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Transportation and Traffic Safety Advisory Committee Meeting 090921
A
A
Good
evening
item
number
one
call
to
order
roll
con
declaration
of
quorum
adrian
dominguez
president,
mr
armando
garza
president,
mr
fred
dickey
president,
mr
jeffrey
quigg,
president
mr
ciro
gonzalez
president
mr
rosario,
santos,
absent
and
mr
adrian
lavia
present
perfect.
We
have
quorum.
Okay.
Item
number,
two
general
citizens,
communication
erica:
do
we
have
anybody
signed
up
for
today?
A
A
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
I'll
I'll
motion
to
approve?
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
second
by
mr
dickey,
all
in
favor,
please
signal
by
saying
aye
aye.
Any
opposed.
Okay
motion
carries
item
number
four
communication:
do
we
have
any
communication
reports?
Mr
mcgee?
No
item
number
six
discussion:
impossible
action
of
the
following
item:
number
one
trucking
issues
in
laredo,
congestion,
parking
and
safety.
Mr
mcgee.
B
B
This
item
with
trucking
we've
had
some
discussions
about
that
last
time,
were
they
off
the
record
or
not,
but
we
we
get
major
complaints
at
the
traffic
department
and
I
believe
it's
time
as
you're
trafficking
here,
to
bring
those
to
you
you're
the
committee
that
has
the
the
ears
of
your
councilman.
So
we
want
to
see
where
we
can
go
with
this.
B
It's
that's
mr
dickey
just
said
off
the
record
a
little
while
ago.
How
do
you
eat
an
elephant
one
bite
at
a
time?
So
that's
what
we
need
to
do.
I
believe
my
purpose
today
to
bring
this
to
you
is
not
to
come
with.
A
specific
agenda
is
to
get
your
ideas
to
see
how
we
can
compartmentalize
this
this
issue.
I
mean
we
have
parking
issues,
we
need
to
look
at.
We
have
streets
that
can't
handle
the
traffic
we
have
issues
with
who
do
we
site
when
they
clog
upper
streets?
B
Is
it
the
truck
driver's
fault
that
is
required
to
go
into
an
establishment,
or
is
it
the
establishment
itself
so
that
those
are
some
of
the
issues
I
want
to
discuss
today
so
rather
than
in
hog
up
your
time?
Is
I
want
to
see
what
direction
you
guys
want
to
go
into
so
that
erica
can
take
notes?
A
lot
of
notes
are
okay
and
we
can
take
those
and
maybe
come
back,
and
then
we
can
discuss
those
in
further
detail,
but
I
do
want
to
like.
C
D
Yeah
they
they
came
by
they.
They
were
very
appreciative
that,
given
the
opportunity
to
present
their
case
and
present
what
the
issues
they
were
having
in
the
blockage
there
on
mines,
road
and
I
believe
they
were
able
to
speak
to
the
officer
that
was
here-
they
got
his
number
and
I
think
they
have
been
in
communication
on
what
was
the
next
steps
to
be
taken.
That's
great,
so
I
have
not
spoken
to
them.
I
didn't
reach
out
to
them
today,
actually
didn't
get
back
to
them
or
them
to
me.
D
B
One
of
the
topics
that's
always
coming
about
is
truck
parking.
It's
such
a
such
a
fast.
I
guess
problem
jimmy
used
our
product
that
in
quotes
there
that
even
textile
authorized
a
study
a
while
back
because
they
were
having
you
know,
issues
with
truck
parking
on
the
side
highways,
and
that
gets
to
be
a
problem,
and
so
we
do
have
that
to
I
guess.
Hopefully
we
can
start
the
discussion
with
that
and
the
issues
that
come
up
with
that
is,
you
think.
Well,
it's
an
easy
thing.
B
B
B
B
B
But
we'll
never
finish
and
like
I
said
and
laredo
relies
on
that,
and
we
have
to
recognize
that
a
lot
of
these
trucks
that
are
out
there
they're
not
owned
exactly
by
those
companies
that
they're
serving
they're
independent
truckers.
So
we
may
be
penalizing
the
wrong
people.
So
that's
the
discussion
I
want
to
take
today
so
I'll.
Let
you
kick
it
off
in
any
manner.
You
see
there
unless
you
want
me
to
take
over
the
discussion,
but
I
need
to
do
that
so.
D
I
do
have
a
question
on
that
and
we
figured
out.
I
know
you
just
mentioned
it
so
have
we
figured
out?
Is
it
more
of
the
local
owners
or
the
independent
owners
that
are
coming
from
the
north
having
the
park
outside
the
street
waiting
to
be
offloaded?
The
next
day
have
we
been
able
to
identify
that?
I.
B
B
B
I
mean
we
have
streets
that
are
designed,
for
you
know
one-way
traffic
on
each
one
and
maybe
some
parking
both
sides
and
we've
got
six
lanes
of
trucks,
because
these
guys
commit
from
out
of
town
and
they're
parked
there
and
they
gotta
get
service
and
they
run
into
the
problem
where
they
have
a
company
they're
going
to
and
a
security
booth
right
there
and
they
can't
get
service
until
that.
Guy
with
the
clipboard
says,
you
can
go
in
right.
B
Meanwhile,
they're
backing
up
backing
up
backing
up,
so
that's
the
ones
with
the
long
haul
and
then
on
the
reverse
side
of
that
you
got
the
short
haul,
guys
that
go
into
mexico
that
are
almost
doing.
The
same
thing
is
that
you
know
we
got
problems
with
parking
that
they
own
their
own
trucks
and
now
they're
parked
they're
parking
them
in
the
neighborhoods,
and
it's
easy
to
say.
B
So
if
we
go
out
inside
them,
two
three
hundred
dollars
like
we
agreed
to
last
time,
we
might
be
killing
a
whole
day's
worth
of
wages
for
my
truck
drive
and
with
the
price
of
diesel
being
what
it
is.
You
know
we
can
all
see
how
all
these
things,
but
there's
no
easy
solution
for
this,
but
I
believe
we
have
to
start
the
discussion
and
get
it
to
you
know:
council
and
city
management
to
start
looking
at
these
things.
