm-hmm stay with Sonia officers better need the.

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Warning a warning.

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All right, okay, any questions for this individual, okay,.

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And this error at all got.

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On Brad stay.

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In those laws that they did to prepare that sun glasses, no.

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No, we were not in a lot of trouble, no senior.

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Okay, let me ask you on citation was: was it a citation due to the fact that there was parking out in the street and work mean they're not of the Polly graduate? What was that part of it or not? The.

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Citation was because he's operating mechanic shop for a residential district.

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But it wasn't anything happening they didn't. Did he specify that you know he was working out of public right away, yeah.

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But there's vehicles picture on the right away: okay,.

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Okay, then it might be more popular as you all deem it that it would be as positional use to see if he can comply with any rules that are applied by the city. But again, that's what would happen.

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Mr. Sherman is that we don't wouldn't really have a survey that actually shows us how the the buildings are said. What are the same facts, however? Is there any parking? Is there any any way that doing mechanical? If you do it were there, you could do in service its does. He have any any axis for left for the truck to pick up the oil and so on and so forth.

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I think before we move into a me tree, we should we should look at a better option for the community, not for him in particular, and I think that a special use permit on this particular time would be more appropriate for that area. Maybe uh maybe we can. We can go ahead and refer it to staff in hold on any citation until he come back with a special use permit, he can put. We had been doing it for four years.

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We continue using the at the area as it is provided that he does all the other proper steps to bring it in to move him to illegal and sony live as a no special use permit day. So that's all the question. I have I'm ready to make.

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Yes, you, unless anybody else has any questions for the gentleman.

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Given that he's been there I think conditional news, obviously, would be one that maybe might solve an issue, but it's all depending on whether he can accommodate all the traffic inside his property, because that is all you know, the big probably it's always a mechanic shop is always the issue that it spills out into public right away and that's usually the neighbors are the ones that have problem that it's probably best. If and maybe, I'll explain it to this gentleman that we table this and get back to staff and maybe.

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They can work it out. Question your staff. I do know some staff comments. Number three does a CHP. The proposed use may be appropriate, but y'all haven't verified whether he meets this.

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And make sure that it meets their requirements.

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Mr. chairman, yes and of course, I'm exceptionally pro-business and people that are industrious like this I I find it you know admirable but give you by-product or residential property. And then you quietly set up business I'm, just a little bit conflicted about that. That and.

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And you know you're right about that. I think that's why yeah issue might be if he accepts to take table this items in the bag and let him see if he can comply with a conditional use permit, for everything is contained, mean that he's been there for years if it can't be contained and then becomes a stay person doable.

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Now, if we table the angle, I make.

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A comment before yes make a motion: I would ask that you not table this item but that you not approve it, and what we'll do is we'll he'll come back and do a conditional use permit and we'll apply his fees that he spent towards a conditional use permit.

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But we no need to table this because it's not coming back. If you don't agree with it, instead he'd be making application for conditional use permit and then you'd have the chance to review that. But.

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Once you table correct me, if I'm wrong once we, you know not approve this particular zone change, he has two.

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Has a right to counsel offensive I know.

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But normally, when you have a zone change that is denied, you have to wait six months before you reapply her. Is that changed no.

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Hasn't changed, so that's the only dilemma. That's why I was but.

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He wouldn't be applying for his own change. He just be applying for a conditional use. Permit.

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Isn't that correct or see applying for us, it would be request.

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Morgan's, that has to be done. If the Commission request denied, then he can appeal to council.

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Tables the item he can go back to to zoning in her right well,.

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Excuse me, then, I was in directing and how hungry is correct. Okay, I'm not always right I'll. Let them know.

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And that's fine I mean that's we're all human. Well, even so, I would recommend that we table that I, send it back to staff and see if, like I said it may not come back, the conditional use items do not get met.

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She wanted to close it, just we need to, but I don't think you've asked for that was against. Yet no I have.

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Not good! Okay! That's! Yes! Okay! All right! This is still a public hearing. Anybody who wishes to speak against his own change against his own change.

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Okay, mr. Buckley, a question to staff in particular, so we see that the letters who is it say: I've changed pages. 16 letters went out. That's.

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Thank you and nobody responded. Zero.

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Is it? Is it a signature required to, or is it just to the mailbox and that's it.

