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VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE 091421
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I'd
like
to
make
an
announcement,
sir,
it's
a
last
meeting.
We
had
a
item
on
the
agenda
pertaining
to
the
wbca,
mr
cebov,
for
the
veterans
at
the
parade.
I
spoke
with
wbc
members
and
they
are
in
favor
of
doing
what
we've
requested,
bringing
up
the
veterans
instead
of
being
scattered
throughout.
We
will
be
behind
the
dignitaries
and
politicians
we'll
be
after
them,
as
requested
in
order.
Well,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
bringing
it
up.
Mr
sawyer.
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Right
good
morning
after
garcia
for
the
record
former
city
employee,
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear.
I
don't
work
for
the
city,
so
this
is
just
after
we'll
see
a
private
residence,
a
private
owner
here,
also
just
for
the
committee
six,
I
know
most
of
you
all-
I'm
a
retired
military
major
from
the
army,
so
just
also
just
kind
of
putting
that
out
there
also
so
that
there's
some
understanding
of
that.
I
am
a
veteran
myself.
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To
consider,
I
know
when,
when
I
recommended
to
to
to
city
manager
and
to
staff
and
to
management
and
to
council
the
composition
of
the
board,
it
was
to
have
the
entities
be
represented
because
you
all
are
the
representatives
of
the
majority
of
the
veterans
in
the
community.
So
I
hope
that
you
know
that
composition
helps
out
in
the
decision
making
for
veteran
issues
as
a
whole,
because
this
is
the
majority
of
the
representatives
of
the
entire
community
that
we.
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So
I
just
want
to
comment
on
one
major
issue
which
I
think
we
need
to
start
bringing
back
up
to
the
table,
and
I
know
it
was
very
just
divisive.
It
was
very
conflictive,
it
was
very
you
know.
You
know
there
was
a
lot
of
issues
with
it,
which
is
the
veteran
piece
yeah
and
I'm
not
on
any
side
of
any
any
site,
location
or
anything
with
the
veterans
museum.
But
I
am
concerned
about
an
abandoned
building.
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In
fact,
in
my
personal
opinion,
I
think
both
are
good
sites
and
they
they
both
have
different
parts
that
you
know
you
can
combine
and
grow
together,
but
I
really
think
we
need
to
move
on
all
these
empty
buildings.
The
city
just
passed
an
abandoned
building,
ordinance
to
site
property
owners
for
having
abandoned
buildings
in
the
city,
isn't
even
being
a
good
manager
of
their
own
properties
and
has
them
abandoned
and
dilapidated,
and
that
particular
structure
I
mean
has
vacant
is
vacant
and
it's
got
homeless
in
the
back.
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It's
kind
of
ridiculous
that
you
know
that
site
is
so
ugly
and
nasty,
and
you
you
got
all
these
private
investors
doing.
You
know
investment
on
interview
and
you
know,
and
you
got
nightlife
and
you
got
young
ladies
and
young
men
going
out
there
at
night
and
they're
tripping
and
there's
people
out
there
there's
homeless,
and
you
know
vagrants.
You
know
out
there,
so
I
mean
we
have
we're
not
making
use
of
the
property,
and
I
I
just
need
I.
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I
would
like
this
committee
to
make
a
hopefully
a
supportive
decision
for
one
of
the
sites.
So
that
way
the
city
county
can
move
on
whether
they're
going
to
do
something
with
it
or
not,
and
whether
it's
a
museum
or
not.
I
just
care
about
the
preservation
of
the
building
and
the
availability
of
the
parking
struck,
parking
facilities
there
for
all
those
people
that
come
downtown
to
come
to
to
the
entertainment
area.
That's
developing,
I
know
you
all
probably
have
not.
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You
know
it's
a
much
younger
crowd,
but
you
should
check
it
out
one
night
on
a
friday
or
saturday
night
it
gets
packed
and
there's
young
ladies
walking
from
blocks
away
throughout
that
area.
It's
very
dark,
but
it's
just
an
entertainment
area
as
safe
as
we
think
it
might
be.
You
know
you
never
know
you
know,
but
that
building
is
dilapidated.
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It's
empty.
It's
a
fire
hazard.
One
of
my
priorities
when
I
was
in
building
department
back
then
was
and
the
fire
marshal
knows
it
is
these
dilapidated
structures
are
the
most
dangerous
thing
out
there
for
the
firemen
and
I'm
very
surprised
that
they're
not
tackling
this
as
one
of
their
top
priorities.
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So
that's
what
I
got
to
say,
chairman
and
you
know.
I
hope
that
the
committee
moves
forward
with
this
topic
as
a
single
item
topic
on
the
agenda
in
the
future,
because
I
think
it's
with
the
current
events
that
just
happened.
I
think
it's
not
it's.
It's
probably
the
best
time
to
start
discussing
it
again
to
be
able
to
honor
those
veterans
that
have
served
like
ourselves
and
and
those
that
have
you
know
you
know
done
the
ultimate
sacrifice,
so
we
can
remember
them
and
have
a
place
to
remember
them.
Also.
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Remark
on
that
it
would
be.
I
agree
it's
for
the
record.
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
sir
ma'am,
maybe
if
you're
thinking
of
a
table,
maybe
we're
all
together
we're
at
the
same
level
that
could
work
too.
I
just
don't
know
if
there's
a
city
chamber
office
or
somewhere,
where
there's
a
big
conference
table
and
we
can
all
sit
at
the
same
level.
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A
That's
one
of
the
major
issues.
You
know
that
so
that
the
meeting
now
can
be
recorded,
and
this
has
all
the
the
capabilities
of
being
able
to
do
that.
