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From YouTube: Historic District Board of Review- May 27, 2022
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Historic District Board of Review- May 27, 2022
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Okay,
I
see
here
that
on
page
1987
is
that
a
correct
page
number?
Okay,
you
have
my
comments.
There
are
actually
the
the
same
comments
that
I
made
on
the
previous
property.
So
it's
just
a
duplication.
I
don't
remember
what
I
said,
but
it
wasn't
that
because
that's
what
I
said
probably
10
minutes
before
that
sure.
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Excellent,
so
everyone
can
see
the
screen
all
right.
Great
is
this:
do
you
have
other
agenda
items
or
are
we
the
only
item?
Nope,
you
are
on
first
all
right,
okay,
we're
on
first
great.
So
thank
you
for
for
having
us
on
the
agenda.
I
could
say
that
this
was
a
fun
and
a
challenging
project.
We
had
a
lot
of
fun,
walking
around
madison,
seeing
everything
meeting
people
and
we're
glad
to
be
here,
providing
you
with
our
draft
final
report.
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Thank
you.
So
I
thought
what
I
would
do
real
quick
if
it's
okay
with
you,
the
call
on
that
is
to
go.
Do
a
brief
run
through
with
russka
narc
to
show
the
board
what
the
online
survey
looks
like
and
how
it
works.
Yes,
that
would
be
great
okay,
great
and
then,
after
that
we
have
a
short
presentation
to
go
over
the
report.
H
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This
is
the
digital
survey
platform,
basically,
that
we
used
it's
called
ruskin
arc,
and
it
is
something
that
we
subscribe
to
and
that
it
should
the
city
of
madison
wish
to
continue
using
it
and
adding
to
it
over
the
years.
It's
something
the
city
would
then
need
to
subscribe
to,
but
it's
an
annual
subscription.
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So
this
is
a
map
showing
all
of
the
survey
data
entries
each
one
of
these
blue
items
is
a
form
of
address
and
if
you
click
on
them,
you
can
get
a
little
quick
overview
of
what
that
property
is.
If
you
want
to
go
deeper
into
information,
you
can
open
it
and
it
will
show
a
summary
of
the
property
and
obviously
the
linear
mansion
has
a
lot
of
information
with
it.
H
There
are
a
lot
of
photos
going
with
this
particular
resource
over
here.
There's
a
google
map
that
shows
you
the
location
of
the
property
and
then
down
here
is
the
summary
of
information
that
comes
from
the
data
fields
that
we
entered
information
into
and
the
historical
summary
historical
summary
is
listed
here.
H
Historic
name,
architect,
style
and
building
type
is
necessary,
and
then
over
here
you
can
attach
documents
to
each
form.
If
there
is
a
document,
that's
related.
So
this
is
actually
the
national
historic
landmark
nomination
report
that
you
can
open
as
a
pdf,
and
then
this
is
the
architectural
description.
H
Certain
people
who
have
the
password
to
log
in
can
actually
edit
forms,
but
when
the
public
can
review
this,
there
would
be
no
edit
edit
button,
but
just
to
show
you
quickly
the
it
contains
information
on
the
setting
and
landscape.
These
are
all
the
fields
where
all
the
information
was
entered
and
there's
information
on
the
function
and
use
the
designation
as
well
as
accessory
structures,
condition
integrity
as
well
as
who
surveyed
it
and
when
and
if
it
was
previously
surveyed
and
what
there's
a
information
here
on
the
survey
forum
from
2002.
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So
then
we
talk
about
the
survey
approach
and
we
walked
the
entire
local
district.
We
photographed
each
property
from
the
public
right-of-way
and
the
the
the
type
of
survey
we're
doing.
It's
mainly
called
a
it's,
mainly
a
reconnaissance
survey,
and
so
that
is
not
an
in-depth
intensive
survey
where
you
conduct
a
lot
of
research
and
background
information.
H
H
H
H
Not
just
is
it
looking
good,
but
does
it
have
historic
integrity,
physical
integrity?
Is
it
store,
exciting
historic
windows,
things
like
that?
That
would
give
it
an
excellent
rating
versus
does
it
have
maybe
vinyl
siding
for
vinyl
windows?
Then
it
would
be
either
good
or
fair,
depending
on
the
amount
of
alteration
and
then
poor
means
there's
a
lot
of
deterioration
or
changes
and
a
few
a
few
properties
were
considered
ruined
because
some
of
the
building
walls
may
have
been
collapsing
or
roofing
or
open
to
the
elements.
I
I
I
The
first
on
there
is
indigenous
people,
a
pre-settlement
which
really
doesn't
apply.
Whoever
lived
here
before
white
europeans
showed
up
they're.
You
know,
I
don't
think
we
even
have
any
archaeological
sites,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
so
really
where
we
start
kind
of
with
the
early
settlement
from
1806
through
about
the
ninth
1820s
and
there's
there's
actually
a
surprising
number
of
buildings
that
date
from
that.
One
thing
I
would
sort
of
caution
is
that,
because
this
is
still
a
reconnaissance
survey,
we
didn't
do
in-depth
research.
I
So
we
generally
would
give
a
circuit
date
and
it's
kind
of
a
maybe
a
decade
range
we
might
say.
Well,
we
think
this
is
from
the
1820s
or
you
might
say
it's
from
the
1890s
it
may
vary.
You
know
we
may
be
wrong
if
somebody
did
a
little
more
research
or
homeowners
said
hey.
I
got
documentation
that
this
was
built
a
decade
earlier
or
something
like
that.
So
it's
very
possible.
The
reason
I
bring
this
up
now
is
because
it's
very
possible
that
we
have
buildings
classified
as
dated
as
1830s
or
1840s.
I
They
might
even
be
from
the
1820s.
We
just
didn't
have
the
documentation
to
know
that
for
sure
a
big
one
is
town
of
industry
and
culture
which
ranges
through
the
1820s
through
the
1850s
as
madison
is
really
growing.
It's
got
it's
a
riverboat
community
and
it's
you
know.
We
see
a
number
of
industrial
buildings
from
that
era,
then
you
have
the
post
civil
war
from
the
1860s
through
the
1890s,
which
you
know
arguably
might
be
sort
of
the
high
point
in
madison's
history
of
economic
status.
I
You
know
before
it
was
sort
of
the
riverboat
era,
ended
and
and
madison
had
been
sort
of
bypassed
by
railroads.
So
there's
a
lot
of
buildings
from
this
era
and
that
relate
to
this
theme
because
of
the
the
sort
of
wealth
that
existed
in
madison
at
that
time.
On
a
lot
of
the
italian
eight
style,
buildings,
homes
and
commercial
buildings
date
from
that
era,
then
we
have
the
early
20th
century
development
so
from
1900
through
the
end
of
the
period
of
significance
of
the
1940s
kind
of
a
broad
range.
I
There's
still
some
very
significant
resources
from
the
early
20th
century,
both
architecturally
and
and
then
there
is
a
period
of
mid
to
late
20th
century,
which
would
fall
outside
the
period
of
significance.
But
is
still
worthy
of
knowing
you
know.
1950
cutoff
is
now
1972,
which
you
know
of
those
of
us
of
a
certain
age
are
dealing
with
personally,
but
there's
you
know,
50
years
is
the
normal
cutoff
for
for
sort
of
what
is
considered
to
be
historic.