Okay,
because
it's
a
problem,
it's
it's!
B
It's
kind
of
like
the
weather,
you
know
the
old
joke,
everybody
talks
about
the
weather,
but
nobody
does
anything
about
it.
It's
it's
that
point
now
is
we
have
so
much
trucking,
we
loretta
lives
and
breathes
by
it,
but
so
we're
kind
of
afraid
to
touch
it,
but
we
get
everybody
complains
about
it.
So
it's
kind
of
where
we're
going
from
here.
F
Well,
I've
got
some
ideas,
so
the
situation
is
that,
from
our
understanding
in
most
of
the
the
dense
areas,
is
that
there's
trucks
that
are
waiting
to
be
seen
or
get
into
a
facility?
So
there's
two
things
that
I
look
at
it
I
see
number
one.
We
have
to
somehow
encourage
circulation,
courage,
movement
of
traffic,
not
parking,
but
movement,
and
how
do
we
encourage
the
movement
is
to
create
either
circular
routes
in
those
areas
that
they
can
continually
operate
in
that
are
considered
like
traffic
loops,
but
for
large
18
wheelers
right.
F
So
that
might
be
an
avenue
to
look
at
is
to
look
at
the
surrounding
streets
and
to
be
able
to
create
a
circular
loop
that
they
can
continue
to
drive.
Now,
it's
not
what
they
want
to
do,
but
to
encourage
that
we
also
have
to
have
more
enforcement
on
the
ground,
encouraging
no
parking.
You
got
to
keep
moving.
You
just
got
to
keep
moving
and
you
know
create
a
continually
moving
traffic
flow
in
an
area
around
the
industrial
areas
number
one
or
we
look
at.
We
got
to
handle
the
parking.
F
So
if
there's
areas
where
we
have
older
industrial
parks
that
don't
have
adequate
parking
that
were
possibly
grandfathered
in
before
or
hadn't,
been
looked
at
with
the
newer
requirements
that
and
they
were
looking
at-
maybe
we
need
to
look
at
okay.
How
can
we
widen
take
right
away
from
them
to
give
them?
F
A
deceleration
lanes
quote
unquote
parking
lanes
for
them
to
can
to
keep
the
other
traffic
moving.
So
if
we
can
get
those
18
wheelers
off
of
the
main
lanes
of
travel
onto
another
lane,
a
widened
lane
get
participation
from
the
two
owners
on
either
side
to
say:
hey
your
driveway
is
located
here,
we're
going.
F
We
would
like
to
acquire
right
away,
widen
the
road
to
give
you
some
stacking
room
for
your
vehicles
and
but
in
for
an
encouragement
you
need
to
encourage
them
to
continue
to
look
at
it
circulating
or
moving
around
until
they
can
get
into
that
lane.
For
you
for
your
use
and
and
then
that's
that's
a
possibility
and
then
you
encourage
them
donate
land.
F
Now
that
may
go
into
our
setback
requirements
yeah
we
may
have
to
to
to
look
at
allowing
variances
to
the
to
the
front
yard,
to
the
front,
lock
line
setback
for
these
industrial
areas
to
be
able
to
put
a
basically
a
parking
lane
right
turn
lane
into
their
into
their
facility.
So
we
can
possibly
look
at
that
and
that's
that's
the
way
or
we
can
look
at
regional
parking.
F
Now.
Regional
parking
is
great,
but
to
find
the
space
to
find
the
region
that
it
works
for
it,
it
becomes
a
little
bit
more
problematic
to
find
all
that
and
then
who
pays
for
it,
how
we
get
it
funded.
So
if
you're
going
and
you're
acquiring
land
from
an
existing
user
and
you're
telling
them
help
us
to
improve
the
situation
so
that
it
works
better.
For
you
give
us,
the
land
participate
with
us
on
a
portion
of
the
cost
to
give
you
that
lane.
A
Absolutely
absolutely
I
just
want
to
say
our
goal
is
also
not
to
hamper
you
know
or
or
cause
undo.
You
know
again,
you
know
to
any
any
of
our
control.
I
mean
again
you
you
said,
mr
mcgee,
that
that
is
the
lifeline
of
laredo.
I
think
it
has
to
be
of
some
type
of
partnership
between
you
know
the
businesses
and
maybe
the
city
of
laredo,
to
where
we
can
come
together
and
come
with.
Like
mr
point
says,
you
know
to
come
to
a
solution,
you
know
to
come
to
a
solution,
a
something
that
works.
A
F
And
to
solve
the
entire
issue
for
laredo
might
be
an
elephant
to
deal
with.
Obviously,
so
I
think
we
ought
to
try
to
focus
on
a
study
area
come
up
with
some
ideas
for
that
and
the
operations
of
how
that
area
functions
and
operates
with
both
old
and
new
facilities
and
and
see
what
partnerships
we
can.
B
Yes,
my
intent
today,
you
you
saw
on
the
agenda,
I
put
it
as
a
discussion
and
possible
action.
So
what
I'd
like
as
a
group
is
for
you
to
get
the
ideas
vote
on
it
and
then
tell
me
those
on
my
marching
orders.
I
don't
want
this
to
be
that
danny
mcgee
thinks
this
kind
of
thing.
That's
the
last
thing
I
want
I've
got
my
experience
with
these
things
and
how
we
handle
them,
but
I'm
looking
for
new
ideas,
something
that
we
can.
B
We
can
show
council
that
we're
looking
at
a
lot
of
these
ideas,
they've
been
flowing
around
for
a
long
time.
I
mean
there's
several
trucking
forwarding
customs
brokers,
groups
out
there
and,
like
the
regional
parking,
has
been
thrown
around
for
many
many
years,
but
this
this
hasn't
gone
anywhere.
So
it's
like.
I
said
it's
like
about
the
weather.
We
keep
talking
about
it
right,
but
nothing
gets
done.
B
B
F
I
think,
if
my
directive
would
be
to
recommend
to
the
traffic
department
to
see
the
radio
to
identify
an
area
and
then
once
we
identify
an
error,
bring
the
problems
of
that
area
to
this
committee-
and
you
say:
okay,
this
is
what
we're
having
problems
with.
