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A
3
meeting
as
soon
as
our
secretary
gets
back
to
his
seat,
we'll
have
a
roll
call
attendance.
C
A
A
And
all
in
favor
say
aye
aye
opposed.
No,
the
minutes
are
approved.
Next
item
on
the
agenda
is
renewals
of
conditional
use
permits.
We
had
four
Harold
Perry
Miller
Automotive
Mike
and
Melissa
Hess
Stephen
and
Don
Whalen.
All
four
have
pay
the
renewal
fee.
A
E
A
No,
they
are
renewed.
Well,
we've
slightly
changed
the
order
of
business.
We
will
do
table
applications
first
and
we
do
have
one
it's
oyster,
catcher,
LLC,
it's
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
vacation
or
vacation
home
and
a
short-term
rental
location,
312
Poplar,
Street,
historic
district
residential.
So
when
someone
come
up,
please
for
the
record,
give
your
name
and
address
and
explain
what
you're
doing
here
I
mean.
What's
your
plans
for
the
place
are.
A
And
I
noticed
you've
renovated
that
property,
and
could
you
explain
to
the
board
in
the
audience.
E
A
E
A
E
A
E
E
A
G
A
Number
one
do
you.
This
is
also
under
category
number
581
and
the
official
schedule
of
uses
number
one.
You'd
agree.
This
isn't
I'll.
Just
summarize
and
I
read
the
whole
thing.
Do
you
agree?
This
is
a
conditional
use
in
accordance
with
the
zoning
ordinance,
Mr
Acosta.
F
Yes,
I
see
it
complementing
it:
tourism
and
Improvement
of
the
downtown
area.
H
I
agree
as
well:
we've
got,
we've
got
another
party,
that's
interested
in
remodeling,
a
a
downtown
home
and
that
that's
a
good
thing.
A
And
the
comprehensive
plan,
obviously
once
is
designed
to
make
Madison
Thrive,
so
I
see
no
problems
there
number
three:
is
this
harmonious
with
the
existing
or
intended
character?
The
general
area
Mr
Acosta.
A
The
general
area
is
residential
and
so
forth.
It's
the
same
thing.
It's
always
been
I
think
that
one's
met,
number
four
hazardous
or
disturbing
to
existing
or
future
neighbor
uses.
Mr
Acosta
I.
F
Think
not
I
mean
this
is
becoming
a
more
and
more
popular
use
of
of
the
homes,
especially
in
the
downtown
area,
so
I
think
it
fits
with
fits
with
the
trends.
H
I
agree
as
well:
I
think
I
think
it.
You
know
it's
not
changing
the
intended
use
of
of
we're
going
to
affect
the
the
neighborhood
so
I
think
all
the
conditions
are.
D
A
A
F
A
H
I
agree
as
well:
I
mean
it's
a
three-bedroom
home
the
the
occupancy
isn't
going
to
change
so
I.
Don't
see
any
reason
to
be
concerned
with
any
of
those.
F
Don't
see
any
exposure
of
public
expanse
for
facilities,
but
it
would
be
complementary
to
the
economic.
H
A
H
Yeah
I
see
no
reason
to
believe
that
there's
going
to
be
any
detriment
to
the
neighborhood.
Do.
A
A
The
biggest
one,
possibly
there
are
two
I-
see
possible
traffic
and
Noise
I
think
the
noise
is
cared
for
in
their
rules
and
excessive
production
of
traffic,
probably
not
so
I
think
that
one's
met
number
eight.
This
is
the
one
not
designed
not
to
create
an
interference
with
other
traffic
Mr
Acosta
I.
F
Don't
really
see
any
issue
with
that
if
this
were
used
as
a
the
full-time
residents,
there'd
be
a
couple
cars
there
anyway,
so
I
don't
see
where
traffic
is
going
to
be
impacted
by
the
use
of
the
for
this
purpose.
H
I
think
it's
just
the
opposite
of
those
things.
I
think
it
will
benefit
and
enhance
those
features.
A
G
D
A
A
A
So
we
will,
for
the
purposes
of
this
meeting,
we'll
first
consider
the
we'll
consider
the
first
application,
which
is
merely
a
guest
home,
a
short-term
rental,
Airbnb
type
thing,
because
I
understand,
there's
not
much
controversy
about
this
and
then,
when
we
consider
the
second
one,
if
anybody
objects
to
the
event
space
or
so
forth,
that'll
be
the
time
to
air
your
concerns
about
that
issue.
And,
of
course,
if
you
have
concerns
about
short-term
rental,
you
will
be
allowed
to
speak
after
the
first
one,
so
I
assume
you're
Miss
Evans.
I
I
That
was
the
property
we
purchased
November,
and
we
would
like
to
ask
permission
a
conditional
use.
Permit
excuse
me
to
allow
for
short-term
rentals
on
that
property.
At
the
very
first
meeting.
I
was
at
I
sent
via
email.
I
did
not
bring
those
hard
copies
tonight
because
they
weren't
requested
the
first
time
of
our
house
rules
and
things
like
the
gentleman
previously
submitted,
but
we
will
make
sure
to
observe
quiet
hours
to
make
sure
that
we
are
operating
with
all
of
the
city
ordinances
on
sound
decibels.
I
Parking
should
not
be
an
issue,
as
this
property
has
its
own
parking
pad
for
two
to
three
cars
and
we're
just
happy
to
have
it.
It's
the
first
time
that
the
property
has
kind
of
been
put
back
with
1229
West
Main
Street
since
1940.
So
we
think
that's
pretty
cool.
A
Okay,
so
just
for
the
record
and
for
people
in
the
audience
this
your
application
came
up
couple
of
months
ago,
I.
A
A
A
We
don't
on
this
board
we're
just
dealing
with
what
city
council
approves
they're
the
lawmakers,
so
she
appeared
before
them
and
they
they
changed
zoning
to
a
more
appropriate
Zoning
for
this
kind
of
a
use,
and
so
now
she
is
reappearing,
and
this
one
is
simply
for
a
vacation
rental
and
a
short-term
rental
and
so
forth,
which
is
allowed
under
it.
Zoning
was
changed
to
to.
A
D
I
Yes,
I
sent
those
over
to
Joe
at
the
very
first
meeting,
when
I
didn't
realize
that
we'd
have
to
have
two
applications
and
I
think
at
that
time
we
were
in.
We
had
not
actually
acquired
the
property
yet,
but
we
were
in
negotiations
and
contractual
agreements
with
the
sellers
of
1328
West
2nd.
F
A
And
refresh
Dallas
leash
part
of
your
rules
were
quiet
times.
I
Yes,
of
course,
we
would
observe
quiet
hours.
I
I
looked
at
with
other
airbnbs
is
10
P.M
to
I.
Think
8
am
we
would
make
sure
that
those
are
followed.
We
feel
that
this
is
going
to
be
very
manageable
for
us,
because
it's
right
behind
our
house
so
we'll
be
able
to
keep
a
really
close
eye
on.
What's
going
on
and
be
very
aware
of,
you
know
anything
that
might
be
a
concern
to
a
neighbor.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
operating
in
a
neighborly
friendly
way.
Also,
you
know
the
fact
that
our
house
is
right
behind
it.
I
We
have
three
little
kids,
so
we'll
be
on
high
alert
all
the
time
on.
What's
going
on
on
that
property,
quiet
hours
will
be
observed,
no
smoking
allowed
honor
in
the
property,
see
what
else
you
know
parking
again
won't
be
an
issue.
I
I
I
Yes,
it's
a
three
bedroom.
We
have
two
queens
and
a
full.
So
there
that's
six,
we're
not
going
to
put
a
I,
don't
want
more
than
six
people
in
there.
So
I'm
not
gonna,
put
like
a
pull
out.
A
F
Yes,
as
with
the
previous
application,
allowing
more
opportunity
for
tourism
and
visitors,.
H
I
do
as
well
I
think
I
think
you
know
with
the
property's
previous
history
kind
of
kind
of
plays
into
that
a
little
bit
as
well.
So.
A
And
that
thing
has
been
there
since
Civil
War
days,
at
least
so
I
think
that
it's
not
going
to
interfere
with
or
change
anything
number.
Four
hazardous
or
disturbing
to
neighboring
uses
Mr
Acosta,
no.
F
H
Yeah
I
agree
as
well:
I
mean
if
it
was
used
as
a
as
a
residence
full-time
residents.
You
know
it
could
be
occupied
by
that
many
people
or
or
more
and
I,
don't
see
that
being
hazardous
or
disturbing
to
the
neighborhood.
