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TIRZ Board Meeting 073020
B
B
B
Let
viviana
introduce
that
as
well,
but
what
I
wanted
to
do
make
sure
we
understood
is
that
we
want
to
listen
here
so
that
then,
at
the
end
we
can
comment
and
talk
about
what
we'd
like
them
to
move
forward
with.
So
then
they
come
up
with
a
plan
that
shows
here
is
a
plan
that,
based
on
your
direction,
that
fits
the
budget
fits
a
slightly
larger
budget
budget
and
then
it's
a
an
aggressive
budget
so
to
speak.
B
A
A
B
A
B
Okay,
but
I
do
also
encourage-
and
I
notice
a
number
of
citizens
are
are
here-
are
listening
to
the
presentation
which
I
I'm
really
glad
to
see.
I
would
encourage
you
in
the
chat
section
to
please
register
your
name
and
organization
or
company,
so
that
we
can
have
that
also
as
part
of
our
attendee
list.
So
if
you
will
do
that
through
the
comment
section
of
this,
the
is
it
the
chat
yeah
the
chat
section
of
the
screen.
That
would
be
fantastic.
B
B
B
B
C
C
D
I'm
sorry,
I
was
trying
to
share
my
screen,
but
I
can,
as
far
as
the
the
financial
statements
for
the
tours
as
of
june
30th.
That's.
I
said
this
close
before:
there's
865
000
cash,
there's
14
000
in
a
taxes
receivable
for
a
total
balance
of
879
000,
that's
what
we
have
available
in
the
church
as
of
as
of
right
as
of
june
30th.
D
The
the
other
question
that
was
posed
last
time
was
the
ability
of
the
of
the
thirst
to
be
issue
a
bond.
I
did
contact
our
financial
advisor
and
his
information
that
he
came
back
with.
Is
that
that
we
would
be
able
to
issue
anywhere
from
one
and
a
half
million
to
two
million
dollars
depend
on,
and
that
would
depend
on
the
length
of
the
bond
whether
it's
a
20
year
25
year.
One.
B
E
D
D
D
E
E
F
G
A
C
Yes,
okay
great,
so
we
have
a
jam
pack
presentation
today,
along
with
me,
is
frank
ratnovsky
and
mario
pena,
co-founders
of
able
city
and
planners
and
architects
and
fitwell
ambassadors
and
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
thought.
That's
gone
into
what
we're
going
to
be
presenting
to
you
today,
based
on
the
criteria
that
you
set
up
for
the
for
the
workshop
at
the
last
meeting.
C
C
The
five
big
ideas
we're
starting
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
five
big
ideas
of
the
comprehensive
plan
this
these
were
the
takeaways
from
the
months
that
we
did
civic
engagement
in
different
capacities,
small
stakeholder
groups
to
very
large
groups.
The
five
big
ideas
were
complete
the
streets,
there's
a
there's,
a
graphic
there.
That
shows
what
a
complete
street
looks
like
and,
of
course,
you
see
an
image
of
the
downtown
behind
it.
C
The
downtown
and
the
neighborhoods
in
the
inner
city
are
are
examples
that
have
been
used
to
talk
about
what
a
walkable
neighborhood
is
a
walkable
urban
center
is,
they
are
downtown
and
and
areas
around
downtown
are
built
for
for
becoming
walkable
destinations.
In
fact,
historically,
they
were
walkable
destinations,
make
downtown
great.
What
resonated
almost
in
every
meeting
that
we
had
many
of
you
attended
them.
C
I
so
I
know
I'm
repeating
myself
in
some
of
these
so
plan
new
and
improved
public
spaces,
and
and
and
this
was
another
very
important,
resounding
voice
comment
that
was
made,
as
is
a
prosperous
but
affordable
city.
An
affordable
means
that
there's
access
to
quality
of
life
and
quality
of
place,
regardless
of
of
your
income
level.
C
Well
then,
that's
okay,
we'll
jump
to
the
next
one.
There's
plenty
of
other
things
you
wanna.
So
this
is
a
chat.
This
is
chapter
two
from
the
comprehensive
plan.
It's
dedicated
to
downtown
revitalization
and
historic
preservation.
I'm
there
was
a
bunch
of
community
concerns.
I
have
no
clue.
You
can
see
these
things
on
your
screen,
so
I'm
going
to
just
highlight
some
some
of
them
community
concerns
means
community
in
and
around
the
area
and
across
the
city.
So
there
was
a
desire
to
see
downtown
revitalized,
restore
and
reuse
historic
buildings
bring
bring
back.
G
G
C
I'm
going
to
read
these
out
because
I
think
it's
important
enhancing
the
street
environment
return
one-way
streets
to
two-way
operation.
I
don't
know
if
you
probably
all
realize
this,
but
but
you
may
have
forgotten
how
difficult
it
is
for
somebody
who
really
doesn't
know
the
downtown
to
get
around
downtown.
All
of
you
all
know
which
are
the
one-way
streets.
It's
it's
not
every
alternate
one!
It's
it's!
It's
really
kind
of
you
know.
C
So
only
if
you
know
the
downtown
well
do
you
know
how
to
get
around,
and
that
was
a
a
big
suggestion
was
to
get
all
the
one-way
streets
back
to
two-way
operation
as
much
as
you
could,
access
is
important
to
downtown
it's
very
hard
to
get
to
downtown.
This
is
a
reprieve.
We
all
have
heard
we've
we've,
we've
we've
heard
it
and
we've
heard
how
difficult
it
is.
So
the
access
points
are
important
signage.
All
of
that
is
important
in
in
creating
a
destination
for
the
downtown.
C
C
I
H
B
C
These
are
pages
out
of
the
economic
strategies
for
economic
development,
for
laredo,
angelou
economics
did
this.
I
I
just
want
to
draw
you
to
the
orange
box
over
here.
He
said
this
if
he,
if
he
said
this,
he
must
have
said
this
a
hundred
times
this.
This
is
the
face
of
our
community,
our
downtown
and
and
our
damn.
We
are
blessed
to
have
a
very
beautiful
historic
center
with
buildings
that
offer
a
lot
of
cultural
value
to
the
community.
C
J
C
So
you've
already
seen
this
slide
and
basically
this
is
the
ecosystem
of
districts
and
neighborhoods,
and
I
just
wanted
to
show
it
to
you
again
and
remind
you
where
the
tours
boundaries
are
and
that
it
doesn't
live
alone.
It
lives
in
an
ecosystem
of
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
other
thoughts
on
on
history
and
on
neighborhood
have
have
affected
this
area.
C
C
C
C
C
B
C
C
And
then
we
have
mexican
and
american
generals
and
and
presidents,
it's
really
amazing.
I
have
not
come
across
another
city
that
has
the
original
street
names
of
mexican
and
american
political
person
I
just
haven't.
I
haven't
seen
it
so
if
anybody
knows
of
one
it'd
be
great,
I
even
looked
in
brownsville
and
all
along
the
and
laredo,
I
think,
is
the
only
place
on
the
border
that
has.
F
F
It's
also
interesting
to
note
that
he
did
this
right
about
1880,
so
these
sanborn
maps
are
probably
the
earliest
records
we
have
of
that
expanded
downtown
and,
like
viviana
said
it
was,
you
know,
north
south
or
the
saints
east-west
are
the
the
mexican
and
american
politicians
with
the
exception,
when
you
get
around
the
mall
you're
gonna
see
some
other
names.
He
named
those
streets
after
his
daughters,
so
it's
saints
generals
and
daughters.
C
C
These,
I
think,
are
really
well
one
is
from
1853
before
the
sanborn
maps,
and
both
of
these
are
as
a
matter
of
fact,
but
one
is
talking
about
zaragoza
street
and
the
one
on
the
right
is
talking
about
zaragoza
street
and
the
plaza
and
it's
a
survey
for
that
area,
and
then
on
the
other
side,
which
is
of
course,
part
of
our
impact
area
and,
of
course,
part
of
the
district
or
part
of
the
tours
zone.
