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Redistricting Committee Meeting 122821
A
Again,
the
second
time
in
my
life,
I
said
that
legitimately
I
don't
know
where
to
proceed.
There
should
be
an
agenda.
What
do
we
got?
Call
to
order?
Mr
navarro?
Please
guide
us
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance
actually.
C
Joke
go
ahead,
jose
jd
gonzalez,
william
joseph
palumbo
president.
C
C
A
Great,
I
guess
we
proceed
now
to
the
federal
league.
Is
that
correct.
B
If
there's
any
corrections
that
anybody
sees
or
any
notes
they
want
to
make,
you
can
let
us
know,
if
not
we'll,
entertain
a
motion.
A
Any
opposed
motion
carries.
Thank
you
very
much.
Take
us
to
the
next
item.
Citizens
comments.
I
don't
know
whether
or
not
we
have
any
citizens
that
have
any
comments
any
registered.
Nobody
is
registered
right,
so
we
move
on
to
the
next
one.
The
next
item,
which
is
item
six
discussion
with
possible
action
on
the
development
of
the
laredo
redistricting
report,
planned
maps,
is
required
by
the
city
of
laredo
city
charter,
section,
10.06
and
a
matter
of
incident
there
too.
A
I
guess
we
can
go
ahead
and
proceed
with
that.
Is
that
right,
mr
navajo?
Yes,
sir,
before
before
we
begin,
I
just
want
to
first
thank
everyone
for
being
here.
It's
a
holiday
tuesday,
christmas
just
passed.
New
year's
is
around
the
corner.
I
for
the
record.
I
did
not
set
the
meeting
on
this
date.
I
am
absolutely
blaming
mr
navarro.
There
you
go
only
mr
navarro.
A
So
this
is
a
true
testament
to
the
desire
and
passion
upon
which
all
of
us
committee
members
have
to
the
system
of
tangible,
but
anyway
thank
everyone
for
being
here.
I
think
I
actually
think
it's.
Mr
martinez's
birthday,
I
heard
a
rumor
and
he's
he's
not
with
us.
Maybe
he'll
show
up
here
later
or
not,
but
happy
birthday
to
him
yeah.
So
thank
everyone
for
being
here.
Hopefully
we
can.
In
my
opinion,
we
made
a
lot
of
progress
last
time.
A
I
know
that
there
were
some
procedural
legal
issues
on
the
county
and
some
of
their
precincts,
and
I'm
sure
people
can
fill
us
in
on
that.
But
my
understanding
is
that
we
were
about
four
percent
approximately
away
the
last
time,
which
was
tremendous
progress
and
I'm
cautiously
optimistic
that
we
can
hopefully
get
past
the
finish
line
here
today.
Mr
navarro
go
ahead
and
take
it
from
there.
B
Mr
chairman,
we
want
to.
I
know
you
were
we're
talking
about
how
everybody's
here,
but
it
does
show
that
there's
there's
some
responsibility
on
everybody's
part
not
to
to
discourage
christians
it's
his
birthday.
I
understand
that,
but
everybody
for
being
here.
We
want
to
thank
you
all
for
for
doing
this.
I
know
this
is
volunteer.
B
A
couple
of
you
are
getting
paid
right,
nobody's
going
to
pay
all
volunteer
work.
So
thank
you
for
your
time,
mr
rios,
where
we
left
off
last
time
was
with
modified
plan
c,
and
we
plan
c
got
us
to
12.12
percent
deviation
right
deviation
for
the
map,
so
you're
correct.
We
are
getting
closer
to
that
number.
10
is
actually
the
number
we
need.
B
There
were
some
some
comments
about
making
some
changes.
I
think
some
of
you
have
been
updated
by
maybe
your
councilman
or
whatever
to
discuss.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
take
them
in
order.
Mr
chairman,
if
if
there
is
a
member
of
this
committee
that
like
to
make
a
comment,
do
we
so
we
can
get
the
ball
rolling?
We
don't
have
to
do
the
introductions.
We
could
just
go
ahead
and
go
right
into.
