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Historic District Board of Review- August 22, 2022
A
Okay,
well
welcome
I'd
like
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here
tonight
on
august
for
our
august
22nd
historic
district
board
of
review
meeting,
would
you
like
to
take
roll
call
brooke?
Yes,.
A
A
Did
everybody
have
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
last
month's
meeting
minutes?
Yes,
any
changes,
additions,
deletions.
A
E
A
A
State
your
name
and
your
address
brook
will
then
go
through
your
application
and
make
sure
that
we
all
clearly
understand
what
you're
applying
for
at
that
point.
If
you
have
anything
that
you
would
like
to
add
in
addition
to
the
application
or
what's
been
said,
you
can
feel
free
to
do
so
after
it's
presented,
then
the
board
members
will
ask
questions,
maybe
clarifications
on
the
application
and
then
we'll
ask
if
there
are
any
questions
or
any
comments
from
the
public
as
well.
A
After
that's
all
said
and
done,
we
will
go
through
our
facts
of
finding
based
on
our
guidelines
and
then
we
will
ask
for
a
motion
from
somebody
on
the
board.
We'll
have
a
second
vote
for
that,
and
then
we
will
actually
vote
for
the
motion
that
was
made
with
that
said,
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
our
applications.
D
A
A
A
The
next
application
is
stephen
and
elizabeth
thomas.
B
Keeps
telling
me
low
battery,
but
it's
plugged
in
all
right.
Sorry
about
that.
Thank
you
all
right.
So
this
application
by
stephen
and
elizabeth
thomas
is
for
20
208
east
2nd
street.
This
building
is
a
circa,
1840,
italian
and
contributing
zone.
Central
business
district,
the
coa
request,
is
to
replace
windows
of
varying
materials
that
are
existing
currently
in
the
structure.
With
six
over
six
fiberglass
windows
of
the
same
size,
you
can
see
currently
the
front
facade
of
the
building.
B
These
are
the
windows
that
are
currently
in
the
building
installed
now,
so
you
can
see
on
the
front
north
facing
west
side.
On
the
second
floor,
we
have
one
over
one:
circo
1972
windows,
the
front
north
facing
center
second
floor,
same
circa,
1972
windows,
also
on
the
north
facing
east
side.
Same
now,
in
the
front
north
facing
center
third
floor,
they
are
wood
windows.
Six
over
six.
These
windows
all
appear
to
be
an
advanced
state
of
deterioration.
B
B
F
No,
the
windows
you
see
are
pretty
much
what
we
inherited
27
and
a
half
years
ago,
and
that's
a
little
more
like
what
we
want
to
look
like
it.
The
way
things
are
at
the
back
of
the
building.
You
barely
get
a
lift
up
there
like
what's
in
front
of
the
hotel
over
here,
it's
impossible
to
get
a
ladder
to
the
back
this
one
you
can,
but
I'm
sort
of
not
allowed
to
do
that
anymore
and
there's
not
too
many
people
around
that
are
answering
the
phone
about
doing.
H
F
A
F
For
the
rest
of
the
windows,
if
you
can
go
back
to
that,
the
pictures
you
saw
of
the
west
facing
if
it's
possible
on
those
it
was
felt
that,
since
those
windows
aren't
even
replacement
of
periods,
I
mean
they
bricked
those
in
and
turned
those
into
small.
So
I
was
planning
on
two
over
two
on
those
and
six
over
sixes
on
the
front.
Okay,.
A
Yeah
sandy,
would
you
would
you
like
to
start
us
off
with
some
questions?
If
you
have.
J
Okay,
steve,
since
this
is
italian
eight
I'm
curious.
Why,
or
do
you
want
to
go
with
six
over
sixes
since,
like
two
over
two
would
be
like
more
of
that
vintage
and
you're
you're,
putting
two
over
two.
You
say
on
that
side
right,
so
I
wanted
to
make
them
all
two
over
two.
F
J
J
No,
I
think
six
over
six
would
be
for
a
much
older
building
two
over
two
or
maybe
three
over
three
would
be
when
if
that
building
is
italian,
eight,
that's
what
that
would
have
had
in
it
at
that
time.
