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Description
Transportation and Traffic Satety Advisory Committee Meeting 072121
A
Okay:
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started
good
evening:
everyone,
transportation
and
traffic
safety
advisory
committee
again
good
evening.
I
have
approximately
605
pm
item
number
one
call
to
order
roll
call.
I
have
adrian
dominguez
present
mr
armando
garza,
absent
mr
fred
dickey
russian,
mr
jeffrey
puig
president
mr
siro
gonzalez
present,
mrs
karen.
A
B
C
C
A
A
A
F
Good
evening,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
priscilla
iglesias,
I'm
the
executive
director
for
laredo
main
street,
but
I
also
serve
on
the
downtown
parking
advisory
group
for
for
this
committee.
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
all
a
brief
report
of
what
the
subcommittee
has
been
working
on.
We
had
a
meeting
on
july,
8th
that
consisted
of
stakeholders
in
the
downtown
area,
and
we
had
about
35
to
40
people
that
were
in
attendance.
F
That
day
is
that
no
okay,
and
so
we
what
we
did
just
to
give
you
a
little
rundown
of
how
the
meeting
was
run.
We
had
the
10
recommendations
that
the
parking
study
recommended
to
to
this
committee
and
we
had
them
posted.
We
had
every
stakeholder
that
was
there,
review
them,
go
over
them
and
then
we
went
over.
F
We
opened
it
up
kind
of
like
an
open
forum
asking
for
questions
and
feedback
regarding
each
of
the
recommendations,
and
so
for
there's
three
things
that
really
stood
out
to
from
the
feedback
that
we
got
back
from
the
group.
One
of
them
was
the
parking
meters,
the
time,
the
amount
and
the
hot
zones.
So
what
we
were
able
to
determine
that
night
was
that
in
the
recommendations
there
was
a
request
to
extend
parking
time
and
increase
the
amount
on
some
of
the
meters
in
the
hot
zones.
F
F
We
had
the
the
traffic
department
director
there
and
he
was
you
know
in
conversation
with
us
and
he
was
there
giving
us
updates
on
work
that
has
already
been
done
on
some
of
the
items,
but
that
was
one
that
I
think
that
we
should
really
look
at
review
and
see
if
there's
room
for
improvement.
There
number
two
also
on
that
note-
is
also
reviewing
the
hot
zones.
We
have
to
remember
that
this
study
was
done
prior
to
covid.
F
F
So
that
was
number
two
and
number
three,
which
I
think
was
the
biggest
one
that
we
that
we
heard
was
parking
for.
Employees
is
a
huge
huge
thing
for
anyone
that
works
in
the
downtown
area.
We
took
a
survey
and
from
that
survey
they're
telling
us
that
they
spend
over
200
a
month
on
parking
meters
or
parking
to
work
in
the
downtown
area.
F
So
I
mean
when
we
talk
about
deterrence
to
come
in
downtown,
I
mean
even
to
work
in
the
downtown
area,
you're
already
faced
with
something
like
an
out-of-pocket
expense
that
you're
going
to
have
to
incur
working
in
the
downtown
area.
So
one
of
the
things
that
that
kind
of
came
up
was
maybe
a
parking
pass
that
an
employee
can
prove
and
again.
F
This
will
have
to
go
in
into
more
research
and
more
details,
but
where
they
can
prove
employment
at
us
as
at
a
specific
establishment,
and
they
can
pay
a
certain
amount
of
dollars
every
month
to
have
this
parking
pass
that
they
can
park
and
we
determined
that
it
would
be
safe
to
say
not
in
the
hot
zones,
because
obviously
the
hot
zones
are
the
the
areas
that
customers
really
tend
to
to
to
park
at.
So
those
were
some
of
the.
I
guess,
the
top
three
things
that
really
were
popping
out
at
us.
F
The
takeaway,
for
me
at
least,
was
that
it's
it's
gonna
be
a
disservice.
If
we
go
before
city
council
and
say
all
of
these
10
recommendations
like
let's
just
pass
them
forward,
I
think
that
each
one
has
a
lot
of
detail
that
we
need
to
look
at
and
feedback
and
review
that
this
will
take.
You
know,
step
by
step,
I
think,
by
starting
by
these
top
three
things,
because
these
are
kind
of
like
what
everyone
was
really
you
know,
hyped
about.
F
Also,
mr
siro
gonzalez
was
also
there
and
if
I
miss
anyone
else,
I'm
sorry,
but
I
was
with
a
lot
of
people
that
night
and
then
I
did
want
to
also
mention
that
district
7
and
district
8
councilwoman
vanessa,
perez
and
alisa
arroyo
were
also
in
attendance.
