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Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number One101320
A
It
is
5
30
32
and
we're
calling
the
meeting
of
the
tax
increment
reinvestment
zone
number
one
to
order
october
13th.
Let's
begin
with
a
second
item
on
the
called
orders.
First
item
on
the
agenda.
Second:
item
on
the
agenda's:
roll
call.
B
Sure
miss
patricia
goldberg
president,
mr.
A
You
very
much
next
item
on
the
agenda
are
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
from
august
18
2020.,
and
these
were
sent
to
us
by
email.
Earlier
I
had
a
chance
to
review
them.
I
don't
I'm
assuming.
All
of
us
have
also
had
a
chance
to
go
through
them.
A
Are
there
any
questions,
changes
deletions
to
the
minutes
as
presented.
E
I
think
I
I
I
didn't
think
I
might
have
consulted,
I
think,
to
the
college
to
put
an
item
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
or
maybe
I
met
them,
I'm
not
too
sure,
but
if
the
staff
can
just
review
the
minutes
and
then
just
if
it's,
if
it,
if
they'll
say
that,
then
to
proceed
with
accepting
them.
E
E
A
Based
on
what
the
minute
show
will
make
that
correction,
if
necessary,
otherwise
others
is
there
anything
else.
No.
A
A
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
all
opposed
always
have
it
very
good.
Next
item
on
the
agenda
citizen
comments
item
four
citizens
are
required
to
fill
out
an
online
witness
card
no
later
than
5
45
pm
and
can
be
found
at
the
city
of
laredo's
website.
Comments
are
limited
to
three
minutes
per
speaker.
No
more
than
three
persons
will
be
allowed
to
speak
on
any
side
of
an
issue.
Speakers
may
not
pass
their
minutes
to
another
speaker.
Comment
should
be
relevant
to
the
city
business
and
delivered
in
a
professional
manner.
A
No
derogatory
remarks
will
be
permitted.
Do
we
have
any
comments
or
any
sign
up
from
citizens.
B
F
A
A
Next
item
is
a
discussion
with
possible
action
regarding
the
workshop
presented
by
able
city
board
member
comments
regarding
the
formation,
the
information
presented
in
the
end
and
any
other
matters
incident
there
too,
and
so
we
know
that
when
we
left
off
at
the
last
meeting,
if
you
review
your
minutes
towards
the
end
able
city
was
going
to
move
forward
with
starting
a
a
focusing
on
the
area,
we
we
had
instructed
them
to
work
on
and
they
were
going
to
start
trying
to
put
numbers
pen
to
paper
so
to
speak
and
coming
up
with
estimates.
G
And
a
couple
of
statements
I'd
like
to
make,
I
have
a
lot
of
other
slides
that
are
backups
to
all
the
information
you're
going
to
see.
I
I
shortened
the
presentation
so
that
we
could
get
directly
to
what
you
all
want
to
see
in
terms
of
the
costs
and
how
we
broke
down
the
areas
and
all
of
that,
if
you
all
need
to
go
back
to
some
other
slide
or
get
some
information,
I
do
have
them
here,
so
we'll
be
able
to
do.
G
G
To
start
from
the
entry
to
the
outlet
mall
from
the
outlaw
mall
to
san
abusine
street,
then
north
to
idaho,
essentially,
an
l
encompassing
the
four
corners
of
the
of
the
plaza
it
would
be
phased
out
and
according
to
and
and
I
don't
have
these
as
phase
one
phase-
two
phase-
three-
it's
up
to
you
to
where
you
want
to
start
and
what?
What
what
you
asked
me
to
really
look
at
is
the
sidewalks,
the
lighting,
trees,
potential,
mural
or
or
use
murals
for
wayfinding
in
the
opinion
of
probable
cost.
G
G
And
I
commend
everybody
to
you
know
going
through
this
process
and-
and
I
have
all
the
synthesis
maps
that
we
went
through-
I'm
if
you
want
to
see
them
later
in
the
presentation.
So
we'll
we'll
begin
with.
G
G
Oh
okay,
I'll
put
it
over
here.
Okay,
so
you
can
see
on
the
right
hand,
side.
I
just
broke
this
down
for
purposes
of
of
discussion
in
the
opinion
of
probable
costs
and
you'll
the
first
one
we're
going
to
start
with
is
the
blue
area.
Then
we're
gonna
go
to
the
peak
area
and
then
we're
gonna
go
to
the
yellow
area.
G
So
in
this
particular
part
of
the
project,
you
can
see
that
we
we
the
highlighted
in
yellow,
is
that
little
leg
that
comes
off
of
salima
street,
because
the
sidewalk
is
so
simple
there
and
easy
to
to
work
with.
But
I
I
just
added
it
in
there
that
includes
the
demolition
and
disposal
of.
What's
there
and
building
a
new
sidewalk,
that's
eight
feet
wide.
G
The
rest
of
it
is
essentially
what
it
would
cost
to
mobilize
to
traffic
control,
demolish
and
dispose
of
concrete,
curb,
concrete
and
concrete.
Curb
both
sides
of
sarajosa
street.
G
Sorry
not
from
the
mall
to
san
diego
street,
because
that's
new,
it's
from
salinas
that
would
be
demolished
and
do
concrete
sidewalks
put
in.
I
have
pictures
which
I'll
show
you
after
we
go
through
these
three
areas
of
all
the
all
the
investigation,
visual
investigation.
We
did
of
all
the
polls
and
obstructions,
and
things
like
that
that
are
on
the
street,
which
are
very
telling
and
we're
starting
to
build
them
up
in
a
in
the
cad.
Drawing
that
will
help
us
do
the
renderings
of
these
areas
in
an
authentic
way.
G
Not
just
not
just
do
something
that
may
or
may
not
actually
exist.
There.
G
So
it
goes
through,
you
can
see
the
list
and
you
can
see
for
yourself
we
what
we
itemized
there's
there's
a
lot
of
little
things
on
the
street
that
need
to
be
moved
and
adjusted,
and
specifically,
there
are
three
poles
that
are
electrical
poles.
