City of Laredo, Texas Planning & Zoning Commission, 22 Mar 2019

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Planning and Zoning Committee Meeting 032119

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Good afternoon, this is a medium of the Planning and Zoning Commission, and it is neat few minutes after 6 o'clock and we're gonna go ahead and get started. First item that we have on the agenda is roll call. Please, yes,.

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Mr. chairman, hey Naz from Gideon present surprising Apple influence George pickle hammer. Welding present joining advice present present opens Jorge amigas present for the record. Mr. Sherman chairman, you have four thank.

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You I did get a call from Commissioner Beckel heimer. If we may, please excuse him, he won't be able to attend the meeting and a.

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Motion to excuse the commissioners I can entertain a motion.

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In the second, those in favor aye motion carries. Thank you. If everybody could please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Let the record reflect the Commissioner. Flores has just entered the meeting.

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Extender that we have is the consideration of the approval of the minutes of the meeting of March. The 7th.

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To approve the minutes of March 729.

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To motion: do we have a second second and a second all those in favor aye motion carries. Thank you all right.

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Okay, do we have any citizens comments? We.

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Have you seen OPA citizen comment right? Thank you all right.

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What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna ask for a motion to move up item 11 8. This will be a presentation on utilities motion, but thank make a motion. The second of those in favor aye motion carries thank you, Thank You, mr. chairman.

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Good afternoon mr. chairman and members of the Commission Rhea Silvia with Utilities Department I, will just make a quick presentation. This is the same presentation. I made it to City Council last year in August, and also in this Monday and based on these councils authorized to have a workshop in two weeks. We don't have the date yet to cooperate and possibly come up with a solution.

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Quickly, this is our utility system. We do have two water plan, six for plan. As I say we have 72,000 customer in water side and sewer 1757 1,100 miles of water line and 775 miles of sewer line.

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This is our our manpower. We know that counts is growing faster. We have the same amount of employees.

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This is, we had completed a master plan in 2015 that master plan addressed 2050 to 220 65, and it identified almost two hundred and eighty seven million dollars for water investment and 471 million dollar for wastewater investment, and this is, of course, to support 600 10,000 people as it passed city grows. We will be doing a master plan upgrade because the master plan is almost five year old.

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These are the improvement we need to do for water and wastewater on the capital improvement program for last next, five years because of the growth. Most of this improvement is team to the growth. As you can see, all those are all brand new tank I mean most of you know. The lion we have two tanks is been, one is empty for forever, but city's going. So we need to have that storage capacity. So we need to read. We need to download the tank rebuild the tank.

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The other tank is also leaking, so those two tanks hold almost 10 million gallons. Now we are holding five for.

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You planet irreplaceable, make new ones first. First.

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Make one time and then they have no the other one and make another one. Also cuatro Vientos South Florida is going so in future. We have to build a booster station just to get the pressure up on South, Laredo and.

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Are some of the water line projects?

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Water still is ok, it's the sewer is the one we are in dire need. Part of the issue is, if you can see the big ticket item and others that plant was supposed to be built, the contract was awarded in 2009, we didn't acquire the land until 2015 and since it's a huge price tag, 32 million dollar we didn't winter plan. Of course we didn't have money, budget short days and I've in last three years. Every opportunity I have a been telling council and the management look.

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We don't have capacity, we need to build it, and so we are delayed- and there was another plant is in my store area, which was on radio. That plant was also not built and we are not building that plant is this moment, because that plan was there was twice they went out on bids a both time. It came in like 35 and 32 million dollar dollar for a 1.65 million gallon plant, which is outrageous, and so we decided to put a lift station, but everything is pumping to one line since my mother's is not built.

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So this is the last rate: increase was done for the sewer, which was to fund 88 million dollars. In that time, remember, the CIP is based on five year same thing: a water wake was increased to fund 89 million dollar I'm, just gonna just remind Commission and mr. chairman, just a LP Copeland cost us 110 million dollars, and these are some old 2010. As you can see, the CIP need was almost three hundred two million dollars. We need when and be another rate adjustment, so we fall behind.

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Our revenue, we are doing good thanks to the growth, but it's not that good that we can. We can sustain another 180 billion dollar upon. As you can see, our operation is not, we are keep it steady upward debt service is the one growing, and the other interesting thing is growing. Is the eight fees to the general fund, the more money we bringing in? Of course, we are Enterprise. Fund general fund takes a takes a share of.

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The money, how much money is your enterprise, one contributing to zero for mr.

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Chairman, if you look at it and 2015-2019 will be paying five point: 1 million dollar and, as you can see, it grows from 2015 four point: six two. So they have a percentage, so the more money we bring in the more you.

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Know more, they take more. You lose yeah.

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I mean Washington, we have Uncle Sam here we have probably uncle Juan.

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And this is the, as you can see the sewer collection system. This is Unitec, which is we just finalized the design we will upgrade the Unitec plan, so this support any any development coming in on this area. This is the plan. I just told you, some brachio was not built. This plan was to take care all this growth, all the way to El Pico without come to Bluebird and all of those are supposed to be.

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Taken care of by this plan, this Bank was not built, so there is a lift station pumping here. Everything goes through this line and all the sewer from North Laredo comes through this line and connect here and then goes in front of mall del Norte goes to Sakata probably means this line is four year old same line. We didn't put additional line because the idea was once we build Morales. All this word will be intercepted here and once we build some lady, all the sword will be intercepted. Here seems it was not done now.

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We, this line, is overloaded by knowing that we can approve, because that's a TCK violation. I can have sewer overflow and a proof submission, and so that's why we should we stop approving subdivisions and you, you Commission, using those comments that we have no diversity. We do have some temporary solution, but we cannot just approve subdivision based on temporary solution.

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So the upgrade that you're looking at right now in unit 8, they would go from how many gallons of suture, how many.

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Nuts goes from 180,000 to 360, but most of those area are all industrial parts, so it doesn't produce a lot of sewer know.

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What I was thinking is: is there a way that you could maybe reroute some things everything.

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Is gravely looking at human lift station mm-hmm?

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Possible not possible with lift station. Can I what.

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Yes, you stated regarding TCEQ violations. Aren't we already in violation because we're at 100% capacity and we haven't done anything to build any new wastewater treatment programs? We.

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We are not because a treatment plan we have capacity, we upgrade in South Loretto, which will have 18 million government no.

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No probably on have an election system.

