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From YouTube: Technical Review Board 06/06/18
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A regular meeting of the Technical Review Board ADHOC Committee meeting.
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This
is
where
mr.
Ramon
Chavez
basically
updated
the
committee
providing
you
a
copy
of
what
the
latest
new
pavement
ordinance
and
there
were
some
items
that
weren't
he
wasn't
showing
on
the
hardcopy
had
presented
to
the
committee,
which
the
items
that
are
there
were
three
items:
one
was
the
ash
total
tech
stuff,
the
other
one
was
the
groundwater.
There
was
some
revisions
after
that,
those
initial
revisions
and
they're,
the
ones
that
show
on
the
screen.
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This
is
a
meeting.
This
is
the
may
mean
last
month,
that's
what
we
were
where
we
were.
Mr.
Ramon
Chavez
had
brought
up
how
he
had
provided
some
revised
the
ordinance,
the
wording.
You
know
some.
There
were
some
things
that
were
missing,
and
these
are
the
things
that
were
these.
This
is
what
was
said
on
the
main
meeting.
Okay,
what
you're,
seeing
on
the
screen
and
I
thought
I
had
printed
that
out
for
you
and
paper
copy.
Apparently
it
is,
and.
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So
then
he
also
spoke
on
mr.
Chavez
also
spoke
on
for
the
irrigation
ordinance,
how
it
is
important
for
the
irrigation
ordinance
to
be
looked
at
promptly.
At
this
time,
we
presented
it
to
the
committee
on
in
May
that
it's
basically
in
two
chapters
of
the
Code
of
Ordinances,
chapter
25
of
the
plumbing
code
or
plumbing.
That's
where
ability
department
does
plumbing
inspections
and
then
chapter
31,
there's
a
section
that
speaks
on
irrigation,
mainly
xeriscape.
It's
under
the
water
conservation
so
and
then
mr.
C
Chavez
suggested
to
the
committee
to
establish
some
parameters
to
focus
for
irrigation,
and
basically
he
suggested
three
basic
parameters
which
were
the
location
of
their
irrigation
heads,
inspection
and
enforcement,
and
if
this
these
minutes
are
approved,
that
would
be
what
staff
would
want.
This
committee
to
accomplish
today
is
to
establish
the
scope
of
what
we
will
be
looking
at
for
the
irrigation
ordinance
in
basically
in
these
parameters.
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There
were
some
other
things
that
were
talked
about
that
I
have
here
in
front
of
you,
such
as
things
that
were
asked
us
how
much,
how
many
gallons
per
minute
I
believe
mr.
Deanna's
had
asked.
What
is
a
typical
irrigation
system?
Use
as
and
can
Utilities
Department
with
the
type
of
meters
that
they
have
determine
if
they
have
an
irrigation
system
and
we
can
confirm
because
sometimes
they
come,
they
don't
get
permits,
and-
and
so
we
don't
or
sometimes
they
don't
get
a
meter.
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They
just
put
an
irrigation
system,
so
they
still
need
to
establish
that
they
have
a
backflow
preventer
and
mr.
Chow's
also
pointed
out
that
as
a
and
I
as
a
lot
owner,
they
they
have
the
right
there.
It's
a
homestead.
They
have
a
right
to
install
their
own
sprinkler
system.
So
one
of
the
things
that
the
this
committee
also
talked
about
last
time
was
that
some
kind
of
educational
training
not
only
to
the
irrigate,
errs
and
inspectors
but
to
the
landowner,
are
the
property
owners
that
have
irrigation
systems.
So.
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Obviously
we're
not
going
to
meet
at
2
by
4,
so
we
would
need
to
re
schedule
that,
but
again,
these
were
the
the
things
that
were
discussed
in
the
last
meeting,
which
was
the
location
of
irrigation
heads
inspections
enforcement.
Some
other
things
that
were
talked
about
was
over
watering
over
watering.
How
Mr
Salinas
had
asked?
How
do
we
enforce
the
over
watering
issue?
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Right
now,
staff.
Obviously
we
need
to
reschedule
the
July
4th
meeting.
We
should
have
caught
that
on
at
the
begin
of
the
year
when
we
had
we
always
meet
on
the
first
Wednesday
of
the
month.
It
just
happens
to
be
on
July
the
4th
for
July.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
address
again
the
scope
of
what
we
will
be
discussing
radiation.
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G
Unfortunately,
the
lights
that
go
out
at
City
Council
and
so
that
that
topic
didn't
come
through,
but
at
least
I
just
wanted
to
provide
some
just
feedback
that
that
pretty
much
probably
on
the
next
city
council
he'll
probably
make
the
motion
about
that
and
and
pretty
much
the
idea
or
the
concert
for
concern
is
in
regards
to
being
a
bit
more
flexible
for
the
homeowner.
In
regards
to
the
setback
guaranteeing
from
from
the
CDs
aspect.
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To
remind
everybody,
if
they're
not
aware,
the
discussion
was
to
broaden
the
scope
of
what
an
administrative
platter
is
in
case,
there's
right
now,
there's
very
limited
scenarios
that
qualify
under
the
administrative
plat.
So
for
just
moving
a
lot
line
or
something
to
that
effect.
They
would
have
to
go
to
the
whole
nine
yards
and
since
the
one-stop
shop
has
been
implemented,
that
has
been
the
the
way
planning
and
one-stop
shop
and
building
department
has
been
handling.
It
has
to
go
through
the
whole
nine
yards
of
a
replay.
I
As
I
recall,
it
might
have
changed,
but
it
used
to
be
on
the
on
your
definitions,
all
your
land
development
ordinance.
It's
also
disputed
one
Bob
realize
between
neighbors
that
you
could
go
ahead
and
do
it
through
an
instrument.
You
change
the
boundary
and
you
well.
It
said
it's
not
a
fabrication,
not
creating
a
new
block
and
therefore
you
don't
need
Union
and
credit.
Thank
you.
Your
definitions
on
your
own
chapter
to
your
level
of
annoyance.