A
F
Mean
it's
an
operating
home
at
the
time.
So
if
it's
certainly
no
additional
requirements.
H
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
create
any
any
additional
demands.
A
I,
don't
see
any
demands
for
public
services
and
certainly
won't
be
detrimental
to
the
economic
welfare
of
Madison
number
seven.
This
is
about
detrimental
because
of
traffic
noise,
smoke,
Etc
and
so
forth.
Mr
Acosta,
no.
A
With
small,
no
more
than
three
cars
I,
don't
think
will
make
excess
traffic
and
I
doubt
there
will
be
any
trouble
with
noise.
Those
are
the
relevant
ones.
I
think
that
one's
met
number
eight
not
to
create
an
interference
with
traffic,
Mr
Acosta.
F
No
again
with
the
parking
explained
as
as
it
would
be,
see
no
issue.
H
Yeah
I
mean
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
any
reason
to
believe
that
it's
gonna
interfere
with
with
traffic
or
thoroughfares
Mrs.
H
The
people
are
going
to
try
to
maintain
the
property
and
and
it's
position
in
that
in
that
area,
so
I
don't
see
any
damage
of
anything.
A
And
I
see
no
I,
see
the
preservation
of
historic
property,
I
think
that
one's
met,
but
we've
gone
through
our
findings
of
fact,
I
move.
We
approve
this
conditional
use
permit
for
1328
West,
2nd
Street
for
a
period
of
one
year
on
the
condition
of
submitting
and
adhering
to
the
proposed
rules
and
the
quiet
hours
will
be
maintained
from
10
pm
to
9
A.M.
A
Yes,
well,
that
takes
care
of
the
first
one,
which
was
merely
a
short-term
rental
and
now
we're
going
to
take
up
the
second
part
of
this,
which
is
1229
West
Main
Street,
the
proposed
use
being
a
similar,
short-term
rental
and
an
event
space,
so
Miss
Evans.
Would
you
elaborate
on
the
especially
on
the
event
space?
That
seems
to
be
the
issue
of.
I
Course,
yeah
I'm
Catherine,
Sally,
Evans,
owner
of
1229
West,
Main,
Street
and
1328
West,
2nd
Street.
This
will
now
be
the
fourth
meeting
regarding
1229
I
will
go
ahead
if
it's
okay
and
take
a
couple
of
minutes
and
explain
a
little
bit
more
in
detail
about
what
we
want
to
do
with
1229
and
the
event
space.
Since
it's
been.
G
I
A
few
months
ago,
since
I
went
into
detail
there
so
for
1229,
West
Main
Street,
our
goal
is
to
get
approval
for
a
special
conditional
use.
Permit
excuse
me
for
micro,
weddings
and
we're
thinking
like
Garden
teas
or
history
teas
in
the
backyard.
We
love
our
home
and
it's
history.
We
feel
it's
very
significant
to
Madison's
historical
Roots.
I
We
will
abide
by
the
city
ordinances.
This
is
our
family
home,
we're
living
there
with
our
three
children.
So
we
want
to
be
respectful
and
courteous
to
ourselves
and
our
own
family
life
and
also
the
neighbors
around
us
sound
and
noise
decibels
as
far
as
any
music
or
crowd
noise.
For
that
matter,
we
will
be
monitoring
and
stay
within
the
required
decibels.
I
know
that
there's
different
hours
on
what
decibels
are
supposed
to
be
met,
so
we
will
be
there
on
site
and
have
a
decibel
meter
and
be
observing
those.
I
We
will
also
observe
quiet
hours
with
any
event.
As
far
as
the
10
P.M
to
9
A.M,
we
currently
see
as
far
as
hours
in
operating
would
go.
We
currently
see
this
as
offering
Events,
maybe
two
weekends,
a
month,
possibly
a
Saturday
evening
with
a
strict
end
time
and
quiet
hours
enforced
and
maybe
a
Sunday
afternoon
again.
This
is
our
family
home.
We
don't
want
this.
Every
weekend,
I
want
my
kids
to
be
able
to
go
outside
and
play
parking.
We
have
our
own
off
street
parking
we've
measured
out.
I
I
have
been
in
talks
with
the
Elks.
A
member
of
the
Elks
I
should
get
official
permission
toward
the
end
of
the
week,
they're
doing
some
stuff
with
delegating
positions
right
now,
but
they
don't
see
a
problem
with
allowing
five
to
ten
excess
parking
spaces
on
that
lot.
I
think
that's
all
owned
by
the
Elks
and
the
City
for
public
parking.
I
As
far
as
if
this
gets
approved,
our
advertisement
and
branding
for
our
business
for
events
will
ensure
we
will
ensure
and
promote
that
we
are
a
very
small
venue,
family
friendly
venue.
We
will
communicate
this
up
front
prior
to
bookings
to
ensure
that
we
attract
the
guests
that
fit
our
expectations.
We're
not
I,
don't
want
anything
to
do
with
like
a
late
night
party
scene
or
loud
dance
crowds.
We
honestly
see
this
as
a
very
small,
what's
considered
now:
micro
wedding
event,
space
or
garden
tees,
the
business
okay.
I
So
here
we
go
our.
We
feel
we
have
a
really
good
business
track
record.
We
started
our
ice
cream
shops
in
2015.
I
and
in
those
eight
years
we
have
operated
in
six
different
cities
at
one
time,
I
think
for
three
years
we
had
shops
in
four
different
cities,
and
these
were
in
a
variety
of
places,
residential
and
Commercial.
We
had
a
shop
in
Rochester
Indiana
for
six
years,
that
literally
butted
up
against
lake
houses,
very
nice
Lake
homes,
and
we
never
once
had
a
single
complaint
a
handful
of
times
through
the
season.
We
would
have
some
acoustic
music,
very
family
friendly.
I
I
Also
I'd
like
to
mention
you
know
where
we
are
there
we're
on
site.
We
will
be
there
for
any
event
and
monitoring
the
noise
and,
what's
going
on
so
that
we
make
sure
our
expectations
and
the
expectations
of
our
neighbors
are
being
met
with
courtesy.
So
that's
that
would
be
our
plan.
Very
small
events
is
what
we
would
have
in
mind.
What.
I
I
think
that
will
also
depend
on
I
have
to
go.
I
will
have
to
go
through
the
fire
marshal
I
assume,
because
I've
had
to
do
that
with
any
time
we've
had
an
ice
cream
or
ice
cream
business.
I
I
My
I
will
also
communicate
ahead
of
time
that
we
only
have
so
many
parking
spaces
and
encourage
guests
to
carpool
over
I
would
assume
quite
a
few
people
will
be
staying.
You
know
at
other
establishments
in
town,
whether
it
be
the
Fairfield
or
other
airbnbs
and
whatnot,
and
communicate
that
ahead
of
time.
I
Yeah,
we
I
mean
I'm
kind
of
basing
a
lot
of
this
on
WE
hosted.
We
we
did
our
own
wedding
at
our
property
when
we
lived
in
Rochester
Indiana
and
we
had
a
very
small
backyard
that
faced
the
lake.
We
had
70
people
there,
we
put
10
per
table
and
had
seven
tables,
and
it
was
a
much
much
smaller
space
than
what
we
have
the
area
that
we're
looking
at
as
far
as
where
tables
would
go.
It's
kind
of
back
in
in
the
back.
I
I
Don't
think
we
would
be
handling
the
food
because
then
I
would
get
into
I'm
pretty
familiar
with
this.
With
we
make
our
own
ice
cream,
we
would
end
up
having
to
have
a
commercial
kitchen,
and
you
know
three-way
sink
and
a
wash
sink
and
a
hand
wash
sink,
and
all
that
so
I
would
see.
I
We
would
probably
have
a
caterer
come
in
and
most
likely
set
up
inside
The
Little
Garage
Barn
we're
going
to
try
our
best
to
keep
what
we
can
to
the
west
of
our
property
because
that's
owned
by
the
state
there's
no
neighbors
over
there.
The
only
neighbor
directly
associated
with
that
end
of
the
property
is
the
home
that
we
now
have
acquired
at
1328,
West,
2nd.
D
I
I
see
light
pre-recorded,
music,
very
light
background
music
and
again
this
is
going
to
be
communicated
to
guests
up
front,
and
you
know,
like
I,
said
it's
our
family
property.
So
if
it's
not
a
good
fit,
it's
not
a
good
fit.
It's
not
going
to
break
my
heart,
I'll,
send
them
somewhere
like
Richwood,
where
they
can
have
more
of
a
party
environment.