However,
I
do
feel
that
there
is
a
separation
between
us
and
and
like
we
spoke
at
the
last
meeting,
that
you
know
everybody
can
make
up
to
make
a
motion
and
second
and
then
it's
involved.
Are
you
seeing
11
primary
11
votes?
Man
correct.
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D
Mr
chairman,
just
one
small
comment,
councilman
pettis
can
can
probably
guess
certainly
agree
with
this
there's
plenty
of
other
facilities.
The
city's
made
a
lot
of
efforts
to
modernize,
while
I
was
there
to
have
recording
facilities
and
a
lot
of
other
bigger
conference
rooms
that
can
facilitate
this.
This.
These
meetings
that
you
might
want
to
just
want
to
consider
some
of
the
other
ones.
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D
A
We
have
tried
to
do
this
in
the
past
and
it's
never
really
worked.
The
way
we
wanted
to
this
is
at
the
beginnings
of
working
to
accomplish
what
we
need
to
accomplish,
but
we
do
need
to
be
in
the
same
level.
I
I
do.
I
do
feel
uncomfortable
being
up
here
to
be
very
honest,
because
that's
not
what
it's
meant
to
be.
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A
The
building
of
the
pavilion
all
of
this
was
done
by
a
group
of
25
to
30
veterans
that
volunteered
to
to
get
together,
no
mandates,
no
organization.
They
were
just
a
group
of
warriors
trying
to
find
a
place
for
a
final
resting
place
for
red
veterans
most,
if
not
all,
of
the
veterans
that
have
been
meeting
for
this.
A
This
group
has
done
an
outstanding
job
in
being
able
to
do
that,
they
were
able
to
to
build
a
pavilion
and,
as
you
saw
it
or
have
seen
it
it's
a
very
nice
place.
They
were
able
to
find
more
space
and
I'm
not
going
to
name
any
names
because
I
don't
know
all
of
them,
and
I
don't
want
to
miss
anybody.
But
there
was
a
lot
of
good
work
done,
and
I
think
that
this
should
be
left
to
that
group
to
decide
what's
happening
at
the
cemetery.
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I
believe
that
it's
an
appropriate
name,
because
we
don't
want
to
identify
one
single
individual
family
military
branch.
I
think
it
belongs
to
all
of
us.
It
was
also
even
the
people
who
are
not
in
the
military,
because
it
is
in
the
city,
cemetery
and
it's
a
pavilion
that
is
extremely
nice,
and
I
believe
that
that
name
should
should
be
kept,
because
I
think
it
will
cover
everybody
and
everybody's
needs,
and
I
would
hope
that
the
young
warriors
that
are
here
could
understand
that
we,
as
mostly
vietnam,
veterans
and
korean
veterans.
A
You
know
we
are
looking
to
make
sure
that
our
families
do
not
have
to
worry
about
when
we
pass
on
where
we're
going
to
be
buried.
What's
going
to
happen,
and
those
are
the
kind
of
conversations
that
are
going
on
right
now
and
I
believe
that
this
group
has
done
a
tremendous
tremendous
job,
and
I
feel
that
we
should
just
keep
that
name
that
was
bestowed
on
by
this
particular
group.
Some
time
back
so
I'll,
open
it
up
to
the
public
or
some
veterans
through
for
any
discussion.
K
K
When
you
pass
away
sir
you're
going
to
go
through
there,
when
I
pass
away
I'm
going
to
go
through
there
and
the
way
I
see
all
heroes,
all
veterans
are
going
to
pass
through
there
for
myself,
and
I
already
spoke
to
commander
salazar
and
we're
in
agreement
and
another
other
veterans
either.
I
spoke
to
sir
the
proper
way
it's
hebrews
hall
and
keep
it
as
heroes
off,
because
it's
not
about
afghanistan
veterans.
It's
not
about
iraq
veterans,
it's
not
about
vietnam
veterans,
it's
not
about
korean
war
veterans.
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A
Thank
you,
mrs.
Let
me
just
say
also
that
this
particular
pavilion
is
situated
in
the
city
cemetery
veterans
section,
but
there's
other
citizens
of
la
redo.
That
and
believe
me
all
of
us
have
here
you
know
so,
while
it
is
primarily
to
honor
the
veterans,
I
mean
there's
somebody
else,
that's
be
buried
in
that
cemetery.
That's
not
in
the
veterans
section
that
they
also
have
heroes.
I
mean
little
girls
and
little
boys.
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J
And
now
excuse
me
in
respect
to
mr
kejano,
as
nathan
mentioned
in
that
he
that
he
has
intentions
of
getting
cremated
and
thanking
john
orfila
for
the
tremendous
work
that
he's
done.
I
know
that
some
of
the
some
of
our
veterans
that
were
involved
in
in
in
the
in
the
in
the
improvements
of
the
cemetery
and
it
really
became
a
reality
when
general
fila
took
over
david
paredes,
is
a
cemetery
director
there.
She
has
done
a
tremendous
job
together
with
john
rafila.
J
At
that
point,
there
was
no
columbariums
at
the
at
the
veterans
cemetery,
so
I
had
done
some
research
on
it
and
each
golden
barium
was
running
nine
thousand
dollars
delivered
to
laredo,
fov,
laredo,
and
so
at
that
particular
meeting.
Also
city
council
approved
to
to
sponsor
nine
thousand
dollars
for
the
for
the
purchase
of
one
columbarium
from
there.
I
went
to
to
the
county
and
they
also
agreed
to
pay
to
put
up
nine
thousand
dollars
for
a
second
columbarium.
J
It
just
happened
that
that
salinas
trust
fund.