They
heard
the
feedback
from
the
community
and
I
and
I
feel
like
we
all,
have
the
same
sentiment
regarding
the
parking
study,
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
forward
to
you
all
our
subcommittee
will
move
forward.
F
However,
this
committee
decides
or
chooses
to,
but,
as
I
mentioned,
I
think
if
we
can
go
through
these
one
by
one
and
make
really
good
decisions
on
this,
I
think
that
would
be
the
best
way
to
make
everyone
happy
right.
We
know
that
the
the
parking
traffic
department
has
to
fund
their
their
their
department.
We
understand
that
and
we
want
to
find
a
common
ground
that
will
make
that
will
also
encourage
people
to
come
to
the
downtown
area.
That
parking
is
not.
You
know
something
that
deters
them
and
number
two
working.
E
Absolutely
yes,
please,
yes,
but
first
I
want
to
commend
you
what
a
great
function.
It
was
a
great
turnout,
the
collaboration
between
all
the
the
people
that
were
there
all
the
downtown
folks,
the
residents
and
the
store
owners
and
stuff
like
that,
good
job,
good
feedback
back
and
forth-
and
I
agree
with
you-
I
think
we
had-
we
could
have
been
there
all
night.
E
We
really
could
have
been
there
all
night
and
it
was
just
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
and
I
think
we
came
up
or
when
we
discussed
it
right
after
the
meeting
was,
let's
pick
the
three
top
things
like
you
just
mentioned
yeah.
I
think
the
top
three
things
that
you
mentioned
were
spot
on
and
let
the
subcommittee
and
and
this
committee
move
forward
with
those
three
to
present
something
to
city
council.
The
biggest
one
I
heard
was
the
parking
employee
parking.
F
Right
now,
unfortunately,
the
capabilities
are
not
there
to
just
you
know,
add
time
from
an
app
which
I
know
that
the
department
is
working
on
and
we'll
we'll
eventually
be
able
to
get
there,
but
right
now
these
are
the
immediate
things
and,
and
those
tickets
add
up,
I
mean
if
you
don't
pay
it
within
the
next.
You
know
a
certain
amount
of
days.
It
goes
to
twenty
dollars,
thirty
dollars
and
then
you're.
Now
you
have.
E
And
that's
what
the
the
employers
were
saying:
it's
hard
for
them
to
get
people
to
apply
for
these
jobs,
one
because
there's
no
parking
and
two
if
there
is
parking
they're
getting
tickets
on
top
of
that,
because
they're
having
to
leave
their
place
of
business
because
they're
only
allowed
to
put
two
hours
on
the
parking.
So
if
you
got
somebody
there,
eight
hours
they're
having
to
leave
that
place
of
business
to
go
put
coins
into
the
into
the
the
meter.
E
F
F
You
know
we
have
some
experts
that
really
looked
into
and
and
dissected
our
our
issues
that
we
have
regarding
parking,
but
I
do
think
that
again
after
covet
and
and
talking
to,
stakeholders
who
are
the
ones
that
are
actually
going
to
be
affected
by
all
of
this
is
is
really
a
crucial
point
to
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
call
right.
H
Well,
I
think
it
at
this
point.
What
we
would
need
to
do
is
have
your
subcommittee
or
the
subcommittee
bring
the
actual
action
items,
because
you
mentioned
things
like
parking
meters,
time
in
the
hot
zones,
increasing
fees
and
decreasing
fees
and
giving
credits
and
all
that.
But
I
think
what
this
committee
would
have
to
do
is
we'd
have
to
get
some
specifics,
because
if
you
just
said,
if
you're
in
general
we'd
like
to
do
this
well,
we
can't
take
a
general
to
to
the
council.
We
need
to
take
some
specific
items.
A
I
I've
got
questions
you
know,
but
I
think
some
of
these
are
very
good,
but
I've
got
questions
and
I
wonder
I
modeled
my
mentor.
I
mean
what
what
are
they
doing
about
employee
parking
and
cities
our
size
because
we're
not
in
san
antonio?
You
know
what
are
they
doing
there?
Maybe
some
of
that
could
be
shared
by
the
employer.
Oh
I'm
can't
afford
to
pay.
You
know
so,
but
there's
got
to
be
a
happy
medium.
Where
everybody's
happy
we've
got
to
find
the
consensus.
H
I
Other
quick
comment,
because
I've
noticed
this
for
years,
underneath
between
santa
rosala
and
and
san
diego
on
that
overpass
near
downtown,
I
mean
I
know
this,
it
stayed
properly,
but
I
mean
we
could
it
could
be
used
by
the
city
for
employees
and
maybe
let
them
shuttle
on
downtown.