I
So
I
see
light
pre-recorded
music
again
I'll
have
that
you
can
get
a
decibel
meter
on
your
phone,
an
app
to
be
able
to
go
out
and
make
sure
at
the
property
line
that
you're
within
the
required
decibel
as
far
as
acoustic
music
would
go.
If
anyone
would
like
that
I
would
see.
Maybe
a
guitar
and
a
violin
I'd
like
to
keep.
I
As
far
as
we've
talked
about
historical
teas
in
the
backyard
and
talking
about
the
history
of
Madison,
the
history
of
the
property,
the
Civil
War
history,
maybe
like
a
small
stringed
quartet
that
just
kind
of
lightly
plays
during
the
garden
tee.
My
husband
and
I
are
also
musicians.
I
I
Most,
it
would
be
two
weekends
a
month,
maybe
a
Saturday
night
in
a
Sunday
afternoon,
but
you
know
we're
also
running
an
ice
cream
shop
and
I
homeschool,
my
kids,
so
that
that
would
be
the
most
I
would
see
doing
it.
You.
D
Know
my
only
concern
is
as
a
if
I
was
a
neighbor
of
yours
right,
not
that
it
wouldn't
be
done
properly,
but
what
I
feel
comfortable
being
out
in
my
backyard,
because
I
wouldn't
want
to
interfere
what's
going
on
in
your
backyard,
but
could
I
do
what
I
really
wanted
to
do
in
my
backyard,
because
something
nice
is
going
on
next
door?
I,
don't
know.
I
I
Plan
on
and
I
think
we
plan
on
doing
this
anyway,
putting
some
privacy
fence
up
on
our
property
line
on
the
east
side,
just
to
make
our
yard
more
private,
and
so
it
wouldn't
be
like
you're
looking
out
looking
at
what
other
people
are
doing.
The
only
reason
the
only
thing
I
see
happening
in
the
front
yard
would
possibly
be
like
Photo
up.
I
You
know
if
a
bride
and
groom
and
their
bridal
party
wanted
to
stand
in
front
of
the
house,
it's
a
it's,
a
very
beautiful,
stately,
Colonial
home,
which
would
make
a
great
backdrop
for
that.
Otherwise
I
mean
I,
think
most
of
it
would
be
in
the
backyard
and
on
the
from
the
Gazebo
back
on
the
east
side
of
the
Gazebo.
There's,
not
a
not
a
house.
It's
a
part
of
the
other
property
owner's
yard
and
we
see
trying
to
you
know,
put
up
some
nice
privacy
fence
and
more
like
Arborvitae
screening
trees.
I
12
29,
it's
eight!
Yes,
so
and
honestly,
my
my
thought
would
be.
If
and
when
we
have
a
wedding
I
would
assume
those
would
be
booked
well
in
advance
and
then
I
would
block
out
the
time
for
the
Airbnb
so
that
the
bride
and
groom
could
use
the
Airbnb
as
a
guest
space.
And
then
we
would
also
utilize
those
three
parking
spots
back
there
as
parking
for
an
event.
A
K
K
A
L
L
We
we
love
to
go,
hear
your
music,
but
we
want
to
go
to
a
video.
We
don't
want
the
venue
coming
to
us,
but-
and
we
hope
whatever
happens
today,.
A
Right
one
moment
ma'am
so.
M
A
C
I'm
Sarah,
Patterson
and
I
live
at
1225,
West
Main,
so
I'm
the
neighbor
of
both
1229
and
1328..
So
my
my
backyard
is
the
neighbor
of
1328,
oh
okay,
so
I'm
in
the
neighbor
right
next
door
and
in
listening
to
the
previous
discussions,
I
would
say:
I
have
no
issue
with
the
Airbnb.
C
The
rental
property
idea.
I
think
that
it
fits
with
our
neighborhood
that
was
already
abandoned.
Breakfast
I
think
that
that's
not
a
concern
of
anybody's.
The
concern
is
with
the
party
venue
and,
to
my
mind,
the
concern
is
around
number
three
of
your
fact-finding
questions,
which
is
harmonious
with
General
character
of
the
area.
C
That
is
a
residential
area.
The
Elks
Lodge
is
considerably
farther
back,
and
so
that
doesn't
affect
our
noise
or
our
traffic
or
parking
around
our
homes,
but
I'm
concerned
with
all
three
at
12
29..
The
noise,
for
obvious
reasons,
the
issue
of
being
in
your
backyard
and
having
a
wedding
right
next
to
you.
But
I
would
also
add
traffic
to
the
concern.
That's
a
pretty
dangerous
spot,
because
cars
are
zooming
into
Madison
and
then
slowing
down
really
quickly,
and
so,
when
cars
pull
out
into
from
the
Elks
Lodge
side
street
onto
Main
Street.
C
D
A
I
Chris
I
understand
your
concerns
as
well.
Sarah
I
understand
your
concerns.
I
haven't
had
the
chance
to
met.
You
meet
you
officially
yet
because
I
haven't
seen
you
out
yet,
but
I
understand
your
concerns
as
far
as
the
traffic
I
really,
personally,
don't
see
that
being
an
issue
because
there's
cars
all
day
in
and
out
going
from
the
Elks
Lodge
there's
pickleball
at
night
and
lots
of
people
go
for
that.
So
I
don't
see
that
really
being
an
issue
parking
as
well.
I
As
far
as
the
noise
I
mean
yeah
we're,
we
are
musicians
and
we
play
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
I
see
as
a
musician
I
see
a
big
difference
between
what
we're,
what
we're
wanting
to
offer
and
what
we
would
do
when
we
go
play
it
mad
paddle.
It's
we're
background
dinner.
Music
to
me
is
much
different
than
Someone,
putting
on
a
whole
show
and
we're
not
being
we're
not
asking
to
be
a
concert
venue.
I
We're
asking
to
provide
small
events.
I
am
more
than
willing
to
put
a
cap
on
the
amount
of
people
if
the
parking
is
a
concern
with
the
number
of
people
that
would
be
on
the
property
and
then
the
only
thing.
Other
thing
I
wanted
to
comment
on
the
wedding
in
the
backyard.
I
No,
the
prop
property
to
the
right
to
the
West
is
the
property
that
we
now
own.
The
properties
to
the
left.
G
I
I
Understand
that
but
I'm
just
I'm
just
putting
a
comment
that
that
I
feel
like
if
we
were
to
put
some
privacy
fence
and
whatnot,
it's
I,
don't
think
we're
going
to
be
in
anyone's
face
with
feeling
like
they're
disturbing
a
wedding,
but
I
completely
understand
all
of
your
concerns.
I
truly
do
so.
Thank
you.
Now.
I
D
D
G
F
Have
one
question
so
this
group
that
has
an
issue
with
the
event
space?
This
has
been
on
our
docket
a
couple
times
going
back
to
August.
Nobody
ever
opposed
or
ever
showed
up
or
made
any
comment
opposing
this.
I
Rhonda
wasn't
required,
there
were
seven
eight
Property
Owners
the
first
time
until
we
acquired
1328
and
then
otherwise.
I.
I
H
A
M
A
A
So
we
will
consider
first
through
the
we'll
consider
a
conditional
use.
This
would
be
further
a
short-term
rental.
This
would
be
the
same
as
the
other
conditional
use,
which
I
or
excuse
me
number,
which
I
believe
was
581
is
581,
so
we
will
consider
581
the
short-term
rental,
and
we
will
do
our
findings
of
fact
on
that
one
and
we'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
or
deny
that
one.
F
A
Mr
Ferris,
yes,
Mrs
Burkhart,
yes,
and
yes,
that
is
appropriate
as
it
was
on
the
other
property
number
two
harmonious
with
Comprehensive
plan,
Mr
Acosta.
A
And
the
general
objectives
are
keep
Madison
thriving,
so
I
think
that
one's
met
number
three
appropriate
with
the
existing
or
intended
character
of
the
general
vicinity.
Mr
Acosta,
oh.
H
A
H
Agree
as
well
and
there's
an
established
set
of
rules
with
defined
quiet
time,
so
I
don't
see
any
issues
with
that.
Mrs.
A
A
H
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
anything
there
that
would
indicate
it's
going
to
create
excessive
requirements
or
additional
public
expense
and
I
and
I
do
think.
You
know
that
these
types
of
businesses
do
fit
the
comprehensive
plan,
so
it
is
a
benefit
to
the
economy
of
our
community.