I
There
is
that
span
of
the
mid-century
era
in
the
20th
century
era
that
that
you
all
as
a
community,
might
want
to
be
looking
at
as
potential
future
issues
to
deal
with
and
a
really
key
one
and
something
that
is
a
more
recent
scholarship
really
in
the
last
couple
of
decades,
is
the
sort
of
abolition,
the
underground
railroad
theme
of
history.
That
mattis
was
important
to
madison
in
the
georgetown
neighborhood
and
doug
mentioned
a
little
bit
where
we
had
some
historical
information.
I
We
sometimes
added
that
in
that's
a
good
case
here,
where
we
had
some,
you
know
some
of
the
documentation
that
research
that's
been
done
recently
on
the
underground
railroad.
We
try
to
add
that
into
some
of
the
georgetown
properties,
where
we
know
architects,
builders,
sculptors
and
even
others
like
significant.
You
know
owners
or
persons
associated
with
a
property.
We
did
add
those
in
many
were
already
added
in
as
part
of
the
previous
survey.
Obviously
somebody
like
francis
costigan
or
whatever
there
were
a
few
cases.
I
I
So
kind
of
the
sort
of
big
thing
that
most
people
are
interested
in
in
the
architectural
survey
or
the
styles
and
forms.
I
there's
a
little
more
of
a
breakdown
in
the
report
that
you
can
go
through
to
understand
some
of
the
different
architectural
styles,
as
well
as
the
architectural
forms.
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
a
lot
of
detail
on
that,
but
I
wanted
to
give
you
just
a
quick
overview.
I
So
everybody
kind
of
understands,
there's,
there's
two
different
things:
there's
the
architectural
vernacular
form
of
a
building
which
is
easy
enough
to
think
of
is
the
sort
of
box
of
a
building
right.
What
is
what's
the
type
of
box
that
it
is,
and
then
you
can
a
builder
or
an
architect
could
apply
a
style
to
that
box,
and
so
not
all
buildings
have
a
style
and
that's
something
that
we
deal
with
all
the
time
in
surveys
and
and
in
preservation.
Is
people
like
what
style
is
my
house
and
well?
I
I
Is
that
even
a
lot
of
the
vernacular
shotgun
houses
had
architectural
styles
applied
to
them
and
they're
still
there
that
often,
if
they
were
there
historically,
because
they
were
worker
class
housing?
You
know
people
didn't
have
necessarily
the
money
to
keep
them
up
over
many
many
decades,
and
it's
you
know
when
it
comes
things
were
out
of
the
way
they
just
took
them
off
and
never
replaced
it.
I
The
the
amount
of
spindle
work,
porches
and
barge
board
on
the
ease
and
other
trim
and
decorative
elements
is
really
amazing
to
see
it's,
it's
an
incredible
resource
that
madison
has
so
anyway.
Let
me
start
with
architectural
forms.
We
identified
38
different
types
of
forms
and
in
our
report
we
we
sort
of
defined
20
of
them
the
most
common
and
most
significant
ones.
I
The
most
common
one
is
really
just
vernacular
and
vernacular
just
means
it
has
no
style.
It's
just
a
very
plain
box.
Essentially,
but
then
there's
one
called
single
double
pile
and
most
often
you'll
see
it
is
either
one
third
or
two
thirds
and
I'm
not
sure
if
everybody
fully
understands
what
that
is,
it's
a
little
complicated.
But
if
you
think
about
pile
as
room,
then
a
double
pile
or
soup.
Let
me
start
with
a
single.
I
I
You
see
that
in
there
a
double
pile
house
be
the
same
thing:
central
entry
hall
room
on
each
side,
but
it'll
be
two
rooms
deep,
and
so
what
a
one-third
and
a
two-third
is,
what
a
what
a
two-thirds
double
pile
house
is.
Is
it
has
the
room
on
one
side
and
it
has
the
entry
hall,
but
it
doesn't
have
the
next
room
on
the
other
side.
So
it's
two
of
the
three
elements
from
one
side
to
the
other,
and
if
it's
a
single
pile,
a
two-thirds
single
pile
is
just
one
room
deep.
I
If
it's
a
two-thirds
double
pile,
it's
two
rooms
deep
and
then
a
one-third
means.
It
doesn't
have
the
entry
hall
it
just.
You
enter
right
into
the
room
itself,
and
so
you
just
have
of
those
three
elements:
side
by
side,
room
tall
room.
It
just
has
the
room
and
the
entry
opens
straight
into
that
same
thing.
If
it's
one
room
deep,
it's
a
one-third
single
pile.
I
What's
listed
here,
a
two-part
commercial
block
simply
refers
to
the
fact
that
there's
a
sort
of
storefront
element
that's
one
apart
and
then
there
would
be
an
upper
floor,
usually
residential,
maybe
office.
That's
the
second
part.
You'll
also
see
sometimes
one
part
commercial
block,
and
that
means
it's
just
a
one-story
storefront.
It
doesn't
have
the
second
part
on
top.
I
For
you,
the
most
common
for
sure
is
the
federal
style
which
was
very
popular
in
the
from
really
the
1820s
through
about
the
1840s
and
then
it
begins
to
fade
and
get
replaced
by
the
greek
revival
style
and
then
pretty
quickly.
The
italianate
style,
which
I'll
talk
about
in
a
moment
in
federal
style.
This
could
be
really
high-end
style.
The
shrewsbury
house,
with
you,
know
a
fan
light
over
the
door
and
you.
M
I
Really
nice
masonry,
brick
work
and
so
forth
class
usually
somewhat
classical
details,
but
very
often
most
of
these
were
just
a
a
little
bit
of
stylization
applied
to
the
vernacular
form.
If
we're
thinking
about
like
a
two-thirds
or
one-third
pile
house,
it
might
have
a
nice
entryway
with
maybe
side
lights
and
a
transom.
I
So,
instead
of
just
a
brick
dental
course,
they
might
have
had
a
flat
in
tablature
fascia
board
below
that,
and
usually
also
a
more
elaborate
entablature
casing
around.
The
doorway
with
with
a
fancy
pie,
lasters
and
you
know,
sort
of
a
tablature
header
above
that
maybe
a
little
something
over
the
windows,
maybe
not,
and
sometimes
there's
a
real
melding
between
the
two
between
federal
and
greek
and,
of
course,
you've
got
some
really
high
style.
I
Greek
revival
like
the
lanier
mansion
or
forgetting
the
name
of
the
church,
but
on
third
street
fantastic.
You
know
greek
revival,
church
there
and
then
the
other
most
common
style
that
we
found
was
italianate,
and
that
became
very
popular
really
in
the
1870s
and
1880s,
and
we
would
see
that
both
on
new
construction,
both
houses
and
commercial
buildings.
I
But
quite
often
we
would
see
a
remodeling
of
an
earlier,
maybe
1840s
house
or
commercial
building,
that
I
we
sort
of
affectionately
known
as
it
would
get
italianated
in
the
1870s
as
they
people
would
get
wealthy.
You
know
might
want
to
modernize
improve,
so
they
would
add
window
decorative
window
hoods,
a
more
decorative
cornice
with
brackets
and
moldings
and
so
forth.
So
that
was
a
really
popular
thing
and
then
not
it.
H
I
In
here,
but
you'll
see
in
your
list
are
quite
a
few
other
architectural
styles.