So
I'm
just
curious,
since
you
are
doing
two
over
two,
you
just
said
on
one
side:
why
just
make
them
all
two
over
two
and
then
that
would
be
appropriate
for
the
period.
J
F
Somebody
else
did,
but
it
was
we've
had
it
dated
constructed.
This
construction
probably
began
around
1848
and
was
finished
sometime
before
the
tax
rolls
show
up
from
the
1851
fire
or
whatever
the
tax
roll
shows
up
in
either
1852
or
1853.
So
I
go
by
what
the
experts
have
told
me
on
that.
So
if
there's
a
feeling
about
that,
I'm
open
to
entertaining
it,
it's
just
the
other
buildings
around
town,
the
older
ones
that
I
can
see,
look
like
they
had
six
over
six.
So
that's
kind
of
how
I
okay.
B
But
if
that
dating
of
1850s,
then
six
over
six
would
be
an
appropriate
style
choice
on.
L
J
J
B
Correct-
and
I
do
agree
with
you
on
that-
I
do
struggle
to
identify
it
as
italian.
It
myself,
but
I
do
that's.
F
F
In
what
those
are
up,
there
excuse
me
two
nailed
in
uppers
against
one
another
up
against
the
jam
and
and
and
trim
so
they
may
have
been,
and
they're
and
they're.
J
A
We
do
have
some
in
the
200
block
of
west
2nd
street,
just
a
couple:
doors,
west
and
they're
all
two
over
two
and
there's
two
twin
buildings
with
that
with
a
shared
wall
and
if
you
look
at
them,
they're
being
restored
and
there's
a
one
of
the
buildings
being
restored
into
a
single
family
home
in
the
middle
of
the
block
and
all
of
those
windows
are
being
restored
and
they
are
two
over
two
just
for
reference
and
it's
1840s
1850s
architecture
italianate.
D
D
Well,
as
to
the
conformance,
the
the
materials
were
not
in
question
so
much.
D
Therefore,
I
thought
the
issue
of
the
two
over
two
or
the
one
over
one,
rather
than
the
six
over
six
was
a
bit
weak
only
because
it
says
using
the
term
most
likely
does
does
not
make
it
true
and
because
it
may
have
been
a
six
over
six
depending
on
that
year
and
if
you'll
notice
to
the
right
to
the
left
of
you
to
the
west
of
you,
mad
town
liquors,
their
windows
are
six
over
six
on
the
front
there,
and
because
your
top
windows
are
six
over
six.
D
B
A
C
Go
ahead,
we've
got
the
original
windows
on
the
upper
floors
of
our
house.
There
420
elm,
it
was
built
in
1830.
C
Our
house
was
built
in
1830
there
at
420
and
the
ones
up
above
or
I
think,
they're
nine
over
six,
which
is
kind
of
a
weird
combination,
but
the
ones
on
the
first
floor
I
believe,
were
replaced
and
they
are
six
over
six
and
it
was
about
eighteen
fifty.
So
I
think,
based
on
this
discussion,
my
attitude
is,
you
can
do
whatever
you
want
to
do.
You
can
do
two
over
two
or
six
over
six.
I
mean
it's
really
what
I
I
hate
to
throw
that
at
you,
but
I
mean
it's
whatever
pleases.
C
You
guys.
I
think
I
don't
know
how
the
board
feels,
but
my
attitude
is:
if
there's
a
discussion
any
variability
there,
because
I
think
you
can
go
around
town
and
see
examples
of
houses
where
you've
got
two
over
twos
and
also
six
over
sixes
so
for
that
time
period,
but
to
me
appreciate
what
you're
doing
trying
to
keep
those
windows
up
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
J
Want
to
make
one,
I
want
to
remind
the
board
that
we
should
not
be
saying
what
we
think
looks
nice,
it's
not
about
our
taste.
If
we
want
to
say
you
know,
this
is
more
appropriate
for
this
time
period
or
or
not,
that's
fine,
but
when
it
comes
to
taste
it's
the
owner,
if,
if
you
can't
tell
which
one
it
is,
then
the
owner
gets
to
pick,
we
should
not
ever
say:
oh,
it
sure
would
look
nice.