Trucks
are
parking
all
on
this
side.
Trucks
are
parking
on
this
side.
We
only
got
one
lane
of
road
okay,
then
we
can
give
a
directive
to
say
we
would
like
the
traffic
department
to
take
to
the
city
council
a
finite
plan.
F
B
B
These
strikers
come
in
out
of
town,
and
most
of
them
are
long
haul
truckers
because
we
go
by
maneuvering
them
get
out
of
the
way
and
they'll
tell
you
well.
Where
do
I
go?
What
I
do
and
you
see
their
tags
are
from
different
states,
etc.
So
it
may
be
the
only
time
they
ever
come.
Laredo,
maybe
not,
or
maybe
they
come
frequently.
B
So
in
my
estimate,
okay,
this
is
one
guy
come
in.
He
doesn't
know
how
the
system
works
here
and
so
he's
trying
to
figure
out
where
to
go
now,
he's
blocking
things
that
kind
of
thing.
So,
in
my
opinion,
like
I
said
this,
is
we
need
to
start
looking
at
who's,
causing
the
problem
who's
benefiting
from
this
situation
and
who's
causing
the
problem.
B
In
my
opinion,
you
have
a
trucker
is
coming
in
from
points
north
and
tell
me
from
wrong
place.
They
come
in
and
they're
just
trying
to
deliver
a
look.
Okay,
so
they're
told
to
wait
outside
they
don't
work
for
the
company
they're
delivering
for
too
and
they're
out
there.
So
do
I
start
siding
towing
away
a
driver,
that's
trying
to
do
what
he
needs
to
do
or
a
company
that's
taking
their
sweet
time,
because
they
have
one
guard
at
the
door
and
they're
in
no
hurry
because
it's
not
affecting
their
land.
B
So,
in
my
opinion,
I
think
that's
one
area
we
need
to
explore.
If
let
me
know
if
you
agree
is
to
to
start
putting
the
burden.
The
blame
responsibility
on
the
ones
that
are
causing
those
backups
onto
the
street,
for
instance,
and
same
thing
here-
is
a
there's,
many
companies
that
have
gone
to
the
effort,
the
expense
of
buying
acres
of
property.
I'm
sure
you
can
think
of
companies
that
do
that.
Okay
and
they
have
no
problem.
B
They
run
a
man
and
their
guard
shack
is
further
into
their
property
and
they
can
line
up
two
or
three
or
four
or
five
trucks
inside
their
property.
It
doesn't
affect
the
street
that
much
but
there's
other
ones
that
the
guard
shack
is
right
at
the
at
the
door,
the
curb
and
that's
the
ones
backing
up.
So
if
we
start
okay,
I'm
just
playing
devil's
advocate.
C
B
Know
landon
radio
is
very,
very
expensive,
though
yes,
so
this
company,
if
a
company,
has
a
force.
I
said
you
know
what
we're
going
to
grow.
You
know
I
want
my
trucks
to
be
packing
up
and
you
know
I
can
move
my
merchandise
faster
than
it
up
and
they
have
no
space.
Other
companies
have
said
well
I'll,
take
them
and
want
to
take
them
in
without
giving
any
names.
There's
a
company
along
a
major
highway.
B
So
I
wanted
to
put
that
before
you
say:
okay,
who
do
we
focus
on
as
far
as
the
ordinance
last
time
we
we
looked
at
ordinances
for
those
drivers
that
are,
I
guess,
purposely
parking
in
wrong
areas.
But
what
about
the
people
that
come
to
laredo?
Don't
know
where
they're
going?
Then
they
still?
You
hang
out
and
they'll
go
to
a
walmart
if
they
can
and
that
kind
of
thing,
and
now
those
places
don't
want
them
there,
so
they
have
nowhere
to
go.
F
No,
no,
I
mean,
with
all
due
respect,
I
mean
identifying
the
problem
person.
I
I
think
is
maybe
not
the
right
solution.
I
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
say,
you're
creating
the
problem,
mr
big
industrial
company,
you
need
to
somehow
fix
the
problem,
and-
and
if
I
was
mr
big
industrial
company,
I
would
tell
you
well
I
planted
I
built
my
facility.
I
got
my
permits.
I
followed
all
regulations
at
the
time
that
I
did
all
of
this
now.
B
F
Like
we
understand
that
your
operations
have
created
a
problem
for
the
city
granted
that
you
you
were
given
and
you
met
all
the
requirements
at
the
time,
but
this
has
now
created
a
problem.
We
have
addressed
the
problem
with
all
future
development
by
requiring
more
space
and
parking,
and
so
forth
and
people
are
complying.
F
City
and-
and
you
are
going
to
we're
going
to
work
together,
you're
going
to
implement
a
circulation
policy
on
your
end,
you're
going
to
do
this
on
your
end
and
we're
going
to
do
this
on
our
end,
to
try
to
help
or
or
to
try
to
manage
the
traffic
a
little
bit
better.
We're
going
to
put
up.
We
are
going
to
start
enforcing
things
a
little
more.
F
A
E
Don't
have
a
solution
yet,
but
I
want
to
let
you
know
something
the
trucking
industry
is
is
getting
bigger
and
bigger,
and
you,
I
think,
taking
examples
of
other
cities.
They
have
a
big
big
parking
lot
for
trucking
for
the
other
cities.
I'm
not
telling
that
the
the
problem
in
this
city
is
from
other
cities.
I'm
telling
that
we
need
to
to
have
a
big
big
lot
for
parking,
and
probably
this
can
be
public.
E
D
F
D
F
D
Totally
agree,
I
think
we
most
definitely
need
a
a
centralized
parking
area
for
trucks,
but
that's
not
the
fix
for
the
daily
operation
of
all
the
freight
forwarders
and
customs
brokers.
It's
not
taking
the
the
trailers
off
the
the
streets
at
that
moment
when
they're
parked
having
to
offload,
especially
if
they're
on
employment
times
and
they
have
to
deliver
before
four
o'clock,
because
the
broker's
not
going
to
receive
anymore.