A
A
I
don't
know
how
many
comments
there's
going
to
be,
but
I
guess
we
can
just
try
to
take
it
one
at
a
time
before
we
get
there,
though,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
procedurally
and
legally
that
that
what
our
goal
is
today,
so
I
I
my
understanding
is
that
our
goal
is
to
make
sure
that
we
get
either
10
or
9.99
of
discrepancy
or
whatever
the
proper
word
is,
and
that
at
that
point
would
be
where
we
can
make
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
that
we've
achieved
this
commission's
goal.
F
G
G
If
I
may
use
the
word,
excuse
me,
negotiations
to
split
precincts
up.
You
may
not
be
able
to
do
it
because
the
state
law
says
you
have
to
follow
our
counties
and
I
keep
saying
ours.
Although
I
resigned
as
of
the
17th
of
december,
I'm
still
identifying
with
the
committee,
you
have
to
follow
our
precincts.
If
you
do
your
elections
in
november,
had
you
had
the
city
stuck
to
keeping
its
elections
in?
G
A
How
close
are
we
based
on
what
the
work
that
we
the
hard
work
that
we
did
the
last
time?
Can
we
use
most
of
that
work
now
that
we
have
finalized
the
county
precinct
maps?
Do
they
coincide,
essentially,
is
what
I'm
asking
mr
brian
here's
the
problem.
H
What
we
don't
have
is
a
precinct
by
precinct
number
four
for
the
population,
which
would
be
nice
to
have
okay,
so
the
new
pop,
the
new,
the
new
precincts
that
the
county
did
are
from
larger
precincts.
Obviously,
they're
they're
carved
out
once
they
split
those
precincts
into
new
precincts.
We
don't
know
what
those
numbers
are.
I
would
assume,
mr
rios
has
that
level
of
detail
in
his
in
his
database.
H
I
knew
voting
for,
but
when
I
looked
at
those
it
doesn't
show
the
precincts.
It
shows
these
huge
chunks
and
it's
hard
to
see
those
smaller
precincts
that
were
created
and
what
the
numbers
are
to
answer
your
question
where
we
stopped
last
time.
My
recollection
is,
we
have
not
split
any
precincts,
we
had
moved
full
precincts
around.
H
We
moved
a
whole
bunch
from
one
to
two
and
two
to
one
to
two
to
three,
and
you
know
I
think
one
got
moved
from
eight
to
seven,
but
it
was
the
entire
precinct
and
I
think,
as
long
as
we
follow
that
which
is
kind
of
what
we
agreed
to
do
to
stick
with
those
precincts
and
move
those
first,
we
have
a
better
chance
of
staying
within
the
parameters
of
you
know.
Whatever
legal
rules,
there
are
okay.
H
I
do
know
that
at
least
one
person
called
me
and
said
that
they
had
looked
at
some
other
cities.
I
think
they
said
they've
looked
at
dallas
austin,
I
don't
know
about
houston
but
they've.
Given
me
four
cities
and
they
said
that
there
were
like
four
criteria
that
those
cities
recommended
strongly
and
of
the
four.
The
one
that
popped
out
to
me
was
the
one
that
said:
don't
split
precincts,
try
to
keep
them
intact
and
there's
a
couple
of
reasons.
H
Obviously,
when
you
get
your
precincts
at
that
level,
there's
there's
those
communities
of
interest
that
you
want
to
preserve.
I
mean
it
just
it's
very
difficult
like
when
we're
talking
about
splitting
clark
into
half
and
half,
and
it's
such
a
busy
street
and
so
forth,
and
to
have
two
different
council
people.
Looking
at
that
area
didn't
kind
of
make
sense,
it
makes
sense
on
a
less
commercialized
area
and
so
forth.
H
H
So
what
I
noticed
was
that
in
a
I,
just
it
kind
of
threw
me
for
a
loop
and
which
one
is
that
just
so
I
can
it's.
What's
the
title
of
it,
it's
called
modified
proposed
district
modified.
H
J
H
You
can
see
the
gray
lines
you
can
see
how
those
those
are
split
right,
you're
splitting
those
and
using
those
those
little
precincts
three.
What
is
it
360
309
is
split
between.