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But
that
would
be
planning
zoning
department
and
maybe
even
the
plan,
zoning
commission,
but
that
I'm
just
telling
you
this
committee
voted
to
take
that
to
the
City
Council,
but
it
needs
to
be
one
directed
by
City
Council
and
two.
It
needs
to
be
those
that
department
that
handles
that
and
so
I
just
will
deal
with
it.
It
just
does
communication
said
I,
don't
have
anything
else,
so
we
can
close
this
item
and
move
on
to.
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Where
you
drive
down
the
down
the
streets
and
you're,
seeing
the
water.
Just
you
know,
running
down
the
street,
and
even
in
some
subdivisions
you
see
the
the
curb
and
it's
March
I
mean
we're
all
the
water's
constantly.
You
know,
there's
a
there's.
A
definite
market
were
where
the
water
is
so
having
said
that
when
they
approved
the
the
pavement
ordinance,
the
changes
of
the
pavement
ordinance
I
wanted
this
committee
to
look
at
the
current
irrigation
ordinance
for
those
three
items
in
particular
and
any
other
items
that
we
need
to
address
in
the
ordinance.
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Principally,
you
know
trying
to
number
one
possibly
moving
the
sprinkler
heads
further
away
from
the
property
further
away
from
the
property
line,
as
opposed
to
being
right
at
the
property
line.
So
it's
get
further
away
from
them
for
this
from
the
street
and
then
look
at
the
existing
ordinance
that
we
have
today
and
what
are
we
following
those
procedures?
Those
procedures
need
to.
Does
that
ordinance
need
to
need
to
change,
and
so
having
said
that,
we'll
open
it
up
for
any.
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And
just
following
along
the
lines
from
from
tree
Risa,
what
we
pretty
much
trying
to
present
here,
just
to
help
kind
of
give
the
flow
of
the
meeting
and
pretty
much
what
we
wanted
to
address
three
points,
some
one
being
the
location
of
the
irrigation,
its
inspection
and
enforcement.
And
so,
if
anything,
would
thank
you
for
the
irrigators
pretty
much
for
coming
right.
Thank
you,
John
and
also
for
the
committee
members
inviting
their
respective.
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Also
to
what
is
currently
being
practiced
as
far
as
location
of
irrigation
heads
in
reference
to
close
to
the
right
away
or
at
the
property,
and
what,
if
anything,
the
intent
here
is
to
not
over
water
or
not
allow
water
to
be
coming
into
the
right-of-way,
that
is,
engineering
staff,
Public,
Works
and
even
city
council
is
directing
this
committee
to
do
that.
So
no,
that's
just
what
I
want
to
say.
G
Pretty
much
when
it
comes
to
location
of
irrigation,
heads
I
know
when
it
comes
to
the
ordinance
they're
not
allowed
on
the
right
away,
and
this
is
for
those
for
the
trees
or
such
but
I'm.
One.
One
concept
that
we
were
talking
up
here
in
which
we
kind
of
listed
it
as
as
an
idea
of
nothing.
Nothing
final
to
it
is,
is
pretty
much
trying
to
set
the
irrigation
heads
four
feet
inside
the
property.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
a
good
idea
of
when
it
comes
to
irrigation.
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If,
if
you're,
not
you
don't
have
a
right
away
permit,
then
you
have
to
put
the
heads
four
feet
in
with
a
proper
measure,
so
several
things
we
can
do
thought
of
because
your
escape
the
bottom
half
of
the
city
right
away,
which
is
from
the
water
meter
location,
is
that
to
the
bottom
to
relieve
that
water
issue
you
have
from
the
pavement
or
you
can
use
granite
oversized
rock.
You
can
do
drip
lines,
there's
a
lot
of
issue
that
we
can
do
so
you
think
that's.
K
Basically,
what
I
was
gonna
say
you
can
zero
scape
or
you
can
use
Tripp
closest
to
the
curve
and
just
get
rid
of
using
spray
heads
or
rotors
in
those
areas,
and
some
cities
basically
say
no
irrigation
at
all,
but
typically
like
it's
an
Italian
corpus
you
can
put
trip
and
and
even
for
grass
you
can
use
drip
lines
for
grass.
You
don't
have
to
have
spray
heads
or
rotors
for
grass,
we'll.
K
Around
I'll
tell
you
one
of
the
things
that
I've
always
been
against
in
Laredo
and
a
lot
of
people
you
know
don't
like
it
is
San
Augustine
has
a
big
reward
water
requirement
and
it's
used
everywhere
here
in
town
and
it's
it's
really
not
meant
for
areas
that
that
are
this
hot
and
and
I
would.
If
anything,
I
would
tell
people
not
to
use
Burt
Sun
was
steamy,
more
use,
Bermuda
or
el
Torro,
Zoysia
or
or
some
other
grass
that
has
less
water
requirements.
J
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A
B
B
K
I
think
we're
looking
at
two
different
issues:
issue
one
is
lowering
the
water
that's
used
and
issue.
Two
is
a
street
problem.
Okay,
the
street
problem
I,
would
probably
ask
somebody
that's
more
of
an
expert
on
streets
and
see
if
that's
going
to
be
maybe
John
Street
problem
for
what
respect
well,
the
erosion
streets,
I
think,
is
one
of
the
problems
that
the
water
is
is
saturating
the
streets
and
causing
erosion
of
the
streets.
Yeah.
B
K
E
Again,
though,
it
just
has
question
wow
I
guess:
25
years
ago
we
did
Pete
misnamed
Heritage
Park
out
on
59,
and
we
wanted
it
to
be
first-class
and
everything
like
that
and
we
put
it
in
Bermuda
for
all
the
things
we
talked
about.
If
you
grow
up
there
now,
25
years
later
early,
if
you
went
out
there
a
year
later,
the
local
arrest,
it's
all
pulled
up
to
Bermuda
and
planet
signing
over
the
state.
E
K
I
want
let
it
clear
yourself:
everybody
likes
the
wide
blade,
Sam,
Osteen
grass
and
plus
it's
it's
one
of
the
grasses.
That
does
better
in
shade,
but
you
can
do
el
Toro
Zoysia,
which
does
well
in
shade,
and
it
has
a
lower
watering
requirements
and,
and
it
would
be,
the
city
would
have
to
do
it.
