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From YouTube: May 5, 2015 Transportation & Public Works
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Minneapolis Transportation & Public Works Committee Meeting
A
Good
morning,
I
will
call
this
meeting
to
order.
This
is
the
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
transportation
public
works
committee.
This
day
may
5th
2015.,
I'm
councilman
wright
I'll,
be
chairing
the
committee
and
I'm
joined
by
council
members,
yang,
glidden,
palmisano,
gordon
and
bender
they're,
a
full
complement
of
the
committee.
A
The
theme
will
be
community
begins
here
and
whereas
the
national
public
works
week
is
a
celebration
of
the
men
and
women
who
play
a
crucial
role
in
the
dedication
and
are
dedicated
in
strengthening
our
community
designing
and
maintaining
infrastructures
and
improving
our
quality
of
life
and
whereas
public
works
service
services
are
provided
in,
our
community
are
integral
to
every
citizen's
everyday
life
and
whereas
the
department
facilitated
over
100
meetings
in
the
community
to
engage
residents
and
stakeholders
regarding
recycling,
bikeways
street,
paving
redesigned
reconstruction
projects
and
whereas
the
support
and
understanding
of
the
informed
citizenry
is
vital.
B
A
A
That's
authorized
and
execution
of
an
agreement
with
the
university
of
minnesota
for
the
8th
street
project
from
15th
avenue
to
approximately
1100
feet,
east
ending
at
the
cul-de-sac.
This
was
referred
to
ways
and
means
if
anyone's
familiar
with
that
area,
the
puddles
that
are
created
with
by
that
road
are
epic
in
their
proportion
item.
A
Five
is
the
hiawatha
golf
course:
feasibility
study
agreement
and
that's
authorized
negotiation,
execution
of
a
cooperative
agreement
with
the
minnehaha
creek
watershed
district
and
the
recreation
board
to
identify
and
evaluate
potential
reconfiguration
of
the
lake
at
the
golf
course
to
best
serve
the
shared
goals
of
the
parties,
including
water
quality,
drainage
improvements
and
maintaining
the
park
and
rec
district's
need
for
a
golf
course
item.
A
Six
is
the
2015
downtown
minneapolis
tmo
grant
agreements
and
that's
a
series
of
authorizations,
including
metropolitan
council,
pass-through
sub-recipient,
grant
agreement
413-623
in
federal,
grant
money
for
transportation
demand
management
projects
that'll
go
into
effect
from
january
1st
through
december
31st.
2015.
A
execution
with
fta
fiscal
year,
2015
subsequent
certificate
certificates
and
assurances
to
certified
compliance
with
requirements
and
other
documents,
pursuant
to
the
terms
of
the
grant
agreement
authorizing
execution
of
the
city
agreement
with
the
downtown
minneapolis
management
organization
to
perform
specific
work
outlining
the
med
council
contract,
providing
the
federal
grant
funding
and
approving
an
increase
in
the
appropriation
of
revenue,
the
permanent
improvement
projects
fund
by
the
stated
amount
that
will
be
referred
to
ways
and
use
committee,
the
committee,
those
are
the
items.
A
Does
anyone
wish
to
pull
an
item
for
further
discussion?
C9
I'll
move,
all
items,
as
stated
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
this
empty
name
those
carry,
and
we
can
now
go
to
our
public
hearings.
We
have
three
of
them.
The
first
is
the
26th
street
east
28th
street
east
resurfacing
project.
Good
morning,
director
cocky.
D
Morning,
mr
chair
members
of
the
committee,
again,
I'm
mike
kennedy,
I'm
the
director
of
transportation,
maintenance
and
repair
for
public
works
and
we're
here
to
for
the
public
hearing
for
the
2015
resurfacing
program,
which
is
this
project,
is
26th
street
east
and
28th
street
east
in
south
minneapolis.
D
D
The
locations
of
the
street
are
as
included
in
your
packet
in
the
letter
and
as
shown
on
the
map,
the
street
resurfacing
would
be
a
mill,
an
overlay
of
the
street
surface,
with
plant
mix,
asphalt
and
other
paving
related
improvements
as
needed.
This
paving
project
is
scheduled
to
begin
in
early
june.
Excuse
me,
early
june
with
curb
and
gutter
work,
starting
at
this
time
and
will
be
constructed
by
the
city's
workforce.
The
project
will
include
eventually
protected
bike
lanes
which
are
funded
separately.
D
We
have
a
unique
situation
that
exists
on
28th
street
excel
energy
performed
an
upgrade
on
their
underground
underground
transmission
system
in
2013
and
as
a
result
of
this
work,
22
percent
of
the
pavement
on
28th
street
was
replaced.
Public
works
recommends
that
property
owners
be
assessed
at
a
different,
uniform
assessment
rate
that
is
equal
to
the
percentage
of
the
roadway
surface.
That
will
be
resurfaced.
The
result
is
a
revised
project
cost
for
this
segment
of
525
thousand
dollars
reduced
from
673
000.
D
There
was
community
meeting,
all
notices
have
been
mailed
and
there
was
a
neighborhood
meeting
conducted
on
april
28th.
So,
therefore,
our
recommendation
this
morning
is
to
pass
a
resolution
ordering
the
city
city
engineer
to
proceed
and
do
the
work
and
adopt
special
assessments
in
the
amount
of
six
hundred.
D
Seventy
one
thousand
one
hundred
seventy
dollars
and
thirty
two
cents
for
this
project
and
pass
a
resolution
requesting
the
board
of
estimate
and
taxation
to
authorize
the
city
to
issue
and
sell
assessment
bonds
in
the
amount
of
six
hundred
seventy
one
thousand
one
hundred
seventy
five
dollars
for
this
project.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
If
there's
questions,
I
can
take
those
otherwise.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
don't
want
to
belabor
this,
but
the
public
meetings
included
the
whole
portion
of
26th
and
28th
street
from
hennepin,
so
the
portion
of
the
10th
ward
and
a
lot
of
my
constituents
participated
in
those
meetings.
So
the
resurfacing
project
never
did
include
that
area.
But
could
you
just
talk
about
the
since
the
design
work
did
when
that
part
of
the
project
might
be
funded
again,
since
so
many
of
my
constituents
attended
those
community
meetings.
D
Mr
chair
councilmember
bender,
most
of
we
only
had
one
community
meeting
related
to
the
assessments
for
this
project.
The
rest
of
those
were
all
probably
more
related
to
the
bikeway
project.
The
project
as
a
whole
and
the
bicycle
facility
installation
is
part
of
those,
so
I
can
have
other
other
staff.
Members
address
your
question.
If
you'd
like.
C
Mr
chair
council,
member
bender,
perhaps
I
can
try
to
answer
that
question
for
you.
Yes,
during
the
entire
planning
process
of
this,
a
lot
of
discussions
that
we
had
with
the
community
and
it
was
along
the
entire
corridor
of
26th
and
28th
all
the
way
I
think
over
to
towards
hennepin,
and
a
lot
of
that
discussion
was
about
really
the
bicycle
facility
in
in
in
that
entire
corridor.
This
particular
project,
though,
is
on
the
eastern
portion
of
the
corridor.
C
C
However,
in
our
capital
program
we
do
have
a
program
called
protected
bikeways,
and
we
would
include
that
this
project
as
part
of
that
program,
so
we
do
not
have
it
identified
in
a
particular
year
yet,
but,
depending
on
you
know
how
the
budget
gets
approved
this
next
year,
there
may
be
some
opportunities
to
fit
it
into
the
five-year
plan.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
see
none.
Thank
you,
mr
kennedy,
and
we
will
open
the
public
hearing.
We
do
have
some
people
who
signed
in
I'll
take
those
in
turn
and
then,
if
anyone
else
wishes
to
sign
in
on
this
item,
please
do
so
and
we
will
allow
you
to
have
time
to
speak
at
the
podium.
So
I
will
begin
with
the
first
person
signed
in
which
is
carol
pass
and
please
come
forward
and
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
F
Hi
thanks
for
letting
me
speak
today,
my
name
is
carol
pass.