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Okay problem we're: having is the collection system capacity, it's not their treatment plant. We have capacity and.

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What is our treatment plant capacity right now? Okay,.

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We create almost 14 million gallon South Florida. We have 12, we just operating it to 18. We are treating seven because the burden.

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Was what is our percentage like of capacity? What are we using of our current capacity right now, not the wrong numbers, but the percentage of capacity? What do we.

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Add does for the treatment plant? Yes, sir. Okay, that will be about sixty percent, so we do have capacity on the treatment problem we have. We don't have capacity in the collection system and where.

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Was the flaw in setting up the lines to take the waste to the treatment plants? The.

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Flaws was this: two sewer plant, one was not built and one was delayed almost five years.

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My understanding with the comments that have been brought forth with the flats that we have is that we have lines 18-inch lines that serve a disproportionate number of households and we have clogged. We have I, guess, log jams in San, Ysidro and mines Road, and so why are we building smaller waste collection lines when we know that that's where them? The most of the growth is going to be.

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To answer your question collections lines under man, what what happening these are. These are a bigger collection line, which is the San Ysidro intercept of mine problem. This is where it intercept here. All these were from mine start coming at this point, going underneath I before and coming through, Manila squeak, intercepting here and then going. This is the line which is a 30 inch line, doesn't have capacity.

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So what, as I told you, we don't want sewer Flo, and so we had temporarily put putting some suction pump at the end of Canal Street, where the Stein Mart is just to keep the sewer flow. So we don't have spills I mean we can keep it, but we cannot approve subdivision based on a temporary fix. That's why the permanent solution means all those other infrastructure needs to be in place. So if I have a path council give me a direction. Yes, there is a needs to be a rate increase.

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If you want to grow, there needs to be a rating is to fund these projects, so if they they approve a rate increase. I can start approving subdivision and keep those temporary pumping system because we we already funded those improvements, but at this moment that's the eve and hopefully I mean they all understand and that's why? Hopefully they will make a decision now.

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What was the holdup for the Manila's Creek wastewater treatment plant from being built.

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The land acquisition was one thing, just as you know that that property used to be the endzone plant, so city cannot close the property until we get a clean bill of health from the tcq it took almost 3-4 year and then then we don't put in had money. We could not support. 52 million dollar bond just talked to two point: six million dollar payment every year.

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What was it that funded with the capital improvement program as set aside in 2008 or 2009? No, so the cap.

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If you look at capital improvement program, this is a wish list. It is funded every year during the budget with the bond cell. So if it's not funded, it's just a wish list, and if you look at the city's web page, we have six hundred seven hundred million dollar capital improvement program. Very few of them are funded.

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One of the one of the biggest issues was that the increase on the utility costs for the for the community- that's how he, how the funding is being planned for these type of improvements, other it India, then the the capital program that is coming up.

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In other words, the conveyance, is gonna, be impacted with a higher rate in the watering. So.

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Let me, let me show you what we this is the preliminary number and as I say, we council did authorize me last year to go ahead and hire a consultant to go through the rate study which, which we did and I mean I. Just don't want you guys to get bored with all this, but they did say that 2 percent annual increase is good, but that's not enough to sustain the new bond.

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So, as you can see, we are one of the lowest rate in the state and water and sewer. So what was what's the rate.

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That you're looking for well that will need to be adjusted. So we could do the project opportunity. We cannot stop. The subdivision is a way to find a way to find it. You.

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Want me to go to the all the way to the last slide. I can do that, what you just asking I'm, just showing that we are one of the fastest growing city, but we are one of the lowest rate and if you cannot, you have to fund this project, you cannot be both and so, but.

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You can parent cities that have a higher per capita average medium income than the rate all right. So if you shoot the comparing apples with apples which would be the valley and Laredo.

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Income, it I mean it cost same to build a sewer plant here or hiding by the average.

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Income and absolutely with higher income everything them can afford these after charges right.

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I mean we compare with with the cities all.

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Right there are there any cities in the that are comparable to Laredo, like on the border that are charging higher than what we are.

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I mean the Pasadena Brownsville I mean you have Midland pure.

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Lands that were poor with it possible.

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El Paso Mia.

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Par with them in their city of El,.

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Paso is not growing as we are, but.

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The deal is, if you don't want to grow, your infrastructure is fine, but all this growth is causing us to building infrastructure, I mean and we should be very proud of and lucky very few communities have two brand-new water plan and all the sewer plants are pretty much brand-new.

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You will see very few community has both el Pico and Jefferson are brand-new water plan, but.

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You're saying that it's the line, that's causing this right. Yes,.

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Because why not fix a line? And then.

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Say man, that's the plan.

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Stop as a related bill right, I guess, I have a question and I know it's easy to look back into the past and say where it worked where this all went wrong. But at what point could this have been avoided and and what could have been done for what it just so that we can some context and understand how we got here at.

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What point as I as a show I showed you in 2010, when that CIP shows that we need 302 million dollars, we should have.

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If, at that time, we should have amended the ordinance and do a better rate increase to fund all this project. Of course, after this we, as you can see that CIP LP Copeland in that CIP was sixty million dollar. It cost us almost double.

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And so there was some mistake done, but unfortunately pointing fingers not gonna, take us anywhere, so we need to just move forward. Mr.

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Chairman, yes, if I may so our recommendation to City Council will be to up to bring the funding for that particular improvement. So we could so in that in a way that we don't start the go to the Radel, because if we stop the growth operator, then that's that's. Coming back to us, we still meet that the plant solution. It improvements, I mean.

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The plants are there, the problem we need is a collection lines and obviously that's that's. What needs to get funded? You need the collection lines to be able to continue growth and, unfortunately, that cost money and to be able to pay back that debt. It can I go back on all ratepayers I do know that one was that 25 year of increased past within ten or eleven.

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Jobber 2007 in.

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Thousand eight well.

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We're gonna have a continuous 25 year, increase every year like 2% or something like person, yeah.

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So so that's what the consultant is coming back. If you look at this is the last page. We do have the two percent rate increase every year, yeah so, but the two person cannot sustain that additional growth, additional debt service, so he's proposing 5.6 percent- and this is combined both water and sewer residential.

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That's a project: that's because we haven't been increasing the rate at all. How do we've been continuously increasing in it.

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How many have you seen 2%.

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Everything is going up almost 2%, so it doesn't give you additional money to float me. One.