I
guess
that's,
four
and
five,
and
we
shouldn't
be-
I
I
don't
recollect
doing
that
kind
of
of
of
split
from
our
last
meeting,
we're
removing
whole
precincts.
So
how
is
it
that
we
end
up
with
splits?
G
H
F
Yes,
my
understanding
of
the
law
is
that
you
do
want
to
make
your
districts
as
much
co-terminus
with
the
existing
county
voting
precincts
for
election
purposes
as
much
as
possible.
But
realistically
it's
not
possible
in
every
instance,
because
you
have
to
split
some
boring
pieces.
You've
got
single
member
districts
and
you've
got
50
somewhat
voting
precincts
that
the
law
is
as
much
as
possible
to
try
and
be
co-terminus
with
the
existing
voting
precincts.
So.
A
For
example,
this
is
my
basic
understanding,
let's
assume-
and
I
think
you
may
have
mentioned
this-
obviously
we'll
try
our
best
to
stay
within
precincts,
but
if,
for
some
reason
we
were
in
a
situation
where,
for
example,
a
deadlock
or
whatever
you
want
to
phrase
it
at
that
point,
is
there?
Does
the
law
allow
for
some
splitting
of
precincts.
F
H
Okay,
but
but
I
think
when
you
get
to
that
point,
it's
farther
down
the
line.
You
know
there's
once
you've
moved
all
the
precincts
that
you
can
move
and
you
can
look
at
it
and
say
it
really
is
not
going
to
work
we're
going
to
have
to
do
this.
I
don't
think
we
were
there
yet
I
mean
we
were
at
at.
You
know
at
a
point
where
we,
when
we
stopped
of
looking
at
additional
precincts
that
were
being
brought
in
to
see
whether
or
not
those
could
be
moved
or
adjusted.
H
F
F
It
tells
you
precisely
where
back
in
the
old
days
you
you
didn't
have
that
you
have
to
try
and
figure
it
out
and
for
the
convenience.
You
want
to
make
sure
that
you
had
all
the
voting
precincts
co-terminus
with
your
election
election
precincts,
but
nowadays
with
the
software
and
everything
your
voter
registration
card.
Tells
you
exactly
where
you're
voting.
H
G
G
I
think
it
was
title
five
from
the
civil
rights
act
where
we
have
to
take
those
things
into
consideration
when
we
divide
or
create
precincts
for
the
most
part,
a
very
homogeneous
community.
We're
not
we
don't
have
the
diversity
that
other
communities
have.
So
I
have
to
give
the
opinion
that
we
don't
have
to
be
concerned
about
how
many
redheads
live
in
prison
for
340
or
not.
G
You
know
so
it
doesn't
matter
so
those
the
person
who
made
that
call
to
me
ben
my
ear
for
an
hour
until
I
said
well
we're
not
under
obligation
anymore
to
report,
but
I
still
say
that,
and
I
asked
mr
navado
this-
you
were
supposed
to
receive
a
new
map
with
the
way
the
comedy
precincts
were
going
to
be
drawn
up.
There
were
some
splitting
of
counties
of
precincts
in
our
own
map,
which
I
would
have
thought.
G
Perhaps
once
you
received
our
new
comedy
map,
we
would
have
transcribed
it
over
the
old
ones
to
see
where
it
jive,
with
what
we
were
discussing
the
last
time
like
there
was
something
that
we
were
discussing
here.
That
happened
at
the
county
level
before
it
was
even
brought
here.
There
was
one
precinct
where
the
last
time
you
were
trying
to
take
a
portion
of
it
and
create
a
new
precinct.
Well
that
happened
on
the
county
map
without
them,
even
knowing
that
you
were
going
to
bring
it
up
here.
F
A
H
Well,
wait
a
minute
wait,
a
minute
if
you
go
back
and
look
at
what
you
sent
us,
there
are
more
splits
than
just
that.
Okay.
So
if
you're
going
to
split
it,
I
get
it
if
it
needs
to
be
done,
because
the
numbers
don't
work
any
other
way.
But
what
I
think,
mr
day
is,
is
saying,
and
what
I'm
going
to
add
on
to
it
is
this:
take
us
back
to
the
map
that
we
stopped
at
at
our
last
meeting
with
the
overlay
of
the
new
districts.