So
it's
a
fantastic
idea,
but
me
being
a
local
transportation
that
has
worked
for
a
national
company
for
all
this
time.
We
have.
D
C
D
D
C
D
D
Just
like
you
said,
you
know
we
kind
of
know
what
the
issue
is.
We
know
the
issue
is
the
warehousing,
and
maybe
they
don't
they
they've
grown.
So
much
just
like
you
said
this.
This
industry
is
just
growing
and
growing
on
a
daily
basis.
We
see
it,
we
feel
it
and
we're
we're
experiencing
these
growing
pains.
B
Two
things
real
quick,
mr
quick.
As
an
engineer
what
I'm
talking
about
some
whenever
engineers
put
together
estimates
or
proposals,
one
of
those
solutions
is
always
do
nothing.
Nothing,
no
build
okay,
sometimes
it's
just
better
to
do
it.
Okay,
from
what
I've
heard
from
what
you
heard
last
time,
the
problem
is
there:
is
it's
getting
bigger?
Okay,
I'm
not
saying
it's
worse,
but
it's
getting
bigger,
it's
encompassing
more
streets
and
stuff
like
that.
Going
back
to
the
example
I
had
you
mentioned
the
warehouses
and
stuff.
B
This
is
just
me
thinking
out
loud,
okay,
publicly,
but
you
have
a
warehouse,
independent
truckers,
delivering
to
it.
What
in
incentive
do
they
have
to
do
anything
because
they're
using
the
city
streets
as
their
queuing
area,
their
property?
They
don't
need
to
fix
anything,
it's
working
perfectly
fine
for
them.
The
problem
is
we're
inheriting
it
and
the
people
that
are
around
need
to
go
through.
If
I
have
a
warehouse-
and
I
have
10
trucks
out
there,
waiting
they're
going
to
get
in
eventually,
but
the
mess
is
their
problem
right.
B
E
Agree
and
that's
the
reason
I
brought
this
to
you,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
the
problem
is
with
the
trucks
that
are
online
to
be
on
load
or
the
trucks
that
are
parking
on
the
side,
I'm
in
the
in
the
north
part
of
the
city
every
day.
So
for
me,
the
trucks
that
are
on
online
to
be
unloaded
there
is,
I
think
there
is
not
a
problem
with
those
trucks.
Actually
they
are
moving,
probably
and
is
getting.
E
B
And
there's
warehousing
on
both
sides
there's
one
way
in
it's
got
a
cul-de-sac
at
the
end,
a
truck
comes
in
and
the
first
first
warehouse
is
on
the
right-hand
side.
There's
a
driveway
right
there
and
there's
a
guard
shack.
So
they
got
six
seven.
Eight
ten
trucks
lining
up,
that's
how
it
fits
and
they're
waiting
to
go
into
that
one.
B
You
have
trucks
that
are
trying
to
go
through
to
the
next
warehouse,
that's
on
the
left-hand
side
of
the
road,
so
they're
trying
to
get
into
that
one
okay.
So
meanwhile,
you
got
this
lane
over
here
blocked
off
now
these
guys
are
trying
to
get
into
the
left
turn
lane
over
here,
but
there's
another
guard
shack
there
and
it's
taking
10
20
minutes
to
process
each
one.
So
now
the
guys
that
came
in
from
you
know
minnesota
or
whatever
they
don't
want
to
lose
their
place
in
line.
B
So
you
have
one
truck
in
the
middle
of
the
street
trying
to
take
a
left,
but
he
can't
take
the
left
because
the
guard
shack
won't
let
him
in
now
you
got
10
trucks
lined
up
behind
him,
yeah.
Okay!
Meanwhile,
there's
other
warehouses
beyond
that.
So
now
we've
got
trucks
that
are.
We
have
two
queues
of
trucks.
The
next
truck
wants
to
get
around
these.
A
B
A
Give
you
a
little
buzzer
and
they're
like
hey,
we're
going
to
buzz
you
when
we're
ready.
Is
there
something?
I
know
that
that's,
but
is
there
something
that
possibly
we
send
them
to
a
central
location
and
they
are
called
or
they're
notified
when
they're
ready?
I
don't
again
I'm
not
in
this
industry,
but
is
that
something
that
might
might
work.
D
Yeah,
I
think
it
would
work,
especially
if
you're
in
a
centralized
parking
and
they
give
like
30
minutes
to
get
from
point
a
to
that
point
b
because
you're
right,
because
if
he
gets
out
of
line
or
a
policeman
comes
and
says
you
all
need
to
move,
he
gets
out
of
line.
All
he's
going
to
do
is
go
around
the
block
and
get
right
back
in
line
and
he's
already
lost
his
position.
D
It's
going
to
cost
you
so
much
for
every
half
hour
and
more
after
this
time,
not
that
we're
crossing
the
line,
but
now
we're
putting
the
pressure
on
the
freight
forwarder
broker
to
get
us
unloaded
in
a
timely
manner
to
get
our
driver
out
there,
because
now
he's
got
to
deliver
to
your
warehouse
and
go
get
in
that
line.
Again
so.
F
F
Okay,
so
creating
these
large
barriers
in
movement,
northbound
and
southbound,
and
restricting
left
turn
movements
may
improve
circulation
and
at
least
get
cars
through
keep
going
and
not
back
up
with
someone
wanting
to
turn
left
and
someone
wanting
to
turn
out
now.
The
whole
street's
back
what's
happening
now,
which
is
what's
happening
now,
so
you
restrict
the
left,
turn
movement.
F
Now
they
can't
turn
left
either.
They
keep
going
straight
to
hit
a
light
and
then
try
to
turn
around
and
come
back
and
and
to
get
into
the
other
side,
or
they
figured
out
that
they
can't
come
in
that
way
from
the
at
the
now
now
that
they
know
until
then,
they
they
find
the
better
route.
And
then
we
improve
traffic.
B
B
In
my
opinion,
we
need
to
start
planning
for
a
better.
Let
me
give
you
another
scenario
and
I'll
use.
Mine's
road,
no,
no
secrets
there.
We
have
an
industrial
park.
Actually
there's
two
of
them.