Whether
colonial
revival
classical
revival,
you
know-
is
there
some
great
arts
and
crafts
style,
bungalows
and
buildings
houses
in
the
in
the
early
20th
century
as
well,
so
that
kind
of
gives
a
good
overview
of
the
sort
of
forms
and
styles
and
how
we
apply
those,
and
sometimes
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
judgment
call.
But
we
try
to
be
pretty
consistent
about
that
right.
K
I
was
looking
for
my
mouth.
Sorry,
everybody,
okay!
I
know
we've
got
10
minutes,
so
I'll
go
through
these
really
quickly.
This
information
is
in
the
report,
but
just
a
very
brief
summary
of
findings.
Overall,
the
historic
integrity
of
the
district
is
really
outstanding.
Buildings
retain
their
form,
exterior
materials,
roof
forms,
cornices,
brackets
dentals,
barge
porches
spindle
work
with
doors
and
windows
and
around
the
house.
Many
historic
homes
and
buildings
have
their
historic
fences.
K
So,
having
said
that,
there
have
been
changes.
Changes
most
often
include
the
replacement
of
windows,
which
is
very,
very
common,
often
with
vinyl,
often
with
vinyl,
with
the
applied
tape,
mountains
to
simulate
divided
lights,
so
that
was
very,
very
common.
In
a
few
cases,
the
new
windows
don't
fit.
The
original
openings.
You
can
see
that
the
window
is
smaller
than
the
original
opening.
K
Sometimes
removal
of
porches
or
quartz
decoration,
like
spindle,
work,
the
removal
of
forage
board
or
brackets
the
removal
of
those
really
beautiful,
pierced,
attic
vents
that
are
all
over
the
city.
Some
of
those
have
been
removed
or
covered
over
removal
of
some
of
those
ion
fences,
replacement,
doors,
hovering
over
or
removing
the
transom
windows.
Over
the
doors
we
saw
those
that
that
was
the
change
replacement
of
historic,
slight
roofing,
with
asphalt,
shingles
and
also
removal
of
chimneys.
K
So
those
are
just
some
of
the
changes
that
we
saw
as
we
were
surveying
and
as
far
as
what
types
of
properties
are
vulnerable
to
alteration
or
even
loss,
those
are
construct.
Usually
those
are
going
to
be
the
houses
constructed
as
worker
housing,
including
that
shotgun
form
that
that
doug
was
talking
about
owners
of
these
homes.
K
K
Those
neighborhoods
are
critically
important
to
the
to
the
historic
vitality
and
character
of
madison
and
those
are
the
folks
less
able
to
have
the
resources
for
these
kinds
of
repairs
and
update
upgrades
so
reaching
out
to
low
income
areas
and
providing
workshops.
I
know
historic
madison
provides
workshops
and
it's
an
incredible.
K
The
work
they
do
is
really
incredible,
but
for
those
low-income
families
they
can't
afford
that
50
enrollment.
In
a
window,
repair
workshop
so
reaching
out
to
those
those
folks
prioritize
properties
identified
as
endangered
for
maintenance
and
rehab
through
the
preservation
and
community
enhancement,
grant
program
continued
to
survey
properties
within
madison,
either
not
previously
surveyed
to
identify
locally
significant
historic
properties
and
areas
that
may
be
eligible
for
the
national
register
for
first
places
or
eligible
as
a
local
landmark.
K
K
Could
uncover
some
of
that
information?
You
know,
there's
there's
other
ideas
in
the
report
about
you
know
collaborating
with
other
groups
or
student
groups
that
might
be
interested
in
helping
with
that
research
and
sort
of
filling
in
some
of
those
gaps,
those
knowledge
gaps.
So
that's
a
that's
a
brief
overview
of
our
findings
and
recommendations.
K
K
We
really
congratulate
you
on
your
work
and
your
achievements
and
the
commitment
that
this
community
has
to
preservation.
Everyone
we
talked
to
was
excited
about
this
project,
no
matter
what
neighborhood
you're
in
and-
and
so
we
really
encourage
you
and
congratulate
you
on
this
on
this
work.
So
thank
you
very
much.
I
Yeah
and
if
I
could
just
add
I
didn't
before,
for
those
who
don't
know-
my
parents
lived
in
madison
in
the
1990s,
they
ran
a
bed
and
breakfast
at
the
shushler
house,
and
I
hadn't
been
back
since
they
had
sold
it
and
moved
out
of
town
in
the
early
2000s,
so
almost
20
years
or
a
little
over
20
years,
and
it
was
really
exciting
for
me
to
come
back
and
see
the
architecture
again.
I
just
I
used
to
love
to
come
down
and
visit
them
and
it
was.
It
was
a.
I
H
G
H
Nicole,
can
I
ask
if
you
hold
until
I
send
you
a
revised
report,
which
I
can
do
today
or
I
can
do
that
tomorrow?
Yep!
That's
no
problem,
because
we
we've
been
going
back
since
we
submitted
the
report
on
the
20th,
we've
been
going
back
and
just
double
checking
a
lot
of
the
forms,
and
just
some
of
the
number
overall
numbers
have
changed
in
the
report
in
terms
of
how
many
forms
or
how
many
styles
of
each
one
is.
H
G
A
A
Then
we'll
give
the
audience
a
chance
to
come
up
and
voice
any
concerns
or
support
for
the
application.
And
then
we
will
come
back
to
the
board
and
we
will
do
a
findings
of
fact
on
the
application,
which
is
basically
going
through
our
guidelines
and
deciding
whether
or
not
it
meets
or
does
not
meet
the
guidelines.
And
after
that
point
we
will
take
a
vote
on
whether
or
not
the
application
will
get
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
which
will
then
give
you
the
opportunity
to
or
not
to
continue
on
with
your
work.
B
B
B
O
O
I
took
the
chimney
down
because
she
couldn't
afford
to
pay
4
500
to
repair
the
chimney.
The
molding
on
the
front
that
I've
got
it
scheduled
to
be
put
back
on,
but
it
was
actually
painted.
Plywood
is
what
it
was
and
it
more
or
less
fell
off
as
was
working
on
it
and
we
removed
the
remainder
of
what
did
not
fall
off.
O
O
I
know
for
a
fact
that
it
did
not
come
with
shingles
on
it
and
I
found
that
it
had
slate
in
the
attic
we
we
did
find
some
a
remnants
of
metal
on
it
at
some
point
of
time.
I
don't
know
when
metal
was
ever
on
it,
but
I
know
I
did
do
my
research
enough
to
know
that
it
was
originally
built
with
slate,
so
that
parts
I
know.
J
O
O
D
So
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out
tonight,
as
we
saw
in
the
report,
that
our
historic
district
is
more
than
just
main
street.
It's
also
almost
the
entire
residential
area
downtown.
So
we,
you
know,
always
need
to
follow
the
guidelines.
We
need
to
submit
an
application,
just
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
so
you
know
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
going
forward
anybody
that
wants
to
make
those
type
of
exterior
changes
has
to
follow
that
process.
Q
O
O
D
Sure,
starting
with
the
roof
on
the
residential
guidelines,
pages
53
and
54.,
I
believe
we
were
told
that
the
existing
roof
was
asphalt
and
it
was
changed
out
to
the
fastener
type
metal
roof.
So,
as
we
heard
today
in
a
report
and
also
in
our
guidelines,
original
roof
forms
should
be
preserved
and
maintained.