I
mean
it's
just
an
idea,
it's
lots
of
parking
and
it
could
be
made
available
and-
and
you
know,
hey
you've
got
a
place
to
park
and
just
catch
a
shuttle.
H
F
F
Yeah
and
we
understand
the
the
balance
right-
there's
always
you
know
so
you
got
to
give
you
got
to
take
and
that's
that's
what
main
street's
position
is
is
to
present
the
issues
to
both
the
public
sector
and
the
and
the
private
sector
and
say,
look
there's
an
issue
here.
We
know
that
both
of
you
want
to
pull
this
way,
but
let's
meet
in
the
middle
and
that's
kind
of
what
my
job
is
to
do
here.
So.
E
E
F
Yeah-
and
I
think
that
would
be
my
my
route
that
I
would
take,
is
I
I'll
go
back
with
these
three?
You
know
and
I'll
sit
down
with
a
good
group,
maybe
not
the
40
or
whatever,
but
a
good
group
of
stakeholders
and
and
really
start
you
know,
obviously
talking
to
the
department
and
seeing
what
their
needs
are
as
well
and
seeing
how
we
can
reach
an
agreement
on
on
these
three
and
then
from
there.
We
can
move
forward
on
to
the
next.
E
F
H
B
A
B
A
B
A
A
E
B
I
do
have
a
presentation.
I
want
to
show
you
on
the
mines
road.
I
got
these
from
txdot
and
I
invite
them
to
be
here,
but
they
said
that
they
wanted
us
to
have.
I
guess
an
unbiased
look
at
this,
and
then
they
want
us
to
take
the
minutes
or
whatever
comments
we
have
and
take
them
back
with
any
concerns
or
praises
or
a
combination
of
both
whatever
the
case
may
be.
So
what
I
wanted
to
show
you
was
a
couple
layout
sheets.
This
is
the
mines
road.
B
They
call
it
super
street
concept,
there's
several
cities
that
have
tried
this
san
antonio
and
across
the
u.s.
You
know
san
antonio,
just
being
the
closest
one.
I'm
not
sure
it's
ever
been
done
on
a
scale
with
so
many
trucks.
Though
that's
what
my
concern
is
and
I'm
not
saying
it.
Doesn't
it's
not
going
to
work
anything,
but
I
do
have
a
concern
about
it.
B
What
I
do
want
to
show
you
is
working
from
south
to
north
on
miami's
road
and
just
to
orient.
You
here
is
a
I-69.
You
know
the
old
former
loop
20.,
it's
not
called
20
anymore.
So
from
I'm
sorry,
I
guess
homer's
doing
that.
For
me,
I'm
sorry
I
forgot
to
share
with
miss.
I
forget
she's
online
yeah.
Thank
you
homer
alrighty,
so
she
should
be
able
to
see
it
now.
Okay,
so
starting!
This
is
a
very
interesting
change
that
that
the
texas
is
proposing
out
there.
B
The
way
the
this
interchange
right
now
is
functioning
is
like
a
standard
diamond
where
I'm
not
sure.
Here
we
go
where
the
frontage
roads
here
on
this
side,
this
side,
basically
they
come
on
the
left,
turn
on
and
then
the
traffic
has
to
stop
and
then
you're
able
to
turn
on
the
other
one.
Okay.
This
is
called
a
single
point:
interchange,
okay,
what
that
does?
Is
it
realigns
everything
so
that
the
trucks
that
are
turning
here,
you
see
how
there's
I
can
zoom
in
a
little
bit.
If
you
want.
B
There
you
go,
it
allows
the
trucks
in
both
directions
to
turn
the
same
time
or
cars,
whatever
the
case
would
be.
So
what
that
does
is
it?
It
makes
it
more
efficient.
You
know.
Basically,
we
have.
Is
these
two
turning
left
moments?
At
the
same
time,
okay,
that
we
have
out
there
is
called
a
four-phase
diamond,
that's
one
of
the
most
inefficient
types
of
movements
that
we
have
out
there
as
far
as
traffic.
So
that's
a
very,
I
think
it's
a
very
good
good
change
that
we
have
there
okay
and
I'll
proceed
northbound.
B
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
feel
free
to
interrupt
me.
There's
quite
a
few
changes
they're
proposing
if
you
know
the
mines
road
area
very
well.
This
is
right.
Here
is
the
old,
milo
interchange
system.
They
still
call
it
milo
road
that
used
to
be
a
tech,
stop
roadway.
You
got
to
turn
it
over
to
city
street.
B
B
I'm
going
to
show
you
a
model.
Basically,
it's
a
little
movie,
an
animated
movie
of
what
they
envisioned
the
traffic
we'll
be
moving
at.
