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Redistricting Committee Meeting 120821
A
Okay,
well,
this
is
my
first
time
ever
doing
this.
Well,
I
guess
do
that
actually
good
evening
everybody
and
welcome
to
the
city
of
the
radio
redistricting
committee
meeting
today
is
december,
the
8th
to
2021
it's
six
o'clock
in
the
evening.
I
am
going
to
need
some
help.
I
think,
with
the
procedure,
since
this
is
my
first
time
doing
this,
but
I
have
here
an
agenda
in
front
of
me
and
I
think
the
first
thing
on
the
agenda
is
a
call
to
order.
So
I'd
refer
to
staff
on
how
to
proceed
from
this
point
forward.
B
C
A
Great,
thank
you.
May
we
proceed
now
to
the
I
guess
well,
before
we
get
to
citizens
comments
actually-
and
I
don't
know
this
is
the
time
to
do
this.
I
would
like
just
to
go
around
the
room
and
everyone
quickly
introduce
themselves
their
names
generally.
What
they
do
would
not
be
the
time
to
do
that.
Yes,
I'll
begin
with
myself,
and
then
I
guess
we
could.
Okay,
don't
start
over
there.
Yes,
sir,
my.
D
E
F
G
H
B
J
A
A
C
L
M
This
committee,
I'm
jesse
gonzalez,
I'm
the
county
commissioner
for
pc1.
For
about
five
years,
I've
been
a
county
employer
for
about
18
years.
I
live
in
the
south,
so
I
represent
councilman
rodriguez,
but
my
council
member
is
actually
mercury
martinez,
so
I
hope
in
representing
the
south
and
working
together
with
these
council
members.
I
hope
I
can
bring
some
some
help
to
the
table.
N
O
P
I'm
I'm
appointed
here
by
albert
torres
district
four.
I
represent
vidal
rodriguez
as
the
chair
of
the
civil
service
commission
and
my
councilman
is
mr
gutierrez.
I'm
also
soon
to
be
the
ex-elections
administrator
for
webb
county.
I
served
as
the
city
attorney
in
the
90s,
so
I'm
here
because
and
I'm
a
carpet
background,
I'm
not
a
native
loreto.
B
A
B
B
J
J
Give
you
just
a
brief
background
on
it,
an
overview
of
the
redistricting
process,
sort
of
step-by-step
and
finish
up
with
a
tentative
schedule.
So
what
is
it
a
definition
of
it
is?
It
is
the
process
of
redo
redrying
the
district
boundaries,
and
why
is
it
necessary?
Council
districts
are
required
to
represent
equal
size
populations.
J
However,
due
to
population
growth
decline,
migration
whoops,
there
you
go
migration.
The
population
sizes
in
the
districts
may
become
unequal
after
each
decennial
census.
The
district
boundaries
must
be
redrawn
to
guarantee
equal
voter
representation
through
equal
population
counts,
so
rules
governing
the
process.
A
myriad
of
rules,
the
city
charter,
there's
various
sections
there,
our
priority
procedures,
the
federal
voter
act,
municipal
election
code,
texas,
election
code,
of
course,
the
u.s
constitution.
Various
court
rulings
there's
a
long
list
of
rules
that
govern
this
process,
so
the
redistricting
process
can
be
generally
broken
up
into
four
steps.
J
J
They
must
be
city
registered
voters,
they
may
not
be
employed
by
the
city
in
any
capacity
and
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair
will
be
nominated
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
council,
the
terms
and
duration
of
the
members.
It's
a
two-year
term
that
run
with
the
appointers
term.
Vacancies
will
be
filled
by
the
same
procedure
and
this
commission
will
expire
two
years
after
creation,
unless,
of
course,
the
task
is
continued.
J
So
the
returning
to
the
redistricting
commission,
the
purpose
is
to
ensure
equal
voter
representation
through
equivalent
population
counts
in
each
district.
The
powers
and
duties
include.
They
are
empowered
to
review
the
council
district
boundaries
and
develop
a
plan
for
boundary
adjustments
that
result
in
equally
sized
districts.
J
The
next
step
involves
the
development
of
the
plan.
The
the
plan
is
required
to
meet
the
following
requirements.
The
district
should
be
compact,
they
should
be
contiguous
and
rectangular
as
possible.
The
boundaries
are
to
follow
center
lines
of
streets,
and
each
district
shall
contain
as
nearly
as
possible
same
number
of
people
the
districts.
This
important
shall
not
differ
on
more
than
10
percent
of
the
population
of
the
smallest
district
created
that's
over
and
above
what
the
constitution
requires.
J
J
J
B
B
Q
Q
Q
I
mean
2010
texas
picked
up
four
new
congressional
districts.
California
lost
one.
This
decade,
texas
picked
up
two
new
congressional
districts,
new
york
lost
one
by
90
people
and
every
congressional
district
means
more
political
power
and
billions
of
dollars.
So
the
two
most
important
resources,
political
power
and
federal
funds
are
based
on
the
census.
That's
how
important
it
is
now.
We've
had
24
censuses
since
the
beginning
of
the
republic,
and
every
census
is
conducted
between
january
and
october
of
that
decade.
Here,
1990
2000,
twenty!
That's!
Q
Q
They
couldn't
get
census,
takers
to
go
to
the
homes
and
so
on,
and
so
forth
and
people
wouldn't
come
to
the
doors,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
issues
with
non-citizens,
so
people
of
color
wouldn't
wouldn't
set
out
the
forms,
federal
forms
for
fear
of
being
deported
and
so
on.
So
anyway,
we
ended
up
with
a
big
big
undercount.
Q
We
didn't
get
the
data
instead
of
normally
we
get
it
in
in
april,
following
the
census.