A
A
F
H
Yeah
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
a
couple
of
cars
is
going
to
interfere
with
traffic
or
cause
any
any
public
safety
issues.
Mrs.
A
A
I
move.
We
approve
a
conditional
use
permit
for
1229
West
Main
Street
for
a
period
of
one
year
for
use
as
a
short-term
rental
bed
and
breakfast
contingent
upon
receiving
the
rules
and
enforcing
them
and
contingent
upon
quiet
time
from
10
pm
to
9
A.M.
E
E
H
A
A
So
number
one:
do
you
agree?
This
is
in
fact
a
condition
and
we
need
you,
since
this
is
controversial,
need
your
board
members
to
make
a
statement
of
why
you
think
or
don't
think
that
these
conditions
are
met
and
not
just
a
simple.
Yes,
no
so
number
one
on
the
list.
Do
you
think
this
is
a
conditional
use,
Etc,
Mr,
Acosta,
yeah.
H
Yeah
I
think
it
does
meet
the
qualifications
for
that
ordinance.
A
H
Yeah
I
agree
as
well:
I
think
the
comprehensive
plan
is
pro-business
Pro
economic
growth
and
I
think
it
does
fit
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
A
And
I
might
add
to
Mrs
burkhart's,
noting
that
it's
in
the
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan
is
that
section
seven,
but
the
comprehensive
plan
is
also
historic
preservation,
and
this
greatly
helps
in
that.
So
I
think
that
one's
met
number
three:
is
this
design
construct
and
maintained
be
harmonious
and
appropriate
appearance
with
the
existing
or
intended
character
of
the
general
vicinity,
and
such
use
will
not
change
the
essential
character
of
the
same
area.
F
F
F
I
know
you've
gone
through
a
lot
of
trouble
for
rezoning
the
area
and
those
type
of
things
now,
with
all
that
said,
I
can't
ignore
also
the
opposition
there.
The
number
of
the
number
of
signatures
and
those
concerns,
so
I
cannot
say
that
this
is
gonna.
It
will
not
change.
The
essence
of
you
guys
are
expressing
that
it
would.
H
H
D
And
I'll
agree
with
a
lot
what
Rick
said:
I
don't
think
it's
met
either
I
think
it
does
change
an
essential
character
and
I
know:
I
live
downtown
too,
and
and
I
do
have
a
privacy
fence
between
my
neighbor
and
my
property.
But
you
know:
I
still,
I
still
feel
responsibility
if
they
were
to
have
an
event.
A
G
A
Criterion,
which
we
have
to
follow,
because
actually,
these
Criterion
are
not
made
up
by
us
they're
state
law
and
they're,
dictated
in
Indiana
code,
37,
39
days,
seven
days,
four
days,
nine
hundred
so
when
we
have
to
consider
the
existing
character
of
the
area,
there's
been
abundant.
Testimony
that
Whitehall
bed
and
breakfasts,
which
functioned
for
years
and
years,
never
bothered
anybody.
A
The
character
of
the
area
was
residential.
The
Elks
do
every
they
do
about
everything
inside
so
given
the
history,
I
would
have
to
agree
that
that
one
is
not
met
and
it
would
change
the
character
of
the
area
number
four.
Do
you
agree?
This
will
not
be
hazardous
or
disturbing
to
existing
or
future
neighboring
uses.
Mr
Acosta.
F
No
again
with
the
signatures
we
see
and
the
Expressions
that
we've
heard
from
the
crowd,
I
believe
that
this
would
tend
to
be
disturbing
to
the
existing
neighbors.
A
H
Can't
agree
that
it
won't
be
hazardous
or
disturbing
to
existing
or
future
neighboring
uses,
and
and
for
some
of
the
reasons
that
Mrs
Burkhart
explained
in
her
previous
comments.
A
F
H
I,
don't
see
any
reason
to
believe
that
those
essential
facilities
and
services
wouldn't
continue
to
be
provided.
A
H
Yeah
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
there's
going
to
be
any
excessive
requirements
required
at
the
public
expense.
For
this.
A
And
I
wore
it
there,
it
wouldn't
hurt
the
economic
welfare
and
there
would
be
no
police
or
anything
like
that
required.
I
think
that
particular
one
is
met,
and
now
this
one
number
seven
do
you
agree.
This
will
not
involve
uses
activities,
processes,
materials,
conditions
of
operation.
There
will
be
detrimental
to
any
person's
property
or
the
general
welfare.
By
reason
of
excessive
production
of
traffic
noise
smoke
fumes,
glare,
odors,
Mr,
Acosta.
F
I
I
read
this
as
being
detrimental
I.
Don't
believe
this
will
be
detrimental
even
with
another
statements
made
about
potential
noise,
not
that
it
won't
be
disturbing,
but
reading
this
word
is
being
detrimental
and
causing
harm,
but
I
do
not
believe
that
will
that
will
be
an
issue.
A
Well,
detrimental
in
the
sense
of
disturbing
persons
or
property,
I.
Think
personally,
that
that
that
could
be
an
issue.
I
think
that
one
fails,
in
my
view,
number
eight
vehicle
or
approaches
property,
no
interference
with
traffic,
Mr
Acosta.
F
I,
don't
think
we
meet
that
as
well
again,
going
back
to
testimony
from
some
of
the
crowd
the
number
of
people,
the
number
of
vehicles
it
does
sound
like
it
could
have
an
impact.
N
H
H
I
think
that
one,
if
the
occupancy
and
the
number
of
parking
spaces
the
applicant
detailed
for
us
is
in
fact
you
know
the
the
right
number
I,
don't
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
that
that's
going
to
cause
a
big
issue
with
traffic
interference.
So
I
do
agree
with
that.
One.
D
A
H
Yeah
I
don't
see
any
issues
with
with
number
nine
causing
any
destruction
or
damage
to
Natural
or
Scenic
features.
D
A
A
We
have
to
vote
to
approve
with,
possibly
if
you
agree
with
conditions,
or
we
have
to
vote
to
deny,
we
can't
just
let
the
thing
hang
and,
in
addition,
for
our
rules,
if
we
find
objections
to
this-
and
we
had
unanimous
objections
to
Criterion
three
and
Criterion
four
well,
I-
guess
that
we
could
vote
yes
to
do
it.
But
if
you
have
objections,
really
you
should
vote.
No
is
more
in
line
with
the
rules
we
adopted.
A
A
A
I
Suit
and
to
you
guys
thank
you
for
working
with
me
on
it
for
six
months
and
honestly,
thank
you
for
doing
your
job,
because
I'm
coming
from
Pulaski
County
Indiana,
where
the
PCA
just
not
listening
to
neighbors,
they
have
the
largest
scale
solar
project
coming
in
over
30
000
acres
in
the
country
largest
in
the
country
where
30
to
50
people
will
come
and
express
concern
and
for
whatever
reason,
they're
still
proving
it.
So
honestly,
thank
you
all
and
I
hope
my
home
county
can
take
after
your
example
and
actually
listen
to
neighbors.
I
G
A
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
would
have
been
Carrie
Tucker,
a
conditional
use
permit
for
an
in-home
daycare,
2713
Basswood,
but
she
has
requested
that
we
table
this
till
our
next
regular
meeting
due
to
her
conflicts
of
schedule.
Therefore,
I
move.
We
table
this
application
bzecu-23-3
till
our
next
regular
meeting.
G
G
A
Moving
on
the
next
one
is
Daryl
Detmer
variance
of
use
to
allow
expansion
of
business
from
adjoining
property
on
the
East
for
the
manufacture
of
custom
countertops.
This
is
at
140,
Clifty,
Drive,
Zone,
General
business,
so
representative
come
up
here
and
give
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
tell
the
board
exactly
why
and
what
you
want
to
do.
J
J
A
J
J
J
I'm,
basically
going
to
put
a
garage
door
in
the
back
of
the
building.
Leave
the
front
the
same
as
this,
because
I
don't
want
to
screw
up
the
value
of
the
property
by
making
it
look
like
something
other
than
what
it
is,
or
a
business
area
put
a
garage
door
in
the
back,
pave
that
in
behind
there
and
then
basically
just
be
coming
from
behind
the
building.
That
I
am
now
and.
G
A
A
A
A
A
A
And
I
understand
that,
on
your
application,
I
appreciate
your
honesty
that
you
have
you're
trying
to
go
this
route
so
that
possibly
someday
you
may
have
to
or
want
to
or
whatever
sell
that
property
and,
of
course,
I
also
understand,
there's
an
alternative
that
you
can
do,
which
is
to
join
those
properties
together
as
one
property
so
board.