I
live
on
25
36,
18th
avenue
south
I'm,
the
chair
of
east
phillips,
it's
one
of
the
main
places
where
the
thoroughfare
runs
through.
F
My
concern
is
for
one
thing:
this
is
during
the
day
and
this
assessment
falls
heavily
on
our
on
our
residents
and
they
can't
be
here
today.
I
don't
like
to
always
be
the
one
to
represent
them,
but
the
fact
is
that
this
is
scheduled
when
it
is
makes
it
difficult
for
them.
But
first
of
all
I
want
to
call
attention
to
the
fact
that
the
people
living
right
where
this
part
goes
through,
who
will
be
assessed
for
the
taxes,
are
quite
poor.
F
They
some
of
them
own
their
own
homes,
but
I
have
to
tell
you,
I
know
right
now,
of
people
that
have
been
taxed
out
of
their
out
of
their
homes,
even
if
they
didn't
even
have
to
pay
any
more
anymore.
Mortgage
payments
they've
lost
their
home
to
taxes.
This
is
alarming.
To
me.
We
have
a
tiny
home
owner
base
that
that
really
profits
from
having
their
own
place.
So
that's
the
kind
of
community
there's
about
some
families
of
four
I'd
say
the
average
family
of
four
makes
about
twenty
thousand
a
year.
F
This
is
serious
for
us
very
serious
for
us,
so
that's
who's
there,
but
who's
going
through
here,
huge
trucks,
great
big
trucks
diesel's
going
to
here
and
there
food
trucks,
everybody
that
crosses
town
goes
down
these
two
streets,
so
they
need
to
be
repaved
more
often
and
these
people
don't
even
many
of
them,
don't
have
cars
and
they-
and
they
really
don't
use
this
in
the
same
way.
So
we
feel
that
they're
paying
a
use
tax
that
they
don't
really
gain
anything
by
their
homes,
are
not
increased
in
value.
F
By
having
this
done,
they're
they're
actually
decreased
because
more
traffic
will
be
going
down
there.
They
gain
nothing,
and
I
know
you
could
say
they
haven't
had
a
hearing
here
so
that
they
haven't
been
represented
in
this
taxation.
That's
true,
but
I
basically,
I
feel,
even
if
they
were
even
if
they,
even
if
this
is
parceled
out
as
it
is
now.
I'm
hearing
all
many
many
comments
about
equity.
F
It's
this
term
is
bounced
around
everywhere,
and
I
think
that
it's
a
money
issue
before
it's
a
it's,
it's
less
an
organization,
a
participation
issue
than
it
is
a
financial
issue
they're
not
here
today
they
can't
participate
because
they
all
work,
I'm
here
speaking
for
the
about
5000
people
in
my
neighborhood
and
the
people
in
midtown
and
etc.
All
the
way
down
the
line.
I
see
none
of
them
here.
They
can't
be
here
because
when
the
meeting
is
scheduled,
they
do
not
want
to
be
frankly
assessed
at
all.
F
This
is
not
to
their
advantage;
it
doesn't
assist
them.
It
goes
by
their
house.
It
brings
huge
trucks,
it's
being
worn
out
by
people
that
that
have
to
go
from
east
to
west
and
west
east
very
quickly,
and
this
is
the
road
they
take,
and
so
I'm
asking
you
to
rethink
the
whole
thing
about
the
assessment
of
this.
I
don't
oppose
a
project.
I
have
to
also
say
that
many
pieces
of
this
with
the
bike
lanes
and
etc
have
become
extremely
controversial.
F
We
just
had
an
accident
the
other
day
based
on
exactly
what
we
predicted
they
hit.
One
of
those
bump
outs
and
they
weren't
prepared
for
the
bump
out.
They
ran
up
over
the
bump
out
and
right
into
somebody's
house.
This
really
needs
to
be
looked
at.
That's
another
issue,
but
this
one,
I'm
speaking
to
is
the
assessment.
I
would
suggest
that
you
don't
assess
these
people
at
all.
They
gain
nothing.
They
shouldn't
have
to
be
assessed
and
they've
been
unable
to
be
here.
Thank
you.
A
G
Good
morning
I'm
brad
pass.
I
live
at
2536,
18th
avenue,
south
I'm
carol's,
husband
and
carol
said
a
lot
of
what
I
was
going
to
say,
but
this
in
this
age
of
equity,
with
quotation
marks
around
it,
there
is
no
equity
in
charging
the
poorest
people
in
this
city
to
expedite
traffic,
heavy
traffic,
computer
traffic
commuter
traffic,
industrial
traffic
through
their
neighborhood
and
as
a
matter
of
fact,
people
are
being
assessed
who
don't
even
live
on
26th
and
28th.
G
H
I
think,
and
and
where's.
G
Our
champion
of
of
equity,
the
mayor,
she
should
be
here
holding
the
flag
of
the
poor
people
in
these
neighborhoods
who
can't
afford
to
be
taxed
out
of
their
homes.
You
need
to
rethink
this.
You
need
to
figure
out
an
equitable
way
of
paying
for
this.
A
D
Mr
chair,
our
uniform
assessment
rate
is
designed
to
sort
of
level
out
the
cost
of
our
assessments
to
property
owners,
so
that
no
one
is
hit
with
you
know,
especially
particularly
difficult
project,
and
have
to
pay
more
than
someone
else
just
to
have
their
street
improved.
D
The
assessment
rates
are
calculated
every
year
and
adjusted
based
on
our
construction
costs.
It's
a
standard
way
for
the
city
to
to
fund
our
streets.
This
is
a
combination
of
net
debt
bonds
and
assessments.
We're
at
about
60
percent
or
so
67
of
the
cost
will
be
assessed
to
the
property
owners.
The
rest
is
paid
for
by
net
debt
bonds.
Net
debt
bonds
are,
you
know,
come
from
our
debt
services
covered
by
general
property
taxes.
D
So
a
broader
piece
of
of
the
public
pays
for
that
as
well
in
our
calculation
of
influence
areas
for
the
assessment
rates.
Yes,
sometimes
we
reach
and
touch
other
properties
that
might
not
be
abutting
it,
but
this
they'll
pay
a
much
smaller
piece
depending
on
how
the
influence
area
works
later
on.
When
their
street
is
redone,
they
would
have
a
larger
proportion
of
an
assessment
to
pay
for
that
street.
So
that
can
happen,
but
this.
D
The
city
to
assess
for
for
construction
and
resurfacing
projects.
A
E
E
We're
we're
really
not
here
today
to
approve
the
layout,
that's
being
done
by
a
to
the
record
letter,
but
I
wondered
if
you
could
just
talk
very
briefly
about
some
of
the
elements
of
this
project,
because
there
are
a
number
of
sort
of
safety
improvements
that
are
included
here.
It's
not
just
a
resurfacing
project.
E
D
Mr
customer
bender,
I
would
rather
have
either
director
cocky
or
perhaps
simon
valinsky,
could
come
up
and
talk
to
those
matters.
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
resurfacing
project,
but
they've
been
much
more
involved
in
some
of
those
other
things.
C
Yeah,
mr
chair
council,
member
bender
I'll
have
simon
belinsky,
come
in
and
explain
kind
of
the
the
details
of
this.
This
is
as
councilmember
bender
had
indicated.
This
is
a
resurfacing
project,
but
it's
also
a
a
pet
invite
facility
project
as
well
and
I'll.
Have
simon
explain
the
bike
and
pet
components
of
it.
B
Mr
chair
committee,
members,
simon
blunsky,
with
transportation
planning
and
engineering
in
coordination
with
the
resurfacing
project
of
26th
and
28th
between
highwath
and
35w.
Public
works
is
planning
a
protected
bike.
Lane
project
between
portland
and
hiawatha.
B
The
recommended
layout
is
a
one-way,
protected
bike
lane
on
26th
street
and
a
one-way
protected
bike
lane
on
28th
street
to
install
the
bike.
Lane
changes
to
the
travel
lanes
are
proposed.
B
Public
works
did
traffic
operations
analysis
for
the
entire
corridor
from
hennepin
to
hiawatha,
to
understand
the
impact
of
of
the
changes
and
the
layout
that
we
are
recommending
with
the
protected
bike.