What's
your
thing,
fernando
yeah,
he
was
at
one
of
the
meetings
and
he
said
you
know
what
he
said:
I'll
donate
another
nine
thousand
dollars,
and
that
is
a
reason
that
we
have
three
column
variables
in
rigo
right
now.
Two
of
our
two
of
our
color
variables
are
already
full
we're
starting
on
the
third
one.
J
This
column
variable
has
48
niches,
okay
and
those
niches
will
accommodate
two
five
by
five
urns,
so
husband
and
wife
can
go
in
there
and
so
right
now,
I'm
working
on
getting
the
the
purchase
price
of
two
more
column
variants.
But
this
time
I'm
going
to
go
with
a
hundred
niches
on
each
one
that
will
give
us
another
an
extra
200
niches
and
we
already
have
a
space
reserved
to
place.
J
A
Thank
you.
Congratulations
to
expound
a
little
bit
more
on
that
at
the
last
meeting
that
this
group
of
veterans
that
we
met
there
was
a
discussion
about
building
a
cover
over
those
column
variables,
so
that
can
protect
it
even
more
so
there
are
generally
doing
great
work
so
anyway,
just
to
continue
with
the
agenda
and
I'm
sorry
about
my
phone,
but
I
need
the
flashlight.
So
I
can
read
this
thing.
A
K
Good
morning,
mr
chairman
take
care
of
kihan
again
for
the
record.
The
status
on
the
tiny
homes
here
in
laredo
texas
is
the
city
laredo
staff,
the
mayor,
jose
celes,
who
works
for
the
loreto
housing
authority,
also
made
a
trip
to
san
antonio
to
see
the
homes
they're
registered.
They
thought
they
wanted.
They
want,
they
want
more
and
that's
worked
and
that's
what
we're
working
on
chairman
logistically
right
now.
K
They
could
make
any
modifications
adjustments
in
order
to
meet
inspections
with
the
city
building
department.
So
that's
good
we're
doing
it.
Mr
truman,
he
also
said
one
thing
I
always
kept
in
mind:
is
the
cost
the
cost,
the
cost
with
organization
non-profit
organizations
such
as
bridging
the
gap
helping
us
unite
we're
trying
to
bring
the
least
amount?
G
F
G
The
committee,
and
as
far
as
on
that
particular
meeting
it
went
very
well.
I
don't
hit
the
main
point
which
is
they're
willing
to
assist
and
help.
Obviously,
there's
got
to
be
some
mou
to
be
considered
interactive,
but
that
would
probably
come
with
the
help
of
the
city,
the
the
city
and
the
housing
authorities
legal
department
to
kind
of
just
make
sure
we
do
it
right
and
correctly.
A
K
A
I
Oh
hello,
thank
you
for
having
me
again
so
I'm
excited
to
be
here
today
because
he
didn't
do
the
announcement
justice
and
I
told
him
there's
a
big
game.
Changer
now,
when
the
mayor
showed
up
not
only
with
the
director
of
the
radio
housing
authority,
but
several
directors
from
the
radio
housing
out
there.
I
think
he
bought
the
all
of
the
directors
to
san
antonio,
yes
on
engineers,
and
they
they
toured
the
houses
they
inspected.
The
houses
they
were
hands
on.
I
F
I
To
donate
75
homes
to
laredo,
because
he
saw
that
the
mayor
showing
up
in
good
faith
was
the
city
of
laredo
is
interested
in
this
project,
and
so
that's
why
the
announcement
should
have
been
made.
No
I'm
getting
75
homes,
and
let
me
tell
you
so
when
this
happened
we
kind
of
were
taking.
We
were
kind
of
taken
aback
because
we
were
just
happy
with
the
10
homes
they
wanted
to
give
us
prior
to
our
last
conversation
of
me.
Being
here,
you
know:
that's
what
we
were.
I
We
were
expecting
you
know,
so
the
conversation
then
shifts
to
a
bigger
conversation
and
right
now
and
albert
will
talk
about.
We
have
a
everybody.
Each
one
of
us
have
a
duty
commander.
Salazar
can
be
here
so
he'll
talk
about
the
transport
he's
and
albert
sanchez
is
in
charge
of
transport
and
and
lodging
of
these
houses,
temporary,
lodging
and
permanent
lodging
and
making
the
networking
those
you
know
those
resources.
I
My
role
in
this
I
went
ahead
and
stepped
up
and
said,
since
I'm
you
know
connected
with
so
many
non-profit
organizations,
we're
talking
about
funding
and
getting
grants.
So
that's
my
that's
where
I
come
in
the
funding
and
and
connecting
with
laredo
networks,
because
I'm
connected
over
there
and
let
me
tell
you
since
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
buzz
around
this
project.
I
Now,
like
I
said
before
in
the
last
meeting
I
said,
and
I
work
with
non-profit
once
projects
like
this
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
all
want
to
help
our
community.
We
want
to
bless
our
veterans,
our
veterans
come
first,
our
seniors
come
first.
You
know
other
other
organizations
start
jumping
on
okay.
So
what
do
you
need
like?
What?
How
can
we
do
this?
I
You
know
and
we're
very
the
way
that
I
work
and
I
work
with
a
lot
of
politicians
as
well,
we're
very
cautious
on
who
we,
where
we
get
our
resources
where
we
pull
them,
we
need
contracts,
it's
a
lot
of
logistics,
so
definitely
a
game
changer,
but
we
are
everything's.
Looking
to
the
positive,
I
had
a
brief
conversation
with
the
mayor
he's
interested
in
helping
us
in
whatever
capacity
we
can
he's
even
mentioned.
Maybe
there's
a
couple
of
blocks.