I
would
love
it
if
you
would
do
so,
and
so
that's
not
in
the
guidelines.
A
J
B
J
B
J
J
Okay,
all
right,
yeah,
okay,
so
original
windows
should
be
preserved
in
the
original
size,
location
and
design,
but
the
these
are
either
not
original.
Very
few
of
them
original,
probably
none,
but
the
one
that
might
be
is
so
deteriorated.
We
they
all,
have
to
be
replaced.
Okay,
number
two
whoop
windows
should
not
be
added
on
the
primary
first
side.
We're
not
doing
that.
Number
three
windows
should
be
repaired
rather
than
replace,
but
all
these
seem
to
be.
J
You
know
if
it's
80
deteriorated,
but
certainly
very
they're,
either
not
historic
or
the
the
one
that
may
have
historic
is
quite
deteriorated
or
most
of
it
missing.
J
J
Are
you
going
to
you're
just
using
a
double
pane
so
that
we're
not
talking
about
screens
or
storms,
so
number
six
doesn't
apply
and
security
bars?
No
security
bars
right,
so
that
number
seven
doesn't
apply.
Therefore
it
appears
to
me
that
steve's
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
guidelines.
B
A
C
A
So
with
that
you'll
be
getting
your
coa
to
go
ahead
and
move
ahead
with
your
project,
just
make
sure
that
you've
got
all
your
appropriate
permits
in
place
before
you
begin
the
work
all
right.
Thanks,
steve.
A
Our
next
applicant
is
michael
o'day,.
B
This
home
is
a
circa
1970
non-contributing,
modern
movement
ranch
style.
It
is
zoned
historic,
district
residential.
The
coa
request
is
to
rearrange
eight
existing
windows
on
the
south
elevation,
adding
two
new
windows
adjust
deck,
slash
rail
to
new
window
orientation,
install
board
and
batten,
siding
composite
siding
over
existing
brick
veneer
in
the
vicinity
of
the
windows.
You
can
see
a
photo
of
the
home
on
your
left
here.
B
B
L
B
J
L
A
A
Okay,
with
that
said
mike,
would
you
like
to
start
us
out
finding
some
facts.
C
Findings
fact
seems
like
we
just
did
windows
basically
you're
gonna
be
complimented
for
reusing
what
you
got.
That's
a
that's
a
great
thing.
L
C
C
C
C
A
A
Okay,
with
that
said,
let's
ask
for
a
motion,
then.
C
I
I
will
make
a
motion
based
on
the
proceedings
finding
the
fact.
I
find
that
michael,
oh
day,
at
803
fillmore
street
be
given
a
certificate
of
properties
for
the
project
as
submitted.
C
D
A
A
A
Okay,
I'm
sorry
kevin.
Let
me
add
you
to
my
worksheet
here
great.
Can
you
state
your
name
and
your
address.
B
All
right,
this
home
is
a
circa
1870,
contributing
it
is
an
italian
zoned,
historic
district
residential.
The
coa
request
is
to
add
a
roof
over
the
existing
rear
patio.
You
can
see
a
photograph
of
the
front
of
the
home
here
we
have
a
few
photographs
of
the
rear
of
the
home,
where
the
proposed
patio
will
be
located.
B
This
is
an
architectural
drawing
of
the
side
view
showing
the
proposed
porch
edition
or
the
porch
roof
edition.
I
apologize
and
another
view
from
the
side
or
from
the
front.
Excuse
me
for
the
rear.
Sorry,
I
will
get
that
right
here
in
a
second,
it's
the
rear,
yep
and
then
this
would
be
the
site
plan.
A
Okay,
so
kevin
and
linda,
do
you
guys
have
anything
else
that
you'd
like
to
add
to
this
application.
A
Okay,
you've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
that
property
and
it's
it's
really
a
masterpiece.
Thank
you.
We
have
any
other
comments
or
questions
from
the
board.
D
Addition
should
be
of
a
compatible
design
in
keeping
with
the
original
building
design,
roof,
shape,
materials,
color
and
location
of
windows,
doors
and
corner
sites.