Lane
is
a
reduction
of
travelings,
currently
primarily
three
travelings
along
26th
and
28th
we're
recommending
two
travel
lanes.
B
The
traffic
operations
analysis
showed
us
that
traffic
would
be
maintained
as
at
a
similar
level
of
service.
There's
a
few
exceptions
to
the
corridor
on
26th
street
between
10th
and
portland.
We're
recommending
three
lanes
during
the
afternoon
peak
hour,
based
on
what
the
traffic
operations
analysis
found
and
I'll
say,
the
two
that
we're
also
still
working
between
cedar
and
hiawatha
with
some
of
the
east
phillips
residents,
because
that
section
of
26th
and
28th
is
a
two-way.
It's
not
one
way,
so
we're
still
working
on
a
refined
design
there.
E
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
If
I
can
ask
some
questions
of
mr
kennedy,
mr
kennedy,
with
regards
to
this
project
in
terms
of
the
assessments
for
the
properties
along
those
two
corridors-
let's,
let's
just
use
26
street,
just
because
it's
not
getting
a
modification,
but
I
mean
in
terms
of
like
a
household
typical
household,
let's
say
a
corner
household
that
is
supposed
to
pay
an
assessment.
I
mean:
how
much
are
they
getting
this?
Does
you
know
a
figure
off
the
top
of
your
head.
D
Mr
chair
counselor
yang,
I
don't
know
those
numbers
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Okay,
but
they're.
Very
the
idea
of
the
uniform
assessment
rate
is
everybody
this
year,
who
is
having
some
resurfacing
done
in
front
of
their
property
is
paying
the
same
rate
right,
whether
it's
wherever
they
they
are
right.
D
Yep
perhaps
she
could
help
with
that
a
little
bit.
J
And
mr
kennedy,
I
mean
my
point
just
being
that
you
know.
Usually
what
happens
is
that
people
get
assessed
it's
over
a
term
of
maybe
10
years
or
20
years.
I'm
guessing
this
resurfacing
is
about
10
years.
You
know
and
if
you
do
the
math
monthly,
you
know
it
goes
out
to
maybe
two
or
three
dollars
you
know
per
month,
or
so
you
know
it's
I
mean
I
mean
to
anybody
who's,
a
taxpayer.
I
mean
it's
own
risk,
but
you
know
to
the
extent
in
which
you
know
it's
two
or
three
dollars
a
month.
J
I
mean
it's
not
as
bad
as
you
know.
Maybe
people
make
it.
I
feel
you
know
I
I
do
want
to
just
say,
mr
chair.
If
I
can
comment
on
this,
you
know
for
the
most
part
I
mean
we've
had
these
complaints.
Many
times
with
regards
to
assessments,
I
mean
nobody's
ever
happy
with
street
assessments.
Just
you
know
for
resurfacing
or
milling
overlay.
I
mean
it's,
it's
probably
less
bad
than
a
full
reconstruction
of
a
street,
but
for
the
most
part,
nobody's
ever
happy
with
it,
and
you
know
I.
J
I
definitely
hear
the
concerns
with
regards
to
the
poor
having
to
pay.
You
know
I
mean
it
feels
like
more
just
because
you
know-
and
I
I
think
that's
the
part
that
is
concerning
to
me
is
that
you
know
we've
had
several
projects
on
the
north
side
in
ward
5
specifically-
and
you
know
I
mean
I've
heard
folks
say
the
same
things
and
you
know
I
mean
we
look
at
you
know
street
repair
street
assessments,
and
we
see
this
as
something
that's
fair.
J
All
across
the
city,
everybody
gets
to
be
assessed
the
same
way
I
mean
whether
it's
in
southwest
or
whether
it's
in
north
minneapolis
or
northeast
or
anywhere
else-
and
you
know
I
I
imagine-
maybe
if
folks
want
to
talk
about
how
we
change
this
and
make
it
different.
We
probably
will
have
to
tax
people
more.
Just
you
know
off
the
top
so
that
we
can
take
care
of
all
of
these
different
things,
and
so
I
mean
that's
a
different
conversation
altogether,
but
certainly
the
important
part
is
that
you
know
this.
J
This
assessment
isn't
about
taxing
the
poor,
more
or
taxing
the
rich,
less
or
any
of
that
stuff.
I
mean
it's
more
so
just
about
you
know
having
good
streets,
and
you
know
everybody
uses
the
streets.
Yes,
I
mean
people
can
make
the
argument
that
you
know
trucks
use
them
more
or
they.
You
know,
put
more
of
a
burden
on
the
streets
and
other
things.
J
You
know
I
mean
that's,
that's
up
to
people
as
to
what
they
think,
but
for
the
most
part,
my
point
being
that
you
know,
if
you
do
the
math
on
the
months
that
people
have
to
pay,
you
know
it's,
it's
not
so
bad,
it's
still
bad,
but
it's
not
so
bad
and
that
you
know
our
public
works
folks
do
the
best
they
can
to
make
things
a
little
bit
better
for
folks.
You
know
I
I
do
have
to
say
I
mean
with
the
modifications
to
20
28th
street
east.
J
This
is
pretty
substantial.
This
is
pretty
significant,
because
what
tends
to
happen
is
that
public
works
tends
not
to
do
this
at
the
start,
and
then
people
get
to
appeal
and
then
you
know
it
certainly
happens.
That
way,
but
I
mean
I
I
want
to
thank
public
works
for
actually
making
this
modification
before
you
know
just
presenting
this
to
us
like
this.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
mr
kennedy,
so
can
you
can
you
I
mean?
D
D
These
can
be
spread
out
up
to
five
years,
and
so
I
don't
know
a
thousand
dollars
divided
by
five
times.
24.
somebody
could
do
the
math,
but
it's
it's
you
know
can
be
hundreds
of
dollars
in
a
tax
year
per
year.
So
and
perhaps
that
could
give
us
a
little
bit
better
idea
of
for
these
two
particular
products
a
little
bit
difficult
because,
as
you
said,
28
was
reduced.
They
have
they're
seeing
a
little
bit
of
savings.
A
D
K
Gordon,
I
just
had
one
comment
that
I
want
to
make
sure
people
are
aware
that
there
is
a
deferment
application
that
people
can
apply
for
if
it's
a
homesteaded
property
owned
by
a
person,
65
years
of
age
or
older
or
retired,
by
virtue
of
a
permanent
or
total
total
disability
and
the
council
has
to
approve
those
applications.
So
the
people
who
spoke,
if
they
know
of
individuals
who
might
fit
that
along
this
court
or
to
if
you
could
let
them
know,
there's
a
chance
to
do
that.
Payment
that
might
be
beneficial.
A
A
C
L
Morning,
mr
chair
council,
members,
this
is
the
public
hearing
for
the
minnehaha
reconstruction
project
from
26th
street
east
to
24th
street
east.
It's
project
number
6754,
it's
a
reconstruction
project
that
includes
new
pavement
sub-base
improvements,
if
necessary,
the
replacement
of
curb
gutter,
sidewalks,
storm
drain,
inlets
pedestrian
ramps
and
a
new
signal
at
24th
street
assessments
were
determined
using
the
influence
zone
area
method
at
a
rate
of
2.46.
L
Per
square
foot
for
non-residential
rate-
and
this
is
the
rate
that
was
set
in
the
december
14
2014-
for
the
2015
reconstruction
projects-
there
are
no
res
none.
There
are
no
residential
properties
along
this
corridor.
Our
total
estimated
cost
for
this
project
is
2.9
million
dollars.
It's
funded
through
net
debt,
bonds,
municipal
state
aid,
water
and
storm
water
revenue
and
seven
hundred,
and
sixty
four
thousand
eight
hundred
and
seven
dollars
and
forty
five
cents
worth
of
assessments.
A
We
have
no
questions
for
a
present,
no
problem.
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
this
is
a
public
hearing
item
two
minnehaha
avenue
street
reconstruction
project
as
described.
I
do
have
one
person
who
signed
in
it's
omar
waco.