Not
all
of
you
went
to
to
do
a
walk
through.
So
I
appreciate
that
bebe
and
henry
or
carol
and
henry
both
it
came
out.
G
G
There's
a
necessity
for
ballers.
We
do
have
a
miscellaneous
allowance
because
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
unforeseen
conditions
and
we
came
up
with
a
number
of
456
720.
G
That's
construction
costs,
and
this
is
again
an
opinion,
a
problem
cause
without
having
all
the
information
we
would
you'll
see
in
the
photographs
that
I'll
show
you
in
a
little
bit.
Just
you
know
how
intense
this
place
is
with
different
things
that
we'll
have
to
contend
with
the
lines
that
you
see
a
light
item
there
there's
three
overhead
lines
across
the
street
that
connect
from
the
main
distributor
poles
across
the
street
into
the
buildings.
G
Those
can
be
buried
at
a
reasonable,
somewhat
reasonable
cost.
I
mean
seventy-five
thousand
dollars.
I
I
and
that's
not.
You
know
that
there's
some.
We
still
need
to
really.
You
know
itemize
that
portion
because
ap
I
spoke
with
tony
yesterday,
they're
willing
to
to
figure
out
the
cost
of
putting
those
underneath.
It
would
really
be
helpful
to
to
do
that.
We
had
to
do
that.
I
need
to
be
the
street
to
one
building
and
about
five
years
ago.
G
It
cost
five
thousand
sorry,
fifteen
thousand
dollars
to
do
and
it
didn't
come.
You
didn't
have
to
take
a
poll
out
and
we
had
to
connect
it
inside
the
building.
In
this
case,
I
I
I
think
you
know
allocated
25
000
per
pole
is
reasonable,
but
we
have
to.
G
We
have
to
really
talk
to
ap
further
to
figure
that
out
holes
that
student
lighting,
the
cable,
the
connections,
the
installation,
all
this
includes
installation.
G
So
when
you
go
down
below
the
first
total
there's
programs,
I
think
there's
a
a
place
where
we
can
do
one
mural,
and
I
would
suggest
that
we
that
you,
that
you
take
at
some
point
ride
by
and
see
those
buildings
that
are
across
the
street,
from
the
mall
and
on
florida
street.
They
really
need
help.
I
can
tell
you
the
facade
improvement
grant
that
the
building
community
development
did
was
very
successful
and
it
helped
a
lot
to
bring
investors
downtown.
G
I
it's
gonna
be
difficult
to
really
get
people,
enticed
with
with
the
condition
of
those
facades
down
there
they're
in
really
bad
shape.
So
I
set
a
a
matching:
grant
amount
there
and
a
mural
amount
and
it's
135
between
the
both
and
the
total.
There
is
591
720
again.
This
is
you
know
without
having.
G
G
What's
not
here,
is
repair
replace,
maintain
an
allocation
of
reserves
if
possible,
since
since
it's
it's
really
having
to
do
with
the
improvements
that
were
made,
I
don't
know
if
this
is
completely
allowable,
but
since
we're
dealing
with
lighting
and
plants
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
I
there's
got
to
be
some
kind
of
reserve,
I
I
I'd
like
to
defer
to
darcy
so
that
you
know
when
we
meet
with
them,
that
that's
a
question
that
we
ask
them.
How
do
if
they
do?
G
Other
churches
accomplish
that
that
are
not
that
do
not
have
a
management
district.
Maybe
they
do
and
then,
of
course,
there's
some
project.
Soft
costs
and
I
just
have
to
get
through
just
you
know,
figure
out
what
we're
gonna
do
first
and
then
I
can
meet
with
some
consultants
on
the
survey.
G
This
is
essentially
all
of
it
is
a
civil
project
so
which
is
really
good.
I
mean
it's
just
in
that
town,
they're,
always
doing
civil
work,
repairing
streets
and
sidewalks
and
letting
out
contracts
for
sidewalks.
In
fact,
I
got
most
of
my
numbers
from
a
project
that
was
just
finished
their
unit
numbers
so
they're
pretty
fresh.
A
G
Okay,
this
is
just
showing
you
what
we've
been
doing
all
those
numbers
there
are
from
webcam
we're,
starting
to
identify
the
property
owners
on
the
streets
and
getting
those
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
different
issues
on
the
sidewalks
and
cataloging
them
cataloging,
where
all
those
polls
are
so
that
we
can
move
forward
in
a
in
an
intelligent
and
precise
manner.
G
G
This
one
is
the,
as
you
can
imagine
came
out
more.
However,
I
want
to
direct
you
to
the
highlighted
part,
because
that
includes
some
monies,
for
the
plaza
the
and
some
repairs
in
the
in
the
actual
plaza,
so
those
could
conceivably
be
taken
out
for
a
completely
different.
I
guess
phase
for
this,
for
this
particular
part
of
the
project
it
could
come
later.
G
Removal
of
the
pavers,
the
colonial
clay,
brick
pavers,
that
are
there
and
disposal
and
the
and
new
concrete
leaders
equal
to
those
that
are
exist
already
around
the
center
for
the
arts
vba
partially
on
I
mean
because
there's
you
know
about
four
different
kinds
of
papers,
but
partially
into
tangelo
and
even
partially
around
here
I
mean
they
filled
in
gaps
with
some
of
those
it
would
all
have
to
be
removed,
and
what
I'm
suggesting
or
we're
suggesting
is
that
they
be
replaced
with
the
same
ones
that
they
used
over
around
the
center
for
the
rtba
they're,
very
good
they're,
that
jagged
type
of
brick
is
used
so
that
when
cars
turn
and
movement,
there's
not
a
lot
of
displacement
of
those
bricks.
G
That's
why
those
bricks
around
the
plaza
are
all
messed
up,
because
when
cars
turn
they
they
disjoint
them,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
movement.
Those
other
ones
have
lasted
a
long
time
and
there
and
they're
pretty
good
to
maintain.