That's
all
right
is
there.
Another
page
sorry
edition
should
not
imitate
an
earlier
historic
style
or
architectural
period,
which
I
don't
believe
it's
going
to,
because
apparently
there
wasn't
a
covering
there
before
right
yeah.
The
recommended
approach
is
for
additions
to
reflect
characteristics
of
the
current
period
in
design
but
compatible
with
the
original
building,
which
the
drawings
showed
me
to
avoid
extensive
removal,
damage
or
loss
of
historic
materials.
I
I
G
East
yeah
right,
there's
north
south
border
and
then
that
runs
from
main
street
to
first
street.
G
Then
the
border
behind
our
house,
the
alley
behind.
J
G
From
craigmont
all
the
way
over
to
you
know
beyond
broadway.
A
A
I
A
A
I
A
A
So
we'll
go
ahead
and
put
her
towards
the
end
of
the
applications
and
hopefully
she'll
have
representation
here
by
the
end
of
the
meeting
with
that
said,
then
we
can
go
on
to
chad,
gray.
N
B
H
A
N
A
Now
remind
me:
does
the
roof
line
change
from
the
old
portion
that
you
kept
to
the
new
portion
in
the
front?
It's
the
same.
N
It's
the
same
rolling
all
the
way
through
we
just
carried
the
shotgun
all
the
way
through
the
the
addition.
Well,
the
front,
half
that
was
taken
out
right.
N
N
K
A
Okay,
with
that
said
sandy,
would
you
like
to
start
us
with
the
findings
of
fact.
I
New
construction:
I
think
this
is
additions
of
additions
that
we
have
the
buildings.
This
is
like
the
whole
building.
It's
mostly
has
to
do
with
its
scale,
design
and
placement.
It's
all
seems
like
it
meets.
That
condition
should
be
compatible
with
roof
shape,
materials,
color
location,
I
think
we're,
in
conformance
with
those.
I
I
don't
think
that's
an
issue
when
we're
talking
about
a
plan
on
the
continuing
roof.
The
number
four
five
again,
I
think
we're
in
compliance
with
all
of
it.
I
mean
those
that
are
applicable
right
owen,.
J
A
D
To
make
a
motion
please,
based
on
the
preceding
fan
findings
of
fact,
I
moved
at
the
madison
historic
district
board
of
review,
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
chad,
gray
at
124
east
street
to
construct
a
20-foot
awning
extending
rear
roof
that
will
be
attached
to
the
extending
existing
rear
structure
of
the
home.
Okay,.
A
A
I
also
approve
thank
you
for
the
job
that
you're
doing
down
there.
This
it's
going
to
be
a
huge
improvement.
It's
been
nice
to
watch
the
progress
with
the
front
coming
off
and
I'm
anxious
to
see
this.
The
back
portion
also
develop
now
too
so
you'll
get
your
coa
in
the
mail
and,
like
we've,
said
all
night
long
make
sure
you
have
all
your
work
permits
in
place
before
you
start
the
work
we'll.
A
A
Okay,
our
next
applicant
paul
and
teresa
walters.
E
B
B
So
this
home
is
a
circa
1840
contributing
is
a
federal,
slash,
italian
zoned,
historic
district
residential.
The
coa
request
is
to
build
a
one
car
garage
on
the
back
of
the
property
to
be
approximately
earth.
To
be
excuse
me,
15
by
20,
siding
with
lp,
smart,
siding,
a
shingle
roof
period,
appropriate
one
side
door
and
one
window.
H
B
I
E
E
A
Thank
you
anything
else.
You
want
to
add
to
this
particular
application.
Okay,
do
you
have
any
questions
from
the
board.
A
A
J
Set
back
here
is,
is
it's
kind
of
all
defined
by
all
the
constraints
on
every
side
anyway,.
J
Page
be
compatible
with
adjusted
buildings
in
terms
of
scale
proportion,
roof
form
it
is
oriented
toward
the
alley.
A
new
garage
should
be
built
at
the
rear
of
the
dwelling,
which
is
exactly
where
this
one
is
proposed
to
be
placed.
So
we've
seen
to
me
that
this
proposal
is
consistent
with
our
guidelines.