Boundaries
is
talking
about
fort
mcintosh
on
the
left,
and
this
was
part
of
the
lease.
H
C
C
B
I
like
that,
but
what
I
also
like
able
city
is
that
you've
presented
an
opportunity
for
us
when
we're
promoting
the
downtown
area
to
also
promote
some
of
this
information,
because
this
is
fascinating,
and
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
tourists
come
for
a
special
kind
of
tourist,
a
historic
kind
of
tourist.
You
know
you
have
ecotourism,
you
have.
You
know
sea
world
kind
of
tourism,
but
you
have
people
who
who
visit
historic
sites
for
a
good
reason
and
that
you
can't
take
away
from
laredo
so
excellent.
B
J
J
I
I
I
just
want
to
mention.
I
appreciate
the
little
history
catch
up
there.
You
know
it's
kind
of
good
to
kind
of
bring
a
base
to
to
the
whole
conversation
and-
and
just
kind
of
you
know,
this
is
one
of
our
biggest
attributes
is
our
history,
and
so
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
guys
for
kind
of
highlighting
this
stuff.
C
H
F
C
C
Let
me
orient
you
a
little
bit
so
so,
let's
talk
about
access
for
for
a
second,
because
we
don't
live
here
in
this
part
of
the
tours.
The
tours
requires
access
from
different
parts
of
the
city
and
there's
very
few
areas
of
access,
so
they're
very
important.
It's
not
like
a
set
laredo
as
a
typology
did
not.
C
Grow
like
other
cities,
where
the
center
of
the
city
is
in
the
middle
and
it
grows
concentrically
around
that
center.
So
access
to
this
part
of
of
the
world
is
very
important,
so
we
have
to
keep
that
in
mind,
because
even
if
we
just
just
put
all
our
eggs
in
the
basket
of
saragosa
street,
you
still
have
to
think
outside
of
sarajosa
street
to
be
able
to
make
that
a
a
valuable
use
of
money
and
resource
or
resources
of
the
tour's
resources.
C
C
So
we
have
also
the
connection
between
on
the
invaluable
street,
which
is
really
an
important
connection
from
all
the
way
from
sakata
creek
to
the
tracks
it.
It
is
a
place
where
a
lot
of
traffic
also
moves
through
from
sacramento
they'll,
come
into
the
valuable
street
and
cross
here.
So
from
a
connector
point
of
view
of
neighborhoods
walkability.
C
It's
important,
but
it's
also
important
because
it
has
a
lot
of
vehicles
that
pass
through
there
from
the
south,
just
as
many
and
probably
equal
amounts
in
both
those
from
houston
street
and
the
idalo
street,
probably
shared
the
same
amount
of
vehicles
probably
a
little
bit
more
on
houston
street,
but
both
of
those
points
are
really
important.
Also
up
at
the
top.
You
have
the
connection
of
washington
street
to
the
college.
As
you
know,
we
are
trying
to
connect
to
the
college.
C
C
C
You
have
again
two
places
that
are
important
of
connectors
to
the
saint
peter's
district
and
then
at
santa
rosa
street
you
have
a
gateway,
a
gateway.
Those
little
arches
are
like
well,
I'm
calling
them
gateway,
they're
monument
or
gateway,
important
markers
of
entry
into
this
area,
the
star
and
the
circles.
Those
intersections
are
all
important
because
they
connect
the
intersection
of
salina
street,
connects
now,
for
instance,
when
improvements
go
into
savage,
you
don't
just
look
at
the
street,
you
can
now
look
at
from
to
grant
or
to
feed
it
and
say:
okay,
that's.
C
We
need
to
tie
those
in
somehow
within
the
first
parts
of
projects
on
sarajosa
street,
because
salinas
street
is
bringing
a
lot
of
pedestrians
down
to
this
part
of
of
the
downtown.
They
a
lot
of
people
go
down,
metro,
they
come
into
elementary
and
they
come
down
salinas
and
either
go
to
colorado
or
they
go
to
the
downtown
to
shop.
C
I
I
Some
of
them
are
may
change
in
in
from
from
one
way
to
two
ways,
and-
and
so
it's
also
it's
good-
that
we
brought
the
perspective
of
the
comp
plan
and
what
in
the
and
the
kirby's
here
from
the
planning
department,
because
there's
initiatives
that
this
tourist
board
needs
to
be
aware
of,
that
might
be
happening
in
short
term
medium
term,
and
so
it
it.
It
is
important
that
we
that
we
broaden
the
perspective,
which
is
what
we
tried
to
do
from
the
beginning.
J
Yeah
we,
I
think
we
generally
understand
that
mario
and
I'm
not
speaking
for
everybody,
but
my
opinion
on
that
is
you
know,
there's
what
is
all
the
time.
So
we
just
gotta
go
with
what
we
got
on
the
ground
right
now
and
you
know
there's
plans
for
a
hundred
thousand
things
in
the
city
to
do.
But
there's
I
mean
there's
only
so
much
that
gets
done.
So
you
know
to
think
that
something's
gonna
happen,
I
mean
potentially
20
years
from
now
I
mean
we
need
to
act
now
with
what
we
got.
H
C
C
C
K
E
C
E
I'm
sure
you're
aware,
but
just
to
make
it
clear
for
all
the
board
members,
the
the
any
project
can
can
the
limitations
that
we
have
to
deal
with
are
the
texas
local
government
code
that
specifies
that
the
projects
have
to
be
spent
within
the
terse,
and
then
they
constrain
what
the
projects
can
be
spent
on.
So,
although
we
may
arbitrarily
decide
as
board
hey,
this
is
where
we
want
to
focus
that
won't
bind
us.
E
The
only
thing
that
binds
us
are
the
boundaries
of
the
tours
and
then
what's
eligible
to
be
spent,
and
I'm
sure
you
know
that
viviana
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
and
then,
if
you're,
if
so,
if
the
question
is,
where
do
we?
Where
do
we
as
a
board,
think
you
know,
would
be
the
best
place
to
within
the
tours
to
focus
projects
just
curious?
Why
san
bernardo
was
left
out.
C
It
hasn't
been
taught
that
somebody,
in
terms
of
like
that's
part
of
the
discussion
that
we're
going
to
have
at
the
end-
or
you
know
it's
not-
that
it's
not
that
it's
being
left
out.
It's
like
now's
the
time
to
have
those
discussions.
That's
why
this
question
is
in
there
is
there.
Something
is
a
place
hey
at
least
that
corner
or
we
need
some
kind
of
monument
sign
there
we
need.
You
know
these
are
important
areas.
C
C
L
L
I've
got
operational
concerns
which
I
expressed
last
time,
which
are
not
necessarily
terse
board
authority
items,
but
definitely
city
management
items
on,
I
think,
with
convent
we've
got
more
maintenance
to
do
than
anything
else.
Then
you
know,
we've
got
a
couple
of
dead
trees
and
you
know,
but
we
got
some
maintenance
issues
and
and
yeah,
maybe
some
storefront
issues
as
well,
but
anyway,
those
are
some
of
my
high
level
comments
on
that
exercise.
C
C
Well,
maybe
this
you
know
locate
some
funds,
for
you
know
on
convent
street,
it's
a
prime
place
for
an
awning
and
canopy
program,
and
so
you
know
that's
some
a
suggestion
that
can
be
done,
but
let's
go
to
the
next
one
and
jump
right
in
okay,
we're
going
to
start
with
something
so
real,
quick.
Let's
take
time,
please
I
really
want
to
leave
as
much
time
as
I
can
for
the
end
of
the
meeting
so
that
we
can
have
a
discussion
on
the
items
that
you
all
want
to
discuss.