Well,
we
didn't
get
it
till
august,
which
is
why
everything's
running
behind
time
and
everything's
running
late.
So
we
now
have
the
data.
We've
done
some
analysis.
But
what
are
the
facts?
Well,
the
facts
are
right.
You
should
have
table
there.
Q
Two
hundred
and
five
people
now
the
redistricting
process
is
governed
by
two
federal
laws.
The
first
one
is
the
one
person
one
vote
rule
you
have
to
have
approximately
equal
population
in
each
district
and
they
allow
a
top
to
bottom
deviation
of
10.
If
you
look
at
the
table,
we
we
add
at
each
district.
This
is
the
these
are
the
fact.
This
is
the
population
that
we
have
in
each
district
and
we
have
the
the
highest.
Q
One
is
probably
39
000
here
and
the
lowest
one
is
25
000.,
so
you
subtract
the
highest
from
the
lowest
and
that's
your
difference
of
23
000..
Now
your
ideal
is
the
total
population
divided
by
eight,
which
is
thirty
one
thousand.
So
that's
where
that's,
where
you're
supposed
to
be
at
thirty
one
thousand,
but
you've
got
a
difference
in
the
high
and
the
low
of
fifteen
thousand.
You
divide
that
by
the
ideal,
and
you
have
a
deviation
of
50.14.
Q
That
means
that
the
facts
show
that
your
existing
plan
is
unconstitutional.
So
the
task
before
this
committee
is
to
come
up
with
a
scenario
where
we
equalize
the
population
so
that
we
have
a
constitutional
plan.
The
second
part
of
the
table
in
every
table
that
will
have
a
plan
is
the
second
federal
law
that
rolls
the
rules
of
redistricting,
and
that
is
the
racial
makeup
of
the
community
and
norm,
and
here
we
have
mostly
latinos.
So
there's
no
issue
with
with
that
disparity,
and
so
we
have
been
working.
Q
I've
been
working
with
the
staff
and
also
myself
and
we've-
we've
designed
three
plants
a
b
and
c,
but
I
think
we've
got
plan
b
and
c
that
we
distributed
to
you,
and
we
are
our
task.
I
think
before
us
today
is
to
see
if
we
can,
if
we
like
those
plants,
but
we
work
with
I've
got
the
system
set
up
where
we
can
work
on
plan
d,
which
will
be
a
a
plan
that
will
receive
your
input.
C
Q
C
B
E
Q
It's
all
you
have
had
a
lot
of
development
here.
It's
a
local
situation.
Some
communities
grow
real
fast
and
it's
not
unheard
of
deviation,
but
it's
pretty
high,
I'm
doing
I'm
doing
harris
county,
which
has
got
five
million
people.
They
had
some
pretty
high
deviations
too.
So
it's
all
a
local
factor.
San
antonio,
grew
quite
a
bit
too.
So,
though
this
is
not
unusual.
M
I
want
to
ask
you
things
once
we,
as
a
committee
adopt
a
you
know,
plan
plan
c
plan
d,
whatever
it
is
and
it
goes
it
takes
its
process
to
go
to
city
council.
Would
city
council
be
able
to
do
changes
right
there
and
then
or
any
change
that
they
want
to
recommend?
Does
it
come
back
to
the
committee?
Is
it
a
back
and
forth?
Does
it
require
super
majority
to
change
anything
that
we
recommend
to
them?
What.
B
M
B
That
number
is
a
number:
if
no
act,
no
actions
taken
on
the
by
the
91st
day
and
then
it's
it's,
then
the
person
running
could
actually
use
it
at
the
hundred
and
eight
first
date
we're
hoping
that
it's
gonna
be
approved
by
council.
So
it's
sooner
than
that,
so
that
we
don't
there
is
no
delay
in
the
process.
But
if,
if
we
stick
to
the
schedule
it
goes
to
council-
and
let's
say
they
take
january-
maybe
excuse
me
february
to
look
at
it.
There's
still
there's
still
plenty
of
time
to
for
any.
M
O
B
So,
okay,
so
this
is
what
happened
when
I
was
visiting
with
mr
rios
on
this.
We
started
out
with
very
generic
movement
on
it.
We
did
that
so
that
we
could
see
how
the
population
changes
right.
The
first,
a
and
b,
were
just
us
sampling,
some
movements,
okay,
but
that's
not
really
that
wasn't
really
based
on
any
information
other
than
we're
just
trying
to
get
population.
Let's
just
see
what
it
looks
like
when
you
do
something
like
that.
It
really
changes
everything.
B
So
what
we
did
was
we
took
a
and
b
and
we
use
b
as
a
sample
of
how
you
can
meet
the
numbers,
but
it
just
doesn't
make
sense
for
our
community,
but
it
you
can
do.
That
c
is
actually
the
one
where
we
actually
looked
at
the
districts
and
tried
to
create
more
specifically
what
we
would
like
to
see
in
the
area
based
on
our
opinion,
so
that
we
can
present
that
to
to
everyone
here.
The
other
ones
were
just
he.
He
sent
me
one
which
was
a
and
we
it
wasn't.
K
B
Q
B
Yeah,
but
that
his
a
is
not
r
a,
but
we
set
the
center
as
b,
but
it
it
was
just
us
going
back
and
forth
to
see.
How
does
he
do
this
because
we
didn't
know
how
he
did
this,
so
we
were
asking
him
what
are
you
presenting
during
his
before
we
hired
him?
We
want
to
see
how
this
would
work,
and
so
he
he
created
an
a
for
us
to
show
us
how
it
would
work.
But
that
being
said,
nothing
is
set
in
stone
here.
B
B
That
was
that's,
that
we
added
some
just
some
changes
so
that
you
all
can
see,
but
once
again
c
is
just
to
present
to
you,
but
it's
not
set
in
stone,
so
none
of
these
maps
are
set
in
stone.