I
got
that
correct.
M
M
As
to
the
projects
we
don't
have
as
to
the
proposed
project,
we
don't
have
any
objection.
Of
course
we
are
happy
to
have
it,
but
our
problem
is
you
know.
Ours
is
very
small
organization
which,
based
you
know,
which,
based
for
its
income,
100
percent
on
the
donation
we
get
from
our
community,
which
is
very
small
amount.
Our
yearly
budget
is
about
120k,
and
out
of
this
you
have
only
two
employees.
M
A
Thank
you.
Everyone
else
who
signed
in
does
any
wish
to
come
forward
and
speak.
One
wish
to
come
forward
and
speak
on
this
item.
I
see
none,
I
will
close
the
public
hearing.
M
A
H
O
N
B
N
N
N
N
P
Q
N
N
N
Q
N
N
N
E
B
N
N
N
N
Now
the
assessments
are
the
total
and
not
the
annual
and
based
on
some
of
the
meetings
I
went
to.
There
was
some
question
about
that.
What's
on
your
assessment
notice,
is
your
total
assessment,
not
your
annual
annual
amount
and
at
our
some
of
our
meetings.
We
went
through
some
specific
examples
and
I
have
that
up
on
a
slide
here
so,
for
example,
an
office
building
in
the
red
tier.
If
the
assessor's
market
value
is
10
million
dollars,
you
take
that
10
million
times
that
rate
on
this
matrix
one
here.
N
The
total
assessment
is
fifty
eight
thousand
two
hundred
seventy
five
dollars.
That
assessment
is
payable
over
twenty
years.
That
would
equal
a
two
thousand
nine
hundred
thirteen
dollar
annual
payment
example.
Number
two
is
a
parking
lot
in
the
yellow
tier
and
if
the
assessor's
market
value
is
five
million,
multiply
that
by
that
yellow
tier
and
that
use
of
parking
and
you'd
have
a
total
assessment
of
15
488
over
20
years,
774
dollars
a
year
and
lastly,
the
example
we
had
was
a
residential
property
in
the
green
area,
green,
easter,
green
west.
N
N
We
conducted
some
public
meetings
about
the
assessments.
There
was
four
at-large
meetings,
which
was
a
longer
version
of
what
I
gave
today
as
well
as
discussion
about
the
assessment
methodology.
First
one
was
on
january
28th.
There
was
actually
two
one
was
at
new
century
theater.
The
other
was
at
the
century,
lot
central
library
and
then.
I
N
N
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions
for
the
presentation,
see
none.
I
will
open
the
public
hearing.
Thank
you
and
I
will
go
in
order.
There's
several
people
have
signed
up.
I
will
start
with
person
number
one
which
is
toby
brill.
Please
come
forward
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
and
I
just
suggested
because
we
have
the
volume
of
people
in
commentary.
If
you
heard
someone
make
your
comment
you
can
just
you
know
occur
with
that.
That
comment
and
not
duplicate
conversation
as
much
as
possible.
S
Thank
you
and
good
morning,
council
member
frye
glad
to
see
you
here
this
morning.
I
my
name
is
toby
brill,
I'm
a
property
owner
at
24th
street
north,
which
includes
the
property
at
327;
first
avenue,
north
and
28
north
4th
street.
It's
the
corner
property
on
first
avenue,
north
and
4th
street,
I'm
here
to
object
to
the
nikola
mall
assessment
and
step
through
just
a
couple,
quick
questions.
S
That
was
shown
in
don
elwood's.
S
In
the
legend
you'll
see
that
the
properties
that
are
in
pink
are
assessed
by
the
did.
Tier
charges
at
100
percent,
blue
properties
are
assessed
at
50
percent
and
properties
in
yellow
are
assessed
at
25
percent.
S
Taking
the
sa
the
identical
map
that
I
have
shown
you
previously
and
drawing
a
dotted
line
for
purposes
of
the
did
zone
on
the
niklet
mall
assessment
map,
my
ultimate
and
first
question
is:
why
is
the
did
zone
and
the
nicolet
mall
assessment
zone
different?
When
asked
that
question?
The
answer
was
because
it
is.
S
S
S
Adding
to
that
question,
perhaps
the
even
more
important
financial
question
is,
if
someone's
did
rate
will
go
on
in
perpetuity
and
their
assessment
for
the
niklet
mall
may
be
paid
in
in
over
one
year
or
over
20
years.
S
Someone
who
has
an
assessment
of
five
thousand
dollars
from
the
niklet
mall
might
be
able
to
defer
that
over
a
twenty
amortize
it
over
twenty
year
period
of
time,
but
their
d
ids
rate
might
be
five
thousand
dollars
a
year.
S
So
when
you
impact
your
businesses
and
your
residences
in
that
fashion,
I
think
it
calls
for
additional
scrutiny,
and
I
was
very
surprised
here
that
the
map
that
shows
which
this
dotted
line
map
shows
of
why
the
mall
assessment
map
and
the
did
zone
map
are
not
the
same.
S
So
therefore,
at
the
hearings
which
mr
ellwood
conducted
in
which
I
attended
both
sessions,
the
most
recent
one
was,
I
believe.
Last
week,
the
question
was
raised
not
once
but
four
times
who
has
put
pen
to
paper
to
calculate
or
forecast
the
did
tier
charges
and
the
short
term,
as
well
as
long
term
rate,
that
the
property
owners
and
residences
will
pay
on
an
ongoing
basis,
assuming
the
did
is
still
continues
on
or
whatever
maintenance
group
is
assigned
the
task.
S
When
you
ask
a
question
of
simple
accounting
like
that,
and
you
have
no
answer,
it
really
begs
for
a
re
look
at
what's
going
on
here.
Just
to
make
sure
you
understand
the
accounting
term
short
term
generally
means
six
months,
but
could
mean
a
year
long
term
would
be
for
in
excess
of
that
period.
Of
time
the
did
charges
are
an
annual
charge
at
this
juncture.
S
I've
asked
in
advance
of
this
hearing
how
the
retail
the
hierarchy,
which
mr
l
woodship,
showed
in
his
slides
tears,
retail
at
in
the
upper
third
of
the
hierarchy,
as
opposed
to
further
down
next
to
service
vacant
land
with
sanmar
corporation
opening
up
500,
000
square
foot
distribution
facility
in
shakopee
and
amazon
breaking
ground
for
a
22
acre
distribution
facility
in
shakopee,
the
dis
level
disintermediation
to
retailers.
No
matter
who
you
are
whether
you're
the
oval
room
or
you're
selling
at
cvs
is
substantial.
A
A
Chair,
thank
you
for
your
commentary.
We
have
to
move
along
well.
S
Okay,
I'm
requesting
that
any
property
in
the
has
that
has
a
historic
designation
of
25
000
square
feet,
not
gba
or
less
be
given
a
reduced
rate
of
assessment
that
the
stadium
property
be
included,
which
you
can
see,
is
excluded
from
this
assessment
zone
and
that
there
be
a
serious
cost
reduction
and
cost
containment
for
this
project
so
that
we
are
not
using
or
exceeding
50
million
dollars
that
we
are
reducing
our
cost
of
this
entire
project
and
if
that
means
that
the
landscaping
is
cost
shifted
to
the
properties
along
nicolette
mall,
so
be
it.
S
But
50
million
dollars
for
this
project
and
the
assessment
methodology
right
now
is
burdensome
and
we're
requesting
relief
from
that.
Thank
you.
I
I
I've
also
had
my
business
downtown
minneapolis
for
over
22
years.
We
all
benefit
from
the
niklet
mall
and
the
nikola
mall
needs
to
be
reworked
reconstructed,
it
has
and
it's
showing
its
wear
and
tear.
So
I
encourage
that
this
project
and
the
special
assessment
be
approved
as
presented
and
just
a
little
add-on.
U
Good
morning
I
represent
the
basilica
of
saint
mary,
okay,
hennepin
avenue
I'll
try
to
make
it
quick.
You
have
my
written
objections,
I'll
speak
to
two
of
those
points.
Only
the
primary
is.