D
You
know,
I
think
you
mentioned
that
it
probably
had
been
slayed
at
one
time
and
then
asphalt
it's
important
to
try
to
maintain
what
we
have
and
it
sounds
like.
We've
had
several
different
styles
on
this
house
of
roofing
historic
roof
materials
such
as
standing,
seam,
clay,
tiles
or
slate
should
be
repaired
or
preserved,
and
if
the
repair
is
no
longer
practical
replacement
with
appropriate
materials
is
allowed.
D
O
D
D
D
Q
J
D
O
D
Okay-
and
I
I
feel
that
you
know,
since
you
are
putting
that
back
up,
that
is
in
conformance
with
our
guidelines,
especially
I
believe
you
mentioned.
The
other
was
just
plywood,
which
probably
was
a
replication
of
maybe
the
original.
Who
knows
how
many
generations
have
gone
down,
so
I'm
I
feel
fine
with
that
one
and
then
chimneys
boy.
D
You
know
this
is
a
big
one,
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
different
perspectives
on
chimneys
in
the
community.
However,
as
we
heard
today,
they
are
critical
to
the
overall
architectural
appearance
and
that
looking
at
that
chimney,
it
looked
like
it
didn't
need
that
point
and
it
looked
like
maybe
the
first
two
courses
of
bricks
were
not
at
all
attached
and
were
just
stacked
up
there,
but
it
should
be,
it
should
have
been
restored
and
not
taken
down
so
that
one,
I
do
not
believe
is
in
compliance
with
our
guidelines.
P
C
O
Yes,
sir,
well
with
respect
the
house
was
leaking
water
in
the
rear
edition
and
the
new
owner
had
bought
it.
They
called
me
down
to
assess
the
situation
and
they
had
a
dead
valley
coming
in.
I
told
him
at
that
time.
I'd
agreed
to
put
a
new
roof
on
it
and
the
way
the
dead
valley
came
in.
It
was
almost
really
difficult
to
get
this
shingle
to
go
in
there
and
guarantee
it
not
to
leak.
O
O
O
I
should
have
should
have
knew
or
should
ask,
but
here
it
is
I'm
coming
here
with
my
hat
in
my
hand,
saying
I
was
wrong,
but
the
chimney
thing
realistically,
if
I
knew
the
chimney,
was
bad,
I
would
have
brought
it
to
the
owner
before
that.
I
would
even
started
the
roof
and
told
the
owner
on
the
front
side
of
it
going
into
it.
Saying
hey.
This
is
gonna
be
another.
O
C
O
L
I
appreciate
you
coming
in,
I
think,
as
far
as
getting
approval
ahead
of
time.
It's
it
it's
not
better
to
ask
for
forgiveness
in
this
situation,
it's
better
to
get
approval
ahead
of
time.
I
think
that's
what
you'll
do
in
the
future,
because
you're
a
very
conscientious
builder,
I've
seen
you
seen
your
work.
L
L
L
You've
got
to
either
put
faux
brick
or
you
know,
paint
it
paint
it
to
look
like
it's
brick,
so
I
think
that's
a
tough
one
and
I
think
you're
putting
back
the
barge
boards
a
good
sign
of
good
faith
on
your
part
using
poplar
wood,
not
using
the
plywood's,
a
good
sign
too,
because
you
know
what
will
happen
with
plywood
it
ain't
gonna
last
yeah
sure.
So
I
appreciate
it
and
I
appreciate
you
being
in
here.
A
I
want
to
echo
owens
comments,
not
pleased
that
you're
doing
what
you're
doing.
I
understand
you're
here
you
know
facing
the
music
as
mike
said,
but
coming
in
after
the
fact-
and
I
think
taking
down
the
chimney
was
pretty
significant.
I
think
you
knew
it
and
I
think
you
know
at
least
getting
the
building
inspector
to
come
and
say
hey.
This
is
pretty
bad
and
you
know
what
do
you
think
would
have
been
another
step
that
could
have
been
taken
before
it
happened.
So
with
that.
P
N
P
A
C
A
A
C
E
J
B
E
B
B
B
E
D
A
Not
approve
so
the
chimney
is
not
approved.
You
will
not
get
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
on
that,
so
we'll
have
to
come
up
with
a
solution
to
this,
which
may
mean
putting
a
chimney
back
whether
it
may
be
a
faux
chimney
or
something,
but
you
know
I
would
expect
that
you
work
with
brook
on
this
to
try
to
come
back
with
a
solution.
E
A
B
S
The
the
original
house
itself
is
brick.
There
was
an
addition
made
several
years
before
we
bought
it
on
the
side
of
it
for
on
east
side
for
a
kitchen,
and
the
kitchen
has
composite
siding
on
it.
So
this
addition
will
be
in
the
same
dimension
as
the
kitchen
addition
going
backwards
going
north
on
the
property
and
we'll
have
the
same
siding
as
what
the
addition
has
not
on
the
original
building.
So
it's
going
to
make
that
clear,
it'll
match
where
it's
hooking
into
the
house,
the
roof
will
be
the
same.
S
It's
a
it's,
a
new
addition
we're
the
current
house
has
one
bathroom
in
it
and
we
thought
it
would
be
a
lot
more
convenient
to
have
a
second
bathroom.
The
laundry
room
is
in
the
kitchen,
it's
a
small
house,
so
we
wanted
to
move
the
laundry
room
out
to
this
other
room
as
well.
It's
a
combination
room,
it's
a
single
room,
but
it'll
have
two
purposes
for
having
this
addition
to
it.
S
I've
had
everything
completed
for
the
building
permit,
except
approval
from
this
board,
which
I
hope
to
get
tonight,
and
I
have
to
get
an
estimate
from
the
contractor.
Can
do
maintenances
agreed
to
be.
You
know
to
do
the
work
later
on,
probably
august
or
september
this
summer.
If
we
get
off
and
get
approved,
yeah
understand.
So
that's
that's
where
we
stand
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I
did
come
before
you
once
and
I
put
a
new
porch
on
and
I
should
have
brought.
I
got
pictures
of
my
phone.
S
S
E
C
S
S
A
C
C
C
I
would
like
to
encourage
that
you
put
a
real
wood
window
in
there,
whether
it
be
straight
wood
or
aluminum,
clad,
so
that
then,
when
those
vinyl
windows
start
sagging
and
dying
which
they
will
do,
we
go
back
the
other
direction
we
like
why
hopefully
eventually
get
this
house
where
it'll
have
all
high
quality
windows
in
it.
Yeah.
S
L
E
E
D
A
A
I
do
understand
that
you
know
there's
a
need,
for
you
know
some
aluminum,
clad
and
so
forth,
but
you
know
we're
looking
at
other
materials
ourselves
too,
so
I
don't
want
to
get
too
worked
up
on
it,
although
at
this
point
it
isn't
in
the
guidelines
for
us
to
approve
vinyl
windows,
and
so
it
becomes
a
point
of
contention.
Certainly
so.
A
D
Based
on
the
preceding
findings,
the
fact
I
moved
that
madison
district
board
of
review
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
david,
cheatham
and
amy
eberwein
for
the
proposed
project
to
build
a
15
by
12
frame
edition
on
a
concrete
slab
foundation
to
the
rear
of
the
house,
integrating
the
roof
into
the
existing
roof
structure
and
using
the
same
shingles
as
on
the
house
and
and
also
to
match.