There
were
examples
that
we
were
going
back
and
forth
with,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
all,
but
I'm
sorry
that
there's
confusion
because
we
went
back
and
forth
and
he
called
it
a,
but
we
really
threw
it
out
and
it
should
have
been.
We
should
have
made
b-a
and
we
didn't
do
that.
B
O
A
But
let
me
know
that's
a
very
good
question
that
he's
raising,
because
you
know,
I
think
my
understanding
was
that
you
personally
visited
with
all
of
the
council
members.
Is
that
correct?
I
did
and
if
so
please
explain
to
the
committee
what
your
process
was
because
I
had
the
same
concern.
You
know
we
we
obviously
want
to
get
more
than
just
a
legal
consultant,
nothing
against
us.
Lawyers
opinion
we
we
want
to
obviously
get
you
know,
opinions
from
the
council
et
cetera.
B
The
the
first
step
with
the
council
was
to
do
the
presentation
that
this
guerra
presented
to
you
to
allow
the
to
have
them
understand
the
process,
so
that
was
presented
as
far
as
how
this
we're
going
about
this.
We
gave
him
a
timeline,
and
mr
rios
explained
his
presentation,
the
numbers,
how
the
numbers
work.
B
That
was
the
the
idea
behind
visiting
with
each
councilman,
so
they
can
have
an
understanding
and
mr
hills
can
go
and
talk
to
him
about
how
he
comes
up
with
the
number
that
we're
going
to
be
trying
to
work,
which
was
a
31
000..
After
that
it
wasn't
they
they
could
suggest
things,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
suggestions,
but.
B
B
Yes,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
going
to
be
ural's
decision.
What
do
you
want
to
see
the
the?
What
I
wanted
to
see?
District
8
was
my
concern.
District
bait
doesn't
have
any,
they
can't
grow
west,
they
can't
grow
south.
We
tried
going
north
and
there's
really
no
population,
just
north
of
district
8.
We
distributed
the
downtown
area,
so
there's
warehousing
up
there,
so
there's
no
population.
B
B
A
B
Now
that
being
said,
district
six
has
a
big
population
in
there,
so
we're
gonna
have
to
look
at
that
a
little
bit,
but
the
impact
that
was
was
had
by
eight
really
manipulates
three
one,
two
three
and
four,
simply
because
we
just
we
went
east
and
took
up
three.
So
once
I
took
up
three
three
lost
population
now
I
gotta
find
population
for
three.
So
what
do
I
do?
I
go
to
two
try
to
find
two
see
if
I
can
take
some
of
that.
B
The
other
things
that
I
know
is
district
4
was
landlocked,
so
I
wanted
to
find
an
out
for
district
4
for
some
growth.
So
we
went
east
with
that.
I'm
also
looking
at
district
3..
He
that
district
he
councilman
he
needs
some
growth,
so
I
went
east
with
him
also.
This
is
based
on
just
my
understanding
of
the
city
and
where
we
have
to
kind
of
open
up,
but
seven,
eight
and
five
were
truly
not
the
areas
they
do
have
a
big
population.
B
We're
gonna
have
to
look
at
that
as
you
manipulate,
but
my
biggest
concern
was
moving
eight
and
what
it
was
gonna
do
to
the
rest
of
the
districts,
and
then
we
went
accordingly
like
that.
Now
we
did
have
like
10
years
ago.
District
2
was
mainly
south
and
there
was
some
manipulation
in
the
day
and
district
3
ended
up
getting
south,
so
there
was
there
was
that
was
kind
of
off
you
know.
B
So
I
brought
him
back
up
and
I
went
with
it
just
to
see
what
that
would
do,
and
then
I
gave
district
2
back
its
normal
area,
which
was
south
this
one,
and
that's
just
me
going
back
and
trying
to
adjust
it
the
way
it
used
to
kind
of
look
once
again.
None
of
this
is
set
in
stone,
but
this
is
just
some
some
inputs
that
I
got
and
then
me
just
knowing
the
the
city
and
trying
to
open
up
growth,
but
it
it
all
starts
with
district
eight.
That's
the
one
that
killed
it.
G
So
that's
a
floater
neighborhood
that
you
see
there.
That's
actually
right
now,
part
of
district
seven
but
they're
between
the
industrial
area
of
district
seven,
and
so
they
get
forgotten
a
lot
of
the
time
because
they
really
should
contiguously
and
rectangularly
be
part
of
district
8.
If
we
want
to,
you
know,
go
with
the
ask
of
what
we're
doing
with
the
districts,
I
really
have
a
problem
with
that
area,
not
being
part
of
district
8..
Okay,.
E
B
K
C
C
O
O
C
B
P
Integrity
of
the
because
you
may
have
to
divide,
create
ten
counts
of
districts
instead
of
eight
and
then
you're
gonna
have
to
redraw
the
lines
anyway.
Just
to
answer
a
question,
however,
that
mr
gonzalez
asked
commissioner
gonzalez,
you
have
to
call
the
election,
I
believe
it's
75
days
before
the
election
day.
P
So
hopefully
that
puts
you
in
august
and
therefore
the
filing
deadline
for
anybody,
hopefully,
will
be
way
within
30
days
of
that
calling
of
the
election
in
our
work
and
if
it's
completed
according
to
the
time
frame,
we
have
by
february
of
2022.
There
should
be
enough
time
for
candidates
to
decide
what
district
they
want
to
run
in
just
as
a
point
of
information,
I
I
think
our
planning
director
from
the
county
shared
information.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
with
mr
nevada
or
somebody
else.