Ordinate
saying
no
more
sign
of
esteem
and
therefore
you
know
the
the
the
grass
suppliers
would
not
be
able
to
sell
it.
So
the
people
wouldn't
be
able
to
change
the
grass,
but.
E
What
about
the
issue,
even
if
we
upgrade
to
a
grass
and
trees
that
are
more,
that
obtain
to
this
climate,
we're
not
seen
before
I've
seen
people
overwater,
dark,
you're
still
gonna
have
people
over
watering,
even
though
the
plants
require
less
and
I.
Like
your
point,
but
I
don't
know.
If
this
the
citizens
to
politicians
will
agree
to
get
rid
of
their
there,
the
love
st.
E
Augustine
and-
and
so
you
know-
hopefully
next
two
companies
will
get
all
this
up
and
get
it
to
the
City
Council,
because
I
know
it's
it's
an
important
part
and
we've
been
on
this
pavement
ordinance
for
four
years.
We've
had
experts
upon
experts
and
John
showed
us
pictures
yes
over.
What
over
watering
does
have
a
huge
effect
on
the
on
the
road
it
seeps
in
through
the
cracks
in
our
curbs
and
if
you've
got
a
hot
P
I
saw
he
starts
seeing
buckling
immediately.
So
we.
K
The
way
I
personally,
if
if
it
was
up
to
me,
creating
an
ordinance
I,
would
not
allow
spray
heads
or
odors
on
between
the
sidewalk
on
the
curb
most
of
the
spray
heads
that
are
out
there,
you
recall
require
a
certain
amount
of
distance
when
used
when
you
cut
it
down
to
three
or
four
feet.
It
makes
it
very
difficult
to
water.
You
have
to
put
tons
of
heads
it's
if
I
was
doing
it.
K
K
B
A
B
Question
the
question
is:
do
we,
if
we're
trying
to
limit
the
items
that
can
be
placed
in
the
right-of-way?
Do
we
absolutely
to
keep
a
tree
alive?
Do
we
need
a
bubbler?
No,
no,
okay,
so
the
bubbler
we
can
just
eliminate
that
and
every
every
tree
would
would
make
it
or
no
no
drip
or
one
or
the
other
I
guess.
If
you
only
have
a
series
of
trees.
B
K
A
B
M
Right
away,
because
really
the
sole
here
it
softly
when
you
buried
a
line
that
has
the
water
does
in
you
know
gold
directly
next
to
the
other
line,
it
just
stays
on
and
the
data
little
trench
and
we
have
grass
you're
just
gonna
have
bits
of
grass
green,
oh
okay,
it's
it
softly
for
the
drip
line
to
work.
It
has
to
be
almost
on
the
top
and
then
kind
of
covered
with
sand,
so
the
water
can
distribute
evenly
under
the
grass.
Otherwise
it
just
is
you're
just
kind
of
sitting
there.
The
bike.
M
A
If
I
mean
taken
into
consideration,
we
said
it
is
true
where,
where
the
water
gets
logged,
if
we
get
waterlogged
there's
areas
in
the
city
of
that
we
have
water
veins,
where
the
waters
just
causing
erosion
to
the
streets
anyway.
But
in
this
case
we're
looking
at
water
conservation
and
water
conservation
to
us
is
very
important
right
now
and
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
succeed
on
that.
B
F
A
What
is
called
a
xeriscape
in
front?
It's
been
where
it
is
said:
you're
not
going
to
have
any
water
systems
on
that.
No
matter
where
you
go,
you
will
have
one
or
login
anywhere
you
go.
That
was
the
system
depending
on
what
correct
totem
is
there?
Even
if
it's
clay,
it's
going
a
little
longer
right
away
and
the
waters
going
to
drip
into
this
industry,
but
we
need
to
take
into
consideration
like
every
irrigator
has
a
different
way
of
doing
things.
A
But
if
you
put
a
touchstone,
we
put
a
sandy
soil,
it'll
it'll
work
for
the
area
where
it's
at
and
that's
what
there
may
be,
maybe
you're
doing
because
of
the
hydraulics
of
oh
the
system
that
we
have
we're
not
going
to
get
it
right.
All
the
time,
yeah
at
least
I
see
it
that
way
as
an
inspector
going
through
it
for
the
longest
time.
A
I
see
so
many
different
things
go
talk
to
the
customers
and
have
them
understand
that
when
they
move
the
system
themselves,
because
they
don't
call
the
irrigators
to
go,
hey
wait
a
minute:
I
have
too
much
water
or
I'm
spraying
up.
They
change
it
and
they
go
up
to
ten
minutes
instead
of
five
minutes.
You
know
third
part,
remember
going
and
irrigate
irrigation
system
or
the
industry
for
something
that
customers
also
do.
A
F
A
I
N
I
think
that's
where
the
main
problem
is
because,
as
far
as
designing
and
install
we're
all
professionals
we
have,
you
know
we
abide
to
certain
standards
that
for
high
standards
that
are
imposed
on
us
as
aerators
and
the
big
the
biggest
issue
is,
is
the
homeowner.
You
know
over
watering
if
they
feel
that
they
should
just
keep
watering
dirt.
You
know
over
and
over
it's
it's
a
it's
the
biggest
part
of
this.
This
problem,
I
guess.
B
K
To
put
your
heads
in
order
for
it
to
be
legal,
the
heads
have
to
completely
overlooked,
so
this
head
has
to
spray
over
here,
and
this
hit
has
to
spray
over
here
and
completely
over
that,
if
you
put
them
only
over
here
spraying
towards
the
street,
it's
not
a
legal
system
and
the
reason
is
because
the
way
sprinklers
are
designed
the
closer
to
the
head,
the
more
water
it
puts
out.
So
you
have
five
gallons,
four
gallons,
three
gallons,
two
gallons
one
gallon
okay.
K
K
So
the
only
way
to
do
it
is
to
put
you
know
it.
If
nobody
wants
to
to
you
know,
put
grass,
then
great,
they
can
just
put
zero
scape.