We
speak
also
on
behalf
of
other
non-profits
that
are
benefiting
from
this
project.
We
love
the
project.
The
question
isn't
whether
the
assessments
are
equitable
but
whether
they
are
constitutionally
appropriate
when
it
comes
to
non-profits
nonprofits
normally
have
to
pay
special
assessments,
but
the
theory
behind
that
was
really
that
non-profits.
U
Even
though
we
have
a
constitutional
tax
exemption,
we
don't.
We
pay
special
assessments
for
the
basic
necessities
of
living
in
a
city,
roadways,
sewers,
those
types
of
things
what's
unprecedented
about
this
project,
and
what
makes
it
great,
frankly,
is
that
it
has
so
many
other
features,
but
those
amenities
really
do
cross
the
line
into
what
is
constitutionally
permissible.
U
You're
talking
about
taxation
against
non-profits,
asking
a
non-profit
to
pay
for
art
features
or
fireplaces
or
bocce
courts.
Those
things
are
what
we
consider
to
be
discretionary
items
that
really
do
not
fit
within
the
flavor
of
what
the
supreme
court
says.
Nonprofits
should
have
to
pay.
Our
suggested
solution
is
this
is
come
up
with
a
new
classification.
You've
got
eight
so
far.
U
Your
staff
has
been
wonderful
and
working
with
us
and
chatting
with
us,
but
right
now
the
the
early
nature
of
the
project
it
hasn't
been
fully
designed.
Contracts
haven't
been
bid.
We
can't
tell
you
exactly
what
that
number
should
be,
so
one
of
my
requests
is
to
table
this
question
with
respect
to
nonprofits,
so
we
can
study
frankly,
the
city
can
study
it
further,
so
that
we
can
figure
out
exactly
what
those
design
features
will
be,
what
they
will
cost
in
the
alternative.
U
U
So
I
think
that
what
we
share
and
we've
kind
of
emailed
and
chatted
as
a
group
before
coming
here
today
we
share
in
that
sentiment-
is
we
think
this
is
a
great
project.
We
want
to
pay
our
fair
share,
but
the
reason
why
nonprofits
exist
with
the
tax
exemption
is
to
do
work
that,
in
frankly,
supports
what
the
city
does
is
that
one
dollar
that
we
pay
for
a
special
assessment
might
be
one
dollar
we
could
pay
for
towards
shoes
for
someone
who
is
homeless.
U
I
also
then
speak
to
an
alternative
argument,
just
that
happens
to
frankly
work
on
behalf
of
the
basilica.
We
did
study
the
downtown
map
we
do
share
in
the
same
arguments
as
the
last
speaker
about
inclusion
of
the
stadium
and
the
wells
fargo
towers.
U
As
far
as
the
map
goes,
you
can
see
the
basilica
of
the
saint
mary
is
the
furthest
east
property
in
this
entire
project
and,
frankly,
lauren
park
is
not
included
in
the
project,
especially
it.
I,
in
our
opinion,
derive
special
benefits
simply
from
its
proximity,
so
we
would
suggest
either
that
you
disclude
remove
the
basilica
from
the
map
or
consider
another
green
zone
on
that
end
of
hennepin
avenue.
We
thank.
V
V
I
have
asked
a
few
times
is
mr
nelson's,
where
for
the
report,
including
at
the
meeting
on
april
29th,
and
I
was
told
that
the
city
attorney
this
was
by
mr
strikota,
I
might
have
butchered
his
name-
the
city
attorney
had
a
copy
of
their
report,
but
had
did
not
want
to
make
publicly
available
for
reasons
I
don't
understand.
V
I
would
you
know
note.
That,
therefore,
is
not
available.
I
assume
the
council
doesn't
have
unless
you've
been
in
closed
session.
Regarding
this
report,
lacking
in
a
report
is
difficult
to
comment.
Our
property
is
quite
far
away
from
the
impacts
on
the
assessment.
It's
very
difficult
for
me
to
comment
and
say:
does
this
make
sense
or
not
make
sense?
The
only
other
item
I
can
bring
to
the
table
is
the
report
by
donna
dantan
economics,
if
that's
not
readable,
but
that
was
done
for
the
city
of
minneapolis.
V
Last
march,
it
noted
a
one
percent
impact
along
nicolette,
mall
and
point
five
percent
on
jason
blocks.
It's
hard
to
say
that
now
we
have
a
new
report
that
forecasts
a
0.3
percent
impact,
roughly
all
the
way
over
on
the
other
side
of
lauren
park.
So
I
don't
see
the
numbers
squaring
up.
You
have
two
reports
that
have
different
numbers
so
respectfully,
as
for
continuance
of
this
hearing,
thank
you
thank.
W
W
We
work
very
closely
together
during
the
last
legislative
session
to
achieve
a
21.5
million
dollar
state
investment
work
very
closely
on
the
design
that
don
elwood
showed
you
to
make
sure
there's
strong
business
input
into
that
design,
and
then
we've
been
following
closely
this
assessment
plan.
I
want
to
say
I
honor
the
concerns
that
are
have
already
been
expressed
and
will
continue
to
be
expressed
about
the
assessment.
W
W
That's
the
highest
that
it's
ever
been
again
when
the
mall
was
last
done,
that
percentage
borne
by
downtown
property
owners
was
about
85,
and
now
it's
half
of
that
plus
the
amount
of
value
downtown
has
dramatically
increased
over
the
intervening
years.
I
think
we're
kind
of
trying
to
get
25
million
dollars
or
26
million
against
about
a
seven
or
eight
billion
dollar
value.
W
Again,
any
tax
is
a
challenge,
but
in
terms
of
balance
or
perspective,
I
think
that's
important
to
keep
in
mind
bottom
line.
Is
we
think
the
economic
benefit
of
this
project
will
be
substantial
to
everyone
downtown?
We
think
it's
a
key
aspect
of
continuing
the
vitality
that
we've
seen
in
downtown
minneapolis,
which
is
a
positive
thing
for
everybody.
W
So
we
stand
here
in
support
of
the
plan
and
I'd
also
say,
mr
chairman
and
members
with
my
did
hat
on
we're
closely
involved
with
the
design
team
and
trying
to
make
material,
selection
and
design
modifications
and
and
details
that
will
make
this
an
efficient
mall
to
design
or
to
maintain
I'll,
be
happy
to
address
those
questions
down
the
road
if
that's
appropriate
in
this
hearing.
Thank
you
thank.
X
Good
morning,
I'm
kevin
lewis,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
bulma,
the
building
owners
and
managers
association
of
greater
minneapolis.
I
have
a
number
of
our
board
members
president,
and
vice
president
here
as
well
in
the
audience
from
the
onset,
our
owners,
management
companies,
etc.
That
represent
the
vast
majority
of
commercial
office.
Space
in
the
minneapolis
area
understands
the
importance
of
a
vital,
downtown
minneapolis
and
the
nikola
mall.
X
Therefore,
we
have
been
involved
in
some
of
the
suggestions
on
the
divine
design
phase
and
also
knowing,
at
the
end
of
the
day
that
it'll
help
us
attract
more
tenants
into
our
member
buildings.
We've
been
incredible
partners
with
the
city
of
minneapolis
in
funding,
not
only
the
first
second
as
steve
mentioned,
but
now
looking
at
the
third
version
of
the
nikola
mall.
In
fact,
as
steve
pointed
out,
the
commercial
office
buildings
were
primarily
the
number
one
contributor
to
the
actual
funding
for
the
nikola
mall
percentage-wise,
it's
less,
but
it's
still
the
same
dollar
amount.
X
We
were
very
forward
in
advocating
at
the
capitol
to
secure
the
bonds
to
go
towards
the
neglect
mall,
so
bulma
has
been
here
then,
and
now
for
this
particular
project.
X
It's
also,
as
stated
that
the
funding
for
the
the
did,
which
is
a
very
important
element
for
our
tenants,
is
something
that
is
comes
primarily
from
our
commercial
office
buildings.
This
new
model,
this
new
assessment,
does
incorporate
all
levels
of
property
managers
which
which
pleases
us
don't
forget.