P
P
You
have
to
consider
the
precinct
not
to
be
the
polling
place
for
increasing
not
to
be
25
miles
from
a
resident's
place
of
residence,
so
we're
going
to
have
to
create
about
10,
maybe
12
additional
precincts
for
the
economy,
and
we
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
we
have
to
follow
certain
governmental
subdivisions
like
school
districts,
water
distribution,
districts
and
stuff
and
so
forth,
and
our
jp
districts
even
precise.
We
have
to
take
that
into
consideration
so,
and
I
must
say,
mr
vales,
I
know
you
and
I
have
met
before
we
were.
P
L
L
B
Well,
mr
chair,
we
would
we
want
to
put
up
on
the
screen.
The
map
show
you
all
the
lines,
show
you
the
the
the
the
numbers
and
how
they
look
and
then,
mr
chair,
I
don't
know
how
we
can
we
can.
Actually
we
have
the
software
here.
You
can
see
that
up
there
we
can
move
the
lines,
as
you
suggest,
to
us
there's
a
little
delay,
but
we
can
actually
physically
move
the
lines
and
look
at
the
numbers.
B
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
did
this.
This
is
my
first
round
I
mean
I
don't
want
this
to
become
a
logistical
nightmare.
Either
I
mean
there's
people
who've
done
this
before
I
don't
know.
If,
10
years
ago
we
had
the
technology
to
do
it
live
like
this,
but
I
don't
know
whether
it
would
make
sense
to
go
around
and
get
everyone's
conceptual
comments
first
and
then
so
that
people
can
take
those
comments
into
account
as
we're
moving
lines.
A
What
I
don't
want
to
do
is
move
a
line
and
then
just
we're
moving
lines
all
night
and
we're
not
making
any
any
progress,
and
it
surely
goes
you've
done
this
many
times.
So
I
I'd
refer
you
and,
and
mr
mr
martinez,
I
know
you
also
have
a
question,
but
logistically
maybe
we
go
around
the
room
around
the
committee.
A
Q
Q
E
P
There
is
one
particular
precinct
because
geographically,
where
it's
located
may
only
have
300
registered
voters,
so
we
had
to
redistribute
certain
people.
As
I
look
at
that
map,
it
reminds
me
of
a
dilemma
we
had
in
1992,
where
we
had
four
city
councilmen
living
within
two
blocks
of
each
other
in
different
districts.
P
P
M
L
B
L
What
I'm
click
when
I
want
to
get
clear
is
for
myself
and
probably
maybe
somebody
else
would
benefit
from
it.
You
move
the
orange
in
this
particular
example
into
another
area,
but
you
didn't
redefine
the
area,
in
other
words,
the
area
that
you
move,
the
orange
into
was
already
a
defined
spot.
Can
we
not
change
the
definition
of
that
area,
for
example
the
one
that
I
gave
earlier
right,
where
it's
albert,
I
believe
that
line
it
doesn't
clearly
state
it,
but
I
think
that
it's
probably
gustavus
street
instead
of
moving
areas.
C
Q
A
Okay,
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding,
okay,
so
terminology
wise,
for
example,
this
this.
Let's
look
at
c,
see
there's
a
bunch
of
numbers
all
over.
You
know
like,
for
example,
the
top
the
zero
three
five
six,
the
voting
precincts;
okay,
just
so
we
so
when
we're
going
through
this
committee,
we
all
know
what
we're
talking
about
we're
gonna
use
voting
precincts
for
my
benefit,
at
least
as
as
what
each
of
those
numbers
represents
right
like
all
the
different
is
that
correct.
Q
M
But
the
sentence
box
has
a
double
meaning.
He
is
correct
as
well
the
the
zero
three
four
five
you
see
over
that
by
district
six
or
the
zero
133
over
here
in
the
district
201.
Those
are
voting
precincts
that
the
county
has
established
already
so,
for
I
guess,
a
better
understanding.
All
the
100s,
the
little
the
numbers
that
you
see
there:
0
133
0
169.,
all
the
100s.
Are
the
commissioner
preaching
one
voting
precinct,
so
those
are
all
mine,
yeah,
the
county
commissioner.
M
So
all
the
100s
belong
to
me
and
those
are
all
the
voting
precincts
and
you
might,
you
might
call
them.
You
know
differently,
the
census
blocks,
but
voting
precincts
now,
nathan.
I
know
you
have
knowledge
in
this
on
both
sides
of
city
and
county.
Can
the
voting
precincts
be
manipulated
here
at
the
city
level?
They
cannot.
That's
me.
B
That's
increased,
which
is
a
question
I
was
going
to
ask
based
on
what
mr
davis
said
a
minute
ago
that
the
county,
and
I'm
not
aware
this
one's
he's,
got
the
latest
and
greatest
information
county
is
adding,
I
think
you
said
10
or
10
plus
precincts.
Yes,
so
those
are
not
shown
here.
Are
they
those
voter
precincts
and
the
populations.
B
Moving
precincts,
if
we
do
it
on
a
precinct
basis,
we're
going
to
have
some
error
right,
because
those
voter
precincts
are,
you
know,
potentially
can
go
in
one
district
or
another
right,
one
council,
district
or
another,
but
we
don't
know
what
they
are
so
and
what
the
ramifications
of
those
moves
are.
So.
Q
P
P
P
P
K
P
We're
only
here
to
consider
plan
b
and
plan
c.
So
if
we're
not
happy
with
plan
a
or
plan
plan
b
and
plan
c,
then
we
have
to
say
we
don't.
We
don't
approve
any
of
these
maps
and
we
want
another
map
brought
back
to
us
because
that's
the
way
the
agenda
item
is
dropped,
so
you're
handcuffing
us
only
to
consider
two
plans
which
may
or
may
not
be
agreeable
to
everybody.