I
We
can
level
like
or
there's
maybe
there's
some
land
so
so,
like
I
said
this,
this
conversation
shifted
and
but
it's
an
exciting
conversation
and
he's
pastor
robles
was
very
happy
that
laredo
showed
up,
because
that's
what
happens
with
this
project
and
that's
what's
happened
for
the
past
two
years-
is
that
cities
like
that
that
have
been
offered
this
opportunity
cannot
come
together
and
work
together
for
the
better.
You
know
for
this
project
to
bring
it
on
with.
I
That
being
said,
that's
that's
my
role
in
this
I'm
committed,
so
I'm
actually
coming
in
a
few
weeks
I'll
be
here
stationed
all
week,
just
networking
and
meeting
organizations
and
doing
my
part
in
this
project.
So,
like
I
said,
and
I'm
here
today
for
your
for
your
meeting,
I'm
committed
100,
I
see
how
hard
they
work
and
and
yeah
lorraine
is
my
hometown.
So
I
want
to
help
bless
it.
I
M
Yes,
my
name
is
alberto
sanchez,
we're
working
on
on
transportation
as
far
as
getting
them
here.
My
goal
is
to
get
them
here
in
the
next
three
weeks.
Have
them
here
we're
we're
trying
to
find?
I
know
you
offered
a
place
to
store
them
since
the
game
changed
from
you
know
having
10
to
68.
We
don't
want
to.
M
You
know
I
mean
75.
We
don't
want
to
put
you
in
any
type
of
vine
where
you
know
they
might
not
fit
there
everything.
So
I'm
working
on
trying
to
find
just
in
case
as
a
backup
plan.
You
know
to
store
the
rest
of
them
if
they
don't
fit,
find
a
place
so
that
we
can
store
the
rest
of
the
homes
when
they
get
here.
M
I
I
I
wanted
to
give
some
organizations
so
again
my
my
role
in
this
is
networking,
so
I
work
with
the
red
white
and
blue
organization
and
wounded
warriors
they
when,
when
this
project
does
get
up
and
rolling,
I
think
that
these
kind
of
organizations
are
going
to
be
a
pivotal
part.
I
think
that
involving
the
younger
veterans
also
as
well
to
to
you
know,
step
up
for
the
community
and
their
city
is
going
to
be
vital
and
they
they
gather
them
together.
They
help
paint,
they
help
build
rams.
I
I
mean
they
do
so
much.
I've
seen
them
in
action.
They
help
a
lot
of
cities
around
texas,
they
travel,
so
they
don't
just
they're,
not
just
stationary.
So
I'm
hoping
that
these
are
the
kind
of
organizations
that
we
want
to
team
up
with.
You
know,
in
order
to
get
that,
as
I
said
last
time,
the
the
houses
were
were
built,
our
labor
of
love
and
the
majority
were
volunteers
painted
decorated.
I
You
know,
through
these
organizations,
offering
you
know
couches
and
tvs,
and
you
know
putting
stuff
in
the
homes
for
for
for
our
veterans.
So
I
just
wanted
to
shout
out
to
those
organizations,
because
I
think
that
it's
important,
that
we
work
with
our
with
all
organizations
that
are
veteran
veteran-led.
A
E
E
I
just
wanted
to
add,
mr
chairman,
that
I
actually
have
a
meeting
right
now
at
11,
but
if
there's
any
council
action
that
needs
to
be
taken,
we
have
until
tomorrow
to
put
agenda
items
for
monday's
council
meeting.
So
if
you
need
anything,
I
don't
know
if
mr
jimenez
can
coordinate
with
me.
If
there's
something
that
you
all
need
from
council,
we
could
put
it
on
to
discuss
on
monday.
So.
E
I
E
It
just
depends
on
if
there's
anything
that
you
would
are
requesting
from
council
from
the
city,
then
we
would
have
to
take
action
as
a
as
a
council,
but
if
right
now,
you're
still
putting
everything
together
and
it's
not
ready,
then
we
can
bring
it
back
later
on.
So
if
you
need
something
and
that's
something
that
council
would
have
to
decide,
you
know
just
offering
till
you
know
we
have
until
tomorrow
to
put
on
the
agenda
so.
G
If
maybe
just-
and
I
don't
know
this
would
go
on
city
council,
but
maybe
get
letting
them
know
the
legal
department
if
they
can
kind
of
start
drafting
some,
some,
a
memorandum
of
understanding
or
just
giving
them
the
okay
that
when
we're
ready
and
we
need,
we
need
it
done
to
not
have
to
wait
two
weeks
to
come
back
to
to
city
council.
I
do
not
know
if
that's
something
that
can
be
put
on
there
supported
something
like
that.
But
go
ahead.
That's
your
expertise!
Yes,.
E
No
yeah
that
would
definitely
go
on
council,
the
mou
or
the
you
know,
just
the
agreement,
part
of
it
any.
You
know
if
there's
like
a
piece
of
land
of
the
city
property
that
we
would
be
using
for
this,
I
don't
know
I
have
to
talk
to
the
mayor
about
what
his
stocks
were
on
a
piece
of
property,
but
I
can
go
ahead
and
get
with
the
mayor
later
today
and
about
that
property
and
about
the
mlu
and
see
if
we
need
to
put
it
on
the
agenda.
E
I
I
I
can
come
if
I,
if
I'm
going
to
be
here,
I
would
say
there
was
one
question
from
a
possible
donor:
that's
wanting
to
donate
land
and
this
land
is
actually
in
a
really
good
location.
I
don't
want
to
disclose
any
of
that
information,
but
I
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
questions
was,
and
I
don't
know
I
can't
answer
this.
It
would
be
a
question
for
a
city
is
talking.
He
was
talking
asking
about
taxes
about
property
taxes.