I'm
sorry
using
the
same
shingles
on
the
house
with
composite
siding
to
match
what
is
already
there
located
at
816
west
first
street.
D
Subject,
however,
to
the
conditions
specified
in
the
findings
of
fact,
stating
that
vinyl
windows
are
not
appropriate
at
this
point,
and
I
don't
feel
that
we
can
approve
it.
And
if
you
can
go
ahead
and
you
know
actually
replace
with
wood
or
aluminum
clad
wood,
then
I
think
that
we
can
move
ahead
with
this
project.
But
that
is
subject
to
those
that
condition
for
me.
I'll
go.
A
A
A
D
A
But
you
know
the
application
is
for
vinyl.
So
I'm
just
wanting
to
make
sure
with
your
emotion.
You
know,
because
that's
you're,
you're
kind
of
impre,
you
know
saying
hey
the
project's
all
approved,
except
for
the
violence.
You're,
not
you're,
basically
making
a
motion
not
to
approve
the
project.
The
way
it
is.
A
D
D
A
A
S
J
L
A
A
A
D
Okay,
I'll
reread
it
based
on
the
preceding
findings
of
fact,
I
move
that
the
madison
history,
historic
district
board
of
review,
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
david
cheatham
and
abe
amy
eberwein
for
the
proposed
project
to
build
a
15
by
12
foot
frame
edition
on
a
concrete
slab
foundation
at
the
rear
of
the
house,
integrating
the
new
roof
into
the
existing
roof
and
using
the
same
shingles
as
on
that
currently
on
the
house
to
match
the
existing
okay
house
period.
We
won't
talk
about
the
windows
located
at
816
west
first
street
yeah.
E
N
A
M
N
A
All
right,
so
you
can
go
forward
with
the
vinyl
windows.
Of
course
you
can
always
change
your
mind.
If
you
wanted
to
to
look
at
aluminum,
clad
or
wood,
I
would
just
inform
brooke
that's
what
you
were
doing,
because
obviously
that's
going
to
be
that'll
fit
more.
What
the
guy
wants
to
say
is
on
a
material
list.
E
B
B
T
T
T
So
we
proceeded
along
with
doing
that
after
about
three
or
four
months
that
that
next
summer
of
14
it
was
still
way
too
hot.
So
we
we
put
a
metal
roof
on
top
of
it
to
to
keep
the
sun
completely
off
of
it.
Last
summer
found
some
deteriorated
pieces
in
in
in
the
wood,
so
I
probably
had
some
bad
treated
lumber.
I
guess
I
don't
know
so.
I
came
down
to
city
hall
in
march
and
said
you
know
we're
going
to
replace
some
of
the
wood,
maybe
all
of
it.
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T
A
T
E
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T
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T
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L
L
B
B
B
B
T
T
The
beam
is
has
bolts
in
it.
You
know
it's
bolted
into
the
wall,
not
into
the
siding
wall,
but
so
I'm
not
quite
for
sure,
and
I
never
really
was
too
concerned
with
the
slope
of
it.
It's
probably
a
112
pitch,
but
it's
there
there's
no
ceiling,
there's
no
anything
to
it.
It's
it's
just
a
metal
roof.
It's
been
that
way
for
eight
years.
There's.
D
T
T
R
D
S
Across
the
street,
from
them
jackie
and
randy,
I've
known
them
since
high
school,
they
take
very
good
care
of
their
property
and
make
sure
everything's
done
thoroughly.
I've
seen
the
back
of
it
from
the
road.
I
haven't
gone
up
right
next
to
it,
but
it
looks
fine,
it's
done
real.
Well,
I
don't
think
there's
any
problems
from
what
I
can
see
living
in
the
neighborhood,
so
I
support
their
application.
B
C
C
Smaller
and
simpler,
compatible
design,
it
certainly
looks
compatible
with
the
original
design.
It's
consistent.
Okay,
sorry,
roof
shape.
Okay,
at
least
it
says:
roof
shaped
materials
color
like
similar
to
what
was
there.
The
position
is
hardly
changed
at
all,
there's
an
imitator
earlier
I
mean
this
really.
E
L
A
And
I
agree
with
mike
on
this.
I
think
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
different
one
for
us,
because
it
was
already
there
and
although
it
never
made,
got
a
permit
in
2013-14
this
point
time
it
now
becomes
kind
of
more
replaceable.
But
I
also
understand
too
why
it's
under
new
construction,
because
it
didn't
have
that
on
record.
So
all
right
with
that
I'll
accept
a
motion.
C
E
Q
A
All
right,
mr
reagan,
spiller
without
you
will
get
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
in
the
mill
for
it.
I
would
suggest
that
for
the
public
comment
that
was
made
that
you'll
pass
possibly
dang,
this
may
be
my
mic,
possibly
get
a
the
building
inspector
to
take
a
look
to
see
about
the
drainage
and
make
sure
that
you
know
it's
draining
appropriately.
So
maybe
so
it's
not
affecting
a
neighbor's
wall.
That
might
be
the
best
thing
to
do
with.
A
B
B
B
V
V
V
U
A
A
True,
I
mean,
and
so
obviously
the
lp
smart
sign
much
nicer
it.
It
creates
a
much
better
look,
it's
longer
lasting.
It
certainly
makes
for
the
house.
I
just
have
to
bring
up
obviously
doing
something
before
you
get
approval,
because
you've
heard
it
already,
I'm
sure,
as
you
were
sitting
there,
that's
right.
Yes,
so
any
other
questions
from
the
board
there's
just
the
other.
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Page
663
again
windows
are
prominent
building
components
again.
That
front
window,
I
think,
was
an
issue
before
you
started
on
it.
That's
huge
and
I
think
you
you're
trying
to
make
it
where
it
it
makes
sense
right
now
what
you're
trying
to
do
again,
the
vinyl
seems
to
be
a
difference
of
opinion
on
the
board.
So
I'll
leave
that,
to
my
other,
my
patriarchs,
to
talk
to
you
about
that.
But
I
see
no
issue
with
the
window
and
again,
I
think
the
replacing
it
was
probably
a
a
good
idea.
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L
Page
39
is
where
they
are
the
findings
of
fact
there.
Basically,
we
don't
like
you
changing
doors
and
entrances
very
much,
but
again,
I
think,
based
on
the
way
this
house
sat
and
what
you
did
to
it.
I
think
it
makes
sense
what
you
did
with
putting
the
door
up
there
where
it
is
so.
I
have
no
issue
with
where
you
put
the
door.
E
P
E
A
And
I'll
agree
with
with
mike
I
mean
I,
I
don't
like
that.
It's
done
ahead
of
time
I
mean,
I
think,
you've
already
heard
me
state
my
comments
on
it.
I
think
you're
trying
to
do
a
lot
of
things
correct.
Sometimes
when
you're
doing
this,
for
you
know
the
first
time
and
trying
to
get
advice
from
people,
you
get
some
bad
advice
from
some
and
then
others,
but
you
know
I
would
say
this
because
it's
on
record
you
know
come
to
the
city
hall.
A
They
you
know
brooks
only
bit
two
heads
off
as
I
that
I
know
of
and
other
than
that
everybody
else
has
survived.
So
you
know
they
give
you
a
good
direction
here,
because
they
know
us.
They
know
what
the
guidelines
are
and
they're
gonna
give
you
some
good
advice
on
things,
so
I
think
you're
trying
to
make
the
house
look
nice,
I
think
even
the
door.