But
if
there's
that
you
know
a
few
people
that
do
want
grass
or
whatever,
then
we
have
to
give
them
some
type
of
an
option
and
the
only
option
would
be
drip
and
if
they
want
to
go
through
the
expense
of
putting
the
grass,
then
they
have
to
go
through
preparing
the
soil
to
accept
that
type
of
watering.
K
K
Though
so,
let's
say
you
have
a
drip
line
and
you
have
a
mattress
every
let's
say:
12
inches.
Okay,
so
you
put
your
drip
lines,
but
you
stagger
the
emitters
so
that
now
they're
every
six
inches.
You've
got
one
here,
one
here
and
one
here
and
now
there
are
every
six
inches
and
so
the
water
just
kind
of
bubbles
out
and
it
spreads
to
a
little
six-inch
area
and.
K
B
C
B
All
you
know
it's
when
I
looked
at
it,
not
knowing
what
you
talked
about
five
four,
three,
two
one
or
whatever
it
is
us.
You
know
I
sent
an
email
to
mr.
Chavez
and
some
people
it
looks
like
they've
got
too
many
sprinkler
hits.
You
know
it's
after
after
digesting
that
that
photo
overnight,
it's
like
they're,
all
too
close
to
each
other,
looks
like
we
have
too
many
sprinkler
hits.
Was
it
designed
correctly?
Was
there
a
permit
pulled?
Was
there?
B
K
You
have
to
set
certain
parameters
for
the
irrigator
and,
at
the
same
time,
you've
got
to
kind
of
trust
the
irrigator
to
design
properly
in
San
Antonio.
They
had
a
program
where
they
got
rid
of
as
many
spray
heads
as
possible
and
that
we
even
gives
the
homeowner
or
the
business
or
whatever
our
credit,
for
switching
to
either
drip
or
like
the
hunter.
The
least.
K
The
ones
that
shoot
the
fingers
hello,
the
brewery
they
sit
on
a
spray
head.
You
just
changed
the
nozzle
and
it's
like
a
mini
rotor.
It
shoots
little
fingers
of
water,
but
you
don't
have
a
spray
that
can
blow
away
as
easily
it's
more
little
fingers
of
water,
and
so
it's
a
little
it's
and
and
it's
it
has
less
problems
with
the
wind
blowing
it
away,
and
so
city
of
San
Antonio
did
that
and
they
said,
look
we'll
give
you.
You
know
thirty
dollars
for
every
spray
head
that
you
change
into
a
rotary
nozzle.
K
B
Guess
going
back
to
my
my
question
on
the
different
to
the
cost,
so
assuming
that
that
it's
correct
that
the
over-watering
you
know
is
getting
is
getting
into
the
street
and
we
wanted
to
I
guess
limit.
You
know
the
the
potential
for
this
water
to
getting
out
there.
What
would
be
the
difference
in
cost
going
to
say
drip
only
in
the
front
yard
and
in
the
back
yard.
You
know
you
can
use
whatever
kind
of
spray
heads
you
want
right,
but
we're
focusing
on
that
front
yard
and
the
water
getting
out
into
the
street.
B
K
G
G
B
G
B
G
B
I
F
B
G
B
Well,
I
think:
there's
there's
two
concepts:
I
think
there's
a
concept
from
not
just
the
water,
that's
immediately
next
to
it,
but
some
of
that
water
probably
travels
from
you
know,
based
on
what
I've
seen
owns
are
said.
If
the
zone
started
the
the
street
first
and
then
their
work
their
way
their
work
their
way
back.
You
know
that,
while
you're
over
watering
that
that
back
one
and
you've
got
that
slow
going
to
the
street
that
water
from
the
back,
one
is
also
potentially
getting
out
under
the
street,
because
everything
is
already
saturated,
eventually,.
B
A
Time
because
if
the
first,
the
first
two
minutes
sometimes
ground
to
get
water
on
right
away,
but
here
in,
if
you
back
it
up,
it
gives
it
time
for
it
to
come
back
down
and
by
the
time
it
gets
over,
hits
a
lot
of
this
water
coming
into
the
streets,
and
it
is
yes
there.
If
we're
coming
down
a
hill,
there's
a
lot
of
housing,
everybody
have
a
heel.
You
said
the
first
two
minutes.
The
first
few
minutes.
A
E
E
B
L
One,
the
French
ring
was
again
didn't
go
anywhere
due
to
again
the
cost
savings
for
the
residential
homes,
and
here
we
are
talking
about
a
system
where
they
are
not
gotta
excavate
X
amount
of
feet
put
a
drip
system,
then
it
cost
double
and
it's
not
going
to
guarantee
anything
so
again,
I,
don't
think
I
mean
talking
to
other.
You
tell
you
director.
The
only
way
there
is
a
chance
that
this
would
work
is
again
by
putting
a
limit
on
the
irrigation
systems,
and
you
get
so
many
gallons
per
month.
You
go
over.
L
You
pay
now
you're
gonna,
monitor
your
water.
Yeah
cuz
I'll
serve
right
now.
Y'all
can't
tell
me
and
they've
told
me
to
my
face
in
different
places
where
they're
over
ever
gating.
When
you
pay
for
my
water
bill,
then
you
can
tell
me
how
much
to
throw
other
than
that
I
can
do
as
much
water
as
I
want
and
as
far
as
doing
the
type
of
grass
you
want,
if
I
want
sometimes
Tina
I'm
gonna
put
some
tiles
team
and
you
guys
work
for
the
for
the
for
the
landowners
for
the
customers.
B
B
We
find
all
permits
our
position
here
is
not
the
quoting
prices,
but,
as
you
see,
gas
and
gas
go
up
as
UV
sizes
go
down,
gas
goes
down
and
people
start
buying
the
SUV.
So
that's
a
good.
It's
that's
a
good
barometer.
You
know
the
elasticity
of
demand,
for
you
know
what
you're
willing
to
what
you're
willing
to
invest
but
I
think
having
those
comments
are
well-received
and
I.
Think
that's
something
that
that
needs
to
be
done,
but
we
also
need
to
put
some
precautionary
items
and
in
the
ordinance
so
that
we
do
limit.