A
And
I
also
agree
for
the
same
reasons:
do
I
have
a
motion
I'll
make
the
motion
that,
based
on
the
preceding.
C
C
Find
it
we
approve
their
application
for
a
garage
and
overhang,
I
believe,
was
a
carport
correct.
It's
gonna
be
like
a
little
golf
cart
yeah
for
a
small
small
overhang
at
their
at
their
home,
as
submitted
great.
B
C
A
L
A
B
This
home
is
a
circa
1890
contributing
queen
in
shotgun.
It
is
owned,
historic,
district
residential.
The
coa
request
is
to
build
a
one
car
garage
on
the
back
of
the
property
modifying
the
existing
approved
coa
for
the
said
garage
to
include
changes
in
materials
and
structural
construction.
So
it's
actually
just
materials
we
are
looking
at
tonight.
B
These
would
be
images
of
some
of
the
final
finishing
look
of
the
same
type
of
roofing
material.
B
Another
modification
he
is
asking
for
is
one
32
by
48
inch
window
on
each
gable
end.
Those
windows
will
be
aluminum,
clad,
wood
and
black
to
match
the
home.
They
are
anderson
e
series.
The
original
coa
was
approved
with
a
412
pitch.
That
was
a
typographical
error.
The
house
pitch
is
a
912
and
he
would
like
to
match
that
house
pitch.
B
He
would
also
like
to
add
a
double
wood
carriage
wood,
double
wood
carriage
door,
one
nine
by
nine
for
a
car
one,
four
by
nine
for
a
golf
cart
as
opposed
to
the
original
fiberglass
or
aluminum
door.
That
was
approved,
and
he
did
know.
This
precise
look
may
vary
due
to
custom
fabrication,
but
that
that
photo
would
be
an
inspiration
photo
of
what
ideally,
he
would
like
to
have.
K
Without
the
windows,
because
brooke
educated
me
that
the
appropriate
carriage
storage
of
the
time
would
not
have
the
glass
windows,
but
we
didn't
have
to
update
the
photo
in
the
presentation.
B
I
K
Well,
we're
actually
so
what?
What
really?
The
issue
that
we're
running
into?
Is
a
structural
concern
of
the
standing
metal
seam
requiring
a
two
foot
spacing
on
our
basically
our
rafters
that
we'll
be
building,
and
these
are
some
variations
of
exposed,
fasteners
and
really
our
only
ask
is
we
have
one
that
can
support
a
typical
four
foot
span,
my
personal
favorites,
the
top
left,
because
it
it's
rib
spacing,
is
similar
to
the
box.
K
Batten,
which
is
a
longer
spacing
somewhere
between
12
and
16
inches
generally,
and
also
the
rib
height,
is
more
like
three
quarters
of
an
inch
which
closer
matches
the
standing
seam.
Really.
The
only
difference
here
is
the
exposed
fasteners,
as
opposed
to
being
hidden
on
the
standing
scene.
K
Yes,
these
are
actually
brands
from
ms
metals,
which
brook
directed
us
to
their
supplier
out
of
from
ben
that
benders
uses.
We,
we
would
use
anything
that
the
board
would
like
us
to
use
as
long
as
we
can
fit
it
into
our
new
post
post
frame
style
construction-
and
I
pointed
at
the
bottom
right
a
lot
of
times
when
I've
seen
prior
board
meetings.
Is
they
ask?
K
Is
it
a
barn,
metal
roof
and
I
think
typically,
when
I
think
of
that,
as
the
shorter
corrugated
style
on
the
bottom
right,
which
we
would
not
plan
on
using.
That's
is
more
of
a
what
I
would
call
a
barn
roof
and
they
have
newer
more.
B
No
I'll
keep
going
so
these
are
some
different
types
of
the
metal
materials
as
well.
This
would
be
your
true
standing
scene.
B
And
this
slide
compares
hidden,
fastener
versus
exposed
fastener.
Would
you
like
me
to
cover
these
or
or
have
you
read
those
in
your
packets,
I've.
M
J
M
B
B
He
is
now
requesting
this
style
roof
because
of
the
the
structural
constraints
and
the
weight
that
either
a
shingle
or
a
standing.