It
could
be
even
original
where
the
door
even
eventually
was
to
begin
with.
A
L
L
1107
west
maine
be
approved
as
submitted
based
on
the
fact
that,
unfortunately,
a
lot
of
the
work
was
already
done,
but
it
does
give
the
house,
I
think,
a
much
better
look
as
far
as
main
street
and
at
some
point
when
you,
when
you
decide
to
go
with
a
little
different
type
of
window
and
that
window
doesn't
serve
what
you
want
it
to
do.
Hopefully,
you'll
get
yoga
you'll
upgrade
the
window.
L
N
B
A
B
This
home
is
a
circa
1900,
gable.
L,
it
is
a
contributing
structure
in
the
historic
district
residential
zoning
area.
The
coa
request
is
to
build
a
24
foot
by
14
foot
addition
on
the
rear
of
the
home,
with
vinyl
siding
and
vinyl
windows
to
match
the
rest
of
the
home,
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
pictures
as
well.
X
B
X
O
X
Yeah,
the
entire
house
has
vinyl
siding
and
vinyl
windows
in
it,
so
we're
using
similar
material
not
to
not
to
distract
from
what
I'm
asking
for,
but
we
did
get
quotes
and
look
at
potentially
changing
to
a
different
siding
type
and
is
just
not
not
reasonable.
At
this
point
I
mean
I'm
being
quoted
a
third
of
what
we
paid
for
the
house
to
replace
the
settings.
X
D
J
D
E
P
A
D
Okay,
cool
based
on
the
preceding
findings.
The
fact
I
move
that
the
madison
historic
district
board
of
review
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
brandon
taylor
for
the
proposed
application
to
build
a
12
by
24
foot
edition
on
the
rear
of
the
house
with
four
vinyl
windows
and
vinyl
siding
to
match
existing
materials
on
the
rest
of
the
home.
This
home
is
located
at
1306,
west,
2nd
street.
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E
A
B
B
A
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B
A
A
M
E
AA
B
B
AA
E
AA
Q
AA
Bluff
because
it
is
a
little
bit
of
a
taller
structure,
we
probably
are
brook's
most
complicated
application
because
we
had
to
submit
an
either
or
plan
and
we're
asking
tonight
to
have
an
approval
on
plan
a
or
plan
b,
because
we're
still
having
a
hard
time
evaluating
being
able
to
get
sewer
to
that
lot.
Yeah.
AA
E
AA
And
we
in
doing
our
due
diligence,
figured
out
that
it
wasn't
real
obvious
that
we
could
get
sewer.
There
had
been
a
property
there
a
long
time
ago
that
we
think
that
lot's
probably
been
empty
for
20
22
years,
it's
just
grass
and
in
looking
for
the
sewer
hookup,
we
it
wasn't
obvious
and
the
only
way
right
now
would
be
there's
an
old
pipe.
That's
very
old
that
comes
underneath
those
two
connected
houses
next
to
it,
which
would
be
a
dangerous
thing
to
try
to
hook
onto
that.
AA
So
with
the
help
of
our
general
contractor
brian
martin
who's.
Here
he
can
answer
any
of
the
sewer
questions,
but
the
city
sewer
department
has
been
working
for
about
three
weeks,
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
hook
this
property
onto
the
sewer
line.
They've
been
doing,
some
digging
they've
had
a
lot
of
cameras
down
in
the
lines
and
we
we
haven't,
got
a
definitive
answer
yet
so
on
the
chance
that
it
was
not
feasible
to
get
sewer
or
not
cost
effective.
AA
Because
I
don't
really
know
I've
never
had
to
bring
sewer
to
our
property
we've
built
before
in
other
places,
but
not
knowing
what
it
would
cause
to
have
to
possibly
tear
up
the
street
and
bring
the
sewer
in.
We
decided.
Well.
If
we
were
no
matter
what
we
want
to
close
on
the
lot,
we
need
a
garage
and
if
we
had
to
do
without
sewer,
then
we
at
least
want
approval
for
the
garage.
So
we
resubmitted
a
second
plan
just
for
the
garage
which
really
does
not
need
sewer.
E
A
J
R
AA
D
R
The
two
yeah
yeah
there's
just
the
two
I
have
been
through
the
old
house
that
you
said,
was
torn
down
and
it
was
only
15
years
ago
because
I
haven't
I've,
only
lived
here
15
years
and
I
happened
to
walk
through
it.
It
was
in
deplorable
shape.
So
I
understand
why
it's
gone,
but
the
house
to
me
doesn't
fit
the
the
character
of
that
neighborhood.
How
did
how
did
you
decide
on
the
design?
Well,.
AA
What
I
determined
and
learned
was
that
I
I
thought
that
the
his
we
are
understanding
that's
in
the
historic
residential
district,
but
that
madison
would
allow
to
build
a
style
that
is
within
the
time
that
it's
built.
You
know
you
had
different
styles
of
houses
built
in
certain
eras
and
different
times,
and
that
since
now
we're
building
in
2022
in
a
modern
day,
it's
not
uncommon
to
have
a
more
modern
yeah.
C
As
does
the
department
of
the
interior,
I
mean
what
we
want
to
avoid
is
a
fake
old
house
right.
So,
if
you're
building
something
new
you'd
certainly
be
welcome
to
make
it
of
a
federal
style.
But
you
would
want
to
build
it
so
that
you
weren't
trying
to
pretend
or
or
you
know
that
it
was
old.
You
would
want
to
have
a
federal
style
that
was
obviously
new.
So
there's
nothing
wrong
with,
within
our
guidelines
or
the
department
of
interior
guidelines
about
putting
a
new
style
building
next
door
to
a
19th
century
style,
building,
yeah.
AA
AA
A
AA
C
A
B
B
However,
it
is
in
conformance
with
ordinance
151.34
of
the
historic
district
chapter,
a
through
e
g
I
and
j
of
the
ordinance,
because
the
proposed
building's
height
front,
facade
proportion
of
openings,
spacing
rhythm
voids
and
solids
rhythm
laws
of
continuity,
scale
and
materials.
Texture
are
compatible
with
surrounding
structures,
not
in
conformance
to
ordinance
151
34
f,
because
the
rhythm
of
a
front
entrance
or
porch
projection
is
not
compatible
with
surrounding
structures
because
of
the
proposed
front-facing
garage.
C
P
C
C
So
brooke
was
saying
you
know
that
the
negative
which
she
thinks
is
against
the
the
guidelines
is
that
front
for
the
the
garage
door
that
opens
right
on
to
presbyterian,
which
technically
is
against
the
guidelines.
On
the
other
hand,
across
the
street,
the
whole
block
is
nothing
but
that
so,
and
you
could
say
there
could
be
nothing
more
compatible
with
the
surrounding
structures,
because
you
got
more
of
that
than
anything
else
in
that
block.
D
J
AA
R
AA
AA
A
AA
W
AA
AA
F
J
AA
F
E
Y
I'm
running
currently
I'm
going
to
be
building
later,
but
when
you
walk
down
presbyterian,
there
are
several
garages
that
go
in
I'm
not
talking
about
across
the
street.
I'm
talking
about
on
the
same
side.
There's
two
garages,
then
there's
a
house
that
has
a
garage
at
the
back
that
comes
in
for
across
the
street,
so
theirs
isn't
the
first
one.