It's
the
tenants
of
all
of
our
commercial
buildings
that
ultimately
pay
for
the
assessment.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
that
in
the
forefront.
X
Are
all
my
members
completely
delighted
exactly
how
it
is
not
really,
I
think,
there's
a
consensus
as
we
do
see
the
value
on
it.
So,
although
the
assessment
is
not
perfect,
we
do
feel
that
it
does
bring
into
consideration
all
of
the
elements
that
are
important
to
us
and,
as
a
closing,
I
would
like
to
just
ask
if
there
could
be
just
a
clarification
on
the
26
million
200.
X
A
In
conclusion,
thank
you
moving
down,
we.
Y
Z
Good
morning,
mr
chair,
my
name
is
john
luke
and
I'm
representing
the
owners
of
the
parcel
located
on
1001
marquette
avenue.
I
do
want
to
say
that
they're
not
opposed
to
the
project
order,
the
repairs
of
nicolette
mall
at
all.
We
see
that
we
see
the
value
of
that.
Z
A
Next
we
have
angela
somargia,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
H
P
Right
here
is
nicolette
mall
the
office
building
is
located
right
there,
it's
actually
in
the
north
loop
of
minneapolis.
I
also
represent
best
price
properties,
who
owns
the
surface
lot
right
behind
there
and
cw
inc
also
owns
45
parking
stalls
on
the
other
side
of
the
railroad
tracks,
and
all
three
of
these
properties
are
being
assessed
and
we
do
object
to
the
assessment.
As
this
area
is
considered,
the
north
loop
of
minneapolis,
it
is
not
downtown
and
honestly,
we
just
don't
see
how
this
project
is
going
to
benefit
any
of
the
properties.
A
T
It's
been
really
great
to
see
the
improvements
and
the
evolution
of
downtown
and
now
that
we're
in
our
fifth
year
as
a
family
in
downtown
minneapolis
with
a
four-year-old
and
a
business
downtown,
it's
great
to
see
the
improvements
coming
along
and
more
destinations
for
us
as
residents
and
more
places
for
visitors
to
frequent
and
to
repeat
business
here
in
minneapolis.
Thank
you
guys
very
much
for
your
time.
A
H
Q
Of
the
other
speakers
mentioned
being
on
the
north
side
of
loring
park,
we
are
about
a
half
a
mile
anyway,
you
want
to
get
to
nicolette
mall,
and
it's
just
it's
just
hard
to
understand
the
benefit
to
this
parcel.
Based
on
the
assessments,
I
love
the
project,
love
the
revitalization
nichola
mall,
but
struggling
with
the
assessment
protocol
and
the
methodology
respectfully
I'd
like
to
reserve
our
rights
and
respectfully
ask
to
be
taken
out
of
the
assessment
map
for
this
parcel.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
O
Good
morning,
council,
chair
and
committee,
my
name
is
al
swintek.
I
manage
our
local
government
relations
area
for
center
point
energy.
About
three
weeks
ago,
we
moved
into
our
brand
new
minnesota
headquarters,
building,
which
is
at
505
nikola
mall,
I'm
also
on
the
executive
committee
of
the
minneapolis
downtown
council.
O
Speaking
in
favor
of
the
reconstruction
project
center
point,
energy
has
been
serving
the
city
of
minneapolis
since
1870,
and
because
of
our
new
move
to
505
nikola
mall
we've
been
paying
very
close
attention
to
the
reconstruction
and
assessment
process
had
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
several
of
the
open
houses
and
the
different
meetings
that
have
been
keeping
the
public
up
to
speed
on
how
the
reconstruction
will
proceed
and
well.
Nobody
of
course
appreciates
an
assessment
of
any
type,
including
us.
O
We
feel
that
in
our
case,
at
any
rate,
at
505
nikola,
the
assessment
seems
to
be
reasonable
in
comparison
to
the
benefits
that
the
entire
reconstruction
project
is
going
to
provide
to
to
us
and
our
employees
and
frankly,
everybody
that
is
up
and
down
and
in
the
area
of
ziklin
mall
so
well,
the
existing
mall
is
fantastic.
We
love
it.
O
A
Next,
we
have
doug
hennis
state,
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Y
Chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
doug
hennis,
I'm
vice
president
for
university
government
relations
at
st
thomas.
As
you
know,
we
have
several
buildings:
a
block
off
the
mall
st
thomas,
respectfully
requests
that
the
city
re-examine
the
assessment
categories
for
improvements
to
the
mall
and
consider
a
reduction
in
our
assessment.
Y
Benefit
rate
rationale
is
similar
in
many
respects,
so
that
articulated
by
mr
glazer
on
behalf
of
the
basilica,
we
support
the
plan
for
nicolet
mall,
but
we
do
object
to
the
the
level
of
proposed
assessments
on
seven
parcels
that
we
have
buildings.
Land
and
parking
assessments
would
total
141
thousand
dollars.
Y
Y
We
think
we,
you
know,
pay
our
fair
share
of
basic
public
infrastructure
needs,
and
this
year,
the
last
several
years.
Actually,
we
have
voluntarily
contributed
fifteen
thousand
dollars
into
the
downtown
improvement
district,
but
we
do
object
to
the
assessments
for
certain
discretionary
improvements,
including
public
art,
outdoor
restaurant,
seating,
fire
pits
and
the
like.
Those
seem
to
go
beyond
basic
public
infrastructure
needs.
Y
AA
Good
morning
committee
chair
committee
members,
my
name
is
colin
barr,
I'm
the
president
of
ryan's
business
operations
in
minnesota
and
passed
immediate
past
board,
chair
for
downtown
council
current
board
member
of
downtown
council.
It's
okay.
I
would
like
to
read
a
letter
from
our
friends
at
target
corporation.
They
provided
to
downtown
council
leadership
in
support
of
this
project.
Today,
it's
addressed
to
council,
chair
wright
from
thaad
hellman.
AA
Nicklett
mall
is
target's
international
headquarters
and
business
address
and
is
critically
important
to
our
team
members.
Guests
and
business
overall
target
is
proud
of
our
presence
in
minneapolis
and
support
of
the
local
economy
and
communities
where
we're
located.
Our
commitment
to
the
city
of
minneapolis
includes
five
stores
various
office
locations
and
over
nine
thousand
target
team
members.
We
encourage
the
minneapolis
transportation
and
public
works
committee
to
vote
in
support
of
this
proposed
resolution
target,
looks
forward
to
continuing
conversations
related
to
nicklet,
mall
and
future
economic
development
issues.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
AA
That's
from
your
friends
at
target.
I
want
to
say
on
behalf
of
ryan
companies.
We
also
have
our
much
much
smaller
world
headquarters
located
on
nicklett
mall
about
350
employees,
and
we
see
niklet
the
new
design.
The
projects,
as
it's
been
scoped
and
contemplated,
is
very
appropriate
and
very
important
for
us
to
continue
to
attract
and
retain
top
level
employees
and
on
behalf
of
ryan
companies
and
the
two
and
a
half
million
square
feet
of
office
property
that
we
own
and
or
manage,
which
are
all
within
that
assessment
area.
AB
Good
morning,
mr
chair
committee,
members,
my
name
is
tom
hock
and
I'm
the
president
of
hennepin
theater
trust
our
world
headquarters
are
on
hennepin
avenue.
In
case
you
were
wondering,
I
also
serve
as
the
chair
of
the
minneapolis
downtown
council
in
the
minneapolis
downtown
improvement
district.
AB
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
downtown
council
to
speak
in
favor
of
a
new
niklet,
and
I
want
to
echo
steve
kramer's
comments
of
earlier
nicholas
mall
was
our
city's
first
pedestrian
transit,
mall
and
today
nicklett
needs
to
continue
as
an
unparalleled
attraction
for
the
center
of
our
city,
as
well
as
being
a
major
force
of
economic,
economic
strength
of
our
downtown.
If
we
want
to
be
a
truly
24
7
city,
the
city
that
attracts
and
retains
thousands
of
people
to
live,
work
and
play
here,
we
must
make
the
investments
that
will
position.