P
S
This
way
is
district
2
going
to
gain
something
how
fair
it
is,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
how
do
we
spread
the
election
and
it
all
comes
based
to
what
I
see
is
that
how
true
with
the
census
being
with
the
coronavirus,
I
don't
think
the
census
was
done
right.
Well,
I
believe
that
we
have
more
than
200
people.
So
to
me,
I
think
we
should
stay
with
the
course
that
we
have
why,
because
how
true
is
the
census?
It's
not
right,
as
I
knew
people
that
just
threw
it
away.
S
S
A
H
A
B
B
B
A
Yeah,
I
think,
big
picture.
We
are
obviously
only
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
Procedurally,
I
think
this
committee
is
going
to
ultimately
give
you
a
recommendation
that
goes
to
council,
so
I
understand
everyone's
concerns,
but
the
goal
I
guess
me
is,
as
chairman
is
to
try
to
just
come
up
with
the
best
that
we
can.
It's
not
going
to
be
perfect
and
plus
it's
not
going
to
be
binding
because
it's
going
to
go
to
city
council
anyway.
So
I
think
the
the
goal
of
today
is
everyone
to
voice
their
conceptual
concerns.
H
C
Well,
I
I
know
you've.
I've
heard
it
more
than
once
that
we're
here
to
represent
our
district.
I
was
appointed
by
alberto
torres,
who
did
not
give
me
any
instructions
other
than
to
serve.
I
represent
ruben
gutierrez
district
5..
I
thought
I
came
here
simply
as
a
citizen
to
make
sure
that
the
task
was
going
to
be
done,
and
my
understanding
is
that
the
task
is
that
we've
come
away
with
district
maps
that
basically
have
assured
as
much
as
possible
an
equitable
distribution
of
numbers.
C
That's
what
I
thought
my
assignment
was
not
necessarily
to
represent
one
district,
but
frankly
I
I
live
in
one
and
I
was
assigned
by
another.
I
I
was
interested
in
seeing
what
mr
rios
I
was
I'm
assuming
that
since
you've
already
had
a
consultant
who
was
working,
the
numbers
and
working-
and
I
understand
the
neighborhood
concern,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
try
to
keep
our
neighborhoods
and
our
communities
intact,
but
I
thought
our
ultimate
goal
was
simply
mainly
to
make
sure
that
every
district
is
equitably
represented
in
numbers.
C
C
A
particular
district
folks,
I'm
here
as
a
citizen,
making
wanting
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
equally
represented.
That
was
my
assignment,
that's
cool,
so
listen
to
mr
castro's
concerns
about
the
accuracy
and
mr
deal
about
keeping
everything
together,
not
too
much
rooney
as
well.
I
mean
obviously.
O
Q
Q
B
B
B
S
B
H
B
Yeah
I
understand,
but
when
I'm
looking
at
it
over
here
I'm
having
to
go
back
and
forward
between
them
and
I
can't
visualize,
you
know,
I
see
a
little
strip
there
and
say
well,
probably
not
a
lot
of
people
there,
but
now
I
gotta
go
find
the
number
rather
than
having
it
right
there
for
me.
So
I
can
see.
Oh,
I
see
those
those
kinds
of
minor
changes.
G
It
seems
like
councils,
six,
seven
and
eight
are
the
same
in
terms
of
deviation
and
population
for
plan
b
and
c
right.
Could
you,
I
guess
just
to
make
it
easier
on
everyone
instead
of
going
back
and
forth,
could
you
just
explain
the
changes
that
happened?
It
looks
like
it
was
mostly
in
the
south
between.
Q
Q
B
B
Q
Those
numbers
that
you
see
in
there-
those
are
the
numbers
per
census,
block
the
on
top
or
the
bottom.
The
top
is
for
the
total
for
each
district.
There's
eight
districts,
yeah,
here's,
your
total
population
and
the
little
squares
down
here.
That's
where
the
the
numbers
for
the
population
in
each
any
city
block
you've
got
it
yeah.
E
S
C
O
E
Q
E
Where
I've
got
a
little
bit
of
confusion
is
to
what
mr
rebecca
hammer
was
talking
about
earlier
and
some
of
the
other
gentlemen
and
ladies
about
the
boundary
lines.
So
if
we
were
to
move
that
one
line
from
gustavo's
to
clark
I
mean,
wouldn't
you
see
the
numbers
where
you?
You
grew
a
thousand
people,
and
this
one
lost
a
thousand
to
manipulate
and
you're
telling
me
that
once
the
black
line
is
there,
we
cannot
mess
with
that.
Q
B
B
L
L
N
L
B
You're,
basically
asking
can
you
take
that
that
roll?
That's
the
green
and
the
gold
and
say
I
want
to
move
that
gold
over
one
block
turns
one
block
over.
So
basically,
as
I'm
seeing
him
work,
this
the
system
he's
highlighting
the
square,
and
then
it
moves
over
right.
So
he
can
highlight
the
area
is
what
I'm
doing.
R
B
R
Q
B
N
L
Is
where
I
was
getting?
That
is,
how
are
we
doing
about
this
because
it's
obviously
that's
not
a
make
or
break
for
anything.
It's
just
that
when
I
did
this
back,
I
used
to
be
the
elections
administrator
for
years
and
when
we
did
the
census
it
was
thrown
on
me
back
in
2000
for
the
voting
precincts
and
so
what
I
did
when
it
was
tasked
with
me.
I
didn't
have
the
decision.
L
Your
neighbor
across
the
street,
isn't
you
clark
boulevard,
that's
makes
it.
You
know.
I
hope
that
makes
sense,
and
so
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
do,
not
because
that's
I
don't
have
to
have
that
or
I'm
going
to
die
it's
just
as
a
perfect
example
of
how
we
can
move
this
line
to
where
it
makes
sense.
L
L
B
We
did
not.