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C
Do
an
arch,
but
there
are
examples
of
of
gateway,
arches
for
entertainment
areas
all
over
the
place.
Then
of
course
there's
a
signage
standard
that
should
be
adopted
with
the
city
on
on
the
type
of
signage.
That's
going
to
be
in
the
historic
part
of
the
city
which
is
beyond
you
know
the
tours
boundaries
as
well,
but
there
needs
to
be
a
working
hand
in
hand
to
develop
those
standards
so
that
never
again
will
a
different
kind
of
sign
go
up.
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C
Another
area
of
consideration:
these
are
existing
conditions.
It's
an
entertainment
spine.
There
has
been
improvements
made
on
the
street,
I
think
they're
about
25
years
old.
Now
there
are
some
beautiful
buildings
with
actually
the
original
on
the
corners.
There's
there's
little
columns
that
have
the
original
they're.
Still,
I
guess,
can
be
lit
up,
of
course,
there's
the
entry
off
of
of
santa,
usually
as
a
marker
to
this
area
possible
in
the
parking.
J
I
think
we
need
to
continue
on
with
the
other
two
blocks
that
have
kind
of
developed
with
the
bar
scene
and
try
to
extend
it
to
that
and
and
tie
in
with
the
infrastructure
development
that
the
city
is
doing
with
changing
out
the
water
lines
and
the
sewer
lines.
If
we
could
have
some
coordinated
effort
with
that
would
be
great,
I
think,
and
then
the
other
aspect
of
it.
You
know
the
1300
block
of
it,
you
know
is
a
hot
spot.
You
know
when
you
know
pre-covered
and
hopefully
post-covered.
J
J
Going
back
to
jose's
earlier
comment
that
you
know
you
know:
realistically
we
only
got
so
much
money
to
go
around.
You
know,
and
you
know
I
I
think
prioritizing
you
know
would
be
good.
You
know,
yeah
the
whole
block
would
be
great,
but
you
know
extending
the
two
more
blocks
to
encompass
the
two
blocks
that
have
turned
into
a
mecca
for
entertainment,
on
the
weekends
and
and
then
adding
to
the
other
1300
block
a
little
bit
more.
J
You
know
all
the
the
the
the
the
miss
sprayers
and
everything
else.
Those
are
not
functioning
everything
else,
but
I
think
maybe
adding
decorative
lighting,
like
you
see
in
other
communities
and
stuff
like
that
across
the
street.
To
kind
of
you
know
provide
a
little
bit
more.
You
know,
aviance
would
be
great.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
what
the
board
thinks,
but
my
comments.
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Be
you
know
completely
there's
lots
of
examples
of
these
so
when,
when
you
say
akudo
that
you
know
tying
in
can
be
as
simple
as
doing
a
lighting
project
like
the
one
in
el
paso
on
the
left,
that
is
a
el
paso
street
it
is,
it
has
a
string
lighting,
they
went
all
out
there,
they
have.
You
know
the
poles
for
each
of
them
and
all
of
that,
but
you
know
we
could
talk
to
the
buildings
you.
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C
This
is
the
same
question,
basically
an
important
street
for
consideration
for
true
tours
improvement
plans.
It
could
be
put
in
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
lighting
or
for
signage
or
awnings
or
whatever,
or
it
can
be
a
big
deal.
But
is
it
it's
taking
a
poll
on
just
on
your
interest
in
in
really
looking
at
this
treatise
from
a
little
to
a
lot?
C
Is
a
pedestrian
corridor?
These
are
existing
conditions.
You
have
a
really
nice
picture
of
it
from
from
the
1900s
there's,
there's
a
lot
of
beautiful
old
buildings
on
salinas
street.
They
need
some
love
and
attention.
I've
seen
were
in
worse
condition,
looked
better
and
they
were
done
by
the
facade
improvement
program
that
arturo
had
when
he
was
at
community
development.
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C
So,
mario,
just
to
tell
you
yes,
there
are
historic
guidelines
for
downtown,
but
when
you
do
projects
like
this,
there
are
actually
you
need
to
go.
You
know,
there's
district
standards
so
that
so
that
people
who
are-
and
this
is
across
the
board
with
entertainment
districts
that
you
all
know
and
love
they
they
tell
you
the
standard,
there's
no
deviation.
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If
you're
gonna
use
a
light.
This
is
the
light
it's
got
to
be.
This
quality
is
going
to
be
this
one,
this
color,
if
you're,
going
to
do
something
in
the
right
of
way
that
the
canopy
is
one
way.
These
are
all
standardized
items
within
within
a
within
the
districts
that
you're
trying
to
develop,
and
so
everybody
follows
the
same
thing
year
over
year
and
to
change
them.
It's
like
changing
an
ordinance,
it's
not
just
newly
willy
just
do
it,
however,
you
want.
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So
what
one
last
thing
is
that
is
that
the
improvements
again,
the
improvements
that
are
made
on
these
streets
can
be
from.
You
know,
put
together
a
facade
improvement
grant
or
it
could
be
a
there's
different
programs.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
just
we're
going
to
build
these
improvements
in
there
if
you
are
widening
the
sidewalk.
Yes,
if
you're
trying
to
better
the
quality
of
the
look
of
the
street,
the
aesthetics
of
the
streets,
it's
an
it's
probably.
C
It
this
is
a
a
partial
piece
of
street
that
connects
the
founding
plaza
to
the
original
city
hall
and
market
square,
and
it
connects
it
on
sun
and
just
being
avenue,
and
what
we
are
showing
here
are
the
two
plazas
and
the
connection
everybody's
familiar.
I
think,
with
that
connection,
that
was
that
actually
has
a
paving
surface
on
it
and
some
trees
and
an
attempt
to
string
lights
across.
Sometimes
they
work.
Sometimes
they
don't.
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F
It's
like
well,
I
just
I
mean
I'll
just
say
quickly
and
money
to
take
you
through
it.
So
obviously
we're
all
in
this
pandemic-
and
you
know
our
role
as
architects
and
architects
and
planners
urban
designers
is:
we've
been
helping
and
assisting
clients
bringing
bring
safer
ways
of
bringing
them
back
to
work.
I
Sure,
and,
and
really
the
project
is
how
it's
an
open
streets
project
where
you
you,
you
close
streets
off
from
traffic
temporarily
and
you
open
them
up
for
businesses
to
spill
out
onto
the
street.
It's
it's
a
strategy
being
used
to
make
sure
that
we
have
as
we
as
we
fluctuate
in
capacity
indoors
for
for
restaurants
and
bars
that
that
capacity
can
be
captured
on
the
street
in
a
safe
way,
and
so
this
is
a.
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C
We
have
the
entrance
from
from
the
highway
to
santa
ursula
to
sarawasa.
You've
already
seen
that
on
the
on
on
the
other
side,
if
you
go
to
the
center
small
square,
you
see
the
entry
from
santa
maria,
which
is
a
very
important
entry.
It's
not.
It
has
a
really
nice
connector
on
the
mall.
You
see
that,
unfortunately,
I
wasn't
able
to
put
it
in
these
slides,
but
so
it's
an
important
crosswalk
area.
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It
of
all.
It's
very
unfortunate.
We
fought
as
much
as
we
could
with
to
to
get
the
mall
owners
to
really
think
about
the
street
side
of
the
mall
they
did
in
a
part
of
it,
but
they
needed
to
have
access
for
the
stores
on
the
street
side
to
be
for
loading
and
unloading.
So
we
have
some
difficult
conditions
on
sarajosa
street.
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I
see
a
potential
area
for
a
for
a
huge
mural
there,
but
I
don't
know
how
the
mall
would
feel
about
that.
So
I
would
also
like
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
existing
condition
of
these
two
beautiful
trees.