G
Also,
if
the
painting
at
the
cathedral
is
a
brick
paver
as
well
now,
of
course,
on
the
sidewalks,
they
don't
have
to
be
jagged,
but
we
can
take
the
color,
that's
there,
and
actually,
I
think
it's
the
same
as
it
looks
exactly
the
same
as
the
other
one
on
the
street
that
same
color
and
so
there'll
be
uniformity
there
and
we're
suggesting
that
all
of
that
come
out
and
go
to
and
connect
to
the
portion
that
we're
doing
that's,
in
other
words,
it'll
all
connect
all
the
way
to
the
mall,
though
every
a
lot
of
this
is
repetition,
I'm
suggesting
for
more
trees.
G
G
We
have
two
lines
that
need
to
be
buried,
they're
simpler
because
I
I
don't
see
as
many
connections
up
at
the
top
but
they're
coming
across
florida
street
and
since
we're
doing
this
work,
I
think
it's
incumbent
or
it's
a
really
good
idea-
that
we
bury
these
so
that
you
know
we
get
some
of
those
pulls
out
of
the
way
our
our
streets
are
narrow,
it's
difficult
and
since
we're
doing
this
work
and
they're
they're,
not
that
I
don't
think
these
are
as
complicated
as
the
other
ones
on
saragosa
between
convent
and
flores.
G
So
we
have
again
a
miscellaneous
allowance,
but
it's
a
contingency
for
unforeseen
conditions.
I
think
most
of
them
have
probably
already
been
found
since
they
already.
You
know
all
that
paperwork
is
fairly
new.
It
was
done
in
the
replaced
and
picked
up
the
late
70s.
G
And
again
I
didn't
see
any
for
the
programs.
I
really
didn't
see
any
place
for
a
mural
in
this
area.
I
didn't
put
one
in
there
and
I
also
put
a
facade
improvement
around
75
000
for
grants,
and
I
think
I
mean
if
we
follow
the
one
that
was
done.
G
G
Thank
you
a
little
work
anyways.
I
also
have
some
reserves
and
then,
of
course,
the
project
costs
now
the
yellow.
If
we
take
the
yellow
part
out,
because
you
can
essentially
take
that
part
out-
that's
another
project
another
day
and
it
would
be,
you
know
less
than
a
million
bucks
just
shy,
and
then
the
other
thing
that
we
could
do
is
look
at
adding
to
the
previous
portion
of
the
project
that
we
did.
G
That
t
and
we
just
added
the
portion
between
convent
and
flores
the
little
leg
that
comes
out,
that's
probably
about
a
175
200
000
project.
So
I
want
you
all
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
well.
G
G
Okay,
so
this
last
part
is
the
tangela
walkway
and
the
connection
all
the
way
to
the
plaza
theater.
I
added
the
other
side
and
I'll
explain
why,
in
the
middle,
the
other
side
of
the
center
for
the
arts
that
portion
that
little
leg,
that's
on
the
other
side
of
the
center
for
the
arts
and
I'll,
tell
you
why.
G
So,
let
me
just
say
and
you'll
see
in
the
pictures
when
I
scroll
through
them.
Let
me
just
say
that
potential
walkway,
in
my
opinion,
needs
to
be
completely
regional.
G
G
Is
in
these
numbers
it's
a
beautiful
walkway,
it
can
be
fixed,
it
could
be
simplified
and
that's
our
recommendation
that
we,
just
you
know,
take
everything
out
and
it
become
a
shared
street.
G
Essentially,
a
shared
street
is
where
the
sidewalks
and
the
and
the
street
are
all
on
one
like
it's,
not
one
level,
but
it's
like
there's
not
like
a
curb
and
gutter
for
the
sidewalks
and
it'll
it'll
it'll
work
wonderfully
and
they'll
be
a
beautiful
addition
to
downtown
and
all
the
improvements
that
are
being
made
so
from
lincoln
street
to
evangel
that
whole
area.
In
fact,
all
the
four
streets
around
the
center
for
the
art
are
in
great
shape.
G
G
It
looks
terrible
to
replace
that
with
the
same
tile,
sorry
concrete
brick
as
the
as
what's
originally
there
would
be
really
great
and-
and
it's
really
the
only
thing
that
needs
to
be
done
there
going
back
to
the
east
side,
the
connection
between
lincoln
and
eugene,
all
that's
being
proposed.
There
is
to
widen
the
sidewalk
a
little
bit.
G
G
It's
we're
on
the
boxes.
Sorry
right
here
we're
on
the
roxas
that
right
here
there's
a
great
wall
for
mural.
I
I
think
one
was
proposed
at
one
point
and
then
this
was
a
while
back
a
few
years
ago
and
then
I
think
the
landmark
board
said
no,
but
I
I
think
I
I
don't
see
why.
Let
me
put
it
that
way,
but
it's
a
great
location
for
a
mural,
so
I
put
an
allocation
there
for
that
and
then
facade
improvements.
They
really
kind
of
need
to
be
here.
G
There's
these
two
buildings,
whatever
is
left
over,
whatever
happens
next
to
the
plaza
theater
and
one
or
two
over
here.
Whoever
gets
in
line
to
do
that
would
be
doing
great
justice
to
this
plaza.
It
would
look
really
beautiful.
G
The
painting
on
the
pla
on
the
center
for
yards
plaza,
is
in
terrible
shape.
I
didn't
put
any
alligator.
G
I
may
have
put
something
for
miscellaneous
repairs:
yeah
that
won't
cover
it,
but
you
know
it
would
be
nice
to
to
fix
up
what
we
could,
because
there
really
is.
There
really
is
not
much
to
be
done
around
there.
We
could
add
trees.
We
could
do
other
stuff
around
there,
but
we
haven't
gotten
to
that
area
and
really
done
the
investigation
as
much
as
we
need
to,
and
and
but
from
what
I
can
tell
by
walking
around
and
writing.
We
haven't
done
a
full
investigation.
It's
it's
a
very
doable
part
of
this
project.
G
Again
we
have.