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Suggestion rate increase to five point: six percent on top of the 2 percent, no.

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Instantly 2 percent is 5.6 percent total, but commercial. One thing we do have the commercial rates are lower than once again generate, so we are looking at in five year. The.

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Marshall rate.

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Will be higher than resident.

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But that's considering the development we have now is that considering future development from other projects that are going to go up and play.

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Yes, this is to for next five-year projects, 180 million and considering.

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The dividend we have now is that considering future development, because by doing that and improving these projects, you're going to bring up new subdivisions, yeah.

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You're going to bring in more revenue right- that's not factored in here that.

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Is based on whatever we have the projected growth.

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Okay, now the the five point: six percent increase. Is that overall or is it residential or is it commercially.

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This is residential, as you can say, so, what's a commercial increase.

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Percent five point: six percent equates to $2 for the residential home 14 percent food commercial. This is for commercial, yes, and then it goes back to five point four, because this is the the highest rate increase because of that loan form annales. Okay,.

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Then your when.

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Is it drop in 21 or 20 worth 20 20 to 20 20 to drop 7-5.

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Robstown! No for commercial in just that that first year,.

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Right point four five point: four, and they are proposing from October twenty twenty third, instead of having two percent go to three percent, so that will give you a sustained revenue source.

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This is only considering increases, there's no other consideration to obtain funds from somewhere else. When general funds from cutting expenses may be no.

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General, as I said, we have to.

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Come in yes, a person they do is a because their expenses right I mean.

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As you can see, I'll show you see, we are cutting our exam at the prom. Is the city's already.

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Understaffed across the board, I mean.

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See it comes, was gonna have a workshop on this 35 eggs. Would we be appropriate for one of the four members to be there and for because it's coming back to us afterwards.

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Anytime, they have a workshop, it's a public meeting, so anyone can attend. Okay, any one of the commissioners can attend. I mean.

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We are looking at first week of April.

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So City Council is gonna approve this on Monday no.

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Well, it will have an workshop, they will so we'll bring our consultant. They might have before set timeframe for.

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Getting this resolved, assuming that, if everything is a green light, soon as possible as.

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It's gonna take about a year year and a half for our construction gets any fun.

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If I know this thing are funded, we can do some.

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Yeah, you can do some temporary things. What I'm saying is that the actual fix.

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Would not be built in five years. It's gonna take those you.

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Know you work for 12 to 36 months.

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Thank you can be temporary fixes as long as you know, it's been approved and you've got the money.

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Right you'll continue with this pumping operation. It.

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Is basically yours, yeah.

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You're doing an inline pump on your sources show us what you're doing yeah.

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It needs to be gravity flow. Then now it's a suction, yeah yeah. You know.

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How do you know this percentage won't won't have an adverse effect and beyond that that what I mean they'll suffer? You have a brownie now, but you increase the rate. These people are stopped developing so.

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At the workshop is that, where they're gonna look at additional other funding sources as well too or is it just gonna be to look at what the consultant is I.

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General fund does not support utilities; they can they don't they can't even support yeah general fund yeah, so council will look at different option. One of the option they've been talking, maybe target to the developers. Those are one of the option, which is not a very popular thing. It also because if you charge $500, the impact is heavier on the residential home side, but they will have I mean we. We want their direction. This is our proposal. They will have different options or will sit down with City Council. Okay,.

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Any of the questions for mr. riah from the Commission mr. riah wanna. Thank you very much for coming to the Commissioner plating to us the situation that the system is in. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much.

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Okay, the next item that we have is going back to regular agenda item 6a. This is a public hearing, many rezoning ordinance of the city of Laredo by rezoning all that part of block 2019 Eastern Division, located at 3203 Chacon street from b3 to m1 the proposed uses, a trader tractor trailer parking site is currently undeveloped and the staff.

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Boys supports its own changes. This is a public hearing. Anybody who wishes to speak in favor of the zone, change in favor of the zone, change, I'm,.

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Mr. chairman, there were three updates all.

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Received three letters in opposition on the traffic on 359, which we're aware of it does operate at F level service and it's a non system. Roadway tech stock is doing what they can to alleviate congestion out there yeah.

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Text I was proposing to add an additional lane up through 59. Isn't it I.

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It's not that they were concerned.

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The Vick Euler parking traversing, a residential neighborhood. It was just simply.

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Alright, this is a public hearing. Anyone who wishes stupid favor of his own change in favor of his own change. Anybody who wishes to speak against his own change against his own change.

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A public hearing, yes ma'am.

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Good evening, my name is so die that Jackson and the real estate broker for this property. The reason that we requested zone change 10m one is because the surrounding properties do in the back side, do have warehouses and the idea is to be able to build a small warehouse there and again also as use it as a trailer park.

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Trailer facility, ok, any.

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Question from the Commission for mrs. Jetson.

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Just a real question: if it mentions that you for truckers, they're allowing to be for because.

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A warehouse is.

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Not permitted and.

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So to be able to build a small warehouse to be able to store, you know some of the merchandise inside primarily the reason.

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What we see man alright. Thank you. Thank you very much any comments. Thank you. Alright, what are the wishes.

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Of the Commission made, the motion to close public hearing support staffs recommendation to improve this unchain. Second motion.

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Of payments I'm sorry.

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Did call all right go ahead.

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My name is Jana Lopez and we do live right on 359 and I do have for the people that also live here. This is the older generation. We do not want the m1 at all. We eject safely, because the first of all the traffic is already immense there and that there is no curb appeal there. You walk up from your home and you see 18-wheeler tractor trailers.

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There I don't know if they could possibly do some form of curb appeal to where we won't see that, while we're driving or coming in or out of our homes, also the reverse. If she is correct, there are other manufacturers in the back, but not in the front of 359. So right now we have it's very difficult to come in or out of our homes, and it's just about five minutes there. It's different individual homes.

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We don't appreciate the noise, the the curb appeal, the backing in and out of the trucks, because we do use those those streets there. Anything.

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Taxes, we're not sure how that's going to affect our taxes going from a b3 to an m1.

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Think, that's that's pretty much. Okay! Thank.

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You very much for your comments. Anybody else who wishes to speak against his own change against his own change, okay, and that.

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That the the they would have access from 359 and wouldn't save on the sides or from the the rear it would be from 359 and.