I
believe
they're
monorail
oaks
and
they
have
been
there
for
a
very
long
time,
they're.
The
only
example
that
I
can
think
of
in
the
city
of
laredo,
where
the
city,
actually
let
the
trees
live
inside
the
street
right
of
way,
they've
been
there
for
a
long
time.
They
paved
around
them
they'd.
Let
them
live.
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These
are
actually
this
this.
This
is
actually
a
it's
very
common
in
spanish
cities
to
see
this
condition
of
trees
in
the
street,
especially
in
the
cajones,
and
also
on
bigger
streets
all
over
europe,
but
in
spain.
So
that's
a
a
really
nice
historical
quotation
on
that
street
that
we
can.
We
can
actually
use
in
the
development
of
sarawasa
street.
Then
you
have
all
the
railing.
I
think
we
have
about
1200
linear
feet.
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That's
there,
because
there
really
is
no
way
to
put
another
pole
on
the
north
side
of
the
street,
and
they
have
very
tall
poles
there
for
lighting
and
he's
looking
into
weak
and
straight
lighting
from
there
to
the
mall
that
will
accentuate
the
street
and
bring
people
down
the
street
it'll
make
it
very
a
very
beautiful
walkable
feeling
also
doing
a
campaign,
a
program
for
railing.
There's
all
sorts
of
examples,
including
railing
that
can
have
you
know
artwork.
It
can
have
laser
cut
panels,
it
can
be.
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It
can
be
the
one
on
the
right
hand,
side
in
the
middle
that
shows
a
canopy
and
decorative
railing
it
can.
The
railing
can
be
incorporated
into
the
canopy
so
that
we
don't
have
to
wait
for
the
buildings
to
have
canopies
or
for
them
to
do
it.
There's
all
sorts
of
little
programs
that
can
be
created
to
to
help
develop
the
street
and
get
it
back
on
course,
and
to
make
it
more
appealing,
aesthetically,
appealing
and
usable
to
to
people,
because
this
this
should
be
a
very
walkable
corridor.
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C
I
want
to
quickly
go
through
these
slides,
because
I
think
you've
already
gotten
a
feel
of
the
different
kinds
of
things
you
can
do,
but
this
is
right
out
of
your
tours.
Plan
on
the
left
is
everything
you
can
spend
money
on.
When
you
do
these
projects
you
can,
you
can
do
paving
and
signalization
and
sidewalks
and
landscape
improvements
and
streetscape
improvements,
signage
and
wayfi.
Everything
that
we've
seen
you
can
do.
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C
Facade
improvements,
invest
in
certain
types
of
projects.
Those
are
that
that's
within
the
capacity
of
how
to
use
your
money
to
achieve
the
things
that
you
want
to
achieve,
because
it
doesn't
matter
how
much
you
put
to
better
a
street.
If
there's
no
business
there,
that's
interested
in
either
an
investing
or
wants
to
invest.
It's
gonna,
probably
not
do
what
what
it
the
what
it
is
that
you
want
it
to
do,
which
is
to
create
a
better
economic
environment
for
this
area.
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C
I
can't
see
it.
I
can't
sign
an
improvement
of
signage,
so
you
can
do
new
and
old
signs.
There's
some
really
great
examples.
I
I'd
like
to
really
thank
our
pluto
garcia
because
he
really
has
a
passion
for
for
recognizing
that
some
beautiful
signs
downtown
and
doing
new
ones
to
reflect
the
quality
of
downtown
there's.
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There's
the
ones
on
the
left
wall
are
familiar
with
the
one
at
the.
I
guess
that
was
hatar
right,
the
that
that
hasn't
worked
for
years.
So
there
could
be
some
some
funding
to
help
those
those
iconic
signs
come
alive
again
and
for
getting
people
to
invest
in
in
signage
downtown,
it
could
be
led,
it
could
be
and
now
led.
I
wanted
to
really
say
that
you
know
there's
neon
and
led
have
kind
of
there's
an
option.
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An
led
that
really
it's
getting
closer
and
closer
to
the
feel
of
neon,
so
there
might
be
some
desire
to
like
hit
to
the
to
the
led
neon
side
rather
than
just
to
the
neon
neon
requires
a
lot
of
maintenance.
But
if
it's
done
to
the
standard,
if
it
follows
a
standard
they'll
last
a
long
time
without
eleven.
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There's
specialty
murals:
we
were
talking
about
this
at
the
last
meeting.
Restoring
those
signs
there's
several
of
them
in
in
the
district
and
the
ones
on
the
right
are
restored.
Once
a
couple
of
those
are
in
el
paso,
it's
it's
much
more
commonly
done
now,
sidewalk
and
pay
the
improvement
program.
This
is
a
a
program
where
you,
you
say:
okay,
here's
the
standard,
we're
always
going
to
hit
to
the
standard.
We've
got
many
choices.
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There's
got
to
be
a
decision,
a
very
strong
decision
by
made
by
the
city
and
this
board
or
anybody
who's
been
to
any
improvements
downtown
to
just
say.
Okay,
it's
play
papers,
it's
concrete
papers,
it's
you
know.
We
have
to
make
a
choice
where
there's
asphalt,
where
there's
going
to
be
clay,
pavers
or
concrete
papers,
there's.
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C
C
They
are
all
around
the
bridge
of
the
americas
project.
We
designed
them
in
a
pattern
that
it
would.
It
would
have
that
quality
of
more
uniformity,
and
it
really
gives
you
the
impression
of
more
of
a
of
a
historic
type
of
payment
than
really
even
the
clay
papers
that
are
really
a
clay.
Pavers
are
a
north
eastern
element.
Really
the
concrete
pavers
work
really
well,
don't
know
why
they're
not
replaced
when
they're
taken
out,
but
they
have
weathered
beautifully.
C
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C
Mr
zaghira
has
tried
to
get
that
awning
fixed,
but
it's
in
the
you
know
when
they
did
the
sidewalks
they
cut
into
the
into
the,
in
other
words
over
the
sidewalk
line.
So
if
a
bus
or
something
high
goes
there,
it
always
scrapes
it.
So
something
has
to
be
done
there
to
help
that
that
corner.
If,
if
the
awning
is
going
to
be
restored,
go
to
this
was
really
exciting.
There's
we
have
to
choose
a
lighting.
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I
spoke
to
jeff
quigg,
who
actually
did
the
improvements.
He
was
a
civil
engineer
for
sarajosa
when
the
mall
was
done
and
I
got
a
roundabout
number
of
what
it
cost
to
put
paving
in,
and
you
know
to
remove
the
asphalt
and
put
baby
and
this
this
is
for
the
area.
Sometimes
I
put
it
in
chunks
there
so
that
you
can
see
it.
C
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C
That's
kind
of
the
main
thrust
of
those
two
blocks.
There's
you
know
other
items
of
cost
in
there.
These
are,
you
know,
could
be
more.
It
could
be
less
it's
very
roundabout
if
we
change
the
paving
and
if
we
do
paving
project
we
need
to
consider
especially
outside
of
western.
We
need
to
consider
what's
going
on
around
the
plaza
there's
four
three
types
of
paintings:
I'm
sorry,
two
types:
it's
stamped
concrete
and.
C
C
H
J
C
C
C
C
H
C
L
C
No,
we
just
did
it
on
this,
but
remember
you
can
take
some
of
this
and
we
can
go
back
to
that
slide
and
we
can
talk
about
that
slide
now.
If
you
want,
you
know,
but
I
think
if
you
can,
I
don't
know
I
think
leslie
you
sent
the
powerpoint
to
everybody,
I
mean
if
you
print
it
out,
you
can
refer
to
certain
things
and
ask
you
to
go
back
or.