We
also
have
repair
and
maintenance,
that's
not
included
in
that,
and
then,
of
course,
the
soft
costs,
but
we're
close
in
all
of
them
and
I'll.
Just
take
you
a
little
bit.
This
is
the
first
part
of
sun.
I
was
being
the
second
part,
we're
really
looking
at
all
of
this,
seeing
where
the
replacing
the
trees
all
of
that
stuff.
G
I
just
want
to
take
you
through
these
are
these
are
just
some
of
the
photographs
I'm
going
to
take
them
to
you
really
fast,
so
that
you
can
see.
These
are
one
quarter
of
the
measurements
that
we
took
of
poles
of
just
stuff
sticking
out
of
the
ground
where
tree
wells
are
this.
One
on
the
right
is
on
florida
street.
We
suggest
that
this
this
whole
sidewalk.
In
fact,
it's
in
those
numbers.
G
Again,
as
we
go
down
the
street,
you
can
see
these
are
all
obstruction.
Oh
look
at
the
paving
over
here
you've
seen
that,
but
until
you
actually
really
you
just
there's
so
many
obstructions
everywhere,
I
just
ada
out
the
window.
G
Anyways
we
we
really
went
in
there,
because,
let
me
tell
you
when
you
a
sidewalk,
has
to
be
ada
compliant,
but
you're
not
required
to
take
it
up
to
the
entry.
If
the
entry
isn't
that's
the
problem
of
the
store
owner
and
when
he
does
anything
to
to
it,
he
will
have
to
be
compliant,
which
means
they'll
have
to
do
it
in
the
store.
G
G
G
G
Street
new
new
planting
areas.
A
Very
good,
so
first
I'd
like
the
record
to
show
that
kirby
snyderman
has
joined
the
meeting,
welcome
kirby
and
let's
go
ahead
and
if
you're
volunteering
for
first
comment
go
ahead
and
begin
and
then
I'll
go
to
the
we'll
go
to
each
board
member
one
by
one.
H
The
idea
is
that
we,
we
freeze
the
current
tax
rates
that
go
to
the
city
and
you
take
any
increment
anything
additional
that
comes
in
from
the
improvement
of
values,
and
we
use
that
in
our
fund
to
inject
that
in
and
then
increase
the
tax
values
even
more.
In
other
words,
we
say:
okay,
whatever
the
value
is
the
the
proposed
value.
That's
that's
coming
in
for
this
area.
H
Let's
you
know
for
the
city,
let's
you
only
take
this
amount
more
and
anything
extra
that
comes
in
we'll
we'll
use
that
increment,
but
we'll
try
to
change
this
trajectory.
If
we
don't
do
anything,
the
city
doesn't
do
anything
for
this
area
of
no
new
investment.
Then
the
trajectory
of
this
investment
just
maybe
continues
at
one
or
two
percent.
D
H
But
if
we
take,
if
we
cap
what
the
city
is
going
to
use-
and
we
take
a
few
hundred
thousand
dollars
or
a
few
million-
we
had
helped
originally,
and
we
inject
that
in
strategically
into
the
area,
and
then
we
put
this
the
area
on
a
different
trajectory,
maybe
three
four
percent
a
year
and
we
we
have
an
impact.
We
have
a
a
we
grow,
something
that
starts
to
have
an
impact
on
its
own.
H
If
it
didn't
have
an
impact
on
the
private
space
and
the
value
of
the
private
space,
then
we
didn't
do
our
job
well
and
so
to
me.
The
argument
I
I'll
make
here
for
zaragoza,
and
especially
around
the
plaza,
is
that
we've
got
a
few
property
owners
because
they're
bigger
they're,
bigger
the
bigger
sections,
a
lot
of
the
property
joining
these
streets
is
already
public,
the
plaza
itself.
So
we
make
the
streets
around
the
plaza
greater,
but
the
plaza
itself.
The
park
is
all
public,
so
there's
no
private
there
versus.
H
If
we
went
on
a
street
like
irvide
and
where
there's
already
some
things
happening.
I
know
there's
already
attention
has
been
given
there,
but
if
we,
if
we
build
on,
what's
already
happening
there,
what
what
could
be
the
impact
if
we
improve
the
streetscape
there,
does
it
cause
property
owners
to
say
hey,
you
know
what
city's
doing
some
stuff
here.
Things
are
really
looking
up
on
the
street.
You
know
what
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
buy
this
property,
I'm
gonna
pour
a
hundred
grand
into
it.
I'm
really
gonna
fix
it
up
carol.
H
I
don't
know
if
you're
here
are
you
here
carol.
H
Well,
we
were
having
this
conversation
when
we
went
for
the
walk
with
with
able
cities
and
carol
was
like
man,
I.
Finally,
I
finally
get
a
kirby.
What
you're
trying
to
say.
E
H
You
know
one
of
the
challenges
if
abel
says,
if
you
can
flip
to
the
slide,
that
shows
the
plaza
keep
going,
keep
going.
It
shows
san
augustine
here.
H
If
you
stop
right
here,
if
you
look
on
set
augustine,
okay,
so
there's
another
challenge.
If
we
do
improvements
along
saint
augustine,
you've
got
the
big
parking
lot
on
the
right.
You
know
and
then
on
the
left.
Those
those
buildings
don't
actually
front
san
augustine
so
again
you're
making
improvements
to
a
street.
What's
the
likelihood
it's
going
to
impact
the
property
owner
because
the
the
properties
don't
open
on
san
augustine,
they
front
the
other
streets
and
of
course
the
parking
lot
is
not
something
we're
going
to.
H
You
know
spur
development
on
it's
going
to
remain
a
parking
lot
there
based
on
who
owns
it
and
what
it's
used
for.
So
my
voice
is
just
a
voice
of
concern
here
that
I
don't,
I
think,
this
amount
of
expenditure
and
what
we're
spending
it
on
isn't
going
to
have
the
desired
impact
of
what
the
tours
is
for,
and
that
is
just
for
private
development.
H
I
think
we
could
choose
an
area
and
maybe
what
we
were
talking
about
with
trees
and
lighting.