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It's something they'd have to state their opinion. No.

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What I'm saying is that you you're mailing it with a return, receipt or or gem at your request. No just regular mail do.

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Either man up it's a regular me alive. Okay, all right, very good and, as you can see on your your community, the 200-foot radius outlines a number lots of it. Impacts. I see this yes,.

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All right, what are the wishes of the commercial close, the public hearing and.

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Tabled the item, so I would like a compliment, real quick that that he is that he any finding is hope. It's help that he's not fine again until he comes back within the six months for new yard, for the conditional use permit. That will allow a mr. Sherman to have to work there. I, don't really know if that he's letting livelihood so I want to close them down by doing on the emotional beat probes only here and that table the iron okay.

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Close public hearing table the I do not not for six months or not whether it's six months just table the item and let them work it out with Sam kids.

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When it's time certain it's up to them when they're ready, they will come back to that. Yes, the Commission well.

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Right now, I.

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If you take time, sir.

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As it really has to come back done, is this table of time certain within four weeks? Obviously we don't want the.

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Yeah Wilkins with thirty days so.

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We do forty thirty days.

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Okay, so his motion is into table the item.

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Yes, I'm sorry, Cory I've recommend as the applicant how long they're they can do this term. That way, they understand it's coming the commitments coming from them. If they're gonna say thirty days, though they'll make it happen or longer if they think they need it to create this site plan. For this.

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Condition, let me ask this from staff: if you sent this back, that's assuming tonight under the normal process of reapplying, let's say for conditional use. The timeframe would be about thirty days to get it back to the Commission. It's.

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Up to the applicant okay.

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Sometimes they don't have the ability to.

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The same token of us: if you table the item and we leave it hanging, then it becomes an issue. You know he doesn't have to come back thirty days.

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Yes, sir okay, so we have a motion to table the item and they must come back to the Commission within 30 days. One.

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Less common business, Shawn Kirby, if, if you're taking consideration but we're not just trying to shoehorn it to pass, it needs to be this containment, that's been mentioned, but it doesn't. This automatically become a negative impact to the neighborhood. So we expect some commentary from you when it comes back, even if it is to the CFE. Yes,.

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Are conditions that will be put on that and that's why they will work with the conditions that you know to see if it works it may not work I, don't know, but at least it gives you an opportunity I'm not having to wait six months where you get shut down and then has to come back their placards already again. Okay, thank you, sir. So we do have a motion. Do we have a second second and second, all those in favor say aye aye.

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Anybody against data motion carries somebody who please inform gentlemen of widgets transpires, I'm, not sure if he understood we.

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Just did oh thank you, Michael real, quick mr. chef. Yes, this particular item that came to forints there was there was nothing that showed us the type of structures or the location and for me in particular and I. Think for the board is very important that we know what's on that particular property when, when they're, asking Porter for an hour on its own chain, being that it was residential and it was used for mechanical I mean there was nothing that would come us.

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Do no photos attached, obvious I didn't see any form of you that that can give us a better interviewer to what we're doing are we affecting the community of.

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The affected, though we did have an aerial, but it's kind of hard to figure it out. You see rooftops I mean.

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Kind of art that was, we had a 3e where you could swing. It then, would be okay.

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Could I comment on that? Yes,.

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We are working on.

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Format of both what we're, giving and also how we're presenting so we're hoping to present a little more graphically so that not only you get the privilege of reading the packet, but so the public understand and understands why we're making the recommendation.

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We do it now, I think it's difficult for the public, sometimes difficult for the commissioners to understand the logic behind the recommendation, because we're not hearing a formal presentation that doesn't mean it has to be long. We could take you through a few slides and show you some pictures we took out if you've noticed your packet was a lot lighter. Yes,.

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We're just giving you the essential and if you want more by all means contact us, we will get you as much information as you request from us, but the default is not going to be pages and pages and pages. We're gonna give you the essential. So we don't waste your time. You know exactly what to look at and then the chance that you actually thoroughly review is higher yeah and we do have pictures to share.

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If you ask oh, you can show you some more now we may not always unless you ask us to, then we can, if we feel it's very important or pertinent, and we will go and take pictures, but that's not gonna be our default. We want to keep keep it's fun and.