Seam
roof
requires
the
structural
support
for
so
he
is
asking
for
that.
A
A
K
My
preference,
I
my
personal
preference,
is
the
top
left
one,
but
really
what
we
would
look
for
is
probably
one
that
has
anywhere
from
that
12
to
16
inch
spacing
on
the
rib
and
a
rib
height
of
you
know
greater
than
half
inch,
I'm
trying
to
stay
away
from
brand
names
because
we
ran
into
that
issue
nicole.
Actually,
thank
goodness.
K
You
approved
aluminum,
clad
wood
by
name
and
not
quaker
versus
anderson,
because
the
one
just
like
the
first
applicant
today
that
wanted
the
quaker,
those
are
a
better
value,
but
at
the
time
they
were
back
ordered
eight
months.
So
luckily
the
approval
was
based
on
more
material
type
than
brands.
So
again,
these
are
all
specific
brand
names
from
ms
metals,
but
I
think
if
we
could
just
get
something
that
you
know,
my
preference
again
is
to
look
like
the
standing
seam,
which
is
about
12
to
6
inch.
G
K
To
16
inches
on
the
spacing
a
higher
rib
height,
and
as
long
as
it
can
accommodate
that
four
foot
spacing
on
center
and
not
have
that
dead
load
weight
that
traditional
standing
seam
requires.
C
B
So
exposed
fastener
metal
roofs
typically
have
not
been
considered,
in
conformance
with
the
guidelines.
The
guidelines
do
not
support
that.
That
would
be
the
board's
decision,
as
they
are
guidelines.
Oh
to
interpret
those.
I.
H
M
So
they
they
installed
that
specific
name
brand.
It's
very
similar
to
that
top
left
one
that
mark
mentioned,
there's
a
variety
of
different
brands
that
carry
the
same
thing.
My
recommendation
to
the
board
is
they
want
to
approve
that
to
just
be
specific
metal,
with
the
ranges
that
he's
asking
for
between
the
ribs
with
a
certain
rib
height
and
not
mentioned
brand
name?
Okay,.
M
H
G
H
A
M
K
Well,
unfortunately,
I'm
not
an
expert
on
metal
roofs.
I
know
that
a
lot
of
these
would
possibly
require
exposed
fasteners.
Now
I
know
like
that.
5V
there
are
ways
that
you
can
kind
of
eliminate
as
many
that
are
exposed,
but
I
can't
say
that
there
wouldn't
be
a
small
section
that
has
some,
because
it's
not
the
traditional
crimp
over
type.
I
think
that's
the
nature
of
their
shape.
A
K
K
It's
mostly
like
I
said
the
four
foot
spacing
debt
load
requirement
and
I
think
the
majority
of
the
installations
I've
seen
would
have
your
fasteners
exposed
in
places.
I
mean
correct
me
if
I'm
I'm
wrong.
Mr
pittman,
I
think
you've
probably
had
some
experience
installing
these
similar
types
of
roofs.
Do
you
have.
H
C
Believe
it
or
not,
I'm
not
a
roof
installer.
So
I
don't
sure
I
really
don't
paint
it.
The
last
roof
I
put
on
was
standing
seam,
okay,
so
just
so
you
know,
but
you
know,
and-
and
I
have
used
the
exposed
fasteners
on
on
a
couple
of
couple
sets
of
garages.
C
K
Before
absolutely
yep
and
I'd
asked,
and
I'm
not
trying
to
be
ambiguous
with
the
request,
but
because
it
is
structural
in
nature,
we
wanted
to
provide
an
assortment
of
materials
that
would
satisfy
the
board.
I
mean
to
me,
it
doesn't
make,
doesn't
make
much
difference.
A
Well,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
what
we
need
tonight
I
think
mr
pittman
alluded
to.
That
is.
We
need
to
know
if
you
do
want
to
go
with
the
14
to
6
inch
width
exposed,
fastener
or
one
of
those
other
versions,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
when
you
walk
out
of
here
tonight
you
we
know
exactly
what
you're
going
to
use.