I
have
a
concern
that
this
usually
is
filled
with
cars,
trucks
all
the
way
back
to
wolf,
creek,
sometimes
all
the
way
back
to
kill
him.
So
if
someone
were
to
take
a
left
turn
here
that
they're
able
to
move
over
to
the
to
the
right
to
get
into
the
queue
for
the
the
bridge
I
haven't
concerned
about
that,
so
we'll
have
to
see
how
that
works
out.
B
B
Well,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
skip
over
all
the
way
to
to
kill
them,
and
then
I
can
work
my
way
back
just
to
show
you
why
they're
doing
these
things?
Okay,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
the
intersection
of
kiln
industrial
boulevard,
riverbank
road,
and
then
the
lanes
going,
northbound,
southbound,
okay,
as
you
can
see,
they've
eliminated,
left,
turns
from
any
direction.
B
If
you're
going
southbound,
you
won't
be
able
to
turn
on
tequila.
If
you're
coming
out
of
riverbank,
you
won't
be
able
to
turn
this
direction.
That's
a
new
proposal.
This
is
this
is
what
this
super
street
concept
is
all
about.
Basically
eliminates
all
left
turns
at
the
major
interchanges.
I
mean
sorry
intersections
right,
okay
and
what
that
does
and
I'll
give
you
a
brief
example
of
how
so
you're
saying.
B
B
B
H
B
Asked
them
to
to
do
that:
they've
taken
the
great
step
of
modeling.
This
and
I'll
show
you
that,
at
the
very
end,
okay
and
but
a
model
is
only
as
good
as
the
calibration
okay,
because
it
it's
kind
of
statistics,
I
can
make
sense
to
show
you
everything
but
model
same
thing.
So
I
want
you
to
see
that
and
then
I
don't
want
to
influence
what
you're
saying
but
you'll
be
able
to
see
how
the
trucks
are
reacting.
Okay,
any
questions
on
this
part.
B
So
if
you
want
to
take
a
left
to
kill
him,
you'll
go
past
the
intersection
get
into
this
queue
here,
you
see
how
there's
a
lane
for
left
turns
make
the
u-turn
go
north
and
then
make
your
right
turn
into
kilo.
Now,
what
they've
done
makes
it
a
lot
easier?
Is
there's
a
dedicated
right
turn
going
into
it.
B
B
This
is
where
we
get
to,
inter
in
america,
same
concept
on
this
one
though
they
have
allowed
the
left
turns
because,
right
now
we
don't,
we
don't
have
this
full
interchange
here.
That's
the
proposed
development.
That's
still
forthcoming,
so
on
this
one
they
have
allowed.
The
left
turns
two
two
lanes
like
it
is
now.
However,
there
are
no
left
turns
coming
out
of
in
america
or
if
this,
if
and
when
this
develops
proceeds
there'll
be
no
left
turns
out
of
it.
So
it'll
be
the
same
concept.
G
G
B
B
B
H
B
Really,
okay,
that's
nice!
So
it's
gonna
be
the
same
thing.
There
I
mean
they
did
provide
a
left
turn
to
go
into
molar.
But
if
you
come
out
a
molar
one
to
go
north,
that's
not
a
very
heavy
movement,
but
it's
got
to
be
accounted
for.
It'll
be
the
same
thing.
The
left
turn
here
and
then
go
north,
and
this
this
traffic
may
be
real
heavy
at
one
point:
if
once
a
development
is,
I
guess
is
allowed
there
it'll
take
a
right
same
thing.
H
B
B
B
G
B
They
don't
make
them
go.
Past
didn't
come
back,
they
are
allowing
these
two
left
turns
in
there.
This
left
turn
coming
out
of
it.
I'm
glad
to
see
this.
It's
a
very
minor
movement,
so
the
few
trucks
that
do
need
to
go
north,
I
have
to
go
back
around.
They
have
to
go
all
right
and
then
the
last
one
here
same
concept
is
panameric.
B
H
With
respect
to
the
modeling,
I
think
what
I
would
like
to
have
tech
talk
provide
to
the
city
and
to
to
our
committee
would
be
to
show
us
a
worst
case
scenario.
What
happens
if
the
delay
is
only
five
seconds
versus
you
know
or
30
seconds
versus
25
seconds
right?
Something
like
that
if
there's
a
longer
delay
that
and
less
vehicles
get
out
what
is
going
to
happen
right.
B
B
All
right,
so
this
is
working
from
the
south
looking
north,
and
this
is
the
loop
20,
the
older
20,
the
I-69
com
corridor
and
you'll,
see
you'll,
see
these
movements
that
we
talked
about
earlier,
how
the
trucks
are
able
to
turn
at
the
same
time.
Hopefully
they
have
enough
of
the
animation
and
then
now
we're
moving
over
to
milo.