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They'd have to get text our approval for those uh driveways, which means they may ask for an acceleration or deceleration lanes if they grant if they grant the excess. Yes, I.

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Know mr. Sherman m1 will be appropriate because it's gonna improve the area now they're gonna have to comply with a lot of the requirements from my context up so I think it would be more appropriate. You look for for the neighborhood. It would be a more control paints, a lot of too many things in that area. Okay, all.

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Right we do have a motion at me. There was a commissioner Danes. Yes, sir, say there is a motion on the floor to a support staff. Yes, sir, and there's a second time screw badly, all those in favor of the motion aye. All those against motion carries. Thank you.

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Next item we have is a public hearing amending the zoning ordinance of the city lawyer by rezoning, Lots, five, six, eight and one half of block nine nine. Ninety three Easter division located 1804 in 1820 Cortes from r1 to be one the proposed use, is a.

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Belief, it's gonna be a contractor's office sales office with no outside storage required. Mr.

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Chairman this item was withdrawn by the representative. Okay.

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So if it was withdrawn that we have to dig line, should they even table it right? No.

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It was withdrawn completely all.

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Right then, we move right on to the next item. Is a public hearing? Men in the zone endorses city loiter by resort approximately two point: nine five: nine acres located at north of International, Boulevard and west of Springfield Avenue from an AG to a B with three they proposed uses, a commercial and the site is currently vacant and the staff supports the zone change. This is a public hearing.

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In favor opposed what.

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A postcard, it's your update! Thank you. This is a public hearing. Anybody wish to speak in favour in favor. Yes,.

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Sir chairman Wayne, a supporters, not engineering, we agree with staff comments, we're looking forward to this zone change we think, is appropriate for the area. There are several be threes in the areas you can see from your maps that are provided by staff, and we agree with all of their comments and we hope you feel the same. Thank you with trance.

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Anybody else wish to speak in favour in favor of the zone change anybody who wishes to speak against the zone, change against the zone change, if not one of the wishes of the Commission.

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We have a second ticket and a second all those in favor aye. All those opposed motion carries. Thank you. The next item that we have is public hearing amending the zoning ordinance of the city loiter by rezoning.

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16 I'm sorry rezoning approximately two point: zero, six, seven, zero six, seven acres located north of International Boulevard in West Springfield, was in the same area and it's going from an AG to a B three. Also it's a separate track, but it's in the same area and the staff supports his own change.

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Opposition all right: this is a public hearing. Anybody in.

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Favor, mr. chairman Wayne ants again you're right it is it it's almost adjacent they'll split by a future street for the same reasons we were in support. We're in Greene was deaf. Thank.

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You anybody else who wish to speak in favour of his own change in favor of the zone, change who wishes to speak against his own change against his own change? Okay, that the wishes of the commission.

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Of the commotion motion.

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Second and a second, all those in favor opposed motion carries thank you.

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The next item we have is a public hearing, the money in the zoning map, er City lawyer, but he's only a lot one on subdivision, located at 8002 son gotta drive from m1 to before. This is a down zoning that proposed uses a child day care in a pawn shop.

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The staff supports his own change. Deserts.

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Updates no updates. This is a public here, and anybody who wishes to speak in favor in favor.

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Mr. chair, the adjacent property is Tuscany village, it's a commercial shopping center and the proposed change has a an existing pawn shop. That's been there for about 15 years, we're adding three commercial spaces and it will all be part of the same shopping center and the zone change would just make it all commercial on mines, Road and, and that way would be more in tune with the the proposed building use. Sorry, your name for the record Oh Richard cannon. Thank you. Thank you. Thank.

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You this is a public here and anybody else who wishes to speak in favor in favor.

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Anybody who wishes to speak against against the zone. Change yes, may I come on up.

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When I do so, it like Akira construir when Tokyo rental, a local Perico, strudel daycare I thought you for Dale jr.. Oh yes, yes, I.

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Wouldn't those okay, anybody else who wishes to speak in favor in favor anybody else who wishes speak against against all right wishes to the Commission.

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Make a motion to close public hearing support staffs recommendation to approve the zone, change have motion.

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Do we have a second second in a second all those in favor? All those against motion carries. Thank you. I said that we have is item 7a. This is reviewing consideration of the following master plan: those prescient deceased master plan, the intended residential and commercial 170 acres sited is located west of Concord, Hills development and east of what relentless Road the zoning for this 185 lakh development is AG. R1 r1, a and B for the proposed action is approved.

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Subject to the following comments from Planning from water utilities, traffic safety parts and leisure ysd has a question and notice the developer. Complaining. The engineer of record is held in engineering.

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Right, we have motion table ensemble, a motion and a second all. Those in favor aye motion carries thank you next, and then we have is a review in consideration of the Shiloh Highland subdivision master plan, the antennas, residential and commercial. The purpose of this revision includes creating two phases out of former phase two. The proposed action is proved subject to the following comments: from planning for water utilities: a notice to developer from planning. Yes, sir.

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Chairman Wang nan Sporto science engineering. We agree with all these comments. Okay,.

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All right, what are the wishes of the Commission.

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The commotion from the hearing is the recommendation of.

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A second second and a second all those in favor aye aye motion carries thank you. Next time we have preliminary consideration of the Santa Cecilia estate subdivision and ten is residential.

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This is a 183 acre tract located at Casa, then Solem west of a little girl that drive it's just the property that I have this packet on in front.

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To this information that we have received here at the Commission level, there appears to be litigation ongoing between this particular issue and based on what I'm reading here from what has been submitted to the to your office. It's probably in our best interest. If we table this item indefinitely.

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Has provided some information that we could share all.

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And we just wanted to remind the city that the city only enforces public land use regulations. They do not. We do. The city does not enforce private land use regulations. They also asked us to share that this zone city, which we are, has a comprehensive land use regulatory scheme embodied in the zoning ordinance subdivision ordinance, Building Code. This is based on protecting.

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Of course, the health and safety of our community restrictions are a matter or easements, and covenants are a matter of private contract, typically established by a developer and occasionally by reciprocal agreement and the property owners. Those restrictions, as as mentioned earlier, our private and the city does not enforce them. This is not legal advice. This is simply information to share with the Commission.

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I think, unless they have an injunction in joining us, we can act so I, don't know what one crazy reason not to act unless there's something that's preventing us legally from acting okay. Now, if you want to table the item, because you want to get more information from the legal department before we act, that's also an option.