You
know,
I
think
we
did
trees
and
lighting
strategically
in
a
certain
area
would
have
a
much
bigger
impact
on
private
values
than
this.
I'm
not
sure
there's
going
to
be
much
of
an
impact
at
all
to
property
values,
and
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
spur
private
investment
very
much
now
you
want
to
disagree
with
me.
A
C
So
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that,
so
you
can
keep
those
for
the
record,
hopefully
they
register
and
when
you
close
the
meeting,
but
I
agree
with
kirby.
I
think
I
I
really
think-
and
I
missed
the
last
meeting
I
apologize
for-
that.
I
wasn't
planning
on
missing
it,
but
so
I
wasn't
part
of
how
you
guys,
I
guess,
condense,
the
areas
which
I
agree.
There
are
areas
of
interest.
C
But
to
me
the
itorvide
area
from
from
santa
ursula
to
flores
is
an
area
that
could
get
activated
in
the
manner
that
kirby's
mentioning,
I
also
think,
maybe
not
activation
in
the
form
of
tax
value
on
saragosa.
But
I
know
the
county
has
some
plans
and
hopefully
they
still
put
some
county
bond
money
to
activate
some
of
the
properties.
C
On
that.
I
think
it's,
the
800
block
of
saragosa
there's
a
few
there
I
know
once
been
for
sale
hasn't
sold,
but
but
maybe
there's
there's
some
aesthetic
value
there
and
cultural
value
there
that
we
can
tie
in
and
maybe
it's
just
a
gateway.
C
Maybe
it's
not
a
sidewalk
improvement
project,
but
I
really
would
like
to
to
take
the
opportunity.
I
don't
want
to
belabor
this
anymore.
We've
been
in
planning
for
so
long.
I
feel
like
we're
just
going
in
circles,
but
I
do
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
look
at
what
they've
put
on
paper.
I'm
doing
this
from
my
phone,
so
I
don't.
C
I
I've
been
trying
to
focus
on
the
numbers,
but
I
didn't
see
any
lighting
I
may
have
missed
it,
maybe
it's
there,
but
I
think
I
do
agree
that
I
think
kirby
hit
that
you
know
also
that
on
the
nail
on
the
head,
I
think
we
can
do
a
lot
with
lighting
and
probably
not
expand
our
areas
very
much,
but
but
do
concentrate
efforts
to
to
get
these
property
owners
to
feel
like
they.
They
should
continue
to
invest
in
an
area
that
that's
even
now
more
depressed
than
it's
ever
been.
C
C
I
I
really
and
henry
I
kind
of
took
I
know
you
didn't,
have
that
strip
and
you're
originally
in
your
in
your
top
of
mind
for
you
and
then
I
said
well,
the
tangible's
got
to
be
on
for
that
tripping
the
tripping
hazard
that
it
is
and
and
because
it's
an
attractive
place
for
visitors,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
find
a
balance.
C
So
for
me,
I'd
like
the
opportunity
to
look
at
what's
been
presented
in
the
numbers
and
in
very
short
order,
come
back
along
the
strategy
that
kirby
mentioned
and
trying
to
balance
all
these
these
areas-
I
I
you
know,
I
don't
think
we've
ever
discussed,
putting
anything
on
flores.
If
we
take
that
the
idea
that
well
we'd
come
full
circle
include
flores,
we
could
do
that
on
any
block.
You
know,
so
I
want
to
thank
able
city
for
again
putting
together
a
good,
a
great
presentation.
C
I
think
in
a
week
or
two
I
think,
we'd
be
ready
to
take
action
if
it's
nick
I'd
be
ready
next
week.
I
just
need
a
few
days
to
look
at
what
what
we
have
and
and
and
then
we
can
go
from
there
thanks
henry
for
the
time.
A
Very
good,
any
other
board
members.
A
Okay,
so
I
I
agree,
I
I
first
of
all
able
city
thank
you
for
the
presentation
I
think
sitting
down
and
looking
at
it
looking
at.
It
is
going
to
help
us
comment
specifically
because
there's
a
budget
now
attached
arturo
made
a
couple
of
garcia,
made
a
couple
of
comments
on
the
chat
area,
and
I
think
it's
something
we
take
into
consideration
when
we're
talking
about
this.
A
But
we
need
to
get
to
able
city
the
comment
comments
of
the
board
members
so
that
they
can
refine
this
just
one
one
more
time
so
to
speak.
So
we
can
take
action.
I'm
wondering
if
we
couldn't
get
this
information
to
able
city
by
the
end
of
this
week,
so
that
we
can
meet
again
next
week
so
that
we
can
receive
the
I'm
sorry
so
that
we
can
receive
the
information
from
able
city
prior
to
meeting.
G
Okay,
we
did
the
email
comment,
and
this
is
what
you're
suggesting
to
send
the
the
presentation
this
one
and
all
the
other
stuff
that
goes
with
it,
and
that
way
you
can
make
comments
on
it
and
then
we
table
we
do.
A
tabulation
of
comments
like
we
did
here.
A
Yeah,
I
I
don't
know
how
much
if
we
need
to
tabulate
anymore,
because
we
know
we're
the
the
improvements
we
we
we've
refined
them.
We
know,
we've
talked
about
lights,
we
talked
about
trees,
we
narrowed
it
down
to
four,
maybe
five.
I
need
to
review
the
notes
for
that.
So
that
part
is
already
narrowed
down.
A
Right
and
that
that's
what
we
want
to
take
viviana,
we
want
to
take
this
presentation
that
you
had
if
that
could
be
said
to
us.
Okay,
if
it
would
like
a
prior
presentation,
that's
fine!
Please
ask
for
it,
but
definitely,
let's
just
complete
this
one.
G
We
very
good
okay,
but
there's.
Let
me
just
say
that
it
was
pretty
emphatic
at
the
last
meeting
that
this
like
we
want
to
see
numbers
on
this
and
yeah
break
down.
However,
you
want,
but
this
is
where
we're
going
to
concentrate
on.