B
Whatever,
I
think,
that's
a
good
idea,
so
I
I
think,
but
to
answer
jose's
question
jose
what
they've
done
is
they've
done
a
preliminary
opinion
of
costs
for
a
program
using
only
zaragoza,
not
the
others,
but
this
becomes
kind
of
a
menu
that
you
can
use
in
the
other
streets.
We
talked
about
where
it
would
be,
then
maybe
like
salinas.
L
I
I
think
this
is
a
lot
of
really
good
groundwork,
and
I
would
you
know
I
I'd
be
supportive
of
anybody
wanting
to
take
some
action
today.
It
is
a
lot
of
information.
What
would
I
you
know?
I
have
some
vision
of
what
zaragoza
and
it
could
look
like,
but
I
think
every
every
member
has
probably
a
vision.
L
I
I
would
like
for
us
to
maybe
reconvene,
maybe
not
in
a
month,
but
maybe
in
two
weeks
and
yes
and
just
go
ahead
and
hammer
out
some
activity
based
on
based
on
on
this
breakdown
and
using
the
tools
that
they
created
on
this
presentation
in
general,
I
like
the
idea
of
a
gateway
sign
both
out
in
at
the
zaragoza,
particularly
there
are
some
great
great
separation
issues
in
the
in
that
corridor.
That,
I
think,
would
want
to
be.
It
could
be
addressed.
L
I
the
arturo's
comment
about
the
the
western
strip
or
the
western
part
of
irvide
needs
some
care
as
well,
and
also
some
lighting
would
do
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
good
in
certain
parts.
If
you
can
read
it,
so
I
I
think
if
everybody
would
would
use
the
tools
provided
today
and
kind
of
come
up
with
with
a
succinct
vision
and
then
bring
that
back
to
to
a
meeting.
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
go
30
days.
I
think,
while
this
is
warm
and
everybody's
fresh
with
it,
we
could
come
back.
L
You
know
without
and
two
without
making
a
quorum.
Some
of
us
could
maybe
visit
certain
strips
together,
safe,
distancing
and
kind
of
talk
through,
and
so
those
are
my
comments.
I
the
arts
piece.
I
think
it's
a
good
complimentary,
quick
act
activity.
I
know
last
time
we
discussed
some
of
that.
Whatever
we
do
in
the
arts,
I
I
wouldn't
want
it
to
be
funded
sufficiently,
so
so
that
folks
can
actually
you
know,
do
a
good
job
and
and
and
have
all
the
the
means
to
to
carry
out
an
arch
project.
L
Those
those
restorations
of
I
forget
the
term
on
those
building
signs.
That's
that's
just
beautiful
it's!
You
know
it's
prior
artwork,
you
know,
and
the
business
is
not
there,
but
that
adds
so
much
ambience
to
any
location,
but
we
have
so
much
infrastructure
need
that.
I
think
we're
going
to
be
we're
going
to
be
hammering
on
the
infrastructure,
streetscape
and
and
landscape
that
those
are
my
overall
comments.
J
B
Where
you're
going
with
this
in
this
respect
that
so
we
have
our
thoughts
about
this
because
we've
been
seeing
this
and
I
think
we
need
to
take
this
presentation-
have
it
sent
to
us
so
that
now,
especially
this
light
becomes
a
guideline
we've
already
heard
at
the
very
beginning,
how
much
money
we
have
and
maybe
how
much
more
we
can
leverage
so
using
this
as
a
general
and
enable
city
was
very
clear,
this
is
not
set
in
stone
amount,
it
could
be
double,
it
could
be.
Probably
it
never
will
be
less.
J
B
It
will
be
more
and
our
job
now,
I
think,
is
we
listened
and
we
were
presented
with
some
very
strong
good
examples.
I
mean
there
are
some
things
here
that
I
just
hadn't
thought
about
it.
I
thought
were
excellent
that
I
think
we
need
to.
We
need
to
just
think
about
a
little
bit
more.
Let
it
percolate
in
our
minds.
Let's
do
what
jose
says
and
come
together
in
about
two
weeks
again
after
each
of
the
board,
members
has
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
this.
B
Make
comments,
build
the
comments
into
this,
so
that
abe
and
send
them
to
able
city
so
that
able
cd
sees
them
and
then
begins
to
tell
us
what
the
board
you
know,
the
I
think
able
city
the
the
poll
you
took,
gave
you
some
ideas
and
directions,
and
things
of
that
nature.
This
next
step
in
in
receiving
stronger
feedback
from
the
board
will
also
help
inform
the
next
conversation,
which
will
be
more
a
board
discussion.
This
was
a
listening
discussion
for
the
board
at
this
point,
immediate
workshop,
and
it
needed
to
be.
B
E
H
E
Some
good
time,
but
just
some
clarification,
that
when,
when
we
spend
ter's
money
on
capital
projects,
where
we're
making
physical
improvements,
we
are
limited
to
public,
so
what's
listed
under
grants
with
building
canopy
grants,
historic
signage,
if
that
was
on
a
public
building
or
if
that
was
in
the
public
right
of
way.
Yes,
but
for
per
for
individual
store
owners
know
that
would
not
be
an
eligible
expense
for
the
tours.
E
E
C
E
Well,
churches
are
evolving
at
the
state
level,
sometimes
there's
always
a
little
bit
of
pushback
there's,
certainly
a
gray
area
where,
where
where
dollars
have
been
spent,
and
then
the
states
challenged
that
you
know
on
the
legislature
might
come
back
and
and
amend
it
slightly,
but
as
it
stands
now
for
the
most
part,
capital
improvements
are
just
on
public.
Yes,
you
know
there
are.
There
have
been
some
arrangements
where
ters
is
paying,
for
you
know
the
financing
costs
of
something
that's
private,
but
but
actual
capital.
E
B
J
Can
I
just
add
one
thing
chairman
yeah
just
and
I'd
like
to
hear
carol
and
then
you
know
and
patty
too
you
know
we
we
haven't
heard
from
them
too,
and
the
only
con.
The
only
thing
that's
conscious
in
my
head
is
remember.
We
had
a
lot
of
coordination
meetings
with
the
utilities
and
even
with
these,
the
city,
utilities,
companies
and
all
these
projects
that
we're
looking
at
to
where,
like
let's
say
also,
we
might
think
of
you-
know
repaving
it
with
papers.
J
B
Yeah,
that's
those
aspects,
you're,
absolutely
right
and
something
that
on
our
first
year
of
the
when
the
very
first
year,
the
board
convened
we
spent
almost
the
entire
year
in
our
meetings
with
one
presentation
after
another
presentation
after
another
from
city
departments
telling
us
what
had
already
been
done,
what
had
been
done
and
what
streets
we
could
touch
and
which
tree
true
should
not
touch
because
they
had
projected
that
they
were
going
to
be
working
on
those
streets
in
the
next
five
to
ten
years,
so
it
it.
It
behooves
us
to
review
that.
G
Well,
I
actually
thank
you
arturo
for
for
the
shout
out
there,
but
and
henry
I,
as
you
mentioned
after
the
presentation,
there
are
some
some
things
that
I
hadn't
you
know
a
lot
of.
It
was
familiar
the
photos
and
what
we
discussed
for
years,
but
some
things
that
I
really
hadn't
thought
of-
or
I
really
hadn't
realized
kind
of
a
glaring
issue,
in
my
opinion,
is,
is
the
lack
of
kind
of
the
branding
of
the
area,
and
I
know
arturo
garcia
has
done
a
fabulous
job.
G
G
You
know
we
saw
all
of
those
examples
of
of
the
railings
the
different
kinds
of
railings
that
could
have
been
there
and
what
we
have
now
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
advocating,
for
you-
know,
throw
the
money
at
changing
the
railings,
because
the
railings
are
there
now,
and
maybe
we
could
discuss
that.
But
but
the
point,
the
glaring
point
for
me
is
without
the
guidelines,
whichever
different
city
department.