Yes,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
brand
name,
as
we
discussed
earlier.
K
H
C
Findings
of
fact,
where,
again
this
is
a
new
building,
I
don't
there
was
never
a
garage
back.
There
was
there.
C
C
New
buildings
should
be
compatible
in
terms
of
scale
and
proportions.
I
think
there's
several
different
types
of
buildings
back
there.
New
buildings
should
be
compatible
with
this,
but
in
terms
of
roof
form.
What's
your
roof
pitch
on
that
you've
got
back
there.
K
C
A
Great
thanks
mike
carol,
anne.
D
I'm
sorry,
what
did
you
ask
me?
I
was
writing.
A
Do
you
agree
with
mike
sandy.
I
Bear
with
me
I,
based
on
the
preceding
findings
of
fact,
I
moved
that
the
madison
historic
district
board
of
review
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
mark
the
turner,
a
716
west.
Third,
for
the
proposed.
I
B
E
K
If
it
seems
more
appropriate,
but
yes,
I
I
believe
brook,
were
you
telling
me
that
the
windows
it
would
be
more
historically
accurate,
not
to
have
windows
of
the
time
period
or
to
I
mean
we,
I
mean.
B
B
E
B
Then
correct
the
carriage
doors
would
not
have
typically
had
windows
at
that
era.
During
that
era,
however,
that's
a
personal
preference.
You.
H
K
I
K
It's
the
same
style,
that's
on
the
home,
I'm
afraid.
I'm
not.
A
window
expert
is
like
what
we
were
talking
about
earlier
and
the
six
over
sixes
or
whatnot,
but
hopefully
just
match
the
style
that
was
on.
A
And
with
that,
you
will
get
your
coa
in
the
mail
and
then
get
your
work
permits
in
place
before
you
start
the
work
and
you'll
be
good
to
go.
Okay,
yeah.
A
And
nicole,
did
you
hear
anything
from
scott
exline
or
lucy
staff.
M
Has
not
heard
anything
from
the
two
missing
applicants
so
pending
them
coming
to
the
next
meeting,
we'll
put
them
on
the
next
agenda
since
they're,
incomplete
applications.
Okay,.
M
A
Be
great
thanks,
nicole,
okay,
I
guess
then
we're
ready
for
a
new
and
old
business.
Do
you
want
to
start
with
old
business
brooke.
B
M
Before
you
take
a
vote
just
so
the
board's
cleared,
so
this
will
be
a
amendment
to
the
historic
district
ordinance,
there's
a
small
little
section
under
considerations
to
the
board.
Let's
tell
you
how
often
I've
read
your
thing,
but
it
refers
to
the
current
guidelines
as
design
standards,
residential
appendix
a
design,
standards,
commercial
appendix
so
we'll
modify
that
to
be
just
these
design
standards
as
an
appendix
say.
C
B
M
A
Okay,
new
business,
unless
there's
more
old
business,
brooke,
okay,.
E
J
M
No
no
comments.
It's.
It
should
be
a
pretty
easy
process
to
get
you
that
list.
I
can't
guarantee,
with
the
amount
of
volume
that
you'll
get
it
you'll,
be
able
to
get
it
every
month,
but
we
will
do
our
best
to
do
it
that
way,
we're
in
the
process
of
putting
a
list
together
of
the
ones
that
we're
looking
at
landon.
M
So
eventually
that
list
will
be
public
they're
still
going
through
the
process
of
notifying
the
owners
who
are
on
that
list.
Okay,.
M
A
Request
it
so
then,
how
will
that
work
going
forward?
Monthly
I
mean,
will
it
still
will
we
need
to
request
you
know
through
the
staff
to
to
get
that
list
or
will
will
we
be
emailed.
M
Let
me
ask
devin
what
the
best
legal
process
guess
is
for
ease
of
staff.
It
will
probably
just
come
emailed
great.
M
A
Okay,
thanks
owen,
any
other
new
business.
I
A
I
M
M
Those
have
already
gone
through
legal
and
the
mayor
is
looking
at
those
now
just
to
give
his
input.