G
I
mean
it
was
discussed
and
I
guess
you'll
see
that
the
meeting
minutes
when
you
get
them,
but
I
I
I
didn't
even
I
I
think
he
it
was
pretty
clear
that
you
know
there
was
a
desire
to
go
there
and
then
it
was
pulled
back
at
the
last
meeting
like
no
and
I
think
the
person
I
think
both
veda
and
patty
had
strong
concerns
about
that
and
yeah.
A
And
that's
fine
because
those
comments
we
can
still
be
put,
I
mean
we
can
still
adjust
this
slightly,
because
what
we're
talking
about
is
an
additional
street.
You
know
going
down
the
street
a
little
bit.
I
I
that's
what
we
want
the
the
board
members
to
comment
on
now.
So
we're
saying
you
know,
let's
pay
attention
of
santa,
usually.
A
A
This
jose
castillo
has
just
if
you
didn't
read
it
check
the
chat
box
because
he
tells
us
how
much
is
available
and
remember
we're
talking
about
going
to
the
city
to
see
if
there's
something
we
can
leverage
based
on
this,
although
we've
been
told
that
it's
going
to
be
very
difficult
to
leverage
this
for
with
additional
monies,
but
I
think
it's
we
need
to
talk.
We
need
to
at
least
keep
in
mind
that
this
is
a
starting
point
and
it's
not
going
to
grow.
A
You
know
too
much
more
larger
than
much
larger
than
this
one
and
two
kirby
summed
it
up
very
well
is
what
we're
agreeing
to
going
to
incentivize
the
private
sector
in
that
area.
To
do
something.
E
Mr
chairman
henry,
thank
you
very
much
for
giving
me
a
few
minutes.
I
just
want
to
just
mention
you
know.
I
really
need
to
you
guys
know
I've
been
really
pushing
hard,
so
we
can
start
moving
dirt
and
you
know
I
think
we
need
to
keep
the
eye
on
the
prize
like
I
say,
and
keep
our
our
our
target
still
in
sight,
because
I
mean
right
now
is
the
prime
time
to
do
it.
E
You've
got
covet
and
everything's
kind
of
slowed
down
empty
buildings
everywhere,
and
you
know
once
the
economy
starts
moving
mid
next
year
I
mean
we,
wouldn't
we
don't
want
to
be
doing
construction,
removing
an
entire
street
while
everybody's
trying
to
get
their
business
started
again,
so
we
need
to
get
this
thing
started
as
soon
as
possible.
That's
that's
all
I
want
to
just
kind
of
mention
I've
seen
the
way
when
we
go
in
there
on
terra
street
and
we're
there
for
two
three
months
and
you
devastate
a
business.
E
H
Keep
moving
if
I
can
comment
on
that.
Yes
dude!
Yes,
please
yeah.
My
comment
to
that
would
be
with
800
000.
We
should
not
be
tearing
up
any
streets,
we
don't
have
money
for
construction,
so
I
know
we
put
that
in
there,
but
wow
600
grand
for
pavers.
I
mean
that's
just
we're
going
to
go
through
all
that
money
and
it's
not
gonna
have
really
the
intended
impact,
and
so
what
we're
talking
about
here,
I
think
we
still
need
to
talk
about
lighting
and
streets.
H
I
think
we
really
need
to
be
realistic
about
the
impact
we
can
have
and
I
still
hope
we
can
still
have
the
discussion
about
where
to
do
this.
You
know
I
walked
with
carol
me
and
carol
enable
cities
we
walked,
and
we
talked
about
this
and
I
talked
with
carol
about
the
idea
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
incentivizing
after
walking
that
the
end
of
the
conversation
she
said,
that's
why
I
wish
she
was
here
to
say
it
was
you
know
what
kirby
I
get
it?
D
H
We
going
to
change
saint
augustine
plaza
from
a
park
to
businesses.
No,
it's
going
to
stay
apart.
Are
we
going
to
change
that
parking
lot?
No,
are
we
going
to
change
what
happens
at
la
fasada?
No
they're
they're
already
doing
their
thing
and
they're
kind
of
at
their
peak,
where
they're
going
to
be
we're
not
going
to
impact
those,
but
there's
still
a
lot
of,
even
though
there's
something
already
happening
on
ether
b-day
and
the
best
argument
I
heard
from
not
spending
more
money
on
ether.
B-Day
was
hey,
we
already
focused
on
there.
H
We
need
to
focus
somewhere
else.
Well,
my
argument
is
yeah.
That's
that's
like
the
best
thing
downtown's
got
going.
Why
would
you
not
put
more
there?
You
know
if
you've
got
if
you
got
two
kids
and
one's
got
good
grades,
the
other
one
doesn't
which
one
you're
going
to
send
to
college.
You
know
if
you
don't
have
enough
money
to
send
both
you're
going
to
send
the
one.
That's
got
good
grades.
H
They
got
the
best
chance
of
going
to
college
and
right
now
eat
the
bettas
ether
b
has
got
the
good
grades
and
we
got
so
many.
We
got
so
many
buildings
on
ether,
bday
that
are
unoccupied
that
are
vacant
that
are
underutilized
and
man.
If
we
put
some
trees
and
lighting
we
spend,
we
wouldn't
even
have
to
spend
all
800
grand,
but
if
we
spent
that
on
ether
bda
most
of
it,
we
could
make
that
street
an
amazing
street
without.
A
About
the
facial
imprint
and
we're
starting
the
discussion
all
over
again
on
the
the
first
focus
and
remember
unless
we've
changed
unless
something's
changed
and
we
don't
we're
we're
not
worried
about
connecting
the
outlets.
Remember.
A
The
idea
here
is
not
necessarily
to
pave
everything
from
the
outlets
to
the
center,
for
the
arts
pave
up
all
the
all
the
the
the
l.
The
idea
is
to
create
a
connection
so
that
someone's
walking
from
one
point
point
a
to
point
b,
they're
enticed
to
walk
from
point
a
to
point
b,
so
we
create
a
walkable
area
and
someone
that
doesn't
say
I
shouldn't
go
down
that
path,
because
this
doesn't
seem
to
be
something
over
there.