B
You
know
the
amount
of
water
that
can
potentially
go
in
there
aside,
so
that
we
have
to
safeguard
safeguard
number
one.
Is
we're
not
watering
as
much
in
the
in
the
in
the
front
and
safeguard
number
two?
Is
you
know
if
you're
over
watering
you
know
wasting
water
post
positive,
we
Tomas
Arena?
Did
you
want
to.
O
B
O
Okay
volume-
and
this
is
the
account
so
if
you
just
divide
I'm,
just
taking
average
average
homeowner
and
using
about
eight
thousand
gallon
a
month
if
we
go
to
irrigation,
they
are
using
about
sixteen
thousand
gallon
a
month
because
irrigation
meter,
even
if
you
use,
if
you
use
sixteen
thousand
gallon
for
your
residential,
your
bill
will
be
close
to
$150.
But
when
you
have
irrigation
meter,
your
bill
is
probably
$25.
O
They
don't
carry
any
sewer.
So
if
you
have
to
we
to
address
these
issues,
yes
all
this
thing,
but
also
we
have
to
look
at
a
different
rate
for
irrigation.
If
you
use
more
than
five
thousand
or
something
you
hit
it
and
then
how
people
gonna
cut
it
down,
because
it's
hitting
their
pocket
all
we
want,
but
people
still
coming.
User-Based
yeah,
yeah.
E
O
Now
we
have
the
same
break
for
residential
use,
education,
it's
the
same
rate,
I
think
to
address
this
issue.
We
also
have
to
look
at
the
irrigation
rate
as
a
separate
than
the
residential
rate,
and
we
may
see
a
5,000
or
4,000
gallon
a
fixed
rate
and
anything
over
there.
You
charge
like
in
residential.
If
you
go
over
30,000
you
pay
for
ninety
four
thousand
gallon.
We
don't
have
to
any
customer
use
more
than
30
thousand
gallon
because
it
hits
really
hard
three
times
higher
than
the
regular
rate.
I
agree.
E
E
L
Frank
drinks
and
again,
depending
on
what
part
of
town
with
subdivisions
at
work
table
OPI
again,
you
might
have
a
high
P
I
in
any
subdivision
where
it's
gonna
be
a
mobile
home
park.
You're
not
gonna.
Have
it
rotation
system,
you're
gonna
have
five
cars
per
lot?
Don't
matter
to
me,
you
know
personally,
I,
don't
think
you
need
a
Frenchman
yeah.
So
again
it
all
depends
on
the
location.
What
type
of
home
it's
gonna
be
it's
gonna
again
you
have
one
house
with
every
gate
system
that
there's
gonna
be
more
with
it.
L
K
F
K
You
give
me,
you
know
a
allowance
of
a
certain
amount
of
water,
well
you're
affecting
30
different
yeah
with
one
meter,
and
they
already
have
a
scale
where
the
more
water
you
use
the
higher
the
water
cost
is
and
so
I
don't
have
a
way
other
than
you
know,
creating
easements
and
and
installing
water
lines
and
and
completely
redoing.
The
whole
subdivision
should
be
able
to
provide
water
meters
for
each
individual
tenant.
K
B
B
E
O
K
G
G
It's
just
the
inspection
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
want
to
speak
any
in
regards
to
that's
a
good
point
about
the
education,
educating
the
public
but
I'm
anything
having
to
do
with
other
forms
of
enforcement
with,
like
the
water
cops
or
anything
like
that,
because
I
have
a
feeling.
We
will
probably
be
asked
that.
B
And
in
the
in
the
ordinance
it
talks
about
educating
the
consumer,
that's
part
of
the
yeah,
that's
part
of
it.
That's
part
of
the
air.
You
know
the
irrigators
response
responsibilities
and
then
there's
also
some
like
pre
backfill
inspections
and
that
kind
of
stuff
that
I
don't
know
that
it's
well
there's
being
done,
not
being
done
how
important
it
is
not
important,
but
that's
the
existing.
You
know
there's
that
the
existing
ordinances,
pre
backfill
inspection,
final
inspection.
B
You
know
demonstrating
the
performance
of
the
of
the
system,
checking
you
know
for
five
minutes.
You
know
shown
that
exceed
the
cow
related
water
for
15
minutes,
so
it
talks
about
there's
a
design
right.
You
all
have
to
submit
a
design
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
final
inspection
at
the
CEO
kind
of
like
for
us
and
or
for
me
in
home
building,
you
know
all
the
inspectors
want
to
check
the
home
and
then
there's
a
final
guy
that
goes
back
and
kind
of
like
we're,
starting
all
over
guys,
we're
gonna.
B
You
know
we're
going
to
check
the
HVAC.
We're
gonna
check
the
plumbing,
we're
gonna
check
this
yeah
we're
gonna
check
everything
one
more
one
more
time,
I,
don't
know
that
that
that's
currently
that's
currently
happening,
but
assuming
that
it
were
to
happen
in
the
future
based
on
the
based
on
the
ordinance
is
there?
Is
it
difficult
to
prove
these
things
up?
You
know
is
if
you
are
calculating
so
much
consumption
of
water
and
five
minutes,
is
it
difficult
to
prove
it
up
and
a
final
inspection
or.
A
B
The
ordinance
today
calls
for
it,
says
the
inspection
result,
witness
of
the
demonstration
environment,
very
fighting
and
any
consumption
readings
of
the
water
meter
for
each
stone.
Actual
water
consumption
for
each
on
calculated
over
a
minimum
runtime
of
5
minutes
shall
not
exceed
the
calculated
consumption
for
more
than
15
percent.
So
that's
what
that's!
What's
in
the
ordinance
today,
right
and
or
so,
you
present
a
plan.
K
This
is
not
being
followed.
It's
impossible,
it's
impossible
for
one
inspector
to
be
able
to
follow
all
of
the
inspections
that
the
ordinance
requires.
90%
of
the
problems
that
the
city
has
of
irrigation
are
not
with
the
license,
irrigator
suit
its
with
the
new
guys
that
come
across
from
El
Dorado.