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Thanks good and I appreciate, you know the way you streamlined the agenda. I think it it's very nice I was very pleased. We, you know not having to go through tons of pages. We got to the essentials. Pretty quick and I was evil easy to review the agenda. Thank you all right. Moving right along the next item. We have a success.

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It's a public hearing, recommendation of an ordinance amending the zoning ordinance of the city of Loyd of Arizona, approximately thirteen point, two two zero three acres described by meets and bounds, and and is located south of highway 59 and east of Papua lick loop from be three two before the proposed use is a commercial plaza with possible restaurants serving alcohol or a bar. The staff does not support the following its own change. This is a public hearing. Anybody who wishes to speak in favor of the zone, change in favor.

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Good evening, mr. chairman commissioners, snide mental and staff killing development, Orlando Police with for the record, and we are in favor of the zone, change, do.

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Anybody have any questions for mr. Ortiz from the Commission club I.

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Have a question.

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Why are you changing this.

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Is our third zone change from week three to before along Luke 20? Originally we had resumed or zone these areas, VIII's the law change or the ordinance change several years ago from if you're doing a commercial subdivision or a shopping center, and if you want to do a wink, stop for a buffalo, wild wings or chilies or Cheddar's, or anything to that effect or a hospital you'd have to go to a bee floor or you'd have to get a special use. Permit and you'll see.

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We have a case hearing right now after this, that is requiring one of our commercial units to go for SGP, there's more in a neighborhood Spenny. So you know we. We wouldn't changed this before, because you're off Delmar. In this case we do have two highways and a major arterial.

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You question of your stuff: all right staff doesn't recommend, but it does mean the property does face. Highway, 59, which is highway and all they're doing is their particular reason other than the carpet I mean.

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It does not conform with the comprehensive plan for the future land use in all that area. East Luke, 20.

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If I can add to.

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That the issue is not just where the traffic goes, but also its adjacency to residential, and we are like I, said going to go through the recode. You know we're Rico, Laredo and looking at our how we have something whether it's permitted or not, and we're gonna have a better plan going forward, but currently we we know that they can still get what they need through. A special use.

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Permit may not be the effective way and we're looking at how to change that, but the way the reason special use permits were put in place for VIII's to have alcohol licenses for specifically because they're issues when businesses when p3 was allowed to have liquor licenses and they were next to residential. Now it can be your determination whether or not you actually feel that this is adjacent enough. Maybe it's not, maybe because the traffic is going a different way.

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Maybe you feel this case doesn't permit, but as staff we are more bound to follow the rule. That's what we're recommending were looking at the way the ordinance was written to the decision, City Council made and we're sending our recommendation to be in line with how we feel the ordinance is written. But there is room if you, if you think this doesn't really count as adjacent and there's not going to be significant impact to the surrounding residential.

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If I remember this property I believe there's a Creek on the west side of this property, that kind of be a buffer to who, residential being that it is on a highway hue, major materials.

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We people code specifically states that anything that is on a highway or major material as it permitted code and I'm, not sure of this particular land-use got caught in a situation when the coast got changed from v3, which is a highest intense use to be for, but being that this is a 13 acre tract that will be developed, it seems to me that you know they're they're applying for a zone that may help obviously foster growth. My.

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Maintenance for seven one of the we're trying to bring to our Celia Dorito, the most entertainment and good food that we can out there. So one of the UH one of the reasons that some some of the investor, at least in ways that once they look at the math Laredo, they look that used to be three and they notice that some of the ordinances it will need to create a a conditional special use permit to bring a restaurant.

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So that's an additional headache and it's a deterrent because some of the investor they look at it and they say well. This I would rather just go to McAllen together before or that before exists. So I feel that that it is appropriate for us to grant the before. So we can attract that the investors can market better, that particular area and we can attract businesses that are that are gonna benefit, not only the investor but also the community itself. Ok, let.

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Me just ask staff one question: now there were 65 notes to send out. Do we have any updates on that? We.

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Received one in a 1-1 against want to favor one one: okay,.

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All right, this is a public hearing to anybody who wish to speak in favour of his own change in favor of his own change.

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Anybody who wishes to speak against his own change against his own change and not what are the wishes of the Commission's I'll make.

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A motion to amend the ordinance and and get there before us requested by the yah by.