B
Yeah,
that's
that's.
My
first
thing
I
noticed
is
that
you
know
there's
a
bunch
of
cars
and
back
when
I
was
with
texas,
we
measured
up
to
60
trucks
in
certain
areas
certain
times
of
day
yeah,
because
that's
not
a
real
world
yeah
and
then
and
then,
like
I
said,
I
don't
want
to
influence
you,
but
look
at
the
way
the
trucks
take
those
turns
and
how
they
speed
out
of
them.
B
F
H
B
B
So
I
did
bring
a
lot
of
these
things
to
their
attention
before
and
they
said
that
they
were
working
on
those
things,
so
I
have
no
doubt
that
they're
making
it
a
better
animation,
a
better
model.
So
but
textile
is
committed
to
to
this
project.
It's
I
think
last
estimate
I
heard
was
just
under
5
million
or
so
so
they
are
investing.
H
A
B
B
B
As
far
as
that,
I
also
asked
them
to
see
they
did
make
a
presentation
out
in
the
miami
area
to
that
section
of
town,
but
in
many
people's
minds
and
including
mine.
This
is
more
of
a
city-wide
issue.
I
mean
it's
a
lot
of
the
of
the
trucks
that
benefit
and
impact
the
rest
of
the
raider
also,
so
we
may
be
looking
to
see
if
council
wants
to
see
it
or
the
mpo
that
kind
of
thing
I
I
ask
those
questions
and
they'll
get.
H
B
B
A
C
B
I'm
not
sure
it
was
last
name
before
that,
but
we
brought
to
you
an
ordinance
that
we
wanted
to
amend
to
actually
three
ordinances,
and
this
is
the
one
that
we
want
to
take
to
council
and
we
have
a
meeting
coming
up
in
a
couple
weeks
that
oh
no,
this
coming
this
coming
council
meeting
will
be
on
there.
So
we
wanted
to.
I
guess
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
say
that
the
committee
got
their
blessing.
B
It
shows
the
reason
I
wanted
to
show
it
to
you
in
an
ordinance
view,
is
to
show
that
the
the
what
the
ideas
you
came
up
with
actually
go
into
our
laws
and
in
in
the
city,
so
you're
very,
very
important
to
how
we
operate.
She
can
guide
you
through
this.
Basically,
what
I
wanted
to
show
you
was
not
not
just
the
numbers
you
came
up
with,
but
to
also
contrast
and
compare
to
the
other
ordinances
that
we
have
for
the
other
parking
violations.
D
D
D
So
this
fines
that
we're
gonna
take
two
counts
on
monday
for
the
oversized
vehicle,
it's
gonna
be
a
hundred
and
and
that's
the
highest
for
a
commercial
for
a
commercial
vehicle.
Then
we're
going
to
go
to
commercial
vehicle
parking
in
a
residential
area,
a
hundred
dollars
and
then
for
the
second
offense
two
hundred
dollars,
and
then
it's
gonna
be
towing
the
commercial
vehicle
more
than
ten
thousand
pounds,
no
parking
no
permit
in
and
parking
on
on
any
street.
E
B
I
just
want
that
that
that
wasn't
one
of
the
ordinances
that
we
looked
at,
we
didn't
talk
about
those
right.
However.
However,
we
just
brought
you
to
me
the
the
ones
that
the
ones
that
we're
having
the
most
trouble
with
right
now,
okay,
but
we
do
intend
to
come
back
to
some
of
the
other
ones
a
little
bit
at
a
time.
We
don't
want
to
overwhelm
the
committee
or
council,
but
we
do
we
do
feel
we
have
other
ones
we
need
to
address.
B
For
instance,
I
think
we
mentioned
last
time
that
we
have
a
lot
of
unpaid
tickets
there.
There
really
wasn't
a
whole
lot
of
motivation
for
anybody
to
pay.
So
that's,
what's
I
want
to
incorporate
that
is
not
just
you.
You
pay
one
fine,
another
fine,
and
then
you
that's
for
perpetuity.
You
never
pay
any
more
interest
fees
or
anything.
We
have
to
come
up
with
some
ideas
on
that
right,
okay
and
then
some
of
these
part,
for
instance,
parking
obstructing
traffic.
Are
you
up
there?
B
Can
you
go
to
I'm
sure
everyone
here
has
been
driving
on
the
street
where
someone
just
parks
the
middle
of
the
street,
because
they're
going
to
run
in
and
get
something?
Well,
that's
very
unsafe,
and
it's
very
you
know
something.
What
you
can't
do
is
just
park
your
car
into
the
street
for
five
minutes,
ten
minutes,
whatever
the
case
may
be
so
the
parking
the
for
that
is
like
25
30,
remember,
right.