G
I
I
wish
I
even
knew
what
city
department
I'm
supposed
to
connect
to
as
a
property
owner
in
downtown
laredo,
who
advocates
for
for
me
the
property
owner
or
for
any
of
the
property
owners
where,
where
is
the
voice?
Who
do
I
connect
to
it's
different?
I'm
not
I'm
not
really
sure
who
that
is
or
who,
who
makes
the
decisions
in
regarding
downtown,
because
there's
there's
that
absence,
a
void
of
advocacy
for
the
for
our
area
and,
and
so
the
decisions
that
are
made
are
are
not
uniform.
G
I
heard
you
say
I
heard
able
city
say
that
we
could
spend
some
of
the
money
on
a
branding,
but
we
can't
spend
it
on
marketing
and,
of
course
there
is
that
the
city
can't
be
expected
to
market
our
downtown
area
right.
Yes,
they
do
market.
This
is
as
a
city,
but
not
just
the
downtown
area
right,
which
of
course,
there's
there's
some
of
the
the
departments
in
place
to
do
that.
But
but
we
don't
have
a
bran,
we
don't
have
an
identified
brand.
G
Of
course
I
mean
we
have
a
brand
because
we
have
a
unique
city,
so
we
have
that
brand,
but
but
it's
not
a
formal,
organized
structured
plan
to
to
build
on,
and
you
know
so
for
the
future
to
build
on
that
and
and
the
standards
and
guidelines
to
what
you
know,
what
kind
of
block,
what
are
the
streets
going
to
be?
What
are
the
sidewalks
going
to
be?
What
is
the
lighting
going
to
be?
What
is
the?
What
is
the
color
scheme?
What
is
what
is
our
look,
and
we
don't
have
that?
G
I'm
not
sure
if
how
much
that
would
cost
to
create
at
the
beginning
before
we
start
spending
money
on
projects
that
don't
have
a
uniform
design
plan.
I
guess
and
then
of
course
once
the
the
other
glaring
need
that
I
that
I
could
see
from
the
presentation
is:
is
the
group
of
stakeholders
where
are
they
and
who
connects
to
them?
There's
different
groups
and-
and
we
see
the
identified
different
communities
in
the
downtown
area.
But
but
where
is
the?
G
G
I
really
heard
able
city
say
that
we
can't
market
the
tourists
can't
market,
but
they
can
brand
and-
and
we
have
a
we
of
course
we
have
a
brand
in
laredo
or
laredo
right
and
and
all
the
uniqueness
that
we
are
but
but
it
I
don't,
don't
feel
like
it's
identified
in
writing
so
that
going
forward
you,
we
saw
those
beautiful
arches
in
el
paso
and
and
san
diego.
The
gaslight
district
is
beautiful
and
it's
it's.
G
It's
heavily
branded
the
gaslight
district,
it's
heavily
branded,
and
and
before
we
start
making
improvements,
maybe
we
need
to
find
our
brand
and
identify
it
and,
of
course
you
know
there'll
be
a
cost
there,
but
but
then
we
we
can
go
back
to
that.
That
that's
who
we
are
that's
our
theme
so
to
speak.
I
So
all
good
points,
and-
and
we
keep
on
identifying
this
or
you
keep
pointing
out-
and
we
we
keep
running
up
against
this-
need
for
for
the
some
sort
of
district
to
take
the
reins
on
on.
We
just
said
marketing
and
other
elements
like
that
that
the
first
can't
do,
but
we're
definitely
exposing
the
problem,
which
is
important
in
terms
of
branding
again.
I
I
I
I
F
F
Like
okay
standard
for
it,
I
understand,
but
but
thematically
since
this
board
is
trusted
with
the
public
space
of
our
downtown
and
we
all
agree.
The
importance
of
the
history
of
this
community,
which
makes
us
different
it
makes,
makes
us
authentic
and
we've
got
branding.
I
mean
we
have
a
song
out,
there
called
the
streets
of
laredo
and
that's
what
we're
talking
about
right
now,
the
streets
of
luedo
we're
talking
about
the
some
of
the
history
we
went
over
earlier,
we're
talking
about
our
applauses,
our
public
spaces.
B
H
B
K
K
I
was
under
the
impression
that,
with
the
limited
amount
of
funds,
we
would
really
only
have
enough
money
to
do
infrastructure
improvements
for,
like
maybe
a
block,
possibly
two
and
and
if
that's
the
case,
I
feel
like
it's
kind
of
like
all
over
the
place
now,
as
far
as
where
our
interest
was
when,
for
the
last
year
we've
been
talking
about,
I
would
say,
east
of
convent
and
we
would
wrap
around.
You
know
make
our
way
to
the
center
for
the
arts
and
kind
of
now.
K
The
discussion
is
going
in
different
areas
and
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
about
that
and
then,
like.
I
I
feel
like
if
it's
something
simple,
like
you
know,
string
lights,
to
connect
this
or
string
lights
to
you
know,
extend
the
tour
videos
already
developing
a
bar
district
or
whatever
that's
fine,
because
that's
cosmetic,
but
I
was
under
the
impression
that
infrastructure
was
only
going
to
give
us
like
one
block
you're.
B
Right
the
original
discussion
talked
originally,
I
mean
this
was
years
ago
when
we
first
started
discussing
this
was
the
idea
of
an
all-in
everything.
Do
everything
on
a
square
block
at
about
half
a
million
dollars
which
meant
burying
this
taking
off
street
re-putting
the
papers
doing
the
whole
deal.
So
what
able
city
is
now
giving
us
is
kind
of
a
menu
to
select
from
given
the
budget
we've?
B
B
B
Right
everything,
exact
and
they're
all
within
the
tours,
but
we
have
to
focus
they've
narrowed
it
down
to
three
small
corridors,
so
to
speak
with
one
in
particular
being
focused
on,
and
I
think
now
it's
our
job
to
take
as
patty
notes
what
you,
your
comment
was
very
strong.
We
do
need
to
get
this.
We
need
to
look
at
it
again.
We
need
to
let
it
soak
in
look
at
the
menu
of
costs
and
let's
go
back
to
able
city
and
give
them
comments
based
on
what
they've
given
us
to
prepare
for
the
next
discussion.
K
To
peace,
because
the
other
thing
is
that
I
feel
like
viviana,
I
was
on
the
road
for
90
of
this
call.
So
my
my
connection
was
spotty,
but
I
heard
one
mention
of
convent
and
to
me
convent
is
the
main,
the
main
one
that
people
go
from
from
north
to
south
if
you're,
especially
if
you're
coming
from
the
south.
So
that
was
another
thing
that
I
was
like:
okay,
if
we're
gonna
do
cosmetic
stuff
or
something
that
one
isn't
really
even
really
being
discussed.
C
We
really
looked
at
the
what
the
comments
have
been
on
the
streets
and
some
of
the
motions
that
were
made,
and
there
was
discussions
on
the
street
like
when
you
all
did
street
tours,
so
we
based
it
on
that.
However,
that
doesn't
mean
this.
What
you
saw
is,
you
know,
that's
the
whole
point
of
the
polls
and
all
that
stuff.
C
C
B
K
F
B
E
Kirby,
yes,
I
just
wanted
to
say
again
thanks
able
cities.
Another
thing
I
like
they
did
here
was
to
put
some
preliminary
cost
estimates
so
that
we're
not
just
talking
about
ideas,
we're
we're
framing
everything
within
the
realization
that
we
have
some
limited
funds,
and
you
know,
however,
the
board
decides.
E
You
know
where
I'm
gonna
I'll
be
supportive,
both
as
a
board
member,
but
also
in
the
position
of
the
city,
helping
as
much
as
I
can
with
information
and
helping
to
guide
the
board
with
other
things
that
the
city's
planning
and
other
organizations
that
are
involved
downtown,
and
I
think
one
of
the
interesting
challenges
we
have.