Trade
center
and
pat
american
are
the
entrances
to
that.
You
guys
know
those
areas.
Okay,
traffic
signals
that
over
the
years
will
now.
B
There
wasn't
long
enough,
so
we
had
to
make
it
a
dual
left
and
then
that
wasn't
enough,
so
we
had
to
make
it
even
longer
well
now
textile's
going
to
try
and
help
that
solution
by
doing
what's
called
smart
street
concept.
Remember:
okay!
So
this
is
just
food
for
thought.
Okay,
so
we
obviously
have
those
signals
way
over
capacity,
so
much
so
that
the
trucks
can't
stay
in
their
left
turn
lanes.
What
happens?
B
B
B
B
Another
okay,
so
we
have
basically
I'm
going
to
call
it
one
and
a
half
entrances
on
on
the
you
know.
On
the
on
the
east
side:
it's
more
pollen
than
the
west
side.
You
know
on
the
west
side,
they
don't
have
the
railroad
to
deal
with
it.
So
it's
a
lot
easier.
I
call
it
one
and
a
half
entrances,
because
we
have
a
railroad
that
has
I'm
not
gonna,
say
a
number,
but
it
has
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
railroad.
B
Trains
go
through
there
every
day,
okay,
so
it
blocks
off
the
unit
oil
entrance
so
many
times
a
day
that
when
the
train
is
actually
there,
that's
one
thing
and
then,
by
the
time
the
trucks
have
been
queuing
for
half
a
mile
by
the
time
they
get
through
the
next
stream's
already
there.
So
I
call
that
basically,
a
half
entrance.
The
the
real
entrance
is
over
here
on
carriage.
B
Developed
area
right
now,
and
we
made
a
presentation
to
a
group
out
there
not
too
long
ago.
The
developed
area
now
is
900
or
something
acres.
Let's
call
it
a
thousand
acres
okay.
So
when
I
was
at
texas,
we
had
gotten
to
the
point
where
the
traffic
was
backing
up
so
much
into
that
ramp.
That
is
right
there
to
get
off
that
there
was.
B
That
so
and
then
the
trucking
companies,
forwarders
customs
brokers
that
are
there
now
they're
saying
it
sometimes
takes
us
hours
to
get
out
of
there
and
then
what
they're
really
concerned
about
is
the
lack
of
emergency
response
that
you
know
it
takes
forever
not
too
long
ago.
I
think
there
was
a
derailment
and
it
locked
up
the
whole
area
and
nobody
could
get
in
and
out.
B
Now,
okay,
well,
everyone
knows
that.
There's
some
other
land,
that's
going
to
get
developed
up
there.
It's
a
big
red
round
area,
I
won't
say
the
name
of
the
developer:
that's
2,
000,
more
acres,
2200
action!
Okay!
Does
anybody
here
have
any
doubts
that
that
intersection
can
handle
more
trucks,
you're
going
to
put
an
overpass
right
right?
Well,
fortunately,.
B
In
late
24
or
so
they're
going
to
update
the
universal
interchange,
okay
and,
at
the
same
time,
they're
going
to
construct
an
interchange
where
the
new
a
chart
with
interval
comes
in
right,
but
they're
going
to
construct
interchange,
but
they
are
not
going
to
put
a
piece
that
goes
over
the
railroad.
That's
going
to
be
up
to
the
developer
city
of
laredo
anybody
else
that
wants
to
contribute.
B
H
B
B
B
G
B
B
B
B
All
these
things
that,
if
you
say
let's,
let's
have
everybody,
do
a
traffic
impact
analysis,
but
I
literally
will
not
do
anything
else
except
free
traffic
impact
analysis
all
day
long,
if
that's
the
case,
so
I'm
very
the
reason
I
kind
of
didn't
proceed
with
the
with
the
an
ordinance
to
require.
One
is
because
I
didn't
want
to
make
a
mandatory
when
I
could
work
it
out
with
the
landowner.
B
I
have
to
have
enough
experience
to
say
you
know
what
I
can
give
you
two
driveways
and
call
it
a
day
if
you're
good
with
that,
then
no,
if
you
disagree
with
me,
then
now
give
me
a
study
and
most
of
the
time
I
think
we
can
always
find
some
common
ground.
It
makes
my
job
a
lot
easier.
It's
just
you
know
being
very
truthful
about
the.
What
the.
F
Impact
of
our
work
well,
our
current
ordinance
and
requirements.
When
we
work
on
designs
and
master
plans,
we
have
to
follow
a
master
thoroughfare
plan,
that's
developed
by
the
city
of
the
raider
and
that
master
thoroughfare
plan
identifies
the
pavement
with
the
requirements
for
a
street
to
be
designed.
So
when
a
developer
puts
in
a
master
plan.
F
B
Show
you
how
everything
today
is
about
this
and
then
that
yin
and
yang
day,
I
guess
we
might
not
solve
anything
today
or
like
we're
not
going
to
solve
it
today,
we're
just
looking
for
ideas,
but
we
have
a
therapeutic
plan
and
I'm
going
to
use
some
bad
examples.
We
have
a
new
development,
that's
going
on.
B
So
I
what
you
said
about
city
up
in
this
game,
I
I
agree
with
that.
A
hundred
percent,
one
of
the
ideas
that
needs
to
be
thrown
around
is
like
an
impact.
We
have
water
and
sewer
impact
fees.
A
lot
of
cities
have
traffic
transportation
impact
phase
so
that
those
connections
can
be
done
now.
You
know
very
well,
mr
pig,
that
when
the
development
comes
in
they'll
over.
B
F
B
Problems
to
me
they
have
to
be
happy
hand-in-hand
earlier.
You
mentioned
okay,
and
I
was
going
to
get
back
to
that.
Is
that
you're?
Talking
about
the
planning
procedures
and
stuff,
like
that,
you
open
up
a
new
restaurant
to
your
audience
to
say
that
for
every
person
you're
going
to
have
capacity,
you
need
to
have
a
car
car
and
a
half
two
cars
whatever
it
is.
Okay
for
trucking,
I
have
not
seen
that
there
may
be
for
the
employees.
It
says
how
many
employees
you're
going
to
have.