C
C
A
D
A
A
And
I
would
agree
for
the
same
reasons.
I
would
say
you
know,
on
the
roof
line.
It
seems
to
somewhat
match
to
me
like
other
homes,
on
the
ends
of
streets
like
that
that
don't
have
as
much
space.
You
know
you
see
just
that
that
single
pitch
like
that,
because
they
can't
get
another
side
so
going
from
the
garage
you
know
to
that
level,
I
would
say
it
somewhat
matches
what
I've
seen
a
lot
of.
A
C
E
A
A
A
B
M
M
M
A
A
L
I
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
that
you're
doing
there,
because
it's
going
to
give
you
additional
fire
escape.
I
think
that's
very,
very
you've
mentioned
that
in
your
application
and
it's
not
readily
visible
from
the
street.
Unless
we
have
a
blight
and
all
the
plants
die,
staircases
should
not
damage
architectural
features,
which
this
does
not
it's
been
totally
outside
staircases,
either
be
open
or
enclosed.
This
is
going
to
be
a
nice
open
one.
How
far
apart
your
spindle
is
going
to
be.
L
A
R
C
L
A
E
C
L
A
A
B
B
AB
Horse
tony
steinhardt,
director
of
economic
and
redevelopment
for
the
city
of
madison,
we
are,
we
are
asking
for
this
building
to
be
tore
down
as
part
of
the
gateway
enhancement
project
with
ready
dollars.
As
many
of
you
know,
the
ready
dollars
did
not
come
through
at
the
full
amount,
and
so
the
project
is
going
to
eliminate
the
comfort
station,
the
restrooms
that
were
initially
planned
for
this
block.
AB
A
AB
AB
AB
P
A
D
Demolition
pages,
71
and
72
demolition
may
be
appropriate
if
the
building
does
not
contribute
to
the
historic
character
of
the
district.
It
obviously
doesn't.
Applicants
for
demolition
should
explore
possibilities
for
selling
and
reusing
historic
buildings.
This
is
not
a
historic
building,
so
that's
not
relevant.
We
don't
need
to
moth
ball
it
because
it
is
not
historic.
D
Demolition
may
be
appropriate
if
denial
of
demolition
will
result
in
demonstrable
economic
hardship
on
the
owner.
That's
not
the
case
here,
and
demolition
by
neglect
occurs
when
the
building
is
allowed
to
deteriorate
through
a
lack
of
maintenance.
Again,
it's
not
a
historic
building.
It's
a
non-contributing
building
and
according
to
our
guideline
guidelines,
they
may
be
demolished
if
the
building
does
not
contribute
to
the
character
of
the
district,
and
I
think
it's
pretty
obvious
with
what
you
guys
are
doing
down
there.
What
we're
doing
it's
a
city
that
it
it
doesn't
contribute.
A
L
A
L
E
N
A
And
I
would
say
for
nicole
and
brooke
on
this,
I
know
they're
they're,
counting
how
many
demolitions
we
have
in
downtown.
Obviously
with
the
surveys,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
count
how
many
of
those
are
non-contributing
structures
as
well,
so
that
helps
with
understanding
that
of
the
72
that
were
demolished.
How
many
of
those
72
were
not
contributing,
because
it
would
be
a
good
portion
of
those
yeah.
G
G
J
AB
We're
teaming
with
the
indiana
arts,
commission
and
madison
area
arts
alliance
will
be
putting
out
a
request
for
the
indiana
artist
for
the
three-dimensional,
sculpture
that'll,
be
just
to
the
north
of
this
site.
So
it'll
be
a
nice
foreground
green
lawn
to
showcase
the
entry
into
madison
and
indiana.
A
A
P
P
P
N
D
AB
AB
These
don't
meet
ada,
there's
no
way
to
really
modify
those
and
with
the
improvements
that
we're
doing
at
crystal
beach,
there's
additional
bathrooms
that
are
being
added
that
can
be
used
at
times
for
the
public
when
those
are
open
and
there
are
currently
public
restrooms
two
blocks
away,
and
so
we're
asking
for
these
to
be
tore
down.
They
don't
need
a
code
or
or
ada
and
then
we'll
ultimately
be
replacing
that
with
landscaping
and
some
other
improvements
associated
with
the
area.
J
E
C
C
C
AB
A
A
B
B
P
A
E
E
L
J
E
E
B
C
C
G
A
E
L
B
L
L
L
B
A
J
C
L
A
L
E
AA
L
N
M
B
A
B
A
L
B
A
D
D
L
J
A
A
M
A
A
N
B
E
F
A
F
That
we
do
a
thorough
structures
thing
whatever
to
make
sure
it.
It
was
built
modern
and
is
not
the
actual
property
of
the
underground
railroad
conductor.
So
dendrochronology
we
have
folks
at
hanover
that
do
that
at
least
get
photos
of
the
of
the
interior,
the
structure.
I
understand
that
it
is
not
in
a
good
condition.
I
appreciate
that,
but
we
have
got
to
document
it,
because
this
that
this
is
one
of
the
of
the
conductors
that
actually
made
georgetown.
N
F
F
D
C
G
B
F
F
C
F
L
L
L
Inspector
could
and
city
staff
could,
but
if
it's
an
unsafe
structure-
and
he
deems
it
so
every
day
that
building
stands
is
a
liability
for
not
only
who
goes
in
it,
but
also
the
city
and
anyone
around
it.
So
I
think
I
think
it's
real
important
that
it
happened
very
well.
You
want
this
certain
thing.
N
J
A
Right,
thank
you.
It's
definitely
noted.
Thank
you
any
other
new
business,
all
right
old
business.
We
do
have
some
things
on
there.
We
have
exist
or
we
have
design
guideline
updates
that
have
been
put
out
for
the
community
to
read
and
look
at
this
session
right
now
is
for
the
community
to
voice
in
the
cons.
You
know
concerns
support
comments.
They
have
over
the
the
the
proposed
design
guidelines.
A
We
will
not
as
a
board
answer
those
we
will
be
providing
our
comments
in
the
july
meeting
and
we
will
also
be
having
the
company
who
helped
us
draft
these
design
guidelines
come
into
our
july
meeting
as
well.
To
help
answer,
questions
provide
feedback
to
why
the
you
know
some
of
the
design
guy
or
actually
all
the
design
guidelines
they
put
in
so
there'll
be
a
more
comprehensive
meeting
next
time,
but
this
is
certainly
going
to
be
a
point
where
the
community
come
up.
You
can
ask
questions.
A
E
G
F
F
A
U
Three
years
ago,
the
board
had
three
open
meetings
where
we
talked
about
guidelines,
and
the
mayor
was
part
of
the.
The
rabble
mike
was
part
of
the
rabble
I
was,
and
josh
and
and
owen
were
the
only
board
members
here
and
nicole
was
commander
in
chief,
but
I
remember
two
things
that
came
up
often
and
that
the
mayor
was
very
emphatic
about
allies
having
equal
mention
with
the
streets
that
in
the
two
years
I
was
on
the
board.
I
never
had
a
cute
alley
come
into
play
in
any
of
the
applications.
U
U
That
the
anyone
who
wanted
to
build
stuff
had
tons
of
vinyl,
you
know
garages
next
door
and
across
and
there
was
never
something
or
it
was
a
commercial
alley.
Just
as
you
know,
our
back
ends
of
our
main
street
buildings
are
just
a
disaster,
and
so
to
me,
ally
should
not
be
have
the
same
consideration
as
streets.