You
know
if
we
had
a
downtown
that
was
on
the
up.
E
If
you
took
the
value
of
the
property
in
the
ters,
the
total
taxable
value
that
it
was
negative
every
year,
or
at
least
the
vast
majority
of
those
years,
we
had
a
declining
net
property
value
in
the
turs,
and
part
of
that
was
because
some
properties
were
taken
off.
The
tax
rolls
because
the
city
and
the
county
have
been
purchasing
property.
E
You
know
just
given
the
climate
we're
in
so
so
that's
the
challenge
we
have.
We
have
got
a
choice
where,
okay,
we
either
spend
some
money,
we
we
would
bond
for
what
little
we
can
and
spend
it
all
at
once
or
we
spend
it
as
it
comes
in
right
now,
we've
eight
hundred
thousand
we're
getting
a
couple
hundred
to
three
hundred
thousand
a
year.
My
only
comment
would
say
as
we're
thinking
through
this.
E
E
Did
we
have
an
impact
on
any
part
of
the
tours
that
made
property
value
start
to
increase
and
businesses
become
interested
in
an
area
and
buildings
get
renovated
and
business
new
businesses
come
in,
whereas
if
we
target
an
area
whatever
that
area
is
whatever
has
a
board,
we
decide
the
best
area
to
spend
it
in.
If
we're
more
targeted,
then
we
can
say
hey
that
had
an
impact
we
we
spent.
We
fixed
up
this
block
on
this
street
and
boom
a
couple
businesses
came
in
because
they
really
like.
Then
we
know
wow
that
was
effective.
E
Let's
duplicate
that
whatever
is
we
decide
to
do
and
viviana?
We
have
some
flexibility
in
in
some
of
the
non-capital
improvement
expenditures
that
have
been
allowed
and,
like
I
said,
ters
is
an
evolving
thing
in
texas,
and
so
you
know
there
there
may
be
some
new
things
that
happened
in
the
last
year
or
two
with
the
legislature
where
we
can
get
a
little
creative,
but
for
the
for
the
I
mean,
for
the
most
part,
we're
talking
about
public
improvements
that
can
be
made,
and
so
that
just
things
to
consider.
C
So
the
way
I
understand
it
just
like
two
seconds
here
is
that,
like,
for
instance,
you
know
when
community
development
had
their
facade
improvement,
grant
like
you
can
match
funds
with
them,
because
you're
matching
funds
with
a
public
entity.
That's
what
I
unders
you
know
like
you
can
put
that
together.
It's
something
to
research
and-
and
I
will
do
that
for
the
next
week.
E
Yeah-
and
you
know
where
the
legislature
has
allowed-
the
interpretation
to
open
up
is
that
if
what
we're
spending
it
on,
maybe
is
on
private,
but
it
is
for
a
public
good.
A
good
example
of
that
is
some
cities.
You
know
stretched
into
a
gray
area
of
affordable
housing
and
they
weren't
necessarily
public
projects.
They
were
private
projects
that
got
that
got.
You
know
public
funding
for
for
affordable
housing,
and
so
they
were
privately
owned,
but
it's
affordable,
housing
and
and
tours
some
monies
tours.
E
Some
tours
monies
were
spent
in
other
cities
on
that
it
was
a
gray
area,
but
you
know
the
legislators
decided
yeah.
That
is
a
public
good,
affordable
housing
is
a
public
good.
So,
but
the
idea
is
that
ter's
money
is
public
money
spent
on
public,
on
public,
good
public
property
for
the
most
part
and
so
not
to
fund
individual
properties.
I
I
wish.
E
B
B
B
D
B
D
B
So
then,
able
city,
I
think
we
understand.
What's
next
right,
we
receive
the
presentations,
we'll
add
comments
to
them,
send
them
back
to
you
so
that
that
becomes
then
the
discussion
for
the
next
meeting
more
board
guided,
but
we're
still
going
to
need
you
to
help
facilitate
it.
But
it's
going
to
be
the
board.
You
know
discussing
the
various
ideas
and
things
that
you've
brought
together.
C
E
C
C
C
E
If
we
were
going
to
have
some
kind
of
impact
on
market
rate
housing,
which
is
you
know,
we've
got
a
lot
of
affordable
housing
in
in
downtown,
but
we
haven't
really
seen
any
market
rate
come
in.
You
know
imagine
there
was
there
was
some
parking
there
available,
but
we
can't
do
that
with
tourist
money.
But
could
we
build
a?
Could
we
help
fund
a
public
parking
garage
that
then
there
was
a
parking
agreement
for
her
residential
to
use.
If
you
could
ask
her
about
that,
I'd
die.
B
Well,
then,
with
one
minute
left
to
go,
I
I
I
think
that
we
we've
discussed
this.
We
certainly
have
so
much
more
to
discuss.
But
again
I
want
to
be
at
this
point
I
can't
say
respectful
semi-respectful
of
your
times.
I
appreciate
the
extra
half
hour
everyone
and
we
will.
Let
me
just
turn
to
able
city
for
any
final
comment
before
we
adjourn.
C
B
Actually,
my
thoughts
have
been
reflected
in
your
comments,
and
I
mean
that
sincerely.
I
haven't
heard
anything
that
any
of
the
board
members
have
said
that
don't
include
what
I've
been
thinking.
There
are
some
things
that
you've
mentioned
that
I
disagree
with,
but
I'll
save
those
for
my
comments,
my
written
comments,
but
I
I
like
the
focus
I
like
the
idea
of
trees.
B
To
be
honest
with
you,
I
think
it
would
be
that
what
struck
me
when
I
did
the
walking
tour
on
connecting
one
end
to
the
other
was
the
fact
that
trees
drew
you
in
and
they
made
you
want
to
walk
in
a
certain
direction.
I
think
trees
can
do
that
for
several
other
areas
and
I
hadn't
I
hadn't
thought
about
how
beautiful
the
simplicity
of
string
lights
was.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
a
giant
flashy,
giant,
canopy
of
lights,
simple
string
lights
say
come
down
this
road.
H
B
G
Well,
I'm
wondering
because
I
really
have
no
idea
what
the
answer
is.
If
for
our
next
meeting,
if
able
city
could
provide
some
kind
of
the
way
you
did
those
cost
estimates,
I
know
they're
they're
variable,
but
what
would
it
I?
What
would
it
take
to
create
some
standards
and
guidelines?
Or
you
know-
and
I
I
guess
we
I'm
not
sure
how
to
go
about
it,
but
it
has
to
work
with
the
city
right
to
to
create
those
guidelines.
G
What
what
kind
of
cost
would
it
be
to
create
the
parameters
that
improvements
could
be
made
like
you,
like?
You,
said,
the
type
of
lighting,
the
color
of
lighting,
the
type
of
pavers,
the
whatever
the
windows,
whatever
the
guidelines
for
for
improving
properties
in
downtown
existing
properties?
I
guess
and.
C
A
G
H
E
Henry,
if
I
can
end
to
that
carol,
finder,
if
I
understand
what
you're
asking
you're
saying
we
want
some
you,
we
would
be
nice
to
have
development
standards
that
so
that,
when
things
are
done,
when
improvements
are
done,
public
improvements
are
done.
Downtown,
they're,
consistent
in
how
they
look
and
how
they're
designed
is
that
what
you're
saying.
M
E
Yes,
that's
a
good
idea
and
we're
you
know,
that's
maybe
something
we
can
address
in
the
in
the
recode
that
we're
working
on
mario,
but
that
is
not
something
that
we
could
use
tours
money
to
pay
for
that
wouldn't
be
considered
administrative
costs
with
the
tours.