We
did
not
change
anything
seven
six.
There
were
no
changes
to
that
area.
Okay,
there,
as
is
you'll,
see
the
boundary
lines
how
they
go.
District
seven
comes
into
del
mar
a
little
bit.
You'll
see
that
off
of
del
mar
that
that's
been
there.
The
del
mar
line
the
street.
That's
the
division
between
five
and
six
that
was
left
alone.
B
S
B
B
C
C
I
B
Since
I
didn't
touch
district
five,
that
portion
is
district.
Five
there,
okay,
okay,
I
bumped
out
district
four,
you
know
and
then
mercurio
I
bumped
him
up
also,
and
if
you
go
up
to
district
three
you'll
see
I
also
bumped
him
east
because
they
were
taking
his
west.
So
I
shifted
over,
I
guess
you'd
say.
B
I
B
B
M
B
Then
it
was
changed
this,
the
last
go-round,
I
guess-
and
that
was
given
to
three
but
district
2
used
to
have
the
south
so
just
to
just
to
try
to
get
balance
to
this.
I
put
it
back
into
for
show
or
if
you
guys
want
to
move
it,
we
can
move
it,
but
I
did
that
and
it
three
stayed
in
that
general
area
up
this
way
where
it
used
to
be.
There
was
a
big
change.
B
B
B
L
B
M
B
M
B
A
Talking
making
changes
and
my
idea
is
obviously
we
have
everyone
here
and
everyone's
time
and
effort.
It
could
always
be
a
seat
as
amended.
We
can
always
make
you
know,
I'm
reading
it,
even
maybe
it's
the
lawyer
in
me
even
reading
it.
I
don't
think
it's
necessary
to
take
interview
with
the
way
it's
drafted.
It's
in
parentheses,
there's
textual
and
legal
arguments
with
it.
I
really
think
that
we're
good
to
where
we
can
proceed
and
see
how
far
we
can
get
the
possibility.
B
G
A
B
G
G
It's
really
difficult.
When
we
have
pockets
like
on
the
east,
you
see
a
little
pocket
of
a
neighborhood,
so
as
rectangular
as
we
can
get
district
8
to
be,
I
think
the
better
off
the
neighborhoods
right
now
in
today's
district
boundaries
we
have
suck
at
the
creek
as
most
of
the
eastern
boundary,
which
makes
sense,
but
now
that
we're
going
east
we
can
keep
it
as
straight.
You
know
down
one
of
the
avenues
that
would
probably
be
most
beneficial.
I
don't
know
how
it
works
now
with
the
voting
precinct,
but
if
we
can
try.
M
K
E
M
M
The
voting
precincts
exceeded
the
8
000
registered
voters,
so
we're
going
to
create
us
another
precinct
right
next
to
that
one
we're
not
splitting
we're
just
creating
a
new
one,
because
obviously
we
have
reached
a
capacity
of
8
000
registered
voters
per
voting
precinct.
So
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
we
have.
How
many
did
you
say.
M
P
P
P
L
R
C
Wanted-
and
I
I
know
that
mr
deyes
knows
this
also,
I
know
the
secretary
of
state
has
basically
put
a
hold
on
the
filing
timeline
for
a
precinct
chair
for
this
same
reason,
and
they
will
they
will
be
they.
There
was
an
opening.
They
basically
split
the
the
filing
system
calendar
into
two
closed,
the
first
one
on
december
1st,
but
highly
recommended
to
any
potential
candidate
that
they
not
file.
R
M
B
B
B
B
G
B
B
M
Q
Q
L
I
B
I
So,
like
just
a
question,
do
we
know
the
reason?
Because
we
look
at
district
four
apparently
they're
at
four
percent
now
they're
like
they
just
didn't,
have
growth
because
they're
landlocked
right
and
then
the
other
ones
are
having
growth
because
they're
going
out.
So
that's
that's
the
reason
why
you're
trying
to
get
other.
B
That's
correct.
That's,
like
mr
martinez
was
talking
about
that
earlier
change
happens
with
the
growth
and
stuff
and
then
some
cities
boom
some
some
don't.
You
know
just
some
districts,
because
they're
the
on
on
the
outskirts,
pick
up
new
developments
and
they're
growing.
But,
like
you
said,
district
4,
not
really
anything
happening,
district
8,
another
one
that
you
know
doesn't
have
population.
P
Just
an
observation
we
create,
we
transfer
on
the
map
here
increasing
465
into
increase
into
eight,
because
we
transferred
the
whole
precinct.
You
don't
necessarily
have
to
transfer
the
whole.
That's
correct.
You
can
say
that
precinct
is
made
up
of
three
streets
or
four
streets
and
you
can
say,
hit
the
street
and
you
divide
465
as
a
precinct,
and
you
can
have
half
of
the
precinct
in
in.
B
G
Yeah
I
mean
in
this
case
I
would
like
to
keep.
I
only
said
465
because
it
happens
to
be
a
precinct,
but
I
would
like
to
keep
that
neighborhood
together
with
the
south.
The
southern
part
of
that
precinct
so
keep
the
neighborhood
together,
but
I
also
think
separately
if
we
can
put
343
back
to
where
it
was
so
that
we
look
at
the
numbers
before
that
change,
because
I
think
it
was
just
an.
G
F
C
Yesterday,
yes,
so
the
question
a
few
minutes
ago
was,
I
think
I
heard
this
that
let's
say
you
have
a
county
bridge
a
precinct
and
it's
split
and
it
goes
half
of
it
goes
into
one
district
and
the
other
half
goes
into
the
other
district,
but
it
still
continues
to
be
a
county
precinct
correct,
but
it
doesn't.
That
does
not.
That
does
not
break
just
want
to
make
sure
people
understand
karen.