B
You
need
to
provide
and
then
you
need
to
be
able
to
cue
them
on
your
property,
not
on
the
street,
so
you
see
how
it
all
ties
in
is.
We
have
to
look
at
the
problems
we
have
now,
but
we
also
have
to
make
sure
that
they're
not
repeated
in
the
future
development.
That's
something
I
I'm
trying
to
really
keep
my
eye
on.
I
spent
a
lot
of
my
time
on
new
development.
B
B
And
I
mean,
in
my
opinion
and
honestly
at
this,
I
won't
even
say
what
I'm
kind
of
plagiarizing
this
idea
from
somebody
else's.
I
think
we
need
to
start
looking
at
a
way
and
I'm
going
to
put
some
quotes
to
incentivize
the
companies
that
are
causing,
like
whatever
it
is,
the
nicest
way
possible
whether
it's
penalties
whatever.
B
But
we
have
to
make
sure
that,
because
they've
been
working
a
certain
way
for
years,
they
don't
have
any
incentive
to
make
it
faster
to
queue
up
on
their
plan.
I
think
we
have
to
start
looking
at
that.
I'm
not
saying
I
have
a
solution
for
it.
You
know,
but
right
now
the
only
the
only
club
I
have
is
to
go,
give
a
parking
ticket
to
a
truck
or
call.
B
F
F
You
do
have
the
authority
to
restrict
restrict
movement,
restrict
access
points,
number
of
access
points.
You
have
that
authority
to
control
to
to
be
able
to
control
traffic.
You
can
if
they
have
two
driveways,
you
can
shut
one
of
their
driveways
down
because
it's
causing
a
circulation
problem.
You
have
that
authority.
Don't
you?
No?
Oh,
no.
B
B
First
time
I
saw
that
ran
out
there
and
said
you
know
what
this
is
not
right
and
go
legal.
Can
we
find
the
the
the
franchise,
the
restaurant,
whatever?
No,
it's
the
drivers
that
are
causing
the
problem.
So
I
I
have
stood
outside
a
certain
establishment
with
my
ticket
book
in
one
hand
and
say:
if
you
don't
move
your
car
you're
blocking
the
street,
you
know.
So
that's
the
only
person
that
I
can
do
anything.
B
You
know
incentivize
the
the
restaurant
saying
you
know
what
in
a
roundabout
way,
I
may
affect
your
sales
because
the
clients
just
say
you
know
what
I'm
not
going
to
go
put
up
with
danny
mcgee
on
that
corner,
so
I'll
go
somewhere
else,
so
they
will
try.
But
the
minute
I
leave
guess
what
somebody
else
is
there
yeah
right
and
there's
just
too
many.
So
it's
the
same
problem
with
the
trucks
is
that,
except
instead
of
a
drive
through
window,
it's
it's
a
it's
just
a
car.
D
B
Oil
and
shale
gas
plate
was
was
going
very
good
first
thing.
He
says
no
you're
not
going
to
put
your
guard
check
here,
you're
going
to
put
it
in
5
600
feet
right
in
there
right,
but
a
lot
of
these
places
they're
not
set
up
for
as
soon
as
you
go
in
you
gotta
take
a
left
because
the
building
is
right
there,
so
we're
gonna
have
to
work
with
those
kind
of
things
and
and.
D
E
F
B
A
D
F
G
B
Well,
the
first
one
is
is
is,
of
course
trucks
clogging
our
streets.
They
just
do
not
have
anywhere
else
to
go.
That's
that's
number
one!
Okay.
I
have
example
after
example
after
example,
where
the
streets
just
cannot
support
the
queue
of
the
trucks
going
in
there's
five
six
warehouses
in
one
block,
and
it
can't
support.
That's
the
first
one,
all
right.
B
B
Stop
anything,
but
it
just
have
to
has
to
be
planned
development
and-
and
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
to
say
you
know
what,
until
you
build
another
street
here
or
until
your
neighbor
decides
he's
good,
so
that
that
way,
this
developer
will
say:
okay,
neighbor!
I
need
I
need
to
go
through
your
property
and
that's
it
because
I
won't
be
able
to
build
my
piece,
so
they
keep
trying
to
put
that
burden
on
the
city,
but
that
needs
to
be
worked
out.
I
think
okay.
F
F
B
F
A
B
B
D
B
F
Well,
if
it
works
in
that
area,
then
you
then
you
can
take
it
to
an
ordinance
setting,
because
I
think
I
think
it's
by
taking
trying
to
develop
an
ordinance
to
to
fix
the
global
problem.
It
is,
it
becomes
too
big
and
then
it
do.
We
cover
everything
that
needs
to
be
covered,
so
it
only
affects
this,
but
it
doesn't
affect
that,
but
I
I'm
looking
at
it
from
more
of
a
design
aspect
to
to
fix
the
problem.
F
F
F
H
F
F
F
I'm
going
to
do
this
because
you
forced
you're
forcing
me
to
keep
traffic
moving
because
we
got
other
people
other
than
just
you,
but
I
think
that
they
would
be
more
inclined
to
figure
out
a
way
so
that
they,
of
course,
wouldn't
I
think
they
have
to
in
inside
fines.
They
wouldn't
have
to
or
the
city
wouldn't
have
to
you
know,
do
more
enforcement.
I
don't
know,
but
but
I
think
they
would
be
more
than
willing
to
probably
work
with
you
all.
I
don't
know.
G
B
H
F
G
A
G
D
C
B
This
is
an
idea
that
I
brought
before
this
committee
before
and
it
was
more
on
a
superficial
level.
This
is
something
that
is
also
growing
and
growing.
It's
been
discussed
with
several
of
our
of
our
our
council
members,
and
so
I
wanted
to
bring
this
up
to
you
to
get
your
ideas
any
thoughts.
That
kind
of
thing
I
did
want
to
start
with
an
explanation
of
how
speed
limits
are
set
in
texas.
You
know
it's
not
it's
not
where
some
engineer
in
an
office
says
you
know
what
del
mar
should
be
x.
B
You
know
35
40
50
miles
an
hour.