E
If
you
would
like
to
not
have
to
disclose
the
donor,
we
could
talk
about
that
on
the
back
end,
because
I
know
that
once
you
don't
a
lot
of
times,
though
they
will
donate
land
because
it
does
relieve
you
of
your,
like
you
once
you
donated
it,
you
don't
you're
not
responsible
for
paying
anything
anymore.
So,
okay,.
I
A
G
J
On
that
earlier,
no
problem.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
Yes,
on
this
walking
trail,
I'm
working
right
now
with
two
architects
and
they're
they're,
getting
an
aerial
view
of
that
land
that
we
want
to
propose
this
walking
trail
at,
and
it
just
happens
that
this
walk-in
trail
is
so
similar
to
the
outline
of
vietnam.
J
So
what
I'm
requesting
from
them
is
to
to
form
a
walking
trail
in
the
outline
of
vietnam
era
and
to
spot
27
positions
for
27
trees
and
also
along
the
way
name
places
like
natrang,
chulai
central
highlands,
and
you
know
long
time
yeah.
So
you
know:
okay,
all
those
okay,
so
down
here,
cameron,
bay
and
all
those
other
places,
okay,
more
or
less
make
it
a
visual
deal
about
vietnam,
which
would
be
you
know,
I
think,
a
very
good
idea.
Anyway,
I
ran
into
captain
roberto
garcia's
wife.
J
I
said
well,
hopefully,
we
will
first
bring
it
up
with
the
families
of
the
of
the
of
the
of
the
veterans
that
died
in
vietnam
to
see
if
they
want
to
donate
that
tree,
and
if
not,
I
said
we
have
plenty
of
sponsors
that
are
willing
to.
Like
you
mentioned
rocket,
you
also
myself
also
I'm
willing
to
donate
anyway.
This
is
where
we
at
we're
at
right
now
and
hopefully,
like
you
mentioned,
I
don't
know-
maybe
I
can
have
something
by
by
next
council
meeting,
if
not
by
the
following.
J
L
K
K
J
Of
the
of
the
bathrooms
right-
yes,
sir-
and
this
is
what
we
have
proposed-
the
museum
yes-
which
they
knocked
us
down
on-
that,
yes,
sir,
and
and
so
now
the
reason
they
knocked
us
down
on
that
it
was
because
they
said
they
wanted
more
greenery
out
there.
They
didn't
want
to
disturb
the
wildlife.
That's
there.
You
know
whatever
wildlife.
There
is
yes,
sir,
and
and
that
it
would
be
a
bad
idea
to
build
any
kind
of
buildings
there.
J
Okay,
so
my
next
idea
was
to
build
that
walk-in
trail
there
and
let's
say
that
you
have
a
what
is
it
about
four
or
four
feet
or
five
or
five
feet
wide
walking
trail
well
along
that
trail
left
a
tree
with
a
with
a
flash
of
each
veteran
that
died
there,
describing
when
he
got
killed,
how
he
got
and
wish.
I
have
all
that
information
already
yep.
K
K
J
J
And
I
also
commented
on
our
last
meeting
that
I
believe
that,
like
your
organization,
mr
sanchez
korean
war
veterans,
that
your
your
your,
your
representative
from
your
from
your
region
pick
out
a
park
and
name
it
after
you
and
perhaps
recognize
and
honor,
let's
say
iraq,
afghanistan
park
via
korean
war
veterans
park.
You
know
there
are
several
parts
in
that
elo
that
I
believe
that
we
can
name
them
under
the
different
organizations
or
war
or
the
organizations.
You
know
like
iraq,
afghanistan,
korean
war
veterans.
Maybe
we.
A
G
Quick
question:
I
I
think,
if
I'm
understanding
correctly,
what
you're
saying
mr
silva
and
mr
kihano
is:
this
is
to
honor
our
vietnam
fallen
heroes
from
laredo
texas.
Exactly-
and
I
I
think
where
mr
might
be
misunderstanding,
but
I
could
be
mistaken.
It's
it's
not
necessarily
organization.
It's
war
right,
it's
different
era
of
war.
Is
that
what
you
were
trying
to
say
in
that
organization,
all
right.
J
G
A
K
A
A
Yes,
sir,
but
we
do
need
to
stay
with
with
the
agenda
and
and
if
it
can
be
incorporated,
then
maybe
maybe
it
can
happen
because
the
last
item
and
agenda
deals
with
with
your
era
of
the
conflicts
or
wars
and
and
very
appropriately,
I
mean
all
of
us
need
to
be
recognized.
So
as
we
as
it
develops,
maybe
it
can
be
incorporated.
Maybe
not
we
can
discuss
it.
G
Chairman
just
want
to
say
something
to
mr
segovia
you're,
the
committee
chair
of
I'm,
assuming
you're
the
committee
chair
of
of
this
event.
Last
time
we
discussed
this,
I
said
I
would
donate
a
treat.
I
would
like
to
donate
the
tree
that
is
within
my
family's
name
of
fallen
hero
on
behalf
of
of
my
mother-in-law
and
and
her
extended
family
I'd
like
to
buy
that
one.
Okay,
if
you
can
just
earmark
that
one
for
me.
L
K
G
A
Is
discussion
of
possible
action
to
create?
No,
that's,
not
it
discussion
of
possible
action
on
obtaining
a
soldiers
cross
monument
to
honor
all
veterans
at
the
city,
cemetery,
and
it
matters.
This
is
there
too
again
before
we
go
any
further
on
this
I'd
like
to
say
a
few
words
on
this,
and
it
goes
back
to
what
we
started.