F
L
Make
a
comment
about
that
sure,
because
I
know
it's
a
really
confusing
thing
for
a
lot
of
people.
The
comments
that
we
had
in
the
back
and
stuff
is
remember
something
when
you
get
your
voter
id
card,
it
tells
you
your
commissioner
precinct
three
city
council
district,
two,
I'm
making
these
numbers
up.
Of
course
your
state
rep,
this,
your
congressional
district
is
this.
L
They
don't
have
to
have
anything
to
do
with
each
other.
That's
not
that's
there
to
let
you
know
which
city
council
district
you're
in
it
has
nothing
to
do.
It
doesn't
have
to
conform
to
the
commissioner's
precincts,
so
a
voting
precinct
as
designated
by
the
county,
who
does
that
right,
they're,
a
division
of
the
state
that
does
that
the
city
council
district
can
split
those
right
down
the
middle
and
it
makes
no
difference
so.
B
Yeah,
if
they
get
split
like
that,
and
I'm
going
to
go
to
my
precinct
to
vote,
am
I
going
to
find
a
situation
where
I'm
voting
in
the
precinct?
Where
there's
a
city
council
this
one
and
then
across
the
street?
Is
the
city
councilman
for
that
one?
And
how
do
you
deal
with
these
against
creating
dual
ballots
or
what.
L
You're
going
to,
if
you're,
going
to
vote
for
a
city
council
district
right
you're,
going
to
it's
going
to
tell
your
voter
certificate,
your
city,
council,
district,
3.
right,
and
so
your
voting
precinct
is
also
designated
there
and
that
that
precinct
would
have
ballots
for
city,
council,
district,
2.
and.
E
B
You're
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
have
a
county
commissioner
down
here
that
I'm
voting
for
in
my
county
and
my
city,
councilman
is
going
to
be
there,
but
on
the
other
side,
there's
going
to
be
a
different
commissioner
with
the
same
council
person.
So
how
do
you
do
that
right?
Because
you
split
the
precinct
so
now
I've
got
the
situation
you're
going
to
do.
L
I
guess
multiple
ballots
right.
We
have
going
to
have
to
have
balance
now.
Look.
I
was
elected
administrator
20
years
ago.
So
let
me
just
tell
you:
we
had
14
different
ballot
styles.
What
does
that
mean?
You
could
go
to
that
precinct
to
vote
and
depending
on
where
you
lived,
you
might
have
been
voting
for
a
commissioner
for
a
city
councilman
or
a
different
city,
councilman
14,
different
ballot,
styles.
Think
about
that.
L
Only
eight
subdivisions
here
and
I
think
that's
the
same
for
the
school
districts
and
it's
smaller
for
the
commissioner,
because
we
have
that
plethora
of
ballots
for
the
different
styles.
I'm
not
saying
it's
preferable
to
split
those
things.
It's
certainly
nice
and
easy
to
keep
it
all
together,
but
there's
nothing
that
locks
you
to
that.
This
might
not
be
cost-effective
right,
it's
definitely
not
cost
effective.
It
means
more
balance.
B
B
P
Have
to
get
a
cut.
Another
element
that
you
may
want
to
consider
is
that
district
6
is
a
high
development
area
right
now,
there's
a
lot
of
land
development,
so
you
can
always
put
district
six,
for
example
at
twenty
nine
thousand,
because
in
the
next
three
years,
okay,
you
may
come
up
to
the
thirty
one
thousand
that
you
wanna
be
at
right.
P
L
Early,
I'm
sorry
determined
for
me.
I
don't
you
all
shoot
this
down
if
you're,
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
don't
think
I
am,
but
it
could
certainly
be.
We
can
only
work
with
the
data
we
have
and
it's
the
census
today
right
or
wrong.
Like
the
gentleman
pointed
out,
it
doesn't
matter
it's
what
we've
been
given.
None
of
us
are
out
there
counting
people
we
have
to
run
here.
I
don't
think
the
city
can
decide
well,
I
know
that
air
is
going
to
grow.
L
P
Numerically,
what
you're
failing
to
see
is
that,
statistically
speaking,
if
you
keep
it
within
the
10
deviation
maximum
that
you
can
do,
and
you
do
a
5
deviation
that
may
be
a
substantial
amount
of
number
of
vote
of
population
that
will
still
keep
you
within
the
margin
of
the
legality
of
doing
it.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
in
district
six,
your
objective
is
to
keep
it
to
31.9.
L
L
But
we're
not
here
to
project
growth
and
to
determine
we
need
to
move
our
numbers,
not
project,
based
on
what
somebody's
opinion
of
our
growth
is.
I
think
what
you're
failing
to
capture
is
that
we
deal
with
what
we
have
in
front
of
us.
That's
what
I
think
we
have
to
do
right,
because
they're
going
to
have
to
prove
this
based
on
what
the
law
says
today
and
what
the
numbers
are
today
and
we
don't
take
account
of
population
growth
every
year
we
don't
know
what
it
is
until
the
next
census.
M
B
M
B
M
M
B
D
C
C
M
F
M
L
B
K
M
B
K
I
I
Numbering
no
you're
just
moving,
I
mean
well,
it
looks
like
you
took
three
and
switched
it
yeah.
It
looks
like
you
took
three
right
here:
okay,
this
is
what
it's
currently
at
right
and
it
goes
three
down
here
two
over
here
and
what
you
propose
for
c
completely
changes
and
gives
number
two
to
three
and
number
three
to
two.
So
I
don't
know
if
this
is
yes,
if.
I
I
L
M
B
M
B
B
I
L
L
M
K
L
M
So
if
you
see
that
picture
nathan-
and
you
you
see
how
the
blue
is
is
two
and
the
three
is
green,
so
they
kind
of
looks
like
a
yin
yang
right
yeah,
but
you
see
how
three
is
wrapping
around
and
it's
connected
to
129,
which
is
not
necessarily
south
south,
but
128
and
132
go
way
south
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
eliminate
here.