But
my
recommendation
when
josh
gets
back
is
since
he's
the
chair
to
set
a
subcommittee
of
two
members
to
start
reviewing
those
and
then
make
changes
as
they
would
see
fit
and
then
bring
that
before
the
full
board.
M
H
M
That
may
be
a
little
bit
of
a
tight
turnaround,
definitely
not
possible
to
get
it
out
before
to
counsel
and
approve
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I
think
that's
too
close,
but
definitely
I'd,
say
first
quarter
next
year.
Okay,
thank
you.
M
Yeah,
because
between
ural's
review
I
mean
typically,
you
give
two
to
three
meetings
to
allow
adequate
public
comment.
Council
takes
two
to
takes
three
three
meetings
to
review
it
as
long
as
they
don't
have
anything
too
controversial.
M
I
haven't
seen
anything
tabled
yet,
but
they
that
that
ordinance
has
done
that
in
the
past
been
tabled
at
the
council
level.
So
we
always
anticipate
that,
but
I
think
brooke
and
I
both
agree
that
the
changes
we've
recommended
that
the
subcommittee
will
see.
First,
I
think
that
will
help
clear
up
some
things.
So
hopefully
there's
not.
It
shouldn't
take
too
much
back
and
forth,
but
ultimately
it
is
your
all's
ordinance.
So
we
of
course
want
public
comments
and
your
comments
on
that.
A
Do
we
have
any
public
questions
comments?
Okay,
thank
you
for
staying
for
the
entire
meeting
I'll
ask
for
then
emotion.
J
B
Our
august
fast
track
applications
with
wayne
and
elise
detmer
at
104
east
3rd
street
to
replace
an
existing
modern
standing
seam
roof
with
an
asphalt
shingle
roof
to
more
closely
aligned
to
the
historic
1886
roof
material,
as
evidenced
on
the
sanborn
map
of
same
heater,
heist
sign
company
at
209
west
main
street
to
install
one
hanging
sign
36
by
48
by
one
quarter,
inch
made
of
poly
metal
with
vinyl
graphics,
one
vinyl
window,
decal
of
business
logo,
27.5
inch
by
45
and
a
half
inch
len,
and
michelle
pennington
at
227
west
main
to
install
a
4x4
foot
wooden
hanging
sign
at
right
angle
to
the
building
and
one
vinyl
window
sign
at
38
by
23
inches
catherine
burris
at
410,
west
2nd
street
to
replace
existing
rear
wooden
privacy
fence
with
a
new
six
foot
tall
privacy
fence
in
the
same
location.
B
B
B
John
and
lisa
gray,
at
736
west
main
street
received
approval
to
build
a
roof
over
the
patio
structure
and
add
a
pony
wall
that
has
been
done.
It's
mike
sorry,
I
did
not
notate
the
last
name.
I
will
pull
that
up
ferris,
I
believe
at
208
ferry
street
and
to
install
an
aluminum
carport
that
has
been
done.
B
B
B
B
B
B
708
east
2nd
street
owned
by
john
heights
non-conforming
windows
installed.
He
received
a
coa
for
aluminum,
clad
wood
windows.
Vinyl
windows
were
installed.
Instead,
I
did
speak
with
him.
He
is
has
said
he
will
file
an
application
to
amend
the
coa
and
it
should
be
on
next
month's
agenda,
323
east
main
street
van
and
trevor
crafton,
unapproved
installation
of
aluminum
clad
replacement
windows.
B
They
also
have
indicated
that
they
will
file
an
application
for
a
cla
as
well
1209
west
main
street,
owned
by
jerry
and
bonnie
owens
construction
of
a
non-conforming
accessory
building
the
constructive
building
did
not
match
the
coa
or
the
building
plan
submitted.
Obviously
we're
concerned
with
the
coa
here.
B
B
The
city
attorney
did
send
a
letter
as
well,
and
there
we
are
still.
The
city
is
still
in
talks
and
negotiations
with
representatives
of
that
church
to
seek
a
remedy
for
that.
So
that
is
all
I
have.
E
A
Any
questions
or
comments
for
brooke.
A
Okay,
then,
I
think
we're
ready
to
ask
for
a
motion
for
jeremy
still
moved
great.
Second,
second,.