A

Well, I guess my question was: if legal department has already and according to what they just mentioned, is that they probably looked at the title search. That's.

D

Correct they're.

A

Saying that, based on what they have reviewed, it's it's not a matter of of the cities that the city can obviously enforce any kind of restrictions. Yeah the only issue that I can't with that is I. Guess. If we're going to approve a particular subdivision plan, it does have certain conditions that must be met by the city, bring.

D

Go forth yes, and but those cities conditions are all related to the ordinance.

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D

Regulations they do not have so at.

A

This point agreements.

D

The way you have.

A

Proposed action to approve the departments that have reviewed this particular submittal are in concurrence that they're willing to approve this particular subdivision.

A

Based on these comments, that's the recommendation of the city staff. That's.

D

A

Right and the legal department is already pretty much injected that they hope the city does not careful.

D

To provide legal advice to the Commission that this was simply information that they share, that the city does all only enforcers and regulates the city ordinances. So.

A

I guess a concern I have is if the city's legal department cannot provide legal assistance to this commission. So what the hell.

D

This dress, they we're not the not even Zoning Commission, there's, no, they cannot provide who.

A

Is the assigning legal representative from the Planning Department to this commission miss.

D

Li well to the legal to the Planning and Zoning Department. We are assigned a legal person and her name is Lisa Paul. So.

A

What you're, I guess just.

F

Saying right now is.

G

That we don't that's.

A

What I'm saying you know so, then there is no body from the city's legal department that would advise this commission. They.

D

Gain stress that they could not provide legal advice that they could not provide legal counsel, that this was information that they were sharing well.

A

That kind of puts us in a quagmire here, because I mean how do you all get protective? We make that's.

I

Exactly what you.

A

Know I was thinking you know that that does put us in a predicament here as a commission.

D

If you feel the item and have legal department, you know here at the next meeting and share you know all their. You know their restrictions and.

D

I

Me ask you a question before we take that step.

I

What you're saying here is that what what this person, what this group is proposing on this plat, is meets all the city ordinance requirements. Subject.

D

G

Can I can ask you there? This plot is not in conform, its not in conformity with the master plan correct there.

D

Is no master plan? Yes,.

G

Sir is actually it expired.

D

G

Then there's no new one been approved, its.

D

This is the only things unless planets are required. If it's only one phase. Okay,.

G

So they don't have to resubmit a new master plan, even if there's an old one. Yes,.

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A

Don't know if economist did you get adjusted what.

I

They requested a new master plan, no.

H

It was an issue with.

G

The fire and the they were trying to plat it. They were trying to PLAs one of the last proportions and it was not in conformity with the master plan that had been done, shocking in 1996 or 2000 or whatever it was done, and what they were trying to do was block off those exits that choke an easement that was sold with the property and which they're still doing again with the cul-de-sac. That's heading north.

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G

The exit going south at the bottom, the.

K

Developer did do a title search which is in front of you, and they show that there's no.

G

There's a petition filed in the district court reattachment.

K

Regulate both easements, even if there is well.

G

Honestly, somebody with the title search did a bad title, search and I'm not going to step into something where there's going to be a fight with his references. I'm, not gonna, I'm, not gonna, put my hands over my eyes and pretend that something's not there when I know damn well. It is, and that's.

C

Yes I my understanding and is that we are an extension of the certain powers of the council, we're being appointed by councilman's and in by the mayor. Tate did I understand the review for this type of of trade for coordinators. As long as we follow.

C

It would have been better for for this attorney to be here and explain rather than.

G

Actually, he was here last time and the applicant is neither here this time, nor the last.

K

G

C

I personally feel that we should proceed and and make a decision as to what is before us, because that's what we're.

A

Here for all right, let's get the applicant up and let's see we can provide some answers.

T

Good evening, Ricardo Ramos with the right I'm the engineer record for this flat and what we did is we received those comments that we've reported from the last time we submitted and incorporated into these this revised plan, so.

T

When y'all talk to y'all were talking about the easements and those one of the things that we did, we went back and checked to see if there were any admits tied down, and we only found one easement on that side of the property, which was basically the road. The main road for.

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T

So this is a that we found for that subdivision.

L

And that's what we submitted that I'm, sorry I didn't hear, which is Anthony's man a head was found and that's the one. That's is that a 60-40 spinner. What right.

A

That's Andy's been coming up for the. What is that 359? Yes,.

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A

Agree: 59 right: yes, yes, yeah yeah! So then the Eastman that you found is basically coming off 59 into the property.

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C

D

We don't they found, they found it.

A

So the staff in has not confirmed some of the information.

D

A

Stand but they got to be turned into the city. Engineering right for them to confirm. Can.

I

I do what I think we should consider doing, assuming that this does not hurt the developer, because I don't want to do that is. Can we table the item request that someone from the City Attorney's Office come here so that, instead of you but reading that to us that we can have them answer our questions? That way, we are making an informed decision, because you know like I'm, gonna attorney, but I have a hard time.

I

Reading, easements, so I I, don't I mean you could I could probably read you if you ask me to go back to and read these meant I could be back in a half an hour and not really understand what we.

D

Did we did ask for a legal person to come tonight and they've they may shared with us that they felt that they had no role, but we will certainly ask them to do well.

I

At a minimum, they have to explain why.

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D

I

Have to explain why they don't represent us, or at least can't give us guidance on what.

D

The season we certainly relay the Commission's request well.

G

We can, as a commission, we can ask for one of them to be sent here. Justice or utilities. Director came here at our Qwest. Yes,.

H

But now they have a role right. We need interpretation on the Eastman's. I.

D

We can relay your request.

I

I think I think what they're saying is that the Eastman is really a private issue, not not not a city ordinance issue, they're.

A

Saying that they're.

L

Saying the thing is.

I

They need to come and tell us that, so that that we were clear on what their position is on all of this before we take it.

A

Well, no, they did mention that the.

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A

That they said to Vanessa, don't we have questions? I have a question because I mean obviously you know I mean we have a document like you said in front here it's got a 60-foot easement but, like you said, I haven't I just saw these documents right now. I'm even had a chance to look at them, but.

I

If we tabled the item- and we request someone to be here at the next meeting- is that does that affect any timelines or anything? That's that's just finally been mildly concerned. Well,.

T

Then it affects the the project as far as moving forward. You know, you know, maybe one consideration that the board the Commission can do is come back. It's.