AB
Our
downtown
is
more
appealing,
more
walkable,
more
engaging
and
more
livable.
Our
reborn
necklace
will
create
the
linkage
among
housing,
parks,
offices,
culture
and
entertainment
that
will
attract
and
retain
those
who
will
animate
our
city.
I
urge
you
to
adopt
the
resolution
in
front
of
you
today.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
For
your
comments.
A
Moving
down
our
list,
we
have
daniel
fine.
Please
come
forward
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
AC
Morning,
chair
morning,
council
members,
I'm
here
representing
the
hotel,
minneapolis
and
the
west
in
minneapolis,
we
are
sister
properties,
both
same
management
company,
two
different
ownerships
we're
not
opposed
to
the
development
of
nicolette
mall.
We
opposed
the
assessment,
and
only
just
recently,
finding
out
about
the
substance
due
to
some
transitions
of
ownership.
AC
So
first
representation
I
have
is
from
nick
jetty,
which
has
already
been
submitted,
and
I
believe
he
received
an
email
saying
it
was
accepted
just
a
short
letter
from
him.
AC
The
owner
chsp
minneapolis
llc,
located
at
401
second
avenue
south
minneapolis
doing
business
as
the
hotel
in
midland
minneapolis.
We
are
formally
objected
checking
to
the
proposed
assessment
to
be
used
that
funds
the
nicolet
mall
reconstruction
project.
We
do
not
feel
we
have
received
enough
information
as
to
how
the
project
will
benefit
the
local
lodging
industry
and,
specifically
the
hotel
minneapolis.
Given
our
location,
several
brock's
front
flocks
from
the
core
of
nicolette
mall.
We
feel
that
many
other
property
owners
will
directly
benefit
from
the
investment
significantly
more
than
the
hotel
minneapolis.
AC
Looking
forward
to
discussing
the
project
and
proposed
assessment
in
greater
detail,
he's
also
requesting
a
copy
of
the
assessment
be
placed
online
or
at
least
emailed
out,
so
they
can
so
he
can
assess
it
is
based
out
of
chicago
my
ownership.
Equally
similar
letter
just
saying
like
to
have
more
information
in
regards
to
the
project,
I'm
not
opposed
to
how
it's
not
opposed
to
the
development
of
it.
Just
of
how
the
assessment
was
fine,
he
does
agree
with
the
did
plan,
not
necessarily
the
nicolette
mall
plan
for
the
assessment.
A
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
We
also
now
have
don
grant.
Please
come
to
guest.
Please
come
forward
state,
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
AD
Q
AD
AD
A
Thank
you
any
further
people
on
our
list.
Does
anyone
wish
to
come
forward?
Who
didn't
sign
in
please
come
forward
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
R
Good
morning
my
name
is
anne
willett,
and
I
represent
wcco
tv
at
90,
south
11th
street,
on
the
corner
of
11th
and
nicklett
mall.
I
want
to
say
that
we
support
the
project.
We
think
it's
a
beautiful
project
and
we're
looking
forward
to
it
and
don't
inherently
object
to
the
methodology
of
the
assessment.
However,
we
would
like
to
reserve
our
right
to
appeal
our
assessment
for
two
factors.
A
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
Anyone
else
wish
to
come
forward
make
some
testimony
commentary
and
you
wish
to
come
forward.
I
see
no
one
indicating
they
want
to
come
forward.
I
will
close
the
public
hearing.
AE
Mr
chair
committee,
members,
as
you
heard,
some
people
acknowledge
nonprofits
are
subject
to
special
assessments.
The
argument
that
I
heard
today
is
creative
and
novel.
I
can
tell
you
that
I'll
take
a
closer
look
at
it
offline
and
I
can
get
back
to
all
of
you
if
I
think,
there's
cost
for
concern
or
either
way.
A
A
N
N
N
N
N
H
N
The
intent
of
the
project
is
to
recover
25
million
in
special
assessments.
That's
what
we've
said
all
along
and
that's
what
I
intend
to
do.
However,
with
projects
like
this
and
other
project
in
the
city,
oftentimes
you'll
see
that
the
approved
assessment
amount
is
higher
and
in
this
case
it's
26
million
169
dollars.
The
reason
I
have
that
at
a
higher
number
than
25
million
is
to
account
for
irregularities
in
the
assessment
process.
N
N
Next,
I'd
like
to
talk
about
process
and
just
just
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
what
happens
today,
so
so
people
provide
written
objection.
What
that
written
objection
does
is
preserves
their
right
to
appeal
their
right
to
appeal
in.
N
N
Q
N
N
Some
of
the
general
themes
from
the
open
house
and
the
call
log:
how
can
I
prepay
my
assessment?
I
had
35
people
call
up
and
say
I
just
want
to
write
a
check
today,
so
we
have
those
people
that
are
out
there.
I
also
heard
generally
questions
about.
Why
do
I
have
to
pay?
There
is
no
benefit
you
should
fund
from
other
sources.
It
exceeds
the
value
those
I've
kind
of
grouped
together.
N
The
funding
sources
are
split
between
public
and
private.
The
state
agrees
that
there's
a
benefit,
a
larger
benefit
to
the
nickel
mall
project.
In
fact,
they're
putting
in
21.5
million
our
market
value
method
has
determined.
There
is
a
benefit
and
the
benefit
exceeds
the
amount
of
the
proposed
assessment.
N
N
Were
determined
by
shanahan
and
I've
and
I've
talked
about
the
benefits,
but
the
issue
is
I
disagree
with
how
the
lines
are
drawn
and
we're
we're
not
going
to
reach
out
beyond
the
boundaries
and
just
target
one
particular
building
or
one
particular
group
of
homes.
The
way
the
way
this
was
done
is
logical
groupings
of
homes
to
be
logical
groupings
of
parcels
to
be
uniform
and
so
changing
the
boundaries
at
this
process.
For
maybe
what
I
would
consider
a
small
percentage.
N
The
map
of
the
tears,
that's
what
I'm
calling
the
boundary.
I
don't
necessarily
agree.
People
might
say
I
don't
necessarily
agree
with
how
the
lines
were
drawn
and
then
in
the
categories.
I
I've
heard
comments
related
to
categories
and
add
more
categories,
for
example,
change:
mind
make
a
unique
category
for
this
situation.
All
valid
comments.
All
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
those
are
valid
comments.
N
What
it
gets
down
to
I
I
heard
those
folks
say:
I
support
the
project
and
I
do
get
benefit.
I
just
want
a
different
category
and
they
may
not
even
agree
with
the
percent
applied
to
a
particular
category.
These
are
common
themes
that
I've
heard
and
similar
to
the
boundary
discussion.
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
Ddid
to
ensure
that
we
do
reduce
long-term
maintenance.
I
know
mr
kramer
can
speak
to
this
far
better
than
I,
but
it's
not
just
the
capital.
It's
also
around
the
design
team.
Looking
at
from
an
operational
perspective,
what
changes
we
can
make
to
actually
reduce
costs
in
the
future,
and
that
could
be
where
water
connections
are
for
for
doing
some
of
the
work
that
we've
asked
them
to
do
so.
There's
also
many
benefits
that
I
see
as
cost
reduction.
Steve
kramer
can
probably
talk
to
that.
N
N
N
That
and
bob
cercota
did
make
that
statement.
I
talked
to
him
afterwards.
He
said.
Well,
I
there's
not
truly
a
report.
There's
documents
that
show
the
methodology
that
we
used
to
arrive
at
the
assessments.
A
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Yes,
I
I
would,
I
don't
think
I
have
any
questions
at
the
at
the
moment,
mr
ellwood,
but
I
would
like
to
comment
generally
on
the
project
as
a
whole.
First,
I'd
like
to
take
the
opportunity-
and
perhaps
just
to
reiterate
to
my
colleagues.
I
know
they've
heard
this
before
that,
while
downtown
residents
and
downtown
businesses
do
receive
substantial
benefits
throughout
the
city,
they
also
pay
for
those
benefits
in
15
or
20
different
ways.
I
mean
they're,
paying
property
taxes
through
the
wazoo.