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The owner, we have a motion, do we have a second seconds and a second all, those in favor aye? Those opposed motion carries. Thank you.

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Next item is a public hearing amending the zoning ordinance of the city Laredo by rezoning, approximately 0.5 to 37 acres further described it meets imbalance and is located at the southeast corner of compass and Bob bulik loop from b3 to be for the proposed uses, commercial plasma, possible restaurant serving alcohol and the staff does not support this. This is a public hearing. Anybody who wishes to speak in favor of his own change in favor.

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Good evening to lock up these for the record and with Killam development and we're in favor of the zone, change yes,.

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Peace hold on police it if I meant to ask it about the other one, so I'm doing this so very little bit. So the big concern is that once you approve it to before that, of course anything that's before is allowed in and and where it says. It's of course proposed isn't an obligation on your part, but this is a commercial plaza like a shopping center at.

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Me a shopping center with a restaurant in it, maybe the wing stop or anything that might serve beer or alcohol. Okay, but.

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This, but this is a an active plan like.

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This already is, or have the flexibility. Sir I mean it just as I don't know who's mentioning it up. Here is just you know having to come back and you'll see. We have attendant in one of our centers and again I.

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Don't propose to change this to before, because it really isn't a neighborhood right, but you know they're already spending money, remodeling now they're having to come and get a special use permit and that's it is what it is right, but it just deters business and, and it eliminates our opportunities at the end of the day, I see.

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That and of course, the location doesn't give me any pause, I'm just trying to go through so.

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Again, this is like the third one: we've done, because we've been and again we did it. We did them v3, because we thought that was gonna be what we needed. Obviously, that changed and now we're coming back and kind of cleaning them up. I'm.

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Certain that that's true, but as one asks death, etcetera, the beat that Bennett. Yes,.

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The lady can we explain it is accurate. Okay,.

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A beat three zone alcohol is allowed, but you have to get a special use. Permit now is the process is arduous.

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No we're looking at the us before, and we told you about 30 days to go through that process and the expense is not great, but it does present risk what, if they weren't together, and so oh they're in the business of developing and they've got investors looking at these things and any risk you add is going to you know- may have an impact on whether or not a development goes forward. So we understand the position where they're coming from now.

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The challenge is like, and Drina pointed out once you go to a B for not only do you well now that solves their problem of not having to apply for a special use permit to get a liquor license, but it opens a new potential and that is off the deal, doesn't work or or maybe, if it's in their best interest, you could develop something of higher intensity there. If you look at that list that were listed, you know like an auto body repair or a nightclub, a saloon, a waste, recycle collection.

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Now, some of this, the challenge is, is the way our zones are written. The way you know, maybe one thing we need to look at is just permitting alcohol permits or excuse me, alcohol licenses in b3. Then they wouldn't, we wouldn't have to go to a higher intensity use for them to get so we're going through that process.

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We're going to you know, look at these things, but but currently what it, what they're, what they're proposing to do is go to a higher intensity use so that it can not have to do a special use permit and a step. That's why we're recommending and.

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To that point, b3 used to be able to do that right. Then.

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There were changes because.

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Of some of the nightclubs that were happening and again we got penalized right, I mean yeah. We've been developing this community for 40 years right and you mostly know the type of development we do that this is now given us some pause because of the inflexibility that it provides, and that's all we're just trying to make sure we have that flexibility to do our development way. We'd like to right. If not, we would have left it at b3. You know for.

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The record it's a if it was not on the highway. Mr. chairman, then I would probably have an issue with that, but those properties are highway, merge right, front issue, so yeah I, don't think that we have so.

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Like Domar I mean.

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But here we do have that flexibility, and these are a bunch of little ones, but we look at it as a whole development from highway 59 all the way to Clark Boulevard, so there'll.

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Up usually take into consideration like when you'e, but the residents that you sort of create some sort of noise buffer to where.

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They would think you have to put at least a 7-foot opaque business. That's.

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Written and and other set, but I'm obviously are but yeah I mean there's the typical setbacks.

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Because there's a residential, it's.

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Something that's specific to that: I! Don't.

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Believe before it has anything different than what you would do and be three or be one, its 20-foot, typically from ten on the sides and 20 on the frogs, is.