So
I.
H
H
Your
point
very
well,
you
got
you
got
two
ideas.
You
got
the
idea
how
we
can
get
investment
downtown.
You
got
the
I
one
idea
is
we
got
the
mexican
shoppers
shopping
at
the
outlet,
but
they
don't
walk
into
downtown.
What
if
we
could
get
them
into
downtown,
would
they
spend
more
money
and
then
businesses
would
want
to
be
there?
So
that's
one.
That's
one
idea.
That's
this
idea
between
creating
this
nice
walkable
area
to
get
those
mexican
shoppers
in.
H
But
one
thing
I
want
to
highlight
is
the
the
outlet
it's
very
disappointing
and
the
reason
is
because
they
thought
they
could
capture
the
monterey,
the
montereyan
who
was
traveling
from
monterrey
to
san
antonio
and
spend
some
of
their
money.
The
truth
is
if
something.
H
Stopped
so
what
we
ended
up
getting
was
we
got
the
the
nuevo
laredo
one
who
wants
to
come
and
have
an
american
shopping
experience,
but
doesn't
have
that
much
money
to
spend
yep
and
so
I've
I've
gone
down
to
the
outlet
mall
several
times
and
every
time
I'm
down
there.
I
talk
to
shop
managers.
I
talk
to
retailers.
I
talk
to
to
the
people
who
work
that
I
say:
how's
business
are
people
buying.
How
are
things
going?
A
lot
of
those
businesses
are
locked
into.
D
H
Left
so
that
idea
that
we
can
pull
in
the
mexican
shopper
in
a
downtown
and
that's
our
secret
to
success
for
for
for
getting
some
properties
invigorated
downtown
look.
That
was
an
idea
from
three
or
four
years
ago.
I
know
because
I
was
part
of
the
team
that
put
that
together
and
it
just
hasn't
materialized,
it
hasn't,
and
that
was
pre
coax
it
hasn't
materialized.
So
to
me
I
say
we
send
the
kid.
That's
got
good
grades
to
college
and
that's
either
b
day.
H
It's
in
in
three
years
ago,
when
we
were
doing
our
study
four
years
ago,
there
were
no
bars
on
either
b
day,
or
maybe
there
was
one
since
then,
and
just
in
the
last
two
years
we've
had
10
open
up
and
most
of
those
many
of
those
underneath
to
be
they
or
in
close
vicinity.
So.
A
I
know
we're
starting
to
get
over
the
conversation.
Excuse
me,
excuse
me
yeah,
so
I
I
don't
think
it
was
as
simple
as
just
getting
people
from
the
outlets
to
come
to
the
plaza
as
much
as
connecting
both
areas,
because
if
you
remember
the
idea
was
that
there
was
going
to
be
more
activity
if
there
were
a
conference
center,
the
revitalization
of
the
of
the
cathedral
and
just
make
it
a
walkable
path.
So
it's
not.
It
was
not
just
one
way.
A
It
was
a
two-way
kind
of
deal
and
two,
if
you
know
again.
A
Risking
the
criticism
here
I
hear
from
some
board
members
that
we're
ready
to
move
forward,
and
this
is
what
we
discussed
the
last
time
and
now
we're
starting
to
you,
know
it
not
starting
again,
but
we're
refocusing.
So
if
we,
if
this
is
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
very
often,
we
aren't
going
to
be
getting
to
that
point
to
start.
If
we're
now
going
to
be
saying,
let's
just
put
the
money
into
it
to
be
there
so
guys
we
need
to
make
a
decision,
and
we
need
to
comment
on
this.
Excuse
me
vivian.
A
Let
me
just
finish
and
also
I
I
don't
think
it's
a
sophie's
choice,
kind
of
deal
kirby.
I
I
think
we
need
to
the
the
ters
wasn't
created
just
for
it
to
be
that
was
created
for
a
zone,
it's
supposed
to
benefit
the
zone
and
we've
done
a
good
job
of
narrowing
it
down
and
narrowing
it
down
to
get
to
this
area
here.
A
But
if
the,
if
the
idea
is
just
you
know,
we're
gonna
bring
it
just
to
one
street
street,
then
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
want
comments
from
more
more
comment
or
more
discussion
on
this.
It
is
very
little
money.
I
grant
you
that
much.
I
know
it's
not
much,
but
if
we're
putting
it
back
into
it
alone,
then
or
for
the
most
part,
then
this
is
another
discussion.
G
Yes,
well,
I
just
won
two
things.
You
know.
G
So
maybe
if
we
could,
if
I
could
get
a
little
tour
with
somebody
with
some
of
the
people
who
didn't
go,
we
can
walk
the
same
tour
and
we
can
talk
about
it.
That's
one
thing.
G
G
I
do
want
to
really
stress
that
this
is
the
historic
center
of
the
city,
and
the
words
that
patty
have
has
said
has
have
resonated
in
my
mind,
a
lot
because
I
also
you
know
feel
that
that
you
know
there
should
be
kinds
of
incentive
packages.
G
You
know
that
and
lighting
and
things
that
draw
people
to
things
that
get
more
investment
here,
which
I'm
hoping
will
will
have
a
meeting
a
committee
meeting
with
marcia
darcy
before
we
make
any
final
decision,
and-
and
so
that
does
carry
an
impact
that
that
we
are,
we
have
such
a
historic
center
and
and
there's
so
much
money
being
poured
into
the
plaza
theater
to
the
diocese
and
obviously
the
mall
has
already
happened,
and
we
have
a
very
strong
corporate
company
here
with
la
cosada.
That
is
always
there
to
to.
G
You
know
help
in
any
way
possible.
We
just
haven't
reached
out
in
a
in
a
very
yet
that's
one
of
our
points
that
we
have
to.
We
have
to
talk
to
our
stakeholders
a
little
bit
when
we
finally
have
something
that
we
all
agree
on,
but
anyways.