Members,
in
my
mind,
I
personally,
am
so
opposed
of
variants
of
use.
A
That
I
would
prefer
that
if
there
is
an
alternative,
the
alternative
be
used
like
was
used
with
1229
West
Main.
The
alternative
was
spot
zoning
and,
in
my
view,
that
was
appropriate
because
that
building
is
so
historically
important
in
Madison
being
the
where
the
surgeons
were
in
the
Civil
War
Hospital.
A
So
if
you
see
my
my
point
board
members,
that's
what
concerns
me.
The
Criterion
in
our
zoning
ordinance.
A
A
A
Shall
prove
or
deny
variances
of
use
number
three:
the
need
for
the
variance
rises
from
some
condition
peculiar
to
the
property
number.
Four
strict
application
constitutes
an
unnecessary
hardship.
A
A
A
A
M
Don't
see
any
issue
under
the
specific
circumstances,
to
use
the
variance
of
use
it
wouldn't
be
in
here
if
it
wasn't
something
that
could
be
done.
I
understand,
you're
struggle
with
the
public
policy
of
a
variance
of
use,
but
the
ordinance
allows
it
in
reviewing
the
outline
of
the
findings
that
have
to
be
made
by
the
board.
I
think
that
the
board
could
find
in
either
direction
frankly,
based
on
his
application.
M
M
M
And
you're
not
going
to
have
a
lot
of
individuals
asking
for
this
type
of
use.
Framing
at
least
I'm
sure
Daryl
doesn't
hope
that
there
are
any
I.
F
J
F
J
J
F
D
G
J
H
A
A
H
I
mean
he's
going
to
be
a
neighbor
to
himself
and
he's
already
got
existing
operations
next
door
anyway.
So
I
don't
think,
there's
going
to
be
any
adverse
effect
to
the
neighborhood.
A
A
H
It's
an
existing
business,
that's
trying
to
expand
and
liberal
enforcement
would
prevent
business
expansion
and.
A
A
F
H
As
I
stated
earlier,
I
think
it
I
think
it
fits
in
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
A
H
How
to
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
this
variance
of
use?
Second,.
G
A
Next,
on
the
agenda
mark
viturna,
526,
Walnut,
Street,
variance
from
development,
standard
standards
for
setbacks,
desires
for
innovate,
home,
add
a
second
story.
Footprint
will
not
change.
He
doesn't
meet
the
current
setbacks.
Yes,
sir,
if
you
could
give
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
please.
P
So
we
purchased
this
property
back
in
December
and
it's
in
pretty
rough
shape,
but
we
think
that
we
can
save
it.
That's
our
intent!
It's
historically
significant
it's
in
the
Georgetown
neighborhood.
We
don't
want
to
see
the
see
it
meet.
The
same
fate
is
the
one
next
to
it.
It's
still
very
much
able
to
be
salvaged.
However,
you
know
in
in
order
to
really
continue
work
on
the
property.
P
I
believe
that
it's
in
everyone's
best
interest
that
we
go
ahead
and
get
a
variance
for
development
standards
in
place,
because
I
was
advised
by
the
planning
department
that
that
would
probably
be
best,
even
though
we're
not
changing
the
physical
footprint.
Now
we're
not
technically
adding
a
second
story.
The
Second
Story
was
there,
but
we
are
going
to
be
elevating
the
height
by
a
few
feet
to
make
it
more
of
a
livable
space
instead
of
the
very
aggressive
slope
that
was
back
there.
A
P
A
D
P
Well
again,
the
footprint's
not
going
to
change,
but
by
elevating
that
really
aggressive
slope
back
there
we're
looking
to
probably
gain
another
300
square
feet
of
additional
living
space.
Originally
it
was
995
and
we
hope
with
these
additions
we
can
push
closer
to
1300,
which
should
help,
especially
because
we're
going
to
make
it
a
long-term
rental,
hopefully
because
I
think
there's
quite
a
bit
of
demand.
There's
not
a
lot
of
availability.
P
For
you
know
we
have
plenty
of
airbnbs,
but
not
a
lot
of
long-term
rentals
and
hopefully
that'll
that
extra
square
footage
will
open
up
to
more
families
that
might
have
larger
family
member.
You
know
larger
number
of
members
in
their
family,
so
that's
another
reason
why
we
wanted
to
go
up.
You
know
and
and
have
any
room
set,
can
expand
some
square
footage
and
just
a
way
to
add
a
little
bit
more
value
to
that
street.
But.
D
P
Yes,
yeah,
it's
yeah,
just
a
typical
Federal,
Style,
historic
expert,
but.
P
The
rear,
the
rear
of
the
building
is
well
actually
I,
say
that
now
that
the
building
next
to
it
has
been
taken
down,
it's
a
little
bit
more
visible,
but
you
know
with
us
renovating
and
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
better.
Looking
than
what.
A
A
A
A
Definitely
a
benefit
to
Walnut
Street
that
one's
met
number
two:
this
is
the
use
and
value
of
adjacent
properties
be
adversely
affected.
Mr
Acosta.
D
A
F
F
A
B
G
A
A
Q
Introduce
yourself
again,
my
name
is
Tim
Ross
I'm
here
up
here,
representing
Crystal,
Steve
Pavey.
This
is
Crystal.
We
do
you
want
my
address
or.
A
Q
Okay,
Crystal
owns
20
sub
makers
through
there
part
of
its
Wetlands
part
of
it's
not
obviously,
where
the
old
Buchanan
concrete
plant
used
to
be.
The
older
people
remember
that
so
what
they're
wanting
to
do
is
they're
going
to
subdivide
an
area
off
there,
where
the
pretty
much
where
the
concrete
plant
used
to
be
so
we
are
not
touching
the
wetlands
and
what
they
want
to
do
is
they
want
to
develop
this
into
a
it's.
Q
A
privately
owned
gas
station
will
be
for
the
public
it'll
be
labeled
as
BP,
where
there'll
be
a
gasoline,
fueling
Island
out
front
with
convenience
store
and
a
restaurant
in
the
end
of
it,
with
a
drive
through
so
they'll,
be
able
to
sell
food
such
as
that
and
they'll
have
a
decent
diesel
Island
out
back
It's
Made
to
be
able
to
handle
a
couple
of
trucks
at
a
time
just
to
pick
up
the
traffic,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
truck
traffic
from
manufacturing
and
stuff
there
that
that
most
of
that
you're
not
going
to
pick
it
all
up,
but
you're
going
to
pick
a
little
bit
of
it
up.
Q
Because
a
lot
of
these
semis
have
set
places
that
they're
told
by
their
freight
company
where
they
buy
their
fuel,
so
some
of
the
privately
stuff
they'll
be
able
to
pick
up,
but
we're
going
to
have
five
gas
Islands
out
front
two
fueling
islands
in
the
back
with
with
a
nice
size,
C
store
we
do
have.
If
you
need
elevation
pictures
of
it,
we
can
send
them
to
you.
Q
It's
it's
a
very
upscale
building
putting
in
a
cheap
pole,
barn,
it's
going
to
be
it's
nice,
it's
Pleasant
to
the
eyes,
and
what
we're
going
to
do
is
our
plans
are,
is
to
go
in
there
and
develop
that
and
turn
that
into
into
a
nice
space.
Now
we
have
no
plans
for
overnight
truck
parking
things
like
that.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
they're
going
to
have
hours
are
going
to
be.
Q
Five
to
nine,
you
could
get
fuel
after
hours
a
lot
of
your
transports,
so
they
don't,
inter
you
know,
mess
with
the
flow
of
the
vehicles,
may
drop
fuel
overnight,
but
they're
not
out
there
doing
a
lot
of
beating
and
banging
and
stuff
like
that.
We
will
set
it
up
where
the
pumps
can
be
used
24
hours,
even
though
the
store
may
be
closed.
That's
the
new
thing
now
everybody's
got
them
set
up,
or
you
can
do
that.
The
state
passed
that
a
few
years
ago,
where
you're
allowed
to
do
that.
Q
G
Q
Across
the
bridge,
so
it's
a
nice
location
for
them.
The
traffic
flow
that
they're
going
to
pick
up
I
know,
there's
some
other
gas
stations
being
built
here
in
town
Arby's
and
then
on
out
towards
Hanover.
It's
totally
different
traffic
flow
than
what
we're
picking
up
there.
A
lot
of
those
people
are
going
to
those
factories
and
they're
coming
in
from
you
know,
up
north
Canaan
different
places
like
that.