A
Hopefully
us
and
everybody
else
that
comes
after
us
and
the
reason
I
say
this
is
because
there
are
several
projects
being
discussed
by
this
group.
We
talked
about
the
column
barriers.
We
talked
about
a
roof
over
over
them
there.
So
there's
talk,
there's
discussion
going
on
about
a
a
gold
star,
family
monument
that
is
really
really
nice,
and
so
there's
expenses
that
are
that
are
coming
in
together,
even
though
I
do
agree
that
a
soldier's
cross
is
very
appropriate
at
that
location.
A
B
I
think
soldiers
cross
is
very
appropriate.
It's
been
the
symbol
of
our
fallen
hero
since
day,
one
the
first
award,
the
first
battle
before
they
had
the
ability
to
transport
the
soldier
back
to
the
united
states.
They
would
bury
and
they
would
put
across
his
rifle
boots
and
helmet
to
mark
the
spot
where
he
was
at
so
they
could
go
later
and
recover
the
remains
and
it
didn't
pertain
to
army
navy
air
force
didn't
pertain
to
a
particular
service
and
it
didn't
pertain
to
a
particular
war.
B
I'm
the
commander
of
the
honor
guards
that
does
the
veterans
funerals
and
I
personally
place
the
rifle
boots
and
a
helmet
to
commemorate
to
memorialize
the
veterans
being
buried,
and
I
have
I
have
gotten
so
many
so
many
comments
that
they've
never
seen
that
before.
I
don't
know
why.
They've
never
seen
it
it's
popular
among
soldiers
from
the
other
wars
and
they're
dying
off
we're
dying
off,
but
the
soldiers
cross
will
remain,
and
I
feel
that
this
is
something
that
will
represent
symbolize
the
service
and
sacrifice
of
our
fallen
heroes.
The
soldiers
crossed
anybody
else.
A
There
is
no
doubt
thomas
charlemagne
is
that
it
is
appropriate
and
it
should
be
there,
and
I
agree
with
you.
I
don't
know
why
it
has
not
been
there
before.
The
problem
is,
is
that
there
is
several
projects
being
done
and
all
of
this
costs
money
and
we
don't
have
a
budget
to
work
with.
I
mean
this
committee
does
not
have
a
budget
to
work
with.
There
are
several
several
items
that
have
been
discussed,
which
approach
that
that
will
take
a
a
fair
amount
of
money.
A
The
columbarius
that
we're
talking
about
we're
talking
about
this
gold
star
family,
member
monument
that
it's
really
a
tremendous
that's
somewhere
around
90
000,
whether
it's
going
to
be
done
or
not.
I
don't
know,
but
there's
several
already
being
discussed
this
being
one
of
them
also,
and
I
think
all
of
them
should
be
discussed
at
the
same
time,
because
otherwise
we
don't
have
any
funds
that
we
can
tap
to
say.
Okay,
we
can
do
this,
but
as
far
as
in
favor
of
doing
it,
yes,
I
agree
with
you.
G
G
G
G
A
More
important
just
to
follow
up
more
important.
He
has
a
budget
yeah
and
he
can
and
budget
here
is
going
to
start
here
in
about
three
weeks
here.
So
the
sooner
we
can
pass
it
on
to
him
and
just
designate
that
that
we
have
proved
this
for
him
to
take
the
lead
on
it
because
he
has
a
budget
and
he
can
put
in
his
budget
for
next
year
and
we
don't
have
a
budget.
So
that's
why
I
think
it's
appropriate.
It's
not
that
I'm
trying
to
say
wait.
J
There's
different
versions
of
it:
yes,
but
the
most
popular
one
is
the
one
with
the
rifle
the
helmet
and
all
this
okay.
So
I
was
gonna
suggest
we
have
an
outstanding
departments
in
our
high
schools,
like
I
believe
mr
pro
is
still
principal
at
merchant
heights.
Yes,
okay,
they
do
an
outstanding
job
when
it
comes
to
creating,
as
they
have
done
already
there
at
the
high
school
okay.
J
I
believe
it
will
give
a
picture
or
an
idea
of
this,
because
it's
actually
a
silhouette.
Okay,
and
if
we
give
this
idea
to
mr
pro
I
bet
he
would
be
delighted
to
work
on
this
project
and
donate
it
to
us.
All
we
have
to
do
is
pay
for
the
materials
okay,
because
he
has
promised
to
do
that
before
with
me.
He
said,
look
whatever
you
guys
need,
let
me
know-
and
I
can
work
with
you
on
whatever
you
need,
because
he's
a
tremendous
supporter
of
veterans.
J
As
a
matter
of
fact,
every
year
he
invites
us
that
he
used
to
invite
our
coalition
on
on
veterans
day
or
a
day
or
two
before
you
know
and
feed
us
you
know
for
for
some.
I
mean
dinner
there
at
the
library,
so
he
is
very
much
into
veterans
and
he
loves
to
build
things
like
that.
It
might
be
an
idea
where
he
could
do
a
tremendous,
beautiful
design
of
this
cross
with
his
people
that
work
there
in
you
know,
arts
and
crafts,
and
all
that.
A
G
The
chairman,
I
just
I
make
a
motion
to
move
forward
with
this
project.
It
seems
to
be
unanimous
that
we
do
want
this
to
happen
and
to
ask
mr
john
orfila
if
he
can
help
us
head
this
project
and
hand
it
over
with
to
him
and
work
as
a
committee
with
him
taking
the
lead
on
this
project.
That
would
be
my
motion.
A
A
N
A
N
Don't
want
to
place
this
item
on
the
agenda
and
I
do
believe
that
this
is
an
expense
that
the
city
can
incur.