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It 20 or 25 in back 25, okay, it could be. Oh, it's 10 a little before that on commercial. Now, only five in the front in the back well,.

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Mr. Steinman, so here's just something that I'm under plate also that, if you're going to a but be please be forced to a residential that foot surgery doesn't sound reasonable and helps in your backyard neighbor. Is it whatever something that serves big wall? Well, some Pete's, not that big, seven yeah seven feet than ten feet on the other side, they're still in anyway, I wouldn't I wouldn't be happy with that. Certainly I'm really saying so as you're rethinking how this all looks. We need woody to look at that to keep.

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In mind, the comprehensive plan actually has.

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Contemplates these commercial uses in areas with residential and narrower streets and stuff like that, and we actually are looking forward to working with mr. Schneider and Mabel architects in order to try to make sure it fits with development practices and works out well for our community. Well,.

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We appreciate that you know, as I said, I'm learning and and we're not trying to be naive here, but I'm kind of and like you know, you have area lights and all of a sudden, your old houses lit up, because that's what yeah that Sun, it's really uncool, there's a simple way to say it. So if there's a way to engineer that to not be able to happen, whether it be professional courtesies, of course, we'd expect that sort of piece or by design in the code yeah.

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There is well first I want to say, I hope you always feel free to ask as many questions as you need to to come to a good decision.

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Secondly, there is one more layer, Cold War, working with commercial and that's a site plan. We get a look at some of these issues. We don't with residential, is a little different with the zoning and how it's approved, but commercial comes in. There is a site plan approval process where we take an account, those kind of considerations, and there may be issues all right. Thank you. Thank you.

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Anybody who wishes to be in favor in favor.

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All right anybody who would speak against his own change against his own change, if not.

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What are the wishes of the Commission move that we close the public hearing and approve a.

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Zone change all right. Okay, we have a motion in a second all those in favor, aye aye. Those against motion carries. Thank you.

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The next item is a public hearing amending the zoning ordinance of the city boy by rezoning approximately two point: one: nine three acres: it's located at the southeast corner of Romulus driver Bob, Bullock Luke from b32. Before and again this is a commercial plaza possibility with a restaurant that sells alcohol. The staff does not support this change. This is a public hearing. Anybody who wishes speak in favor in favor.

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Good evening drew on Dorothy's with come development for the record and we're in favor of this home change. Thank.

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You anybody else who wishes to speak in favor in favor.

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Anybody who wishes to speak against against his own jingling.

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Okay, not what are the wishes of the Commission.

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More that we close public hearing and approve the zone change taken.

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And second, all those in favor signify by saying aye aye. Those against motion carries. Thank you. The next item is a public hearing amending the zoning ordinance of the City of Laredo by rezoning approximately sixty four point: three five zero one acres located at the southeast corner of Fairfield driver involved will accrue from be 354 from I'm. Sorry me, B 3 and our 1, a 2, B, 4 and again same use proposed commercial plaza and the staff does not support, don't change. There was sixty six letters send out. Do we have any updates? We.

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Have one in one one.

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In one all right, okay, this is a public hearing. Anybody who wishes to speak in favor of the zone, change in favor.

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Of these for killing development, for the record in favor of this unchanged, thank you.

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It's this very last question: this is just continuing down without how it is yeah.

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Okay, all right there.

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Are several streets in between the right right.

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But just same side of the objects in the same look in the same business, same area.

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Mr. chairman I'd like to make a correction I said earlier today that the rear of your setback was 10. It's actually 24 before okay.

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Thank you. Okay. Yes,.

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It's it's 10 feet for v3, but for beef or it's 2020, that's 2 per.

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Planning Commission.

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Fine, okay, but we'll admit: okay, the.

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Motions grinding before I have.

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A motion: do we have a second second? Second, all those in favor signify by saying aye, aye.

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Against nobody's against Oh motion carries next item is item 6j.

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This is a public hearing amending the zoning ordinance of the City of Toronto by rezoning lot 1 block 7 in Ponderosa Hill subdivision unit, one located at 51, 19 Fairfield drive from ro 2, B, 4 and again the proposed users, commercial, the staff- that's not support to the following- does own change.

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This is a public hearing. Anybody who wishes to speak in favor in favor.

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All right anybody wish to speak in favour of the zone, change.