They
go
by
their
parts
and
Home
Depot,
and
they
install
the
system
on
Saturday
and
Sunday.
That's
where
90%
of
the
problems
are
so
yeah.
B
G
B
A
Design
they
put
all
that
in
their
design
when
they,
when
they
submit
their
plans,
that
I
do
the
plan
review
on
it
and
the
minute
that
it
passes.
They'll
call
me
for
an
inspection
but
to
go
ahead
and
check
it.
Now,
most
of
the
time
there,
when
we
go
out
there
or
I,
go
out
there
and
take
a
look
at
that
I
check
and
make
sure
that
they
have
a
test
report
and
that
the
system
works,
but
I
don't
stay
there
too
long.
A
B
In
other
words,
I
guess
notice
of
the
ordinance.
Let's
say
this
is
the
ordinance
right
and
it's
calling
for
certain
certain
items
in
the
ordinance,
and
you
said
because
there
is
not
enough
staff
or
whatever
we're
self-policing
this
and
at
the
at
the
at
the
point
of
certificate
of
occupancy
I'm,
giving
you
my
my
document
that
says
I
was
supposed
to
consume.
You
know
30
gallons
of
water
and
it
went
35,
you
know,
but
it's
still
within
the
15
or
130
you
know
33.
It
was
10%
more.
E
Sorry
to
interject,
but
he
goes
back
to
the
point
and
Rio
still
the
I
mean
I've
grown
up
before.
After
of
it,
when
you
guys
come
out
and
said
those
I've,
liver
and
/
house
butts
right,
there
said
sprinkler,
heads
and
my
wife
likes
everything,
real
green
and
then
next
thing
you
know
we're
Dora
Justin
like
the
time
of
water.
K
E
In
the
drought
I'm,
sorry
when
we're
in
the
drought
conditions-
and
we
had
a
city
staff
driver
around
and
you
could,
if
you're
out
five
six
o'clock
in
the
morning,
you
can
see
where
the
water's
coming
from
and
find
a
stiff
fines.
And
then
the
the
biggest
way
to
affect
human
behavior
is
ramp
up
those
irrigation
fees
if
y'all
are
putting
in
an
irrigation
system.
That
assumes
that
this
is
a
this
is
what
the
consumption
should
be.
Then
then
ramp
it
up.
E
Also
the
things
that
you
were
talking
about,
Mike
talks
about
my
different
type
of
grass
and
different
type
of
trees.
Well,
people
aren't
even
going
to
consider
that
until
they
start
getting
the
water
bills
and
then
also
the
also
there,
it
seems
like
a
a
good
idea-
that's
just
my
two
cents,
but
some
some
some
visual
inspections
and
then
really
hit
it
hard
on
the
heavy
waters.
P
A
P
Know
I
live
in
the
Heights
area
and
every
time
I
see
their
landscaper
I'm
like
hey.
You
know
what
till
the
neighbor
over
there
that
their
drink
or
head
is
out
cuz
they're
losing
water,
that's
running
all
over
the
place,
but
that's
just
me
I,
don't
know
how
long
that's
been
running
and
so
anyways
I
think
having
adequate
staff
is
very
important
to
any
organs
that
we
have
well.
A
P
A
It
takes
five
minutes
to
go
ahead
and
take
a
system.
It
really
does
a
u-turn
on
every
zoning
to
make
sure
that
it's
working
progress,
but
if
it's
a
five
minute
zone,
we're
not
gonna
stay
there
for
five
minutes
to
make
sure
that
it's
gonna
take
the
five
minutes.
We're
not
gonna
stay
there
because
of
the
time.
P
N
N
N
G
Thing
I
want
to
point
out
about
certain
words,
use
that
I
know
when
it
comes
from
our
infer
building
pretty
much.
The
part
that
we
can
control
is
its
main,
the
inspect
inspection
part,
and
so
yes,
yes,
we
would
even
worse,
have
to
be
more
specific
on
on
the
inspection.
But
then
it's
like
the
policing
or
the
enforcement
part.
That's
that's
a
little
bit
different
and
I'm,
pretty
positive,
that's
gonna,
be
one
of
the
questions
that
council
is
is
gonna
ask
for
because
from
our
end
we
we
don't.
G
P
Adjust
retail
section
here
in
the
ordinance
where
it
says
in
section
31
one,
forty
one
point:
twenty
nine
that
says:
if
a
meter
and
irrigation
system
or
backflow
device
is
found
to
be
leaking
on
a
private
site,
the
property
owner
will
be
notified
and
issued
a
written
warning
for
failure
to
repair
a
and
a
controllable
leak.
Failure
to
repair
the
pressure
leak
after
the
second
warning
will
constitute
a
citation
and
incur
the
penalties
established
in
this
plan.
So
there
are
penalties
and
the
yeah.
G
You
know
kind
of
like
a
water
leak,
it's
kind
of
the
hard
part,
and
so
maybe
I
guess
we're
leaning
to
we
might
need
just
assistance
and
how
to
address
that.
But
I
know
for
building
he'll
be
really
hard
to
you're,
not
saying
that
we
shouldn't,
but
I'm
just
saying
they'll
be
hard
for
us
to
really
verify
that
that
issue
so.
A
E
G
I'm
sorry
I
just
remember
back
back
in
the
day
you
know
we
had
that
the
water
cups
there
were
I
know
those
guys
were
pretty
much
24,
not
nothing.
You
had
a
whole
bunch
of
them,
but
at
least
you
have
that
one
guy
policing,
you
know
you
know
that
you
know
at
nights
and
stuff
it
wasn't.
It
wasn't
building
so
I.
Guess
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
push
like
yeah
I'm,
not
trying
to
say
that
it
shouldn't
happen,
but
it
shouldn't
happen,
but
but.
G
G
E
C
B
Point,
and
at
least
in
my
from
my
standpoint,
there's
two
issues.
The
first
issue
is:
are
we
getting
your
quality
systems
number
one
obviously
from
the
members
that
are
here
that
are
in
attendance,
is
because
I
want
to
provide
a
quality
system
number
two
having
a
quality
system.