I
did
the
research
on
the
monuments
that
are
there
on
veterans,
plaza,
formerly
jarvis
plaza
and
those
were
erected
by
the
city
decades
ago
and
recently,
the
last
recently
the
vietnam
veterans.
N
So
with
the
budget
talk
coming
up
with
the
city,
I
think
that
we
should
ask
the
city
to
set
some
monies
aside
for
this
monument
and
to
work
with
us
as
to
you
know
what
it
would
look
like,
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
grandiose
type
of
monument.
We
can
emulate
the
ones
that
are
already
there,
so
it
will
be
inconsistency.
N
N
I
no
more
than
25
000.
I
I
I
suppose
we
can
put
a
cap
on
that
on
on
the
monument,
but
you
know
the
money.
This
is
the
engraving
that's
going
to
cost,
because
the
block
is
just
a
block
and
I'm
sure
there
has
there's
there
has
to
be
a
a
base
at
the
bottom,
a
foundation
and-
and
that
is
those
covers-
are
by
the
in
the
department
of
public
works.
A
Let
me
before
we
continue.
Let
me
read
the
committee
mission
statement
just
so.
We
know
exactly
what
what
our
job
here
is
to
advise
the
city
council
on
issues
pertaining
to
veterans
and
veterans
programs
that
will
enhance
the
welfare
of
those
laredo
citizens
that
have
served
in
the
armed
forces
and
that's
exactly
what
we're
going
to
do
here.
A
We
are
going
to
advise
the
city
council
that
we
believe
that
that
monument
should
be
erected
honoring,
the
desert,
storm
iraq,
afghanistan,
conflict
or
war
and
from
then
they
can
take
the
lead
and
bring
an
and
an
idea,
and
especially
for
you,
young
warriors
that
that,
were
there
obviously
you're
going
to
have
the
input
as
to
what
what
would
you
like
to
have
there?
Well,
let's
just
make
the
motion
where
we
direct
this
the
city
council
to
establish
a
memorial
there.
Yes,
that's
a
piano
for
us.
J
I
think
it's
very
dis
deserving
that
iraq,
afghanistan,
have
a
a
memorial
there
or
you
know
you
know
honoring
their
their
of
their
people,
because
there's
already
vietnam
there's
korean
war
veterans,
world
war
two
and
the
only
ones
that
are
missing
or
them.
So
I
know
there
is
several
people
in
that
in
daredevil
that
work
with
marvel
and
like
you
said,
the
only
thing
would
be
the
engraving
all
right.
I
don't
think
that's
a
problem.
J
N
C
G
K
Chairman,
I
totally
agree.
I
agree
with
mr
lopez.
Do
we
need
one?
Yes,
yes,
you're
right
and,
like
mr
david
carter
said
there
is
a
desert
storm
right
monument,
so
the
only
one
that
would
be
needed
is
the
iraq
and
afghanistan
right.
So
we
do
an
eat
one
it.
I
don't
know.
If
you
know
chairman
in
september
25th
25th
september
26th,
it's
gold
star,
it's
the
gold
star
month.
That's
our
honor
on
the
25th,
the
vfw.
K
K
There
is
one
and
the
idea
came
from
sanchez
brought
it
to
our
organizations
and
we
ran
with
it
right.
One
thing:
when
mr
lopez,
I
do
not
agree
it's
having
the
city
to
pay
for
it.
I
think
we
should
meet
them
halfway.
If
you
want,
we
can
assist,
we
can
help,
but
at
the
same
time
it's
it's
not
just
about
us
german.
It's
for
the
gold
star
mothers.
We
didn't
ask
for
the
for
the
moneys.
The
moneys
were
donated
right
and
bernie
having
to
burden
the
city.
K
I
I
just
that's
just
my
opinion.
It's
gonna
ours
is
gonna,
get
done.
The
city
did
help
us,
build
the
foundation
they're,
helping
us
right
with
the
monument.
So
we
got
it
done
and
it
got
done.
It's
almost
gonna
be
five
feet
tall
for
three
five
around
there
and
it
was
bought
here
lopey
throughout
the
radar
monument.
All
we
can
do
is
recommend
to
the
city,
yes,
and
that
should
be,
but
would
recommend
not
burning
the
city.
That's
what
we're
not
here
to
and.
A
A
So
so
yes,
you're
you're
right
I
mean
it
can
be
a
private
public
project,
but
right
now
what
we
need
to
do
is
just
sorry
just
start
a
a
potion
or
pass
a
motion
that
they,
we
direct
the
city
to
to
look
into
doing
this,
and
then
all
the
logistics
can
come
together,
whether
it
be
all
city
and
be
all
private
or
a
combination
of
private
public.
I
mean
right
now
what
you
need
to
get
the
ball
going
and
get.
J
A
G
I
think
at
this
moment
in
time
we
should
maybe
just
ask
the
city
to
start
looking
into
creating
this
saving
a
spot
where
we
want
to
have
it
in
jarvis
plaza
and
then
all
the
details
can
be
worked
out
in
a
whole
different
meeting
or
committee,
whether
how
much
is
sponsored
or
not
sponsored,
and
all
that
I
can
form
that
in
a
in
a
motion.
However,
I
know
that
mr
lopez
wants
to
say
a
few
words
yeah.
N
Well,
I
just
I
just
want
to
put
some
things
into
perspective.
The
city
has
to
go
out
there
and
look
and
and
find
a
spot,
because
accordingly,
there's
there
could
be
some
pipes
underneath
there
could
be
something,
so
they
have
to
clear
that
and
they
have
to
say
this
is
the
spot
where
it
can
go.
They
have
to
take
in
consideration
the
weight.
The
dimensions
of
that
so
putting
the
item
and
get
it
going
will
be
the
first
step.