U
U
Moving
on
solar,
we're
all
so
proud,
they
had
a
section
on
solar.
If
you
want
to
know
where
solar
is
going
very
quickly,
go
to
tesla,
solar
roofs,
so
every
illustration
they
have
under
the
residential
sections
ancient
technology
already
so
very
soon
the
individual
tiles
are
going
to
be
solar,
correct
collectors.
U
You
know
it's
going
to
totally
change
how
that
industry
should
anyone
ever
be
able
to
make
one
in
a
past.
You
know
get
it
away
from
the
chinese,
but
the
chimneys
say.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
chimneys.
So
what
we
discovered
when
jerome's
last
comment
as
a
board
member
in
my
daughter's
house
across
the
street,
is
that
we
have
all
these
modern
chimneys
in
town
and
there
needs
to
be
a
separate
section
on
forced
air
hvac
chimneys
from
the
70s
and
that's
how
all
that
that
chimney
was
40
to
50
years
old.
U
U
A
U
A
A
All
right
appreciate
it
and
I
pre.
We
appreciate
the
comments
from
from
the
the
public
and,
of
course
we
will
continue
to.
You
know
accept
comments
online
via
public
comments.
If
the
public
wants
to
do
that
again,
they
should
be
available
on
the
public.
The
madison
city's
website,
as
well
as
a
hard
copy,
can
be
requested
from
the
city
office
and
they
will
provide
a
hard
copy
to
any
pokemon.
D
A
L
This
is
old
business.
This
this
relates
to
the
project
it
was
presented
back
in
november.
22Nd
2021
talked
about
it
last
time.
I
believe-
and
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
have
been
by
the
701
first
street
property
701
west
first
street,
but
what
was
presented
was
a
if
you
remember
it
was
retaining
wall.
L
Area,
along
with
a
I
think,
there's
three
or
four
55-gallon
drums
sitting
in
the
open
so
and
the
the
and
I
won't
it.
Basically,
it
doesn't
concern
this
board,
but
basically
the
excavation
has
taken
the
the
structure
or
the
the
lot
elevation
down
to
about
anywhere
between
four
to
six
feet
below
the
base
flood
elevation
and,
I
believe
the
city
ordinances.
L
You
have
to
be
two
foot
above
the
base:
flood
elevation
on
any
structure
on
any
lot,
that's
in
the
flood
fringe,
and
this
this
is
obviously
these
do
not
meet
that
they're
sitting
right
on
the
ground.
So
we've
got
some
significant
issues
with
that
piece
of
property:
here's
the
here's
a
little
bit
better
close-up.
This
was
kind
of
intermediate
to
the
this
was
before
the
big
the.
I
forget
what
you
call
that
big
rock,
but
anyway
rip.
J
L
L
A
But
you
know,
but
they
they
would
have
until
november.
I
think
is
when
we
I
don't
know,
I
think
it
is
a
year
to
take
it
out
and
make
it
what
they
put
in
the
application.
If
not,
then
they
would
be
in
in
non-compliance
of
of
that
now
the
structures
I'd
have
to
look
to
the
city,
for
you
know
their
guidance
and,
of
course,
as
you
said,
the
elevation
is
more
city,
you
know
ordinance
and
not
this
board.
Obviously
on
that,
so
what's
what's
the.
B
B
A
Q
A
J
A
L
W
E
W
L
W
No,
it's
too
rough
to
walk
through
there
and
even
to
drive
through
with
a
golf
cart
your
wrist,
damaging
your
tires
yeah
so
and
they
are
in
the
process,
as
I
observed,
of
replacing
a
lot
of
the
edging
around
their
plants
with
creek
rock
which
they
have
dumped
in
the
alleys
to
use
and
if
they
start
putting
the
creek
rock
out
into
the
alley
to
outline
their
beds.
Why
that's
that's
another
thing
to
consider.
L
A
B
B
N
B
I
spoke
to
gina
with
the
street
department
gave
her
the
photographs
emailed
her.
She
said
it
was
not
a
street
department
issue
and
but
she
said
it
was
a
nuisance
issue,
so
the
email
got
forwarded
to
our
nuisance,
our
code
officer
code
enforcement
officer
and
that's
interesting
to
my
knowledge.
That
was
the
last
time
I've
heard
about
it.
I
don't
know
where
it's
at
at
this
point
so.
W
E
B
B
B
B
Dixit
600
west
street
install
48
by
96,
a
36
by
60
and
a
24
by
24
aluminum
sign
with
acrylic
letters
flat
on
the
building
sanorama
dixie
at
630
north
broadway
avenue
to
install
six
12
by
18
inch
24
by
36
inch
and
three
24
by
24
aluminum
signs,
vinyl
letters
flat
on
the
building
or
freestanding
sandra
bailey
at
736
west
3rd
street.
To
remove
canvas,
awnings,
replace
14
foot,
wood,
picket
fence
with
a
wrought
iron
fence,
replace
front
porch
and
rear
porch
deck
wood
floor
with
composite
deck.
Flooring.
B
N
B
B
N
B
Sanorama
dixie
at
201
milton
street,
remove
existing
maintenance
sign
and
replace
it
with
a
new
aluminum
panel
sign
non-illuminated
replace
two
no
parking
signs
with
two
new
12
by
18
inch.
No
parking
signs
chris
heights
at
323
mulberry
street
install
a
25
by
48
inch
internally
internally,
illuminated
projecting
sign,
synorama
dixie
at
621
west
street
to
remove
an
existing
fence
sign
and
replace
with
a
36
by
60
inch
aluminum
welded
box
sign
with
half
inch
acrylic
acrylic
letters
all
right
so
june
2020.
B
I
can't
even
talk
now
june
2021
coa
review
gary
zaveri
at
831
east
main
approval
to
install
a
five
foot
by
six
foot
freestanding
sign
on
the
hill
that
has
been
done.
Howard
and
lisa
cutshall
at
907
and
909
west
second
received
approval
for
vinyl
windows
on
the
sides
and
rear.
However,
they
installed
aluminum
clad.
Instead
jacqueline
madison
219
to
21
walnut
street
demolished
a
rear
chimney
that
has
been
done.
L
B
B
B
D
A
Put
into
place,
you
got
it
so
tom,
I
think
that's
the
the
key
is
that
the
the
ordinance
is
being
looked
at
as
well.
Cities
redoing
the
ordinance
you
know,
certainly
not
even
as
just
a
board
member,
but
certainly
as
a
community
member.
You
can
make
your
voice
heard
on
what
you'd
like
to
have
in
that
ordinance
for
violations
such
as
these
and
and
then
they,
then
that
would
give
some
teeth
to
the
city
to
actually
take
some
type
of
action,
whether
that's
with
the
contractor
or
with
a
resident.
That
is.
A
A
E
A
There's
things
I
understand
that,
there's
things
that
we
must
follow,
but
there
are
things
such
as
what
we're
talking
about
with
putting
things
in
for
violations
and
fines.
That
could
happen
because
of
those
violations
that
could
be
additional
and,
of
course,
you
know,
it
may
be
incumbent
on
this
board
that
the
the
city
of
madison,
you
know,
might
be
looking
at
this
board
to
help
them
in
you
know,
issuing
those
those
fines
or
coming
to
a
finding
that
it's
in
violation
right.