L

A primary plan.

A

Yeah, this is a very flat sole. It's not a final law I mean basically by giving him from preliminary approval. If they meet the conditions that are set forth in this communication, they can continue to go forth. This thing can still continue to be researched, and you know blush now. I could give away those.

C

Sherman to ask that they basically show the easement, or we can actually see how he said. If a party is what the 60-foot I.

A

Don't know I mean again, what did you find? You find a.

L

60-Foot, it even has a document that I have out of me. What.

T

We can do is is maybe come back with an exhibit on the final and show you what that easement is or send it to the Yancey, but but I ate. This is a preliminary. It is so we there's another. Then.

L

You guys can say.

T

Wait a minute what's going on, you know you didn't there's.

A

Still more more that you need to continue to.

L

Write I still need work, there's more than hearing work that after they're gone and.

A

Submit it to the city right, okay, does anybody have any questions for mr. Ramos submission? That's.

C

Question have you been served with the less pendants? Is that quick answer the independence? Have you been served with that lace, pendants that that it means that you have a litigation pending that might hold it from I.

T

No, no after you know not that I don't know he's not named named.

G

I

That still wouldn't affect this.

H

Yes, sir, two different Eastman's here right, these.

G

Are two different? He didn't submit that people he didn't.

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This is submitted by by this engineering firm, okay,.

H

Question these are two different Eastman C found know what he's been one okay, this is reference in two different looks. Sometimes they were.

C

Pretty mean re actually moved with a preliminary.

H

C

This is amending rather than.

H

A reference a different page, page 89 to speak to 86, and then the acreage is different to.

F

There's direct bearing on this.

D

Case but with regard to Zoning, will every single one of our zoning ordinances when we change an ordinance it has. Language then stipulates that the city does not enforce private covenants and restrictions that, and that was something that was added by our old.

D

Remember, the old city attorneys. What is he had us add that to every single one of our zoning ordinances because of a very similar issue. You know there was a restriction with rezoning and you know zoning a case came forward and it was in contravention of some. You know private covenant and it was a big issue and that's when the city's you know had us put that on everything ordinances.

D

So it's it's. It's very same thing that we're hearing from our legal department now that the city, again it's not enforce.

D

C

We have we have before is something that have been research in that in place by the bystander. They were only the recommendation of step, so any problem there.

C

D

Like legal shared that it would not negate the private covenant.

A

Okay, all right any other questions for mr. Ramos from the collision. Thank you, mr. Hollister. All right. What are the wishes of the Commission on the commotions.

C

Proposed the public hearing in approve, subject to two, several commendations: okay, we have a motion.

A

Do we have second.

A

Do we have a second.

A

Motion dies for lack of a second do. I have another motion.

G

I'd rather make a motion at the table and ask for the City Attorney's Office to be here in the alternative. I'd make a motion to deny it, but I'd rather give the opportunity opportunity to get all these ducks in a row and ask for the City Attorney's Office to you. Motion will be the table to table. We have maple.

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G

If it's, whether it's to time certain or not to that the.

A

Okay, a motion of table: do we have a second? Second, we have a second all, those in favor signify by saying aye, I.

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A

We have one opposed all right. That motion carries it takes come in mr. Shaw in place. I.

C

Posted just because we have before is something that either they might have a point saying we brought something before you in that it was. The recommendation was foolproof. So that's the only comment that I have all right. Thank.

A

You all right next data that we have is preliminary consideration of the plight of the shiloh island subdivision phase two, the intent is commercial. This is a three point. Four, six six seven acre tract. It is located north of International, Boulevard and west of Springfield. The proposed action is approved, subject to the following comments from planning, probabilities and note to the developer from planning. Yes, sir chairman.

O

Wayne hands again, we agree with all the comments all right. Thank you. Thank you. Wishes.

A

The Commission.

A

Second motion: the second: all those in favor aye motion carries the next add a new house. Preliminary consideration of the replant of sellable antenna is right away and the proposed action is approved, subject to the following comments from Planning water utilities and a notice of development. Yes, sir.

Q

We don't have any issues with the comments all right, but are the wishes of the.

H

Until approved subject,.

A

To the following comments taken a motion in the second all those in favor aye. Well, she carries. The next item. Is the preliminary consideration of the utility trailer park up? Let the antennas industrial? This is a ten point. Five one acre tract located, Wow yard and west of FM 1472 is a 1 lakh development is m1. Proposed action is boo, subject to the following comments from Planning from engineering water utilities, a notice to developer. Yes, sir,.

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A

All right, I know that you've submitted what are the wishes of the Commission.

A

Are there any updates from the last time that you were here on this proposed plan? As terms of what you proposed, you tell whether you're gonna cut I remember there was potential that that properly, maybe business doing some cutting fell, and obviously you need to do some brain into stuff. I know.

J

I can use the.

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J

I did a profile from the existing street and in the minute bulwark right at the Hat is in the middle of the cartoon at the center of the property for less complex.

A

J

We're about seven, a hat, seven, twenty four feet above so very high and on the south side we still high about more than four feet. So it's it's going to be hard for them to they're, not going to be looking at us, because.

C

C

We had our previous concern with the cul-de-sac. Who's that address I mean.

J

Did they call the SAC we're compliant with everything from.

J

Which it's the right Bammer and it's very concrete, like any other public and we're going to be defense, my client, they did say that they, you know, don't try to do something on this side of this book on the school side, just to avoid having that disability from from from them.

J

That's that's the way that they did their confirmation, but.

A

But the the the ordinance calls for you know bleak fence all around when you have a different district, oblique right, Oh.

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A

Because I think you have an m1 zone, but yours under by a fellow mistaken, so my three VIII's and and some residential right on no no just be three. The ordinance calls for well before.

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Stipulates uses residential uses.

A

Okay, well I mean this is preliminary, so you'll have to comply with whatever the audiences are. Yes, okay and you're conferred with the comments. Yes, all right, what are the wishes to the Commission I'll? Make a motion to approve I have a motion.

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Have a second take a second all, those in favor aye, those opposed one, two all right.

A

All right, we have all right motion, carries.

A

The next item is preliminary. Consider a consideration of a retinal plat, the antennas industrial 10 acre tract located north of pipe in 1472 and west of Copper Mine Road proposed action is approved, subject to the following comment from planning engineering and water and utilities.