So.
H
H
Q
D
Q
Q
There
is
going
to
be
a
buffer
there
between
those,
the
buffer
out
front,
the
grassy
area,
there's
utilities
and
stuff
in
there.
So
we've
got
to
maintain
a
pretty
good
size
buffer
in
there.
So
there's
room
for
some
nice
Landscaping
up
there.
Now
the
actual,
ditch
line
itself,
just
the
narrow,
ditch,
is
considered
as
Wetlands.
Why
anybody
put
a
ditch
as
Wetlands
I
have
no
idea,
but
you're
talking
a
two
foot
wide,
ditch,
but
other
than
that
everything
will
be
nicely
landscaped
out
front
lighting.
D
Q
It's
all
coming
at
one
time
when
it
gets
when
we
start
one
time
and
be
completed.
Q
K
Q
G
Q
A
A
Q
Pick
up
some
of
the
road
semis
that
is
coming
into
some
of
the
fact
the
majority
of
the
people
that
they're
going
to
pick
up,
because
if
that,
if
that
delivery
drug
is
being
brought
in
by
a
large
delivery
company,
either
a
they've
got
their
own
pumps
or
they've
got
a
preset
established
price,
but
the
loves
of
Flying
J
places
like
that.
Where
they're
using
com
check
it's
it's
a
whole
different
app.
So
are
they
going
to
pick
up
some
truck
business?
Absolutely?
Q
Are
you
going
to
see
10
12
truck
lines
up
at
this
place
now
you're
going
to
see
trucks
in
there?
Then
you
may
not
see
any
in
there
for
then,
you
might
see
nobody
knows
exactly
what
that's
going
to
be,
but
you're
to
to
see
10
to
12
trucks
lined
up
at
this
facility
you're
just
not
going
to
see
it.
Now.
Q
If,
on
the
layout,
there
was
a
site
plan
that
we
provided
on
the
layout,
the
diesel
Islands
actually
go
behind
the
building.
Now
the
reason
for
that
there's
a
house
to
the
south
side
and
for
putting
that-
and
that
is
if
there
was
a
truck
back
their
fuel
on
or
they
were
idling
to
get
their
fuel
now
that
put
them
more
towards
the
back
side
of
the
building.
So
we
could
deaden
some
of
the
sound
before
we
got
before
it
got
over
towards
your
house.
Q
Q
Q
It's
just
and
it's
going
to
do
the
majority
of
the
diesel
there
is
going
to
pick
up
the
farm
trucks
with
the
gooseneck,
the
the
you
know
stuff
like
that.
That's
what
we're
going
to
pick
up
the
other
thing
that
we're
going
to
see
a
lot
of
they're
putting
in
a
non-alcohol
fuel,
so
we're
going
to
see
a
lot
more
of
the
boaters
coming
south
people
lawn
mowers,
stuff
like
that,
are
going
to
be
coming
in
there
rather
than
drop
well
the
closest
place
to
get
non-off.
All
fuel
is
always
good,
Indiana.
Q
Well
we're
going
to
have
that
here
in
Madison
now,
so
that
is
we're
mainly
going
after
the
automotive
people.
That's
why
we're
putting
in
five
Islands
out
front
where
you're
not
going
to
get
a
big
bunch
of
noise,
but
we
are
going
to
pick
up
some
semi
traffic
and
when
we
do
that,
that
will
be
behind
the
building
you
know.
Are
they
going
to
be
pumping
200
000
gallon
a
month
in
diesel
trucks?
No
they're,
not
they're,
not
going
to
be
doing
that
kind
of
it's
just
you're,
just
not
going
to
see
a
seat.
H
So
just
go
ahead,
just
so
we're
clear
the
property's
not
going
to
be
used
as
a
substation
for
for
any
carriers,
and
the
reason
I
ask
is
because
the
Fuel
Mart
over
at
Austin
is
one
of
the
smallest
fueling
stations
that
I
send
my
trucks
to
Coke
has
anywhere
from
four
to
six
trailers
parked
on
that
property
at
any
given
time.
Q
I
I
trust
in
there
I
just
was
over
at
that
place
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
because
I'm
supposed
to
rebuild
it
too,
and
that's
actually
getting
a
new
c-store
and
everything
that's
not
out
yet,
but
that
particular
lot
is
larger
than
the
lot
that
we're
getting
ready
to
develop
here.
We
just
do
not
have
the
room.
Q
If
you
look
at
the
parking
spots,
we
do
not
have
the
room
to
spot
and
leave
trucks
over
there
and
leave
you're
you're
talking
a
when
I
was
over
there
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
compared
to
what
these
guys
are
getting
ready
to
develop.
You're
talking
a
lot,
that's
half
of
getting
bigger,
so
they
have
the
room
to
spot
trailers.
We
do
not
have
the
room
to
spot
trailers
the
way
we're
laying
it
out.
Q
The
only
thing
we
have
put
on
that
south
side
of
the
building
is
where
we're
putting
the
fuel
tanks-
and
you
know,
I've-
got
a
regulation
that
I
have
to
stay
on
the
property
line
and
and
we're
gonna
we're
gonna.
Do
that
reason,
for
that,
is
you
cannot
park
over
the
top
of
the
underground
storage
tanks?
That's
a
non-parking
area
so
therefore
we're
going
to
put
the
tanks
over
there.
Q
D
Q
Q
That's
big
numbers
today,
you're
lucky
to
get
a
gas
station,
that's
doing
100
120
for
a
big
gas
station,
because
there's
so
much
competition.
So
when
you
do
that
the
traffic
count
goes
down
quite
a
bit
where
you
make
your
money.
I'm.
Sorry
is
inside
coach,
twinkies
and
ho-hos.
You
don't
make
your
money
off
the
fuel
there.
G
H
Q
Thinks
it's
a
big
it's
a
big
money
gain
fuel
is
more
of
a
loss
leader
to
get
you
inside
and
they
call
them
convenience
stores
for
a
reason:
they're,
not
the
cheapest
convenience,
and
that
would
that
I
do
believe
in
that
area.
It
will
be
beneficial
to
the
factories
to
the
people
coming
in
and
out
of,
there
be
beneficial
a
lot
of
babies,
but
it's
going
to
be
beneficial
to
people.
There's
people
in
the
trailer
park,
they're
walking
up
that
dark
road.
Q
All
the
time
that
I
have
physically
almost
hit
myself,
because
why
somebody
in
the
middle
of
night
wants
to
wear
black
into
town
and
walk
along
the
edge
of
the
road
I
have
no
clue
how
many
times
have
you
guys
come
up
there
and
people
been
walking
at
the
edge
of
that
road.
Where
now
those
people
have
got,
you
know
they're
going
to
go
pick
up
their
stuff,
so
they're,
obviously
going
to
walk
caddy
cornered
across
across
them
come
over
to
there
and
I.
Q
Q
Q
They
they
passed
everything
without.
We
didn't
have
no
issues
there.
A
Yeah,
that
meeting
was
mainly
about
setbacks
and
yes,
well,
board
members.
If
you
have
no
more
questions,
somebody
from
the
audience
back
here
would
like
to
speak.
Gentlemen
ma'am.
You
can
sit
down.
R
R
I
do
have
you
know
some
concerns
with
the
gas
station
convenience
store,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
being
built
there.
You
know
personally,
for
me:
I
have
seven
kids
going
from
the
age
of
nine
all
the
way
down
to
a
newborn.
R
So
to
me
you
know
you
the
thought
of
more
traffic
coming
in
fumes
from
trucks
coming
in,
just
anything
like
that,
and
then
you
have
more
people
to
me.
I
moved
out
to
that
area
because
it
was
a
country
setting.
You
know,
I
didn't
have
to
worry
about
pretty
much
neighbors.
My
closest
Neighbors.
R
80
yards
or
more,
but
well,
maybe
not
that
much,
but
still
I
have
one
neighbor
and
then
you
know
other
than
that.
I
have
nothing
so
now
you're
introducing
all
this
traffic
now
I
have
you
know
in
my
head,
I
have
more
people
that
I
have
to
worry
about.
You
know
coming
around
and
having
more
traffic
around
my
kids.
R
You
know
I
that
pretty
much
you
know,
I'm
gonna
have
to
put
a
privacy
fence
up
if
I
want
to
feel
even
more
safe
about
my
kids.
You
know
safety
with
you
know,
strangers
coming
in
and
out
trucks
coming
in
and
out.