D
E
H
F
G
G
B
B
B
A
B
Fine,
for
instance,
that
we
have
a
lot
a
lot
just
this
morning.
I
asked
him
a
second
officer.
Someone
will
take
a
tractor,
you
know
from
a
semi
and
they'll
park
it
on
the
street
on
their
driveway
or
even
a
vacant
piece
of
land.
You
are
not
allowed
to
be
in
a
residential
area
and
there's
reasons
for
that
is
obviously
safe.
Safety
right
it
tears
up
the
streets
more
than
cars.
Do
so
there's
a
lot
of
different
reasons.
E
B
And
one
of
the
reasons
we
haven't
been
too
aggressive
with
that
is
we
realize
that
there
isn't
a
whole
lot
of
parking
and
that
so
we're
trying
to
get
them
when
we
first
start
enforcing
these
things,
we
give
a
lot
of
warnings,
that's
what
we
did
when
we
started
going
into
the
neighborhoods.
We
gave
a
lot
of
warnings
and
we
still
do
if
we're
not
trying
to
make
money
for
the
city
we're
trying
to
get
enforcement
and
safety.
G
E
B
Parking
trailers,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
we
haven't,
looked
into
to
see
if
oversized
vehicles
are
a
problem
or
not.
So
we
will
look
into
that.
Okay,
our
my
intent.
Our
intent
is
to
look
at
all
these
and
see
which
ones
need
to
be
changed.
How
how
we
enforce
it.
The
wording,
the
fine
and
if
we
need
to
bring
others
into
right,
okay
into
the
mix.
A
D
E
B
B
E
A
B
B
B
B
B
Okay,
try
this
how's
that
great,
that
better!
Yes,
sir
okay,
so
this
is
our
mission,
it's
changed
a
little
bit
since
then,
but
basically,
what
it
comes
down
to
is
we
want
to
move
people
and
we
want
to
do
it
as
safe
as
possible.
So
there
was
back
in
2018
same
question.
Is
why
can't
we
put
it
back
to
two
lanes
in
each
direction
at
the
time
it
was
converted
to
just
two
lanes,
south
one
thing
going
north
and
there
was
a
continuous
left
turn
put
in.
B
There
was
a
petition
at
that
time.
I
was
before
my
time,
but
that's
what
I
was
told
was
the
the
impetus
to
to
have
this
presentation
done
and
presented
to.
Council
first
is
that
they
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
original
to
the
original
configuration
which
remains
in
this
direction,
and
our
the
traffic
department
came
up
with
that.
The
traffic
hadn't
gone
down.
That's
something
I
want
to
show
you.
B
B
There
was
an
on
a
petition
to
change
partly
back
to
it,
and
basically
the
response
that
we
have
is
what
we
continue
doing
now
is
that
we
need
to
let
data
drive
our
decisions,
not
one
person's
perception
of
what's
going
on,
and
that's
something
we're
trying
to
do
is
take
more
a
lot
more
traffic
accounts
than
we
used
to
to
go
out
and
look
at
things.
Not
just
say
you
know
somebody
wants
this
done.
B
B
Just
to
show
that,
as
city
traffic
director,
I
am
allowed
and
mandated
by
our
own
ordinances
to
to
make
those
kind
of
decisions.
There
is
a
p
after
my
name,
mr
play
got
the
same
thing.
He
understands
the
ethics
behind
that
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do.
There's
nothing
about
this.
It's
grandstanding,
it's
not
self-serving.
B
You're
you're
part
of
all
this,
and
this
is
your
your
mandate.
I
think
we've
looked
at
it
maybe
a
few
months
ago.
What
the
mandate
of
this
commission
is.
Basically
it's
to
help
us
in
to
look
at
to
look
at
problems
in
the
city,
to
ways
to
improve,
to
advise
the
traffic
department
and,
more
importantly,
advice
council
on
those
ideas
to
bring
them
up
to
provide
a
safer
and
more
efficient
transportation
network
in
our
city.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
do?
B
Okay,
so
this
this
is
where
we
get
into
the
actual
project.
We
at
the
time
they
restrict
four
lanes.
There
was
two
coins
south
sea
going
north.
There
were
no
left
turn
lanes
at
the
intersections
okay,
so
the
adt
was
less
than
25
000,
and
there
is
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
research
these
days
that
road
dies.
Basically
road
diets.
Is
you
take
four
lanes
just
put
one
lane
in
each
direction
and
then
you
put
a
left
turn
in
the
middle.