H
A
Okay,
so
why
don't
we
just
go
creasing
by
precinct
beginning
with
district
one
and
see
if
there's
any
comments
from
anyone
as
to
the
maybe
we
need
to
zoom
out
a
little
bit
yeah.
F
You
start
with
district
one.
Yes,
please.
H
A
H
Is
is
that
a
is
that
a
if
you'll
stop
hold
on
hold
on
right
stop
right?
There
look
at
at
1,
59,
169
and
176
there's
some
blue
shoved
over
into
the
the
gray.
If
you
will
looks
like
something
from
two
leaking
over
into
one,
is
that
a
color
issue,
or
is
that
actually,
what
is
that
blue?
There?
Did
you
see
that,
yes,.
F
F
H
B
B
B
B
That's
a
question
that
commissioner
gonzalez
said
so
so
can
you
focus
on
him.
B
K
B
B
Well,
it's
to
the
point
that
mr
bratton
had
that
small
group
of
people
will
be
voting
and
increasing
176
176
gonna
have
two
different
ballots
at
the
polling
site
and
that
little
group
right
there
is
actually
voting
for
the
district
one
candidate.
Although
sorry
district,
two
candidates,
could
we
just
let
it
see,
I
I
think
so
can.
N
K
B
D
B
B
Yeah,
so
this
is
actually
no
it's
not
new
one.
I
was
going
to
say
this
is
where
walmart
is
correct.
F
B
E
A
M
B
H
B
B
H
B
B
I
So
I
think
in
general,
as
was
mentioned,
we
should
keep
the
council
districts
as
merit
as
possible
to
the
voting
precinct,
because
even
those
little
slivers
right,
we
we
have
to
make
sure
that
they're
really
necessary,
because
otherwise,
when
a
candidate
runs
for
office,
they
get
data
from
the
elections
office.
They
get
data
from
national,
like
platforms
and
those
are
all
using
voting
precincts.
So
imagine
a
candidate.
How
are
they
going
to
block
walk?
How
are
they
gonna
send
out
mailers?
I
A
I
agree
and
I
think
that's
what
the
law
provides,
but
what
I
want
to
try
to
do
right
now
is
get
a
survey
of
what
we're
dealing
with
big
picture,
because,
ultimately,
unfortunately
as
much
as
we're
all
going
to
drive
for
that,
I
think
that
we're
probably
going
to
have
to
end
up
doing
that
at
some
point.
So
what
I
want
to
do
right
now,
try
to
get
a
survey,
get
everyone's
voice
heard,
ask
all
the
different
precincts
and
then
we're
going
to
probably
have
to
come
back
and
and
tweak
things.
A
But
I
hear
I
hear
what
you're
saying
so
what
that's?
What.
A
A
G
D
We
were
starting
to
get
some
pressure
on
that
one
because
of
the
population.
I
think
that's
where
we
stopped
the
last
time.
That's
right.
They
were
looking
at
crossing
del
mar,
but
instead
of
crossing
del
mar
what,
if
we
start
heading
west,
let's
go
down
here,
that's
saunders
would
be
the
bottom
one
like
we're.
Looking
at
springfield
and
springfield
is
splitting.
I
believe
that
to
be
is
that
bill
mott
where's
spring.
Oh,
I
see
springfield.
A
Okay,
maybe
use
numbers
okay,.
D
B
Nellis,
if
I
may
yes,
you
made
a
comment
that
you
didn't
want
to
go
north.
Would
it
be
best
to
remove
the
north
in
order
for
the
population
to
go.
O
District
5
and
district
6
potential
growth
is
there
coming
district
seven.
Twenty
percent
of
the
of
the
of
the
growth
is
warehousing
yes,
you're,
going
to
take
away
a
large
number
of
our
representatives
right.
There.
D
J
M
D
H
A
H
H
D
H
D
L
E
N
A
E
D
K
J
O
A
N
K
A
Yes,
sir,
no
I
I
I
I'm
sorry
just
I
know
y'all
were
speaking,
but
so
we
moved
on.