N
G
A
G
A
A
We
have
some
some
warriors
that
are
not
up
to
to
the
discussion
that
are
very,
very
much
involved
right
now.
However,
we
do
need
to
address
it
once
and
for
all.
Yes,
I
think
major
garcia
put
a
lot
of
things
into
perspective
when
he,
when
he
made
the
comments
about
the
the
condition
of
the
building,
and
let
me
just
say
that
the
conditional
building
was
that
way
long
before
it
became
a
potential
spot
for
the
for
the
museum,
but
it
does
need
to
be
taken
care
of.
F
J
F
F
J
C
A
J
A
G
Chairman,
what
we
can
you
do,
try
it
out
as
a
special
meeting
for
this
okay.
For
for
what
we
were
discussing
and
invite
as
many
veterans
as
as
possible,
you
know
they
can
attend
and-
and
I
think
it'll
be
a
good
trial
like
to
just
try
it
out
and
see
if
it
works
out
for
us,
the
the
medium
room
chairman
yeah,
we
can
do
that
sure.
K
G
A
A
Even
even
after
that
time,
if
somebody
comes
in
and
says
you
know,
I
want
to
say
something
I'm
going
to
allow
them
to
do
that.
Yes,
sir,
if
everybody
doesn't
it's
not
enough
in
favor
of
that,
then
I
will
just
step
down,
because
I
think
that
we're
defeating
the
purpose
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
you
say:
well,
you
did
not
sign
up,
so
you
know
you
can't
say
anything,
and
so
why
are
we
having
this
community
meetings?
If
we
cannot
allow
people
to
say
what
they
want
to
say?
I.
G
A
F
G
A
K
K
Speak
up,
that's
the
way,
whether
it's
for
or
against,
but
at
least
have
your
say.
I
mean
that's
what
we
went
for
you
know,
that's
why
we
joined
the
military,
but
at
the
same
time
it's
when
it
comes
down
to
the
vote
that
we
said
it's
the
committee
members.
You
know
that
are
going
to
vote
yes,
but
it's
going
to
come
down
another.
C
A
C
A
Trying
to
improve
the
veterans
in
particular
as
welfare,
but
at
the
same
time
we
hope
to
be
able
to
improve
everybody's
welfare,
the
whole
community
itself,
exactly
yes,
sir.
So
if
we
have
a
person
that
comes
in
here,
because
he
or
she
could
not
get
out
of
work
and
we
already
went
past
the
feeling
of
the
card
to
speak
yeah,
we
don't
allow
him
to
speak.
Then
we're
doing
everybody
in
the
service
and
that's.
G
A
And
this
is
an
ongoing
subject.
That's
been
going
on
for
it
for,
for
a
long
time
when
I
was
a
county
commissioner,
I
said
the
same
thing
have
have
night
meetings.
Changing
meetings
are
long,
we're
never
going
to
get
it
done,
but
my
feelings
on
that
has
never
changed.
As
I've
been
said
on
that,
you
know
that
we
need
to
make
it
open
to
the
public,
make
it
transparent
exactly
and
allow
everybody
to
speak
their
peace.
Yes,
sir,.
C
C
A
N
Sure
for
the
record,
governor
lopez,
I
will
I
will
put
an
item
on
our
for
our
next
meeting,
dealing
with
this
particular
topic,
in
which
I
believe
it
could
be
accomplished
to
include
everyone,
but
it
will
also
include
some
informational
workshops
for
the
people
for
the
citizens
of
laredo.
So
so
that
would
be
my
take
that
we
take
that
in
a
systematic,
chronological
educational
way,
to
approach
this
and
to
solve
this
problem
once
and
for
all,
and
if
it
gets
accepted
it
gets
voted.
It
gets
voted,
you
know,
but
I
think
we
should.
N
A
C
A
J
C
C
J
J
Veterans
and
also
afghani
iraq,
they
also
come
out,
but
so
maybe
next
time
on
our
next
meeting,
we
can
all
say:
yes
we're
going
to
be
out
there,
so
we
can
arrange
ourselves
according
to
a
wall.
You
know
maybe
world
war
ii
veterans
who
wish
to
come
out
korean
war
veterans
via
network
managers,
and
then
you
know
so
that
people
can
identify
the
different
eras.
Yes,
sir,
okay,
thank
you
so.
L
A
And-
and
that
just
goes
to
show
that
some
good
things
are
coming
out
of
this
this
meetings
here
I
mean
we
we're
growing
and
we're
getting
better.
We
we're
learning
as
we
go
and
we'll
take
the
items
as
they
come.
You
know,
and
this
is
one
item
that
needs
to
be
taken,
put
to
bed
already
one
way
or
the
other,
and
and
so
we'll
see
what
happens.
Yes,
sir.
H
There
was
a
period
of
time
when
there
used
to
be
a
recognition
of
a
veteran
at
a
council
meeting.
I
think
it
was.
It
would
take
place
once
a
month.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
I
was
wondering
why
that
was
phased
out,
and
if
we
could
bring
that
back
to
honor,
it
could
be
a
gold
star
mother.
It
could
be
a
veteran
of
any
era
that
that
we
can
recognize
for
their
service
like
we
used
to
do
it,
and
I
I.
F
N
N
I
can
speak
to
that.
The
I
was
I
was
the
guy
behind
that
that
measure
that
push.
I
was
doing
it
for
the
first
three
or
four
three
and
a
half
ago,
and
then
the
city
took
over
and
the
way
they
did
it
is
was
nomination
and
what
we
were
doing
when
I
was
doing
it.
I
was
just
select
somebody
the
problem
that
they're
having
now
is
that
the
public
is
not
they're.