B
The
thinking
is,
when
you
have
two
lanes
going
north
and
to
south
that
people
are
turning
left
out
of
the
leftmost
one
going
north
and
left
most
one,
so
you're
kind
of
killing
two
lanes
in
that,
and
then
people
don't
expect
people
other
people
stopping,
and
so
it's
a
lot
of
rear
end
accidents
a
lot
now
you
got
to
cross
more
territory,
as
you
turn
left.
So
there's
a
lot
of
thinking
why
that
works
right.
B
B
There's
been
some
a
call
to
try
and
see
if
we
can
fit
a
roundabout
in
there
drink
the
traffic
still
out,
but
that's
something
we're
still
contemplating
and
obviously
the
fun.
If
the
funds
are
available,
that's
two
things:
we've
got
to
look
at
as
you
work
your
way
north
you
have.
Actually
let
me
see
if
I
can
well
I'll
bring
it
up
later.
You
work
your
way
north.
You
you,
you
have
bustamante
the
next
one.
You
have
calton,
you
have
a
traffic
signal
there
you
have
hillside.
B
Now
we
have
a
samoa
thomas
on
the
north
side
and
then
jacoman
and
then
beyond
that
we
have
university
right.
Okay,
so
these
are
the
funds
that
were
expended
back
then
and
putting
all
this
traffic.
So
traffic
signal
is
an
expensive
proposition.
I
mean
it's
not
the
most
expensive
thing
in
the
world
like
a
a
road,
but
it
does
require
about
200
000
or
so
the
design
construction
and
then
that
doesn't
even
accounting
for
the
long-term
maintenance
of
it.
B
I
mean
the
traffic
poles,
don't
last
forever
and
there's
a
computer
running
all
this
and
that
doesn't
last
forever.
So
there's
a
traffic
signal
when
we
take
it
on,
we
have
to
factor
in
the
maintenance
in
long
term.
You
know
we
have
to
have
technicians
that
are
trained
to
work
on
those
things
and
etc.
B
B
Well,
let
me
not
go
there
I'll
get
in
the
second
part
point
out
I'll
bring
it
up
to
you.
Okay,
it
was
made
safer,
there's
a
lot
of
accidents
and
I'll
show
you
those
those
numbers
in
a
minute.
Travel
time
has
actually
improved.
There's
been
times,
I
drive
it
and
it
makes
a
little
bit
safer
because
sometimes
there's
somebody
going
30
miles
an
hour
at
the
speed
limit
in
front
of
you
and
you
can
zip
around
them.
So
it's
it's
lowered
speeds.
B
Our
traffic
is
a
lot
better
control.
Because
of
that
you
know
the
lane
is,
there
are
people
zip,
you
know
zipping
in
one
lane
and
out
and
zigging
is
acting
their
way
through
bartlett?
Okay,
let
me
see
okay,
let
me
let
me
turn
this
one
off
and
I'll
show
you.
These
are
the
numbers
that
were
presented
back
to
the
council
back
in
2018
2018.
So
let
me
show
you
the
new
numbers
we
have
those
here.
B
B
There's
I'm
going
to
show
you
each
intersection
is
about
four
or
five.
There
is
one
constant
if
you
see
the
red
numbers
in
the
back,
those
are
the
total
numbers
for
that
year
and
then
what
the
blue
numbers
represent
is
are
the
crashes
accidents
at
that
particular
intersection.
For
instance,
in
2015
at
bustamante
there
was
a
total
of
48
accidents.
That's
what
this
number
appears
showing
out
of
those
48
18
of
them
happened
at
bustamante.
B
B
But,
as
you
can
see,
the
total
number
of
accidents
that
right
here
where
my
cursor
is
moving.
Yes,
sir,
that's
what
that's
where
the
work
was
done.
So
since
18,
we
went
down
from
30
total
for
the
whole
corridor
and
went
down
to
20
and
19.,
so
we've
kind
of
stabilized
at
about
20
accidents
and
we've
had
nine
this
year.
So
if
you
kind
of
double
that
for
the
rest
of
the
year,
we're
probably
at
20
right
compared
to
48
back
in
2015.,
so
we're
less
than
half
of
the
accidents.
B
B
Green
okay,
the
next
one
we
want
to
show
you
is
hillside,
same
trend.
There
was
a
high
of
15
in
2017,
it
went
nine
and
one
two
and
one
thomas
avenue.
This
is
close
to
our
office
where
it
comes
in
the
truck
route
matches
it
with
gail
same
thing,
numbers
are
lower
and
this
is
all
the
way
to
in
the
room.
B
But
if
I
flew
through
that
too
fast,
let
me
know
I
can
go
back
to
these
lights.
Okay.
What
I
did
want
to
show
you.
This
is
the
concept
I
didn't
want
to
get
too
far
ahead
of
the
game.
It's
called
a
yellow
trap.