H
They
are
paying
did
assessments
in
some
cases,
there's
condo
fees,
the
value
of
their
properties
have
respectively,
gone
up
substantially.
So,
yes,
they
most
definitely
are
paying,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
also
look
at
this
individual
project
and
how
it's
funded
and
who's
paying
for
it.
This
is
a
50
million
dollar
in
total
investment
in
our
city,
25
million
of
which
comes
from
a
combination
of
the
city
and
the
state,
and
we're
very
appreciative
of
that
of
that
funding.
H
The
the
other
25
million
dollars
comes
in
the
form
of
assessments
and
when
you
normally
do
assessments,
it
is
charged
directly
and
in
in
almost
total
to
the
adjacent
property
owners.
However,
this
is
an
instance
where
the
impact
far
exceeds
the
immediately
adjacent
property
owner.
So
the
question
was:
how
exactly
do
we
break
it
down
in
this
case?
Well,
you
know,
while
you
know
so
we
have
this
overarching
goal
of
bringing
more
people
to
the
city
and
specifically
more
residential
population
to
downtown.
H
So
we
really
did
try
hard
to
minimize
the
impact
to
residences
as
much
as
possible,
and
in
this
case
we
kept
it
to
approximately
four
percent
of
total
cost.
So
I
understand
the
frustration
of
the
residence,
but
it
is,
it
is
kept
to
approximately
four
percent
of
of
total
cost.
So
next
you
look
at
you
know
where
the
district
is
and
where
the
district
isn't.
I've
heard
countless
people
say
that
they
value
the
project.
They
understand
that
it'll
have
a
substantial
benefit
to
the
city.
H
They
just
don't
like
the
mechanism
of
paying
for
it,
but
the
reality
is
that's
always
the
case.
We
could
draw
this
district
25
different
ways
and
there
will
still
be
somebody
that's
upset.
So
I
understand
the
the
work,
a
lot
of
work
that
went
into
drawing
these
districts
and
determining
exactly
where
these
assessments
took
place
and
then
finally
I'll
just
comment
briefly
on
the
the
overarching
benefit
to
the
to
the
city.
H
Here
this
last
weekend
I
went
to
new
york
city
to
visit
my
family,
and
I
had
the
opportunity
to
go
and
check
out
the
high
line.
The
high
line
is
the
same
exact
designers,
we're
using
in
the
nicklin
wall,
which
is
james
cornerfield,
and
the
number
one
tourist
attraction
in
new
york
city
right
now
is
not
the
empire
state
building.
H
It's
not
the
statue
of
liberty.
It's
not
the
freedom
tower.
It's
the
high
line
by
a
long
shot
like
it's,
not
even
close,
and
when
you
walk
along
the
high
line-
and
you
see
the
thousands
of
people
walking
along
with
you
from
every
single
different
cultural
background,
the
amount
of
money
that
they're
spending
in
the
area,
not
just
on
the
block,
not
just
on
the
immediate
adjacent
street,
but
in
the
entire
area.
This
gives
back
five-fold.
H
The
benefit
is
most
definitely
there
and
it
is
a
substantial
benefit
developer
of
community,
whereas
previously
they
had
a
line
that
separated
neighborhoods
now
they've
like
have
a
line
that
joins
them.
So
this
is
a
benefit
to
the
city.
I
completely
understand
everyone's
frustration
with
how
the
assessments
have
worked,
but
I
I
do
think
strongly.
I
feel
strongly
that
it
is
a
project
that
that
will
be
worth
moving
forward.
AF
AF
I
first
want
to
just
take
an
opportunity
to
thank
don
elwood
for
the
amazing
work
that
he
has
done
when
he
came
into
public
service.
I
doubt
he
thought
he
would
be
working
on
projects
like
this
and
I
think
he's
handled
it
with
great
integrity
and
grace,
and
I
appreciate
his
work
on
it,
as
well
as
our
very
large
and
significant
project
team.
That
also
includes
a
number
of
private
sector
members
of
the
community,
including
our
friends
at
boma
and
the
downtown
council.
AF
This
the
reason
I
think
that
this
is
a
good
methodology
and
actually
better
than
almost
anything
we've
seen
in
the
past,
is
that
people
who
don't
live
in
the
city
of
minneapolis
are
paying
for
it
through
state
bond
funds.
This
has
been
noted,
but
it
hasn't
really
been
kind
of
understood
that
people
who
pay
their
taxes
to
the
state
of
minnesota
donated
21.5
million
dollars
for
this
project,
because
the
state
felt
that
nicolet,
mall
and
minneapolis
in
general
is
the
economic
engine
for
the
city.
AF
For
the
state,
then
I'll
note
that
3.5
million
dollars
came
from
all
of
your
constituents.
The
city
made
a
general
fund
contribution
of
3.5
million
dollars.
That
means
people
living
on
the
north
side
and
council,
member
yang's,
ward
and
people
living
in
far
southwest
minneapolis
and
people
in
council,
member
gordon's,
ward,
all
around
the
city
benefit
from
nikola
mall
being
a
strong
place
for
people
to
live,
work
and
play,
and
they
paid
as
well.
AF
So
you
have
the
combination
of
people
from
the
state
paying
people
from
the
city
itself,
paying
then
people
who
are
most
directly
affected.
I
do
want
to
know
not
one
person
who
operates
a
business
or
building
on
the
mall
itself
complained
about
the
fact
that
they're
being
assessed
twice
first,
with
the
uniform
rate
that
they're
being
asked
to
pay
and
then,
with
the
general
rate,
on
top
of
that,
keep
in
mind
that
9th
10th,
11th
and
12th
they're
being
resurfaced
they're
getting
hit
with
part
of
that,
then
lasalle
is
being
resurfaced.
AF
They're
getting
hit
with
part
of
that
washington
avenue
is
seeing
a
full
reconstruction.
I'm
sure
the
county
is
charging
for
that.
It's
kind
of
gets
to
what
council
member
fry
said,
which
is
people
who
live
and
work
and
play
in
downtown
minneapolis
for
the
most
part,
not
everybody
pay
their
fair
share,
there's
no
doubt
about
it
from
parking
and
parking
meters.
Instead
of
for
parking
free
on
the
street
to
dealing
with
all
sorts
of
other
things
that
you
happily
deal
with.
I
lived
in
a
condo
on
hennepin
avenue
for
22
years.
AF
I
mean
think
about
the
fact
that
nicolet
mall,
as
a
driver
of
people
to
come
downtown,
they
stay
at
the
hilton
hotel
and
the
hotel,
minneapolis
and
the
west
end,
and
they
eat
at
restaurants
that
are
in
many
of
the
buildings
that
are
in
the
loring
corners
area
like
larkat
or
now,
third
bird
and
these
people
who
are
visitors
they
participate
in
in
all
that
minneapolis
has
to
offer,
even
though
they
probably
don't
pay
property
taxes
because
they
might
live
somewhere
else.
So
I've
seen
many
projects
happen.
AF
I
think
this
methodology
has
been
amongst
the
most
fair.
There
are
probably
a
few
areas
here
or
there
that
I
also
agree
potentially
could
or
should
be
tweaked
and
the
appeals
process
in
district
court
will
drive
us
to
that.
I'm
not
going
to
identify
what
they
are
now.
It's
not
perfect.
I
think
we
would
agree.
Nothing
is
perfect,
but
I
think
that
the
process
has
been
about
as
good
as
anyone
I've
participated
in,
and
I
would
urge
your
unanimous
approval
today.
A
Thank
you
for
that
commentary,
council
member.
Any
questions
or
commentary
from
the
committee
see
none
I'll
close
the
public
hearing,
and
so
I
will
move
the
item
before
us
as
presented
by
staff.
A
I
will
comment
that
it
was
boldly
stated
at
the
capitol
when
those
dollars
were
secured,
that
this
isn't
just
a
street.
This
is
main
street
minnesota
and
I
think
the
process
and
the
people
involved
and
the
questions
that
are
being
asked,
are
commensurate
with
the
scale
of
that
that
claim.
So
with
that
any
further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say
hi
dissenting
name
that
carries.