R
You
know
one
thing
I
I
would
like
to
say
is
you
know
they
say,
there's
going
to
be
no
trucks
staying
overnight.
Personally,
I
live
right
next
door,
there's
a
truck
there.
Now
there's
another
truck.
There.
There's
been
multiple
other
trucks
in
and
out
that
sleep
there
overnight
leave
their
engines
running,
there's
been
Vehicles
over
there.
I
personally
have
had
to
go
and
tell
them
like
hey.
You
guys
need
to
go
and
I
mean
you
know
what
they're
doing
when
they
they
both
pull
up.
R
They
end
something
out
their
window
and
they're
on
their
way.
You
know
what
it
is.
You
know
it's
I
mean
it
got
to
a
point.
Actually
that
I
had
to
talk
with
officer.
Finnegan,
he's
kind
of
a
family
friend
and
I've
asked
him.
You
know,
hey
man.
If
there's
any
way,
you
could
Patrol
this
area.
Whenever
you
get
a
chance.
R
You
know
the
noise
thing's
another
another
issue
for
me.
If
it's
24
7,
if
you
even
if
you
have
you
know,
even
if
you
don't
have
that
many
trucks,
but
you
do
have
trucks
coming
in
24,
7.
I
hear
every
bit
of
traffic
that
comes
on
that
road.
I
hear
the
Factory
Medicine
Precision
that's
way
across
the
road
I
hear
Nucor,
which
I
personally
work
at
that's
even
farther
away
from
me.
I
can
hear
tubes
falling
over
there
if
they
drop
a
bundle
outside
of
scrap
at
night.
R
I
can
hear
all
of
this
in
my
front
room,
my
bedroom,
my
garage,
any
of
that.
So
my
biggest
concern
is
you
know.
The
lighting
was
an
issue
until
the
engineer
did
say
that
the
new
design
that
points
it
down
which
I
do.
That
is
something
that
I.
You
know
I
like
to
hear
that
you
know
I'm
not
going
to
have
to
worry
about.
You
know
the
side
that
that
gas
station
is
going
to
be.
R
The
side
of
my
house
at
the
gas
station
is
closest
to
I,
have
I,
have
four
kids
on
that
side
of
the
house.
I
have
two
kids
in
one
bedroom
and
two
kids
in
another
bedroom.
So
you
know
that
was
going
to
be
a
big
issue.
Is
noise
and
then
obviously
the
lights
fumes
is
another
issue.
I
just
I'm
really
concerned
with
all
of
that.
R
I
do
understand
like
what
they're
saying.
As
far
as
you
know,
there's
nothing
on
that
side
of
town.
But
to
me
it's
a
it's.
A
two-minute
drive
from
my
work
to
a
gas
station
down
the
road
at
Circle.
K
I
get
there
in
two
minutes.
Maybe
three.
If
you
know
there's
traffic
two
minutes
usually
and
that's
speed
limit.
R
It's
just
to
me.
It's
an
unnecessary
thing.
You
know
I,
don't
understand.
Like
the
gentleman
just
said
gas
isn't
even
the
money
maker.
So
why
even
put
gas
there?
If
there's
gas
stations
down
the
road
and
Madison
alone,
you
have
a
Speedway
three
Circle
K's.
You
have
a!
What
is
that
it's
changed,
so
much
I
think
it's
Jazzy's
now,
which
is
a
little
bit
down
the
road,
so
I
just
feel
like
in
that
area.
It's
just
not
enough!
You
know
a
necessity
for
you
to
have.
R
You
know.
I
personally
live
right
there
and
I'm
perfectly
fine,
driving
two
minutes
down
the
road
to
to
get
a
Polar
Pop
to
get
gas
to
get
whatever
I
might
need.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
does
that
I,
you
know
I
I
I'm
concerned
about
as
well
is
the
upkeep.
R
It
was
bought
in
2017.
and
the
upkeep
right
now,
nothing
against
Crystal.
We
actually
talked
outside
and
she
seems
like
a
wonderful
person.
She
told
me
that
you
know
she
she's
going
to
try
to
do
our.
You
know
hardest
to
keep
it
if
it
does
go
through
to
keep
it
looking
the
best,
and
you
know
she
doesn't
want
any
issues
and
we've
never
had
any
issues,
and
it's
just
like
you
know,
with
kids.
It's
a
big
concern.
R
I
just
I
feel
like
it's
nothing
that
really
needs
to
be
there
I.
Just
personally,
don't
think
that
it's
a
good
idea
to
to
put
there
I
mean
honestly,
it's
it's
one
of
those
things
that
you're
you're
just
creating
to
me
a
more
more
of
a
problem
than
it
than
anything
you
lived.
You
know
they.
They
live
in
Milroy
Indiana.
So
my
concern
is
who's
going
to
be
able
to
manage
that
to
tell
those
truck
drivers,
no
you're
not
staying
here.
Are
they
going
to
have
someone
go
out
there?
R
R
It's
just
there's
a
lot
of
concerns
that
I
feel
like
it's.
It's
just
not
a
good
place
to
to
gas
station.
To
me
is
just
it's
not
a
good
area.
R
Another
concern
was
like
like
I.
Never
I
crystal
s
at
cards
did
get
sent
out,
but
for
some
reason
I
never
received
one
Nucor
never
received
one.
That
I
know
of.
There
was
two
people
tandy's,
which
owns
the
farm
on
the
that
would
be
the
I'm,
pretty
sure,
the
east
side
of
opposite
side
of
421
and
then
a
family
friend
which
is
Rick
Schaefer.
R
He
owns
the
Billboards
that
on
the
corner
of
Michigan,
Road
and
421
he's
actually
one
that
told
me
about
it
at
six
o'clock
today,
so
I
didn't
even
know
anything
about
I
knew
that
she
had
been
in
talks,
because
I
had
talked
to
her
about
buying
some
of
the
property
just
to
have
more
property.
R
For
my
kids
and
she
had
said
something
about
putting
a
gas
station,
but
you
know
when
you
bought
it
in
2017
and
I
bought
my
house
in
2020
and
nothing's
happened
and
then
now
it's
2023,
you
don't
you
know
and
then
you're
finally
hearing
about
you
I
honestly
thought
it
was
a
joke
at
first
but
I.
Just
you
know
my
my
concerns
is
my
kids,
my
kids
safety,
the
fumes,
everything
like
that
noise.
R
You
know
it's
just
it's
a
concern
of
mine.
D
Where
his
property
is,
is
my
manufacturer.
R
You
know
if
it
rains
quite
a
bit,
you
do
have
you
know
it
holds
some
water
and
but
as
far
as
the
zoning
you
know,
I
honestly
don't
know
what
it
is.
R
And
whatever
happens,
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
you
to
think
that
I
you
know.
Ain't
gonna
like
you're,
not
gonna
as
I,
do
have
one
more
question.
As
far
as
you
know,
the
property
lines
I
see
that
they're
they're
marked
how
close
is
is
the
actual
parking
lot
or
the
the
building
itself
going
to
be
close
to
that?
That.
Q
Yes,
they
they're
going
to
be
up
here
all
the
time
and
I
can't
monitor
it.
Every
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
set
you
at
ease,
Once,
you
turn
this
into
a
lit
gas
station
want
to
turn
it
in
to
a
well-maintained
where
it's,
the
garbage
and
stuff
that
being
used
as
a
landfill
is
going
to
stop
because
they
can't
get
in
and
out
of
there
without
getting
caught.
Yeah
I
caught
a
guy
like
I,
said
about
a
year
ago,.
R
The
police-
well,
that
was
one
of
the
biggest
issues
is,
you
know,
like
I
said,
there's
been
multiple
Vehicles
over
there.
You
know
I
at
first.
You
know
they
were
like
I'd
ask
them
to
leave
and
then
they'd
be
like.
Would
you
own
this
property?
No
I
am
right.
There
and
I.
Don't
want
you
here
and
then
they
would
be
like
well,
if
you
don't
own
it,
you
can't
ask
me
to
leave
so
then
it's
kind
of
one
of
those
things
where
I
was
like
yeah
I
do
so
leave
go
like
I.
Q
Q
O
Q
Q
D
O
A
mother
I
think
my
only
concern
is
like
right
now.
We
know
that
none
of
our
neighbors
are
sex
offenders
or
or
anything
like
that.
But
you
put
a
gas
station
there,
my
kids
playing
in
the
backyard
or
even
the
front
yard,
and
people
already
walked
down
the
highway
but
causing
more
traffic
flow
for
people
to
walk
to
the
gas
station
pretty
much
through
our
yard,
because
it's
going
to
be
on
the
same
side
of
the
road
it
really
it
it
doesn't.