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Q

We get grita staff comments, however, not so much or maybe get some clarity on items: 1, &, 2 under water and utilities under water utilities, I am Number 1. The third 10 states that for sewage the engineer has before apparently packaged with all the requirements for a step details. Take it to the right over water includes Department, three of you and once it's approved and take it to the real health department.

Q

We agree to that. We understand that. However, my clients Lupo central. They want to plat the property to sell it. So at this point, how do we size accordingly or effectively? It's gonna be this one lot.

A

Well, I think the issue is: if it's going to be sold, the plant requirements will remain when you do a platen, you have to satisfy water wastewater. You know all utilities all that common sense is to satisfy the sewer utility action. It has to go this route for right now. Could.

Q

We, including Platinum, saying that construction defer to construction once ain't know, what's going to be built at construction, the size of the septic system, according.

A

I'm, probably good because that yak, you said you got ten acres and at this point you really don't know what to expect. It is so one lot, it's a one lot plat for ten acres and that's that's! That's huge acreage.

Q

And I do have a plan note its.

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A

The development I think that makes perfectly sense, I mean: does anybody in Commission have any concern with that particular one? No, no! Actually, because it makes sense.

C

A

How yeah, just you said these two have I, think that that would that would be okay. To put that comment in green and the Commission would agree to that. Yeah.

G

Okay, so, and we withdraw that confidently sorry you're just asking to get rid of comment. One right, water right.

A

Right, it's just asking for permission that when they figure out what they're gonna do with it, the size of septic systems, that's needed.

Q

The first one question running number two under warranty. Ladies states, this project has an eight inch wire line on this property site along F in 1472 mines. Road, the fire department requires 1,500 gallons per minute for industrial developments that only a 12 inch water line can provide to me this sounds like well. Let me back up. Is this a requirement or just a recommendation? Well.

A

I tell you what let me call up the chief dominguez answer, the question.

M

Those 15 RDBMS are coming out of the International fire code. That 1500 is usually just the minimum. It's.

M

1500 out of one hydron I mean let's say you got a corner lot: you're part of the minimum 1500s. Obviously, if you have three hydrants and they're all getting five hundred, then you have, but that that is the table out of the 2012 international fire code. Basically, what it is it's based on building science and then construction type and then the use of the building and as you go down the table, it's going to give you a water fullest required.

M

If it tells you if the building is sprinkle, then you can reduce that water flow by 75%. But it does note that the minimum water flow is 1500, gPMs, right and.

Q

What I want to touch and I want to add to that, and thanks for the information is that that 1500 gPMs is for and says fire flow requirements for buildings, we're not building anything we're just planning 10 acres now.

M

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M

That's why I did mention its base. It's not based on property. It's based on a little bit the size of the building and the construction type yeah.

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Q

You know to me and if I was going to start, it sounds like I'm saying you know what you have names line. Sorry, well, no there's another way we can put water tank and I. Think.

A

The comment could probably be stricken because it really is under water and utilities in it really a fire requirement right and fire.

T

And fire had just.

A

Clarified what the intent of the 15 an together depending on the structure depending on the type of construction and whether it's sprinkled or not, right, that reduces things so I think we could probably strike that comment. Yeah the.

G

Whole comment over to is telling both comments of water and utilities and to.

Q

Further add to this, the building of G's or the lot adjacent to us is very similar and they have the exact same scenario and it was done last year the billy-oh, the warehouse, is basically complete. Sprinkle append a house right.

A

Yeah yeah that reduces it big time. Okay, all.

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G

You of chief all right, thank you very much. Chief he's all right.

A

Anything else that is it, okay, any other questions. No, there's no question. Thank you very much. All right, bushes,.

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At the Commission may improve subjects of following comments, not including water and utilities, comments numbers one into okay. Second,.

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Motion in a second all those in favor aye, all those against motion carries. Thank you. Okay,.

A

The next item we have is preliminary consideration of the reef flat of all of c25 in the North half of c26 wealthiness subdivision into C 25, a and C 25 B volpina subdivision in ten is agricultural residential 29.97 acre tract. It is located west of I-35 south of us 83 north. This lot is located outside the city Lloyd limits, but located within the et j-extra. The pole section is a proof subject of the following comments from Planning from engineering from fire, water and utilities, and a notice to developer. Yes, sir,.

V

Edward Sherwood, CEC and I do have a couple of questions and maybe concerns about I, guess a few of the comments. I guess. First off I guess I'd like to preface my questions would be with. We are in the we are in the county where slowly this property is in Athena subdivision is solely in the county. We are in the city etj.

V

However, in this particular case, what we're doing is my client owns, 30 acres of property and we're looking at breaking it up into two 15 acre tracks, so both tracks were more than five acres, and so we've already visited with Webb County and in Webb County is willing to give us what they call a certificate of no plan required because we exceed a 5 acre limit and we actually do exceed another.

V

A 10 acre limit that that the county looks at, and so my concern really is mainly with kind of the water comment, because the water comment says we cannot provide plat approval, I mean in all honesty, I, don't think the city Utilities Department should be given us and approve first off, they don't provide water to Latinas and they don't provide sewer to Latinas and by you know several of the state codes. If we exceed 10 acres, we're considered an AG wrench were not considered a residential youth lot.

V

Therefore, we don't have to provide water and sewer it's a wrench, so I'm just a little bit concerned about maybe the precedents that that could take and, of course, more importantly, how it applies to to our one situation here so and then I mean it kind of goes hand-in-hand with. Maybe some of the other comments. Obviously Fire Department says that they're outside it's outside their jurisdiction, so they're not going to plot, provide an approval. I mean I, think that I don't really have a problem with that I kind of make sense.

V

So it's not in their jurisdiction. We are in web calendar. We're just in the ETJ and I guess in some of the the the agreements between the city and county for the ETJ I mean there are certain things we have to bring forward to the city for their review and approval and concurrence so I. Think more than anything is it's more of a courtesy type of thing: hey guys! We're kind of doing this, but I mean a lot of what I found is because we exceed the 10 acre lot sizes.

V

It exempts us from a lot of the planning requirements by the state, both municipal and county, so and again, the department's associated with them. So that's kind of what I wanted to okay with that. So my questions are really like the water comment. You know, engineering providing Eastman's, we're not gonna, have any Smith's so long supported.

A

The water comment that kind of sticks out at me there they're making a comment here that the water source this property is using is not in TCEQ compliance.