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
speak
to
marsh
darcy
and
you
know
maybe
friday.
Whoever
has
some
time
event
I'd
like
to
know
a
couple
of
people
who
are
interested
in
doing
that.
A
H
B
Yes,
I
have
the
only
comment
I
I
would
you
know
I
could
be
in
involved
in
the
meeting
on
friday
if
you'd
like.
As
far
as
the
meeting
that
was
scheduled
for
walk
to
walk
the
zone,
I
wasn't
even
aware
of
it
until
it
was
about
to
happen,
so
I
don't
know
how
that
came
to
fruition,
but
I
was
no
like
that.
I
found
out
a
few
hours
before
it.
B
H
A
I
I
agree
with
kirby,
and
I
think
patty
part
of
that
was
the
fact
that
we
needed
to
make
sure
we
didn't
have
four
board
members
board
members
there
so
able
city
was,
did
a
couple
of
deals
a
couple
of
these
walks
at
different
times
with
three
of
us,
so
that
we
didn't
get
to
the
fourth
core.
Fourth,
equally,
in
a
quorum,
but
it
it
we
should
do
another
one.
I
think
that
it
it
wouldn't
hurt
and
it
would
reinforce
a
couple
of
things.
H
A
F
So
sadie
miss
christina
hale
advised
us
that
we
couldn't
have
quorum
in
an
open
setting
like
that,
like
we
couldn't
proceed
with
a
meeting,
but
I
mean
you
can
reach
out
to
her
and
explain
to
her
what
you
all
are
trying
to
do,
and
maybe
you
get
a
different
response,
but
she
advises
and
she
was
actually
going
to
try
to
join
us
for
today's
meeting
to
answer
those
questions.
But
I.
H
F
There's
two
issues,
so
one
is
one:
is
we're
not
being
advised
to
have
meetings
in
person
yet?
But
the
other
issue
is
with
the
opens
meeting
act.
You
can't
have
a
quorum
in
that
type
of
public.
It's
not
considered
like
a
public
meeting.
You
have
to
have
it
in
a
space,
so.
A
A
The
city
of
buda
did
a
walking
tour
of
a
construction
site
in
2019
september.
Travis
county
did
a
walking
tour
of
a
construction
site
for
their
emergency
services
units
in
you
know-
and
I
I
found
a
couple
of
more
so
other
cities
are
doing
walking
tours
of
construction
sites
and
of
projects,
but
we
can't
do
them
in
laredo,
so
someone
needs
to
do
some
homework.
H
Let
me
have
a
conversation
with
legal.
I've
been
involved
in
multiple
in
the
past
and,
and
you
know,
we'll
have
a
conversation,
because
that
would
be
great.
So
I'll
talk
with
legal
about
that.
A
Thank
you,
kirby,
okay,
so
let
me
sensing
that
we're
already
at
the
hour
point-
and
I
know
that
the
meeting
is-
I
made
a
mistake,
the
last
time
the
the
meeting
is
for
an
hour
or
is
it
an
hour
and
a
half.
E
I
I
think,
mr
chairman,
I
think
we
just
need
time
to
soak
this
stuff.
In
I
mean
I
don't
like
keeping
with
the
meeting
on
any
longer
that
we
can
get
an
email
with
all
the
information
that
was
provided
in
the
presentation
by
tomorrow.
So
we
can
start
looking
at.
It
would
be
good,
and
then
we
can.
A
A
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
now
is
review
the
information
we
have
make
the
suggestions
we
have
in
writing
to
able
city
and
then
we
need
to
able
city
needs
to
distill
the
information
and
then
bring
it
back
to
us,
but
I
I'm
I'm
thinking
we
need
to
do
this
this
week,
receive
it
tomorrow
at
the
latest
and
then
comment
by
friday
at
the
latest.
In
other
words,
respond
to
able
city.
Can
we
agree
on
that
as
board
members
very
good?
Thank
you.
Second.
A
There
was
a
comment
that
a
board
member
made
in
passing
that
I
think
we
need
to
bring
up
and
that's
for
the
record
able
city
how
or
maybe
city
of
laredo
question
here:
invoicing
us
for
activity.
That's
been
done
to
date.
How
does
that
work.
A
Okay,
it's
been
moved
that
we
receive
a
monthly
report
on
expenses
from
by
able
city
on
the
tourist
project
in
germany
in
general.
Is
there
a
second
to
the
motion?
Second.
D
A
Sensi
no
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye.
All
those
opposed
sign
motion
carries
very
good.
A
Okay,
then,
let
me
turn
to
the
agenda
one
more
time,
the
next
meeting,
so
we
let's
talk
about
meeting
again.
I
know
we
want.
We
don't
want
to
wait
another
month
so
board
members
I'd
like
your
comments.
B
A
Okay,
if
it's
so
kirby,
you
have
a
better
idea
about
whether
we're
able
to
do
the
walking
tour
or
not
by
monday
or
tuesday
of
next
week,
right
I'll.
Try.
A
Right
and
then
and
then
we'll
discuss
it
and
then
we'll
and
we'll
say
something
I
think
we've
been
given
a
feel
for
how
soon
we
want
to
meet,
which
is
soon
honey,
we'll
take
into
account
that
you,
you
would
be
able
to
attend
a
meeting
if
it
were
remote,
but
not
in
person
everywhere
on
tuesday.
Is
that
the
day
is
that
the
only
day
you're
out.
A
A
H
E
Second,
a
second,
mr
simon's
motion.
If
that's
emotion,
that
he's
making.
A
Let's
just
take
it
as
a
suggestion
right
now.
We
don't
need
this
emotion
and
we'll
work
within
that
guideline.
Okay,
okay,
just
in
case
things
change,
because
because
of
the
discussion
with
the
city
on
the
meetings
and
everything,
but
but
it
will
we'll
note
it
again
as
as
an
an
objective
anything
else.
A
Very
good,
then,
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
that
the
meeting
be
adjourned.
C
A
All
those
opposed
same
sign
very
good.
This
meeting
said
adjourned.