J
R
A
I
do
have
one
question
for
the
builders
assuming
you
if
you
were
to
get
a
conditional
use
permit
tonight.
When
would
you
anticipate
opening
within
a
year?
Oh,
yes,.
Q
O
Q
A
F
It's
you
know:
it's
adding
more
more
services,
more
conveniences
to
the
area
to
see
that
contributing
to
the
comprehensive
plan.
H
I
think
it
fits
perfectly
within
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
zoning
ordinance.
It's
it's
new
business
development.
A
F
Yeah
I
think
it
will
will
improve
the
area.
I
mean
using
that
vacant.
Lot
that
you
know
currently
gets
dumped
on
that
type
of
stuff,
obviously
that'll
be
improved.
F
I
I
do
believe,
I
hear
the
concerns
from
the
residents
there,
but
I
think
I.
Think
I
also
hear
that
there
may
be
more
issues
fixed
than
cost
I
mean
it
because
of
some
of
the
stuff.
That's
going
on
now
sounds
fairly
dangerous
and
there
could
be
a
slight
impact
on
traffic,
but
I
I
do
think.
There's
a
some
positive
to
come
out
of
it
as
a
net
result.
H
Yeah
I
think
so
as
well.
You
know
if
they're
partnering,
with
BP
BP
is
going
to
have
standards
that
they
have
to
meet
for
new
construction,
the
the
maintenance
part
of
it.
You
know,
I
I,
witnessed
earlier
that
I
stop
at
two
of
their
other
locations.
They're
always
always
well
maintained.
Always
clean
I
have
no
no
concerns
there.
H
A
F
H
I
agree
as
well:
I
think
I
think
is
Mr
Acosta
pointed
out
earlier:
I
think
it
will
fix
more
things
than
than
cause
harm,
so.
D
I
agree
with
those
comments
and
I
hope:
the
dialogue
continues
with
the
people
that
own
the
property
and
the
adjacent
homeowners
with
her
concerns,
certainly
valid.
That
they'll
continue
to
work
together
and
maybe
come
to
a
common
denominator
of
what
you
feel
is
safety,
though
I
don't
know
if
you'll
ever
have
that
safe
feeling,
which
I
think
is
the
way
we
live
today,
but
I
hope
you
can
get
together
and
figure
out
something
that
would
make
you
feel
a
little
bit
better.
A
A
A
A
H
A
A
I
think
it
probably
won't
hurt
I
see
no
detriment
to
the
welfare
and
no
need
for
public
facilities
and
whatnot
number
seven.
This
will
not
involve
uses
activities,
processes
so
forth
detrimental
to
any
person's
property.
By
reason
of
excessive
production
of
traffic
noise
smoke
fumes,
glare,
odors,
Mr
Acosta,
no.
A
H
Yeah
and
I
I
agree
with
all
those
comments
as
well,
and
one
thing
that
I
want
to
point
out
is
the
the
diesel
engines
that
we
run
today
are
so
heavily
burdened
with
emissions
control
systems
that
you
know
the
the
fumes
are
not
going
to
be
what
what
they
were
if
this
would
have
been
built
back
in
the
70s,
so
you
know,
and
I
I
do
I
do
appreciate
the
neighbors
comments.
H
A
A
F
Think
the
plans
is
presented,
don't
show
anything,
that's
going
to
create
an
interference
with
the
traffic.
H
I
agree
as
well
and-
and
you
know,
I
just
I-
come
back
to
the
other
aspects
of
this
business.
You
know
they.
They
have
a
vested
interest
in
making
sure
that
80-foot
semi
can
get
in
unencumbered
and
do
it
safely.
A
It
has
to
be
designed
so
that
trucks
can
get
in
so
I
think
they'll.
Take
that
on
account
number
nine
destruction,
laws
of
natural
Scenic,
historic
features,
Mr
Acosta.
F
I
think
again,
as
that,
the
builders
explained
preservation
of
as
much
of
the
wetlands
as
possible.
All
that
I
don't
see
any
negative
impact
in
in
those
areas.
Mr.
H
I
agree
as
well:
I
I
think
I
think
that
there
are
enough
governing
agencies
that
they
have
to
please
to
stay
away
from
damaging
the
the
Wetland
that
they're
not
going
to
do
they're
not
going
to
do
anything
to
jeopardize
that.
A
A
F
A
G
A
A
A
No,
no,
sir,
what
that
means
is
you
have
a
conditional
use
permit
and
two
years
from
now,
you'll
just
have
to
renew
it
subject,
pain
or
renewal
fee
and
that
there
are
no
no
complaints
or
anything
that
would
cause
the
thing
to
be
reviewed
and
at
the
time
it's
the
practice
of
the
building
office
to
send
out
an
opportunity
for
you
to
come
back
and
make
your
case
that
it
should
be
for
longer
than
that
so
I.
The
reason
I
suggested
have
I
made
it
clear
so
far.
N
A
A
A
N
A
H
Concern
is
they're,
going
to
invest
a
couple
million
dollars
and
that's
what
I
was
getting
ready
to
say
about
it.
Yeah
it's
going
to
be
a.
A
M
The
issue
that
you're
running
into
is
the
zoning
it's
zoned
in
the
way
it's
zoned.
The
only
way
you
could
approved
for
a
gas
station
was
a
conditional
use.
It's
either
have
it
rezoned
or
you
can't
have
the
gas
station
yeah
and
the
normal
term
of
a
conditional
use.
The
practice
of
the
board
is
one
year.
There
are
other
businesses
that
have
longer
terms
and,
like
the
chairman
said
when
the
meeting
started,
you
heard
all
those
renewals
get
approved.
None
of
those
people
were
here
tonight
they
all
paid
a
fee.
M
Nobody
was
here
so
I
understand
what
your
concern
is.
The
way
to
address
it
would
be
to
ask:
has
property
rezoned
into
a
zoning
place
where
it's
permitted,
but
the
only
mechanism
of
this
board
can
do.
It
is
a
conditional
use
and
he
did
a
two-year
because
I
in
one
year
you
wouldn't
be
anywhere
probably
you'd
have
no
history
of
use.
M
I
understand
we
have
other
businesses
that
come
in
this
town
and
spend
five
ten
fifteen
million
dollars
for
for
a
business.
The
location
that's
been
chosen
is
zoned
a
certain
way
and
you
have
to
have
a
conditional
use
and
that's
what
we
got
if
you
want
to
avoid
having
to
come
back
ever
zoning,
the
zoning
change
would
have
to
happen
into
a
zoning
classification
that
said
permitted
okay
and
we
would
avoid
it.
Q
M
G
Q
You
know
just
complaints
that
maybe
mess
them
up.
That
really
really
wasn't
a
really
a
merited
complaint.
But
if
there
was
just
complaints,
I
mean
if
I
wanted
to
complain
about
you
I'd
complain
about,
it
doesn't
mean
it
was.
H
True,
the
guy
that
comes
in
that
was
walking
down
the
street
and
and
and
he
couldn't
get
in
the
store
because
it
was
closed
and
he
complains
about
it,
yeah
that
that
didn't
mean
anything
right,
but
if
I
did
yeah.
If
idem
comes
in
oh.
Q
Of
the
renewal
and
I'm
not
even
worried
about
what
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
saying
I'm,
not
worried,
I'm,
not
concerned
about
on
Devon's
side,
because
I
think
the
babies
are
going
to
do
everything
they
can
to
be
a
good
neighbor
and
work
with
him
under
the
circumstances,
I
think
they're
going
to
do
everything
they
can.
What
even
under
not
under
the
circumstances,
that's
the
type
of
people
they
are
to
work
with
anybody.
They
can.
H
Q
M
F
G
A
I
seriously
doubt
that
you
have
anything
to
worry
about.
The
reason
I
put
in
was
two
years
because
we
have
to
put
a
time
limit
on
it
and
I
put
on
two
years
that
sample
time
for
any
serious
complaint
to
come
out
and,
like
I've
told
you,
our
building
office
now
sends
out
if
you'd
like
to
get
an
extension.
Just
come
back,
make
your
case
and
in
all
likelihood,
it'll
be
extended.
A
H
A
A
We
do
have
to
take
a
minute
or
two
what
new
board
members
think
about
starting
changing
our
starting
time
from
6
30,
to
say,
for
example,
six
o'clock
or
10
minutes
after
the
planned
Commission
meeting.
If
they
go
beyond
six
okay,.