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U

Well, oh I'm with you, but actually it's a planet, so divisional is whose planet in the 70s or 80s and 70s they're mostly planet, is 20-acre tracks. Now the statement that you did say is correct about how the county can do a certificate of no plot required because they are not conveying any public improvements. These are county roads, I think it's pearson, mosses where's the moss and then also with regards to the exemption about the 10 acres, greater the model rules if it's 10 acres or less require so sort of water and sewer.

U

So that's not a requirement here or it gets a little tricky is because in this area and on the state came it's within the sampler 8 OC cm boundary. So there's some issue about the water and sewer services. Now a statement about it not being complies with tcq. His individual wells would be required on this side if they were to pursue drinking water, but yet it's not required. So you kind of get stuck yeah.

V

I mean I visited with my client he's. He says he doesn't have any drinking water out there. He has water that he uses to water some trees on his thirty acres, he's got a few trees and a little dead chief over anybody. That's out there I'm sure you know. If certainly both penises doesn't have good water I.

V

Don't think anybody in their right mind is going to connect to it and drink it, so that would give them every right to dig a well and I'm sure wealthiness has many many water wells, even though they may have a water system that you can connect you and draw water from I believe those guys probably dig their own well and and manage their own. Well, the septic system and.

U

Also to add, with regards to the fire protection, though there is a new fire station up on what is it I believe it's Webb row at the intersection. It's.

V

On 83 north and in Webb, Road.

U

So that service as well that's.

V

The Webb County all right so again, my concern really is just it means kind of agreeing to the approval process and then it's you know, I, don't want that to domino effect and do I need to go to one stop shop now and then yeah, basically.

A

What you would be asking us for is to remove the comments of water utilities and fire.

V

Yeah water utilities, fire I, don't know if the all improvements after subdivision ordinance probably should be removed. Thank you because really I don't have to you're, not gonna, follow all those subdivisions are correct. Now, I I believe we would. If we, if we're doing any improvements, I mean I read a lot through the state statutes and some of them will say that if you're not doing any public improvements or building a street, then you don't have to flat what we're not doing any public improvements and we're not building a street there.

V

Some Moss has already developed and we don't have to put water and sewer because of the size of the Lots that we are so I think maybe three and then I would be more than happy to discuss kind of how we approach one in two with the city, because I've been several of these certificate of no plant requires with the county and that's the signature block that I did have on there.

V

But if I need to have something, maybe different, because it's a County City deal I, don't know if the city's going to want to sign off on it, I'm willing to kind of work out one in two with with the planning department, but more.

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G

Here, if I make a motion to approve subject to the following comments, only planning one into and then strike all other comments.

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G

Mean I'm asking like that's what you're asking for right, yeah.

V

That would be a that would be acceptable to the other. Very rather I would.

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D

Question is simply by removing the the comment saying that they cannot provide approval, doesn't remove their their requirement together. A letter of approval from the utilities depart yeah.

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Why would they need utilities for approval well,.

D

Because they to get a, we have to have those five approval: letters, five, the.

A

Letter the letters that should come from the departments that do not provide service is outside the city. Limits by ordinance should be a letter simply states that we cannot provide services are out of the city limits, they all share a center.

G

Since to that effect, definitely all three provide letters saying what fire or what fire put in and comment number one yeah. That should be everybody's comment. That should be every the Utilities Department comment. That should be a.

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A

That's what I'm saying is you'll get the letters, but the letters will basically state to you that it's outside your jurisdiction.

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A

That, but because by ordinance, the utilities can that provide you to those outside the city limits? Okay, so this is outside the city limits you party provide, can absolutely utility alright by ordinance the fire department. Also, the same situation.

K

Saying that approval letter even saying that they won't provide it necessary because, then being in the EJ, means that they still need to prepare in case. But when it comes into the know.

A

He's going on uh what, if you can't approve something on a what, if no, that doesn't work, Mr Lopez is common I'll bring the chief up again, but that comment to me is is a what he have coming and he's playing with what, if what, if they come in into the city limits later at the time that they're gonna be asking for annexation, those things will go through an annexation process in which time, so we have to be addressed again.

H

F

You communicated this.

H

With with nine depart from the County Planning Department, don't have you know you communicate with him? Maybe we should start.

C

I think we should move along yeah.

I

This is precisely why we need a lawyer at the Pennington group.

K

Another truck in those Latinas we've gone back and forth for months now, so with the art you go, Department may.

F

May I asked at the County pen the pen has how.

V

Many acres that one was I, don't have it off the top, so what I think is extremely unique. Maybe in our situation is that we exceed ten acres, yes and honestly, I, don't even think we should even be cladding in the city, because we exceed ten acres and there is state code that talks about that. The state code in the municipal code talks about. If you exceed five acres, you don't need to play.

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V

Read you know my I know we kind of went back and forth on this, but you know the definition of a plat includes a replac. So if it where it says you don't need to apply it and also means you don't need to replant. In my opinion, so I know we. We can agree to disagree on that, but I just think this could be into something that you know everybody that wants to do something in patina. Is there anywhere in the ETJ now has to get water, and everybody know.

A

But when they don't even provide the service, it doesn't concerned.

V

About that so I agree that some.

A

Common sense anybody else any questions from the Commission all right. Let's.

G

Go make a motion improve subjects of following comments: limiting the comments only to planning's comments, one in two striking all other comments.

A

All right second motion and a second all those in favor, aye aye. Those games motion, carries all.

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Okay, what opposed all.

G

Right, nothing, matters I, make a motion to hear items: nine, a B and C as one item a motion and a second all, those in favor aye all right make a motion to approve an item items; no a B and C a.

A

Motion in the second all those in favor aye- oh, she carries oh.

G

Yeah, a motion to approve item 10a Oh: there you go there, you go. Some of you had the packet before.

H

A

Have a motion in the second pick in a second doubles in paper: I.

D

Wanted to introduce our new planner that'll, be an outtie and the Warriors already. Yes, we were very happy to have him. He is on my County for some time and we consider my wealth of knowledge and we're very happy that where is now here with us well.

A

We're happy to have you on staff, because you bring a wealth of knowledge. Thank you good background, and it's going to really help the department the big time. Thank you welcome. Thank you. We also want to do one last thing before we leave. We want to wish our chief a happy birthday.

G

25 years of experience, happy birthday chief, all right, the motion to adjourn.

F