I
asked
district
five,
any
more
comments.
District,
six,
any
comments.
I
didn't
hear
anything
so
we're
on
district.
Seven
now
and
I
believe,
there's
no
comments
on
district
seven.
Is
that
correct
right?
Okay,
so
district,
eight,
okay,.
I
For
district
8,
the
east
boundary,
I
have
a
problem
with
because
it
looks
like
if
you
can
put
it
on
the
screen.
Please
it
looks
like
it's
cutting
through
several
voting
piecing.
I
I
Are
there
any
other
ones,
mr
navarro.
B
K
D
J
O
I
B
I
D
D
I
I
D
I
B
I
K
B
The
310
alley
is
600
643
votes,
almost
32.
I
B
N
I
M
F
F
But
but
we
have,
what
you
have
now
is
eight
is
almost
perfect.
Four
is
fine,
two
is
fine
and
three
is
fine.
F
D
B
A
J
L
H
N
So
if
359
is
not
it's
not
that
populated.
N
B
Now,
that's
what
that's.
L
N
L
H
C
I
see
3
000,
three
thousand
nine,
thirty
five,
it's
in
the
this
list.
That's
all
right!
H
B
L
D
H
D
A
D
H
D
N
H
H
K
D
D
B
D
That's
the
uisd.
Let
me
take
administrative
offices,
paul
yeah,
no
east
east
yeah,
because
we
would
head
east.
J
O
H
H
N
N
M
E
A
L
B
A
A
I
I
would
prefer
if
we
kept
465,
I
mean
I
know
that
you
know
that's
my
preference
to
keep
465
in
district
8,
since
that's
an
inner
city,
neighborhood
keep
it
in
district
8.
And
then,
if
we
play
around
with
splitting
a
voting
precinct
anyway,
then
maybe
district
7
will
end
up
with
the
right
population.
B
A
F
E
A
N
M
K
B
So
look
well,
if
you
all
want
to.
Obviously
the
the
representatives
are
here,
but
if
they
want
to
see
the
biggest
precepts
in
in
one
and
then
go
from
there,
yeah.
B
N
A
We
go
back
to
that
division
between
five
and
six,
and
I
mean
there's.
F
G
N
M
D
B
H
L
K
B
E
A
M
A
B
L
B
No
seven,
and
by
five
and
four
five
and
four,
oh,
which
number
again
361,
because
that's
a
split
precinct.
J
O
L
I
D
Del
mar
look
at
five
six
and
seven.
F
L
K
I
A
I
N
B
D
L
L
B
B
D
B
B
B
A
B
L
H
I
F
B
E
L
L
K
D
L
M
B
M
B
A
A
famous
voting
rights
lawyer
here,
so
my
understanding,
is
that
our
goal
for
recommendation
to
the
city
council
was
to
get
a
variance
under
10
percent.
I
began
the
meeting
by
asking
that
question
and
mr
rio
shaked
his
head.
Yes,
and
he
told
me
yes,
so
our
the
purpose
of
this
commission
is
to
accomplish
the
goal.
That
was
stated
my
understanding
and
I
think
we've
done
more
than
that.
So,
mr
navarro,
I
respectfully
disagree,
but
I
will
defer
to
mr
rios
to
confirm
whether
or
not.
F
F
A
F
A
N
C
Let
me
just
read
you
the
charter,
just
so
you
can
get
exactly
the
wording.
Okay,
it
says
that
the
the
each
district
shall
contain
as
nearly
as
possible
the
same
number
of
people.
However,
the
district
shall
not
differ
in
population
by
more
than
10
percent
of
the
population
in
the
smallest
district
created.
C
M
E
A
Well,
I
mean,
I
think,
we're
we
are
so
close.
I
would
recommend
we
focus
in
on
a
few
blocks
and
six
then
four.
D
N
J
D
K
E
I
B
B
I
B
I
B
Anymore
because
I
was
going
to
say
your
eastern
boundary,
there's
of
eight
eastern
explosions.
A
E
A
All
opposed
it,
one
opposed
motion
carries
it's
been
a
pleasure.
What
do
you?
What
do
you
want
to
call
this
plan
plan.