So
now
you
have
some
type
of
close
proximity
to
to
his
district
over
here
in
the
heights.
I
L
K
B
He
lives
right
on
the
edge
of
the
northern
point
of
the
grape
and
we
have
to
honor
the
city
councilman's
where
he
lives.
So
I
mean
if,
if
he
didn't
live
there,
three
could
have.
You
know
taken
the
northern
part
of
district
one,
but
because
he
lives
there.
Now
I
have
to
keep
him
in
his
district
and
look
somewhere
else
for
population
two
council
number
230.
I
M
M
Q
K
G
B
G
L
G
L
L
F
M
R
M
F
C
M
M
Q
B
C
N
N
M
M
R
M
Q
L
B
P
H
B
P
B
B
B
B
F
Q
B
B
A
B
L
M
L
L
C
L
I
I
I
F
B
L
I
I
B
B
I
L
K
B
A
Q
S
Q
L
M
L
G
M
K
E
K
E
E
K
C
F
N
C
B
B
E
E
E
I
L
N
N
N
N
N
M
B
B
E
P
E
B
B
R
B
N
A
B
M
B
B
Otherwise
I
mean
the
county
priests
right,
they'll
be
done
on
monday.
I
think
they're,
gonna,
they're,
gonna,
they're
gonna,
prove
on
monday.
That
way,
you
will
know
exactly
what
those
precincts
are
and
what
they,
how
many
people
are
here
and
that
we
may
not
have
to
split
any
precincts,
and
that
would
also
make
it
cheaper
when
the
elections
are
run,
because
the
city's
got
to
pay.
For
that
too.
Absolutely
so.
B
M
A
P
J
C
P
C
And
the
other
thing
I
would
be
really
interested
in
is
once
the
the
commit
the
county
commissioners
have
acted.
Would
it
be
possible
for
when
we
reconvene
whatever
whatever
decisions
they
made,
if
it
would
be
possible
to
see
how
they
would
impact,
what
we've
already
arrived
at
and
what
we
adopted
to
see
if,
in
fact,.
P
P
By
the
way,
once
it
gets
approved
by
the
commissioner's
court,
the
planning,
department
and
elections
department
are
going
to
send
our
map
to
other
sub
subdivisions.
With
that
we
will
administer
the
elections
for
so
they
can
see
what
changes
we've
made.
What
precincts
we
created?
One
thing
I
will
say
all
the
precincts
that
we
created
stay
within
the
current
commissioners
and
precinct
that,
where
they're
at
we
didn't
create,
we
didn't
change
precincts
per.
J
C
Be
that
once
that
happens,
mr
navarro,
that
we
would,
when
we
reconvened
that
by
the
time
we
reconvened
that
you
would
have
been
able
to
to
apply
those
changes
to
what
we've
this,
what
we've
discussed
and
agreed
on,
so
that
we
can
see
if,
in
fact,
it
makes
what
kind
of
impact
it
makes
on
our
maps.
The.
P
B
B
A
Okay,
so
that
occurs
okay,
so
then
I'm
gonna
ask
the
question
then,
because
I
I
think
that
we're
we're
there.
Frankly
in
terms
of
our
recommendation
to
council-
and
I
see
the
lawyer
shaking
his
head,
I
think
you're
right.
I
made
a
lot
of
progress.
We
made
a
lot
of
it,
but
but
are
we
there?
Yet?
How
was
that?
Oh
yeah,
so
what
what
is
close
or
percentage.
A
Can
we
get
further,
I
mean,
could
we
get
there
tonight
if
we're
only
this
small
percent
off
to
where
we
can
get
the
four
percent
and
get
this
done?
I'd
love
to
see
you
all
great
over
a
beer,
but
if
we
can
prevent
coming
back
again,
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
can
address
that,
that's
my
question
and
we
cannot
we
cannot,
but
if
we
legally
can
get
there
today.
L
L
P
P
B
A
Yes,
yes,
we're
voting.
The
motion.
That's
pending
is
mr
brown's
motion
on
holding
everything
in
in
a
veins
but
hold
on
hold
on.
No,
no,
no.
The
motion
I
think,
was
to
adopt
to
to
adopt
the
plan
c
as
modified
as
amended
pending
the
results
of
the
county
precinct.
I
believe
that
was
the
motion
right.
He
was
right
yeah,
so.
N
F
N
B
B
B
A
B
A
L
A
B
So
basically,
what
you're
saying
we're
I'm
looking
at
district,
two
right
next
to
district
two
on
the
side
in
parentheses,
let's
say:
I'm
gonna
put
31
326
right
there.
Yes,
now
it's
not
going
to
manipulate
it's
just
going
to
be
that's
right.
It
would
be
real
helpful
if
you
would
do
it
in
an
acrobat
adobe
file.
So
we
can
make
the
larger
and
smaller
and
look
at
it
because
you
know
I'm
sure
he
can.
He
can
convert
his
maps
to
so
we.
B
B
A
A
On
on
the
holidays
and
everything
else,
I
know
there's
this
pending
issue
on
monday,
but
technically
once
mr
on
monday,
we
can
meet
anytime
after
there,
so
what
we'll
probably
do
is
circulate
emails.
I
think
this
is
gonna,
be
the
easiest
thing.
There's
too
many
sure
circulating
emails
to
try
to
get
some
pros
dates
in
in
december,
if
possible,
and
if
worse
comes
to
worst,
we
have
to
push
it
to
january.
I
guess
we
push
it
to
january.
Unless
anyone
has
other
ideas,
we
have
too
many
schedules
at
issue
right
now,.