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Your liabilities with killing development for the record and we're in favor of the zone change we.

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A quick question: uh there is an existing building on the right now. I'm sorry, is there any there's an.

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Existing building- yes, sir, yes, sir, so, yes, there is it we own it. We had originally sold this property for the Elks Lodge and hence the reason it was in our Oh, and so now that we own it one day we will it into the entire area. Okay,.

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But right now you've got created a residential area. What does the land use plan call for this area? Well, this particular structures that is.

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The same neighborhood, a neighborhood single-family.

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Or multifamily, or what the.

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Future, let you.

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For residential residential, so.

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We've got a commercial building that is on the site that is gonna, be surrounded by residential.

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On that side of the road you see, I see the challenges it puts it's surrounded by the commercial track right for Fairfield to the south.

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Is there built to the South Fairfield yeah.

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The whole area, no okay, what.

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Lens I'm, sorry just to clarify the land. That's surrounding the the red diagonal line isn't was already all before who's.

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Has changed to do with the item? You just approve.

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Idea, mr. shim is what I see there is that, eventually they want to incorporate everything to be able to offer what would might become a a mall in the future. Large commercial development.

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Okay. Thank you. This is a public hearing, anybody who is speaking favor in favor. Anybody who wish to speak against to Tom James against his own change.

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Have a won this one question? Yes, so why are these taken individually? Why do this one big memory Jamie before change, because their individual threats.

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You can't cross the street right, so you each one has have their own legal description. It would be preferable to be able to do them all in one, but in this case you have to get a legal description for each parcel, because it's a program.

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This case for those two tracks, one it's product and the other one is not even though they're contiguous.

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That's why there's several applications all right? Thank you. Yeah.

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Right, what are the wishes of the Commission, most Punkie close public hearing and approved with some change request ii, education.

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Ii doubles in favor. All right, it was against. Motion carries Steinem. We have as a public hearing a many the zoning ordinance, the C Laredo by repealing ordinance, 2016 0, 0, 5 7 and authorizing the issuance of a special use permit for a restaurant serving alcohol. A lot one block one window: commercial subdivision located at 3402, O War, Boulevard, suite 220.

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This is a restaurant serving alcohol and the staff does not support the proposed special use. Permit.

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Is there the distance, oh I, remember now, there's a 3-foot: it's 197 feet instead of the 300, so the variance is 3 feet from the actual ordinance yeah. I can add. Northumberland, all right sure huh is that accurate yeah they measure did show us. What is that cozy? Yes, so it's.

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3 feet short and a 300 feet. Foot like this, that's the same reason stuff to death and did not support. They were general yeah SUV at that location because of the distance requirement on that evening, but.

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This particular site has had a special use permit.

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Expired was it two years well.

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They change business, it.

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Changed ownership is that what is the same ownership.

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Business, correct.

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Okay and it's easy to both so the property owners, the business. Okay, all.

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Right this is a public hearing. Anybody who wishes to speak in favor in.

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Rolando piece of chum development for the record and we are in favor of this zone- change. Okay,.

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Anybody else who wishes to speak in favor in favor, I.

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Have a question for Miss Dorothy, sorry to make you get up again, but what's there now it used to be a nice kitchen.

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These kitchen, it was a restaurant. Oh okay, I see so this. This Center has taught three amia also very.

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Good I got him so.

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They have you know they. They had to get a special use. Permit I.

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Understand and so there's on the on the end, that's closest to them. This.

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Is actually right in the mrs.

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Kent ology I remember now. Thank you all.

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Right anybody who wishes to speak against the zone change against this, only change if.

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Not what legislations understand and so I, of course, to approve this- it's already functioning in this in this capacity, but this isn't any kind of a of a lawsuit issue from the private sector and I thought in.

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Cases when it's this close all very good there I there is discretion for the Planning Commission and we can understand if that's the decision. First, as staff, our recommendation is very clearly looking at our ordinance is written okay, so they don't they don't for the reasons we signed it we're not recommending yeah. Let.

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Me ask if I remember correct: isn't there a 25-foot easement behind this property or something like that.

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I'm released for the record, there's actually a driveway, which is probably 25 feet and then there's a channel. That's probably drain.

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To the channel right, it's not 50 feet so before you get to any residential. That's my.