Okay,
there
is
what's
called
a
basic
speed
law
in
texas
and
without
reading
everything
to
you,
but
it's
based
on
the
notion
the
idea,
the
principle
that
a
person
a
reasonable
person-
okay,
that's
their
keyword.
The
reasonable
person
will
drive
a
safe
speed
for
the
conditions.
B
No,
that's
the
maximum
speed
limit.
The
speed
limit
is,
if
it's
raining,
should
you
should
drive
75,
no
yeah,
if
it's
fogged?
No,
is
it
a
sandstorm
or
is
it
a
dirt
storm?
If
this
is
what
the
conditions
call
for
an
officer
can
actually
give
you
a
speeding
ticket
for
going
40
miles
an
hour
if
he
feels
that
that
was
too
fast
for
the
conditions.
B
Not
too
long
ago,
I
drove
san
antonio.
I
couldn't
see
more
than
probably
a
block
in
front
of
me.
I
wouldn't
pull
over
because
nobody
could
see
me,
but
I
had
to
be
going
35
miles
an
hour
that
that
was,
in
my
opinion,
the
safe
speed
for
that.
Okay.
So
the
sign
you
see
on
inside
the
road
that
is
the
maximum
speed.
B
I
want
to
make
that
distinction.
That's
what's
called
the
the
basic
speed
law.
Okay,
everything
else
is
based
on
that.
We
also
have
laws
they're
called
prima
facie.
Another
lawyer,
I
probably
pronounce
that
is
where
the
legislature
senate,
you
know
et
cetera,
have
said
you
know
on
this
kind
of
road
we're
going
to
set
a
speed
limit
of
so
much.
B
That's
where
the
75
miles
an
hour
come
from.
That's
that's
a
prima
facie
speed
limit,
okay
and
we
have
those
limits
for
almost
every
kind
of
road.
You
know
a
county
road
can
go
down
in
20
miles
an
hour
residential
streets
in
urban
area,
30
miles
an
hour.
That's
why
you
see
30
miles
an
hour
throughout
almost
95
of
the
radio,
that's
where
that
comes
from
okay.
B
If,
if,
if
you
read
right,
where
it
says
underline,
says
my
texas
law
primary
efficiency
limits
are
as
follows:
urban
districts
are
30
miles
per
hour
on
the
street.
Okay,
that's
where
the
radio
is
okay.
Now
the
the
ruling
bodies
have
been
wise
enough
to
say
you
know
what
we're
going
to
set
a
speed
limit
here,
but
we
don't
know
every
situation
out
there.
B
B
I
did
want
to
talk
about
this
real
quick,
the
last
line.
That's
underlined
there,
the
lowest
speed
limit
that
you
heard
me
mention
that
a
county
rule
can
be
20
miles
an
hour.
Okay,
the
lowest
a
city
street
can
be
by
law,
is
25
miles
an
hour,
so
even
if
we
think
it
should
be
20
or
15
or
10
by
law.
We
cannot
go
that
low.
Okay,
just
so
you
know
that
25
is
the
absolute
lowest.
You
can
do.
B
B
And
it's
incorporated
by
reference
into
the
law.
It
says
you
do
a
study
and
if,
as
long
as
a
certain
amount
of
cars
pass
through
there,
what
85
of
the
people
that
drove
through
a
road,
that's
what
is
reasonable.
It's
been
determined
that
85
percent
is
reasonable,
you're
going
to
have
50
percent.
That
are
what
too,.
B
Right,
you
drop
them
off.
Actually
anything
below
85
is
counted
as
the
85.
It's
only
the
15,
that's
above
it,
oh
even
the
level
okay.
So
when
when
then
I
I
will
take
those
numbers
for
a
traffic
engineer,
whatever
the
case
would
be,
and
then
we'll
say
you
know
what
85
of
the
people
are
going
40
miles
an
hour,
but
we've
had
x
amount
of
accidents
out
there
or
the
road
is
kind
of
deteriorating
a
little
bit.
B
So
then
the
engineer
can
use
his
judgment
says
you
know
what,
if
it's
coming
out
at
39
miles
an
hour,
but
I
don't
want
to
put
40.
I'm
gonna
go
down
to
35,
because
the
road's
narrow
there's
too
many
driveways
accidents
I
can
mention.
So
we
have
a
little
bit
of
discretion.
Okay,
I
can't
say
it's
85
miles
if,
if
85th
percentile
is
40
but
danny
mcgee
says
no,
no,
I
like
25
better.
That's
that
that's
not
the
discretion!
Okay,
I
can't
justify
okay.
So
that's
what
we
want
to
look
at
today.
B
So
these
are
tech
sites
procedures
and
we
basically
follow
them.
We
have
as
a
city,
we
have
the
autonomy
and
the
right
to
set
our
own
speed
limits.
We
could
even
set
speed
limits
on
their
highways
if
we
do
the
study
and
they
agree
to
it-
on
a
on
a
highway
like,
for
instance,
luke
20
59.
Those
highways
txdot
does
those
studies,
basically
in
the
past
100
times,
but
they
will
always
come
to
the
city
and
have
the
city
pass
an
ordinance
to
agree
to
that?
Why?
Because
who
enforces
the
law?
B
It's
the
cops
that
we
have
here:
the
pd,
the
constables,
the
sheriff.
So
this
the
state
wants
buy-in
on
those
so
that
that
sometimes
will
be
negotiation.
You
know
when
textile
saying
is
40,
but
we
agree,
shift
35
and
we'll
look
at
it.
It
may
come
to
35
or
let's
see
how
it
works
out.
That
kind
of
thing
I
wanted
to
bring
this
up,
because
my
ideas
are
that
some
of
the
roles
we
have
in
town
are
just
a
little
too
low
and
say
well.
Everyone
wants
lower
and
lower
speed
limits.
B
They
actually
did
a
study
and
they
did
enough
points
in
their
residential
neighborhoods
to
be
statistically
accurate.
You
know
a
representative
because
it's
remember
it
requires
a
study
and
who
knows
how
many
residents
recently
had
thousands?