That
would
be
considered
a
planning
study
or,
and-
and
we
wouldn't
you
know,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
pay
with
that
with
tourist
funds
if
we
needed
that,
but
I
that
is
something
we
thought
about
and
something
we're
looking
at
when
we're
when
we're
doing
recode
we
haven't.
G
G
I
Like
on
the
I
mean,
if
you're,
if
you're
a
big
enough
city-
and
you
create
a
guideline
around
the
brick,
the
the
the
manufacturer
of
the
brick
is
not
gonna
discontinue
that
brick,
because
because
it's
because
it's
a
standard,
so
you
have
to
look
at
what
other
cities
are
doing,
and
maybe
there's
just
you.
You
have
to
rely
on
that
on
that.
H
E
E
E
You
know,
I
think
arturo
tells
me
about
the
main
street
program
that
they
use
cdgb
funds
for
to
do
it
street,
and
I
saw
a
picture
the
other
day
of
hit
street
before
what
they
did,
because
you
know,
as
somebody
new
that's
only
seen
it
street
only
sees
it
now
in
its
current
form,
that's
a
huge
improvement
and
then,
when
they
put
those
oaks
in,
they
were
smaller.
You
know,
but
now
it's
it's
beautiful,
so
I
I'm
that
tree.
Then
the
tree
yeah
trees
are
I'm.
G
Yeah
the
the
trees
are
also,
I
I
think
I've
heard
some
of
the
people
at
the
city
have
the
concern
that
the
beautiful
with
beautiful
trees
comes,
maintenance
and
and
the
trees
need
to
be
watered.
So
there
needs
to
be
a
program
in
place
to
water
them
and
maybe
just
like
it
in
plant
at
the
entrance
to
plantation
right
off
of
mcpherson,
they
have
a
beautiful
entrance
with
they're
changing
those
flowers
four
times
a
year
five
times
a
year,
the
city's
not
doing
that
right.
G
E
You're
exactly
right
carol,
which
is
why,
if
we
plant
trees
that
require
higher
maintenance
like
oaks
and
that
you
know
it's
sad,
I
walk
around
downtown
and
I
see
so
many
of
they
use
the
iron
ring
planters
that
they
haven't,
they
haven't
opened
up,
and
so
a
lot
of
those
trees
are
gonna
die
because
they're
they're
already
starting
to
choke,
and
it's
just
a
few
more
years.
It's
too
late
on
some
of
those.
It's
too
late,
you,
the
tree's,
gonna
gonna,
die
yeah.
J
E
C
F
G
Who,
what
is
the
department
at
this
like
if
I
was
if
I
was
three
people,
and
I
wanted
to
go
talk
about
a
street
downtown
as
a
stakeholder?
Who,
who
do
I
connect?
Is
there
who
represents?
Well,
I
guess
I
know
there's
the
councilman
right,
but
but
who,
at
this
actual
at
the
city
as
an
employee?
What
group
would
a
downtown
stakeholder
go
to
if
they
had
concerns
about
the
area.
B
E
Well,
that
that's
a
good
point
henry,
but
I
I
wanted
to
get
serious
a
moment
and
just
say
that,
having
worked
in
over
100
cities
across
the
country,
this
is
not
a
pro.
This
is
not
a
problem
unique
to
laredo,
and
that
is
that
multiple
departments
have
multiple
responsibilities
and
sometimes
they're.
You
know,
if
you
think
about
any
other
part
of
town,
you
wouldn't
maybe
someone
in
north
laredo,
wouldn't
say:
hey
who
who's
in
charge
of
north
laredo
and
somebody
in
southwest
who's
in
charge
of
south
dakota.
E
E
B
Okay,
well
sensing
that
sensing
that
the
discussion
on
the
topic
has
has
has
been.
We
we've
voiced
our
our
opinions
and
ideas
on
this
and
having
a
feeling
that
we
know
the
direction
we're
going
to
be
moving
in
and
able
city
said
yes
to
the
question
of.
Do
you
understand
what's
next,
so
all
we
need
to
do
is
work
select
the
date.
Do
we
shall
we,
the
two
weeks
from
now
is
the
next
board
meeting?
M
B
B
B
When
do
we
get
it?
So
let's
say
we
send
it
out.
Let's
say
everybody
gets
a
a
tina.
You
can
help
us
send
out
a
copy
of
the
powerpoint
to
everyone
on
the
board
that
able
city
showed
us
and
we
get
in
the
next
couple
of
days.
Then
we
have
next
week
to
mark
it
up.
That's
the
that's
august
3rd
through
the
7th
and
then
you
can
digest
it
from
the
10th
through
the
14th,
because
we
meet
on
the
18th.
M
B
B
We
need,
I,
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
digest
a
couple
of
board.
Members
said
I
need
to
digest
the
information
that's
been
sent,
so
I
think
our
comments,
although
some
several
of
us
made
comments
at
this
meeting
this
with
the
with
with
the
presentation
just
being
made
sitting
down
and
and
reviewing
the
the
the
presentation
one
more
time.
H
C
B
B
I
I
think
that
some
of
the
funds
need
to
be
spent
on
convent
on
to
do
x
whatever,
but
the
point
being
made
that
I
didn't
hear
enough
about
that
there
so
that
so
then
we
start
talking
about
convent,
maybe
as
being
the
north
south
corridor,
that's
developed
than
salinas,
but
that
discussion
has
to
be.
We
need
to
throw
in
our
thoughts
about
this
we've
been
given
so
so
kirby.
B
Let
me
take
a
step
back
and
let's
build
the
parameters
because
I
think
you're
you're
hitting
it
on
the
head,
so
we've
been
presented
with
zaragoza
and
salinas
primarily
and
ideas
on
what
we
could
see
growing
there.
A
couple
of
board
members
have
said:
I
thank
you,
that's
nice,
but
what
about
convent
or
what
about
x?
B
So
now
is
the
time
to
speak
up
because
we've
done
a
good
job
of
narrowing.
This
remember
at
one
point
and
maybe-
and
you
won't
remember
kurt
because
it
predates
you
on
the
board,
but
the
talk
was
this
big
on
this
much
and
I
think
the
fact
that
we've
gotten
to
focus
on
specific
areas
primarily
because
of
the
budget
is
this
is
a
very
big
deal
right
now,
especially
for
those
of
us.
You
know,
I
think,
patty
and
I
are
probably
the
only
two
that
are
still
from
the
very
beginning
on
the
board.
B
B
E
That's
very
helpful.
Thank
you
now
I
know
a
little
bit
what
you're
looking
for
and
how
that
will
help
able
cities
so
that
I'm
hoping
the
next
time
we
meet
we're
spending
the
bulk
of
the
time
talking
to
each
other,
and
they
can
maybe
refine
a
few
things
and
provide.
But
it's
it's
it's
more.
The
discussion-
and
you
know
just
going
back
to
one
second,
that
you
made
me
think
of
a
great
example.
As
someone
who
loves
to
bike
and
use
active
train
station
walks
to
work
bicycles,
all
the
time.
E
I'd
love
to
see
this
money
being
spent
for
active
transportation,
bicycle
lanes
downtown,
but
the
reality
is
that
probably
won't
encourage
any
new
development
directly.
It
won't
lead
to
something
more.
It
won't
lead
to.
You
know,
may
have
a
positive
improvement
on
the
city
and
maybe
show
an
example
for
the
city
of
something
nice,
but
that
won't
spur
private
development.
F
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B
B
B
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E
Henry
carol
patricia
thank
you
so
much.
You
know
mo
the
rest
of
us
here.
It's
our
job,
we're
getting
paid
to
be
here
but
you're
here,
because
you
care
about
your
downtown.
Well,
we
all
do,
but
you
know
that's
your
only
motivation
here
and
thank
you
all
so
much
for
your
time
and
volunteering.
Of
course
thank.