Can
we,
you
know
in
those
areas
that
are
close
to.
You
know
the
right
of
way
in
the
front
yard,
where
the
waters
potentially
easier
by
you
know
natural
events
getting
that
water
into
the
you
know.
B
We
should
at
least
try
to
you
know,
get
those
get
those
resolved
and,
as
far
as
you
know,
those
people
that
are
putting
the
irrigation
systems
that
are
not
applying
for
permits
or
the
individuals
that
I
guess
you're
saying
through
the
ordinance
they
can.
You
know
that
they
just
because
they're
gonna
do
it
themselves,
doesn't
mean
that
they
don't
follow
the
requirements.
E
B
G
To
be
honest,
to
be
honest,
is
like
any
type
of
construction.
We've
had
that
issues
to
the
policing
part
that
there's
so
much
work
to
go
on
that
it's
really
hard.
We
do
do
a
lot
of
stop
work.
Orders
like
it's
insane
the
amount
of
stop
workers
we
do
yeah,
but
even
at
that
level
of
strictness
that
we
do
it.
We
still
there's
still
some
guys
who
slide
away,
and
so
it
does
happen.
You.
C
G
To
kind
of
add
to
the
point
number
two:
that
should
we
brother
about
how
do
we
get
you
know,
do
we
want
to
suggest
to
the
council
of
of
you
know
like
this?
This
blanket
ordinance
that
granted
there's
some
some
old-school
subdivisions
that
might
have
a
sprinkler
head
like
on
the
right
away.
For
instance,
you
know:
do
we
want
to
suggest
the
council
like
a
we
give
you
a
year?
G
B
I
would
never
would
remember
that
without
or
I
would
never
bear
that,
but
I
think
just
like
what
you
do
with
code
today.
You
know
if
somebody's
going
in
there
and
they're
doing
or
repair
there
should
be
some
kind
of
system
to
when
you're
going
through
a
through
a
repair
of
your
system,
that
you
need
to
upgrade
it
if
you're,
repairing
a
certain
a
certain
amount
or
that
may
be
the
city
impose
an
inspection.
Every
couple
of
years.
I
can
tell
you
how
much
I
have
an
irrigation
system.
B
Now
you
know
it's
I'm
gonna
have
been
a
point
to
where
you
know
things
could
start
to
fail
because
the
system's
20
years
old,
you
know
it's
kind
of
yeah,
so
maybe
setting
somewhere
to
where
there
should
be
some
kind
of
maintenance.
If
you're
gonna
have
a
sprinkler
system,
there'd
be
some
kind
of
maintenance
on
the
system
or
monitor
I.
E
C
P
C
A
irrigation
leader
is
installed.
Utilities
Department
verifies
that
one
an
irrigation
permit
was
issued
to
a
backflow.
Preventor
has
been
registered
and
is
installed
at
the
site
and
most
of
the
time
when
they
come
for
an
irrigation
meter,
they
also
verify
whether
it's
going
to
be
either
a
tea
connection
or
a
new
service.
Now
that
the
service
price
went
down
for
this
last
April
first,
it
makes
it
easier
for
get
a
service
for
a
irrigation
meter.
C
C
Because
many
times
they
come
in,
it's
an
existing
irrigation
system.
I
just
want
a
mirror
and
it
was
already
installed.
Did
it
have
a
permit?
Do
not
at
that
time?
If
you're
not
gonna
make
them
it's
already
installed
now
it
could
be
it's
already
installed
last
week
or
it
was.
It
was
already
installed
last
month
or
last
year.
You
know
it's
already
installed.
P
I
P
O
O
B
A
Attorney
in
a
design
to
me-
and
the
first
thing
is
going
to
happen-
is
that
you're
going
to
go
to
the
utility
department,
they're
gonna
deny
you
and
they're
gonna
tell
you
that
you
need
a
permit
and
you
can't
get
the
permit
for
the
Demeter
itself.
It
has
to
be
done
by
a
licensed
irrigator
or
a
licensed
installer,
which
is
a
plumber
also
so.
A
C
A
Cannot
well
you
come
in
to
ask
if
you
can
do
your
I'll,
give
you
an
example
of
what
you
need
to
right
now
of
what
you
need
to
do
to
turn
in
your
design.
I'll
give
you
an
example
on
that,
so
you
take
it
with
you
and
you
look
it
up,
because
most
of
the
people
go
to
Lowe's
or
they
go
to
Home
Depot
when
they
buy
all
the
materials
and
home
people
themselves
will
go
ahead
and
make
a
system
plan
for
them,
and
then
they
turn
that
into.
B
K
Because
if
I
may,
I
think
the
original
idea
of
the
meeting
was
water
conservation
and
the
problem
of
the
streets
problem
with
the
streets,
okay,
so
the
the
design
of
the
system
and
whether
it's
properly
engineered
or
designed
is,
is
really
a
a
minor
portion
of
what
we
we
began.
Talking
about.
We've
put
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
into
the
design
and
whether
we're
doing
it
correctly
or
not,
I
think
that.
K
We
really
need
to
focus
on
what
what
we
set
out
to
to
achieve
I
know
we're
going
to
inspections
and
and
and
whether
it's
done
right
or
wrong.
But
the
big
idea
here
was
the
right
away
and
whether
we
should
have
irrigation
on
the
right
away
and
it's
pretty
simple:
it's
either
you
put
drip
or
you
don't
put
anything
at
all.
Yeah.
K
Everything
else
it's
it's,
the
the
enforcement,
the
charging
more
for
the
water
you're.
Always
this
is
not
just
Laredo.
It's
the
whole
country.
The
irrigation
takes
up
the
majority
of
the
water,
that's
used
everywhere
in
every
home
in
every
city.
That's
irrigation
is
the
big
user
of
water.
So
we
just
want
to
try
to
minimize
that
to
and
be
more
efficient.
E
E
O
E
O
10,000
or
15,000,
because
it's
also
a
it's
also
a
cost
benefit
if
I'm
using
including
irrigation,
say
ten
thousand
gallon.
For
my
home,
my
bill
is
still
manageable.