You
can't
do
a
study,
they
did
enough
points
to
say
residential
streets
that
are
this
wide
and
have
maybe
an
adt
which
is
at
average
daily
traffic
of
so
much.
B
B
Basically,
this
fits
in
with
that.
Okay
is
that
when
we
have
a
city
where
99
of
the
speed
limits
are
30
miles
an
hour
nobody's
looking
to
see
what
the
speed
limit
is
anymore,
and
so
we
we,
you
know
in
a
roundabout
way,
we
create
a
lot
of
law
breakers.
Let
me
take
an
example,
for
instance,
near
my
office,
there's
thomas
avenue:
it's
a
that's
a
truck
route,
nice
wide
street
made
of
concrete,
there's
no
potholes
in
that
thing
done
a
few
years
ago,
30
miles
an
hour.
B
I
can
tell
you
from
driving
that
every
day
that
erica
probably
realizes,
there's
nobody
going
30
miles
an
hour,
nothing
so
by
leaving
an
unrealistic
speed
limit
of
30
miles
an
hour
when
everyone
is
driving
at
35
38.
Maybe
in
40
we
we
are
almost
purposely
creating
law
breakers,
because
the
people
are
saying
texas
law
says:
85
percent
of
the
people
establish
the
speed
limit,
but
you
have
it
at
30.,
so
you're
making
everybody
that's
over
30
into
a
law
breaker
when
the
speed
limit
should
accurately
reflect
what
people
are
telling.
You
is
safe.
B
B
You
know
here
to
use
those
the
cliche
air
quotes,
speeding
as
they're,
measured
by
someone
that's
standing
on
the
sidewalk
and
they
see
a
car
zoom
by
and
it's
going
30,
maybe
37
30
miles
an
hour,
and
the
perception
is
that
they're
going
50
60
miles
an
hour.
We've
taken
many
many
accounts
in
the
neighborhoods
and
to
show
those
things
that
very
few
actual
neighborhood
streets
anybody's
going
over
30
miles
an
hour.
B
A
lot
of
our
studies
show
they're
going
27
28
miles
an
hour,
so
it
kind
of
fits
in
and
it
kind
of
backs
up.
What
austin
did
is
that
in
the
neighborhoods
we
want
people
to
go
a
lot
slower
and
it
ranks
it
because
that's
where
you
have
people
that
are
walking
people
backing
out
of
driveways
with
their
kids.
You
know
a
lot.
We
see
a
lot
of
basketball
courts
around
radio
on
the
sidewalk,
so
it
that
the
city
streets
are
meant
for
that
kind
of
thing,
the
residential
ones.
B
Okay,
now
you
have
a
street,
that's
more
of
a
collector.
A
collector
doesn't
have
houses
from
them
and
the
hierarchy
we
have
is
we
have
a
residential
street
and
the
collector
takes
some
of
those,
and
then
they
feed
into
what's
in
arterial
arterial
is
the
bigger
streets
we
have
like
del
mar
shiloh
those.
B
So
by
putting
speed
limits
30
miles
an
hour
when
everyone's
telling
you
it
should
be
35
that
tells
our
judges,
our
police.
We
did
a
study
here.
It
used
to
be
30.
Now
we're
saying
it's
35
and
we
mean
it.
We
did
a
study.
85
percent
of
the
people
have
said
it's
35,
not
not
a
prima
facie
speed
limit
that
was
set.
You
know
up
in
austin
at
30
miles
an
hour
and
nobody
ever
bothered
to
change
it.
So
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
offer
is.
B
The
idea
is
that
some
speed
limit
needs
to
go
up
and
some
need
to
go
down,
so
it
may
stay
the
same,
but
it's
a
way
of
telling
people.
This
is
been
studied
here
and
we.
This
is
what
we
mean
here.
This
is
the
study
here,
and
this
is
what
we
mean
here,
as
opposed
to
just
saying.
The
whole
town
is
30
and
everyone's
breaking
the
law.
B
H
A
B
Then
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
next
time
is
bringing
an
actual
presentation.
Just
a
couple
of
these
to
showcase
sounds
great,
where
it's
going
lower.
Okay,
that
sounds
great.
There's
always
a
little
bit
of
sort
of.
I
guess,
concern
caution
that
say:
well,
there's
pedestrians
in
that
area.
You
know
if
we
raise
the
speed
limit,
they're
going
to
get
hit
or
it's
more
dangerous,
but
the
fact
is
if
we
raise
a
speed
limit,
it's
because
they're
already
driving
that
speed.
It's
not
like
we're.
B
B
G
A
B
The
only
time
that
we
as
engineers
do
that-
and
actually
I
did
it
on
I-35-
is
we
had
people
that,
because
they
don't
want
to
go
through
the
traffic
signal
on
the
fringe
road
they'll
get
on
and
they're
going
30
miles
an
hour
and
that
becomes
a
safety
problem,
so
we
actually
put
minimum
speed
limits,
but
the
same
way
you
have
maximum
speed
limits.
The
minimum
speed
of
that
needs
to
be
passed
to
the
commission
and
also
you
know
in
this
case.
So
if
you
ever
notice
on
35,
I
think
it's
50
miles
an
hour.
B
G
I've
seen
I
saw
an
accident
many
years
ago
and
young
guy
and
I
know
who
he
was
and
he
came
with
this
little
man
wham
and
I
mean
you
know
they
ticketed
the
old
man,
but
I
mean
there's
no
sense
for
it
and
I
still
see
it
sometimes
you'll
see
people,
you
know.
Puerto
rico's
are
coming
from
across
and
they're
scared
to
get
up
there
and
moving.
But
yes,
I
mean
you
see,
people
coming
over
a
hill.
B
H
B
You
do
this
without
any
pay,
and
I
I
I
took
this
from
kirby
our
our
last
planning
director
he
used
to
thank
the
committee.
I
said
you
know
what
that's
something
that
it
needs
to
be
done.
You're
here,
saving
up
your
time.
You
know
serving
your
civic
duty
here,
so
I
thank
you
for
that
and
any
support
you
get.
You
know,
because
at
our
level
we
really
can't
do
a
whole
lot.
It's
really
more
just
recommend
to
the
ones
that
can
do
it.