I
think
I've
mentioned
that
before,
but
that
that's
the
situation
we
had.
Let
me
zoom
in
real
real
quick
here.
B
This
is
what
bartlett
used
to
look
like,
okay
and
well
without
the
left
turn
lane.
Obviously,
what
happens
there
is
that
when
you
have
two
lanes
going
north
two
lanes
coming
south
okay,
you
have
to
turn
the
light
off.
For
somebody
to
make
left
turn
left
turns.
Okay,
what
you
do
is
the
people
coming
south.
B
You
turn
that
one
off,
but
you
still
have
the
left,
turn
signal
on
that
with
it,
with
a
with
a
light
on
and
the
people
on
the
north
keep
going
now
well,
the
person
going
south
he's
got
a
green
green
ball
there
and
he
doesn't
know
when,
if
it
shut
off
for
the
other
people,
not
so
he
gets
a
yellow,
but
the
other
people
are
still
moving.
He
gets
a
yellow
and
what
were
we
taught
in
back
in
the
days
of
defensive
driving
in
school?
When
you
get
it
yellow?
B
That's
when
you
turn
right
punch
it,
but
the
fact
is
going
north
haven't
been
given
a
red
right.
So
that's
what
the
yellow
trap
is.
So
that's
the
reason
you
see
a
lot
of
the
intersection
accidents
having
gone
down
quite
a
bit
because
that's
the
situation
that
we
had
caused.
So
when
we
put
all
these
traffic
signals
up,
bustamante,
calton
and
hillside
jackman,
we
got
rid
of
the
yellow
trap.
B
So
is
that
the
preferred
way
of
doing
it?
No,
the
preferred
way
would
have
been
go
out
and
buy
more
right
away
and
get
me
another
line
laying
in
the
middle
but
due
to
budget
budget
right
away
constraints.
Whatever
the
case
may
be,
this
was
done
at
the
time
to
for
safety
purposes.
You
know
if,
if
we
try
to
maybe
wait
for
a
cip
to
get
some
money
for
right
away,
it
could
have
taken
years.
So,
as
you
saw
48
accidents,
it's
not
nothing
to
sneeze
at
no.
So
especially
when
we're
down
to
20..
B
B
B
I
When
we
were
putting
together
the
viva
la
master
plan,
I
was
part
of
the
meetings
and
a
lot
of
people.
Think,
and-
and
I
know
this
from
those
meetings
that
two
lanes
each
wear
faster.
Actually,
your
efficiency-
and
you
said
it
already-
your
efficiency
is-
is
much
better.
I
mean
I'm.
This
is
not
the
first
time.
I've
heard
it
and
it's
true
it's
great.
It's
smart.
B
B
B
E
B
E
A
B
May
I
say
something
just
real
quick.
Yes,
sir,
we
didn't
put
any
agenda
items
for
open
discussion.
I
did
talk
to
our
legal
team
just
to
make
sure
we,
you
know
we're
subjected
to
the
texas
human
beings
act.
We
can
have
a
brief
discussion
on
these
items.
No
actions,
no,
not
too
much
detail
just
so
that
we
can
bring
them
up
and
then
we
can
put
them
on
the
next
job.
Absolutely
yes,
yes,.
E
E
So
so
that
right,
there
is
actually
just
about
a
block
away
from
where
the
entrance
is
into
these.
These
two
businesses
and
there's
multiple
bits
that
are
getting
blocked.
So
abf
is
one
of
the
fewest
teamster
carriers
that
we
they
paid
their
drivers
really
well
and
for
them
to
be
stuck
in
that
line
for
hours
on
end
where
they
can't
turn
in.
So
what
he
came
to
me
is
that
okay,
I'll
read
the
email,
real
quick
from
one
of
them.
It
says
as
part
of
the
transportation
and
traffic
safety
advisory
committee.
E
Can
you
see
what
options
we
have
when
it
comes
to
controlling
the
traffic
at
the
entrance
to
our
facility?
As
you
are
aware,
our
entrance
is
right
on
the
part
of
mines,
road
where
the
traffic
comes
to
a
halt.
This
makes
it
real
difficult
for
our
drivers
to
go
in
and
out
of
our
yard
and
also
makes
it
difficult
for
employees
to
go
in
and
out
of
new
york.
If
we
put
a
sign,
this
is
what
I'm
getting
at.
E
If
this,
if
it's
possible
for
them
to
put
a
sign
that
says,
please
do
not
block
entrance
and
is
that
an
enforceable
thing
that
somebody
can
take
out
and
the
city
can
look
at
if
they
go
to
the
expense
and
put
alto
in
spanish
and
english.
Stop.
You
know,
and
it's
about
a
good
25
30
foot
where
the
trigger's
blowing
it
out.