I
don't
want
to
spend,
go
two
three
dollar
or
$4,000,
because
I'm
not
what
I'm
saving
20
bucks
I'm,
not
making
money
for
last
five
seven
years,
but
the
moment
you
have
irrigation
system,
you
using
say
20,000
gallon
and
your
home
is
using
8,000
gallons.
Now
you
paint
that
20,000
gallon
just
a
sewer
bill.
B
C
O
O
P
E
K
Let
me
also
just
just
add:
if
he's
going
to
do
a
calculation
or
if
the
city
wants
to
do
a
calculation
on
how
much
water
is
necessary,
they
have
to
determine
what
type
of
plants
and
grass
and
turf
and
everything
they're
going
to
design
that
amount
for.
So,
for
example,
if
it's
Bermuda
grass,
you
need
a
inch
and
a
quarter
two
inch
and
a
half
per
week
of
water
or
rainfall.
That
equates
to
a
little
over
seven
gallons
per
per
square
yard.
K
Okay,
so
he
needs
to
calculate
how
much
water
that's
going
to
be
to
make
that
to
make
that
lawn,
survive
and,
and
then
say
to
the
owner.
Okay,
this
is
enough
water
for
your
for
your
landscape
to
survive.
We're
gonna,
give
you
this
amount
of
water,
but
if
you
go
over
that,
then
you're
going
to
have
to
start
paying
more
and
that
that
makes
sense.
But
there
has
to
be
a
calculation
based
on
the
type
of
landscaping
that
you're
going
to
design
that
calculation
for
here
in
Laredo
and.
P
A
O
I,
don't
have
those
data,
but
the
data
I
have
we
have
the
meter
size
and
we
know
how
much
consumption
we
can
run.
Okay,
who,
on
this
irrigation
meter
3000,
whoever
use
5,000
gallons,
we
can
run
a
report
and
say
these:
are
the
home
front
thousand
gallon
come
up
with
an
average.
These
are
the
homes,
and
by
looking
at
that,
you
will
see
the
way
the
homes
are.
A
A
K
A
A
A
Those
zone
valves
are
scattered
all
over
the
backyard
or
the
front
yard
whatever,
and
it's
very
hard
to
locate
them
for
the
homeowner
to
you
know
if
you
have
to
shut
off
valve
because
there's
a
weakened
those,
isn't
there
a
requirement
that
those
song
bells
be
placed
in
such
a
way
that
in
one
faith,
only
attempt
scatter
all
over
the
backyard
and
they
get
covered
by
the
grass.
And
then
you
don't
see
him
anymore,
there's
no
requirement
of
where
you
play
those
on
Valve's.
No,
should
that
be
okay,
they
should
be
because
I'm
gonna
shut.
F
A
F
A
Yeah,
let
me
clarify
why
we
need
to
know
those
things
because,
let's
say
your
home
builders
or
home-improvement
individuals
who
wanna
build
a
fake
Alanya
or
an
additional
bedroom,
and
you
need
to
close
that
zone.
You
know
well
and
just
tearing
it
up
when
you
activate
unit
for
the
in
my
case
also
when
we're
building
swimming
pool,
we
end
up
destroying
the
whole
system
here,
because
we
don't
know
what
the
song
Baltar
so
shouldn't
there
be
a
place
where
you
can
always
more
or
less
designate
the
song
well
replace
location.
A
We
can
request
that,
but
one
of
the
things
is
as
me
as
a
contractor.
I'm
gonna
come
in
and
you
can
make
sure
where
everything
is.
If
I
have
a
system
in
my
way,
I
need
to
find
it
call
somebody
that
you
go
ahead
and
find
it
for
me.
I
don't
want
to
have
any
problems.
The
system
itself
from
the
zone
valve
itself,
Howard
I,
had
to
write.
There's
no
trench
was
on
there's
nothing
there
until
you
run
into
the
pipe
the
main
line
that
has
the
wiring.
That's
where
you're
gonna
have
problem
yeah.
G
I,
think
of
anything
which
just
focus
on
the
irrigation.
With
regards
the
pavement,
the
last
comment
or
question
for
me,
it
is
just
on
the
on
the
rotary
nozzle.
Is
it
something?
Is
it
something
that's
expensive?
That's,
let's
see
if
you
want
to
change
the
spectrum
is
great
to
to
that
rotary
and
also
is
it
something
that
would
be
expensive
for
those.
K
K
A
G
B
That's
my
opinion
is
that,
in
conjunction
with
a
you
know,
increased
fee
for
water.
There
be
a
an
incentive
to
xeriscape.
You
know
to
give
the
homeowner
an
opportunity
to
to
work
their
way
into.
You
know
that
there's
gonna
be
some
that
don't
want.
You
know,
don't
want
a
zero
scape
like
Danny
says
you
know
one.
My
seen
grass
and
I'm
gonna
pay
the
the
big
price,
but
at
least
give
them
some
kind
of
transitionary
period.
Or
you
know.
Maybe
there
isn't
no
upfront
incentive,
but
you
say:
okay,
you've
got
you
know
over
the
next.
B
C
P
P
The
proposed
rates
to
charge
I
think
that's
what
the
consensus
is
of
the
staff
of
the
public
works
director,
Utilities,
Director
and
I.
Guess
in
and
in
the
type
of
committee
position
is
I
like
to
listen
to
staff.
They
do
it
every
day
and
and
and
I
think
going
along
with
the
consensus
is
the
way
to
go
and
I.
Think
so.
That's
where
the
motion
is
how
second
motion.
E
B
B
B
L
Multiply
irrigation
ordinances.
There
was
two
or
three
means
meld
made
there
at
Public
Works
with
all
the
irrigate
errs
because
y'all
gonna
come
up
with
something
and
then
you
might
remember
at
the
we
had
fifty
areas,
there
are
30
Gators
coming
to
Council
and
there
was
a
mess
at
the
table
and
it's
gonna
get
tabled.
So
you
all
can
make
all
the
decisions
you
want
to,
but
once
the
ever
Gators
come
here
and
we
have
two
or
three
of
them
here-
there's
a
lot
more
out
there.
We
not
leave
them
also.