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People in your back yeah and then you got to go through the parking lot, because you have those single family lots out there at Alexander. They have one of the houses and then on the construction. There.

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Is the distance is more than the required 300 feet to get to the residential unit because of these others yeah.

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I remember when the flood came yes, the first time we require that there was that fresh water in dr. Raza, mr. Sherman, it's uh I think it's gonna be a good addition to that area. It's a it's! A restaurant, that's coming from from from government Radle and they serve cover decoy, Mexican, food and I think they would need to definitely need a liquor license because that's part of the that's right.

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Well, thank my time. Thank you. Anybody else wish to speak in favour in favor. Yes, sir,.

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And questions no gracias Austin. This is a public here and anybody else who wishes to speak in favor in favor.

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Anybody who wishes to speak against against.

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Alright and what are the wishes of the Commission I'll.

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Make a motion to close public hearing and support, especially you spending, looks.

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Like a motion and a second all, those in favor, aye I, was against motion carries thank you next item. They haven't item 7a and this is a preliminary consideration of the indeedy 35 Platt, the antennas industrial. Their proposed action is to approve, subject to the following comments from planning, water and utilities, and they noticed a developer.

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The engineer record: yes, sir.

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You use Johnny fashion and staff, JJ sat down with fellow consulting hear that state that we concur with all your comments. Okay, thank you. What.

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I apologize: what was your answer? Jj's antenna? Okay, and what's your capacity of in do representing their.

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Guineas? Yes, yes, yes, project manager, okay, Rick journalism,.

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That's it all right. Thank you. Wishes.

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Of the Commission, this is no longer public hearing, no we'll go to item seven. Eight ever.

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Motion do we have a second think it in a second all those in favor aye, carries next item. Is the final consideration of the platen of Loma that suit subdivision unit at 14 for a Family Dollar Store proposed action is approved.

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Good, okay, all right just clarify for the record. Thank you all right, so we do have a motion to approve and I get a second and a second all those in favor aye aye motion carries. Thank you. Next item is the final consideration of the Platypus Oriental sewer, subdivision phase 10, the antennas residential and the proposed action on this nineteen point: five: zero five one acre tract located west of cuatro, Vientos Road in Luke, 20 and north of is block Blanca younger Janka Bianca Ponce already see that Bianca Lane is 125 lot.

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Development is an or 1a zone and most actions approve motion motion in the second, all those in favor, aye aye motion carries all right, and the next item that we have is consideration of the El Retiro plan, the antennas industrial. This is a 10 acre tract located north of FM, 1472 and west of Copper Mine Road. The zoning for this one block development is m1 and Ag. I guess the question I have for this as part of this in the county. Actually.

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If I may, this was one of the annotations that was just approved last month, so to bring it into the city Mariah. Okay,.

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It was part of why it's a porcelain, worn in Ag that.

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Is correct, yeah, it just came in as an annexation and the next ation so he's.

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Gonna have to come back and resolve the AG later on, how much of.

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The ten acres is of Ag I want to say it's a color change in here about three acres and it's.

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Those herself an engineer we are currently also in the process of the rezone okay,.

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So how much of the ten acres is right now, AG, I.

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Believe it's six point. Three, perhaps maybe five point three. It was about my.

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Hands are heavy.

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All right, thank you all right. What are the wishes of the Commission motion to approve? Second motion? The second, all those in favor aye motion carries motion to adjourn. Oh wait, I'm, sorry, Kirby director's reporting well,.

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Again, I want to say and I've said to some of y'all individually. Thank you for your service, you're volunteering. In this position. You don't get paid. We feed you. Some meager food beforehand push themselves there a little healthier this time around. Well, we really mean that. Can we say that, thank you. So many of our we're all trying to lose a little bit. We for.

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You I actually miserable.

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I really do when we say this, we mean it. We really do appreciate your service, and there are so many members of our community serving on committees and commissions and some require more time than others and.

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Is a big time commitment, and so that is some of the motivations behind trying to make sure this runs smoothly, making sure we give you essentially what you need and not more and being being very respectful of your time, so I just want to say thank you and I appreciate the opportunity to and to do that. Thank you all.

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Right, that's nectar ocean, clear second motion: the second all those in favor aye motion carries. Thank you all very much.